Re: Reversing a spiral

[Richard Ellis]

Thanks again Mike
I am going senile (or have gone )
Managed to shift the leadscrew to the left.
The fault was the reversing plate it was upside down and inside out  It 
came like that when I bought it See pic. one
All is now working o.k. 
Also thanks for putting up how to crank index. Printed off and placed into 
a Woodchuck folder
Cheers 
Richard

On Monday, October 3, 2016 at 7:49:40 PM UTC+1, LILtwisted wrote:
>
> Move the drive motor or there may be some slack in the motor to lead screw 
> coupler sleeve.  That will move it all down and give you the room to line 
> up the two 45T gears
>
> On 10/3/2016 12:50 PM, Richard Ellis wrote:
>
> Thanks Mike 
> There is something wrong with My Wood chuck, because that is what I have 
> tried doing. I am trying to contact the previous owner to see if he had 
> done a reversing job.
> *If I first put a 45 on the leadscrew that is all that lines up with the 
> 240.* To do a clockwise spiral the 60T that I am using to do it goes *hard 
> up against the leadscrew end a*nd if I put a 45 on first that is all that 
> will mesh. See Pics
> So-- 45on leadscrew 45 on reverse shaft followed , it looks like the 
> leadscrew wants moving to the left but how
> Cheers
>  Richard
>
> On Monday, October 3, 2016 at 6:16:51 PM UTC+1, LILtwisted wrote: 
>>
>> Hello Richard
>>
>> The small reversing shaft uses the 45 tooth gear.  
>>
>> For right hand twist on the main lead screw I assemble the 45T then the 
>> big washer, then the drive gear I will be using, 60T, then another flat 
>> washer and then set it all tight with the Allen screw and washers or handle.
>>
>> When you add the reversing shaft, it should have a 45T and a sleeve.  
>> Leave the 45T in place and swap the sleeve over to the lead screw and move 
>> everything except the 45T from the lead over to the reversing gear.  
>>
>> Now mesh the 2-45T gears together and tighten the 2 bracket screws on the 
>> reversing assembly.
>>
>> Loosen the screw on the pivot arm that will allow the duplex gear to 
>> swing away from the drive/reversing gear assembly.
>>
>> Loosen the reversing gear pivot and swing the reversing gear assembly 
>> down as far as it will go.
>>
>> Adjust the duplex gear and tension it back into the drive gear and you 
>> will be ready to go.  
>>
>> It is always better to make the reverse cut starting from the head stock 
>> and cutting the tail stock direction.
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>> Mike OK
>>
>> On 10/3/2016 6:59 AM, Richard Ellis wrote:
>>
>> Hi All and especially Mike who has a wood chuck 
>> I am stuck my head just won't work today.
>> I am doing a 6 inch spiral and want to turn it into a pineapple shape. 
>> i:e 240/40 on spindle and 240 driving a 60T
>> I have completed the clockwise part and am now stuck.
>> How do I set the gears for the anti-clockwise part???
>> What gears go on the leadscrew and what go on the lay / reverse shaft 
>> assembly?
>> Thanks
>> Richard
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Re: Reversing a spiral

[Okla Mike (Liltwisted)]

Move the drive motor or there may be some slack in the motor to lead 
screw coupler sleeve.  That will move it all down and give you the room 
to line up the two 45T gears



On 10/3/2016 12:50 PM, Richard Ellis wrote:

Thanks Mike
There is something wrong with My Wood chuck, because that is what I 
have tried doing. I am trying to contact the previous owner to see if 
he had done a reversing job.
_If I first put a 45 on the leadscrew that is all that lines up with 
the 240._ To do a clockwise spiral the 60T that I am using to do it 
goes _hard up against the leadscrew end a_nd if I put a 45 on first 
that is all that will mesh. See Pics
So-- 45on leadscrew 45 on reverse shaft followed , it looks like 
the leadscrew wants moving to the left but how

Cheers
 Richard

On Monday, October 3, 2016 at 6:16:51 PM UTC+1, LILtwisted wrote:

Hello Richard

The small reversing shaft uses the 45 tooth gear.

For right hand twist on the main lead screw I assemble the 45T
then the big washer, then the drive gear I will be using, 60T,
then another flat washer and then set it all tight with the Allen
screw and washers or handle.

When you add the reversing shaft, it should have a 45T and a
sleeve.  Leave the 45T in place and swap the sleeve over to the
lead screw and move everything except the 45T from the lead over
to the reversing gear.

Now mesh the 2-45T gears together and tighten the 2 bracket screws
on the reversing assembly.

Loosen the screw on the pivot arm that will allow the duplex gear
to swing away from the drive/reversing gear assembly.

Loosen the reversing gear pivot and swing the reversing gear
assembly down as far as it will go.

Adjust the duplex gear and tension it back into the drive gear and
you will be ready to go.

It is always better to make the reverse cut starting from the head
stock and cutting the tail stock direction.

Hope this helps

Mike OK


On 10/3/2016 6:59 AM, Richard Ellis wrote:

Hi All and especially Mike who has a wood chuck
I am stuck my head just won't work today.
I am doing a 6 inch spiral and want to turn it into a pineapple
shape. i:e 240/40 on spindle and 240 driving a 60T
I have completed the clockwise part and am now stuck.
How do I set the gears for the anti-clockwise part???
What gears go on the leadscrew and what go on the lay / reverse
shaft assembly?
Thanks
Richard
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Re: Reversing a spiral

[Richard Ellis]

Thanks Mike
There is something wrong with My Wood chuck, because that is what I have 
tried doing. I am trying to contact the previous owner to see if he had 
done a reversing job.
*If I first put a 45 on the leadscrew that is all that lines up with the 
240.* To do a clockwise spiral the 60T that I am using to do it goes *hard 
up against the leadscrew end a*nd if I put a 45 on first that is all that 
will mesh. See Pics
So-- 45on leadscrew 45 on reverse shaft followed , it looks like the 
leadscrew wants moving to the left but how
Cheers
 Richard

On Monday, October 3, 2016 at 6:16:51 PM UTC+1, LILtwisted wrote:
>
> Hello Richard
>
> The small reversing shaft uses the 45 tooth gear.  
>
> For right hand twist on the main lead screw I assemble the 45T then the 
> big washer, then the drive gear I will be using, 60T, then another flat 
> washer and then set it all tight with the Allen screw and washers or handle.
>
> When you add the reversing shaft, it should have a 45T and a sleeve.  
> Leave the 45T in place and swap the sleeve over to the lead screw and move 
> everything except the 45T from the lead over to the reversing gear.  
>
> Now mesh the 2-45T gears together and tighten the 2 bracket screws on the 
> reversing assembly.
>
> Loosen the screw on the pivot arm that will allow the duplex gear to swing 
> away from the drive/reversing gear assembly.
>
> Loosen the reversing gear pivot and swing the reversing gear assembly down 
> as far as it will go.
>
> Adjust the duplex gear and tension it back into the drive gear and you 
> will be ready to go.  
>
> It is always better to make the reverse cut starting from the head stock 
> and cutting the tail stock direction.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Mike OK
>
> On 10/3/2016 6:59 AM, Richard Ellis wrote:
>
> Hi All and especially Mike who has a wood chuck 
> I am stuck my head just won't work today.
> I am doing a 6 inch spiral and want to turn it into a pineapple shape. i:e 
> 240/40 on spindle and 240 driving a 60T
> I have completed the clockwise part and am now stuck.
> How do I set the gears for the anti-clockwise part???
> What gears go on the leadscrew and what go on the lay / reverse shaft 
> assembly?
> Thanks
> Richard
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Re: Reversing a spiral

[Okla Mike (Liltwisted)]

Hello Richard

The small reversing shaft uses the 45 tooth gear.

For right hand twist on the main lead screw I assemble the 45T then the 
big washer, then the drive gear I will be using, 60T, then another flat 
washer and then set it all tight with the Allen screw and washers or handle.


When you add the reversing shaft, it should have a 45T and a sleeve.  
Leave the 45T in place and swap the sleeve over to the lead screw and 
move everything except the 45T from the lead over to the reversing gear.


Now mesh the 2-45T gears together and tighten the 2 bracket screws on 
the reversing assembly.


Loosen the screw on the pivot arm that will allow the duplex gear to 
swing away from the drive/reversing gear assembly.


Loosen the reversing gear pivot and swing the reversing gear assembly 
down as far as it will go.


Adjust the duplex gear and tension it back into the drive gear and you 
will be ready to go.


It is always better to make the reverse cut starting from the head stock 
and cutting the tail stock direction.


Hope this helps

Mike OK


On 10/3/2016 6:59 AM, Richard Ellis wrote:

Hi All and especially Mike who has a wood chuck
I am stuck my head just won't work today.
I am doing a 6 inch spiral and want to turn it into a pineapple shape. 
i:e 240/40 on spindle and 240 driving a 60T

I have completed the clockwise part and am now stuck.
How do I set the gears for the anti-clockwise part???
What gears go on the leadscrew and what go on the lay / reverse shaft 
assembly?

Thanks
Richard
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Re: Reversing a spiral

[Richard Ellis]

 I put the 45T (21nch gear onto the leadscrew then another 45T onto the lay 
shaft followed by the 60T when i go to swing the 240T gear to mesh with the 
60T it hits the end of the leadscrew.
I have all the reversing gear already fixed to it
Curtis just can't understand the Disc instructions for reversing that you 
kindly did for me, but will have another look
My brain just must be missing something, even if I moved the leadscrew out 
of the way towards the end of the mill it still would not work
Richard

On Monday, October 3, 2016 at 3:22:09 PM UTC+1, aussiman wrote:
>
> Isn’t it the same gears just add the reversing gear onto the leadscrew gear
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *CURTIS 
> GEORGE
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 October 2016 1:17 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: Reversing a spiral
>
>  
>
> Richard there is a separate gear mechanism for the Wood Chuck, I sent you 
> the WOOD CHUCK Videos, it is shown in the video how to set up the gears for 
> reversing.  I will see if I can find more info. for you.
>
> More latter.
>
> C.A.G. 
>
>  
> --
>
> *From: *"Richard Ellis" <rchrd@gmail.com >
> *To: *"Legacy Ornamental Mills" <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
> >
> *Sent: *Monday, October 3, 2016 7:59:27 AM
> *Subject: *Reversing a spiral
>
>  
>
> Hi All and especially Mike who has a wood chuck
>
> I am stuck my head just won't work today.
>
> I am doing a 6 inch spiral and want to turn it into a pineapple shape. i:e 
> 240/40 on spindle and 240 driving a 60T
>
> I have completed the clockwise part and am now stuck.
>
> How do I set the gears for the anti-clockwise part???
>
> What gears go on the leadscrew and what go on the lay / reverse shaft 
> assembly?
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard
>
>  
>
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RE: Reversing a spiral

[Bill Bulkeley]

Isn’t it the same gears just add the reversing gear onto the leadscrew gear

Bill

 

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Sent: Tuesday, 4 October 2016 1:17 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reversing a spiral

 

Richard there is a separate gear mechanism for the Wood Chuck, I sent you the 
WOOD CHUCK Videos, it is shown in the video how to set up the gears for 
reversing.  I will see if I can find more info. for you.

More latter.

C.A.G. 

 

  _  

From: "Richard Ellis" <rchrd.ell...@gmail.com>
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 7:59:27 AM
Subject: Reversing a spiral

 

Hi All and especially Mike who has a wood chuck

I am stuck my head just won't work today.

I am doing a 6 inch spiral and want to turn it into a pineapple shape. i:e 
240/40 on spindle and 240 driving a 60T

I have completed the clockwise part and am now stuck.

How do I set the gears for the anti-clockwise part???

What gears go on the leadscrew and what go on the lay / reverse shaft assembly?

Thanks

Richard

 

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Re: Reversing a spiral

[CURTIS GEORGE]

Richard there is a separate gear mechanism for the Wood Chuck, I sent you the 
WOOD CHUCK Videos, it is shown in the video how to set up the gears for 
reversing. I will see if I can find more info. for you. 
More latter. 
C.A.G. 

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From: "Richard Ellis"  
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills"  
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 7:59:27 AM 
Subject: Reversing a spiral 

Hi All and especially Mike who has a wood chuck 
I am stuck my head just won't work today. 
I am doing a 6 inch spiral and want to turn it into a pineapple shape. i:e 
240/40 on spindle and 240 driving a 60T 
I have completed the clockwise part and am now stuck. 
How do I set the gears for the anti-clockwise part??? 
What gears go on the leadscrew and what go on the lay / reverse shaft assembly? 
Thanks 
Richard 



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