Re: Dances with Aardvarks (VIDEO)

2024-09-16 Thread Tim Ziegler
interesting stuff for sure.

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Timothy J. Ziegler
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On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 8:28 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
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>
> Hello Everyone.
> this is more a lathe technique vs Legacy. But having said that, I do think
> that the Legacy could do something similar.
> I  thought it was neat! so I wanted to share the idea.
>
>
> Wood turning an Excavated Dodecahedron - Part 1 (youtube.com)
> 
>
> Woodturning Excavated Dodecahedron - Part 2 (youtube.com)
> 
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Re: Legacy Mill Cabinet Stand

2024-09-16 Thread 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Very utilitarian! Organizes and keeps things together right where you need them.Sent from Denson's iPhoneOn Sep 16, 2024, at 10:15 AM, Chris Rosenberger  wrote:I cleanup before I leave the shop for the day, no mater how tired I am. This part came from the 17+ years I spent working for a residential remodeling company. Their policy was that you did not leave a job site at the end of the day, until it was cleaned up as good or better than when you arrived in the morning. I also will cleanup some during the day. Last week I made three ten foot sections of  scalloped  fascia boards  for an old house in town. I rough cut them with a jig saw, then template routed them. I cleaned up the wood cutoffs & wood chips from each one before doing the next one.<20240912_104615.jpg>   On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 9:12:37 AM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:Hey thats great. I grew up on a dairy farm too, but somehow my shop is usually a bit messy. What do you use for a strategy to keep that tidiness endorsed??? lolKind Regards,Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cellOn Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 7:24 AM Chris Rosenberger  wrote:Thank you everyone. The clean shop is a result of my childhood. I grew up on a diary farm where everything had to be kept clean. I never lost that concept.On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 7:48:19 AM UTC-4 Ed Trevillian wrote:Outstanding !Ed TrevillianOn Sun, Sep 15, 2024, 8:22 PM Chris Rosenberger  wrote:Today I finish up a cabinet stand for my Legacy Mill. It has built in dust collection & drawers for bits & accessories. 



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Re: Legacy Mill Cabinet Stand

2024-09-16 Thread Tim Ziegler
Hey thats great. I grew up on a dairy farm too, but somehow my shop is
usually a bit messy.
What do you use for a strategy to keep that tidiness endorsed??? lol

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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320-294-5798 shop
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On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 7:24 AM Chris Rosenberger 
wrote:

> Thank you everyone. The clean shop is a result of my childhood. I grew up
> on a diary farm where everything had to be kept clean. I never lost that
> concept.
>
> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 7:48:19 AM UTC-4 Ed Trevillian wrote:
>
>> Outstanding !
>> Ed Trevillian
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 15, 2024, 8:22 PM Chris Rosenberger 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Today I finish up a cabinet stand for my Legacy Mill. It has built in
>>> dust collection & drawers for bits & accessories.
>>>  [image: 20240915_162509.jpg][image: 20240915_162418.jpg][image:
>>> 20240915_162451.jpg]
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Re: Legacy Mill Cabinet Stand

2024-09-16 Thread Chris Rosenberger
The shop floor is built over a crawlspace..

On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 8:23:59 AM UTC-4 Chris Rosenberger wrote:

> Thank you everyone. The clean shop is a result of my childhood. I grew up 
> on a diary farm where everything had to be kept clean. I never lost that 
> concept.
>
> On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 7:48:19 AM UTC-4 Ed Trevillian wrote:
>
>> Outstanding !
>> Ed Trevillian
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 15, 2024, 8:22 PM Chris Rosenberger  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Today I finish up a cabinet stand for my Legacy Mill. It has built in 
>>> dust collection & drawers for bits & accessories.
>>>  [image: 20240915_162509.jpg][image: 20240915_162418.jpg][image: 
>>> 20240915_162451.jpg]
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Re: Legacy Mill Cabinet Stand

2024-09-16 Thread Chris Rosenberger
Thank you everyone. The clean shop is a result of my childhood. I grew up 
on a diary farm where everything had to be kept clean. I never lost that 
concept.

On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 7:48:19 AM UTC-4 Ed Trevillian wrote:

> Outstanding !
> Ed Trevillian
>
> On Sun, Sep 15, 2024, 8:22 PM Chris Rosenberger  
> wrote:
>
>> Today I finish up a cabinet stand for my Legacy Mill. It has built in 
>> dust collection & drawers for bits & accessories.
>>  [image: 20240915_162509.jpg][image: 20240915_162418.jpg][image: 
>> 20240915_162451.jpg]
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Re: Making Stainless steel templates for the Legacy

2024-09-09 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Hello and Good morning everyone.

Although the answer that I wrote to Ken was correct, I would like to add a 
few things to my answer.

I really like to look and feel of bone, (I think it looks like Ivory,) 
Sadly after finding out how well bone turns, and seeing the true beauty of 
this material.  I quickly found that bone just dose not give a person 
enough thickness to turn anything large. So I started 
looking for ways to make bone more usable. This Disk cutting idea, offers a 
lot of possibility's to people like us who want to turn bone.  My videos 
help people understand my method, (I know of a few people who have 
tried it, for them self's. and have had good results.)  If anyone would 
like to know more about this process, Please ask.  For I feel there is no 
better way to improve on an idea, then to have many people look at the 
process and try
to figure out a better way.  Got'a run...

Have a good day. 

C.A.G.



On Sunday, September 8, 2024 at 11:44:43 PM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

> Hello Ken
>
> Its glued up disks of bone.  
> I have a series called bone turning 101 on Bill's web page. 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ7gn-shVYA&t=34s each video covers a 
> different detail of the process. 
> The was first was made 3 yrs ago. and part 6, 4 months ago. 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn-UvXcvsv0
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, September 8, 2024 at 10:34:54 PM EDT, Ken Fisher <
> kfis...@outlook.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Curt,
> What type of bone do you use on your handles. Is it solid or pieces glued 
> together?
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> On Sep 8, 2024 at 4:59 PM,  
> wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone.  
> I guess I got a little carried away. 
> Todays count is 71 templates for my bone handle/ magnifying glass handle 
> templates.
>
> Its a rather simple process, it just takes a few min. and a little thought 
> to make these. 
> The truth is most of these templates were just my paper copy's of what 
> I've seen on the internet.  I go to Google and search (wood handles for 
> example.) then copy and paste the design/photo, that I like onto a piece of 
> paper. form there I check my measurements, and draw the shape onto the SS 
> sheet, with a sharpie marker. 
> The key point of a template is the centerline of the part. from there all 
> the edges can be found and marked out for your template.
>
> Form there is only a simple cut (I use a grinder metal cutting wheel on a 
> hand grinder) and then some filing to the shape that I want to make.( I use 
> the pedestal grinder and hand files mostly.) Once cut out, a wire wheel on 
> my pedestal grinder to remove the burr's. and then drill a hole for hanging 
> in to the board, and we are done.
> I see general shapes only for the template, details can all be added 
> latter. (after all the waist has been removed for your part.)
>
> Once you have a template you will never have to worry about the shape , 
> that recorded in the template, All that you will have to do it figure out 
> what design element you want to add to your spindle to make it unique Like 
> my last posting of the Sep. bone handles, both were made form the same 
> template, all that I had to do is decide on what I wanted to add to the 
> shape. (rope, wave, flute to name a few.)
>
> Here are a few photo's of the templates and some of my more recent 
> turnings. (first it the two that I posted yesterday.)
>
> For any other questions as far as how I use the templates on the lathe and 
> or Legacy. is for another posting.  ;-)
>
> Any questions. Please ask.
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: A bit from Arkady

2024-09-09 Thread Tim Ziegler
Hey Curt,

Yes I will pass that on to him.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at 10:46 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I second that.  I miss our talks. let him know that he and his family are
> in our prayers.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, September 8, 2024 at 11:27:52 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
> Some good news and some not so good news for Arkady we all wish him well
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 9 September 2024 12:34 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* A bit from Arkady
>
>
>
> Hey all here are a few words and updates on our friend Arkady.
>
>
>
> Germany allowed us to stay here till 04 March 2025.
> My LOM is in Ukraine now. It is very difficult to get it in Germany.
> My son have found a possibility to come to Germany and we're very happy.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
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Re: A bit from Arkady

2024-09-09 Thread Tim Ziegler
yup, for sure I will pass that on to him.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at 10:27 PM  wrote:

> Some good news and some not so good news for Arkady we all wish him well
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 9 September 2024 12:34 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* A bit from Arkady
>
>
>
> Hey all here are a few words and updates on our friend Arkady.
>
>
>
> Germany allowed us to stay here till 04 March 2025.
> My LOM is in Ukraine now. It is very difficult to get it in Germany.
> My son have found a possibility to come to Germany and we're very happy.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
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Re: A bit from Arkady

2024-09-08 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 I second that.  I miss our talks. let him know that he and his family are in 
our prayers.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, September 8, 2024 at 11:27:52 PM EDT,  
wrote:  
 
 
Some good news and some not so good news for Arkady we all wish him well

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2024 12:34 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: A bit from Arkady

  

Hey all here are a few words and updates on our friend Arkady. 

  

Germany allowed us to stay here till 04 March 2025.
My LOM is in Ukraine now. It is very difficult to get it in Germany.
My son have found a possibility to come to Germany and we're very happy.

 


Kind Regards,

  

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

  

320-294-5798 shop

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RE: A bit from Arkady

2024-09-08 Thread bulkeley
Some good news and some not so good news for Arkady we all wish him well

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2024 12:34 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: A bit from Arkady

 

Hey all here are a few words and updates on our friend Arkady. 

 

Germany allowed us to stay here till 04 March 2025.
My LOM is in Ukraine now. It is very difficult to get it in Germany.
My son have found a possibility to come to Germany and we're very happy.

 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

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Re: Making Stainless steel templates for the Legacy

2024-09-08 Thread Ken Fisher
 
 

 Curt,
 
What type of bone do you use on your handles. Is it solid or pieces glued 
together?
 

 
Ken
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
>  
> On Sep 8, 2024 at 4:59 PM,   (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)>  wrote:
>  
>  
>
>  
> Hello Everyone.
>  
> I guess I got a little carried away.  
>  
> Todays count is 71 templates for my bone handle/ magnifying glass handle 
> templates.
>  
>
>  
> Its a rather simple process, it just takes a few min. and a little thought to 
> make these.  
>  
> The truth is most of these templates were just my paper copy's of what I've 
> seen on the internet.I go to Google and search (wood handles for 
> example.) then copy and paste the design/photo, that I like onto a piece of 
> paper. form there I check my measurements, and draw the shape onto the SS 
> sheet, with a sharpie marker.  
>  
> The key point of a template is the centerline of the part. from there all the 
> edges can be found and marked out for your template.
>  
>
>  
> Form there is only a simple cut (I use a grinder metal cutting wheel on a 
> hand grinder) and then some filing to the shape that I want to make.( I use 
> the pedestal grinder and hand files mostly.) Once cut out, a wire wheel on my 
> pedestal grinder to remove the burr's. and then drill a hole for hanging in 
> to the board, and we are done.
>  
> I see general shapes only for the template, details can all be added latter. 
> (after all the waist has been removed for your part.)
>  
>
>  
> Once you have a template you will never have to worry about the shape , that 
> recorded in the template, All that you will have to do it figure out what 
> design element you want to add to your spindle to make it unique Like my last 
> posting of the Sep. bone handles, both were made form the same template, all 
> that I had to do is decide on what I wanted to add to the shape. (rope, wave, 
> flute to name a few.)
>  
>
>  
> Here are a few photo's of the templates and some of my more recent turnings. 
> (first it the two that I posted yesterday.)
>  
>
>  
> For any other questions as far as how I use the templates on the lathe and or 
> Legacy. is for another posting.;-)
>  
>
>  
> Any questions. Please ask.
>  
>
>  
> Have a good night.
>  
>
>  
> C.A.G.
>  
>
>
>
>
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Re: Making Stainless steel templates for the Legacy

2024-09-08 Thread Tim Ziegler
Maybe after 200 or so you will find that perfect one Curt.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at 8:43 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> ;-)   Bill
> If I'm honest with my self.  I do enjoy making these templates, But I am
> still looking for the prefect shape.
> and so far I just have not found it.I've come close, but I'm still not
> there yet. ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
> On Sunday, September 8, 2024 at 09:21:24 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
> 71 I’m starting to think you might like making templates more than using
> them curt 😊
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, 9 September 2024 9:59 AM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* Making Stainless steel templates for the Legacy
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> I guess I got a little carried away.
>
> Todays count is 71 templates for my bone handle/ magnifying glass handle
> templates.
>
>
>
> Its a rather simple process, it just takes a few min. and a little thought
> to make these.
>
> The truth is most of these templates were just my paper copy's of what
> I've seen on the internet.  I go to Google and search (wood handles for
> example.) then copy and paste the design/photo, that I like onto a piece of
> paper. form there I check my measurements, and draw the shape onto the SS
> sheet, with a sharpie marker.
>
> The key point of a template is the centerline of the part. from there all
> the edges can be found and marked out for your template.
>
>
>
> Form there is only a simple cut (I use a grinder metal cutting wheel on a
> hand grinder) and then some filing to the shape that I want to make.( I use
> the pedestal grinder and hand files mostly.) Once cut out, a wire wheel on
> my pedestal grinder to remove the burr's. and then drill a hole for hanging
> in to the board, and we are done.
>
> I see general shapes only for the template, details can all be added
> latter. (after all the waist has been removed for your part.)
>
>
>
> Once you have a template you will never have to worry about the shape ,
> that recorded in the template, All that you will have to do it figure out
> what design element you want to add to your spindle to make it unique Like
> my last posting of the Sep. bone handles, both were made form the same
> template, all that I had to do is decide on what I wanted to add to the
> shape. (rope, wave, flute to name a few.)
>
>
>
> Here are a few photo's of the templates and some of my more recent
> turnings. (first it the two that I posted yesterday.)
>
>
>
> For any other questions as far as how I use the templates on the lathe and
> or Legacy. is for another posting.  ;-)
>
>
>
> Any questions. Please ask.
>
>
>
> Have a good night.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
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Re: Making Stainless steel templates for the Legacy

2024-09-08 Thread Tim Ziegler
lol
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
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On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at 8:21 PM  wrote:

> 71 I’m starting to think you might like making templates more than using
> them curt 😊
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, 9 September 2024 9:59 AM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* Making Stainless steel templates for the Legacy
>
>
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> I guess I got a little carried away.
>
> Todays count is 71 templates for my bone handle/ magnifying glass handle
> templates.
>
>
>
> Its a rather simple process, it just takes a few min. and a little thought
> to make these.
>
> The truth is most of these templates were just my paper copy's of what
> I've seen on the internet.  I go to Google and search (wood handles for
> example.) then copy and paste the design/photo, that I like onto a piece of
> paper. form there I check my measurements, and draw the shape onto the SS
> sheet, with a sharpie marker.
>
> The key point of a template is the centerline of the part. from there all
> the edges can be found and marked out for your template.
>
>
>
> Form there is only a simple cut (I use a grinder metal cutting wheel on a
> hand grinder) and then some filing to the shape that I want to make.( I use
> the pedestal grinder and hand files mostly.) Once cut out, a wire wheel on
> my pedestal grinder to remove the burr's. and then drill a hole for hanging
> in to the board, and we are done.
>
> I see general shapes only for the template, details can all be added
> latter. (after all the waist has been removed for your part.)
>
>
>
> Once you have a template you will never have to worry about the shape ,
> that recorded in the template, All that you will have to do it figure out
> what design element you want to add to your spindle to make it unique Like
> my last posting of the Sep. bone handles, both were made form the same
> template, all that I had to do is decide on what I wanted to add to the
> shape. (rope, wave, flute to name a few.)
>
>
>
> Here are a few photo's of the templates and some of my more recent
> turnings. (first it the two that I posted yesterday.)
>
>
>
> For any other questions as far as how I use the templates on the lathe and
> or Legacy. is for another posting.  ;-)
>
>
>
> Any questions. Please ask.
>
>
>
> Have a good night.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
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Re: Making Stainless steel templates for the Legacy

2024-09-08 Thread Tim Ziegler
Looking good Curt. All in a day's play lol.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at 6:58 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Everyone.
> I guess I got a little carried away.
> Todays count is 71 templates for my bone handle/ magnifying glass handle
> templates.
>
> Its a rather simple process, it just takes a few min. and a little thought
> to make these.
> The truth is most of these templates were just my paper copy's of what
> I've seen on the internet.  I go to Google and search (wood handles for
> example.) then copy and paste the design/photo, that I like onto a piece of
> paper. form there I check my measurements, and draw the shape onto the SS
> sheet, with a sharpie marker.
> The key point of a template is the centerline of the part. from there all
> the edges can be found and marked out for your template.
>
> Form there is only a simple cut (I use a grinder metal cutting wheel on a
> hand grinder) and then some filing to the shape that I want to make.( I use
> the pedestal grinder and hand files mostly.) Once cut out, a wire wheel on
> my pedestal grinder to remove the burr's. and then drill a hole for hanging
> in to the board, and we are done.
> I see general shapes only for the template, details can all be added
> latter. (after all the waist has been removed for your part.)
>
> Once you have a template you will never have to worry about the shape ,
> that recorded in the template, All that you will have to do it figure out
> what design element you want to add to your spindle to make it unique Like
> my last posting of the Sep. bone handles, both were made form the same
> template, all that I had to do is decide on what I wanted to add to the
> shape. (rope, wave, flute to name a few.)
>
> Here are a few photo's of the templates and some of my more recent
> turnings. (first it the two that I posted yesterday.)
>
> For any other questions as far as how I use the templates on the lathe and
> or Legacy. is for another posting.  ;-)
>
> Any questions. Please ask.
>
> Have a good night.
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: Making Stainless steel templates for the Legacy

2024-09-08 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 ;-)   Bill If I'm honest with my self.  I do enjoy making these templates, But 
I am still looking for the prefect shape.and so far I just have not found it.   
 I've come close, but I'm still not there yet. ;-) 
C.A.G.

On Sunday, September 8, 2024 at 09:21:24 PM EDT,  
wrote:  
 
 
71 I’m starting to think you might like making templates more than using them 
curt 😊

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2024 9:59 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: Making Stainless steel templates for the Legacy

  

Hello Everyone.  

I guess I got a little carried away. 

Todays count is 71 templates for my bone handle/ magnifying glass handle 
templates.

  

Its a rather simple process, it just takes a few min. and a little thought to 
make these. 

The truth is most of these templates were just my paper copy's of what I've 
seen on the internet.  I go to Google and search (wood handles for example.) 
then copy and paste the design/photo, that I like onto a piece of paper. form 
there I check my measurements, and draw the shape onto the SS sheet, with a 
sharpie marker. 

The key point of a template is the centerline of the part. from there all the 
edges can be found and marked out for your template.

  

Form there is only a simple cut (I use a grinder metal cutting wheel on a hand 
grinder) and then some filing to the shape that I want to make.( I use the 
pedestal grinder and hand files mostly.) Once cut out, a wire wheel on my 
pedestal grinder to remove the burr's. and then drill a hole for hanging in to 
the board, and we are done.

I see general shapes only for the template, details can all be added latter. 
(after all the waist has been removed for your part.)

  

Once you have a template you will never have to worry about the shape , that 
recorded in the template, All that you will have to do it figure out what 
design element you want to add to your spindle to make it unique Like my last 
posting of the Sep. bone handles, both were made form the same template, all 
that I had to do is decide on what I wanted to add to the shape. (rope, wave, 
flute to name a few.)

  

Here are a few photo's of the templates and some of my more recent turnings. 
(first it the two that I posted yesterday.)

  

For any other questions as far as how I use the templates on the lathe and or 
Legacy. is for another posting.  ;-)

  

Any questions. Please ask.

  

Have a good night.

  

C.A.G.

  

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RE: Making Stainless steel templates for the Legacy

2024-09-08 Thread bulkeley
71 I’m starting to think you might like making templates more than using them 
curt 😊

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2024 9:59 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: Making Stainless steel templates for the Legacy

 

Hello Everyone.  

I guess I got a little carried away. 

Todays count is 71 templates for my bone handle/ magnifying glass handle 
templates.

 

Its a rather simple process, it just takes a few min. and a little thought to 
make these. 

The truth is most of these templates were just my paper copy's of what I've 
seen on the internet.  I go to Google and search (wood handles for example.) 
then copy and paste the design/photo, that I like onto a piece of paper. form 
there I check my measurements, and draw the shape onto the SS sheet, with a 
sharpie marker. 

The key point of a template is the centerline of the part. from there all the 
edges can be found and marked out for your template.

 

Form there is only a simple cut (I use a grinder metal cutting wheel on a hand 
grinder) and then some filing to the shape that I want to make.( I use the 
pedestal grinder and hand files mostly.) Once cut out, a wire wheel on my 
pedestal grinder to remove the burr's. and then drill a hole for hanging in to 
the board, and we are done.

I see general shapes only for the template, details can all be added latter. 
(after all the waist has been removed for your part.)

 

Once you have a template you will never have to worry about the shape , that 
recorded in the template, All that you will have to do it figure out what 
design element you want to add to your spindle to make it unique Like my last 
posting of the Sep. bone handles, both were made form the same template, all 
that I had to do is decide on what I wanted to add to the shape. (rope, wave, 
flute to name a few.)

 

Here are a few photo's of the templates and some of my more recent turnings. 
(first it the two that I posted yesterday.)

 

For any other questions as far as how I use the templates on the lathe and or 
Legacy. is for another posting.  ;-)

 

Any questions. Please ask.

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

 

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Re: Hold-downs that some may find useful

2024-09-08 Thread Tim Ziegler
Hey Mac,

Yeah I saw them. Rockler is popping out a lot of new innovations again.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Sep 7, 2024 at 9:23 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> I got an email from Rockler Woodworking & Hardware that had this
> interesting hold-down for when you need to secure a piece of wood while
> working it - whether you're using a CNC, LOM, or hand tools.
>
>
>
> I figure one or more of our Group members will find them useful.
>
>
>
> Here's the link:
>
>
>
> Rockler "Slab Gripper Hold-Down Clamps, 4-pack"
> 
>
>
>
> Enjoy.
>
> Mac
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Re: Hold-downs that some may find useful

2024-09-07 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Hi Guys. (just got home.)
I like those hold down clamps.  Thank you Mac.(I don't know if I will buy them, 
But I do think that they are neat.)
C.A.G.
On Saturday, September 7, 2024 at 10:33:50 PM EDT,  
wrote:  
 
 
I saw that mac but I’m not a fan of marking the timber 

  

Bill

  

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Sunday, 8 September 2024 12:23 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Hold-downs that some may find useful

  

I got an email from Rockler Woodworking & Hardware that had this interesting 
hold-down for when you need to secure a piece of wood while working it - 
whether you're using a CNC, LOM, or hand tools.

 

I figure one or more of our Group members will find them useful.

 

Here's the link:

 

Rockler "Slab Gripper Hold-Down Clamps, 4-pack"

 

Enjoy.

Mac

 

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RE: Hold-downs that some may find useful

2024-09-07 Thread bulkeley
I saw that mac but I’m not a fan of marking the timber 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Sunday, 8 September 2024 12:23 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Hold-downs that some may find useful

 

I got an email from Rockler Woodworking & Hardware that had this interesting 
hold-down for when you need to secure a piece of wood while working it - 
whether you're using a CNC, LOM, or hand tools.

 

I figure one or more of our Group members will find them useful.

 

Here's the link:

 

Rockler  

 "Slab Gripper Hold-Down Clamps, 4-pack"

 

Enjoy.

Mac

  _  

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Re: Today's Sep Bone turnings

2024-09-07 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com
Really nice.
DanK


On Saturday, September 7, 2024 at 12:24:09 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:

> Looking good Curt. 
> Keep up the amazing work. 
> The right one is my favorite. 
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
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>
>
> On Sat, Sep 7, 2024 at 10:06 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone.
>>
>> I Made some time this morning to do two bone turnings.
>> These two handles were made form the same templates, One roped and then I 
>> added some details/turned on my lathe, The other was cut and then I used 
>> the wave attachment with 4 starts.
>> Please let me know what you think?  
>> If you have any questions, Please ask.
>>
>> Have a good day. 
>> C.A.G.
>> [image: Inline image]
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Re: Legacy miter kit

2024-09-03 Thread Tim Ziegler
For sure Bill
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 4:27 AM  wrote:

> Me too I got lots of gears and use them too
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 3 September 2024 2:02 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy miter kit
>
>
>
> Tim,
>
> I'm w/you - gears.  We got 'em - use 'em!
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Sep 2, 2024 10:24 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Legacy miter kit
>
>
>
> That will be fun to see Dan,
>
> Look forward to what you come up with for sure.
>
> Me personally, I was doing the  gear thing.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
> --
>
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 3:33 PM cdkr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> Understood.  I do have a biscuit joiner and I like using it.  This was
> just a shiny object that caught my attention.
>
>
>
> BTW, I'm planning on putting a 3/4-16 threaded rod on the feed screw
> bearings to address several issues, one of them being to index box joints
> more accurately. Other benefits include much increased range of pitches.
>
>
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> DanK
> --
> --
>
> On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 1:51:27 PM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au
> wrote:
>
> Good luck with that one I been trying to replace mine for years but it was
> not that good anyway you can do a much better job with a floating tenon
>
> Like the festool domino tool does or even the good old biscuit joiner
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
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Re: Legacy miter kit

2024-09-03 Thread Tim Ziegler
For sure Mac

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 11:01 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Tim,
>
> I'm w/you - gears.  We got 'em - use 'em!
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Sep 2, 2024 10:24 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Legacy miter kit
>
>
> That will be fun to see Dan,
> Look forward to what you come up with for sure.
> Me personally, I was doing the  gear thing.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
> --
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 3:33 PM cdkr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Understood.  I do have a biscuit joiner and I like using it.  This was
>> just a shiny object that caught my attention.
>>
>> BTW, I'm planning on putting a 3/4-16 threaded rod on the feed screw
>> bearings to address several issues, one of them being to index box joints
>> more accurately. Other benefits include much increased range of pitches.
>>
>> Thanks for the help.
>> DanK
>> --
>> --
>> On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 1:51:27 PM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Good luck with that one I been trying to replace mine for years but it
>>> was not that good anyway you can do a much better job with a floating tenon
>>>
>>> Like the festool domino tool does or even the good old biscuit joiner
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
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RE: Legacy miter kit

2024-09-03 Thread bulkeley
Me too I got lots of gears and use them too

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2024 2:02 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy miter kit

 

Tim,

I'm w/you - gears.  We got 'em - use 'em!

Mac

  _  

  _  

-Original Message-
From: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Sent: Sep 2, 2024 10:24 PM
To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Legacy miter kit

 

That will be fun to see Dan,  

Look forward to what you come up with for sure. 

Me personally, I was doing the  gear thing. 

 

Kind Regards, 

Timothy J. Ziegler

  _  

  _  

On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 3:33 PM cdkr...@gmail.com <mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com>  
mailto:cdkra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Understood.  I do have a biscuit joiner and I like using it.  This was just a 
shiny object that caught my attention.  

 

BTW, I'm planning on putting a 3/4-16 threaded rod on the feed screw bearings 
to address several issues, one of them being to index box joints more 
accurately. Other benefits include much increased range of pitches.  

 

Thanks for the help.

DanK

  _  

  _  

On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 1:51:27 PM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:

Good luck with that one I been trying to replace mine for years but it was not 
that good anyway you can do a much better job with a floating tenon 

Like the festool domino tool does or even the good old biscuit joiner 

 

Bill

 

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Re: Legacy miter kit

2024-09-02 Thread M.W.Foscue
Tim,
I'm w/you - gears.  We got 'em - use 'em!
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Sep 2, 2024 10:24 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Legacy miter kit

That will be fun to see Dan, Look forward to what you come up with for sure. 
Me personally, I was doing the  gear thing. 
 
Kind Regards,Timothy J. Ziegler





On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 3:33 PM cdkr...@gmail.com (mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com) 
mailto:cdkra...@gmail.com)> wrote:
Understood.  I do have a biscuit joiner and I like using it.  This was just a 
shiny object that caught my attention.  
 
BTW, I'm planning on putting a 3/4-16 threaded rod on the feed screw bearings 
to address several issues, one of them being to index box joints more 
accurately. Other benefits include much increased range of pitches.  
 
Thanks for the help.
DanK
On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 1:51:27 PM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
(mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au) wrote:
Good luck with that one I been trying to replace mine for years but it was not 
that good anyway you can do a much better job with a floating tenon 
Like the festool domino tool does or even the good old biscuit joiner 


 
Bill
 





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Re: Legacy miter kit

2024-09-02 Thread Tim Ziegler
That will be fun to see Dan,
Look forward to what you come up with for sure.
Me personally, I was doing the  gear thing.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 3:33 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Understood.  I do have a biscuit joiner and I like using it.  This was
> just a shiny object that caught my attention.
>
> BTW, I'm planning on putting a 3/4-16 threaded rod on the feed screw
> bearings to address several issues, one of them being to index box joints
> more accurately. Other benefits include much increased range of pitches.
>
> Thanks for the help.
> DanK
>
> On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 1:51:27 PM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au
> wrote:
>
>> Good luck with that one I been trying to replace mine for years but it
>> was not that good anyway you can do a much better job with a floating tenon
>>
>> Like the festool domino tool does or even the good old biscuit joiner
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> *On Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 3 September 2024 3:34 AM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> *Subject:* Re: Legacy miter kit
>>
>>
>>
>> That's it exactly, Bill.  Thank you.  I understand like a grownup now.
>> It works very differently than I thought and nothing I could see indicated
>> that it was a mortise tenon setup.  Now the question is...where could I buy
>> one of these?
>>
>> DanK
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 12:42:41 PM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au
>> wrote:
>>
>> You mean something like this  the videos don’t work but you can see it
>> installed on to the revo
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> *On Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
>> *Sent:* Monday, 2 September 2024 11:59 PM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> *Subject:* Re: Legacy miter kit
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, you got it, the REVO framing kit.  I'd like to find some
>> instructions on how it was intended to be used.
>>
>> DanK
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 8:42:35 AM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes that’s it what I was saying
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Monday, 2 September 2024 9:04 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Legacy miter kit
>>
>>
>>
>> So Dan,
>>
>>
>>
>> Is this what you were referring to?  See attached
>>
>> This is what I think Bill thought you meant.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 10:35 PM  wrote:
>>
>> After reading this again if you mean the revo framing kit then yes I have
>> used it before
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> *On Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
>> *Sent:* Monday, 2 September 2024 11:57 AM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> *Subject:* Legacy miter kit
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone used the miter kit offered by Legacy?  I ran across pictures
>> in the owners manual showing it as an option, but can't find any
>> instruction material for it. It's no longer available, but it doesn't look
>> that hard to make if it works like I think it works. I guess it was
>> designed with picture framing in mind.  It's hard to imagine a router bit
>> making a decent miter cut in 1" thick material partly because it looks like
>> one end would be climb cut into the grain, a big no-no.  Multi-pass cutting
>> a increasing depths would be possible, but that leads to steps however
>> minute they may be.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am getting ready to cut box joints into a sizable box for a Stanley 55
>> plane.  I used FreeCAD to make a parametric drawing so other boxes for the
>> 45 and 46 pla

Re: Legacy miter kit

2024-09-02 Thread Tim Ziegler
yeah bummer. It would be fun to run across a set of them.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 12:51 PM  wrote:

> Good luck with that one I been trying to replace mine for years but it was
> not that good anyway you can do a much better job with a floating tenon
>
> Like the festool domino tool does or even the good old biscuit joiner
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 3 September 2024 3:34 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy miter kit
>
>
>
> That's it exactly, Bill.  Thank you.  I understand like a grownup now.  It
> works very differently than I thought and nothing I could see indicated
> that it was a mortise tenon setup.  Now the question is...where could I buy
> one of these?
>
> DanK
>
>
>
> On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 12:42:41 PM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au
> wrote:
>
> You mean something like this  the videos don’t work but you can see it
> installed on to the revo
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Monday, 2 September 2024 11:59 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy miter kit
>
>
>
> Yes, you got it, the REVO framing kit.  I'd like to find some instructions
> on how it was intended to be used.
>
> DanK
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 8:42:35 AM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au
> wrote:
>
> Yes that’s it what I was saying
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 2 September 2024 9:04 PM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy miter kit
>
>
>
> So Dan,
>
>
>
> Is this what you were referring to?  See attached
>
> This is what I think Bill thought you meant.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 10:35 PM  wrote:
>
> After reading this again if you mean the revo framing kit then yes I have
> used it before
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On
> Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Monday, 2 September 2024 11:57 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Legacy miter kit
>
>
>
> Has anyone used the miter kit offered by Legacy?  I ran across pictures in
> the owners manual showing it as an option, but can't find any instruction
> material for it. It's no longer available, but it doesn't look that hard to
> make if it works like I think it works. I guess it was designed with
> picture framing in mind.  It's hard to imagine a router bit making a decent
> miter cut in 1" thick material partly because it looks like one end would
> be climb cut into the grain, a big no-no.  Multi-pass cutting a increasing
> depths would be possible, but that leads to steps however minute they may
> be.
>
>
>
> I am getting ready to cut box joints into a sizable box for a Stanley 55
> plane.  I used FreeCAD to make a parametric drawing so other boxes for the
> 45 and 46 planes can be automatically drawn by updating the inside
> dimensions of the box. Pretty slick.
>
>
>
> Adding the capability of mitering frames brings a whole new dimension to
> parametric design  Love these machines!  Combined with the innate
> capability to make short moldings with ornamental features could lead to
> some interesting stuff.
>
>
>
> DanK
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Re: Legacy miter kit

2024-09-02 Thread Tim Ziegler
Hey Dan,

We will have to have the battle of Market Place and see which of us finds
one first. lol.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 12:33 PM cdkr...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> That's it exactly, Bill.  Thank you.  I understand like a grownup now.  It
> works very differently than I thought and nothing I could see indicated
> that it was a mortise tenon setup.  Now the question is...where could I buy
> one of these?
> DanK
>
> On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 12:42:41 PM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au
> wrote:
>
>> You mean something like this  the videos don’t work but you can see it
>> installed on to the revo
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> *On Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
>> *Sent:* Monday, 2 September 2024 11:59 PM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> *Subject:* Re: Legacy miter kit
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, you got it, the REVO framing kit.  I'd like to find some
>> instructions on how it was intended to be used.
>>
>> DanK
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 8:42:35 AM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes that’s it what I was saying
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Monday, 2 September 2024 9:04 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Legacy miter kit
>>
>>
>>
>> So Dan,
>>
>>
>>
>> Is this what you were referring to?  See attached
>>
>> This is what I think Bill thought you meant.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 10:35 PM  wrote:
>>
>> After reading this again if you mean the revo framing kit then yes I have
>> used it before
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> *On Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
>> *Sent:* Monday, 2 September 2024 11:57 AM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> *Subject:* Legacy miter kit
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone used the miter kit offered by Legacy?  I ran across pictures
>> in the owners manual showing it as an option, but can't find any
>> instruction material for it. It's no longer available, but it doesn't look
>> that hard to make if it works like I think it works. I guess it was
>> designed with picture framing in mind.  It's hard to imagine a router bit
>> making a decent miter cut in 1" thick material partly because it looks like
>> one end would be climb cut into the grain, a big no-no.  Multi-pass cutting
>> a increasing depths would be possible, but that leads to steps however
>> minute they may be.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am getting ready to cut box joints into a sizable box for a Stanley 55
>> plane.  I used FreeCAD to make a parametric drawing so other boxes for the
>> 45 and 46 planes can be automatically drawn by updating the inside
>> dimensions of the box. Pretty slick.
>>
>>
>>
>> Adding the capability of mitering frames brings a whole new dimension to
>> parametric design  Love these machines!  Combined with the innate
>> capability to make short moldings with ornamental features could lead to
>> some interesting stuff.
>>
>>
>>
>> DanK
>>
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RE: Legacy miter kit

2024-09-02 Thread bulkeley
Sounds good to me new half nut too sounds like a plan curt did similar on his 
mill

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2024 6:34 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Legacy miter kit

 

Understood.  I do have a biscuit joiner and I like using it.  This was just a 
shiny object that caught my attention.  

 

BTW, I'm planning on putting a 3/4-16 threaded rod on the feed screw bearings 
to address several issues, one of them being to index box joints more 
accurately. Other benefits include much increased range of pitches.  

 

Thanks for the help.

DanK

 

On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 1:51:27 PM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:

Good luck with that one I been trying to replace mine for years but it was not 
that good anyway you can do a much better job with a floating tenon 

Like the festool domino tool does or even the good old biscuit joiner 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.com <mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2024 3:34 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Legacy miter kit

 

That's it exactly, Bill.  Thank you.  I understand like a grownup now.  It 
works very differently than I thought and nothing I could see indicated that it 
was a mortise tenon setup.  Now the question is...where could I buy one of 
these?   

DanK

 

On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 12:42:41 PM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:

You mean something like this  the videos don’t work but you can see it 
installed on to the revo

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.com <mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, 2 September 2024 11:59 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Legacy miter kit

 

Yes, you got it, the REVO framing kit.  I'd like to find some instructions on 
how it was intended to be used.

DanK

 

 

On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 8:42:35 AM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:

Yes that’s it what I was saying

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 2 September 2024 9:04 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Legacy miter kit

 

So Dan, 

 

Is this what you were referring to?  See attached

This is what I think Bill thought you meant. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 10:35 PM mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

After reading this again if you mean the revo framing kit then yes I have used 
it before 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.com <mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, 2 September 2024 11:57 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Legacy miter kit

 

Has anyone used the miter kit offered by Legacy?  I ran across pictures in the 
owners manual showing it as an option, but can't find any instruction material 
for it. It's no longer available, but it doesn't look that hard to make if it 
works like I think it works. I guess it was designed with picture framing in 
mind.  It's hard to imagine a router bit making a decent miter cut in 1" thick 
material partly because it looks like one end would be climb cut into the 
grain, a big no-no.  Multi-pass cutting a increasing depths would be possible, 
but that leads to steps however minute they may be.  

 

I am getting ready to cut box joints into a sizable box for a Stanley 55 plane. 
 I used FreeCAD to make a parametric drawing so other boxes for the 45 and 46 
planes can be automatically drawn by updating the inside dimensions of the box. 
Pretty slick.

 

Adding the capability of mitering frames brings a whole new dimension to 
parametric design  Love these machines!  Combined with the innate 
capability to make short moldings with ornamental features could lead to some 
interesting stuff.

 

DanK

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Re: Legacy miter kit

2024-09-02 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com
Understood.  I do have a biscuit joiner and I like using it.  This was just 
a shiny object that caught my attention.  

BTW, I'm planning on putting a 3/4-16 threaded rod on the feed screw 
bearings to address several issues, one of them being to index box joints 
more accurately. Other benefits include much increased range of pitches.  

Thanks for the help.
DanK

On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 1:51:27 PM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:

> Good luck with that one I been trying to replace mine for years but it was 
> not that good anyway you can do a much better job with a floating tenon 
>
> Like the festool domino tool does or even the good old biscuit joiner 
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 3 September 2024 3:34 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy miter kit
>
>  
>
> That's it exactly, Bill.  Thank you.  I understand like a grownup now.  It 
> works very differently than I thought and nothing I could see indicated 
> that it was a mortise tenon setup.  Now the question is...where could I buy 
> one of these?   
>
> DanK
>
>  
>
> On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 12:42:41 PM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
> wrote:
>
> You mean something like this  the videos don’t work but you can see it 
> installed on to the revo
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Monday, 2 September 2024 11:59 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy miter kit
>
>  
>
> Yes, you got it, the REVO framing kit.  I'd like to find some instructions 
> on how it was intended to be used.
>
> DanK
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 8:42:35 AM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
> wrote:
>
> Yes that’s it what I was saying
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 2 September 2024 9:04 PM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy miter kit
>
>  
>
> So Dan, 
>
>  
>
> Is this what you were referring to?  See attached
>
> This is what I think Bill thought you meant. 
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>  
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>  
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 10:35 PM  wrote:
>
> After reading this again if you mean the revo framing kit then yes I have 
> used it before 
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Monday, 2 September 2024 11:57 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Legacy miter kit
>
>  
>
> Has anyone used the miter kit offered by Legacy?  I ran across pictures in 
> the owners manual showing it as an option, but can't find any instruction 
> material for it. It's no longer available, but it doesn't look that hard to 
> make if it works like I think it works. I guess it was designed with 
> picture framing in mind.  It's hard to imagine a router bit making a decent 
> miter cut in 1" thick material partly because it looks like one end would 
> be climb cut into the grain, a big no-no.  Multi-pass cutting a increasing 
> depths would be possible, but that leads to steps however minute they may 
> be.  
>
>  
>
> I am getting ready to cut box joints into a sizable box for a Stanley 55 
> plane.  I used FreeCAD to make a parametric drawing so other boxes for the 
> 45 and 46 planes can be automatically drawn by updating the inside 
> dimensions of the box. Pretty slick.
>
>  
>
> Adding the capability of mitering frames brings a whole new dimension to 
> parametric design  Love these machines!  Combined with the innate 
> capability to make short moldings with ornamental features could lead to 
> some interesting stuff.
>
>  
>
> DanK
>
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RE: Legacy miter kit

2024-09-02 Thread bulkeley
Good luck with that one I been trying to replace mine for years but it was not 
that good anyway you can do a much better job with a floating tenon 

Like the festool domino tool does or even the good old biscuit joiner 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2024 3:34 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: Legacy miter kit

 

That's it exactly, Bill.  Thank you.  I understand like a grownup now.  It 
works very differently than I thought and nothing I could see indicated that it 
was a mortise tenon setup.  Now the question is...where could I buy one of 
these?   

DanK

 

On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 12:42:41 PM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:

You mean something like this  the videos don’t work but you can see it 
installed on to the revo

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.com <mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, 2 September 2024 11:59 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Legacy miter kit

 

Yes, you got it, the REVO framing kit.  I'd like to find some instructions on 
how it was intended to be used.

DanK

 

 

On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 8:42:35 AM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:

Yes that’s it what I was saying

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 2 September 2024 9:04 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Legacy miter kit

 

So Dan, 

 

Is this what you were referring to?  See attached

This is what I think Bill thought you meant. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 10:35 PM mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

After reading this again if you mean the revo framing kit then yes I have used 
it before 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > On 
Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.com <mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, 2 September 2024 11:57 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Legacy miter kit

 

Has anyone used the miter kit offered by Legacy?  I ran across pictures in the 
owners manual showing it as an option, but can't find any instruction material 
for it. It's no longer available, but it doesn't look that hard to make if it 
works like I think it works. I guess it was designed with picture framing in 
mind.  It's hard to imagine a router bit making a decent miter cut in 1" thick 
material partly because it looks like one end would be climb cut into the 
grain, a big no-no.  Multi-pass cutting a increasing depths would be possible, 
but that leads to steps however minute they may be.  

 

I am getting ready to cut box joints into a sizable box for a Stanley 55 plane. 
 I used FreeCAD to make a parametric drawing so other boxes for the 45 and 46 
planes can be automatically drawn by updating the inside dimensions of the box. 
Pretty slick.

 

Adding the capability of mitering frames brings a whole new dimension to 
parametric design  Love these machines!  Combined with the innate 
capability to make short moldings with ornamental features could lead to some 
interesting stuff.

 

DanK

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Re: Legacy miter kit

2024-09-02 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com
That's it exactly, Bill.  Thank you.  I understand like a grownup now.  It 
works very differently than I thought and nothing I could see indicated 
that it was a mortise tenon setup.  Now the question is...where could I buy 
one of these?   
DanK

On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 12:42:41 PM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
wrote:

> You mean something like this  the videos don’t work but you can see it 
> installed on to the revo
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Monday, 2 September 2024 11:59 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy miter kit
>
>  
>
> Yes, you got it, the REVO framing kit.  I'd like to find some instructions 
> on how it was intended to be used.
>
> DanK
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 8:42:35 AM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au 
> wrote:
>
> Yes that’s it what I was saying
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 2 September 2024 9:04 PM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy miter kit
>
>  
>
> So Dan, 
>
>  
>
> Is this what you were referring to?  See attached
>
> This is what I think Bill thought you meant. 
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>  
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>  
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 10:35 PM  wrote:
>
> After reading this again if you mean the revo framing kit then yes I have 
> used it before 
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Monday, 2 September 2024 11:57 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Legacy miter kit
>
>  
>
> Has anyone used the miter kit offered by Legacy?  I ran across pictures in 
> the owners manual showing it as an option, but can't find any instruction 
> material for it. It's no longer available, but it doesn't look that hard to 
> make if it works like I think it works. I guess it was designed with 
> picture framing in mind.  It's hard to imagine a router bit making a decent 
> miter cut in 1" thick material partly because it looks like one end would 
> be climb cut into the grain, a big no-no.  Multi-pass cutting a increasing 
> depths would be possible, but that leads to steps however minute they may 
> be.  
>
>  
>
> I am getting ready to cut box joints into a sizable box for a Stanley 55 
> plane.  I used FreeCAD to make a parametric drawing so other boxes for the 
> 45 and 46 planes can be automatically drawn by updating the inside 
> dimensions of the box. Pretty slick.
>
>  
>
> Adding the capability of mitering frames brings a whole new dimension to 
> parametric design  Love these machines!  Combined with the innate 
> capability to make short moldings with ornamental features could lead to 
> some interesting stuff.
>
>  
>
> DanK
>
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Re: Legacy miter kit

2024-09-02 Thread Tim Ziegler
Very cool. I don't own it. I actually didn't even think it was a thing
until you mentioned it. I did find this pic in my Revo manual.  So now I'll
do some digging

On Mon, Sep 2, 2024, 8:58 AM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Yes, you got it, the REVO framing kit.  I'd like to find some instructions
> on how it was intended to be used.
> DanK
>
>
> On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 8:42:35 AM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au
> wrote:
>
>> Yes that’s it what I was saying
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>> *Sent:* Monday, 2 September 2024 9:04 PM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Legacy miter kit
>>
>>
>>
>> So Dan,
>>
>>
>>
>> Is this what you were referring to?  See attached
>>
>> This is what I think Bill thought you meant.
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>>
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 10:35 PM  wrote:
>>
>> After reading this again if you mean the revo framing kit then yes I have
>> used it before
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>> *On Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
>> *Sent:* Monday, 2 September 2024 11:57 AM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>> *Subject:* Legacy miter kit
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone used the miter kit offered by Legacy?  I ran across pictures
>> in the owners manual showing it as an option, but can't find any
>> instruction material for it. It's no longer available, but it doesn't look
>> that hard to make if it works like I think it works. I guess it was
>> designed with picture framing in mind.  It's hard to imagine a router bit
>> making a decent miter cut in 1" thick material partly because it looks like
>> one end would be climb cut into the grain, a big no-no.  Multi-pass cutting
>> a increasing depths would be possible, but that leads to steps however
>> minute they may be.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am getting ready to cut box joints into a sizable box for a Stanley 55
>> plane.  I used FreeCAD to make a parametric drawing so other boxes for the
>> 45 and 46 planes can be automatically drawn by updating the inside
>> dimensions of the box. Pretty slick.
>>
>>
>>
>> Adding the capability of mitering frames brings a whole new dimension to
>> parametric design  Love these machines!  Combined with the innate
>> capability to make short moldings with ornamental features could lead to
>> some interesting stuff.
>>
>>
>>
>> DanK
>>
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Re: Legacy miter kit

2024-09-02 Thread Tim Ziegler
Thanks Bill. I don't have that for my Revo

On Mon, Sep 2, 2024, 7:42 AM  wrote:

> Yes that’s it what I was saying
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 2 September 2024 9:04 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy miter kit
>
>
>
> So Dan,
>
>
>
> Is this what you were referring to?  See attached
>
> This is what I think Bill thought you meant.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail&source=g>
>
> Foreston MN 56330
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+Foreston+MN+56330?entry=gmail&source=g>
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 10:35 PM  wrote:
>
> After reading this again if you mean the revo framing kit then yes I have
> used it before
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Monday, 2 September 2024 11:57 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Legacy miter kit
>
>
>
> Has anyone used the miter kit offered by Legacy?  I ran across pictures in
> the owners manual showing it as an option, but can't find any instruction
> material for it. It's no longer available, but it doesn't look that hard to
> make if it works like I think it works. I guess it was designed with
> picture framing in mind.  It's hard to imagine a router bit making a decent
> miter cut in 1" thick material partly because it looks like one end would
> be climb cut into the grain, a big no-no.  Multi-pass cutting a increasing
> depths would be possible, but that leads to steps however minute they may
> be.
>
>
>
> I am getting ready to cut box joints into a sizable box for a Stanley 55
> plane.  I used FreeCAD to make a parametric drawing so other boxes for the
> 45 and 46 planes can be automatically drawn by updating the inside
> dimensions of the box. Pretty slick.
>
>
>
> Adding the capability of mitering frames brings a whole new dimension to
> parametric design  Love these machines!  Combined with the innate
> capability to make short moldings with ornamental features could lead to
> some interesting stuff.
>
>
>
> DanK
>
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Re: Legacy miter kit

2024-09-02 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com
Yes, you got it, the REVO framing kit.  I'd like to find some instructions 
on how it was intended to be used.
DanK


On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 8:42:35 AM UTC-4 bulk...@mmnet.com.au wrote:

> Yes that’s it what I was saying
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Monday, 2 September 2024 9:04 PM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Legacy miter kit
>
>  
>
> So Dan, 
>
>  
>
> Is this what you were referring to?  See attached
>
> This is what I think Bill thought you meant. 
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>  
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>  
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 10:35 PM  wrote:
>
> After reading this again if you mean the revo framing kit then yes I have 
> used it before 
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Monday, 2 September 2024 11:57 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Legacy miter kit
>
>  
>
> Has anyone used the miter kit offered by Legacy?  I ran across pictures in 
> the owners manual showing it as an option, but can't find any instruction 
> material for it. It's no longer available, but it doesn't look that hard to 
> make if it works like I think it works. I guess it was designed with 
> picture framing in mind.  It's hard to imagine a router bit making a decent 
> miter cut in 1" thick material partly because it looks like one end would 
> be climb cut into the grain, a big no-no.  Multi-pass cutting a increasing 
> depths would be possible, but that leads to steps however minute they may 
> be.  
>
>  
>
> I am getting ready to cut box joints into a sizable box for a Stanley 55 
> plane.  I used FreeCAD to make a parametric drawing so other boxes for the 
> 45 and 46 planes can be automatically drawn by updating the inside 
> dimensions of the box. Pretty slick.
>
>  
>
> Adding the capability of mitering frames brings a whole new dimension to 
> parametric design  Love these machines!  Combined with the innate 
> capability to make short moldings with ornamental features could lead to 
> some interesting stuff.
>
>  
>
> DanK
>
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RE: Legacy miter kit

2024-09-02 Thread bulkeley
Yes that’s it what I was saying

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Monday, 2 September 2024 9:04 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Legacy miter kit

 

So Dan, 

 

Is this what you were referring to?  See attached

This is what I think Bill thought you meant. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 10:35 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

After reading this again if you mean the revo framing kit then yes I have used 
it before 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
cdkr...@gmail.com <mailto:cdkr...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, 2 September 2024 11:57 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Legacy miter kit

 

Has anyone used the miter kit offered by Legacy?  I ran across pictures in the 
owners manual showing it as an option, but can't find any instruction material 
for it. It's no longer available, but it doesn't look that hard to make if it 
works like I think it works. I guess it was designed with picture framing in 
mind.  It's hard to imagine a router bit making a decent miter cut in 1" thick 
material partly because it looks like one end would be climb cut into the 
grain, a big no-no.  Multi-pass cutting a increasing depths would be possible, 
but that leads to steps however minute they may be.  

 

I am getting ready to cut box joints into a sizable box for a Stanley 55 plane. 
 I used FreeCAD to make a parametric drawing so other boxes for the 45 and 46 
planes can be automatically drawn by updating the inside dimensions of the box. 
Pretty slick.

 

Adding the capability of mitering frames brings a whole new dimension to 
parametric design  Love these machines!  Combined with the innate 
capability to make short moldings with ornamental features could lead to some 
interesting stuff.

 

DanK

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Re: Legacy miter kit

2024-09-02 Thread Tim Ziegler
Anyone got pix? Be curious to see if I have this capability?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 10:35 PM  wrote:

> After reading this again if you mean the revo framing kit then yes I have
> used it before
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *cdkr...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Monday, 2 September 2024 11:57 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Legacy miter kit
>
>
>
> Has anyone used the miter kit offered by Legacy?  I ran across pictures in
> the owners manual showing it as an option, but can't find any instruction
> material for it. It's no longer available, but it doesn't look that hard to
> make if it works like I think it works. I guess it was designed with
> picture framing in mind.  It's hard to imagine a router bit making a decent
> miter cut in 1" thick material partly because it looks like one end would
> be climb cut into the grain, a big no-no.  Multi-pass cutting a increasing
> depths would be possible, but that leads to steps however minute they may
> be.
>
>
>
> I am getting ready to cut box joints into a sizable box for a Stanley 55
> plane.  I used FreeCAD to make a parametric drawing so other boxes for the
> 45 and 46 planes can be automatically drawn by updating the inside
> dimensions of the box. Pretty slick.
>
>
>
> Adding the capability of mitering frames brings a whole new dimension to
> parametric design  Love these machines!  Combined with the innate
> capability to make short moldings with ornamental features could lead to
> some interesting stuff.
>
>
>
> DanK
>
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Re: Aug. 31 bone turning.

2024-09-02 Thread Tim Ziegler
lol
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 9:39 PM  wrote:

> Holy crap 3 of us do you believe that
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond
> *Sent:* Monday, 2 September 2024 11:56 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Aug. 31 bone turning.
>
>
>
> LOL, I am in the same situation.
>
>
>
> My son has his Harley all apart which is curbing my sawdust creation,
> hopefully not much longer.
>
>
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Sep 1, 2024, at 7:56 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> That is amazing you won’t believe this but while I’m not in my shop doing
> other things my son is in there working on his motorcycle too getting it
> roadworthy for registration amazing right what a coincidence
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, 1 September 2024 11:10 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Aug. 31 bone turning.
>
>
>
> Hey Bill
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> For me the problems this summer were both time, and my son who started
> re-building his motorcycle. There is not enough room for both of us to work
> at the same time in my shop.  And that, his bike is in parts, I dont want
> to put saw dust in the air, which will stick to all the oiled machine
> parts, he is trying to put back together.
>
> this weekend Is mine! (more or less?) My plans are to play and clean the
> shop as much as I can.  I  have to hurry up, now. Or life will get in the
> way, again soon. ;-)
>
>
>
> Take care.
>
> talk to you more latter.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, September 1, 2024 at 05:11:32 AM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I hear you about no shop time ☹ and what can you say about the turning
> but great as you always do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, 1 September 2024 9:53 AM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* Aug. 31 bone turning.
>
>
>
> I was asked why I have not been turning bone as late?
>
> The answer is, this summer has been very busy for me.
>
> sadly, there just has not been a lot of free time in the shop.
>
> Today, I found that time. ;-)
>
>
>
> Let me know what you think?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: Legacy miter kit

2024-09-02 Thread Tim Ziegler
Hey Dan,


I am not sure about the mitering process, but I am sure others have at
least experienced something with it.
I agree the use of a router bit to do the actual cut does not seem
permissible to me.
I would be like you have to do some research on the subject.
Maybe Tim K, Curt, Bill, Mac or Joe, maybe have dabbled with it?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 8:56 PM cdkr...@gmail.com  wrote:

> Has anyone used the miter kit offered by Legacy?  I ran across pictures in
> the owners manual showing it as an option, but can't find any instruction
> material for it. It's no longer available, but it doesn't look that hard to
> make if it works like I think it works. I guess it was designed with
> picture framing in mind.  It's hard to imagine a router bit making a decent
> miter cut in 1" thick material partly because it looks like one end would
> be climb cut into the grain, a big no-no.  Multi-pass cutting a increasing
> depths would be possible, but that leads to steps however minute they may
> be.
>
> I am getting ready to cut box joints into a sizable box for a Stanley 55
> plane.  I used FreeCAD to make a parametric drawing so other boxes for the
> 45 and 46 planes can be automatically drawn by updating the inside
> dimensions of the box. Pretty slick.
>
> Adding the capability of mitering frames brings a whole new dimension to
> parametric design  Love these machines!  Combined with the innate
> capability to make short moldings with ornamental features could lead to
> some interesting stuff.
>
> DanK
>
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Re: Aug. 31 bone turning.

2024-09-02 Thread Tim Ziegler
not you too Jeff?
This sounds like a major pandemic here.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
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320-294-5798 shop
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On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 8:55 PM Jeff Richmond  wrote:

> LOL, I am in the same situation.
>
> My son has his Harley all apart which is curbing my sawdust creation,
> hopefully not much longer.
>
> Jeff from Connecticut
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 1, 2024, at 7:56 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:
>
> 
>
> That is amazing you won’t believe this but while I’m not in my shop doing
> other things my son is in there working on his motorcycle too getting it
> roadworthy for registration amazing right what a coincidence
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, 1 September 2024 11:10 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Aug. 31 bone turning.
>
>
>
> Hey Bill
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> For me the problems this summer were both time, and my son who started
> re-building his motorcycle. There is not enough room for both of us to work
> at the same time in my shop.  And that, his bike is in parts, I dont want
> to put saw dust in the air, which will stick to all the oiled machine
> parts, he is trying to put back together.
>
> this weekend Is mine! (more or less?) My plans are to play and clean the
> shop as much as I can.  I  have to hurry up, now. Or life will get in the
> way, again soon. ;-)
>
>
>
> Take care.
>
> talk to you more latter.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, September 1, 2024 at 05:11:32 AM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I hear you about no shop time ☹ and what can you say about the turning
> but great as you always do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, 1 September 2024 9:53 AM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* Aug. 31 bone turning.
>
>
>
> I was asked why I have not been turning bone as late?
>
> The answer is, this summer has been very busy for me.
>
> sadly, there just has not been a lot of free time in the shop.
>
> Today, I found that time. ;-)
>
>
>
> Let me know what you think?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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Re: Aug. 31 bone turning.

2024-09-02 Thread Tim Ziegler
Lol you guys, thats funny. I don't let grease and gas get in my shop, but
sure have had my Son
in the garage changing oil and other mechanical process on his vehicles.
Separate building.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
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320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 7:04 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Darn Kids!
> Life is more strange, then fiction. ;-) go figure... ;-p
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, September 1, 2024 at 07:56:17 PM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
> That is amazing you won’t believe this but while I’m not in my shop doing
> other things my son is in there working on his motorcycle too getting it
> roadworthy for registration amazing right what a coincidence
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, 1 September 2024 11:10 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Aug. 31 bone turning.
>
>
>
> Hey Bill
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> For me the problems this summer were both time, and my son who started
> re-building his motorcycle. There is not enough room for both of us to work
> at the same time in my shop.  And that, his bike is in parts, I dont want
> to put saw dust in the air, which will stick to all the oiled machine
> parts, he is trying to put back together.
>
> this weekend Is mine! (more or less?) My plans are to play and clean the
> shop as much as I can.  I  have to hurry up, now. Or life will get in the
> way, again soon. ;-)
>
>
>
> Take care.
>
> talk to you more latter.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, September 1, 2024 at 05:11:32 AM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I hear you about no shop time ☹ and what can you say about the turning
> but great as you always do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, 1 September 2024 9:53 AM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* Aug. 31 bone turning.
>
>
>
> I was asked why I have not been turning bone as late?
>
> The answer is, this summer has been very busy for me.
>
> sadly, there just has not been a lot of free time in the shop.
>
> Today, I found that time. ;-)
>
>
>
> Let me know what you think?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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RE: Legacy miter kit

2024-09-01 Thread bulkeley
After reading this again if you mean the revo framing kit then yes I have used 
it before 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of cdkr...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, 2 September 2024 11:57 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Legacy miter kit

 

Has anyone used the miter kit offered by Legacy?  I ran across pictures in the 
owners manual showing it as an option, but can't find any instruction material 
for it. It's no longer available, but it doesn't look that hard to make if it 
works like I think it works. I guess it was designed with picture framing in 
mind.  It's hard to imagine a router bit making a decent miter cut in 1" thick 
material partly because it looks like one end would be climb cut into the 
grain, a big no-no.  Multi-pass cutting a increasing depths would be possible, 
but that leads to steps however minute they may be.  

 

I am getting ready to cut box joints into a sizable box for a Stanley 55 plane. 
 I used FreeCAD to make a parametric drawing so other boxes for the 45 and 46 
planes can be automatically drawn by updating the inside dimensions of the box. 
Pretty slick.

 

Adding the capability of mitering frames brings a whole new dimension to 
parametric design  Love these machines!  Combined with the innate 
capability to make short moldings with ornamental features could lead to some 
interesting stuff.

 

DanK

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Re: Aug. 31 bone turning.

2024-09-01 Thread Tim Ziegler
A mans shop is his best friend . I would say something needs to change lol.

Kind Regards,

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Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
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On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 8:09 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hey Bill
>
> Thank you.
>
> For me the problems this summer were both time, and my son who started
> re-building his motorcycle. There is not enough room for both of us to work
> at the same time in my shop.  And that, his bike is in parts, I dont want
> to put saw dust in the air, which will stick to all the oiled machine
> parts, he is trying to put back together.
> this weekend Is mine! (more or less?) My plans are to play and clean the
> shop as much as I can.  I  have to hurry up, now. Or life will get in the
> way, again soon. ;-)
>
> Take care.
> talk to you more latter.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, September 1, 2024 at 05:11:32 AM EDT, 
> wrote:
>
>
> I hear you about no shop time ☹ and what can you say about the turning
> but great as you always do
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, 1 September 2024 9:53 AM
> *To:* Legacy ornamental mills 
> *Subject:* Aug. 31 bone turning.
>
>
>
> I was asked why I have not been turning bone as late?
>
> The answer is, this summer has been very busy for me.
>
> sadly, there just has not been a lot of free time in the shop.
>
> Today, I found that time. ;-)
>
>
>
> Let me know what you think?
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
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RE: Aug. 31 bone turning.

2024-09-01 Thread bulkeley
Holy crap 3 of us do you believe that 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Monday, 2 September 2024 11:56 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Aug. 31 bone turning.

 

LOL, I am in the same situation. 

 

My son has his Harley all apart which is curbing my sawdust creation, hopefully 
not much longer.

 

Jeff from Connecticut 

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 1, 2024, at 7:56 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  wrote:



That is amazing you won’t believe this but while I’m not in my shop doing other 
things my son is in there working on his motorcycle too getting it roadworthy 
for registration amazing right what a coincidence

 

Bill 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Sunday, 1 September 2024 11:10 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Aug. 31 bone turning.

 

Hey Bill

 

Thank you.

 

For me the problems this summer were both time, and my son who started 
re-building his motorcycle. There is not enough room for both of us to work at 
the same time in my shop.  And that, his bike is in parts, I dont want to put 
saw dust in the air, which will stick to all the oiled machine parts, he is 
trying to put back together.

this weekend Is mine! (more or less?) My plans are to play and clean the shop 
as much as I can.  I  have to hurry up, now. Or life will get in the way, again 
soon. ;-)

 

Take care.

talk to you more latter.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, September 1, 2024 at 05:11:32 AM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

I hear you about no shop time ☹ and what can you say about the turning but 
great as you always do

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Sunday, 1 September 2024 9:53 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Aug. 31 bone turning.

 

I was asked why I have not been turning bone as late?  

The answer is, this summer has been very busy for me. 

sadly, there just has not been a lot of free time in the shop.

Today, I found that time. ;-)

 

Let me know what you think? 

 

C.A.G.

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Re: Aug. 31 bone turning.

2024-09-01 Thread Jeff Richmond
LOL, I am in the same situation. My son has his Harley all apart which is curbing my sawdust creation, hopefully not much longer.Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 1, 2024, at 7:56 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote:That is amazing you won’t believe this but while I’m not in my shop doing other things my son is in there working on his motorcycle too getting it roadworthy for registration amazing right what a coincidence Bill  From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills  Sent: Sunday, 1 September 2024 11:10 PMTo: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Aug. 31 bone turning. Hey Bill Thank you. For me the problems this summer were both time, and my son who started re-building his motorcycle. There is not enough room for both of us to work at the same time in my shop.  And that, his bike is in parts, I dont want to put saw dust in the air, which will stick to all the oiled machine parts, he is trying to put back together.this weekend Is mine! (more or less?) My plans are to play and clean the shop as much as I can.  I  have to hurry up, now. Or life will get in the way, again soon. ;-) Take care.talk to you more latter. C.A.G. On Sunday, September 1, 2024 at 05:11:32 AM EDT, <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:   I hear you about no shop time ☹ and what can you say about the turning but great as you always do Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, 1 September 2024 9:53 AMTo: Legacy ornamental mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>Subject: Aug. 31 bone turning. I was asked why I have not been turning bone as late?  The answer is, this summer has been very busy for me. sadly, there just has not been a lot of free time in the shop.Today, I found that time. ;-) Let me know what you think?  C.A.G.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1606468956.1241996.1725148410026%40mail.yahoo.com.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000501dafc4e%24e7e03490%24b7a09db0%24%40mmnet.com.au.-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/1244333040.1288915.1725196185659%40mail.yahoo.com.



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Re: Aug. 31 bone turning.

2024-09-01 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Thank you Roger.I am getting better with this concept. But there is still a 
long way to go.Between the process of cutting the bone, making templates and 
finding out what is pleasing to the eye / details.It may take me a life time to 
get it all right. ;-)Thank you for the kind words.
Have a good night.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, September 1, 2024 at 08:50:56 PM EDT, Ccm Ccm 
 wrote:  
 
 Nice work 

On Saturday, August 31, 2024, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

I was asked why I have not been turning bone as late?  The answer is, this 
summer has been very busy for me. sadly, there just has not been a lot of free 
time in the shop.Today, I found that time. ;-)
Let me know what you think? 
C.A.G.

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Re: Aug. 31 bone turning.

2024-09-01 Thread Ccm Ccm
Nice work

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legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I was asked why I have not been turning bone as late?
> The answer is, this summer has been very busy for me.
> sadly, there just has not been a lot of free time in the shop.
> Today, I found that time. ;-)
>
> Let me know what you think?
>
> C.A.G.
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RE: Aug. 31 bone turning.

2024-09-01 Thread bulkeley
Yea right

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Monday, 2 September 2024 10:05 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Aug. 31 bone turning.

 

Darn Kids! 

Life is more strange, then fiction. ;-) go figure... ;-p

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, September 1, 2024 at 07:56:17 PM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

That is amazing you won’t believe this but while I’m not in my shop doing other 
things my son is in there working on his motorcycle too getting it roadworthy 
for registration amazing right what a coincidence

 

Bill 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
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Sent: Sunday, 1 September 2024 11:10 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
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Subject: Re: Aug. 31 bone turning.

 

Hey Bill

 

Thank you.

 

For me the problems this summer were both time, and my son who started 
re-building his motorcycle. There is not enough room for both of us to work at 
the same time in my shop.  And that, his bike is in parts, I dont want to put 
saw dust in the air, which will stick to all the oiled machine parts, he is 
trying to put back together.

this weekend Is mine! (more or less?) My plans are to play and clean the shop 
as much as I can.  I  have to hurry up, now. Or life will get in the way, again 
soon. ;-)

 

Take care.

talk to you more latter.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, September 1, 2024 at 05:11:32 AM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

I hear you about no shop time ☹ and what can you say about the turning but 
great as you always do

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
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To: Legacy ornamental mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Aug. 31 bone turning.

 

I was asked why I have not been turning bone as late?  

The answer is, this summer has been very busy for me. 

sadly, there just has not been a lot of free time in the shop.

Today, I found that time. ;-)

 

Let me know what you think? 

 

C.A.G.

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Re: Aug. 31 bone turning.

2024-09-01 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Darn Kids! Life is more strange, then fiction. ;-) go figure... ;-p
C.A.G.
On Sunday, September 1, 2024 at 07:56:17 PM EDT,  
wrote:  
 
 
That is amazing you won’t believe this but while I’m not in my shop doing other 
things my son is in there working on his motorcycle too getting it roadworthy 
for registration amazing right what a coincidence

  

Bill 

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Sunday, 1 September 2024 11:10 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Aug. 31 bone turning.

  

Hey Bill

  

Thank you.

  

For me the problems this summer were both time, and my son who started 
re-building his motorcycle. There is not enough room for both of us to work at 
the same time in my shop.  And that, his bike is in parts, I dont want to put 
saw dust in the air, which will stick to all the oiled machine parts, he is 
trying to put back together.

this weekend Is mine! (more or less?) My plans are to play and clean the shop 
as much as I can.  I  have to hurry up, now. Or life will get in the way, again 
soon. ;-)

  

Take care.

talk to you more latter.

  

C.A.G.

  

On Sunday, September 1, 2024 at 05:11:32 AM EDT,  wrote: 

  

  

I hear you about no shop time ☹ and what can you say about the turning but 
great as you always do

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Sunday, 1 September 2024 9:53 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: Aug. 31 bone turning.

 

I was asked why I have not been turning bone as late?  

The answer is, this summer has been very busy for me. 

sadly, there just has not been a lot of free time in the shop.

Today, I found that time. ;-)

 

Let me know what you think? 

 

C.A.G.

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RE: Aug. 31 bone turning.

2024-09-01 Thread bulkeley
That is amazing you won’t believe this but while I’m not in my shop doing other 
things my son is in there working on his motorcycle too getting it roadworthy 
for registration amazing right what a coincidence

 

Bill 

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Sunday, 1 September 2024 11:10 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Aug. 31 bone turning.

 

Hey Bill

 

Thank you.

 

For me the problems this summer were both time, and my son who started 
re-building his motorcycle. There is not enough room for both of us to work at 
the same time in my shop.  And that, his bike is in parts, I dont want to put 
saw dust in the air, which will stick to all the oiled machine parts, he is 
trying to put back together.

this weekend Is mine! (more or less?) My plans are to play and clean the shop 
as much as I can.  I  have to hurry up, now. Or life will get in the way, again 
soon. ;-)

 

Take care.

talk to you more latter.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Sunday, September 1, 2024 at 05:11:32 AM EDT, mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: 

 

 

I hear you about no shop time ☹ and what can you say about the turning but 
great as you always do

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
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Sent: Sunday, 1 September 2024 9:53 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Aug. 31 bone turning.

 

I was asked why I have not been turning bone as late?  

The answer is, this summer has been very busy for me. 

sadly, there just has not been a lot of free time in the shop.

Today, I found that time. ;-)

 

Let me know what you think? 

 

C.A.G.

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Re: Aug. 31 bone turning.

2024-09-01 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Hey Bill
Thank you.
For me the problems this summer were both time, and my son who started 
re-building his motorcycle. There is not enough room for both of us to work at 
the same time in my shop.  And that, his bike is in parts, I dont want to put 
saw dust in the air, which will stick to all the oiled machine parts, he is 
trying to put back together.this weekend Is mine! (more or less?) My plans are 
to play and clean the shop as much as I can.  I  have to hurry up, now. Or life 
will get in the way, again soon. ;-)
Take care.talk to you more latter.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, September 1, 2024 at 05:11:32 AM EDT,  
wrote:  
 
 
I hear you about no shop time ☹ and what can you say about the turning but 
great as you always do

  

Bill

  

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Sunday, 1 September 2024 9:53 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: Aug. 31 bone turning.

  

I was asked why I have not been turning bone as late?  

The answer is, this summer has been very busy for me. 

sadly, there just has not been a lot of free time in the shop.

Today, I found that time. ;-)

  

Let me know what you think? 

  

C.A.G.

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RE: Aug. 31 bone turning.

2024-09-01 Thread bulkeley
I hear you about no shop time ☹ and what can you say about the turning but 
great as you always do

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Sunday, 1 September 2024 9:53 AM
To: Legacy ornamental mills 
Subject: Aug. 31 bone turning.

 

I was asked why I have not been turning bone as late?  

The answer is, this summer has been very busy for me. 

sadly, there just has not been a lot of free time in the shop.

Today, I found that time. ;-)

 

Let me know what you think? 

 

C.A.G.

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Re: Aug. 31 bone turning.

2024-08-31 Thread Tim Ziegler
Looks good Curt.
Nice clean bone for sure.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 6:53 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I was asked why I have not been turning bone as late?
> The answer is, this summer has been very busy for me.
> sadly, there just has not been a lot of free time in the shop.
> Today, I found that time. ;-)
>
> Let me know what you think?
>
> C.A.G.
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Re: new custom mill

2024-08-31 Thread Tim Ziegler
for sure right.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 11:00 AM  wrote:

> Who wouldn’t want one of their magic mills I would also  like to ride
> around big game hunting in a new big flashy 4x4 too and fish from a marlin
> boat
>
> But I drive a 1985 Landcruiser hunting rabbits and fish from a 12ft
> aluminium boat and mill with an outdated legacy manual mill but it is nice
> to dream lol  I was born to be rich god just forgot the money lolol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, 31 August 2024 9:09 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: new custom mill
>
>
>
> We've talked about this before. As I said, it is progress.
>
> The company would probably have gone out of business if they did not get
> into cnc.
>
> I'd love one of their CnC machines to be honest.
>
> Weinig Moulders would not be where it is today if they did not change with
> the times.
>
> Honestly I think they did what they had to do.
>
> Look at the horse and buggie compared to Cars and Trucks today.
>
> Sorry we are blessed to have the machines we do and if they keep selling
> when one guy
>
> is done with it, they then can continue to pass on the legacy of the
> LEGACY.
>
> Just my thoughts and 3 cents worth.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 11:45 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
> Mills  wrote:
>
> $80.000 is close to what I paid for my home.  "MAN" the New CNC's are
> priced to high for me.
>
>
>
> I wish Legacy luck, but I still think they were foolish , throwing the
> baby out with the bath water. (so to speak) The machines that they made in
> the past, are worth something! but As they see it ,Its all about the money,
> Selling an $80.000 machine is far better then selling a $3.000 one. (even
> though they sold thousands of manual machine.)
>
> I could be wrong, but I think that there could have been another way.
> (just putting my two cense worth of it, out there for all to see .) ;-)
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 11:44:18 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> i know right. uda!
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 10:35 PM  wrote:
>
> Yea what it would be to be able to spend that sort of money without a
> problem
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, 31 August 2024 9:05 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: new custom mill
>
>
>
> I was guessing some where around that figure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 9:39 AM 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental
> Mills  wrote:
>
> ok, looked it up on the Legacy website... BASIC! machine price, $80,000...
> 15" diameter by 72" capacity between centers... auto tool changer... and
> all the other bells and whistles you would expect for a machine at that
> price level... I might guess that they are on a made-to-order status
>
> On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 9:31:13 AM UTC-4 finu...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Interesting... and quite the machine... a bit surprised that Legacy is
> showing some custom, machine fabrication work, that the client they made
> the machine for, requested... I would have thought that the client would
> have wanted that info kept propritory to their specific use... much like
> the so-called 40 ft. Legacy machine that they made quite a number of years
> ago(or at least that is what I heard!... LOL!)... and what anyone would use
> a 40ft Legacy for is al

Re: new custom mill

2024-08-31 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yeah I get it.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 7:59 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello Tim.
>
> I'm taking one of those penny's back. (so to speak.)  ;-)
>
> I agree Change is part of life. And I  think Legacy going CNC was a good
> thing.
>
> My problem is and was. There is no loyalty to there old customer's.
> Everything is on file, there Lasers could easily cut out and make old parts
> if needed.YES your buggy whip / change of times is understood all to
> clearly.   Its just the Divorce and alienation (old owners vs new CNC)
> that hurts.
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, August 31, 2024 at 07:09:01 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> We've talked about this before. As I said, it is progress.
> The company would probably have gone out of business if they did not get
> into cnc.
> I'd love one of their CnC machines to be honest.
> Weinig Moulders would not be where it is today if they did not change with
> the times.
> Honestly I think they did what they had to do.
> Look at the horse and buggie compared to Cars and Trucks today.
> Sorry we are blessed to have the machines we do and if they keep selling
> when one guy
> is done with it, they then can continue to pass on the legacy of the
> LEGACY.
> Just my thoughts and 3 cents worth.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 11:45 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
>  wrote:
>
> $80.000 is close to what I paid for my home.  "MAN" the New CNC's are
> priced to high for me.
>
> I wish Legacy luck, but I still think they were foolish , throwing the
> baby out with the bath water. (so to speak) The machines that they made in
> the past, are worth something! but As they see it ,Its all about the money,
> Selling an $80.000 machine is far better then selling a $3.000 one. (even
> though they sold thousands of manual machine.)
> I could be wrong, but I think that there could have been another way.
> (just putting my two cense worth of it, out there for all to see .) ;-)
> C.A.G.
> On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 11:44:18 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> i know right. uda!
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 10:35 PM  wrote:
>
> Yea what it would be to be able to spend that sort of money without a
> problem
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, 31 August 2024 9:05 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: new custom mill
>
>
>
> I was guessing some where around that figure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 9:39 AM 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental
> Mills  wrote:
>
> ok, looked it up on the Legacy website... BASIC! machine price, $80,000...
> 15" diameter by 72" capacity between centers... auto tool changer... and
> all the other bells and whistles you would expect for a machine at that
> price level... I might guess that they are on a made-to-order status
>
> On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 9:31:13 AM UTC-4 finu...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Interesting... and quite the machine... a bit surprised that Legacy is
> showing some custom, machine fabrication work, that the client they made
> the machine for, requested... I would have thought that the client would
> have wanted that info kept propritory to their specific use... much like
> the so-called 40 ft. Legacy machine that they made quite a number of years
> ago(or at least that is what I heard!... LOL!)... and what anyone would use
> a 40ft Legacy for is also a bit of a mystery... and it seems Legacy is not
> letting that info out!... also, what does a machine, like what they showed
> in the video, cost in its basic form?
&g

Re: Introducing Oyo Lito to the group

2024-08-31 Thread Ken and Diana
Welcome Oyo, enjoy the group .
Ken

On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 6:54 PM Tim Ziegler  wrote:

> Welcome Oyo,
>
> A wealth of knowledge can come from this group. Stick with us and chime in
> at every opportunity.
>
> Look forward to seeing what you can create. What parts are you missing?
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Tim J Ziegler
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> Ziegler WoodWork and Specialty
> 14171 160th Ave, Foreston, MN 56330
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2024, 7:29 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>- Oyo Lito
>>- From:oa4...@gmail.com
>>
>>Sat, Aug 31 at 2:08 AM
>>
>>Hi Curt, sorry for the late reply. I've been so busy with work
>>lately. My intro message is;
>>
>>Hello all, I'm Oliver the type of wood working I do is carpentry
>>pertaining to the construction of home ie framing, siding, decks, 
>> patios...
>>I've recently purchased a 1500 LOM in really good shape from what I can
>>tell so far, other than not having a router attachment plate and missing
>>one half of the lead screws nut. I'm so excited about the using this
>>machine that I feel a world of creative capabilities has just opened up 
>> for
>>me.
>>
>>The other equipment I own are pretty common jobsite table saw, chop
>>saw, skill saw, compressor... standard stuff really
>>
>>Thank you all in advance for welcoming me to this group as I'm eager
>>to learn and meet yall.
>>
>>
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Re: Introducing Oyo Lito to the group

2024-08-31 Thread Tim Ziegler
Welcome Oyo,

A wealth of knowledge can come from this group. Stick with us and chime in
at every opportunity.

Look forward to seeing what you can create. What parts are you missing?


Kind regards,

Tim J Ziegler
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
Ziegler WoodWork and Specialty
14171 160th Ave, Foreston, MN 56330


On Sat, Aug 31, 2024, 7:29 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
>- Oyo Lito
>- From:oa4...@gmail.com
>
>Sat, Aug 31 at 2:08 AM
>
>Hi Curt, sorry for the late reply. I've been so busy with work lately.
>My intro message is;
>
>Hello all, I'm Oliver the type of wood working I do is carpentry
>pertaining to the construction of home ie framing, siding, decks, patios...
>I've recently purchased a 1500 LOM in really good shape from what I can
>tell so far, other than not having a router attachment plate and missing
>one half of the lead screws nut. I'm so excited about the using this
>machine that I feel a world of creative capabilities has just opened up for
>me.
>
>The other equipment I own are pretty common jobsite table saw, chop
>saw, skill saw, compressor... standard stuff really
>
>Thank you all in advance for welcoming me to this group as I'm eager
>to learn and meet yall.
>
>
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RE: new custom mill

2024-08-31 Thread bulkeley
Who wouldn’t want one of their magic mills I would also  like to ride around 
big game hunting in a new big flashy 4x4 too and fish from a marlin boat 

But I drive a 1985 Landcruiser hunting rabbits and fish from a 12ft aluminium 
boat and mill with an outdated legacy manual mill but it is nice to dream lol  
I was born to be rich god just forgot the money lolol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, 31 August 2024 9:09 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new custom mill

 

We've talked about this before. As I said, it is progress. 

The company would probably have gone out of business if they did not get into 
cnc. 

I'd love one of their CnC machines to be honest.

Weinig Moulders would not be where it is today if they did not change with the 
times. 

Honestly I think they did what they had to do. 

Look at the horse and buggie compared to Cars and Trucks today. 

Sorry we are blessed to have the machines we do and if they keep selling when 
one guy 

is done with it, they then can continue to pass on the legacy of the LEGACY. 

Just my thoughts and 3 cents worth. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 11:45 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

$80.000 is close to what I paid for my home.  "MAN" the New CNC's are priced to 
high for me.

 

I wish Legacy luck, but I still think they were foolish , throwing the baby out 
with the bath water. (so to speak) The machines that they made in the past, are 
worth something! but As they see it ,Its all about the money, Selling an 
$80.000 machine is far better then selling a $3.000 one. (even though they sold 
thousands of manual machine.) 

I could be wrong, but I think that there could have been another way. (just 
putting my two cense worth of it, out there for all to see .) ;-)

C.A.G.

On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 11:44:18 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

i know right. uda!


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 10:35 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Yea what it would be to be able to spend that sort of money without a problem 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, 31 August 2024 9:05 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: new custom mill

 

I was guessing some where around that figure. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 9:39 AM 'finu...@aol.com <mailto:finu...@aol.com> ' via 
Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

ok, looked it up on the Legacy website... BASIC! machine price, $80,000... 15" 
diameter by 72" capacity between centers... auto tool changer... and all the 
other bells and whistles you would expect for a machine at that price level... 
I might guess that they are on a made-to-order status

On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 9:31:13 AM UTC-4 finu...@aol.com 
<mailto:finu...@aol.com>  wrote:

Interesting... and quite the machine... a bit surprised that Legacy is showing 
some custom, machine fabrication work, that the client they made the machine 
for, requested... I would have thought that the client would have wanted that 
info kept propritory to their specific use... much like the so-called 40 ft. 
Legacy machine that they made quite a number of years ago(or at least that is 
what I heard!... LOL!)... and what anyone would use a 40ft Legacy for is also a 
bit of a mystery... and it seems Legacy is not letting that info out!... also, 
what does a machine, like what they showed in the video, cost in its basic form?

On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 8:41:14 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

Wow! that's Neat !  

 

I wonder how much those table mountings cost? those just might be able to use 
on the manual machines as well.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

 

On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 07:06:54 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjz...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Yeah I saw that the other day. Pretty impressive. for sure. 

Thanks for sharing with the group Bill. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser W

Re: new custom mill

2024-08-31 Thread cdkr...@gmail.com
Every Amish community I know about has a carriage wheel maker. They make a 
good living servicing the carriages used by the community.  Traditional old 
skills are used because they are efficient and cost effective.  
I'm with Curt about loyalty to "old" customers. Trees that abandon their 
roots have limited life expediencies. I have similar thoughts about Fine 
Woodworking magazine.  The loyalty of charter subscribers (since 1975) is 
noteworthy and it seems the least the publisher could do is reward this 
loyalty with a subscription to their web material. I guess if you pay 
enough money you can have both. So, perhaps there is a small business 
opportunity to be arranged.
DanK 

On Saturday, August 31, 2024 at 8:59:21 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

> Hello Tim.
>
> I'm taking one of those penny's back. (so to speak.)  ;-)
>
> I agree Change is part of life. And I  think Legacy going CNC was a good 
> thing.
>
> My problem is and was. There is no loyalty to there old customer's. 
> Everything is on file, there Lasers could easily cut out and make old parts 
> if needed.YES your buggy whip / change of times is understood all to 
> clearly.   Its just the Divorce and alienation (old owners vs new CNC)  
> that hurts.  
>
> C.A.G.
>
> On Saturday, August 31, 2024 at 07:09:01 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> We've talked about this before. As I said, it is progress. 
> The company would probably have gone out of business if they did not get 
> into cnc. 
> I'd love one of their CnC machines to be honest.
> Weinig Moulders would not be where it is today if they did not change with 
> the times. 
> Honestly I think they did what they had to do. 
> Look at the horse and buggie compared to Cars and Trucks today. 
> Sorry we are blessed to have the machines we do and if they keep selling 
> when one guy 
> is done with it, they then can continue to pass on the legacy of the 
> LEGACY. 
> Just my thoughts and 3 cents worth. 
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 11:45 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>  wrote:
>
> $80.000 is close to what I paid for my home.  "MAN" the New CNC's are 
> priced to high for me.
>
> I wish Legacy luck, but I still think they were foolish , throwing the 
> baby out with the bath water. (so to speak) The machines that they made in 
> the past, are worth something! but As they see it ,Its all about the money, 
> Selling an $80.000 machine is far better then selling a $3.000 one. (even 
> though they sold thousands of manual machine.) 
> I could be wrong, but I think that there could have been another way. 
> (just putting my two cense worth of it, out there for all to see .) ;-)
> C.A.G.
> On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 11:44:18 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> i know right. uda!
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 10:35 PM  wrote:
>
> Yea what it would be to be able to spend that sort of money without a 
> problem 
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, 31 August 2024 9:05 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: new custom mill
>
>  
>
> I was guessing some where around that figure. 
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>  
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>  
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>  
>
>  
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 9:39 AM 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental 
> Mills  wrote:
>
> ok, looked it up on the Legacy website... BASIC! machine price, $80,000... 
> 15" diameter by 72" capacity between centers... auto tool changer... and 
> all the other bells and whistles you would expect for a machine at that 
> price level... I might guess that they are on a made-to-order status
>
> On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 9:31:13 AM UTC-4 finu...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Interesting... and quite the machine... a bit surprised that Legacy is 
> showing some

Re: new custom mill

2024-08-31 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Hello Tim.
I'm taking one of those penny's back. (so to speak.)  ;-)
I agree Change is part of life. And I  think Legacy going CNC was a good thing.
My problem is and was. There is no loyalty to there old customer's. Everything 
is on file, there Lasers could easily cut out and make old parts if needed.    
YES your buggy whip / change of times is understood all to clearly.   Its just 
the Divorce and alienation (old owners vs new CNC)  that hurts.  
C.A.G.
On Saturday, August 31, 2024 at 07:09:01 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 We've talked about this before. As I said, it is progress. The company would 
probably have gone out of business if they did not get into cnc. I'd love one 
of their CnC machines to be honest.
Weinig Moulders would not be where it is today if they did not change with the 
times. Honestly I think they did what they had to do. Look at the horse and 
buggie compared to Cars and Trucks today. Sorry we are blessed to have the 
machines we do and if they keep selling when one guy is done with it, they then 
can continue to pass on the legacy of the LEGACY. Just my thoughts and 3 cents 
worth. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 11:45 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:

 $80.000 is close to what I paid for my home.  "MAN" the New CNC's are priced 
to high for me.
I wish Legacy luck, but I still think they were foolish , throwing the baby out 
with the bath water. (so to speak) The machines that they made in the past, are 
worth something! but As they see it ,Its all about the money, Selling an 
$80.000 machine is far better then selling a $3.000 one. (even though they sold 
thousands of manual machine.) I could be wrong, but I think that there could 
have been another way. (just putting my two cense worth of it, out there for 
all to see .) ;-)C.A.G.On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 11:44:18 PM EDT, Tim 
Ziegler  wrote:  
 
 i know right. uda!
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 10:35 PM  wrote:


Yea what it would be to be able to spend that sort of money without a problem 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, 31 August 2024 9:05 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new custom mill

 

I was guessing some where around that figure. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 9:39 AM 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:


ok, looked it up on the Legacy website... BASIC! machine price, $80,000... 15" 
diameter by 72" capacity between centers... auto tool changer... and all the 
other bells and whistles you would expect for a machine at that price level... 
I might guess that they are on a made-to-order status

On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 9:31:13 AM UTC-4 finu...@aol.com wrote:


Interesting... and quite the machine... a bit surprised that Legacy is showing 
some custom, machine fabrication work, that the client they made the machine 
for, requested... I would have thought that the client would have wanted that 
info kept propritory to their specific use... much like the so-called 40 ft. 
Legacy machine that they made quite a number of years ago(or at least that is 
what I heard!... LOL!)... and what anyone would use a 40ft Legacy for is also a 
bit of a mystery... and it seems Legacy is not letting that info out!... also, 
what does a machine, like what they showed in the video, cost in its basic form?

On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 8:41:14 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:


Wow! that's Neat !  

 

I wonder how much those table mountings cost? those just might be able to use 
on the manual machines as well.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

 

On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 07:06:54 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler  
wrote: 

 

 

Yeah I saw that the other day. Pretty impressive. for sure. 

Thanks for sharing with the group Bill. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 2:38 AM  wrote:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKV8JWLhzFA  interesting

 

 

Bill

 

 

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Re: Introducing Oyo Lito to the group

2024-08-31 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Good morning everyone.
Oliver,  Again Welcome to the Group.
If you could send us some photo's of your machine, (over all photo's of your 
machine, so we can see the parts/missing, you will need.) Im sure someone in 
the group should be able to help you out making your machine back up to 
100%.The missing split nut and router plate should not be all that hard to 
make. But Legacy changed there designs on both of these parts a few times over 
the years. (that's why I suggest the photo's.)I personally own a 5/8x4 acme 
screw tap, so making your split nut will not  be a problem over all, all that 
will need to be done is to cut and tap and cut out the plastic ,adding the 
screw for you mounting bracket that will be needed to make this part work for 
you.(Note; the split nut you have should be the same part needed, so photo 
there part.) The router plate will either be Alum. or steel. each will have 
different mountings...
I wish you the Best of luck.Ask questions any time you want.  NO ONE know 
everything.  The way I look at it, Is, If you don't know, others might not know 
as well, In one Question we (the entire group 559 members) can learn something 
new, at the same time.  ;-)
Talk to you more later.
C.A.G.
On Saturday, August 31, 2024 at 08:29:15 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
Ornamental Mills  wrote:  
 

   - Oyo Lito    

   - From:oa4...@gmail.com   
Sat, Aug 31 at 2:08 AM   
Hi Curt, sorry for the late reply. I've been so busy with work lately. My intro 
message is;
   
Hello all, I'm Oliver the type of wood working I do is carpentry pertaining to 
the construction of home ie framing, siding, decks, patios... I've recently 
purchased a 1500 LOM in really good shape from what I can tell so far, other 
than not having a router attachment plate and missing one half of the lead 
screws nut. I'm so excited about the using this machine that I feel a world of 
creative capabilities has just opened up for me. 
   
The other equipment I own are pretty common jobsite table saw, chop saw, skill 
saw, compressor... standard stuff really   

   
Thank you all in advance for welcoming me to this group as I'm eager to learn 
and meet yall. 




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Re: Abridged summary of legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com - 13 updates in 4 topics

2024-08-31 Thread Tim Ziegler
yup for sure. It hopefully will surface or they do.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 12:54 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Not me!
>
> If "Down Under Bill", "ZZ Tim", or Curtis didn't buy it, it must have been
> NY Joe!
>
>
>
> I hope that Richard let the buyer know about The Group - and we'll see
> him/her pop up here with questions.
>
>
>
> I guess we'll soon find out.
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Aug 30, 2024 11:45 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Abridged summary of legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> - 13 updates in 4 topics
>
>
> I am innocent until proven guilty.
> Not I!
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> --
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 10:39 PM  wrote:
>
>> Ok which one of you guys grabbed it lol
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>> --
>> --
>>
>> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Richard Demerath
>> *Sent:* Saturday, 31 August 2024 8:56 AM
>> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Abridged summary of
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com - 13 updates in 4 topics
>>
>>
>>
>> I did sell it. Now to clean out the shop so I can play with the 1500!
>>
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Re: new custom mill

2024-08-31 Thread Tim Ziegler
We've talked about this before. As I said, it is progress.
The company would probably have gone out of business if they did not get
into cnc.
I'd love one of their CnC machines to be honest.
Weinig Moulders would not be where it is today if they did not change with
the times.
Honestly I think they did what they had to do.
Look at the horse and buggie compared to Cars and Trucks today.
Sorry we are blessed to have the machines we do and if they keep selling
when one guy
is done with it, they then can continue to pass on the legacy of the
LEGACY.
Just my thoughts and 3 cents worth.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 11:45 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> $80.000 is close to what I paid for my home.  "MAN" the New CNC's are
> priced to high for me.
>
> I wish Legacy luck, but I still think they were foolish , throwing the
> baby out with the bath water. (so to speak) The machines that they made in
> the past, are worth something! but As they see it ,Its all about the money,
> Selling an $80.000 machine is far better then selling a $3.000 one. (even
> though they sold thousands of manual machine.)
> I could be wrong, but I think that there could have been another way.
> (just putting my two cense worth of it, out there for all to see .) ;-)
> C.A.G.
> On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 11:44:18 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> i know right. uda!
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 10:35 PM  wrote:
>
> Yea what it would be to be able to spend that sort of money without a
> problem
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, 31 August 2024 9:05 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: new custom mill
>
>
>
> I was guessing some where around that figure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 9:39 AM 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental
> Mills  wrote:
>
> ok, looked it up on the Legacy website... BASIC! machine price, $80,000...
> 15" diameter by 72" capacity between centers... auto tool changer... and
> all the other bells and whistles you would expect for a machine at that
> price level... I might guess that they are on a made-to-order status
>
> On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 9:31:13 AM UTC-4 finu...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Interesting... and quite the machine... a bit surprised that Legacy is
> showing some custom, machine fabrication work, that the client they made
> the machine for, requested... I would have thought that the client would
> have wanted that info kept propritory to their specific use... much like
> the so-called 40 ft. Legacy machine that they made quite a number of years
> ago(or at least that is what I heard!... LOL!)... and what anyone would use
> a 40ft Legacy for is also a bit of a mystery... and it seems Legacy is not
> letting that info out!... also, what does a machine, like what they showed
> in the video, cost in its basic form?
>
> On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 8:41:14 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
> Wow! that's Neat !
>
>
>
> I wonder how much those table mountings cost? those just might be able to
> use on the manual machines as well.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 07:06:54 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Yeah I saw that the other day. Pretty impressive. for sure.
>
> Thanks for sharing with the group Bill.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 2:38 AM  wrote:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKV8JWLhzFA  interesting
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Abridged summary of legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com - 13 updates in 4 topics

2024-08-30 Thread M.W.Foscue
Not me!
If "Down Under Bill", "ZZ Tim", or Curtis didn't buy it, it must have been NY 
Joe!

I hope that Richard let the buyer know about The Group - and we'll see him/her 
pop up here with questions.

I guess we'll soon find out. 
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Aug 30, 2024 11:45 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: Abridged summary of legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com - 13 
updates in 4 topics

I am innocent until proven guilty. Not I! Kind Regards, 
Timothy J. Ziegler



On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 10:39 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au)> wrote:

Ok which one of you guys grabbed it lol
 
Bill
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
(mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)> On Behalf Of Richard Demerath
Sent: Saturday, 31 August 2024 8:56 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
(mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com)
Subject: Re: Abridged summary of legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
(mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) - 13 updates in 4 topics

I did sell it. Now to clean out the shop so I can play with the 1500!






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Re: new custom mill

2024-08-30 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 $80.000 is close to what I paid for my home.  "MAN" the New CNC's are priced 
to high for me.
I wish Legacy luck, but I still think they were foolish , throwing the baby out 
with the bath water. (so to speak) The machines that they made in the past, are 
worth something! but As they see it ,Its all about the money, Selling an 
$80.000 machine is far better then selling a $3.000 one. (even though they sold 
thousands of manual machine.) I could be wrong, but I think that there could 
have been another way. (just putting my two cense worth of it, out there for 
all to see .) ;-)C.A.G.On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 11:44:18 PM EDT, Tim 
Ziegler  wrote:  
 
 i know right. uda!
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 10:35 PM  wrote:


Yea what it would be to be able to spend that sort of money without a problem 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, 31 August 2024 9:05 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new custom mill

 

I was guessing some where around that figure. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 9:39 AM 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 wrote:


ok, looked it up on the Legacy website... BASIC! machine price, $80,000... 15" 
diameter by 72" capacity between centers... auto tool changer... and all the 
other bells and whistles you would expect for a machine at that price level... 
I might guess that they are on a made-to-order status

On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 9:31:13 AM UTC-4 finu...@aol.com wrote:


Interesting... and quite the machine... a bit surprised that Legacy is showing 
some custom, machine fabrication work, that the client they made the machine 
for, requested... I would have thought that the client would have wanted that 
info kept propritory to their specific use... much like the so-called 40 ft. 
Legacy machine that they made quite a number of years ago(or at least that is 
what I heard!... LOL!)... and what anyone would use a 40ft Legacy for is also a 
bit of a mystery... and it seems Legacy is not letting that info out!... also, 
what does a machine, like what they showed in the video, cost in its basic form?

On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 8:41:14 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:


Wow! that's Neat !  

 

I wonder how much those table mountings cost? those just might be able to use 
on the manual machines as well.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

 

On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 07:06:54 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler  
wrote: 

 

 

Yeah I saw that the other day. Pretty impressive. for sure. 

Thanks for sharing with the group Bill. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 2:38 AM  wrote:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKV8JWLhzFA  interesting

 

 

Bill

 

 

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Re: Abridged summary of legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com - 13 updates in 4 topics

2024-08-30 Thread Tim Ziegler
I am innocent until proven guilty.
Not I!
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 10:39 PM  wrote:

> Ok which one of you guys grabbed it lol
>
>
>
> Bill
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>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Richard Demerath
> *Sent:* Saturday, 31 August 2024 8:56 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Abridged summary of
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com - 13 updates in 4 topics
>
>
>
> I did sell it. Now to clean out the shop so I can play with the 1500!
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 10:07 AM Richard Demerath <
> dickdemerath6...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> LOM 500 for sale.  This is listed on FB Marketplace.  Looking to get $200
> OBO. Thanks
>
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>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 12:07 AM 
> wrote:
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> · FastTrack MK2 Sharpening System from MPower
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> LOM Model 500 for sale
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>
> Richard Demerath : Aug 29 09:13AM -0500
>
> I am presently downsizing and have a LOL model 500 for sale. Don’t know
> much about it but it appears to be used very little. Includes extra gears
> and measuring scales. This is an extra one I ...more
> <http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/msg/7bcfe6858fd5?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
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> : Aug 30 02:28PM +1000
>
> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
> Sent: Friday, 30 August 2024 2:07 PM
> To: 'legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com' <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> ...more
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>
> Curt George : Aug 30 04:29AM
>
> Hello RichardI wish you luck on your sale of the Legacy 500.Sadly the 500
> is not worth a lot of money, But like you pointed outthis machine looks in
> very good condition, and it looks like everything ...more
> <http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/msg/7de443519a57?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
>
> Back to top
> <#m_-5515741374152216232_m_-1850156463691904214_m_-3818818028626>
>
> FastTrack MK2 Sharpening System from MPower
> <http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/t/32e198e558de92d5?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
>
> Tim Ziegler : Aug 29 08:12AM -0500
>
> A little something that should benefit many of us.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+%0D%0AForeston+MN+56330?entry=gmail&source=g>
> Foreston MN 56330
> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+%0D%0AForeston+MN+56330?entry=gmail&source=g>
> ...more
> <http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/msg/4bd1d3bb99d3?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
>
> : Aug 30 09:03AM +1000
>
> Very interesting Tim but I own 2 worksharp systems a 2000 and a 3000 I
> even have one set up to work with a wolverine sharping system
>
>
>
> So I got most things I need to sharpen covered but that one ...more
> <http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/msg/6c1df64c89e4?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
>
> Tim Ziegler : Aug 29 10:00PM -0500
>
> hey Bill,
>
> I have muc

Re: new custom mill

2024-08-30 Thread Tim Ziegler
i know right. uda!
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 10:35 PM  wrote:

> Yea what it would be to be able to spend that sort of money without a
> problem
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Saturday, 31 August 2024 9:05 AM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: new custom mill
>
>
>
> I was guessing some where around that figure.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 9:39 AM 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental
> Mills  wrote:
>
> ok, looked it up on the Legacy website... BASIC! machine price, $80,000...
> 15" diameter by 72" capacity between centers... auto tool changer... and
> all the other bells and whistles you would expect for a machine at that
> price level... I might guess that they are on a made-to-order status
>
> On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 9:31:13 AM UTC-4 finu...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Interesting... and quite the machine... a bit surprised that Legacy is
> showing some custom, machine fabrication work, that the client they made
> the machine for, requested... I would have thought that the client would
> have wanted that info kept propritory to their specific use... much like
> the so-called 40 ft. Legacy machine that they made quite a number of years
> ago(or at least that is what I heard!... LOL!)... and what anyone would use
> a 40ft Legacy for is also a bit of a mystery... and it seems Legacy is not
> letting that info out!... also, what does a machine, like what they showed
> in the video, cost in its basic form?
>
> On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 8:41:14 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
> Wow! that's Neat !
>
>
>
> I wonder how much those table mountings cost? those just might be able to
> use on the manual machines as well.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
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>
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>
>
>
> On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 07:06:54 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Yeah I saw that the other day. Pretty impressive. for sure.
>
> Thanks for sharing with the group Bill.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 2:38 AM  wrote:
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKV8JWLhzFA  interesting
>
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> Bill
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RE: Abridged summary of legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com - 13 updates in 4 topics

2024-08-30 Thread bulkeley
Ok which one of you guys grabbed it lol

 

Bill

 

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Richard Demerath
Sent: Saturday, 31 August 2024 8:56 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Abridged summary of legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com - 13 
updates in 4 topics

 

I did sell it. Now to clean out the shop so I can play with the 1500!

 

On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 10:07 AM Richard Demerath mailto:dickdemerath6...@gmail.com> > wrote:

LOM 500 for sale.  This is listed on FB Marketplace.  Looking to get $200 OBO. 
Thanks

 

On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 12:07 AM mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:


 
<https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/legacy-ornamental-mills/topics>
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<https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email/#!overview>
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* LOM Model 500 for sale - 3 Updates 

* FastTrack MK2 Sharpening System from MPower - 4 Updates 

* Fw: Woodturning Newsletter - What's The Difference - 5 Updates 

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<http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/t/46520051ab2cc555?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
 LOM Model 500 for sale 


Richard Demerath mailto:dickdemerath6...@gmail.com> >: Aug 29 09:13AM -0500 

I am presently downsizing and have a LOL model 500 for sale. Don’t know
much about it but it appears to be used very little. Includes extra gears
and measuring scales. This is an extra one I  
<http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/msg/7bcfe6858fd5?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
 ...more 


mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> >: Aug 30 02:28PM +1000 

From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  
mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > 
Sent: Friday, 30 August 2024 2:07 PM
To: 'legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> ' 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >  
<http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/msg/7dcd6c2d57af?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
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Curt George mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com> >: Aug 30 
04:29AM 

Hello RichardI wish you luck on your sale of the Legacy 500.Sadly the 500 is 
not worth a lot of money, But like you pointed outthis machine looks in very 
good condition, and it looks like everything  
<http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/msg/7de443519a57?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
 ...more 

Back to top 

 
<http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/t/32e198e558de92d5?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
 FastTrack MK2 Sharpening System from MPower 


Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> >: Aug 29 
08:12AM -0500 

A little something that should benefit many of us.
 
Kind Regards,
 
Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave. 
<https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+%0D%0AForeston+MN+56330?entry=gmail&source=g>
 
Foreston MN 56330 
<https://www.google.com/maps/search/14171+160th+Ave.+%0D%0AForeston+MN+56330?entry=gmail&source=g>
 
 
<http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/msg/4bd1d3bb99d3?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
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mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> >: Aug 30 09:03AM +1000 

Very interesting Tim but I own 2 worksharp systems a 2000 and a 3000 I even 
have one set up to work with a wolverine sharping system
 

 
So I got most things I need to sharpen covered but that one  
<http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/msg/6c1df64c89e4?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
 ...more 


Tim Ziegler mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> >: Aug 29 
10:00PM -0500 

hey Bill,
 
I have much different equipment too. I put it out there for the occasional
use people.
Yeah my career was tooling tech for 20 of my Wood Craft Industries years so
of course  
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mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> >: Aug 30 01:57PM +1000 

Yes I guessed that was why you posted it
 

 
Bill
 

 
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
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mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Friday, 30  
<http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/msg/7c19c4abc265?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email>
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RE: new custom mill

2024-08-30 Thread bulkeley
Yea what it would be to be able to spend that sort of money without a problem 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, 31 August 2024 9:05 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new custom mill

 

I was guessing some where around that figure. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 9:39 AM 'finu...@aol.com <mailto:finu...@aol.com> ' via 
Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

ok, looked it up on the Legacy website... BASIC! machine price, $80,000... 15" 
diameter by 72" capacity between centers... auto tool changer... and all the 
other bells and whistles you would expect for a machine at that price level... 
I might guess that they are on a made-to-order status

On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 9:31:13 AM UTC-4 finu...@aol.com 
<mailto:finu...@aol.com>  wrote:

Interesting... and quite the machine... a bit surprised that Legacy is showing 
some custom, machine fabrication work, that the client they made the machine 
for, requested... I would have thought that the client would have wanted that 
info kept propritory to their specific use... much like the so-called 40 ft. 
Legacy machine that they made quite a number of years ago(or at least that is 
what I heard!... LOL!)... and what anyone would use a 40ft Legacy for is also a 
bit of a mystery... and it seems Legacy is not letting that info out!... also, 
what does a machine, like what they showed in the video, cost in its basic form?

On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 8:41:14 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

Wow! that's Neat !  

 

I wonder how much those table mountings cost? those just might be able to use 
on the manual machines as well.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

 

On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 07:06:54 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjz...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Yeah I saw that the other day. Pretty impressive. for sure. 

Thanks for sharing with the group Bill. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 2:38 AM mailto:bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKV8JWLhzFA  interesting

 

 

Bill

 

 

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Re: Abridged summary of legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com - 13 updates in 4 topics

2024-08-30 Thread Tim Ziegler
Wow, that was fast. I am so glad you were able to move it that fast.
Now yes get out and make some saw dust.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 10:24 PM Richard Demerath <
dickdemerath6...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I did sell it. Now to clean out the shop so I can play with the 1500!
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 10:07 AM Richard Demerath <
> dickdemerath6...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> LOM 500 for sale.  This is listed on FB Marketplace.  Looking to get $200
>> OBO. Thanks
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 12:07 AM <
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>>>- FastTrack MK2 Sharpening System from MPower
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>>>- Fw: Woodturning Newsletter - What's The Difference
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>>> LOM Model 500 for sale
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>>> Richard Demerath : Aug 29 09:13AM -0500
>>>
>>> I am presently downsizing and have a LOL model 500 for sale. Don’t know
>>> much about it but it appears to be used very little. Includes extra gears
>>> and measuring scales. This is an extra one I ...more
>>> 
>>> : Aug 30 02:28PM +1000
>>>
>>> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
>>> Sent: Friday, 30 August 2024 2:07 PM
>>> To: 'legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com' <
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>>> 
>>> Curt George : Aug 30 04:29AM
>>>
>>> Hello RichardI wish you luck on your sale of the Legacy 500.Sadly the
>>> 500 is not worth a lot of money, But like you pointed outthis machine looks
>>> in very good condition, and it looks like everything ...more
>>> 
>>> Back to top
>>> <#m_-2360056903473690675_m_-1850156463691904214_m_-3818818028626378992_digest_top>
>>> FastTrack MK2 Sharpening System from MPower
>>> 
>>> Tim Ziegler : Aug 29 08:12AM -0500
>>>
>>> A little something that should benefit many of us.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> 
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>> 
>>> ...more
>>> 
>>> : Aug 30 09:03AM +1000
>>>
>>> Very interesting Tim but I own 2 worksharp systems a 2000 and a 3000 I
>>> even have one set up to work with a wolverine sharping system
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So I got most things I need to sharpen covered but that one ...more
>>> 
>>> Tim Ziegler : Aug 29 10:00PM -0500
>>>
>>> hey Bill,
>>>
>>> I have much different equipment too. I put it out there for the
>>> occasional
>>> use people.
>>> Yeah my career was tooling tech for 20 of my Wood Craft Industries years
>>> so
>>> of course ...more
>>> 
>>> : Aug 30 01:57PM +1000
>>>
>>> Yes I guessed that was why you posted it
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>>> Sen

Re: Abridged summary of legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com - 13 updates in 4 topics

2024-08-30 Thread Tim Ziegler
Thanks for sharing Richard,

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 10:24 PM Richard Demerath <
dickdemerath6...@gmail.com> wrote:

> LOM 500 for sale.  This is listed on FB Marketplace.  Looking to get $200
> OBO. Thanks
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 12:07 AM 
> wrote:
>
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>> LOM Model 500 for sale
>> 
>> Richard Demerath : Aug 29 09:13AM -0500
>>
>> I am presently downsizing and have a LOL model 500 for sale. Don’t know
>> much about it but it appears to be used very little. Includes extra gears
>> and measuring scales. This is an extra one I ...more
>> 
>> : Aug 30 02:28PM +1000
>>
>> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
>> Sent: Friday, 30 August 2024 2:07 PM
>> To: 'legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com' <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> ...more
>> 
>> Curt George : Aug 30 04:29AM
>>
>> Hello RichardI wish you luck on your sale of the Legacy 500.Sadly the 500
>> is not worth a lot of money, But like you pointed outthis machine looks in
>> very good condition, and it looks like everything ...more
>> 
>> Back to top <#m_-3145482703625622580_m_-3818818028626378992_digest_top>
>> FastTrack MK2 Sharpening System from MPower
>> 
>> Tim Ziegler : Aug 29 08:12AM -0500
>>
>> A little something that should benefit many of us.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>> ...more
>> 
>> : Aug 30 09:03AM +1000
>>
>> Very interesting Tim but I own 2 worksharp systems a 2000 and a 3000 I
>> even have one set up to work with a wolverine sharping system
>>
>>
>>
>> So I got most things I need to sharpen covered but that one ...more
>> 
>> Tim Ziegler : Aug 29 10:00PM -0500
>>
>> hey Bill,
>>
>> I have much different equipment too. I put it out there for the occasional
>> use people.
>> Yeah my career was tooling tech for 20 of my Wood Craft Industries years
>> so
>> of course ...more
>> 
>> : Aug 30 01:57PM +1000
>>
>> Yes I guessed that was why you posted it
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Friday, 30 ...more
>> 
>> Back to top <#m_-3145482703625622580_m_-3818818028626378992_digest_top>
>> Fw: Woodturning Newsletter - What's The Difference
>> 
>> Ralph Thorne : Aug 26 11:35AM -0700
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I'm relatively new to the group and have been reading most of the posts.
>>
>> I've known Ron for

Re: Abridged summary of legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com - 13 updates in 4 topics

2024-08-30 Thread Richard Demerath
I did sell it. Now to clean out the shop so I can play with the 1500!

On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 10:07 AM Richard Demerath <
dickdemerath6...@gmail.com> wrote:

> LOM 500 for sale.  This is listed on FB Marketplace.  Looking to get $200
> OBO. Thanks
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 12:07 AM 
> wrote:
>
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>>Update
>>
>> LOM Model 500 for sale
>> 
>> Richard Demerath : Aug 29 09:13AM -0500
>>
>> I am presently downsizing and have a LOL model 500 for sale. Don’t know
>> much about it but it appears to be used very little. Includes extra gears
>> and measuring scales. This is an extra one I ...more
>> 
>> : Aug 30 02:28PM +1000
>>
>> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
>> Sent: Friday, 30 August 2024 2:07 PM
>> To: 'legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com' <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> ...more
>> 
>> Curt George : Aug 30 04:29AM
>>
>> Hello RichardI wish you luck on your sale of the Legacy 500.Sadly the 500
>> is not worth a lot of money, But like you pointed outthis machine looks in
>> very good condition, and it looks like everything ...more
>> 
>> Back to top <#m_-1850156463691904214_m_-3818818028626378992_digest_top>
>> FastTrack MK2 Sharpening System from MPower
>> 
>> Tim Ziegler : Aug 29 08:12AM -0500
>>
>> A little something that should benefit many of us.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> 
>> Foreston MN 56330
>> 
>> ...more
>> 
>> : Aug 30 09:03AM +1000
>>
>> Very interesting Tim but I own 2 worksharp systems a 2000 and a 3000 I
>> even have one set up to work with a wolverine sharping system
>>
>>
>>
>> So I got most things I need to sharpen covered but that one ...more
>> 
>> Tim Ziegler : Aug 29 10:00PM -0500
>>
>> hey Bill,
>>
>> I have much different equipment too. I put it out there for the occasional
>> use people.
>> Yeah my career was tooling tech for 20 of my Wood Craft Industries years
>> so
>> of course ...more
>> 
>> : Aug 30 01:57PM +1000
>>
>> Yes I guessed that was why you posted it
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
>> Sent: Friday, 30 ...more
>> 
>> Back to top <#m_-1850156463691904214_m_-3818818028626378992_digest_top>
>> Fw: Woodturning Newsletter - What's The Difference
>> 
>> Ralph Thorne : Aug 26 11:35AM -0700
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I'm relatively new to the group and have been reading most of the posts.
>>
>> I've known Ron for more than 30 years and spoke to him this morning. He
>> wanted me to extend his thanks for ...more
>> 

Re: Abridged summary of legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com - 13 updates in 4 topics

2024-08-30 Thread Richard Demerath
LOM 500 for sale.  This is listed on FB Marketplace.  Looking to get $200
OBO. Thanks

On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 12:07 AM 
wrote:

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>
> LOM Model 500 for sale
> 
> Richard Demerath : Aug 29 09:13AM -0500
>
> I am presently downsizing and have a LOL model 500 for sale. Don’t know
> much about it but it appears to be used very little. Includes extra gears
> and measuring scales. This is an extra one I ...more
> 
> : Aug 30 02:28PM +1000
>
> From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au 
> Sent: Friday, 30 August 2024 2:07 PM
> To: 'legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com' <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> ...more
> 
> Curt George : Aug 30 04:29AM
>
> Hello RichardI wish you luck on your sale of the Legacy 500.Sadly the 500
> is not worth a lot of money, But like you pointed outthis machine looks in
> very good condition, and it looks like everything ...more
> 
> Back to top <#m_-3818818028626378992_digest_top>
> FastTrack MK2 Sharpening System from MPower
> 
> Tim Ziegler : Aug 29 08:12AM -0500
>
> A little something that should benefit many of us.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> 
> Foreston MN 56330
> 
> ...more
> 
> : Aug 30 09:03AM +1000
>
> Very interesting Tim but I own 2 worksharp systems a 2000 and a 3000 I
> even have one set up to work with a wolverine sharping system
>
>
>
> So I got most things I need to sharpen covered but that one ...more
> 
> Tim Ziegler : Aug 29 10:00PM -0500
>
> hey Bill,
>
> I have much different equipment too. I put it out there for the occasional
> use people.
> Yeah my career was tooling tech for 20 of my Wood Craft Industries years so
> of course ...more
> 
> : Aug 30 01:57PM +1000
>
> Yes I guessed that was why you posted it
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
> Sent: Friday, 30 ...more
> 
> Back to top <#m_-3818818028626378992_digest_top>
> Fw: Woodturning Newsletter - What's The Difference
> 
> Ralph Thorne : Aug 26 11:35AM -0700
>
> Hello all,
>
> I'm relatively new to the group and have been reading most of the posts.
>
> I've known Ron for more than 30 years and spoke to him this morning. He
> wanted me to extend his thanks for ...more
> 
> Curt George : Aug 29 12:55PM
>
> Hello and Good morning Ralph.
> No I had no idea that Ron Brown owned a Legacy CNC.  And I am more
> impressed that you know him and talk to him on the
> phone. Relationships/Friends are becoming harder ...more
> 

Re: new custom mill

2024-08-30 Thread Tim Ziegler
yup I'm sure they asked and it was ok.
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 1:37 PM  wrote:

> Perhaps the customer was a legacy member maybe Tracy himself but whoever
> it is I would assume they need their permission to show it off
>
> Or maybe offered a couple of thousand bucks discount if they can who knows
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, 30 August 2024 11:31 PM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> *Subject:* Re: new custom mill
>
>
>
> Interesting... and quite the machine... a bit surprised that Legacy is
> showing some custom, machine fabrication work, that the client they made
> the machine for, requested... I would have thought that the client would
> have wanted that info kept propritory to their specific use... much like
> the so-called 40 ft. Legacy machine that they made quite a number of years
> ago(or at least that is what I heard!... LOL!)... and what anyone would use
> a 40ft Legacy for is also a bit of a mystery... and it seems Legacy is not
> letting that info out!... also, what does a machine, like what they showed
> in the video, cost in its basic form?
>
> On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 8:41:14 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
> Wow! that's Neat !
>
>
>
> I wonder how much those table mountings cost? those just might be able to
> use on the manual machines as well.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 07:06:54 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Yeah I saw that the other day. Pretty impressive. for sure.
>
> Thanks for sharing with the group Bill.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 2:38 AM  wrote:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKV8JWLhzFA  interesting
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: new custom mill

2024-08-30 Thread Tim Ziegler
yup good points Mac.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 1:19 PM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Like they sometimes say when buying a nice big 4x4 truck (our big SUV) -
>
> "If ya ask how great it is with gas mileage - then ya probably can't
> afford the truck!"
>
>
>
> So with that LOM - if you are concerned about the cost of those 3 mounts -
> don't bother asking how much the machine attached to them costs - you can't
> afford it!   LoL!!
>
>
>
> Have a Fun-filled and Safe Labor Day Weekend everybody!
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Aug 30, 2024 2:10 PM
> To: 
> Subject: RE: new custom mill
>
>
>
> I wondered that too curt
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, 30 August 2024 10:41 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: new custom mill
>
>
>
> Wow! that's Neat !
>
>
>
> I wonder how much those table mountings cost? those just might be able to
> use on the manual machines as well.
>
>
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 07:06:54 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Yeah I saw that the other day. Pretty impressive. for sure.
>
> Thanks for sharing with the group Bill.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
> Foreston MN 56330
>
>
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
>
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 2:38 AM  wrote:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKV8JWLhzFA  interesting
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
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Re: new custom mill

2024-08-30 Thread Tim Ziegler
I was guessing some where around that figure.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 9:39 AM 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental
Mills  wrote:

> ok, looked it up on the Legacy website... BASIC! machine price, $80,000...
> 15" diameter by 72" capacity between centers... auto tool changer... and
> all the other bells and whistles you would expect for a machine at that
> price level... I might guess that they are on a made-to-order status
>
> On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 9:31:13 AM UTC-4 finu...@aol.com wrote:
>
>> Interesting... and quite the machine... a bit surprised that Legacy is
>> showing some custom, machine fabrication work, that the client they made
>> the machine for, requested... I would have thought that the client would
>> have wanted that info kept propritory to their specific use... much like
>> the so-called 40 ft. Legacy machine that they made quite a number of years
>> ago(or at least that is what I heard!... LOL!)... and what anyone would use
>> a 40ft Legacy for is also a bit of a mystery... and it seems Legacy is not
>> letting that info out!... also, what does a machine, like what they showed
>> in the video, cost in its basic form?
>>
>> On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 8:41:14 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>>
>>> Wow! that's Neat !
>>>
>>> I wonder how much those table mountings cost? those just might be able
>>> to use on the manual machines as well.
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 07:06:54 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
>>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah I saw that the other day. Pretty impressive. for sure.
>>> Thanks for sharing with the group Bill.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 2:38 AM  wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKV8JWLhzFA  interesting
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: new custom mill

2024-08-30 Thread Tim Ziegler
yeah that would be cool to have those mounts for sure.

Kind Regards,

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On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 7:41 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Wow! that's Neat !
>
> I wonder how much those table mountings cost? those just might be able to
> use on the manual machines as well.
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 07:06:54 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Yeah I saw that the other day. Pretty impressive. for sure.
> Thanks for sharing with the group Bill.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 2:38 AM  wrote:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKV8JWLhzFA  interesting
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
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RE: new custom mill

2024-08-30 Thread M.W.Foscue
Technically, the machine most likely belongs to Legacy - until they turn it 
over/deliver it to customer. 
OtOH - if the customer had a "non-disclosure" clause in the purchase 
order/contract - that would change things. 
Like has been mentioned, Legacy would have to have a release - and was probably 
told in it what they could and could not say, show, do as regards the Mill.

Cheers!
Mac
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Sent: Aug 30, 2024 2:37 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: new custom mill

Perhaps the customer was a legacy member maybe Tracy himself but whoever it is 
I would assume they need their permission to show it off 
Or maybe offered a couple of thousand bucks discount if they can who knows
 
Bill
From: 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Friday, 30 August 2024 11:31 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: new custom mill

Interesting... and quite the machine... a bit surprised that Legacy is showing 
some custom, machine fabrication work, that the client they made the machine 
for, requested... I would have thought that the client would have wanted that 
info kept propritory to their specific use... much like the so-called 40 ft. 
Legacy machine that they made quite a number of years ago(or at least that is 
what I heard!... LOL!)... and what anyone would use a 40ft Legacy for is also a 
bit of a mystery... and it seems Legacy is not letting that info out!... also, 
what does a machine, like what they showed in the video, cost in its basic form?

On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 8:41:14 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

Wow! that's Neat !  

 

I wonder how much those table mountings cost? those just might be able to use 
on the manual machines as well.

 

C.A.G.

 On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 07:06:54 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjz...@gmail.com)> wrote: 



 




Yeah I saw that the other day. Pretty impressive. for sure. 
Thanks for sharing with the group Bill. 

 
Kind Regards,

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RE: new custom mill

2024-08-30 Thread bulkeley
Yep

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Saturday, 31 August 2024 4:19 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new custom mill

 

Like they sometimes say when buying a nice big 4x4 truck (our big SUV) -

"If ya ask how great it is with gas mileage - then ya probably can't afford the 
truck!"

 

So with that LOM - if you are concerned about the cost of those 3 mounts - 
don't bother asking how much the machine attached to them costs - you can't 
afford it!   LoL!!

 

Have a Fun-filled and Safe Labor Day Weekend everybody!

Mac

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Sent: Aug 30, 2024 2:10 PM
To: mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: RE: new custom mill

 

I wondered that too curt

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Friday, 30 August 2024 10:41 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: new custom mill

 

Wow! that's Neat !  

 

I wonder how much those table mountings cost? those just might be able to use 
on the manual machines as well.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

 

On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 07:06:54 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Yeah I saw that the other day. Pretty impressive. for sure. 

Thanks for sharing with the group Bill. 

 

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 2:38 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKV8JWLhzFA  interesting

 

 

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RE: new custom mill

2024-08-30 Thread bulkeley
Perhaps the customer was a legacy member maybe Tracy himself but whoever it is 
I would assume they need their permission to show it off 

Or maybe offered a couple of thousand bucks discount if they can who knows

 

Bill

 

From: 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Friday, 30 August 2024 11:31 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Subject: Re: new custom mill

 

Interesting... and quite the machine... a bit surprised that Legacy is showing 
some custom, machine fabrication work, that the client they made the machine 
for, requested... I would have thought that the client would have wanted that 
info kept propritory to their specific use... much like the so-called 40 ft. 
Legacy machine that they made quite a number of years ago(or at least that is 
what I heard!... LOL!)... and what anyone would use a 40ft Legacy for is also a 
bit of a mystery... and it seems Legacy is not letting that info out!... also, 
what does a machine, like what they showed in the video, cost in its basic form?

On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 8:41:14 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

Wow! that's Neat !  

 

I wonder how much those table mountings cost? those just might be able to use 
on the manual machines as well.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

 

On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 07:06:54 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler mailto:timjz...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Yeah I saw that the other day. Pretty impressive. for sure. 

Thanks for sharing with the group Bill. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798   shop

320-630-2243   cell

 

 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKV8JWLhzFA  interesting

 

 

Bill

 

 

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RE: new custom mill

2024-08-30 Thread M.W.Foscue
Like they sometimes say when buying a nice big 4x4 truck (our big SUV) -
"If ya ask how great it is with gas mileage - then ya probably can't afford the 
truck!"

So with that LOM - if you are concerned about the cost of those 3 mounts - 
don't bother asking how much the machine attached to them costs - you can't 
afford it!   LoL!!

Have a Fun-filled and Safe Labor Day Weekend everybody!
Mac
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To: 
Subject: RE: new custom mill

I wondered that too curt
 
Bill
 
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Friday, 30 August 2024 10:41 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new custom mill



Wow! that's Neat !  

 

I wonder how much those table mountings cost? those just might be able to use 
on the manual machines as well.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

 


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mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com)> wrote: 

 

 

Yeah I saw that the other day. Pretty impressive. for sure. 
Thanks for sharing with the group Bill. 

 
Kind Regards,
 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell




 


 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKV8JWLhzFA  interesting
 
 
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RE: new custom mill

2024-08-30 Thread bulkeley
I wondered that too curt

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
 
Sent: Friday, 30 August 2024 10:41 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new custom mill

 

Wow! that's Neat !  

 

I wonder how much those table mountings cost? those just might be able to use 
on the manual machines as well.

 

C.A.G.

 

 

 

 

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mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: 

 

 

Yeah I saw that the other day. Pretty impressive. for sure. 

Thanks for sharing with the group Bill. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKV8JWLhzFA  interesting

 

 

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Re: new custom mill

2024-08-30 Thread 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
ok, looked it up on the Legacy website... BASIC! machine price, $80,000... 
15" diameter by 72" capacity between centers... auto tool changer... and 
all the other bells and whistles you would expect for a machine at that 
price level... I might guess that they are on a made-to-order status

On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 9:31:13 AM UTC-4 finu...@aol.com wrote:

> Interesting... and quite the machine... a bit surprised that Legacy is 
> showing some custom, machine fabrication work, that the client they made 
> the machine for, requested... I would have thought that the client would 
> have wanted that info kept propritory to their specific use... much like 
> the so-called 40 ft. Legacy machine that they made quite a number of years 
> ago(or at least that is what I heard!... LOL!)... and what anyone would use 
> a 40ft Legacy for is also a bit of a mystery... and it seems Legacy is not 
> letting that info out!... also, what does a machine, like what they showed 
> in the video, cost in its basic form?
>
> On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 8:41:14 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:
>
>> Wow! that's Neat !  
>>
>> I wonder how much those table mountings cost? those just might be able to 
>> use on the manual machines as well.
>>
>> C.A.G.
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 07:06:54 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> Yeah I saw that the other day. Pretty impressive. for sure. 
>> Thanks for sharing with the group Bill. 
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 2:38 AM  wrote:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKV8JWLhzFA  interesting
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>  
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Re: new custom mill

2024-08-30 Thread 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Interesting... and quite the machine... a bit surprised that Legacy is 
showing some custom, machine fabrication work, that the client they made 
the machine for, requested... I would have thought that the client would 
have wanted that info kept propritory to their specific use... much like 
the so-called 40 ft. Legacy machine that they made quite a number of years 
ago(or at least that is what I heard!... LOL!)... and what anyone would use 
a 40ft Legacy for is also a bit of a mystery... and it seems Legacy is not 
letting that info out!... also, what does a machine, like what they showed 
in the video, cost in its basic form?

On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 8:41:14 AM UTC-4 Curt George wrote:

> Wow! that's Neat !  
>
> I wonder how much those table mountings cost? those just might be able to 
> use on the manual machines as well.
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
>  
>
> On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 07:06:54 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Yeah I saw that the other day. Pretty impressive. for sure. 
> Thanks for sharing with the group Bill. 
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 2:38 AM  wrote:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKV8JWLhzFA  interesting
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Bill
>
>  
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Re: LOM Model 500 for sale

2024-08-30 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 I can see some very real possibility's for that 500. But sadly not in my shop. 
The funny thing here is I own a 500 (its no ware close to, As nice as what you 
are selling Richard.) mine has the steel rails and only one set of plastic 
gears. One day I will find the time to re-work this machine, and perhaps make 
something New with it? but until then...  I'm in the same boat as you.   I have 
something nice that I just don't need, and have no idea on what I will do with 
it one day. ;-)
Take care.
C.A.G.
On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 07:02:39 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Nothing wrong with thinking outside the box, Bill that is how great idea's are 
born. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 1:14 AM  wrote:


That’s what I would have used it for if I had it here a widened slab miller, I 
got this crazy idea of running 5 routers at once each one with a 2 inch 
planning bit

In so doing a 10 inch wide cut one pass so up and then back I will have milled 
a 20inch wide slab I get crazy ideas some work some don’t lolol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Friday, 30 August 2024 3:14 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: LOM Model 500 for sale

 

Richard,

 

Using it as an "ornamental mill" is one possibility.

On the other hand, with "Slab Tables", Slab/Live Edge Shelves" being quite 
popular - the 500 could certainly be employed as a "slab flattener".  

 

Do you still have the LOM 1500?

Guys like Curtis, "Down Under Bill", and ZZ Tim (cousin to ZZ Top) can all give 
you advice on how to make that function work with the 500.    For instance you 
could make a "Slab Killer" that NY Joe (Biuno) would envy.   Use the 1500's 
long rails to allow flattening of really long boards and marry it with the long 
rails from the 500 to allow you to flatten really w-i-d-e boards - using them 
to support the router unit - essentially making the 500's rails be the gantry 
housing the router.

 

 

Best of luck to ya!

Mac

-Original Message-
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To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: LOM Model 500 for sale

 

Hello Richard

I wish you luck on your sale of the Legacy 500.

Sadly the 500 is not worth a lot of money, But like you pointed out

this machine looks in very good condition, and it looks like everything is 
there.

 

The 500 was made as an entry level machine, the plastic gearing and very 
limited 

taper ability's.   are the weak points of this machine.   

Depending on what you want for it, this Legacy could still work out very well 
for someone.

 

An example could be, as a first step on turning, on a production job. like 
table legs.  this machine

could do a good job on making the rough cuts, and then another machine, ether 
lathe or another Legacy could be the finial or finer elements needed?

 

Richard what are you thinking you would like to sell this Legacy for?

On Thursday, August 29, 2024 at 11:52:18 PM EDT, Richard Demerath 
 wrote:

 

I am presently downsizing and have a LOL model 500 for sale.  Don’t know much 
about it but it appears to be used very little.  Includes extra gears and 
measuring scales.  This is an extra one I received when I purchased a LOM 1500. 
 Located in Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin 54494

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Re: new custom mill

2024-08-30 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Wow! that's Neat !  
I wonder how much those table mountings cost? those just might be able to use 
on the manual machines as well.
C.A.G.

 
On Friday, August 30, 2024 at 07:06:54 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
 wrote:  
 
 Yeah I saw that the other day. Pretty impressive. for sure. Thanks for sharing 
with the group Bill. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & SpecialtyZiegler Laser Worx LLC14171 160th 
Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 2:38 AM  wrote:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKV8JWLhzFA  interesting

 

 

Bill

 

 


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Re: new custom mill

2024-08-30 Thread Tim Ziegler
Yeah I saw that the other day. Pretty impressive. for sure.
Thanks for sharing with the group Bill.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKV8JWLhzFA  interesting
>
>
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>
> Bill
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Re: LOM Model 500 for sale

2024-08-30 Thread Tim Ziegler
Nothing wrong with thinking outside the box, Bill that is how great idea's
are born.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 1:14 AM  wrote:

> That’s what I would have used it for if I had it here a widened slab
> miller, I got this crazy idea of running 5 routers at once each one with a
> 2 inch planning bit
>
> In so doing a 10 inch wide cut one pass so up and then back I will have
> milled a 20inch wide slab I get crazy ideas some work some don’t lolol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *M.W.Foscue
> *Sent:* Friday, 30 August 2024 3:14 PM
> *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: LOM Model 500 for sale
>
>
>
> Richard,
>
>
>
> Using it as an "ornamental mill" is one possibility.
>
> On the other hand, with "Slab Tables", Slab/Live Edge Shelves" being quite
> popular - the 500 could certainly be employed as a "slab flattener".
>
>
>
> Do you still have the LOM 1500?
>
> Guys like Curtis, "Down Under Bill", and ZZ Tim (cousin to ZZ Top) can all
> give you advice on how to make that function work with the 500.For
> instance you could make a "Slab Killer" that NY Joe (Biuno) would envy.
> Use the 1500's long rails to allow flattening of really long boards and
> marry it with the long rails from the 500 to allow you to flatten really
> w-i-d-e boards - using them to support the router unit - essentially making
> the 500's rails be the gantry housing the router.
>
>
>
>
>
> Best of luck to ya!
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Aug 30, 2024 12:30 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: LOM Model 500 for sale
>
>
>
> Hello Richard
>
> I wish you luck on your sale of the Legacy 500.
>
> Sadly the 500 is not worth a lot of money, But like you pointed out
>
> this machine looks in very good condition, and it looks like everything is
> there.
>
>
>
> The 500 was made as an entry level machine, the plastic gearing and very
> limited
>
> taper ability's.   are the weak points of this machine.
>
> Depending on what you want for it, this Legacy could still work out very
> well for someone.
>
>
>
> An example could be, as a first step on turning, on a production job. like
> table legs.  this machine
>
> could do a good job on making the rough cuts, and then another machine,
> ether lathe or another Legacy could be the finial or finer elements needed?
>
>
>
> Richard what are you thinking you would like to sell this Legacy for?
> --
> --
>
> On Thursday, August 29, 2024 at 11:52:18 PM EDT, Richard Demerath <
> dickdemerath6...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I am presently downsizing and have a LOL model 500 for sale.  Don’t know
> much about it but it appears to be used very little.  Includes extra gears
> and measuring scales.  This is an extra one I received when I purchased a
> LOM 1500.  Located in Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin 54494
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Re: LOM Model 500 for sale

2024-08-30 Thread Tim Ziegler
Some good creative idea's there Mac. The ever popular slab mill is the hit
of the industry right now.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 12:14 AM M.W.Foscue  wrote:

> Richard,
>
>
>
> Using it as an "ornamental mill" is one possibility.
>
> On the other hand, with "Slab Tables", Slab/Live Edge Shelves" being quite
> popular - the 500 could certainly be employed as a "slab flattener".
>
>
>
> Do you still have the LOM 1500?
>
> Guys like Curtis, "Down Under Bill", and ZZ Tim (cousin to ZZ Top) can all
> give you advice on how to make that function work with the 500.For
> instance you could make a "Slab Killer" that NY Joe (Biuno) would envy.
> Use the 1500's long rails to allow flattening of really long boards and
> marry it with the long rails from the 500 to allow you to flatten really
> w-i-d-e boards - using them to support the router unit - essentially making
> the 500's rails be the gantry housing the router.
>
>
>
>
>
> Best of luck to ya!
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: 
> Sent: Aug 30, 2024 12:30 AM
> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: LOM Model 500 for sale
>
>
> Hello Richard
> I wish you luck on your sale of the Legacy 500.
> Sadly the 500 is not worth a lot of money, But like you pointed out
> this machine looks in very good condition, and it looks like everything is
> there.
>
> The 500 was made as an entry level machine, the plastic gearing and very
> limited
> taper ability's.   are the weak points of this machine.
> Depending on what you want for it, this Legacy could still work out very
> well for someone.
>
> An example could be, as a first step on turning, on a production job. like
> table legs.  this machine
> could do a good job on making the rough cuts, and then another machine,
> ether lathe or another Legacy could be the finial or finer elements needed?
>
> Richard what are you thinking you would like to sell this Legacy for?
> --
> --
> On Thursday, August 29, 2024 at 11:52:18 PM EDT, Richard Demerath <
> dickdemerath6...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am presently downsizing and have a LOL model 500 for sale.  Don’t know
> much about it but it appears to be used very little.  Includes extra gears
> and measuring scales.  This is an extra one I received when I purchased a
> LOM 1500.  Located in Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin 54494
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RE: LOM Model 500 for sale

2024-08-29 Thread bulkeley
That’s what I would have used it for if I had it here a widened slab miller, I 
got this crazy idea of running 5 routers at once each one with a 2 inch 
planning bit

In so doing a 10 inch wide cut one pass so up and then back I will have milled 
a 20inch wide slab I get crazy ideas some work some don’t lolol

 

Bill

 

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 On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Friday, 30 August 2024 3:14 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: LOM Model 500 for sale

 

Richard,

 

Using it as an "ornamental mill" is one possibility.

On the other hand, with "Slab Tables", Slab/Live Edge Shelves" being quite 
popular - the 500 could certainly be employed as a "slab flattener".  

 

Do you still have the LOM 1500?

Guys like Curtis, "Down Under Bill", and ZZ Tim (cousin to ZZ Top) can all give 
you advice on how to make that function work with the 500.For instance you 
could make a "Slab Killer" that NY Joe (Biuno) would envy.   Use the 1500's 
long rails to allow flattening of really long boards and marry it with the long 
rails from the 500 to allow you to flatten really w-i-d-e boards - using them 
to support the router unit - essentially making the 500's rails be the gantry 
housing the router.

 

 

Best of luck to ya!

Mac

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Sent: Aug 30, 2024 12:30 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: LOM Model 500 for sale

 

Hello Richard

I wish you luck on your sale of the Legacy 500.

Sadly the 500 is not worth a lot of money, But like you pointed out

this machine looks in very good condition, and it looks like everything is 
there.

 

The 500 was made as an entry level machine, the plastic gearing and very 
limited 

taper ability's.   are the weak points of this machine.   

Depending on what you want for it, this Legacy could still work out very well 
for someone.

 

An example could be, as a first step on turning, on a production job. like 
table legs.  this machine

could do a good job on making the rough cuts, and then another machine, ether 
lathe or another Legacy could be the finial or finer elements needed?

 

Richard what are you thinking you would like to sell this Legacy for?

  _  

  _  

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mailto:dickdemerath6...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I am presently downsizing and have a LOL model 500 for sale.  Don’t know much 
about it but it appears to be used very little.  Includes extra gears and 
measuring scales.  This is an extra one I received when I purchased a LOM 1500. 
 Located in Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin 54494

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Re: LOM Model 500 for sale

2024-08-29 Thread M.W.Foscue
Richard,

Using it as an "ornamental mill" is one possibility.
On the other hand, with "Slab Tables", Slab/Live Edge Shelves" being quite 
popular - the 500 could certainly be employed as a "slab flattener".  

Do you still have the LOM 1500?
Guys like Curtis, "Down Under Bill", and ZZ Tim (cousin to ZZ Top) can all give 
you advice on how to make that function work with the 500.For instance you 
could make a "Slab Killer" that NY Joe (Biuno) would envy.   Use the 1500's 
long rails to allow flattening of really long boards and marry it with the long 
rails from the 500 to allow you to flatten really w-i-d-e boards - using them 
to support the router unit - essentially making the 500's rails be the gantry 
housing the router.


Best of luck to ya!
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 
Sent: Aug 30, 2024 12:30 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: LOM Model 500 for sale

Hello Richard
I wish you luck on your sale of the Legacy 500.
Sadly the 500 is not worth a lot of money, But like you pointed out
this machine looks in very good condition, and it looks like everything is 
there.
 
The 500 was made as an entry level machine, the plastic gearing and very 
limited 
taper ability's.   are the weak points of this machine.   
Depending on what you want for it, this Legacy could still work out very well 
for someone.
 
An example could be, as a first step on turning, on a production job. like 
table legs.  this machine
could do a good job on making the rough cuts, and then another machine, ether 
lathe or another Legacy could be the finial or finer elements needed?
 
Richard what are you thinking you would like to sell this Legacy for?
On Thursday, August 29, 2024 at 11:52:18 PM EDT, Richard Demerath 
 wrote:




 
I am presently downsizing and have a LOL model 500 for sale.  Don’t know 
much about it but it appears to be used very little.  Includes extra gears and 
measuring scales.  This is an extra one I received when I purchased a LOM 1500. 
 Located in Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin 54494






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RE: FastTrack MK2 Sharpening System from MPower

2024-08-29 Thread bulkeley
Yes I guessed that was why you posted it

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Friday, 30 August 2024 1:01 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FastTrack MK2 Sharpening System from MPower

 

hey Bill, 

 

I have much different equipment too. I put it out there for the occasional use 
people. 

Yeah my career was tooling tech for 20 of my Wood Craft Industries years so of 
course 

i have to have equipment too. lol

I think this would be a great item for those that use a lot of hand tools. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 6:04 PM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote:

Very interesting Tim but I own 2 worksharp systems a 2000 and a 3000 I even 
have one set up to work with a wolverine sharping system

 

So I got most things I need to sharpen covered but that one you found is way 
way cheaper than all the stuff I bought lol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>  
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Sent: Thursday, 29 August 2024 11:12 PM
To: LOM Group mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Fwd: FastTrack MK2 Sharpening System from MPower

 

A little something that should benefit many of us. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

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Re: FastTrack MK2 Sharpening System from MPower

2024-08-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
hey Bill,

I have much different equipment too. I put it out there for the occasional
use people.
Yeah my career was tooling tech for 20 of my Wood Craft Industries years so
of course
i have to have equipment too. lol
I think this would be a great item for those that use a lot of hand tools.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 6:04 PM  wrote:

> Very interesting Tim but I own 2 worksharp systems a 2000 and a 3000 I
> even have one set up to work with a wolverine sharping system
>
>
>
> So I got most things I need to sharpen covered but that one you found is
> way way cheaper than all the stuff I bought lol
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Thursday, 29 August 2024 11:12 PM
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> *Subject:* Fwd: FastTrack MK2 Sharpening System from MPower
>
>
>
> A little something that should benefit many of us.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
>
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>
> 14171 160th Ave.
>
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>
>
>
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>
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RE: FastTrack MK2 Sharpening System from MPower

2024-08-29 Thread bulkeley
Very interesting Tim but I own 2 worksharp systems a 2000 and a 3000 I even 
have one set up to work with a wolverine sharping system

 

So I got most things I need to sharpen covered but that one you found is way 
way cheaper than all the stuff I bought lol

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Thursday, 29 August 2024 11:12 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Fwd: FastTrack MK2 Sharpening System from MPower

 

A little something that should benefit many of us. 




Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

Ziegler Laser Worx LLC

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

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Re: Woodturning Newsletter - What's The Difference

2024-08-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
yup very good comments Curt.

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On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 7:55 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hello and Good morning Ralph.
>
> No I had no idea that Ron Brown owned a Legacy CNC.  And I am more
> impressed that
> you know him and talk to him on the phone.
> Relationships/Friends are becoming harder to make these days, When you
> find a good one, Hold on with
> both hands, you don't want to loose it. ;-)
> This group was made for and about this same concept, By sharing
> information, ideas, and goals, with others
> you can find and make new relationships with people who are more like
> yourself.
> The Legacy Ornamental Users Group is not just about "The Legacy" (LOM) It
> is about making your own Legacy, and Growing through the experiences we all
> share together.
>
> Have a Great day.
> And Welcome to the Group.
>
> C.A.G.
> On Thursday, August 29, 2024 at 08:41:00 AM EDT, Ralph Thorne <
> ralphtho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I'm relatively new to the group and have been reading most of the posts.
>
> I've known Ron for more than 30 years and spoke to him this morning. He
> wanted me to extend his thanks for sharing his emails.
>
> Did anyone know he makes a lot of his products with a Legacy cnc?
>
> Thanks,
> Ralph
>
> On Monday, August 26, 2024 at 12:26:16 AM UTC-4 M.W.Foscue wrote:
>
> To All,
>
>
>
> I know some of you in "The Group" get Ron Brown's emails.
>
> Tim has shared a couple recently.
>
>
>
> When I finally got around to reading this one - I thought "Holy Cow!  This
> info is worth sharing - even though some (or most) of us know the info - it
> is all well worth seeing/reading again!  Especially the info re: Sanding
> and Finishing.
>
>
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Mac
> --
> --
> --
>
> -Forwarded Message-
> From: Ron Brown's Best, LLC 
> Sent: Aug 17, 2024 3:00 AM
> To: 
> Subject: Woodturning Newsletter - What's The Difference
>
>
>
>
> *The Difference Between Perfect And Good Enough*
>
>
>
> *Perfect Definition: “Having all the required or desirable elements,
> qualities, or characteristics; as good as it is possible to be.”*
>
>
>
> In life, things are seldom perfect. When turning wooden objects, things
> are rarely perfect. I recommend that you strive to be better this time than
> last time. Three main areas within your control always make a huge
> difference in the final product and require surprisingly little extra
> effort.
>
>
>
> *Shape*
>
> Learning what shapes are pleasing is a lifelong quest for most of us. When
> you are making something for someone other than yourself, you have to
> consider the shape. It must be visually pleasing with the proper
> proportions. The curves must be fair and the separations must be sharp.
>
>
>
> A great way to develop an understanding of pleasing shapes is to study
> ceramics and glass vessels similar to the projects you undertake. There are
> tons of resources on classic shapes that have been around for centuries.
> There are good reasons for certain shapes to remain popular over the
> centuries. If you try to swim upstream for too long, you will soon tire and
> fail.
>
>
>
> *Sanding*
>
> This is an area most easily and quickly improved.
>
> 1)   *Half a Grit*: if you start with 100 grit sandpaper, don’t go finer
> than 150 grit next. Then don’t go finer than 220 grit and so on.
>
>
>
> 2)   Take time to *visually inspect* that all of the 100 grit scratches
> are removed before you finish with the 150 grit. If you don’t remove all of
> the scratches at each step, they will show through in the final finish.
>
>
>
> 3)   I recommend using *compressed air* to blow off all of the sanding
> dust along with a strong raking light to inspect your work before moving to
> the next grit. If you are working with very hard wood i.e. ebony, cocobolo,
> African blackwood, padauk, acrylic, or epoxy, this is especially important.
> Take extra time to get it right now or you will have to do it over.
>
>
>
> 4)   *NOTE*: I stop sanding wood at 320 grit. When using finer grits,
> friction can overheat the lignin in the wood and make it resistant to film
> finishes adhering to the surface causing the finish to fail much sooner.
>
>
>
> *Finish*
>
> 1)   If you rush 

Re: Fw: Woodturning Newsletter - What's The Difference

2024-08-29 Thread Tim Ziegler
Hey Ralph,

Yes and he is a tremendously nice guy. Ron and I have spoke as well.
We discussed products and price points etc...
Thanks for jumping in,, and hope to hear from you more. I am the one
that shares his News letter. So much good stuff in there. Very positive
News letter.

Please stay in touch.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 7:41 AM Ralph Thorne  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I'm relatively new to the group and have been reading most of the posts.
>
> I've known Ron for more than 30 years and spoke to him this morning. He
> wanted me to extend his thanks for sharing his emails.
>
> Did anyone know he makes a lot of his products with a Legacy cnc?
>
> Thanks,
> Ralph
>
> On Monday, August 26, 2024 at 12:26:16 AM UTC-4 M.W.Foscue wrote:
>
>> To All,
>>
>>
>>
>> I know some of you in "The Group" get Ron Brown's emails.
>>
>> Tim has shared a couple recently.
>>
>>
>>
>> When I finally got around to reading this one - I thought "Holy Cow!
>> This info is worth sharing - even though some (or most) of us know the info
>> - it is all well worth seeing/reading again!  Especially the info re:
>> Sanding and Finishing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Enjoy!
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>> --
>>
>> -Forwarded Message-
>> From: Ron Brown's Best, LLC 
>> Sent: Aug 17, 2024 3:00 AM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Woodturning Newsletter - What's The Difference
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *The Difference Between Perfect And Good Enough*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Perfect Definition: “Having all the required or desirable elements,
>> qualities, or characteristics; as good as it is possible to be.”*
>>
>>
>>
>> In life, things are seldom perfect. When turning wooden objects, things
>> are rarely perfect. I recommend that you strive to be better this time than
>> last time. Three main areas within your control always make a huge
>> difference in the final product and require surprisingly little extra
>> effort.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Shape*
>>
>> Learning what shapes are pleasing is a lifelong quest for most of us.
>> When you are making something for someone other than yourself, you have to
>> consider the shape. It must be visually pleasing with the proper
>> proportions. The curves must be fair and the separations must be sharp.
>>
>>
>>
>> A great way to develop an understanding of pleasing shapes is to study
>> ceramics and glass vessels similar to the projects you undertake. There are
>> tons of resources on classic shapes that have been around for centuries.
>> There are good reasons for certain shapes to remain popular over the
>> centuries. If you try to swim upstream for too long, you will soon tire and
>> fail.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Sanding*
>>
>> This is an area most easily and quickly improved.
>>
>> 1)   *Half a Grit*: if you start with 100 grit sandpaper, don’t go finer
>> than 150 grit next. Then don’t go finer than 220 grit and so on.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2)   Take time to *visually inspect* that all of the 100 grit scratches
>> are removed before you finish with the 150 grit. If you don’t remove all of
>> the scratches at each step, they will show through in the final finish.
>>
>>
>>
>> 3)   I recommend using *compressed air* to blow off all of the sanding
>> dust along with a strong raking light to inspect your work before moving to
>> the next grit. If you are working with very hard wood i.e. ebony, cocobolo,
>> African blackwood, padauk, acrylic, or epoxy, this is especially important.
>> Take extra time to get it right now or you will have to do it over.
>>
>>
>>
>> 4)   *NOTE*: I stop sanding wood at 320 grit. When using finer grits,
>> friction can overheat the lignin in the wood and make it resistant to film
>> finishes adhering to the surface causing the finish to fail much sooner.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Finish*
>>
>> 1)   If you rush the finishing process, you will have ruined all your
>> hard work.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2)   Film finishes (lacquer, varnish, shellac, epoxy, friction
>> finish-shellac) are more durable than wax finishes. But they take more time
>> and effort.
>>
>>
>>
>> 3)   Wax is a quick finish that will

Re: Woodturning Newsletter - What's The Difference

2024-08-29 Thread 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
 Hello and Good morning Ralph.
No I had no idea that Ron Brown owned a Legacy CNC.  And I am more impressed 
that you know him and talk to him on the phone. Relationships/Friends are 
becoming harder to make these days, When you find a good one, Hold on with both 
hands, you don't want to loose it. ;-)This group was made for and about this 
same concept, By sharing information, ideas, and goals, with othersyou can find 
and make new relationships with people who are more like yourself.The Legacy 
Ornamental Users Group is not just about "The Legacy" (LOM) It is about making 
your own Legacy, and Growing through the experiences we all share together.
Have a Great day.And Welcome to the Group.
C.A.G.On Thursday, August 29, 2024 at 08:41:00 AM EDT, Ralph Thorne 
 wrote:  
 
 Hello all,
I'm relatively new to the group and have been reading most of the posts.
I've known Ron for more than 30 years and spoke to him this morning. He wanted 
me to extend his thanks for sharing his emails.
Did anyone know he makes a lot of his products with a Legacy cnc?
Thanks,Ralph

On Monday, August 26, 2024 at 12:26:16 AM UTC-4 M.W.Foscue wrote:


To All,

 

I know some of you in "The Group" get Ron Brown's emails.

Tim has shared a couple recently.

 

When I finally got around to reading this one - I thought "Holy Cow!  This info 
is worth sharing - even though some (or most) of us know the info - it is all 
well worth seeing/reading again!  Especially the info re: Sanding and Finishing.

 

Enjoy!

Mac

-Forwarded Message-
From: Ron Brown's Best, LLC 
Sent: Aug 17, 2024 3:00 AM
To: 
Subject: Woodturning Newsletter - What's The Difference

 
 
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The Difference Between Perfect And Good Enough

 

Perfect Definition: “Having all the required or desirable elements, qualities, 
or characteristics; as good as it is possible to be.”

 

In life, things are seldom perfect. When turning wooden objects, things are 
rarely perfect. I recommend that you strive to be better this time than last 
time. Three main areas within your control always make a huge difference in the 
final product and require surprisingly little extra effort.

 

Shape

Learning what shapes are pleasing is a lifelong quest for most of us. When you 
are making something for someone other than yourself, you have to consider the 
shape. It must be visually pleasing with the proper proportions. The curves 
must be fair and the separations must be sharp.

 

A great way to develop an understanding of pleasing shapes is to study ceramics 
and glass vessels similar to the projects you undertake. There are tons of 
resources on classic shapes that have been around for centuries. There are good 
reasons for certain shapes to remain popular over the centuries. If you try to 
swim upstream for too long, you will soon tire and fail.

 

Sanding

This is an area most easily and quickly improved.

1)   Half a Grit: if you start with 100 grit sandpaper, don’t go finer than 150 
grit next. Then don’t go finer than 220 grit and so on.

 

2)   Take time to visually inspect that all of the 100 grit scratches are 
removed before you finish with the 150 grit. If you don’t remove all of the 
scratches at each step, they will show through in the final finish.

 

3)   I recommend using compressed air to blow off all of the sanding dust along 
with a strong raking light to inspect your work before moving to the next grit. 
If you are working with very hard wood i.e. ebony, cocobolo, African blackwood, 
padauk, acrylic, or epoxy, this is especially important. Take extra time to get 
it right now or you will have to do it over.

 

4)   NOTE: I stop sanding wood at 320 grit. When using finer grits, friction 
can overheat the lignin in the wood and make it resistant to film finishes 
adhering to the surface causing the finish to fail much sooner.

 

Finish

1)   If you rush the finishing process, you will have ruined all your hard work.

 

2)   Film finishes (lacquer, varnish, shellac, epoxy, friction finish-shellac) 
are more durable than wax finishes. But they take more time and effort.

 

3)   Wax is a quick finish that will dull over time and need to be renewed 
either by reapplication or more buffing. Wax finishes are quick to apply and 
look shiny and sparkly in the short term. Wax is perfect for projects where 
saving time is important and the durability of the finish is of no 
significance. Wax or oil is mandatory for utility vessels such as salad bowls 
or kitchen utensils.

 

4)   Multiple coats of lacquer (10 to 30) applied over several days and when 
allowed to cure for 30 or more days, can be polished to a brilliant mirror-like 
finish. This is the finish of choice for art and display-only pieces bringing 
top dollars such as in a gallery.

 

Try to do better each time than the time before and you will quickly reach 
Master Status Skill Sets. C

Re: Fw: Woodturning Newsletter - What's The Difference

2024-08-29 Thread Ralph Thorne
Hello all,

I'm relatively new to the group and have been reading most of the posts.

I've known Ron for more than 30 years and spoke to him this morning. He 
wanted me to extend his thanks for sharing his emails.

Did anyone know he makes a lot of his products with a Legacy cnc?

Thanks,
Ralph

On Monday, August 26, 2024 at 12:26:16 AM UTC-4 M.W.Foscue wrote:

> To All,
>
>  
>
> I know some of you in "The Group" get Ron Brown's emails.
>
> Tim has shared a couple recently.
>
>  
>
> When I finally got around to reading this one - I thought "Holy Cow!  This 
> info is worth sharing - even though some (or most) of us know the info - it 
> is all well worth seeing/reading again!  Especially the info re: Sanding 
> and Finishing.
>
>  
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Mac
> --
> --
> --
>
> -Forwarded Message-
> From: Ron Brown's Best, LLC 
> Sent: Aug 17, 2024 3:00 AM
> To: 
> Subject: Woodturning Newsletter - What's The Difference
>
>  
>   
>
> *The Difference Between Perfect And Good Enough*
>
>  
>
> *Perfect Definition: “Having all the required or desirable elements, 
> qualities, or characteristics; as good as it is possible to be.”*
>
>  
>
> In life, things are seldom perfect. When turning wooden objects, things 
> are rarely perfect. I recommend that you strive to be better this time than 
> last time. Three main areas within your control always make a huge 
> difference in the final product and require surprisingly little extra 
> effort.
>
>  
>
> *Shape*
>
> Learning what shapes are pleasing is a lifelong quest for most of us. When 
> you are making something for someone other than yourself, you have to 
> consider the shape. It must be visually pleasing with the proper 
> proportions. The curves must be fair and the separations must be sharp.
>
>  
>
> A great way to develop an understanding of pleasing shapes is to study 
> ceramics and glass vessels similar to the projects you undertake. There are 
> tons of resources on classic shapes that have been around for centuries. 
> There are good reasons for certain shapes to remain popular over the 
> centuries. If you try to swim upstream for too long, you will soon tire and 
> fail.
>
>  
>
> *Sanding*
>
> This is an area most easily and quickly improved.
>
> 1)   *Half a Grit*: if you start with 100 grit sandpaper, don’t go finer 
> than 150 grit next. Then don’t go finer than 220 grit and so on.
>
>  
>
> 2)   Take time to *visually inspect* that all of the 100 grit scratches 
> are removed before you finish with the 150 grit. If you don’t remove all of 
> the scratches at each step, they will show through in the final finish.
>
>  
>
> 3)   I recommend using *compressed air* to blow off all of the sanding 
> dust along with a strong raking light to inspect your work before moving to 
> the next grit. If you are working with very hard wood i.e. ebony, cocobolo, 
> African blackwood, padauk, acrylic, or epoxy, this is especially important. 
> Take extra time to get it right now or you will have to do it over.
>
>  
>
> 4)   *NOTE*: I stop sanding wood at 320 grit. When using finer grits, 
> friction can overheat the lignin in the wood and make it resistant to film 
> finishes adhering to the surface causing the finish to fail much sooner.
>
>  
>
> *Finish*
>
> 1)   If you rush the finishing process, you will have ruined all your hard 
> work.
>
>  
>
> 2)   Film finishes (lacquer, varnish, shellac, epoxy, friction 
> finish-shellac) are more durable than wax finishes. But they take more time 
> and effort.
>
>  
>
> 3)   Wax is a quick finish that will dull over time and need to be renewed 
> either by reapplication or more buffing. Wax finishes are quick to apply 
> and look shiny and sparkly in the short term. Wax is perfect for projects 
> where saving time is important and the durability of the finish is of no 
> significance. Wax or oil is mandatory for utility vessels such as salad 
> bowls or kitchen utensils.
>
>  
>
> 4)   Multiple coats of lacquer (10 to 30) applied over several days and 
> when allowed to cure for 30 or more days, can be polished to a brilliant 
> mirror-like finish. This is the finish of choice for art and display-only 
> pieces bringing top dollars such as in a gallery.
>
>  
>
> Try to do better each time than the time before and you will quickly reach 
> Master Status Skill Sets. Consider the end use for what you are making and 
> decide how much time you can devote to making something perfect or just 
> good enoug

Re: Diamond Sharpening Stick – For Sharper Garden Tools in Seconds

2024-08-28 Thread Tim Ziegler
yup there is.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 6:27 PM  wrote:

> Some interesting stuff there
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 28, 2024 11:10 PM
> *To:* LOM Group 
> *Subject:* Fwd: Diamond Sharpening Stick – For Sharper Garden Tools in
> Seconds
>
>
>
> Possibly something we all could use. Canada based company. Great people to
> work with.
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RE: Diamond Sharpening Stick – For Sharper Garden Tools in Seconds

2024-08-28 Thread bulkeley
Some interesting stuff there

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2024 11:10 PM
To: LOM Group 
Subject: Fwd: Diamond Sharpening Stick – For Sharper Garden Tools in Seconds

 

Possibly something we all could use. Canada based company. Great people to work 
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Re: Diamond Sharpening Stick – For Sharper Garden Tools in Seconds

2024-08-28 Thread Tim Ziegler
Hey Robert thanks for the feedback for sure.
Yeah diamond hones have their place.and garden tools are really not it for
sure.

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 10:01 AM Shuai Robert  wrote:

> Lee valley is the best company ever
>
> Also buy bahco triangular saw files from Lee valley. They are made in
> Portugal and highly recommended by Paul Sellers the most skilled wood
> virtuoso
>
> Realistically sandpaper with stick of wood is what I use to sharpen garden
> tools, diamond seem to crush and wear off but last maybe 50 times sandpaper
> durability. And turn into fiber grit, still usable
>
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2024, 6:10 AM Tim Ziegler  wrote:
>
>> Possibly something we all could use. Canada based company. Great people
>> to work with.
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: Lee Valley 
>> Date: Wed, Aug 28, 2024, 8:08 AM
>> Subject: Diamond Sharpening Stick – For Sharper Garden Tools in Seconds
>> To: 
>>
>>
>> This and more sharpening solutions and tools for around the garden
>>
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>> ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌  ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌ ‌
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>> 
>> *Free Shipping on Orders of $50 or More
>> *
>> [image: Lee Valley]
>> 
>>
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>>
>> Diamond Sharpening Stick
>> [image: Diamond Sharpening Stick]
>> 
>> [image: Diamond Sharpening Stick]
>> 
>>
>> This simple little tool made from diamond polycrystalline makes quick
>> work of sharpening your pruners, loppers, scissors and even fishhooks.
>>
>>
>> Just swipe the stick a few times across the bevel of any blade that has
>> become dull over time to restore its razor-sharp edge.
>>
>> Shop Now
>> 
>> More Sharpening Solutions
>> [image: Precision Oiler Pen]
>> 
>> [image: Double-Sided Axe Sharpener]
>> 
>> [image: Rotary Mower Sharpener]
>> 
>> Tools for Around the Garden
>> [image: Ultrasonic Pest Deterrent]
>> 
>> [image: Set of 2 Mini Garden Shears]
>> 
>> [image: Lee Valley Blade Cultivator]
>> 
>> [image: Lee Valley Dutch Hoe]
>> 
>> [image: Long-Handled Grass Shears]
>> 
>> [image: Bubbler Spot Soaker]
>> 
>> [image: Pruners]
>> 
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