Re: Spindle Drive Modification
Of course Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 6:16 PM wrote: > Thank you sir > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 13 February 2023 9:16 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Spindle Drive Modification > > > > Yes and extremely well designed I might add. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 12:33 AM wrote: > > There are other ways to mound a spindle motor on your legacy I chose the > swing away type with > > A gear, this when incorporated with all the different legacy gears gives a > greater range of speeds with the variable speed gear motor from very slow > to quite fast. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs=2s_channel=aussiman77181 > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Nathaniel Bacon > *Sent:* Sunday, 12 February 2023 8:48 AM > *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > *Subject:* Spindle Drive Modification > > > > Saturday Feb 11, 2023 > > > > To: Curt George and all the members of the Legacy Google Group > > > > Thank you for all the valuable information that you have been providing > over the many years. I'm a new Legacy Mill owner and have learned a lot by > reading your posts. Thank you. > > > > I have some question for Curt George, but anyone can chime in and share > their thoughts. > > > > Over the last two months, I have purchased two Legacy mills, one model > 1000 (used but in great condition with lots of gears and goodies) and one > model 1800 (a brand new 2004 model, still in its boxes). > > I'm in the process of putting together the 1800. The tip on the grooved > rail will help ensure that I do it correctly. > > On the Legacy model 1000, my first upgrade is replacing the plastic > bushings in the headstock and tailstock with ball bearings. > > Curt, referencing your YouTube video on the "Spindle Drive Modification" < > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXCC-EolhjQ>. > > I’m impressed and understand your video description and demo of the > spindle drive. I would like to incorporate this upgrade into my Legacy > model 1000. > > Questions: > > On the DC drive motor, what brand, model and torque value and speed would > you recommend? > > On the DC motor controller what brand and size would be best? > > Would a reversible controller and motor have an advantage? > > Another option to achieve variable speed and direction control, would a > 3-phase motor and controller. Would that be a good choice? > > Curt, on a side note, I started collecting and using Shopsmith tools about > 6 years ago. I also noticed that you have Shopsmith tools in your shop. I > took note that you had successfully adapted Shopsmith parts to your legacy > – great job! > > I agree with your encouraging viewers to explore their imaginations > without limits. > > VR, > > Nathaniel Bacon > > Email: natba...@homail.com > > Vacaville, California > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/f1ceff3e-11b5-4568-8a01-2f269cc3b8afn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/f1ceff3e-11b5-4568-8a01-2f269cc3b8afn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/002201d93eab%24eabee8d0%24c03cba70%24%40mmnet.com.au > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/002201d93eab%24eabee8d0%24c03cba70%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > .
RE: Spindle Drive Modification
Thank you sir Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler Sent: Monday, 13 February 2023 9:16 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Spindle Drive Modification Yes and extremely well designed I might add. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 12:33 AM mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: There are other ways to mound a spindle motor on your legacy I chose the swing away type with A gear, this when incorporated with all the different legacy gears gives a greater range of speeds with the variable speed gear motor from very slow to quite fast. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs=2s_channel=aussiman77181> =2s_channel=aussiman77181 Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Nathaniel Bacon Sent: Sunday, 12 February 2023 8:48 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Spindle Drive Modification Saturday Feb 11, 2023 To: Curt George and all the members of the Legacy Google Group Thank you for all the valuable information that you have been providing over the many years. I'm a new Legacy Mill owner and have learned a lot by reading your posts. Thank you. I have some question for Curt George, but anyone can chime in and share their thoughts. Over the last two months, I have purchased two Legacy mills, one model 1000 (used but in great condition with lots of gears and goodies) and one model 1800 (a brand new 2004 model, still in its boxes). I'm in the process of putting together the 1800. The tip on the grooved rail will help ensure that I do it correctly. On the Legacy model 1000, my first upgrade is replacing the plastic bushings in the headstock and tailstock with ball bearings. Curt, referencing your YouTube video on the "Spindle Drive Modification" <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXCC-EolhjQ>. I’m impressed and understand your video description and demo of the spindle drive. I would like to incorporate this upgrade into my Legacy model 1000. Questions: On the DC drive motor, what brand, model and torque value and speed would you recommend? On the DC motor controller what brand and size would be best? Would a reversible controller and motor have an advantage? Another option to achieve variable speed and direction control, would a 3-phase motor and controller. Would that be a good choice? Curt, on a side note, I started collecting and using Shopsmith tools about 6 years ago. I also noticed that you have Shopsmith tools in your shop. I took note that you had successfully adapted Shopsmith parts to your legacy – great job! I agree with your encouraging viewers to explore their imaginations without limits. VR, Nathaniel Bacon Email: natba...@homail.com <mailto:natba...@homail.com> Vacaville, California -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/f1ceff3e-11b5-4568-8a01-2f269cc3b8afn%40googlegroups.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/f1ceff3e-11b5-4568-8a01-2f269cc3b8afn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/002201d93eab%24eabee8d0%24c03cba70%24%40mmnet.com.au <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/002201d93eab%24eabee8d0%24c03cba70%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLEjgmSP%2B%3DJNaPi90gFWSgaexOm
Re: Spindle Drive Modification
Welcome to the group Nathaniel Jeff from Connecticut Legacy Model 900 - ManualSent from my iPhoneOn Feb 12, 2023, at 1:23 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: Hello Nathaniel First off, Thank you. and Welcome to the group.The Legacy is a very good machine but there is a slight learning curve that needs to be understood.I recommend to "PLAY" with your machine a lot before trying to make anything for real.and to use "FREE" wood/ fire wood/scraps/tree clippings... Dont waist good wood on play projects that most likely will not turn out. When I am testing I try to use the same wood over and over, turning it down and then re-working the wood until it can no long be used.The questions on the motors. The DC motor sold by Legacy is a 90v DC motor, I believe it is a Dayton? The motor is a gear motor( I use a larger motor for my machine, I had to off-set the motor to use it, where Legacy used a coupler and put the motor in line with the acme screw.) , Max speed is something like 25-40 rpm, (I could be wrong on the rpm? but it is slow.) The DC motor controller is 110ac/90 dc, variable speed, and has a directional gear switch. Two limit switches. IN my book it is a must have tool to make the Legacy work as it was meant to work.The spindle motor dose not need to turn fast (90rpm max.) ON My Legacy 1000ex I used a pulley and belt set-up. On my 200 I made a set of gears to mate up with the motor.3 phase power is industrial standards, It is not needed to make the Legacy work, but Use what you have/can. I have modified all my tools in the hope to get the most out of them. I highly recommend to try to make all your tool, uniformed, That is make the set-up you use standardized, so you can switch form one machine to another with out having to use a different set-up each time. It saves time and really helps when things don't quite go as they should, (exp. sanding a part where there was some tare out...) I have made a number of adaptors that all use Legacy's hub drive set-up. (I think there drive hubs are the best thing since sliced bread! I use them on ALL my machines including my Shop Smith.) Also (Last note) when turning multiple parts. use the assembly line concept when possible. Do one thing on every part, and then move on. DO NOT make one piece at a time, over and over like a CNC or an industrial machine would do. This assembly line concept will make sure every part is the same.I am sorry for the delay of our postings today. I had to approve them before the group could see them. You should not have any problems posting to the group after today.I hope to talk to you more in the near future.Have a good day.C.A.G. On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 11:34:32 PM EST, Nathaniel Bacon wrote: Saturday February 11, 2023 To: Google Groups - Legacy Ornamental Mills I’m new to Legacy Mills, and this is my first post. I have been reading many of the various posts and have gathered a lot of good, important and useful information from them. I thank all of you. I’ve also watched the various Youtube.com videos and have learned a lot from the oldest to the newest. Over the last two months, I have purchased two Legacy mills, one model 1000 (used but in great condition with lots of gears and goodies) and one model 1800 (a brand new 2004 model, still in its boxes). I'm in the process of putting together the 1800. The tip on the grooved rails is a big help to make sure that I put the tool together correctly. On the Legacy model 1000, my first upgrade is replacing the plastic bushings in the headstock and tailstock with steel ball bearings assemblies. Even though I have some questions for Curt George, I encourage anyone to voice their comments. Curt: Reference: YouTube.com video: Spindle Drive Modification (131) The Spindle Drive Motor - YouTube.I’m impressed and understand your video description and demo of the spindle drive. I would like to incorporate this upgrade into my Legacy model 1000. Questions: On the DC drive motor, what brand, model, torque value and speed would you recommend? On the motor controller what brand and size would be best? Would a reversible controller and motor have an advantage? Also, would a 3-phase motor work using a SMV frequency inverter controller to adjust speed, direction? The SMV frequency controller takes 125±AC input and converts it to 220±v 3-phase. This system allows for speed and direction control. Curt: One a side note, I started collecting and using Shopsmith tools about 6 years ago. I also noticed that you have Shopsmith tools in your shop. I took note that you had successfully adapted Shopsmith parts to your legacy – great job! I agree with your encouraging viewers to explore their imaginations without limits. VR, Nathaniel Bacon Email: natba...@
Re: Spindle Drive Modification
Yes and extremely well designed I might add. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 12:33 AM wrote: > There are other ways to mound a spindle motor on your legacy I chose the > swing away type with > > A gear, this when incorporated with all the different legacy gears gives a > greater range of speeds with the variable speed gear motor from very slow > to quite fast. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs=2s_channel=aussiman77181 > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Nathaniel Bacon > *Sent:* Sunday, 12 February 2023 8:48 AM > *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills > *Subject:* Spindle Drive Modification > > > > Saturday Feb 11, 2023 > > > > To: Curt George and all the members of the Legacy Google Group > > > > Thank you for all the valuable information that you have been providing > over the many years. I'm a new Legacy Mill owner and have learned a lot by > reading your posts. Thank you. > > > > I have some question for Curt George, but anyone can chime in and share > their thoughts. > > > > Over the last two months, I have purchased two Legacy mills, one model > 1000 (used but in great condition with lots of gears and goodies) and one > model 1800 (a brand new 2004 model, still in its boxes). > > I'm in the process of putting together the 1800. The tip on the grooved > rail will help ensure that I do it correctly. > > On the Legacy model 1000, my first upgrade is replacing the plastic > bushings in the headstock and tailstock with ball bearings. > > Curt, referencing your YouTube video on the "Spindle Drive Modification" < > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXCC-EolhjQ>. > > I’m impressed and understand your video description and demo of the > spindle drive. I would like to incorporate this upgrade into my Legacy > model 1000. > > Questions: > > On the DC drive motor, what brand, model and torque value and speed would > you recommend? > > On the DC motor controller what brand and size would be best? > > Would a reversible controller and motor have an advantage? > > Another option to achieve variable speed and direction control, would a > 3-phase motor and controller. Would that be a good choice? > > Curt, on a side note, I started collecting and using Shopsmith tools about > 6 years ago. I also noticed that you have Shopsmith tools in your shop. I > took note that you had successfully adapted Shopsmith parts to your legacy > – great job! > > I agree with your encouraging viewers to explore their imaginations > without limits. > > VR, > > Nathaniel Bacon > > Email: natba...@homail.com > > Vacaville, California > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/f1ceff3e-11b5-4568-8a01-2f269cc3b8afn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/f1ceff3e-11b5-4568-8a01-2f269cc3b8afn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/002201d93eab%24eabee8d0%24c03cba70%24%40mmnet.com.au > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/002201d93eab%24eabee8d0%24c03cba70%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLEjgmSP%2B%3DJNaPi90gFWSgaexOmyNp8iDvNM%2B9-TvPT4Mg%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: Spindle Drive Modification
Welcome to the group Nathanial. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 12:23 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Hello Nathaniel > > First off, Thank you. and Welcome to the group. > > The Legacy is a very good machine but there is a slight learning curve > that needs to be understood. > I recommend to "PLAY" with your machine a lot before trying to make > anything for real. > and to use "FREE" wood/ fire wood/scraps/tree clippings... Dont waist good > wood on play projects that most likely will not turn out. When I am testing > I try to use the same wood over and over, turning it down and then > re-working the wood until it can no long be used. > > The questions on the motors. The DC motor sold by Legacy is a 90v DC > motor, I believe it is a Dayton? The motor is a gear motor > ( I use a larger motor for my machine, I had to off-set the motor to use > it, where Legacy used a coupler and put the motor in line with the acme > screw.) , Max speed is something like 25-40 rpm, (I could be wrong on the > rpm? but it is slow.) The DC motor controller is 110ac/90 dc, variable > speed, and has a directional gear switch. Two limit switches. IN my book it > is a must have tool to make the Legacy work as it was meant to work. > The spindle motor dose not need to turn fast (90rpm max.) ON My Legacy > 1000ex I used a pulley and belt set-up. On my 200 I made a set of gears to > mate up with the motor. > 3 phase power is industrial standards, It is not needed to make the Legacy > work, but Use what you have/can. > I have modified all my tools in the hope to get the most out of them. I > highly recommend to try to make all your tool, uniformed, That is make the > set-up you use standardized, so you can switch form one machine to another > with out having to use a different set-up each time. It saves time and > really helps when things don't quite go as they should, (exp. sanding a > part where there was some tare out...) I have made a number of adaptors > that all use Legacy's hub drive set-up. (I think there drive hubs are the > best thing since sliced bread! I use them on ALL my machines including my > Shop Smith.) > Also (Last note) when turning multiple parts. use the assembly line > concept when possible. Do one thing on every part, and then move on. DO NOT > make one piece at a time, over and over like a CNC or an industrial machine > would do. This assembly line concept will make sure every part is the same. > > I am sorry for the delay of our postings today. I had to approve them > before the group could see them. You should not have any problems posting > to the group after today. > > I hope to talk to you more in the near future. > Have a good day. > > C.A.G. > > On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 11:34:32 PM EST, Nathaniel Bacon < > natbac...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Saturday February 11, 2023 > > To: Google Groups - Legacy Ornamental Mills > > I’m new to Legacy Mills, and this is my first post. I have been reading > many of the various posts and have gathered a lot of good, important and > useful information from them. I thank all of you. > > I’ve also watched the various Youtube.com videos and have learned a lot > from the oldest to the newest. > > Over the last two months, I have purchased two Legacy mills, one model > 1000 (used but in great condition with lots of gears and goodies) and one > model 1800 (a brand new 2004 model, still in its boxes). > > I'm in the process of putting together the 1800. The tip on the grooved > rails is a big help to make sure that I put the tool together correctly. > > On the Legacy model 1000, my first upgrade is replacing the plastic > bushings in the headstock and tailstock with steel ball bearings > assemblies. > > Even though I have some questions for Curt George, I encourage anyone to > voice their comments. > > Curt: > > Reference: YouTube.com video: *Spindle Drive Modification* (131) The > Spindle Drive Motor - YouTube > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXCC-EolhjQ>. > > I’m impressed and understand your video description and demo of the > spindle drive. > > I would like to incorporate this upgrade into my Legacy model 1000. > > Questions: > > On the DC drive motor, what brand, model, torque value and speed would you > recommend? > > On the motor controller what brand and size would be best? > > Would a reversible controller and motor have an advantage? > > Also, would a 3-phase motor work using a SMV frequency inverter controller >
RE: Spindle Drive Modification
There are other ways to mound a spindle motor on your legacy I chose the swing away type with A gear, this when incorporated with all the different legacy gears gives a greater range of speeds with the variable speed gear motor from very slow to quite fast. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n80P9cLYkFs=2s_channel=aussiman77181> =2s_channel=aussiman77181 Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Nathaniel Bacon Sent: Sunday, 12 February 2023 8:48 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Spindle Drive Modification Saturday Feb 11, 2023 To: Curt George and all the members of the Legacy Google Group Thank you for all the valuable information that you have been providing over the many years. I'm a new Legacy Mill owner and have learned a lot by reading your posts. Thank you. I have some question for Curt George, but anyone can chime in and share their thoughts. Over the last two months, I have purchased two Legacy mills, one model 1000 (used but in great condition with lots of gears and goodies) and one model 1800 (a brand new 2004 model, still in its boxes). I'm in the process of putting together the 1800. The tip on the grooved rail will help ensure that I do it correctly. On the Legacy model 1000, my first upgrade is replacing the plastic bushings in the headstock and tailstock with ball bearings. Curt, referencing your YouTube video on the "Spindle Drive Modification" <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXCC-EolhjQ>. I’m impressed and understand your video description and demo of the spindle drive. I would like to incorporate this upgrade into my Legacy model 1000. Questions: On the DC drive motor, what brand, model and torque value and speed would you recommend? On the DC motor controller what brand and size would be best? Would a reversible controller and motor have an advantage? Another option to achieve variable speed and direction control, would a 3-phase motor and controller. Would that be a good choice? Curt, on a side note, I started collecting and using Shopsmith tools about 6 years ago. I also noticed that you have Shopsmith tools in your shop. I took note that you had successfully adapted Shopsmith parts to your legacy – great job! I agree with your encouraging viewers to explore their imaginations without limits. VR, Nathaniel Bacon Email: natba...@homail.com <mailto:natba...@homail.com> Vacaville, California -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/f1ceff3e-11b5-4568-8a01-2f269cc3b8afn%40googlegroups.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/f1ceff3e-11b5-4568-8a01-2f269cc3b8afn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/002201d93eab%24eabee8d0%24c03cba70%24%40mmnet.com.au.
Spindle Drive Modification
Saturday Feb 11, 2023 To: Curt George and all the members of the Legacy Google Group Thank you for all the valuable information that you have been providing over the many years. I'm a new Legacy Mill owner and have learned a lot by reading your posts. Thank you. I have some question for Curt George, but anyone can chime in and share their thoughts. Over the last two months, I have purchased two Legacy mills, one model 1000 (used but in great condition with lots of gears and goodies) and one model 1800 (a brand new 2004 model, still in its boxes). I'm in the process of putting together the 1800. The tip on the grooved rail will help ensure that I do it correctly. On the Legacy model 1000, my first upgrade is replacing the plastic bushings in the headstock and tailstock with ball bearings. Curt, referencing your YouTube video on the "Spindle Drive Modification" <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXCC-EolhjQ>. I’m impressed and understand your video description and demo of the spindle drive. I would like to incorporate this upgrade into my Legacy model 1000. Questions: On the DC drive motor, what brand, model and torque value and speed would you recommend? On the DC motor controller what brand and size would be best? Would a reversible controller and motor have an advantage? Another option to achieve variable speed and direction control, would a 3-phase motor and controller. Would that be a good choice? Curt, on a side note, I started collecting and using Shopsmith tools about 6 years ago. I also noticed that you have Shopsmith tools in your shop. I took note that you had successfully adapted Shopsmith parts to your legacy – great job! I agree with your encouraging viewers to explore their imaginations without limits. VR, Nathaniel Bacon Email: natba...@homail.com Vacaville, California -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/f1ceff3e-11b5-4568-8a01-2f269cc3b8afn%40googlegroups.com.
Spindle Drive Modification
Saturday February 11, 2023 To: Google Groups - Legacy Ornamental Mills I’m new to Legacy Mills, and this is my first post. I have been reading many of the various posts and have gathered a lot of good, important and useful information from them. I thank all of you. I’ve also watched the various Youtube.com videos and have learned a lot from the oldest to the newest. Over the last two months, I have purchased two Legacy mills, one model 1000 (used but in great condition with lots of gears and goodies) and one model 1800 (a brand new 2004 model, still in its boxes). I'm in the process of putting together the 1800. The tip on the grooved rails is a big help to make sure that I put the tool together correctly. On the Legacy model 1000, my first upgrade is replacing the plastic bushings in the headstock and tailstock with steel ball bearings assemblies. Even though I have some questions for Curt George, I encourage anyone to voice their comments. Curt: Reference: YouTube.com video: *Spindle Drive Modification* (131) The Spindle Drive Motor - YouTube <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXCC-EolhjQ>. I’m impressed and understand your video description and demo of the spindle drive. I would like to incorporate this upgrade into my Legacy model 1000. Questions: On the DC drive motor, what brand, model, torque value and speed would you recommend? On the motor controller what brand and size would be best? Would a reversible controller and motor have an advantage? Also, would a 3-phase motor work using a SMV frequency inverter controller to adjust speed, direction? The SMV frequency controller takes 125±AC input and converts it to 220±v 3-phase. This system allows for speed and direction control. Curt: One a side note, I started collecting and using Shopsmith tools about 6 years ago. I also noticed that you have Shopsmith tools in your shop. I took note that you had successfully adapted Shopsmith parts to your legacy – great job! I agree with your encouraging viewers to explore their imaginations without limits. VR, Nathaniel Bacon Email: natba...@hotmail.com / natbac...@gmail.com Vacaville, California -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/fb3c4f56-81e5-4945-b784-377bf9796833n%40googlegroups.com.
Re: Spindle Drive Modification
Dusty Dave or Tim how did those calm gears mesh up with the Legacy spindle shaft? Do you have any other close up pictures? This is an awesome drive center. thank you very much for shairing. C.A.G. On Nov 14, 10:57 pm, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote: Seeing Legacy's model 2200 reminds me of an upgrade Dusty Dave from Toledo sent me. He used 2 Toyota Avalone cam gears and bearing pulley VW timing belt to connect the spindle to a dc gear motor. There is a matching speed controller as well. This motor is reversible and is strong enough to drive his rotary table. Here's some photos. -Tim spindle_drive.jpg 86KViewDownload speed_control.jpg 79KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
Re: Spindle Drive Modification
I'm not sure how the cam gears bolt up to either the motor or the legacy spindle shaft. I know there was some machining involved. I'm also not sure the detail on the motor other than it's a 1/4 hp. I don't know the total rpm range. Hopefully Dave will fill me in. As far as the rotary table goes, it's an awesome deal. I have most of the construction photos and I've been planning to show the group the entire project, but I think something was missing. I've shown bits of it in the past, this weekend I'll figure out what I'm missing. -Tim - Original Message - From: Curtis curtgeo...@wowway.com To: Legacy Ornamental Mills legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 3:41 AM Subject: Re: Spindle Drive Modification Dusty Dave or Tim how did those calm gears mesh up with the Legacy spindle shaft? Do you have any other close up pictures? This is an awesome drive center. thank you very much for shairing. C.A.G. On Nov 14, 10:57 pm, Tim Krause artmarb...@comcast.net wrote: Seeing Legacy's model 2200 reminds me of an upgrade Dusty Dave from Toledo sent me. He used 2 Toyota Avalone cam gears and bearing pulley VW timing belt to connect the spindle to a dc gear motor. There is a matching speed controller as well. This motor is reversible and is strong enough to drive his rotary table. Here's some photos. -Tim spindle_drive.jpg 86KViewDownload speed_control.jpg 79KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Legacy Ornamental Mills group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.
