[LegacyUG] Thanks for the help

[Pete McDonald]

I got my direct line put together and the results are a lot more manageable 
than my huge file.  I did as some of you recommended and tagged people 
through the direct line.


Here is the old database, if you look at the Top 25 surnames, you can see 
alot of the names are unknown.


http://www.mcfamilytree.com/surnames.php?tree=McDonald


With the cleaned up file of just direct ancestry, there are still some 
unknown names, but now they are number 5 on the list. Click below:


http://www.mcfamilytree.com/surnames.php?tree=Direct


Again, thanks for the help.  Pete 






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Re: [LegacyUG] birth, marriage and death Events?

[Cathy]

Hi Ralf,

What you have print out in Sources is your own call. I do different 
things for different purposes.


For general distribution to my whole family, I don't print any source 
detail - just Master Sources as they're not so interested - and if 
they are, I'd like some feedback and information from them ;-) so 
there is a note that further information is available.  (Before 
making this global change through Options > Customise > Sources tab 
make a copy of your family file and use that.) That's why for notices 
that are particularly interesting, I double up and put them in the 
actual notes.


For the couple in the family that are interested in the detail I do a 
full printout of sources with source detail including source detail 
text except for stuff that I have been asked to keep private. (or 
rather PDF as I'd rather they printed what they wanted in hard copy 
than me use several trees and find they're just as happy to only have 
a few pages or none in hard copy) Yes the sources can get longer than 
the report - but then I used to hand in essays with endnotes as long 
or longer than the text :-)


That's a long way of saying what I said in the first line: What you 
have print out in Sources is your own call.


Re transcribing. If I transcribe something I do a full transcription 
of the bit that is relevant. (ie I transcribe birth notice for my 
family fully - but not the birth notices on the whole page.) Yes it 
takes time and yes it makes for long sources if you choose to print it.


Cathy

At 11:24 AM 7/09/2007, you wrote:


Wendy and Cathy:

So, by putting it in the Source Detail Text you have
it show up in the Sources print out, correct?

Do you transcribe EVERYTHING into the Source Detail
Text? If yes, that must make for a super crazy long
Source print out?

If no, what other Sources do you include in the text
to have print out?

Ralf

--- Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I also tend to put them in the Source Detail Text.
> However, if I want to highlight one for some reason,
> I put it in the
> Notes for that event - Birth, Marriage or Death.
> I can't see the point of making another event for
> them.
>
> Cathy
>
> At 09:41 AM 7/09/2007, you wrote:
>
> >An alternative would be to use your newspaper
> cutting as a source
> >(which is what it is), and transcribe the text into
> the Detail Text
> >tab in the Source Detail.  Don't forget to tick the
> box "Add this
> >Text to the Source Citation on Reports".
> >
> >Then you can attach it to any item of data that
> relates to it, and
> >the article will be printed just the once, in your
> sources at the
> >end of the report.  Use the Source Clipboard, so
> you don't have to
> >retype anything, and each source is identical down
> to the very last
> >character - this is essential to prevent multiple
> copies of what
> >should be the same thing appearing in your report's
> source list.
> >
> >I've started doing this for things like census
> entries, too.  Saves
> >a lot of needless repetition!
> >
> >Hope this helps.  :-)
> >
> >Kind Regards,
> >Wendy Howard
> >--
> >Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand
> >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wendyh65/
>
>
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >*From:* Ralf X <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >*To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >*Sent:* 09/07/2007 10:58:59 AM +1200
> >*Subject:* [LegacyUG] birth, marriage and death
> Events?
> >
> >
> >>Do people create Events for birth, marriage, obits
> and
> >>death announcements? I've been transcribing them,
> but
> >>not sure where to have them appear (they look a
> little
> >>goofy as text with sources).
> >>
> >>And if yes, are they announcements or notices?
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>Ralf
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] birth, marriage and death Events?

[Ralf X]

Wendy and Cathy:

So, by putting it in the Source Detail Text you have
it show up in the Sources print out, correct?

Do you transcribe EVERYTHING into the Source Detail
Text? If yes, that must make for a super crazy long
Source print out? 

If no, what other Sources do you include in the text
to have print out?

Ralf

--- Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I also tend to put them in the Source Detail Text.
> However, if I want to highlight one for some reason,
> I put it in the 
> Notes for that event - Birth, Marriage or Death.
> I can't see the point of making another event for
> them.
> 
> Cathy
> 
> At 09:41 AM 7/09/2007, you wrote:
> 
> >An alternative would be to use your newspaper
> cutting as a source 
> >(which is what it is), and transcribe the text into
> the Detail Text 
> >tab in the Source Detail.  Don't forget to tick the
> box "Add this 
> >Text to the Source Citation on Reports".
> >
> >Then you can attach it to any item of data that
> relates to it, and 
> >the article will be printed just the once, in your
> sources at the 
> >end of the report.  Use the Source Clipboard, so
> you don't have to 
> >retype anything, and each source is identical down
> to the very last 
> >character - this is essential to prevent multiple
> copies of what 
> >should be the same thing appearing in your report's
> source list.
> >
> >I've started doing this for things like census
> entries, too.  Saves 
> >a lot of needless repetition!
> >
> >Hope this helps.  :-)
> >
> >Kind Regards,
> >Wendy Howard
> >--
> >Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand
> >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wendyh65/ 
>
>
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >*From:* Ralf X <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >*To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >*Sent:* 09/07/2007 10:58:59 AM +1200
> >*Subject:* [LegacyUG] birth, marriage and death
> Events?
> >
> >
> >>Do people create Events for birth, marriage, obits
> and
> >>death announcements? I've been transcribing them,
> but
> >>not sure where to have them appear (they look a
> little
> >>goofy as text with sources).
> >>
> >>And if yes, are they announcements or notices?
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>Ralf
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] birth, marriage and death Events?

[Cathy]

I also tend to put them in the Source Detail Text.
However, if I want to highlight one for some reason, I put it in the 
Notes for that event - Birth, Marriage or Death.

I can't see the point of making another event for them.

Cathy

At 09:41 AM 7/09/2007, you wrote:

An alternative would be to use your newspaper cutting as a source 
(which is what it is), and transcribe the text into the Detail Text 
tab in the Source Detail.  Don't forget to tick the box "Add this 
Text to the Source Citation on Reports".


Then you can attach it to any item of data that relates to it, and 
the article will be printed just the once, in your sources at the 
end of the report.  Use the Source Clipboard, so you don't have to 
retype anything, and each source is identical down to the very last 
character - this is essential to prevent multiple copies of what 
should be the same thing appearing in your report's source list.


I've started doing this for things like census entries, too.  Saves 
a lot of needless repetition!


Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
--
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http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wendyh65/ 



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Do people create Events for birth, marriage, obits and
death announcements? I've been transcribing them, but
not sure where to have them appear (they look a little
goofy as text with sources).

And if yes, are they announcements or notices?

Thanks,

Ralf





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Re: [LegacyUG] birth, marriage and death Events?

[Wendy Howard]

An alternative would be to use your newspaper cutting as a source (which 
is what it is), and transcribe the text into the Detail Text tab in the 
Source Detail.  Don't forget to tick the box "Add this Text to the 
Source Citation on Reports".


Then you can attach it to any item of data that relates to it, and the 
article will be printed just the once, in your sources at the end of the 
report.  Use the Source Clipboard, so you don't have to retype anything, 
and each source is identical down to the very last character - this is 
essential to prevent multiple copies of what should be the same thing 
appearing in your report's source list.


I've started doing this for things like census entries, too.  Saves a 
lot of needless repetition!


Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
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http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wendyh65/ 



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Do people create Events for birth, marriage, obits and
death announcements? I've been transcribing them, but
not sure where to have them appear (they look a little
goofy as text with sources).

And if yes, are they announcements or notices?

Thanks,

Ralf




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Re: [LegacyUG] How to List a Location

[ronald ferguson]

Pat,

I haven't seen one for all of Europe; in fact I cannot think of one that 
even gives the names of countries and their borders at different periods in 
our history.


Come to think of it I'm not even sure if there is one that accurately 
describes our own county boundaries at different times.


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Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:13:47 -0400

Is there a website for European, etc., countries that shows correct 
location names, depending on date?  (I feel sure there's not as it would be 
far too complicated -- ) but I suppose there could be some for particular 
areas --  e.g., the former Holy Roman Empire (that would be a challenge in 
itself). Does anyone know??


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[LegacyUG] birth, marriage and death Events?

[Ralf X]

Do people create Events for birth, marriage, obits and
death announcements? I've been transcribing them, but
not sure where to have them appear (they look a little
goofy as text with sources).

And if yes, are they announcements or notices?






Thanks,

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Re: [LegacyUG] How to List a Location

[Pat Hickin]

Is there a website for European, etc., countries that shows correct location 
names, depending on date?  (I feel sure there's not as it would be far too 
complicated -- ) but I suppose there could be some for particular areas --  
e.g., the former Holy Roman Empire (that would be a challenge in itself). 
Does anyone know??


Pat


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Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 4:37 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to List a Location


Keith,

I'm not sure if I can fully answer your question, but a couple of bits of
info that might help.

First, the umlaut in German is there to indicate a slight change of
pronunciation over the pure vowel. When the umlaut cannot be reproduced for
whatever reason the correct spelling is to add an 'e' after the vowel with
the umlaut. That means that your town should be spelt Büchig or Buechig.

If you speak German this site may be of use (and there are some photos at
the bottom of the page): http://ka.stadtwiki.net/B%C3%BCchig_%28Stutensee%29


This site implies that Buechig is a suburb (Stadtteil) of a town called
Blankenloch which in itself is a part of a greater town conglomeration
(Großen Kreisstadt) of Stutensee. This is within what we would probably call
in the UK the borough council area of Karlsruhe (Landkreis).

I didn't get the map out, but I am sure you will find a cluster of smaller
villages or towns around Stutensee, which is then the administrative
town/city for the area.

My vote for how to reference it would be:

Blankenloch (Buechig), Karlsruhe, Baden-Wuerttenburg, Germany

but of course it depends which time period you are talking about since
Germany didn't really exist as one entity until the end of the C19th (and of
course its borders have been redrawn several times since then). The addition
of Kahlsruhe and Germany to the above reference probably only make sense in
a C20th context, for instance.

Hope these thoughts help,
Claire


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Subject: [LegacyUG] How to List a Location

I have found that I have quite a number of ancesters from a location in
Germany. The location is Buchig (the U has an Umlaut) in Baden-Wurttemberg,
Germany (again with the Umlaut U). BUT the GeoLocation List in LEGACY does
not like that! When I examine the political structure of Germany - I find
that

Buchig is a DISTRICT in the
TOWN called Stutensee in a
COUNTY called Landkreis Karlsruhe Land in an
ADMINISTRATIVE DISTRICT called Nordbaden, Karlsruhe in a
FEDERAL STATE called Baden-Wurttemberg in the
COUNTRY of Germany.

Suggestions as to how to handle this mess??

Thanks
Keith


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Re: [LegacyUG] Question about sorting a tree

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

IMHO, I would go into dad's file and fix ALL the
locations at the same time. Then you needn't to worry
about forgetting. This should not change any sources
or event data. Rich in LA CA

--- Heather Stovold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am actually doing a similar tastk in some ways

>  I inherited a poorly
> sourced gedcom from my dad - and continued with it
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Re: [LegacyUG] Question about sorting a tree

[Heather Stovold]

I am actually doing a similar task in some ways   I inherited a poorly
sourced gedcom from my dad - and continued with it for quite a while.
Again, I generally didn't know who was who, although the set-relationships
helps.

So - I've been working on a brand new file - only adding in people as I get
some sort of source or documentation.  (ok, I generally move in a whole
family - so some people still aren't fully documented...)  - I use the
old file as clues on information only but when I find some info on the
family, I move the family over with the split-screen, and continue
researching and documenting them.  It isn't a fast process, but I know who
is who a lot better, and I'm more confident that the information is
accurate.   One minor problem is that I do have to keep checking stuff like
the Location List because each time I drag over a family the chances are
there is a difference in the formatting   but it is quicker than
retyping the people in!  and it only takes a few minutes, and usually I can
just merge the wrong formatted location into an existing correct location -
or occasionally change one that wasn't already in my file.

I feel that this would probably be better than having the huge file with
probably questionable information (as you got it from various online sources
of gedcoms) - and is easier to standardize.And I hate not having a
clue who anyone is in my file that to me isn't the main point of this
hobby (although people have different goals and oppinions.)Otherwise, I
generally agree with not having many different files for different
lines   This is different.   (and I wouldn't be bothering to update the
"research" huge database just look for clues in it!)




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[Heather Stovold]

I know you got a way to do it already - and I definately don't want to
continue this - but I think you can also put both people in as having an
"unknown" sex to get around it  I think I already played around with
this onceagain, it isn't perfect - but it is easier than using
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging to MRCA

[Heather Stovold]

I would think that for now, you might be best off using the relationship
chart anyway.

Run it for persons 1 and 2.  it will say that common ancestor is person
A

Run it for persons 1 and 3  maybe the common ancestor is person B

Run it for person 1 and 4 maybe the common ancestor is person A
again..

ok - so.

Run it for person A and B   ok let's say person B is person A's
grandfather.  then you are looking at person B so far being the closest
common ancestor

continue on using various combinations for a bit  I suspect that you
will keep getting common people coming up...  maybe a person C will show
up how is he related to person B? same for any others.I'd probably
personally try person 1 against each other person.  That certainly isn't all
the combinations - but you will probably see a pattern coming up on who is
coming up as the common ancestors!

After doing a few combinations - run a descendancy chart for the most likely
candidate.   (the new charting in V7 would be best for this - but use
what you have now) - are all the people tested that matched on his
decendancy???   If not - maybe run the chart for his father - and then
grandfather..  how about now?


Yes, it would be great if Legacy looked at your file with all the matches
and figured it out for you - but I figure that using the method I suggest,
you could probably figure it out in 30 minutes or so




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Re: [LegacyUG] Homosexual Entries

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RE: [LegacyUG] Homosexual Entries

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RE: [LegacyUG] Homosexual Entries

[Jay S Van Zeeland]

Please everyone, I did not mean to open the Pandora’s box, I was simply
looking for an answer to how to enter the data. I was not looking for a
forum as to whether we should include this data or not, or whether Legacy
should change. I personally believe that this is an excellent program and
have no interest in changing or shooting myself in the foot to go to a
different program simply because this entry was not readily apparent. 

 

I have found the answer that I was looking for. Could we please end this
thread?

 

For those who had their box filled with this becoming a forum on
homosexuality rather than a simple data entry request, I’m sorry!

 

Some programs don’t offer a ready way to show that my ancestor had brown
hair and blue eyes or a 44 inch chest, is that bad? Just because this is not
a check box, does not make things bad, just an obstacle to get around. If
there were no obstacles, there would not be a need to have a forum of this
type. 

 

As the originator of this thread, could I ask that we please end this one
now?

 

Jay

 

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In a message dated 9/6/2007 7:58:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Personal feelings about the morality or Homosexuality or other topics should
not impact the feature set of genealogy software.  Legacy has a place to
record divorce although some people feel is it wrong.  It records Wars
although some people feel they are immoral. It lets us record children born
out of wedlock.

 

Genealogy is a recording of history.  Homosexual relationships are a fact of
history and shape families.  That is what genealogy is about.  As such, when
it becomes clear that people need to record those facts, the software should
be expanded to offer that opportunity.  Pretending that facts of family
history didn’t happen because someone’s moral stance wishes it so is not the
way Software feature sets should be determined.

Divorces,Wars,Children born out of wedlock and Homosexuality are in the
Bible but Homosexuality is the only one that is said to be an abomination to
God.

This list is pushing too much for Homosexuality to be added to the program,
so I will be unsubscribing from this list and also deleting Legacy from my
computer and going back to using RootsMagic.

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Homosexual Entries ATTN: LLOYD

[TH]

Lloyf wasn't starting a thread, he was merely continuing a discussion of a
programmatic change that Legacy ought to make and , in doing so, merely
pointing out that some other items objectionable to others (perhaps
including you) are recognized in the the Legacy program.

TH
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>  This is *NOT* the forum or place to start a conversation thread such as
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> Pami
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Re: [LegacyUG] Homosexual Entries ATTN: LLOYD

[TaylorResearch4u]

This is NOT the forum or place to start a conversation  thread such as you 
are trying to start, Lloyd...
 
Pami
 
Main Lines:  TAYLOR, RICHARDS (Welsh), LIPPINCOTT, KIRKBRIDE and all related 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Homosexual Entries

[John Wilson]

I'm not bothered either way as I'm agnostic and it doesn't bother me 
but  I'd rather live next door to a homosexual couple who are honest and 
friendly than a heterosexual couple who are trouble makers any day.  So 
goodbye Lloyd and good riddance.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 9/6/2007 7:58:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Personal feelings about the morality or Homosexuality or other
topics should not impact the feature set of genealogy software. 
Legacy has a place to record divorce although some people feel is

it wrong.  It records Wars although some people feel they are
immoral. It lets us record children born out of wedlock.

 


Genealogy is a recording of history.  Homosexual relationships are
a fact of history and shape families.  That is what genealogy is
about.  As such, when it becomes clear that people need to record
those facts, the software should be expanded to offer that
opportunity.  Pretending that facts of family history didn’t
happen because someone’s moral stance wishes it so is not the way
Software feature sets should be determined.

Divorces,Wars,Children born out of wedlock and Homosexuality are in 
the Bible but Homosexuality is the only one that is said to be an 
abomination to God.
This list is pushing too much for Homosexuality to be added to the 
program, so I will be unsubscribing from this list and also deleting 
Legacy from my computer and going back to using RootsMagic.
 
Best Regards,


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Re: [LegacyUG] Homosexual Entries

[Lhite31]

 
 
In a message dated 9/6/2007 7:58:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Personal  feelings about the morality or Homosexuality or other topics should 
not impact  the feature set of genealogy software.  Legacy has a place to 
record  divorce although some people feel is it wrong.  It records Wars 
although  
some people feel they are immoral. It lets us record children born out of  
wedlock. 
Genealogy  is a recording of history.  Homosexual relationships are a fact of 
 history and shape families.  That is what genealogy is about.  As  such, 
when it becomes clear that people need to record those facts, the  software 
should be expanded to offer that opportunity.  Pretending that  facts of family 
history didn’t happen because someone’s moral stance wishes it  so is not the 
way Software feature sets should be  determined.


Divorces,Wars,Children born out of wedlock and Homosexuality are in  the 
Bible but Homosexuality is the only one that is said to be an abomination to  
God.
This list is pushing too much for Homosexuality to be added to the program,  
so I will be unsubscribing from this list and also deleting Legacy from my  
computer and going back to using RootsMagic.
 
Best  Regards,

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Re: [LegacyUG] How to make entire database available?

[Alice Hawrilenko]

"What do other people do about this?  I think we can put the database and a 
copy of Legacy on a terminal at a local library.  That would be ok for the 
locals.  Is there a way to put the database on a private website and make it 
navigable by users?"


You can upload your files to a personal website and password protect it if 
your ISP provider offers that capability. I have comcast and I can do that. 
An alternative might be myfamily.com. They offer personal websites for an 
annual fee which are also by invitation only and password protected. You 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Question about sorting a tree

[Dawn Crowley]

I'd start by selecting my daughter, then >  tools  >  set 
relationships.  This will identify relationships between your daughter 
and others in the database.


Another tool that I would use is setting bookmarks.  They are the 3 
boxes next to a book at the bottom left side of the screen.  Hover over 
the boxes to learn how to set them.  I find this helpful when I'm 
climbing around a particular branch and want to get back to my starting 
point readily.


As for "eating" this "elephant", I would start doing research to begin 
documenting a line.  I would start by documenting my descendants, then 
myself, and then move to ancestors.  This is info that most folks 
generally know, therefore, they don't document it.  Your descendants 
will be interested in documented data, just as you are.  Then move 
toward your ancestors and begin to document their lives.  That will help 
you know these folks and determine the validity of your existing data.  
It will also help prevent you from researching incorrect lines that 
others may have connected in those downloaded GedComs.


Dawn

Pete McDonald wrote:

I wanted to see if there was someone who may be able to help me get 
some idea of where to start with Legacy.  I have used PAF for quite a 
few years.  There was a time when I gathered a lot of GED files from 
the internet and connected them to my family stuff that I had, and now 
I have over 10,000 people. 
 
The master list seemed like a good idea to start with, trying to 
consolidate locations that were spelled or abbreviated.  Then I have 
been toying with the idea of trying to go up in a family tree from my 
daughter to the top of the ancestry tree on all of her ancestral 
lines, thus getting a good inventory on who is in mine and my wife's 
family tree who are direct ancestors.  I was thinking of going for an 
approach where I take my daughter's family, meaning my wife and I as 
parents and her as child with her siblings, none of whom are married. 
The next level up, I wanted the family my wife and I grew up in 
respectively with our siblings, and the siblings spouses, but no 
children.   Then, following that same pattern all the way up, where I 
have the families with her direct ancestor in, first as a parent with 
children and those children's spouses with no children, and later the 
same direct ancestor as a child with their siblings with the siblings 
spouses, but no children. 
 
Then, it would give me the possibility of having a chance to see out 
of those 10,000+ people, who are direct ancestors. 
 
Then, I thoughtThis would be neat to really work hard on this 
newly formed streamlined group of people, get all the master list 
sorted out and cleaned up, get stuff recorded, etc.  But, then it 
occured to me...what if I wanted to put all of this stuff back into 
the original huge file again...And have two files, one of the direct 
line, and one with more of the branches?  Would that be a hassle or a 
simple match/merge process as long as dates of birth, parents or other 
important information coordinated?  
 
So, I just have two questions really:
Does this approach seem to have merit, trying to get a direct line of 
ancestors?
Is there an easy way to generate this file and will it be easy after I 
add information to it, to put it back with the larger file?
 
I guess that's three questions. 
 
Thanks so much for any help or input.  Pete


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RE: [LegacyUG] How to make entire database available?

[Jay S Van Zeeland]

If your goal is to have living members of various families view and correct
data, You can do it through a web site that with a little work can be
password protected and placed in folders under a domain that are much harder
(although not impossible) for search engines to list.

 

I wouldn’t do this through the big genealogy sites, but if you were to talk
to your local Internet Service Provider, they could probably set you up with
a web site pretty inexpensive and password protect.

 

Have legacy make a web page of your entire file and copy that to a CD and
bring it with you to the provider, they can transfer the data to the new
website.

 

>From there just let those that you want to see have the address and
password.

 

Jay

 

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Subject: [LegacyUG] How to make entire database available? 

 

We have only 10 or 12 generations going back 200 years.  After thinking
about it, I realize now that the Descendants Book Report is including just
direct descendants of the earliest guy and isn't including the parents of
the in-laws and all their ancestors and relatives.  These would constitute
separate lines (insert head-slap here).   So only about half of the people
in the database are showing up in the report.  

 

I would speculate that the only way to print the entire database is to know
the earliest person of all the lines of descent and then doing a Multiple
Lines of Descent report.  Is this the case?  That's not going to be possible
for my file because there are going to be so many  lines.  There probably
isn't any way to organize such a mass for printing.

 

On the one hand, I want to get as much info out to the family as possible
for error-checking.  On the other hand, I know we have so many errors that I
don't want to mix our data in with publicly accessible databases such as
Ancestry.com.  

 

What do other people do about this?  I think we can put the database and a
copy of Legacy on a terminal at a local library.  That would be ok for the
locals.  Is there a way to put the database on a private website and make it
navigable by users?  

 

 





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RE: [LegacyUG] Homosexual Entries

[Eric W. Galloway]

Personal feelings about the morality or Homosexuality or other topics
should not impact the feature set of genealogy software.  Legacy has a
place to record divorce although some people feel is it wrong.  It
records Wars although some people feel they are immoral. It lets us
record children born out of wedlock.

 

Genealogy is a recording of history.  Homosexual relationships are a
fact of history and shape families.  That is what genealogy is about.
As such, when it becomes clear that people need to record those facts,
the software should be expanded to offer that opportunity.  Pretending
that facts of family history didn't happen because someone's moral
stance wishes it so is not the way Software feature sets should be
determined.

 

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Homosexual Entries

 

In a message dated 9/5/2007 10:18:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Legacy ought to get with it, as should other genealogy programs,
if we have to trick the system to record the ways things are.

 

TH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Legacy does not need to change, it is the homosexual's that need to
change. 

 

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RE: [LegacyUG] Homosexual Entries

[Jan Roberts]

You can always generate any reports as RTF and edit the incorrect words,
such as 'daughter of'.

Cheers,
Jan
 
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Hi Jay,

Currently there isn't a way to enter a homosexual relationship 
properly as the structure of the database assumes that all unions are 
male/female.

You can include the partner with the wrong gender and adjust the 
wording in the "marriage" screen to fit. It will look OK in most 
reports that don't stop to report whether a "spouse" is male or 
female. You'll have a problem if you include his parents as he'll be 
reported as "daughter of" so it would be better to include them in 
the Marriage Notes or an Event.
 

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RE: [LegacyUG] How to source pictures?

[ronald ferguson]

Kathie,

I haven't found a way to do that. Where i have needed to add a "source" for 
a picture on my website I have manually inserted it. Usually this has been 
"sourced" to acknowledge a copyright which isn't mine. Similarly if I had to 
do this in a written report I would use Open Office (Word also).


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Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:30:21 -0600

Thanks, Ron. I was hoping there was some way to source them with a footnote
but I guess I can't.

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>
>
> Kathie,
>
> Normally one would source the event to which it was attached
> but if you mean
> identify the originator of eg a photograph then this could be
> entered in the
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Re: [LegacyUG] Homosexual Entries

[Mike Fry]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 9/5/2007 10:18:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Legacy ought to get with it, as should other genealogy programs, if
we have to trick the system to record the ways things are.
 
TH

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Legacy does not need to change, it is the homosexual's that need to change. 
 
Best Regards,


Lloyd


No Lloyd! It's the religious bigots that have to change! Do learn to 
stay on topic.


Legacy is primarily about keeping a genealogical database. Homosexual 
partnerships, by definition, have nothing to do with genealogy and the 
continuation of bloodlines.


Family History is something else and is applicable to these same-sex 
unions. As we users ask for, and get, more changes, Legacy is slowly 
moving towards becoming a Family History product rather than a more 
restrictive Genealogy product. But, it will take time.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Homosexual Entries

[Lhite31]

 
 
In a message dated 9/5/2007 10:18:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Legacy ought to get with it, as should other genealogy programs, if we  have 
to trick the system to record the ways things are.
 
TH
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) 


Legacy does not need to change, it is the homosexual's that need to  change. 

 
Best  Regards,

Lloyd



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Re: [LegacyUG] Question about sorting a tree

[Cathy]

Hi Pete,

Legacy has a number of tools that make it easier to clean up a file. 
You seem to have found the Location Master List.


The question is, whether to persist in cleaning up your current large 
file or start again with a subset of your file.
It sounds like you have a fairly large file that is probably badly 
sourced and not verified. If that is so, I'd use it simply as clues 
rather than planning to merge your new work back into it.


So starting with the direct ancestors of your children is a great idea.

To separate the people you want.
Go to your daughter and tag her Direct Line Ancestors - not her 
Entire Ancestor line. Note that you can choose to include siblings. 
This will pick up your siblings and your grandmother's siblings etc 
but not hers so you'll need to tag them as well on the same tag number.


Then Export to a new Legacy file this tagged group. Note that in the 
export you can add some other people.


When you have this new file cleaned up with consistent entry of 
names, locations, dates, and sourced so that each link is verified 
you could bring in another group from the old file or export them to 
another new file and do the cleanup there before merging with your 
new clean file.


Note you can also move people from one database to another by using 
the Split Screen View and dragging an individual or an individual 
with their family or descendants etc.


If your current large file isn't as dubious as it sounds (I have a 
poor opinion of gedcoms found online but some are excellent and you 
may have been careful and checked them out before incorporating them 
in your tree), then you can either just persist with cleaning up your 
large file - using tagging to keep track of the group you're working 
on - or use Intellishare to merge back in groups you export out to 
work on independently.


Learn to use the Source Clipboard. It can be dangerous if you do too 
much clicking without thinking (or use more than the front tab) but 
it's a great time saver and tool to standardise entry.
Even more powerful tool to catch up with sourcing is Advanced 
Sourcing. I don't touch it as I source as I enter data and think it's 
too easy to attach sources to the wrong information - however, if I 
had a large unsourced file, I'd learn to use it judiciously.


After all that you probably have 6 more questions rather than the 3 
you started with ;-)


Cathy



At 01:42 PM 6/09/2007, you wrote:

I wanted to see if there was someone who may be able to help me get 
some idea of where to start with Legacy.  I have used PAF for quite 
a few years.  There was a time when I gathered a lot of GED files 
from the internet and connected them to my family stuff that I had, 
and now I have over 10,000 people.


The master list seemed like a good idea to start with, trying to 
consolidate locations that were spelled or abbreviated.  Then I have 
been toying with the idea of trying to go up in a family tree from 
my daughter to the top of the ancestry tree on all of her ancestral 
lines, thus getting a good inventory on who is in mine and my wife's 
family tree who are direct ancestors.  I was thinking of going for 
an approach where I take my daughter's family, meaning my wife and I 
as parents and her as child with her siblings, none of whom are 
married. The next level up, I wanted the family my wife and I grew 
up in respectively with our siblings, and the siblings spouses, but 
no children.   Then, following that same pattern all the way up, 
where I have the families with her direct ancestor in, first as a 
parent with children and those children's spouses with no children, 
and later the same direct ancestor as a child with their siblings 
with the siblings spouses, but no children.


Then, it would give me the possibility of having a chance to see out 
of those 10,000+ people, who are direct ancestors.


Then, I thoughtThis would be neat to really work hard on this 
newly formed streamlined group of people, get all the master list 
sorted out and cleaned up, get stuff recorded, etc.  But, then it 
occured to me...what if I wanted to put all of this stuff back into 
the original huge file again...And have two files, one of the direct 
line, and one with more of the branches?  Would that be a hassle or 
a simple match/merge process as long as dates of birth, parents or 
other important information coordinated?


So, I just have two questions really:
Does this approach seem to have merit, trying to get a direct line 
of ancestors?
Is there an easy way to generate this file and will it be easy after 
I add information to it, to put it back with the larger file?


I guess that's three questions.

Thanks so much for any help or input.  Pete





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Re: [LegacyUG] Question about sorting a tree

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Paul,

"what if I wanted to put all of this stuff back into the original huge 
file again...And have two files, one of the direct line, and one with 
more of the branches?  Would that be a hassle or a simple match/merge 
process as long as dates of birth, parents or other important 
information coordinated?"


If it was me, I would keep one large file as my database.  If I then 
wanted to carve off a section of it for sharing with someone else, there 
are ways to do that.


Keeping the database together will help prevent omissions when you're 
updating a person who appeared in more than one file - very easy to 
forget when you're in the middle of things!  And how often have we all 
found that one branch of the family intersects with another that we 
didn't know about before?  If they're in separate files, you might miss 
that connection.


Right this minute, I'm not practising what I preach, LOL!!  I've got my 
partner's family in a separate database to my family, but I'm working on 
combining them.  I would be *very* surprised if I found a connection 
between his family and mine (though I learned by chance at the weekend 
that his former boss's grandparents were friends with my grandparents!), 
but it will help with keeping the master lists (locations, sources, etc) 
consistent.  Already I get frustrated with how I've entered the same 
thing in two different ways in the two files, so I'm looking forward to 
getting that sorted.


Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
--
Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wendyh65/ 





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Re: [LegacyUG] How to make entire database available?

[Cathy]

When you say parents of the in-laws and all their ancestors and 
relatives - do you mean all your other direct ancestors and their 
descendants or do you mean your eg your aunt by marriage's parents 
and ancestors?


If the former, then do a Multiple Lines of Descent book including the 
descent from each of your earliest ancestor pairs. You can see them 
easily enough by following back the arrows in the Pedigree View or 
print yourself an Ancestor or Pedigree Chart.


For those who are marrying into your blood relatives, it's normal to 
include their parents but not the rest of their family in a 
descendant report. So if you mean those lines - like I have my 
brother-in-laws ancestors etc in my tree - they won't show in that 
kind of report.


Re websites, I know you can put your tree on the internet and have it 
accessible only to those with the correct password but I can't recall 
where and how. Someone else will know.


Cathy


At 02:39 PM 6/09/2007, you wrote:

We have only 10 or 12 generations going back 200 years.  After 
thinking about it, I realize now that the Descendants Book Report is 
including just direct descendants of the earliest guy and isn't 
including the parents of the in-laws and all their ancestors and 
relatives.  These would constitute separate lines (insert head-slap 
here).   So only about half of the people in the database are 
showing up in the report.


I would speculate that the only way to print the entire database is 
to know the earliest person of all the lines of descent and then 
doing a Multiple Lines of Descent report.  Is this the case?  That's 
not going to be possible for my file because there are going to be 
so many  lines.  There probably isn't any way to organize such a 
mass for printing.


On the one hand, I want to get as much info out to the family as 
possible for error-checking.  On the other hand, I know we have so 
many errors that I don't want to mix our data in with publicly 
accessible databases such as Ancestry.com.


What do other people do about this?  I think we can put the database 
and a copy of Legacy on a terminal at a local library.  That would 
be ok for the locals.  Is there a way to put the database on a 
private website and make it navigable by users?





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Re: [LegacyUG] Alternate Names in Index?

[Cathy]

Hi,

You are talking about two different things in Legacy.
AKAs are put in the special AKA section - there's an icon on both 
Family View and the Individual Information window.


Nicknames, if you want them used in Narratives, must be put in as 
"quoted names"


Quoted Names are not currently listed in the index. AKAs are if you 
choose to have them entered in the report.


I use Quoted Names extensively as for most of my mother's family they 
were always known by their nickname or second or third given name. To 
have that as an "also known as" is a nonsense. The name they were 
known by needs to be used in narrative wherever [FirstName] is used.


However, if you want it in the index, you have to also enter it as an 
AKA or we need to ask to have them also included in the index. I 
haven't thought of that.


As you say, it's there any way unless you use the Format option to 
remove quoted names.


Cheers,
Cathy

At 02:14 PM 6/09/2007, you wrote:

I checked the appropriate options, but it still doesn't work as far 
as I can tell.  I guessed that checking this option would give the 
person's full name as one entry and his nick-name as another 
entry.  The narrative in the report gives the alternate name, but 
the index doesn't.



Do people commonly put the nick-names in quotation marks in with the 
given names?  If I do it that way, then at least the index will show 
the nick-name along with the full name.





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