Re: [LegacyUG] Pocket Genealogist 3.0
Hi Guys, I don't know if I'm sending this to the people, but I've been following this Legacy site for some time now. I purchased the Legacy Genealogy Software alone with many other companion soft wares awhile ago. I also purchased the Pocket Genealogist thinking i would get the palm PC and software to boot, was I surprised. I was told to download the software to the Pocket Genealogist, but were was it. OK, to make a long story short I got the download Pocket Genealogist software still sitting on my laptop and the Palm Life drive sitting somewhere. I tried connecting the Palm to my laptop, it loaded but never completed the installment. My laptop hung, I couldn't get onto the internet for help, after pulling out all the cords, wires and shutting down I haven't tried again. I know this will take time to master, but I'm going to Fort Wayne next week and SLC, Utah in December. I wanted to take the PG with me. If anyone know how to connect the dots please help me. Jan PS: Since then I even purchased a new Laptop, now I'm trying to copy everything from one laptop to the other, crying in Chicago. Robert Carneal USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, Jim, Pocket Genealogist is a Pocket Windows system application. Pocket Genealogist *is* a great application; I take it everywhere. You probably have this already, but if not, here is the Pocket Genealogist website (Northern Hills). http://northernhillssoftware.com/ Tech support for Pocket Genealogist is wonderful, usually very fast turn around, and they stick with you until the problem is solved. Robert Jim Keener wrote: Does anyone know if Pocket Genealogist 3.0 works with a Palm Operating System, or is this product only for Pocket PC system? If so, is the Gedstar Pro simply a lower priced product? I've made handheld software purchases before, only to be disappointed later. I have a Palm Lifedrive and the Pocket Genealogist 3.0 looks great. Thanks, Jim Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] attaching .pdf files instead of photo
Pat, Broadly speaking your procedure seems to be correct. Where the pdf file is does, of course, depend on where you have put it - which may not be in All Files, but as long as you find it in the panel on Legacy that doesn't matter. If you cannot get it to work using sound then you may like to try using video as both/either should work. The picture of the sound icon only indicates that the pdf has not been recognised. If neither work (or in any event) you may like to try using FileFile MaintenanceCheck/Repair. One last thought is that there could be a problem with the pdf, do you know how it was made (ie by which program) and does it open OK in Adobe Reader? Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: Pat Hickin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUG LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] attaching .pdf files instead of photo Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:46:35 -0400 I am very confused. I thought we were supposed to attach a .pdf file (as opposed to a picture) in Legacy in the following manner. Save the .pdf to a folder. In Legacy click on the picture iconclick on Sound Browse to the folder that has the .pdf file To find it, click on All files Open it Fill in Legacy caption info etc. click OK It displays a picture that says Sound!! So how do I vision the .pdf?? Am I utterly confused? -- Pat _ Can you see your house from the sky? Try Live Search Maps http://maps.live.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] a couple of frustrations - Tool tips not sticking and etc
June, Re both emails. Sounds like you are having some problems with your files. I'd try FileFile MaintenanceCheck/Repair and see if that helps. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: June McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] a couple of frustrations - Tool tips not sticking and etc Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:57:56 +1000 While I am in an asking mood abt things not sticking, could sks also tell me why, frequently, my Display Tool Tips (from the General page of Customise) don't stick. I have the option checked. It sticks for a while and then it has gone agn. It is nothing to do with closing and opening Legacy because it happens when it has been open for a while. Another question along these lines. So often, more often that not, when I close Legacy it comes up with 'Programme Not Responding' and I have to go thru all that rigmarole. They both have been like it since the beginning of my installing V6 and because I have been able to live with them I have never got around to asking abt it. I had intended to wait until V7 comes out to see if it would make any difference but today ,apparently, my patience has run out!! Many tks for any help. --- June McDonald Canberra, the nation's capital _ Got a favourite clothes shop, bar or restaurant? Share your local knowledge http://www.backofmyhand.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] How to enter English Locations
Hi Everyone, This might be a question of those at are familiar with English research. I am currently editing and sorting out my Location master list. I was wondering if there is a standard way (but not to rigid) way for entering English locations. For example do I enter Walworth, Surrey as Walworth, Surrey, UK or as Walworth, Surrey, England, UK. Thanks Anne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] To be a Lumper or a Splitter
Thank you to everyone for your discussions on the above topic. I have found out a lot and it is wonderful that Legacy is so flexible that it can meet everyone's needs although we may do things differently. I am basicly a lumper but split sources when I feel that it is necessary. I have been busy reading and watching the information on sourcing on the Legacy website, also checked out what other genealogy websites had to say on the matter. I will soon start sorting out my sources so that they are better organised and are more uniform in the way I enter the information. Regards Anne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter English Locations
I would write Walworth, Surrey because I live in Surrey, but Walworth, Surrey, England would be the right one I think. UK is a difficult idea since it covers Northern Ireland from 1922, Ireland as a whole from 1807 to 1922, and doesn't exist before then. Great Britain dates from the Act of Union between England and Scotland in 1707, although, to be really pedantic, Scotland was then called North Britain and England South Britain (it didn't catch on). If you ask the average Londoner where they live it would be England not the United Kingdom or Great Britain and I don't think there are many people, even world wide who have heard of the United Kingdom but have never heard of England. Hope this helps John Clare On 14/09/2007, The Eccles Family [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, This might be a question of those at are familiar with English research. I am currently editing and sorting out my Location master list. I was wondering if there is a standard way (but not to rigid) way for entering English locations. For example do I enter Walworth, Surrey as Walworth, Surrey, UK or as Walworth, Surrey, England, UK. Thanks Anne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] How to enter English Locations
I agree with that, the one to avoid is the American style of writing Walworth, Surrey County, England or Walworth, County Surrey, England. With a couple of exceptions (as always), the word county is not written in the address. Martin Briscoe Fort William MLFHS | Gwynedd FHS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Eccles Family Sent: 14 September 2007 10:24 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] How to enter English Locations Hi Everyone, This might be a question of those at are familiar with English research. I am currently editing and sorting out my Location master list. I was wondering if there is a standard way (but not to rigid) way for entering English locations. For example do I enter Walworth, Surrey as Walworth, Surrey, UK or as Walworth, Surrey, England, UK. Thanks Anne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] a couple of frustrations - Tool tips not sticking and etc
Tks Ron, but yes, I have done that several times but it has never made any difference to either of the frustrations.. I guess I should get on to the tech support folk. June - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 6:40 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] a couple of frustrations - Tool tips not sticking and etc June, Re both emails. Sounds like you are having some problems with your files. I'd try FileFile MaintenanceCheck/Repair and see if that helps. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: June McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] a couple of frustrations - Tool tips not sticking and etc Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:57:56 +1000 While I am in an asking mood abt things not sticking, could sks also tell me why, frequently, my Display Tool Tips (from the General page of Customise) don't stick. I have the option checked. It sticks for a while and then it has gone agn. It is nothing to do with closing and opening Legacy because it happens when it has been open for a while. Another question along these lines. So often, more often that not, when I close Legacy it comes up with 'Programme Not Responding' and I have to go thru all that rigmarole. They both have been like it since the beginning of my installing V6 and because I have been able to live with them I have never got around to asking abt it. I had intended to wait until V7 comes out to see if it would make any difference but today ,apparently, my patience has run out!! Many tks for any help. --- June McDonald Canberra, the nation's capital Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] How to enter English Locations
Anne, As John says, you are correct but over here we do not use UK. The UK comprises Great Britain and Northern Ireland (today - at one time all Ireland) Great Britain comprises England, Scotland and Wales. We don't use Great Britain in addresses either, only the country in which the place is situated. The standard location fields as used in the USA do not work for us, even though Legacy and other programs try to force comliance. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: The Eccles Family [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] How to enter English Locations Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 19:23:45 +1000 Hi Everyone, This might be a question of those at are familiar with English research. I am currently editing and sorting out my Location master list. I was wondering if there is a standard way (but not to rigid) way for entering English locations. For example do I enter Walworth, Surrey as Walworth, Surrey, UK or as Walworth, Surrey, England, UK. Thanks Anne _ Got a favourite clothes shop, bar or restaurant? Share your local knowledge http://www.backofmyhand.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Pocket Genealogist 3.0
Jan, Pocket Genealogist won't work with a Palm Life Drive. The Palm Life Drive is a Palm Operating system based device, and Pocket Genealogist needs the Windows Mobile Operating system. (Which explains why you are having install problems!) Kevin From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Wilson Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 2:38 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pocket Genealogist 3.0 Hi Guys, I don't know if I'm sending this to the people, but I've been following this Legacy site for some time now. I purchased the Legacy Genealogy Software alone with many other companion soft wares awhile ago. I also purchased the Pocket Genealogist thinking i would get the palm PC and software to boot, was I surprised. I was told to download the software to the Pocket Genealogist, but were was it. OK, to make a long story short I got the download Pocket Genealogist software still sitting on my laptop and the Palm Life drive sitting somewhere. I tried connecting the Palm to my laptop, it loaded but never completed the installment. My laptop hung, I couldn't get onto the internet for help, after pulling out all the cords, wires and shutting down I haven't tried again. I know this will take time to master, but I'm going to Fort Wayne next week and SLC, Utah in December. I wanted to take the PG with me. If anyone know how to connect the dots please help me. Jan PS: Since then I even purchased a new Laptop, now I'm trying to copy everything from one laptop to the other, crying in Chicago. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter English Locations
The Eccles Family wrote This might be a question of those at are familiar with English research. I am currently editing and sorting out my Location master list. I was wondering if there is a standard way (but not to rigid) way for entering English locations. For example do I enter Walworth, Surrey as Walworth, Surrey, UK or as Walworth, Surrey, England, UK. Personally, I don't use UK or United Kingdom at all in my database. I use Walworth, Surrey, England. Incidentally, there has been so much moving of county boundaries in the UK that things can get seriously confusing, especially around London, but the following websites can be useful: http://www.genealogyinengland.com/Information/londonboroughs.htm http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~jimella/counties.htm -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Alternate Names in Index? - Problem solved...
Relieved in Atlanta, I think that's a very good idea (automatically inserting the surname for AKAs). I've had problems with how some AKAs look, until i figured I had to put both names in. Regards, Dermot. On 13/09/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip My 2 cents to Legacy is to re-do the Alternate Names box to automatically insert the last name into the surname blank like you do in the family records. The user would still have the ability to over-write it, but 99% of the time he wouldn't need to. And Assumers like me wouldn't pull their hair out. sign me RELIEVED IN ATLANTA (now I can get these tomes printed in time for the family reunion next weekend.) /snip Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship
Wendy, You think you have it bad? I have (to the best of my knowledge) 44 first cousins, many of whom are married with children (some even have married children of their own!) Imagine trying to record all of them!! Regards, Dermot. On 13/09/2007, Wendy Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I don't normally record that end of the family, ie the kids of my own first cousins. Mostly 'cos I don't know the details, so it's good to make a start with this one - it may encourage my aunt to sit down and write out the various names of her line - I can't remember the names of my cousin's six kids, let alone the four father's names, LOL!! /snip Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter English Locations
Jenny, Odd that you refer to the UK in your response, but you don't use the United Kingdom in database. Why is that? On 9/14/07, Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Eccles Family wrote This might be a question of those at are familiar with English research. I am currently editing and sorting out my Location master list. I was wondering if there is a standard way (but not to rigid) way for entering English locations. For example do I enter Walworth, Surrey as Walworth, Surrey, UK or as Walworth, Surrey, England, UK. Personally, I don't use UK or United Kingdom at all in my database. I use Walworth, Surrey, England. Incidentally, there has been so much moving of county boundaries in the UK that things can get seriously confusing, especially around London, but the following websites can be useful: http://www.genealogyinengland.com/Information/londonboroughs.htm http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~jimella/counties.htm -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Thad Evotee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] How to enter English Locations
I presume it was because county boundaries have changed in England, Scotland and Wales. I always use the traditional county names except for modern events when I might use the modern name but not always - as far as I cam concerned my home town of Bolton is still in Lancashire! Martin Briscoe Fort William MLFHS | Gwynedd FHS _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TH Sent: 14 September 2007 12:48 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter English Locations Jenny, Odd that you refer to the UK in your response, but you don't use the United Kingdom in database. Why is that? On 9/14/07, Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Eccles Family wrote This might be a question of those at are familiar with English research. I am currently editing and sorting out my Location master list. I was wondering if there is a standard way (but not to rigid) way for entering English locations. For example do I enter Walworth, Surrey as Walworth, Surrey, UK or as Walworth, Surrey, England, UK. Personally, I don't use UK or United Kingdom at all in my database. I use Walworth, Surrey, England. .com/LegacyLists.asp http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Alternate Names in Index? - Problem solved...
I asked some years ago for an *OPTION* to automatically insert a wife's married name preceded my Mrs in the AKA field because I always try to do this as it often helps find someone found in a census or on a grave headstone etc. There were lots of objections from people because some countries don't have a married name, some wives don't use their husbands name etc. But I did quite clearly say that I wanted an option which could be ignored by those not wanting to use it. Martin Briscoe Fort William MLFHS | Gwynedd FHS From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 September 2007 02:52 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Alternate Names in Index? - Problem solved... ...and I can't be the tail that wags the dog, but I'd make a small change to the Alternate Names box format. See below. Before, I was working with a huge file that printed 400+ pages. So I never paged through the whole Index. This time I tried a much smaller file and noticed for the first time that all of my alternate names were being dumped at the start of the Index under '(no surname).' I hadn't been putting a surname in the Alternate Name box. I had assumed that the alternate name box was for nicknames and that the nickname would be naturally associated with the surname. It didn't occur to me that someone could have an alternate surname, but now that it's been called to my attention, I can think of an example where it could be used -- people with hyphenated names probably want to list their surnames more than one way. Thanks to all who replied to my query. My 2 cents to Legacy is to re-do the Alternate Names box to automatically insert the last name into the surname blank like you do in the family records. The user would still have the ability to over-write it, but 99% of the time he wouldn't need to. And Assumers like me wouldn't pull their hair out. sign me RELIEVED IN ATLANTA (now I can get these tomes printed in time for the family reunion next weekend.) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter English Locations
TH wrote Odd that you refer to the UK in your response, but you don't use the United Kingdom in database. Why is that? Because where I said that I use England in my database, I could have expanded to say that where appropriate I also use Scotland, Wales etc and where I was referring to the county reorganisation I was referring not just to England but to all constituent countries. (Although to be honest, I don't know whether or not there has been rearrangement of Northern Irish counties since the formation of the UK.) -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter English Locations
Jenny, What I meant by my question was why you don't recognize The United Kingdom in your database. I recognize the USA in mine. On 9/14/07, Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TH wrote Odd that you refer to the UK in your response, but you don't use the United Kingdom in database. Why is that? Because where I said that I use England in my database, I could have expanded to say that where appropriate I also use Scotland, Wales etc and where I was referring to the county reorganisation I was referring not just to England but to all constituent countries. (Although to be honest, I don't know whether or not there has been rearrangement of Northern Irish counties since the formation of the UK.) -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Thad Evotee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Pocket Genealogist 3.0
One of the main reasons I keep my Axim x51v is so I can use Pocket Genealogist on it, works nicely with a VGA screen :) I'd love a Palm version but I think that'd take too much work to make it worth while considering Palms current market share. On 9/14/07, Kevin R. Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan, Pocket Genealogist won't work with a Palm Life Drive. The Palm Life Drive is a Palm Operating system based device, and Pocket Genealogist needs the Windows Mobile Operating system. (Which explains why you are having install problems!) -- Simon Dick Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] How to enter details of adopted children
Following a few e-mails regarding how (in Legacy) to deal with adopted children and those with more than one set of parents, I've had a look at a few in my records. I've got one person who was given up for adoption at birth. He is listed on ym database under his adopted name, with the name his birth mother gave him (his first name and her surname) listed as an AKA. This person is still alive as is his birth mother, they have made contact about 7 years ago, but she, and the rest of her family (which includes me!), now call him by his adopted name rather than the name given to him at birth. I'm just wondering how others on this list would deal with a situation like this, i.e., which name you would list as the correct name and which as an AKA, and the reasons why you would do this. Regards, Dermot. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter English Locations
Because the UK is not a country. As I said in my previous post it's proper name is The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: TH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter English Locations Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 08:39:17 -0400 Jenny, What I meant by my question was why you don't recognize The United Kingdom in your database. I recognize the USA in mine. On 9/14/07, Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TH wrote Odd that you refer to the UK in your response, but you don't use the United Kingdom in database. Why is that? Because where I said that I use England in my database, I could have expanded to say that where appropriate I also use Scotland, Wales etc and where I was referring to the county reorganisation I was referring not just to England but to all constituent countries. (Although to be honest, I don't know whether or not there has been rearrangement of Northern Irish counties since the formation of the UK.) -- Jenny M Benson _ The next generation of Hotmail is here! http://www.newhotmail.co.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Re: Gedcom Export
still looking for help customizing gedcom export.? doesnt legacy allow export of all events? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 5:33 am Subject: Gedcom Export I just tried adding URL event to a few people with myspace pages.? After a few failed attempts to review the results on my TNG site I discovered that the URL event is not exported.? The customize list for the export function does not include the URL event and several others in the options to be included on export.? how can this be changed? Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] How to enter details of adopted children
Dermot, It rather depends on what the person (if alive) would wish. Generally I would use the birth name as the proper name and the adopted (or step) name as the AKA. Years ago, of course, UK adoption in the legal sense was not common and one would see adopted kids using their birth name when on their marriage papers. I would have no problems doing it the other way round (and do) and in both cases I make notes to say what the position actually is. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: Dermot McGlone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] How to enter details of adopted children Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:07:04 +0100 Following a few e-mails regarding how (in Legacy) to deal with adopted children and those with more than one set of parents, I've had a look at a few in my records. I've got one person who was given up for adoption at birth. He is listed on ym database under his adopted name, with the name his birth mother gave him (his first name and her surname) listed as an AKA. This person is still alive as is his birth mother, they have made contact about 7 years ago, but she, and the rest of her family (which includes me!), now call him by his adopted name rather than the name given to him at birth. I'm just wondering how others on this list would deal with a situation like this, i.e., which name you would list as the correct name and which as an AKA, and the reasons why you would do this. Regards, Dermot. _ The next generation of Hotmail is here! http://www.newhotmail.co.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Chart printing
Generations had it, Reunion has it. I haven't seen FTM, a couple of others have it, but it is clunky and difficult to customise. It is the chart I use the most. Foxy Original Message Follows For a Family Reunion's it's great to be able to print an All-In-One Chart which contains a subset of your complete database. First create a gedcom which is a subset of your database. (This is the hardest part, selecting the right multiple ancestors, and selecting them and their descendants.) Then use Genbox or Family Tree Maker to create a tree with everyone included. An All-In-One Chart It's great to see a tree of ancestors for those attending a family reunion. I like the idea of creating a tree based on blood relatives, it would sure be less painful than the process I go through now. A Tree Chart of Blood Relatives would probably be used more often than the All In One Charts. I don't think I've seen a Tree Chart of Blood Relatives in anyone's product out there yet, does anyone know if anyone has done this? _ Advertisement: See what's Hot in new Live Hotmail http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=clickclientID=810referral=HotmailtaglineURL=http://www.livehotmail.ninemsn.com.au/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother
On 9/14/07, Ron Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What Legacy needs is a flag in the marriage record to indicate that children are connected to only one parent and will never be connected to 2 parents because the second parent is not unknown but never existed. Maybe I'm being pedantic g but every child has two parents. They existed, although their names may never be known. -- Mary Young Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Chart printing
I have kept my Generations precisely for the Charting. No one has come close to the ease of use of this program. I just wish it was a part of Legacy. It isn't, which is a shame. Roger From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Chart printing Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:44:53 +1000 Generations had it, Reunion has it. I haven't seen FTM, a couple of others have it, but it is clunky and difficult to customise. It is the chart I use the most. Foxy Original Message Follows For a Family Reunion's it's great to be able to print an All-In-One Chart which contains a subset of your complete database. First create a gedcom which is a subset of your database. (This is the hardest part, selecting the right multiple ancestors, and selecting them and their descendants.) Then use Genbox or Family Tree Maker to create a tree with everyone included. An All-In-One Chart It's great to see a tree of ancestors for those attending a family reunion. I like the idea of creating a tree based on blood relatives, it would sure be less painful than the process I go through now. A Tree Chart of Blood Relatives would probably be used more often than the All In One Charts. I don't think I've seen a Tree Chart of Blood Relatives in anyone's product out there yet, does anyone know if anyone has done this? _ Advertisement: See what's Hot in new Live Hotmail http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=clickclientID=810referral=HotmailtaglineURL=http://www.livehotmail.ninemsn.com.au/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp _ Feel like a local wherever you go. http://www.backofmyhand.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Pocket Genealogist 3.0
Jim, I had a DELL Axim with Pocket Genealogist. I now have a Palm TX with Gedstar Pro. I think the Palm beats the heck out of the Axim, hands down. However, I don't like the Gedstar Pro compared to Pocket Genealogist. I would still use my Axim just for that reason if it hadn't wore out. lol -- Paul What a glorious world God Almighty has given us. How thankless and ungrateful we are, and how we labor to mar His gifts. ~ Gen. Robert E. Lee, CSA Subject: [LegacyUG] Pocket Genealogist 3.0 Does anyone know if Pocket Genealogist 3.0 works with a Palm Operating System, or is this product only for Pocket PC system? If so, is the Gedstar Pro simply a lower priced product? I've made handheld software purchases before, only to be disappointed later. I have a Palm Lifedrive and the Pocket Genealogist 3.0 looks great. Thanks, Jim Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Gedcom Export
What exactly do you mean by an URL Event? My guess most of us do not understand the question. Have you checked to see if the GEDCOM format supports what you are trying to do? Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: Gedcom Export Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 10:27:16 -0400 still looking for help customizing gedcom export.? doesnt legacy allow export of all events? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 5:33 am Subject: Gedcom Export I just tried adding URL event to a few people with myspace pages.? After a few failed attempts to review the results on my TNG site I discovered that the URL event is not exported.? The customize list for the export function does not include the URL event and several others in the options to be included on export.? how can this be changed? _ Get Pimped! FREE emoticon packs from Windows Live - http://www.pimpmylive.co.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Gedcom Export
when i add events/facts the events list includes Travel and URL among many others that i had never used or paid attention to.? because i had a request from someone to post their contact information in the form of their myplace page, the URL seemed like a good way to do so.? when i exported a gedcom i discovered that the URL event didnt show up.? when i checked the customize option of the gedcom export i see that URL does not show URL?as one of the items listed.? however,?i noticed that the items available for export list does not include URL or Travel as items that can be added.? didnt do a complete check of items in the event list versus items available for export.? since i dont believe i added either one, is this an oversight in Legacy or am i missing something? -Original Message- From: ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:33 am Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Re: Gedcom Export What exactly do you mean by an URL Event? My guess most of us do not understand the question. Have you checked to see if the GEDCOM format supports what you are trying to do?? ? Ron Ferguson? ? ? _? ? For Genealogy, Software and Social visit:? http://www.fergys.co.uk? *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries*? View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:? http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/? For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:? http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/? _? ? ? ? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LegacyUG] Re: Gedcom Export? Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 10:27:16 -0400? ? still looking for help customizing gedcom export.? doesnt legacy allow export of all events?? ? ? -Original Message-? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 5:33 am? Subject: Gedcom Export? ? ? ? I just tried adding URL event to a few people with myspace pages.? After a few failed attempts to review the results on my TNG site I discovered that the URL event is not exported.? The customize list for the export function does not include the URL event and several others in the options to be included on export.? how can this be changed?? ? ? _? Get Pimped! FREE emoticon packs from Windows Live - http://www.pimpmylive.co.uk? ? ? Legacy User Group guidelines: ? http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp? Archived messages: ? http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/? Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp? To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp? ? Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Chart printing
Genbox Family History will make a chart of everyone with nine variations less complex than FTM. Brendan Caley From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TH Sent: 14 September 2007 16:27 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Chart printing If it's All-In-One, how would you customize it? I have FTM, because of the All-In-One chart's size and complexity, it's somewhat slow to load, but I'd hardly call it clunky. I'm moving over to Legacy because I'm not happy with their 2008 release, but I used all versions of FTM for well over a decade and never found it necessary to hang on a user group web site all the time to find out how to use FTM ;-) On 9/14/07, Terry Foxcroft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Generations had it, Reunion has it. I haven't seen FTM, a couple of others have it, but it is clunky and difficult to customise. It is the chart I use the most. Foxy Original Message Follows For a Family Reunion's it's great to be able to print an All-In-One Chart which contains a subset of your complete database. First create a gedcom which is a subset of your database. (This is the hardest part, selecting the right multiple ancestors, and selecting them and their descendants.) Then use Genbox or Family Tree Maker to create a tree with everyone included. An All-In-One Chart It's great to see a tree of ancestors for those attending a family reunion. I like the idea of creating a tree based on blood relatives, it would sure be less painful than the process I go through now. A Tree Chart of Blood Relatives would probably be used more often than the All In One Charts. I don't think I've seen a Tree Chart of Blood Relatives in anyone's product out there yet, does anyone know if anyone has done this? _ -- Thad Evotee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Trojan Attack
I need any help and/or advice from any Legacy user who also uses the software Clooz. (Everyone please be advised that I am a strong proponent and user of Clooz, Legacy and Master Genealogist softwares, and I hope to continue using the genealogy document concept in my work.) I have been having a problem since last Thursday that may involve my upgrade copy of Clooz 2.1. I am not saying that the issue is with Clooz but I think the software program is being used by a Trojan. I have been using Clooz steadily and more increasingly since the release of the new upgrade. Sometime last week a repeat problem began again as I had had in the past with the installation and configuration of Clooz 2.1. When I initiated Legacy or The Master Genealogist, a dialog box as before, appeared asking if I wanted to install Clooz 2.1, after it had already been installed. After a number of repeats, I followed all previous instructions, and removed and un-installed all traces of Clooz. I reinstalled but no success this time. Now the problem does not go away or is not fixed as it had been fixed in the past. This is the secondary issue and from my understanding is an MS Windows issue with the Clooz installation. I next discovered that 43 incidents of a Trojan, Trojan.Daugeru, had infected my PC. I cleaned my PC completely. I also had a professional service examine my PC. My PC service and speed continued to deteriorate. I ran a number of virus, spyware and malware checks and cleaned my PC completely. I used a number of software including Norton, SpySweeper, Spyware Doctor, CCleaner, Spybot Search, and PC Tools to examine and clean my PC. Overkill maybe, but the Trojan was completely removed. (FYI, Spyware Doctor, of those I used, was the only software the caught the Trojan.Daugeru.) In order to increase the speed of the server, as well as exclude the interference of some of the security software, I removed two softwares: Norton and SpySweeper. All this was done in a Safe-Mode and the PC hard drives were defragged, each at least three times... Overkill, possibly, but some of the actions were suggested by the professionals. And at their suggestion, I conducted a number of the processes as they felt that I could handle the work without having to spend any additional funds for what would be the same service that they would have to charge. After having completed all process for a thorough removal and cleansing of my PC, I reinstalled Clooz 2.1. I put the Clooz 2.1 CD in to the drive and began the installation process. At some point during the installation process I received 10 high-level Virus Alerts from Spyware Doctor that the Trojan.Daugeru had attempted once again to infect my PC. This happened twice for 20 attempts, and has happened each time I have reinstalled Clooz 2.1. Be it coincidence, this has happened only and every time I reinstall Clooz 2.1, something that did not happen prior to the appearance of the Trojan.Daugeru. I knew it couldn't be from the Clooz 2.1 CD as I had already installed and used the program since it was first published. I was just wondering, as the coincidence of the attacks seem to somehow target Clooz, and that the trojan is relatively new, that there may have been another Clooz user having had the same issue(s). Once all was done, I spoke too soon about any not having any further problems with my Clooz file and the effects of the Trojan. I decided to start working again inputting data and new Sources in my Legacy and Clooz database. As I checked my existent database of 264 Sources, there appears to be a major screw-up. It looks like Source Titles have been changed and in some cases deleted. It appears that parts of the titles have been deleted and changed. I always use an individual's name in the Source Title, and a good percentage of the names are gone. For example, my Personal File # DSCO 001 should be linked to Source Title Robertson, Thomas 1861 - Statutory Deaths (The Document data input screen appears to be okay.) When I look up the Document input screen in Sources, the Sources Title has been changed to read Certified Copy of An Entry of Birth Given at The General Register Office The Repository has also been changed from Scotland to England. And these types of errors and changes have be repeated randomly throughout my 264 entered Sources. This is a wicked Trojan, and I don't even know where to begin to start to fix the work I had done. My Carbonite remote backup is of no help as a copy of the garbled database was made without my knowledge that the database had been compromised. Am I alone in this experience? Has any one come across a similar experience? Do you have any idea of a resolution to my issue Clooz 2.1 reinstallation issue? As a further note, the same Clooz 2.1 reinstallation issue and dialog box continues to appear when I start up either Legacy or Master Genealogist. All-things-being-equal would I be further ahead in creating a link now between
Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter details of adopted children
I am the adoptive mother of a child born in Guatemala to parents who were unknown to anyone, including the Guatemalan courts. My child's birth name was given to him by the court system and is not his legal name now. Why would I use it at all although I see no harm in putting it in an AKA or in notes? When we adopted our son, the Guatemalan adoption decree changed his name to his Spanish given names with my surname and my husband's surname shown as his last name in the Hispanic fashion. That became his legal name. However, he used the given names we gave him plus just our surname until this began to cause problems with working, getting a driver's license, etc. At that time we did a legal name change. However, our son's situation is atypical. In domestic adoptions a new birth certificate is issued, showing the name given to the child by his adoptive parents and showing them as the parents. Legally the original name is irrelevant. I know that genealogists focused on blood lines find this hard to understand. Actually it is possible to change a child's birth date as well. This is sometimes done with internationally adopted children who are delayed developmentally because of early deprivation. Just as the name can be changed, so can the birth date. In addition, there are internationally adopted children whose exact ages are not known and for whom a date of birth must be assigned. I think that there are many in the adoption community who would be offended by the birth name being shown as the primary or real name. Practically and legally, it is the adoptive name that counts. Sara On 9/14/07, ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dermot, It rather depends on what the person (if alive) would wish. Generally I would use the birth name as the proper name and the adopted (or step) name as the AKA. Years ago, of course, UK adoption in the legal sense was not common and one would see adopted kids using their birth name when on their marriage papers. I would have no problems doing it the other way round (and do) and in both cases I make notes to say what the position actually is. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: Dermot McGlone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] How to enter details of adopted children Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:07:04 +0100 Following a few e-mails regarding how (in Legacy) to deal with adopted children and those with more than one set of parents, I've had a look at a few in my records. I've got one person who was given up for adoption at birth. He is listed on ym database under his adopted name, with the name his birth mother gave him (his first name and her surname) listed as an AKA. This person is still alive as is his birth mother, they have made contact about 7 years ago, but she, and the rest of her family (which includes me!), now call him by his adopted name rather than the name given to him at birth. I'm just wondering how others on this list would deal with a situation like this, i.e., which name you would list as the correct name and which as an AKA, and the reasons why you would do this. Regards, Dermot. _ The next generation of Hotmail is here! http://www.newhotmail.co.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter English Locations
The latter... Walworth, Surrey, England, UK Main Lines: TAYLOR, RICHARDS (Welsh), LIPPINCOTT, KIRKBRIDE and all related inter-related lines (too many to mention). ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Trojan Attack
The one thing I don't see that you did (and perhaps you did) was to dump your system restore. You can clean a machine all you want but if its gotten in your system restore its going to pop right back up. Jackie Jim Liddil wrote: If you have a cable modem or DSL, disconnect the computer off the internet. empty the recycle bin and all temp files. Reboot. Scan for viruses and spyware. Set your personal firewall to disallow all traffic with out confirmation from you. Reboot. Attach to the internet and then you'll have to confirm each access attempt by your computer. got to trendmicro or a simlar site and run their scan. do you have wireless in the house. The firewall lockdown should prevent any malicious neighbors. Jim On 9/14/07, Jim Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need any help and/or advice from any Legacy user who also uses the software Clooz. (Everyone please be advised that I am a strong proponent and user of Clooz, Legacy and Master Genealogist softwares, and I hope to continue using the genealogy document concept in my work.) I have been having a problem since last Thursday that may involve my upgrade copy of Clooz 2.1. I am not saying that the issue is with Clooz but I think the software program is being used by a Trojan. I have been using Clooz steadily and more increasingly since the release of the new upgrade. Sometime last week a repeat problem began again as I had had in the past with the installation and configuration of Clooz 2.1. When I initiated Legacy or The Master Genealogist, a dialog box as before, appeared asking if I wanted to install Clooz 2.1, after it had already been installed. After a number of repeats, I followed all previous instructions, and removed and un-installed all traces of Clooz. I reinstalled but no success this time. Now the problem does not go away or is not fixed as it had been fixed in the past. This is the secondary issue and from my understanding is an MS Windows issue with the Clooz installation. I next discovered that 43 incidents of a Trojan, Trojan.Daugeru, had infected my PC. I cleaned my PC completely. I also had a professional service examine my PC. My PC service and speed continued to deteriorate. I ran a number of virus, spyware and malware checks and cleaned my PC completely. I used a number of software including Norton, SpySweeper, Spyware Doctor, CCleaner, Spybot Search, and PC Tools to examine and clean my PC. Overkill maybe, but the Trojan was completely removed. (FYI, Spyware Doctor, of those I used, was the only software the caught the Trojan.Daugeru.) In order to increase the speed of the server, as well as exclude the interference of some of the security software, I removed two softwares: Norton and SpySweeper. All this was done in a Safe-Mode and the PC hard drives were defragged, each at least three times... Overkill, possibly, but some of the actions were suggested by the professionals. And at their suggestion, I conducted a number of the processes as they felt that I could handle the work without having to spend any additional funds for what would be the same service that they would have to charge. After having completed all process for a thorough removal and cleansing of my PC, I reinstalled Clooz 2.1. I put the Clooz 2.1 CD in to the drive and began the installation process. At some point during the installation process I received 10 high-level Virus Alerts from Spyware Doctor that the Trojan.Daugeru had attempted once again to infect my PC. This happened twice for 20 attempts, and has happened each time I have reinstalled Clooz 2.1. Be it coincidence, this has happened only and every time I reinstall Clooz 2.1, something that did not happen prior to the appearance of the Trojan.Daugeru. I knew it couldn't be from the Clooz 2.1 CD as I had already installed and used the program since it was first published. I was just wondering, as the coincidence of the attacks seem to somehow target Clooz, and that the trojan is relatively new, that there may have been another Clooz user having had the same issue(s). Once all was done, I spoke too soon about any not having any further problems with my Clooz file and the effects of the Trojan. I decided to start working again inputting data and new Sources in my Legacy and Clooz database. As I checked my existent database of 264 Sources, there appears to be a major screw-up. It looks like Source Titles have been changed and in some cases deleted. It appears that parts of the titles have been deleted and changed. I always use an individual's name in the Source Title, and a good percentage of the names are gone. For example, my Personal File # DSCO 001 should be linked to Source Title Robertson, Thomas 1861 - Statutory Deaths (The Document data input screen appears to be okay.) When I look up the Document input screen in Sources, the Sources Title has been changed to read Certified Copy of An Entry of Birth Given at The General Register Office The
Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter English Locations
Much against my Scottish inclinations g I use e.g. Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland, United Kingdom because it fits with the Legacy geolocations database. I am cleaning up my location list with a view to installing Map My Family Tree I think there's an option to have Legacy drop the UK in Reports. -- Mary Young Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter English Locations
Mary, There is no way I would ever use UK - even to suit Legacy! We are either British, English, Irish, Scottish or Welsh. I cannot possibly imagine being United Kingdomish. In Legacy I only use the constituent countries of The Union. ( I think. however, that my brother-in-law uses UK but only in order to fit in with Legacy) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: Mary Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter English Locations Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 19:50:14 +0100 Much against my Scottish inclinations g I use e.g. Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland, United Kingdom because it fits with the Legacy geolocations database. I am cleaning up my location list with a view to installing Map My Family Tree I think there's an option to have Legacy drop the UK in Reports. -- Mary Young _ Get Pimped! FREE emoticon packs from Windows Live - http://www.pimpmylive.co.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Gedcom Export
wrote when i exported a gedcom i discovered that the URL event didnt show up. when i checked the customize option of the gedcom export i see that URL does not show URL as one of the items listed. however, i noticed that the items available for export list does not include URL or Travel as items that can be added. didnt do a complete check of items in the event list versus items available for export. since i dont believe i added either one, is this an oversight in Legacy or am i missing something? I think you must have added URL as I don't have that in my list of Events, but I do have Travel. I'm not really sure how Gedcoms and the Customise option work, but I have just run a test on my file. I created an Event named URL, entered a URL, attached it to an individual with a URL as the Description and then exported that individual as a Gedcom. Looking at the Options lists I did not see URL listed in either list. I then viewed the Gedcom in Notepad and the URL Event was there. You haven't got Events ticked off to be EXCLUDED from the Gedcom have you? How are you viewing the Gedcom to ascertain that your URL event has not been included? I sent a Gedcom to someone who uses PAF and they found that my Census details which were in Event Notes were included in the Notes field of PAF, quite separate from the Census Events which they were part of. So if you are looking at the Gedcom after import into another program maybe the URL is misplaced. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Gedcom Export
i checked to make sure URL is accepted on my TNG site.? will do a test to look at the GEDCOM.? guess legacy has so many options/features i cant keep up with the occasional customization.? been using it for a few years and have no idea when i might have added URL.? going to check to see where if ever i used it. -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 3:29 pm Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Gedcom Export wrote? when i exported a gedcom i discovered that the URL event didnt show up.? when i checked the customize option of the gedcom export i see that URL does not show URL?as one of the items listed.? however,?i noticed that the items available for export list does not include URL or Travel as items that can be added.? didnt do a complete check of items in the event list versus items available for export.?? ?? since i dont believe i added either one, is this an oversight in Legacy or am i missing something?? ? I think you must have added URL as I don't have that in my list of Events, but I do have Travel.? ? I'm not really sure how Gedcoms and the Customise option work, but I have just run a test on my file. I created an Event named URL, entered a URL, attached it to an individual with a URL as the Description and then exported that individual as a Gedcom. Looking at the Options lists I did not see URL listed in either list.? ? I then viewed the Gedcom in Notepad and the URL Event was there.? ? You haven't got Events ticked off to be EXCLUDED from the Gedcom have you?? ? How are you viewing the Gedcom to ascertain that your URL event has not been included? I sent a Gedcom to someone who uses PAF and they found that my Census details which were in Event Notes were included in the Notes field of PAF, quite separate from the Census Events which they were part of. So if you are looking at the Gedcom after import into another program maybe the URL is misplaced.? -- Jenny M Benson? ? ? Legacy User Group guidelines: ? http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp? Archived messages: ? http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/? Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp? To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp? ? Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Gedcom Export
got it, thanks, must have not saved when i thought i accepted the URL event type on the site.? URL was in the gedcom and imported properly.? still dont understand what the customize feature is supposed to show but as long as it works i am not gonna worry about it. -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 3:29 pm Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Re: Gedcom Export wrote? when i exported a gedcom i discovered that the URL event didnt show up.? when i checked the customize option of the gedcom export i see that URL does not show URL?as one of the items listed.? however,?i noticed that the items available for export list does not include URL or Travel as items that can be added.? didnt do a complete check of items in the event list versus items available for export.?? ?? since i dont believe i added either one, is this an oversight in Legacy or am i missing something?? ? I think you must have added URL as I don't have that in my list of Events, but I do have Travel.? ? I'm not really sure how Gedcoms and the Customise option work, but I have just run a test on my file. I created an Event named URL, entered a URL, attached it to an individual with a URL as the Description and then exported that individual as a Gedcom. Looking at the Options lists I did not see URL listed in either list.? ? I then viewed the Gedcom in Notepad and the URL Event was there.? ? You haven't got Events ticked off to be EXCLUDED from the Gedcom have you?? ? How are you viewing the Gedcom to ascertain that your URL event has not been included? I sent a Gedcom to someone who uses PAF and they found that my Census details which were in Event Notes were included in the Notes field of PAF, quite separate from the Census Events which they were part of. So if you are looking at the Gedcom after import into another program maybe the URL is misplaced.? -- Jenny M Benson? ? ? Legacy User Group guidelines: ? http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp? Archived messages: ? http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/? Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp? To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp? ? Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter English Locations
Anna This is the Capman Codes NAME OF COUNTY ENGLAND (AND ANY COMMENT) CODE Avon [from 1974] AVN Bedfordshire BDF Berkshire BRK Buckinghamshire BKM Cambridgeshire CAM Cheshire CHS Cleveland [from 1974] CLV Cornwall CON Cumberland [until 1974] CUL Cumbria [from 1974] CMA Derbyshire DBY Devon DEV Dorset DOR Durham DUR East Riding of Yorkshire [until 1974] ERY East Sussex [from 1974] SXE Essex ESS Gloucestershire GLS Greater Manchester [from 1974] GTM Hampshire HAM Hereford Worcester [from 1974] HWR Herefordshire [until 1974] HEF Hertfordshire HRT Humberside [from 1974] HUM Huntingdonshire [until 1974] HUN Isle Of Man IOM Isle of Wight (HAM) IOW Kent KEN Lancashire LAN Leicestershire LEI Lincolnshire LIN London LND Merseyside [from 1974] MSY Middlesex [until 1974] MDX Norfolk NFK North Riding of Yorkshire [until 1974] NRY North Yorkshire [from 1974] NYK Northamptonshire NTH Northumberland NBL Nottinghamshire NTT Oxfordshire OXF Rutlandshire [until 1974] RUT Shropshire SAL Somerset SOM South Yorkshire [from 1974] SYK Staffordshire STS Suffolk SFK Surrey SRY Sussex [until 1974] SSX Tyne Wear [from 1974] TWR Warwickshire WAR West Midlands [from 1974] WMD West Riding of Yorkshire [until 1974] WRY West Sussex [from 1974] SXW West Yorkshire [from 1974] WYK Westmorland [until 1974] WES Wiltshire WIL Worcestershire [until 1974] WOR Yorkshire [until 1974] YKS Yorkshire, East Riding [until 1974] ERY Yorkshire, North Riding [until 1974] NRY Yorkshire, West Riding [until 1974] WRY CODES FOR COUNTIES IN WALES NAME OF COUNTY (AND ANY COMMENT) CODE Anglesey [until 1974] AGY Breconshire [until 1974] BRE Caernavonshire [until 1974] CAE Cardiganshire [until 1974] CGN Carmarthenshire [until 1974] CMN Clwyd [from 1974] CWD Denbighshire [until 1974] DEN Dyfed [from 1974] DFD Flint [until 1974] FLN Glamorganshire [until 1974] GLA Gwent [from 1974] GNT Gwynedd [from 1974] GWN Merionethshire [until 1974] MER Mid Glamorgan [from 1974] MGM Monmouthshire [until 1974] MON Montgomeryshire [until 1974] MGY Pembrokeshire [until 1974] PEM Powys [from 1974] POW Radnorshire [until 1974] RAD South Glamorgan [from 1974] SGM West Glamorgan [from 1974] WGM CODES FOR COUNTIES IN SCOTLAND NAME OF COUNTY (AND ANY COMMENT) CODE Aberdeenshire [until 1975] ABD Angus [until 1975] ANS Argyllshire [until 1975] ARL Ayrshire [until 1975] AYR Banffshire [until 1975] BAN Berwickshire [until 1975] BEW Borders (from 1975) BOR Bute [until 1975] BUT Caithness-shire [until 1975] CAI Central Region (from 1975) CEN Clackmannanshire [until 1975] CLK Dumfries Galloway (from 1975) DGY Dumfriesshire [until 1975] DFS Dunbartonshire [until 1975] DNB East Lothian (Haddington) [until 1975] ELN Edinburgh (see Midlothian) [until 1975] MLN Elgin (see Moray) [until 1975] MOR Fife FIF Forfar (see Angus) [until 1975] ANS Grampian (from 1975) GMP Haddington (see East Lothian) [until 1975] ELN Highland (from 1975) HLD Inverness-shire [until 1975] INV Kincardineshire (Mearns) [until 1975] KCD Kinross-shire [until 1975] KRS Kirkcudbrightshire [until 1975] KKD Lanarkshire [until 1975] LKS Linlithgow (see West Lothian) [until 1975] WLN Lothian (from 1975) LTN Mearns (see Kincardineshire) [until 1975] KCD Midlothian [until 1975] MLN Moray [until 1975] MOR Nairnshire [until 1975] NAI Orkney Isles OKI Peebleshire [until 1975] PEE Perthshire [until 1975] PER Renfrewshire [until 1975] RFW Ross Cromarty [until 1975] ROC Roxburghshire [until 1975] ROX Selkirkshire [until 1975] SEL Shetland Isles SHI Stirlingshire [until 1975] STI Strathclyde (from 1975) STD Sutherland [until 1975] SUT Tayside (from 1975) TAY West Galloway (see Wigtownshire) [until 1975] WIG West Lothian [until 1975] WLN Western Isles (from 1975) WIS Wigtownshire (West Galloway) [until 1975] WIG Zetland (see Shetland Isles) [until 1975] SHI CODES FOR COUNTIES IN IRELAND NAME OF COUNTY (AND ANY COMMENT) CODE Antrim [NIR from 1922] ANT Armagh [NIR from 1922] ARM Carlow [EIR from 1922] CAR Cavan [EIR from 1922] CAV Clare [EIR from 1922] CLA Cork [EIR from 1922] COR Derry (see Londonderry) [NIR from 1922] LDY Donegal [EIR from 1922] DON Down [NIR from 1922] DOW Dublin [EIR from 1922] DUB Fermanagh [NIR from 1922] FER Galway [EIR from 1922] GAL Kerry [EIR from 1922] KER Kildare [EIR from 1922] KID Kilkenny [EIR from 1922] KIK Kings (see Offaly) [EIR from 1922] OFF Laois (see Leix(Queens)) [EIR from 1922] LEX Leitrim [EIR from 1922] LET Leix (Laois, Queens) [EIR from 1922] LEX Limerick [EIR from 1922] LIM Londonderry [NIR from 1922] LDY Longford [EIR from 1922] LOG Louth [EIR from 1922] LOU Mayo [EIR from 1922] MAY Meath [EIR from 1922] MEA Monoghan [EIR from 1922] MOG Offaly (Kings) [EIR from 1922] OFF Queens (see Leix) [EIR from 1922] LEX Roscommon [EIR from 1922] ROS Sligo [EIR from 1922] SLI Tipperary [EIR from 1922] TIP Tyrone [NIR from 1922] TYR Waterford [EIR from 1922] WAT Westmeath [EIR from 1922] WEM Wexford [EIR from 1922] WEX Wicklow [EIR from 1922] WIC
RE: [LegacyUG] How to enter details of adopted children
In my situation, I am the biological mother of my daughter however my husband is her legally adoptive father. Her birth certificate was changed to show my current husband as her father. The biological father has no rights in this matter. Court records are sealed and cannot be opened easily. Only the parties initially named in the adoption proceedings and any attorneys representing them can access these records. As far as Legacy and reporting goes, we go by her legal name, not her birth name. Those researching bloodlines may disagree, but her biological paternal family are total strangers to her. The only reason they would need to be listed is if there were medical or genetic issues that arise. Other than that, there is no need to list them, she does not wish to have anything to do with them (she is now an adult and can make those decisions for herself). The people who have been there for her all of her life are her family, not the person who happened to be there at conception. Linda Altman http://www.southerngenealogy.com Southern Genealogy uses Legacy Family Tree! This highly acclaimed genealogy program can be downloaded FREE at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Index.asp?mid=6BL9QCi -Original Message- From: Sara Binkley Tarpley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 12:23 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter details of adopted children snip However, our son's situation is atypical. In domestic adoptions a new birth certificate is issued, showing the name given to the child by his adoptive parents and showing them as the parents. Legally the original name is irrelevant. I know that genealogists focused on blood lines find this hard to understand. Actually it is possible to change a child's birth date as well. This is sometimes done with internationally adopted children who are delayed developmentally because of early deprivation. Just as the name can be changed, so can the birth date. In addition, there are internationally adopted children whose exact ages are not known and for whom a date of birth must be assigned. I think that there are many in the adoption community who would be offended by the birth name being shown as the primary or real name. Practically and legally, it is the adoptive name that counts. Sara Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Pocket Genealogist 3.0
Paul, Well, I guess that's why there are lots of different devices and for that matter, lots of different genealogy programs. Everyone has their preferences. I personally don't like the Palm Operating system which is why 8 years ago when I wrote Pocket Genealogist I picked Windows Mobile over Palm. (Even though I had people call me an idiot since Palms at that time had a HUGE market lead over PocketPC's... my how times have changed!) You may also have had a fairly early Dell which compared to new devices (PocketPC or Palm) might seem pretty clunky. (Devices get incrementally better every year!)Also, you just may prefer the Palm Operating system 'user interface' better than Windows Mobile, some people do. But one thing we definitely agree on, Pocket Genealogist IS the most advanced genealogy program for any type of handheld! :-) Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul A. Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 10:19 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Pocket Genealogist 3.0 Jim, I had a DELL Axim with Pocket Genealogist. I now have a Palm TX with Gedstar Pro. I think the Palm beats the heck out of the Axim, hands down. However, I don't like the Gedstar Pro compared to Pocket Genealogist. I would still use my Axim just for that reason if it hadn't wore out. lol -- Paul What a glorious world God Almighty has given us. How thankless and ungrateful we are, and how we labor to mar His gifts. ~ Gen. Robert E. Lee, CSA No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.19/1008 - Release Date: 9/14/2007 8:59 AM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] How to enter details of adopted children
I am an adoptee and I use my birthname on my tree as it reflects my ethnic and cultural heritage, along with my family history. I think preference should be left to the adoptee. Mary - Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter details of adopted children
I know a family who adopted two Chinese girls. When the parents were asked where they were from, the parents could only say We can show you the stairwell where you were found. Sometimes birth names and parents names both are impossible to know. Elizabeth C Sara Binkley Tarpley wrote: I am the adoptive mother of a child born in Guatemala to parents who were unknown to anyone, including the Guatemalan courts. My child's birth name was given to him by the court system and is not his legal name now. Why would I use it at all although I see no harm in putting it in an AKA or in notes? When we adopted our son, the Guatemalan adoption decree changed his name to his Spanish given names with my surname and my husband's surname shown as his last name in the Hispanic fashion. That became his legal name. However, he used the given names we gave him plus just our surname until this began to cause problems with working, getting a driver's license, etc. At that time we did a legal name change. However, our son's situation is atypical. In domestic adoptions a new birth certificate is issued, showing the name given to the child by his adoptive parents and showing them as the parents. Legally the original name is irrelevant. I know that genealogists focused on blood lines find this hard to understand. Actually it is possible to change a child's birth date as well. This is sometimes done with internationally adopted children who are delayed developmentally because of early deprivation. Just as the name can be changed, so can the birth date. In addition, there are internationally adopted children whose exact ages are not known and for whom a date of birth must be assigned. I think that there are many in the adoption community who would be offended by the birth name being shown as the primary or real name. Practically and legally, it is the adoptive name that counts. Sara On 9/14/07, ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dermot, It rather depends on what the person (if alive) would wish. Generally I would use the birth name as the proper name and the adopted (or step) name as the AKA. Years ago, of course, UK adoption in the legal sense was not common and one would see adopted kids using their birth name when on their marriage papers. I would have no problems doing it the other way round (and do) and in both cases I make notes to say what the position actually is. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk *Over 650 Surnames from 11 Countries* View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: Dermot McGlone [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] How to enter details of adopted children Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:07:04 +0100 Following a few e-mails regarding how (in Legacy) to deal with adopted children and those with more than one set of parents, I've had a look at a few in my records. I've got one person who was given up for adoption at birth. He is listed on ym database under his adopted name, with the name his birth mother gave him (his first name and her surname) listed as an AKA. This person is still alive as is his birth mother, they have made contact about 7 years ago, but she, and the rest of her family (which includes me!), now call him by his adopted name rather than the name given to him at birth. I'm just wondering how others on this list would deal with a situation like this, i.e., which name you would list as the correct name and which as an AKA, and the reasons why you would do this. Regards, Dermot. _ The next generation of Hotmail is here! http://www.newhotmail.co.uk Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Parent listing
Hi listers, I've been following the adoption thread and find the way to list parents interesting. My cousin was adopted by friends, so I list him in with his biological family, and with adoptive parents. I have a friend who used donor sperm for her twins, there was another participant/parent but it will never be known. I'm sure there are many other examples of where one or two of the biological parent/s are just not going to be listed. Then there's surrogate pregnancies, I don't have any surrogate pregnancies in my file, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happened. Tricky stuff for those who list DNA. In Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures a child is often passed over to a sibling or cousin, sometimes grandparent to raise. That child then has more than one set of parents, but one set of biological parents. I don't have the answers for these issues, but it will be interesting to see what Legacy 7 and other software will come up with to keep up with society's trends. Cheers Tracy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Parent listing
I've never cared what the genealogy programs did because they have had to deal with purists who want blood lines. There are many adoptions in my family, my big brother is adopted. So I long ago made a decision that my genealogy would be family tree, not blood lines. Parents and children are parents and children. My single niece has adopted two mixed race children in the last five years, another niece and her husband adopted a child from Russia. There are a number of second marriages where spouses have adopted the bio child of their spouse. They are all listed in the family tree. I emphasize to family that my research is a family tree. If someone wants blood lineage they will have to do the work themselves. Maybe one day a program will offer a switch and we will be able to choose one or the other, blood or family. It would be nice. I'm not holding my breath. Elaine Hi listers, I've been following the adoption thread and find the way to list parents interesting. My cousin was adopted by friends, so I list him in with his biological family, and with adoptive parents. I have a friend who used donor sperm for her twins, there was another participant/parent but it will never be known. I'm sure there are many other examples of where one or two of the biological parent/s are just not going to be listed. Then there's surrogate pregnancies, I don't have any surrogate pregnancies in my file, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happened. Tricky stuff for those who list DNA. In Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures a child is often passed over to a sibling or cousin, sometimes grandparent to raise. That child then has more than one set of parents, but one set of biological parents. I don't have the answers for these issues, but it will be interesting to see what Legacy 7 and other software will come up with to keep up with society's trends. Cheers Tracy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship
I have 41 first cousins - am thrilled to find someone who has more. Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dermot McGlone Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:24 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship Wendy, You think you have it bad? I have (to the best of my knowledge) 44 first cousins, many of whom are married with children (some even have married children of their own!) Imagine trying to record all of them!! Regards, Dermot. On 13/09/2007, Wendy Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I don't normally record that end of the family, ie the kids of my own first cousins. Mostly 'cos I don't know the details, so it's good to make a start with this one - it may encourage my aunt to sit down and write out the various names of her line - I can't remember the names of my cousin's six kids, let alone the four father's names, LOL!! /snip Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Trojan Attack
Have you plugged in any devices or accessed files in ANY other medium as part of your attempt to reinstall Clooz -floppy, flash drive, home burned CD? Along with turning off System Restore and disconnecting from the Internet, if the PC is getting thoroughly cleaned and it is coming back then there must be a reservoir somewhere. Scanning the external media would be a start. Since you are apparently using Carbonite and should have backups of other important data, if you can't knock this you might have to consider reformatting and starting over. (Be sure to save Favorites, email, passwords, newsgroup account settings, etc. too) Gary Templeman - Original Message - From: Jim Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: legacyusergroup legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 10:15 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Trojan Attack I need any help and/or advice from any Legacy user who also uses the software Clooz. (Everyone please be advised that I am a strong proponent and user of Clooz, Legacy and Master Genealogist softwares, and I hope to continue using the genealogy document concept in my work.) I have been having a problem since last Thursday that may involve my upgrade copy of Clooz 2.1. I am not saying that the issue is with Clooz but I think the software program is being used by a Trojan. I have been using Clooz steadily and more increasingly since the release of the new upgrade. Sometime last week a repeat problem began again as I had had in the past with the installation and configuration of Clooz 2.1. When I initiated Legacy or The Master Genealogist, a dialog box as before, appeared asking if I wanted to install Clooz 2.1, after it had already been installed. After a number of repeats, I followed all previous instructions, and removed and un-installed all traces of Clooz. I reinstalled but no success this time. Now the problem does not go away or is not fixed as it had been fixed in the past. This is the secondary issue and from my understanding is an MS Windows issue with the Clooz installation. I next discovered that 43 incidents of a Trojan, Trojan.Daugeru, had infected my PC. I cleaned my PC completely. I also had a professional service examine my PC. My PC service and speed continued to deteriorate. I ran a number of virus, spyware and malware checks and cleaned my PC completely. I used a number of software including Norton, SpySweeper, Spyware Doctor, CCleaner, Spybot Search, and PC Tools to examine and clean my PC. Overkill maybe, but the Trojan was completely removed. (FYI, Spyware Doctor, of those I used, was the only software the caught the Trojan.Daugeru.) In order to increase the speed of the server, as well as exclude the interference of some of the security software, I removed two softwares: Norton and SpySweeper. All this was done in a Safe-Mode and the PC hard drives were defragged, each at least three times... Overkill, possibly, but some of the actions were suggested by the professionals. And at their suggestion, I conducted a number of the processes as they felt that I could handle the work without having to spend any additional funds for what would be the same service that they would have to charge. After having completed all process for a thorough removal and cleansing of my PC, I reinstalled Clooz 2.1. I put the Clooz 2.1 CD in to the drive and began the installation process. At some point during the installation process I received 10 high-level Virus Alerts from Spyware Doctor that the Trojan.Daugeru had attempted once again to infect my PC. This happened twice for 20 attempts, and has happened each time I have reinstalled Clooz 2.1. Be it coincidence, this has happened only and every time I reinstall Clooz 2.1, something that did not happen prior to the appearance of the Trojan.Daugeru. I knew it couldn't be from the Clooz 2.1 CD as I had already installed and used the program since it was first published. I was just wondering, as the coincidence of the attacks seem to somehow target Clooz, and that the trojan is relatively new, that there may have been another Clooz user having had the same issue(s). Once all was done, I spoke too soon about any not having any further problems with my Clooz file and the effects of the Trojan. I decided to start working again inputting data and new Sources in my Legacy and Clooz database. As I checked my existent database of 264 Sources, there appears to be a major screw-up. It looks like Source Titles have been changed and in some cases deleted. It appears that parts of the titles have been deleted and changed. I always use an individual's name in the Source Title, and a good percentage of the names are gone. For example, my Personal File # DSCO 001 should be linked to Source Title Robertson, Thomas 1861 - Statutory Deaths (The Document data input screen appears to be okay.) When I look up the Document input screen in Sources, the Sources Title has been changed to read
RE: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship
I have 72 first cousins, 58 on my father's side and 14 on my mother's. Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis Gilmore Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 8:52 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship I have 41 first cousins - am thrilled to find someone who has more. Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dermot McGlone Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:24 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship Wendy, You think you have it bad? I have (to the best of my knowledge) 44 first cousins, many of whom are married with children (some even have married children of their own!) Imagine trying to record all of them!! Regards, Dermot. On 13/09/2007, Wendy Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I don't normally record that end of the family, ie the kids of my own first cousins. Mostly 'cos I don't know the details, so it's good to make a start with this one - it may encourage my aunt to sit down and write out the various names of her line - I can't remember the names of my cousin's six kids, let alone the four father's names, LOL!! /snip Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship
Each of my 9 children has 56 first cousins.. 47 on one side of our family and 9 on the other. Tom (Nicknamed in my youth Big Daddy!) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis Gilmore Sent: Saturday, 15 September 2007 10:52 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship I have 41 first cousins - am thrilled to find someone who has more. Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dermot McGlone Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:24 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship Wendy, You think you have it bad? I have (to the best of my knowledge) 44 first cousins, many of whom are married with children (some even have married children of their own!) Imagine trying to record all of them!! Regards, Dermot. On 13/09/2007, Wendy Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I don't normally record that end of the family, ie the kids of my own first cousins. Mostly 'cos I don't know the details, so it's good to make a start with this one - it may encourage my aunt to sit down and write out the various names of her line - I can't remember the names of my cousin's six kids, let alone the four father's names, LOL!! /snip Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 357 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship
Don. you take the cake, mate!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown Sent: Saturday, 15 September 2007 12:16 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship I have 72 first cousins, 58 on my father's side and 14 on my mother's. Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis Gilmore Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 8:52 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship I have 41 first cousins - am thrilled to find someone who has more. Janis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dermot McGlone Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:24 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family View: * next to relationship Wendy, You think you have it bad? I have (to the best of my knowledge) 44 first cousins, many of whom are married with children (some even have married children of their own!) Imagine trying to record all of them!! Regards, Dermot. On 13/09/2007, Wendy Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I don't normally record that end of the family, ie the kids of my own first cousins. Mostly 'cos I don't know the details, so it's good to make a start with this one - it may encourage my aunt to sit down and write out the various names of her line - I can't remember the names of my cousin's six kids, let alone the four father's names, LOL!! /snip Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 357 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
