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RE: [LegacyUG] Display of probable date and location in Pedigree View

2008-05-08 Thread Kirsten Bowman

Kimberly:

Although I am certainly no programmer, angle brackets in databases seem to
be troublesome.  I used them extensively for both dates and locations where
I had only questionable sources--and then discovered that GEDCOMs posted at
RootsWeb's WorldConnect automatically delete anything between angle
brackets.  It's possible that other programs might do the same, but I
decided not to chance it.  Now I use "abt" for those types of dates.  For
locations, in order to have them sort to my liking, I put [probably] *after*
the questionable part of the location so it might read:  Ancaster
[probably], Wentworth County, etc. and this tells me I'm sure about
Wentworth County, but not sure about Ancaster.  Also, this causes it to sort
with the other Ancasters in the location list rather than creating a long
list of locations beginning with Probably or [probably].

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ryan
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:32 AM
To: legacyusergroup
Subject: [LegacyUG] Display of probable date and location in Pedigree
View


In a few situations I have identified a highly probable death or
burial record for an individual, but the record isn't strong enough to
stand on its own.  I still want to record and display this
information, yet clearly see that it is "probable", still needing
further investigation and support.

So, I use the surety level, text and comments when documenting the
source. I also use the angled brackets <> around the dates and
locations, so they are clearly identified in *most* views (Family,
Descendant, Chronology), but not the Pedigree view.

In the Pedigree view, "Cal" and "Abt" show up for the date ranges
after the individuals, but angled brackets do not. (The option to
display dates in the Pedigree view is turn on.) In addition, when the
Spouse/Child and Sibling Lists are displayed in this view, and I click
on Information tab, the angle bracketed date information is displayed,
but the location is not.

Also, I noted that in the Master Location List, the locations with
angled brackets are not displayed. At first, I thought that the
location was included in the non-bracketed location of the same name.
However, clicking on the "Show List..." button shows that the
individual with the bracketed location is not included.

Any ideas? Thanks.








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Re: [LegacyUG] Another Search Problem

2008-05-08 Thread JLB

Yippee!!! Yahoo!!! If I had only a short list, that would be on it.  
But, sigh, is Legacy 7 ever coming...

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Cathy wrote:
Sorry, I must have had Legacy 6 beta open by mistake at the time. 
Lately I've usually had .Legacy 7 beta and the normal Legacy 6 open.


It's coming  in Legacy 7.

Cathy

At 08:29 PM 8/05/2008, you wrote:

Cathy wrote
Try searching on Source Citation which is the Source Detail 
including Source Detail text


Where are you finding the option to search Source Detail?

It's not in the "normal" search list and although in Search and 
Replace one can search for words entered in any part of the Citation 
(Details, Text, Comments, etc) it does not show which person's record 
is being changed.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Re: [LegacyUserGroup] (No Subject)

2008-05-08 Thread Cathy

Why not use Options > Cutomise to copy all the RINs over to User ID 
at once and then go through using the Name List with Edit tab at the 
front and add the prefix or suffix to it that you want?


Cathy

At 08:43 PM 8/05/2008, you wrote:

MICHELLE CROSBY wrote
Earlier this week there was a posting regarding ID numbers and 
RIN's  - exactly, how does one go about assigning ID numbers
I want to do Initials of the person along with their RIN's  IE... 
RJC1 ,  BLE2
I went to Options, Customize then other, I found where you can 
create User ID numbers by having the RIN copied into the field with 
optional text-  My question is how to you get the optional text- do 
you have to do this for each individual or is there a command that 
will allow the family data base to just take the name or initials 
along with the RIN.


The bit you found in Options, Customise only works if you want to 
add the same text to all RINs to create your UserID.  I don't think 
this is very helpful as I can't imagine anyone actually wanting to 
do this! (Which is bound to prompt posts from several people saying 
that is exactly what they do want!)


On the Options, Customise, View tab, under "Display RINS on Names" I 
have both radio buttons checked, and a check for displaying UserID 
added to names.  When you open an Individual's screen there is a 
place for entering the UserID and with the above settings, the 
person's RIN will be displayed at the top of the screen.


Because my UserIDs are a prefix and the RIN, when I am creating a 
new record I just type my desired prefix into the UserID box and 
then copy the RIN as shown at the top of the window.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Another Search Problem

2008-05-08 Thread GeoSci

Oo!!! Good news!! :-)
Thanks,
Keith

On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry, I must have had Legacy 6 beta open by mistake at the time. Lately
> I've usually had .Legacy 7 beta and the normal Legacy 6 open.
>
> It's coming  in Legacy 7.
>
> Cathy
>
> At 08:29 PM 8/05/2008, you wrote:
>>
>> Cathy wrote
>>>
>>> Try searching on Source Citation which is the Source Detail including
>>> Source Detail text
>>
>> Where are you finding the option to search Source Detail?
>>
>> It's not in the "normal" search list and although in Search and Replace
>> one can search for words entered in any part of the Citation (Details, Text,
>> Comments, etc) it does not show which person's record is being changed.
>> --
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Re: [LegacyUG] Another Search Problem

2008-05-08 Thread Cathy

Sorry, I must have had Legacy 6 beta open by mistake at the time. 
Lately I've usually had .Legacy 7 beta and the normal Legacy 6 open.


It's coming  in Legacy 7.

Cathy

At 08:29 PM 8/05/2008, you wrote:

Cathy wrote
Try searching on Source Citation which is the Source Detail 
including Source Detail text


Where are you finding the option to search Source Detail?

It's not in the "normal" search list and although in Search and 
Replace one can search for words entered in any part of the Citation 
(Details, Text, Comments, etc) it does not show which person's 
record is being changed.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Display of probable date and location in Pedigree View

2008-05-08 Thread MJMethod

For locations: I have settled on using the <> carats. The Master  Location 
list handles them just fine, and by checking the box in the lower left  corner, 
the  sorts adjacent to its partner. If I need additional  detail or 
clarification, I'll include that in the notes.
 
For dates: 
I use "Abt" when I have reasonable sourcing, e.g. a  year which is based 
on an age in a census or marriage license. 
I use "Est" when I am making a general guess, such  as approximating a 
marriage when the woman was age 21 and the husband age  25.
I rarely use "Cal", but I have encountered death  certificates with a 
"yrs,mths,days" and no birth date.
"Bef", "Aft", "From-to", and "Between" express  nothing more than what 
they are.
I don't use "Cir", because I can't draw enough  distinction from "Abt" 
and "Est".

Mike

Michael J Method

phone=  317-284-1303 
family research of: Method, Feehily, Fredrick, Herzog,  tenEyck, Belsley  

 
In a message dated 5/8/2008 2:32:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

In a few  situations I have identified a highly probable death or
burial record for  an individual, but the record isn't strong enough to
stand on its  own.  I still want to record and display this
information, yet clearly  see that it is "probable", still needing
further investigation and  support.

So, I use the surety level, text and comments when documenting  the
source. I also use the angled brackets <> around the dates  and
locations, so they are clearly identified in *most* views  (Family,
Descendant, Chronology), but not the Pedigree view.

In the  Pedigree view, "Cal" and "Abt" show up for the date ranges
after the  individuals, but angled brackets do not. (The option to
display dates in  the Pedigree view is turn on.) In addition, when the
Spouse/Child and  Sibling Lists are displayed in this view, and I click
on Information tab,  the angle bracketed date information is displayed,
but the location is  not.

Also, I noted that in the Master Location List, the locations  with
angled brackets are not displayed. At first, I thought that  the
location was included in the non-bracketed location of the same  name.
However, clicking on the "Show List..." button shows that  the
individual with the bracketed location is not included.

Any  ideas? Thanks.



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RE: [LegacyUG] Living flag changes

2008-05-08 Thread Claire Spinelli

Thanks! Now I get it!

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:39 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Living flag changes

It means that with Advanced Set Living, if someone is marked dead due 
to age, all their ancestors will be marked dead as well.
So if you have someone in your database born 1900 and you choose to 
mark as dead anyone born more than 105 years ago (default is 120 
years but I usually drop this down a bit), they will be marked as 
dead AND all their ancestors will also be marked dead even if they 
have no dates at all.

Cathy

At 08:00 AM 8/05/2008, you wrote:
>Maybe I'm just tired, but what does this mean? "If there are any ancestors
>of a person set to deceased because of age they also will be set to "Not
>Living"
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Bage
>Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 3:41 PM
>To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Living flag changes
>
>Ron,
>
>Thanks for this.
>
>Of course I was referring to the living flag being set to NO and not YES.
In
>addition I wasn't quite clear in my initial statement, in that I meant if
no
>dates were entered against a person they would not be set as "not living".
>
>What I hadn't realised (and I thank you for), is that " If there are any
>ancestors of a person set to deceased because of age they also will be
>set to "Not Living".
>
>Thanks for the assistance.
>
>Regards
>
>Keith
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald
> > ferguson
> > Sent: 07 May 2008 09:38
> > To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Living flag changes
> >
> >
> > Keith,
> >
> > It is incorrect to say that the Set Living function is only any good if
> > there is a date of death, in fact of there was they would not be set to
> > "Living".
> >
> > Legacy will look for dates of birth and set anybody who would have an
> > age greater than a set figure as "Not Living" (the default is 120 years
> > but you can change this in Customise>Options). If there are any
> > ancestors of a person set to deceased because of age they also will be
> > set to "Not Living"
> >
> >
> > Ron Ferguson




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RE: [LegacyUG] Display of probable date and location in Pedigree View

2008-05-08 Thread ronald ferguson


Rich,

I don't use html the point is if I put an angle bracket into my email then 
something, somewhere, may even be Hotmail, decides for itself that it is html 
and strips it. 

To clarify what I am saying, I will use "[" and "]" instead of the respective 
angle brackets; so it is listed as "England], [Not Westmorland" in the Location 
List.


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> Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 12:15:08 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Display of probable date and location in Pedigree View
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>
> You can use Ctrl-c and Ctrl-v and paste the place
> names into the e-mail, you need not use html.
> You said 'this reads "Englandab, abNot Westmorland'
> which I translate to this reads "England], [Not
>> Westmorland or this reads "England[, ]Not
>> Westmorland , which confuses me.
> Rich in LA CA
>
> --- ronald ferguson  wrote:
>
>>
>> Kimberly,
>>
>> I do not use many angle brackets, in fact the only
>> instances I do use them are in connection with the
>> UK 1841 census where a location may be given as "not
>> of this County". I cannot show you the exact
>> arrangement I use as somewhere along the line it
>> will be decided that I am sending html and it will
>> be stripped, so suffice it to say that I put an
>> angle bracket at the start and end with no spaces
>> between the bracket and the first or last letter. If
>> the county was, say, Lancashire then the wording
>> between the brackets would be Not Westmorland,
>> England.
>>
>> In the Location list (which I have set to read from
>> right to left) this reads "Englandab, abNot
>> Westmorland - where ab stands for "angle bracket"
>> and the entry is situated at the end of all my
>> England locations - which leads to the question, are
>> you looking in the correct place?
>>
>> Whether different date formats give different
>> effects I don't know, nor do I use angle brackets
>> but I have just tried changing one of my dates and
>> it works fine. The format I use is "DD Apr ".
>>
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>>
>>
> _
>>
>> New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open
>> Office
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk
>> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
>> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
>>
> _
>>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 14:31:30 -0400
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Display of probable date and
>> location in Pedigree View
>>>
>>> In a few situations I have identified a highly
>> probable death or
>>> burial record for an individual, but the record
>> isn't strong enough to
>>> stand on its own. I still want to record and
>> display this
>>> information, yet clearly see that it is
>> "probable", still needing
>>> further investigation and support.
>>>
>>> So, I use the surety level, text and comments when
>> documenting the
>>> source. I also use the angled brackets <> around
>> the dates and
>>> locations, so they are clearly identified in
>> *most* views (Family,
>>> Descendant, Chronology), but not the Pedigree
>> view.
>>>
>>> In the Pedigree view, "Cal" and "Abt" show up for
>> the date ranges
>>> after the individuals, but angled brackets do not.
>> (The option to
>>> display dates in the Pedigree view is turn on.) In
>> addition, when the
>>> Spouse/Child and Sibling Lists are displayed in
>> this view, and I click
>>> on Information tab, the angle bracketed date
>> information is displayed,
>>> but the location is not.
>>>
>>> Also, I noted that in the Master Location List,
>> the locations with
>>> angled brackets are not displayed. At first, I
>> thought that the
>>> location was included in the non-bracketed
>> location of the same name.
>>> However, clicking on the "Show List..." button
>> shows that the
>>> individual with the bracketed location is not
>> included.
>>>
>>> Any ideas? Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>

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RE: [LegacyUG] Display of probable date and location in Pedigree View

2008-05-08 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES

You can use Ctrl-c and Ctrl-v and paste the place
names into the e-mail, you need not use html. 
You said 'this reads "Englandab, abNot Westmorland'
which I translate to this reads "England], [Not
> Westmorland or this reads "England[, ]Not
> Westmorland , which confuses me. 
Rich in LA CA

--- ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Kimberly,
> 
> I do not use many angle brackets, in fact the only
> instances I do use them are in connection with the
> UK 1841 census where a location may be given as "not
> of this County".  I cannot show you the exact
> arrangement I use as somewhere along the line it
> will be decided that I am sending html and it will
> be stripped, so suffice it to say that I put an
> angle bracket at the start and end with no spaces
> between the bracket and the first or last letter. If
> the county was, say, Lancashire then the wording
> between the brackets would be Not Westmorland,
> England.
> 
> In the Location list (which I have set to read from
> right to left) this reads "Englandab, abNot
> Westmorland - where ab stands for "angle bracket"
> and the entry is situated at the end of all my
> England locations - which leads to the question, are
> you looking in the correct place?
> 
> Whether different date formats give different
> effects I don't know, nor do I use angle brackets
> but I have just tried changing one of my dates and
> it works fine. The format I use is "DD Apr ".
> 
> 
> Ron Ferguson
> 
>
_
> 
> New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open
> Office
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
>
_
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 14:31:30 -0400
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > Subject: [LegacyUG] Display of probable date and
> location in Pedigree View
> >
> > In a few situations I have identified a highly
> probable death or
> > burial record for an individual, but the record
> isn't strong enough to
> > stand on its own. I still want to record and
> display this
> > information, yet clearly see that it is
> "probable", still needing
> > further investigation and support.
> >
> > So, I use the surety level, text and comments when
> documenting the
> > source. I also use the angled brackets <> around
> the dates and
> > locations, so they are clearly identified in
> *most* views (Family,
> > Descendant, Chronology), but not the Pedigree
> view.
> >
> > In the Pedigree view, "Cal" and "Abt" show up for
> the date ranges
> > after the individuals, but angled brackets do not.
> (The option to
> > display dates in the Pedigree view is turn on.) In
> addition, when the
> > Spouse/Child and Sibling Lists are displayed in
> this view, and I click
> > on Information tab, the angle bracketed date
> information is displayed,
> > but the location is not.
> >
> > Also, I noted that in the Master Location List,
> the locations with
> > angled brackets are not displayed. At first, I
> thought that the
> > location was included in the non-bracketed
> location of the same name.
> > However, clicking on the "Show List..." button
> shows that the
> > individual with the bracketed location is not
> included.
> >
> > Any ideas? Thanks.
> >
> >
> 
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Display of probable date and location in Pedigree View

2008-05-08 Thread Kimberly Ryan

OH! I completely missed that in the Master Location List. So, it is
being interpreted as a location, which is a big relief. Thanks!

Still the problem of the display in the Pedigree view. I need to
easily see that a date or location is *probable* - yet in a way that
works in Legacy. I could just work from the other views, but the
Pedigree view works best for me, otherwise. Cal, Abt, Bef, Est... are
all accepted by Legacy, but are not appropriate for this purpose.

2008/5/8 ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>  Kimberly,
>
>  I do not use many angle brackets, in fact the only instances I do use them 
> are in connection with the UK 1841 census where a location may be given as 
> "not of this County".  I cannot show you the exact arrangement I use as 
> somewhere along the line it will be decided that I am sending html and it 
> will be stripped, so suffice it to say that I put an angle bracket at the 
> start and end with no spaces between the bracket and the first or last 
> letter. If the county was, say, Lancashire then the wording between the 
> brackets would be Not Westmorland, England.
>
>  In the Location list (which I have set to read from right to left) this 
> reads "Englandab, abNot Westmorland - where ab stands for "angle bracket" and 
> the entry is situated at the end of all my England locations - which leads to 
> the question, are you looking in the correct place?
>
>  Whether different date formats give different effects I don't know, nor do I 
> use angle brackets but I have just tried changing one of my dates and it 
> works fine. The format I use is "DD Apr ".
>
>
>  Ron Ferguson
>
>  _
>
>  New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office
>  http://www.fergys.co.uk
>  View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
>  http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
>  For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
>  http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
>  _
>
>
>
>  > Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 14:31:30 -0400
>  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>  > Subject: [LegacyUG] Display of probable date and location in Pedigree View
>
>
> >
>  > In a few situations I have identified a highly probable death or
>  > burial record for an individual, but the record isn't strong enough to
>  > stand on its own. I still want to record and display this
>  > information, yet clearly see that it is "probable", still needing
>  > further investigation and support.
>  >
>  > So, I use the surety level, text and comments when documenting the
>  > source. I also use the angled brackets <> around the dates and
>  > locations, so they are clearly identified in *most* views (Family,
>  > Descendant, Chronology), but not the Pedigree view.
>  >
>  > In the Pedigree view, "Cal" and "Abt" show up for the date ranges
>  > after the individuals, but angled brackets do not. (The option to
>  > display dates in the Pedigree view is turn on.) In addition, when the
>  > Spouse/Child and Sibling Lists are displayed in this view, and I click
>  > on Information tab, the angle bracketed date information is displayed,
>  > but the location is not.
>  >
>  > Also, I noted that in the Master Location List, the locations with
>  > angled brackets are not displayed. At first, I thought that the
>  > location was included in the non-bracketed location of the same name.
>  > However, clicking on the "Show List..." button shows that the
>  > individual with the bracketed location is not included.
>  >
>  > Any ideas? Thanks.
>  >
>  >



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RE: [LegacyUG] Living flag changes

2008-05-08 Thread Keith Bage

Yes Ron explained this, and I have to be honest and say I wasn't aware of
this.

Thanks for the tip.

Keith



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy
> Sent: 08 May 2008 03:39
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Living flag changes
> 
> It means that with Advanced Set Living, if someone is marked dead due
> to age, all their ancestors will be marked dead as well.
> So if you have someone in your database born 1900 and you choose to
> mark as dead anyone born more than 105 years ago (default is 120
> years but I usually drop this down a bit), they will be marked as
> dead AND all their ancestors will also be marked dead even if they
> have no dates at all.
> 
> Cathy
> 
> At 08:00 AM 8/05/2008, you wrote:
> >Maybe I'm just tired, but what does this mean? "If there are any
> ancestors
> >of a person set to deceased because of age they also will be set to
> "Not
> >Living"
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith
> Bage
> >Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 3:41 PM
> >To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> >Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Living flag changes
> >
> >Ron,
> >
> >Thanks for this.
> >
> >Of course I was referring to the living flag being set to NO and not
> YES. In
> >addition I wasn't quite clear in my initial statement, in that I meant
> if no
> >dates were entered against a person they would not be set as "not
> living".





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RE: [LegacyUG] Combining data with sources

2008-05-08 Thread Keith Bage

No I wouldn't. Date and place would be enough for me :) I do take your
point, but that would be taking it to silly levels.

As for double entering I don't see this as a huge problem. I'm sure the
source clipboard could be amended to paste the source clipboard to both date
& place fields.

Keith


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy
> Sent: 08 May 2008 06:05
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Combining data with sources
> 
> and would you then split the date into year, month and day?
> and location into country, state/county, town ... ?
> I don't think you've solved the problem of needing to record what was
> actually found in the source by splitting the event into date and
> place for sourcing.
> Also if your source includes both date and place, you need to add it
> twice so you have increased the number of source citations.
> 
> Some other things to think about.
> Cathy
> 
> At 03:32 AM 8/05/2008, you wrote:
> >Cathy,
> >
> >Thanks for the response. I'm glad to see that others are doing
> effectively
> >the same as me. It would be great though if we could source each
> element of
> >the data i.e date & place separately.
> >
> >I have submitted a suggestion on this possibility
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Keith
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Display of probable date and location in Pedigree View

2008-05-08 Thread ronald ferguson


Kimberly,

I do not use many angle brackets, in fact the only instances I do use them are 
in connection with the UK 1841 census where a location may be given as "not of 
this County".  I cannot show you the exact arrangement I use as somewhere along 
the line it will be decided that I am sending html and it will be stripped, so 
suffice it to say that I put an angle bracket at the start and end with no 
spaces between the bracket and the first or last letter. If the county was, 
say, Lancashire then the wording between the brackets would be Not Westmorland, 
England.

In the Location list (which I have set to read from right to left) this reads 
"Englandab, abNot Westmorland - where ab stands for "angle bracket" and the 
entry is situated at the end of all my England locations - which leads to the 
question, are you looking in the correct place?

Whether different date formats give different effects I don't know, nor do I 
use angle brackets but I have just tried changing one of my dates and it works 
fine. The format I use is "DD Apr ".


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> Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 14:31:30 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Display of probable date and location in Pedigree View
>
> In a few situations I have identified a highly probable death or
> burial record for an individual, but the record isn't strong enough to
> stand on its own. I still want to record and display this
> information, yet clearly see that it is "probable", still needing
> further investigation and support.
>
> So, I use the surety level, text and comments when documenting the
> source. I also use the angled brackets <> around the dates and
> locations, so they are clearly identified in *most* views (Family,
> Descendant, Chronology), but not the Pedigree view.
>
> In the Pedigree view, "Cal" and "Abt" show up for the date ranges
> after the individuals, but angled brackets do not. (The option to
> display dates in the Pedigree view is turn on.) In addition, when the
> Spouse/Child and Sibling Lists are displayed in this view, and I click
> on Information tab, the angle bracketed date information is displayed,
> but the location is not.
>
> Also, I noted that in the Master Location List, the locations with
> angled brackets are not displayed. At first, I thought that the
> location was included in the non-bracketed location of the same name.
> However, clicking on the "Show List..." button shows that the
> individual with the bracketed location is not included.
>
> Any ideas? Thanks.
>
>

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[LegacyUG] Display of probable date and location in Pedigree View

2008-05-08 Thread Kimberly Ryan

In a few situations I have identified a highly probable death or
burial record for an individual, but the record isn't strong enough to
stand on its own.  I still want to record and display this
information, yet clearly see that it is "probable", still needing
further investigation and support.

So, I use the surety level, text and comments when documenting the
source. I also use the angled brackets <> around the dates and
locations, so they are clearly identified in *most* views (Family,
Descendant, Chronology), but not the Pedigree view.

In the Pedigree view, "Cal" and "Abt" show up for the date ranges
after the individuals, but angled brackets do not. (The option to
display dates in the Pedigree view is turn on.) In addition, when the
Spouse/Child and Sibling Lists are displayed in this view, and I click
on Information tab, the angle bracketed date information is displayed,
but the location is not.

Also, I noted that in the Master Location List, the locations with
angled brackets are not displayed. At first, I thought that the
location was included in the non-bracketed location of the same name.
However, clicking on the "Show List..." button shows that the
individual with the bracketed location is not included.

Any ideas? Thanks.



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RE: [LegacyUG] Error Message #3021

2008-05-08 Thread Sherry/Support

Carol,

Go to our website at http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Solutions by
Error Number, where you'll find a solution to this error message, among
others.

While you're on the Legacy website, check out the options under the Help
Center menu - the Tips is a great place to learn how to use Legacy!  And on
the Videos menu, take a look at the videos - you can view a couple of free
videos "Legacy for Beginners" and "What's New in 6.0" as well as preview
other training videos that we offer.

Thanks for using Legacy.

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Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 7:55 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Error Message #3021

I'm totally new to Legacy after having been a Rootsweb user for 8 years. I
have a database of 63,000 plus names and am struggling a tad and will
appreciate any advice you may have for me.
 
When I try to add a spouse or father/mother, I get an error message "3021:
Error getting next deleted RIN". Legacy asks me if I want to try again or
quit. I also hit "no" and it allows me to enter the name.
 
What on earth does this message mean and what am I messing up by hitting the
"no" button?
 
Thanks,
Carol in Arizona
 




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[LegacyUG] Error Message #3021

2008-05-08 Thread Scrapcat2

I'm totally new to Legacy after having been a Rootsweb user for 8 years. I  
have a database of 63,000 plus names and am struggling a tad and will 
appreciate  any advice you may have for me.
 
When I try to add a spouse or father/mother, I get an error message "3021:  
Error getting next deleted RIN". Legacy asks me if I want to try again or quit. 
 I also hit "no" and it allows me to enter the name.
 
What on earth does this message mean and what am I messing up by hitting  the 
"no" button?
 
Thanks,
Carol in Arizona
 
 



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[LegacyUG] Re: [LegacyUserGroup] (No Subject)

2008-05-08 Thread Jenny M Benson


MICHELLE CROSBY wrote
Earlier this week there was a posting regarding ID numbers and RIN's  - 
exactly, how does one go about assigning ID numbers
I want to do Initials of the person along with their RIN's  IE... 
RJC1 ,  BLE2  
I went to Options, Customize then other, I found where you can create 
User ID numbers by having the RIN copied into the field with optional 
text-  My question is how to you get the optional text- do you have to 
do this for each individual or is there a command that will allow the 
family data base to just take the name or initials along with the RIN.


The bit you found in Options, Customise only works if you want to add 
the same text to all RINs to create your UserID.  I don't think this is 
very helpful as I can't imagine anyone actually wanting to do this! 
(Which is bound to prompt posts from several people saying that is 
exactly what they do want!)


On the Options, Customise, View tab, under "Display RINS on Names" I 
have both radio buttons checked, and a check for displaying UserID added 
to names.  When you open an Individual's screen there is a place for 
entering the UserID and with the above settings, the person's RIN will 
be displayed at the top of the screen.


Because my UserIDs are a prefix and the RIN, when I am creating a new 
record I just type my desired prefix into the UserID box and then copy 
the RIN as shown at the top of the window.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Another Search Problem

2008-05-08 Thread Jenny M Benson


Cathy wrote
Try searching on Source Citation which is the Source Detail including 
Source Detail text


Where are you finding the option to search Source Detail?

It's not in the "normal" search list and although in Search and Replace 
one can search for words entered in any part of the Citation (Details, 
Text, Comments, etc) it does not show which person's record is being 
changed.

--
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[LegacyUG] RE: PROF DR. Alvaro Hern Re asking for recipts per lLeagacy messages

2008-05-08 Thread Prof. Dr. Alvaro Hernandez

Hi Shirl and everybody else:
 
I apologize for the incovenience.
 
I´ll make sure that such option will be disabled in the future.
 
(If the procedure worked for this e-mail it means I´m doing the right thing)
 
Best.
 
Al

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Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 8:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: PROF DR. Alvaro Hern Re asking for recipts per lLeagacy messages


Prof.Dr.Alvaro Hern:
Would be so kind sir as to refrain from asking for receipts every time you
send a message to the legacy list. Its most annoying.
And it means every  perosn   who gets leagacy mail would be having the  same
windpow pop up.
 
Thuis is not necessary for you to do sir when   sending m,essages to a
group; but much rather meany for personal messages.
 
Thanks  so very much  for being  considerate of others in the future. Shirl
 





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Re: Fw: [LegacyUG] [LegacyUserGroup] List SubscriptionNotification

2008-05-08 Thread JLB

Is this a contest?  What do you people do when you have *real* problems 
in your life?


JL, who hopes this is over when I wake up tomorrow.

HLeBblanc wrote:

Would you believe 114?

Heather in rainy Montreal


Wha's this all about? I've received a dozen or more of the following
e-mail overnight.


Make that at least 2 dozen as far as we are concerned.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Repeated emails.

2008-05-08 Thread David Fretwell

Marilyn wrote:
>I would guess the system hicupped and agree it may have to do with
>getting ready for the release of version 7.

Goodness me, does that mean every time a company updates their software, we'll 
all be inundated with blank emails?
What a load of twaddle... - version 7 is probably months away yet.

David






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Re: [LegacyUG] [LegacyUserGroup] List Subscription Notification

2008-05-08 Thread JLB


With all due respect, have we beaten this subject to death yet?
--
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Ann Parsons wrote:

Sherry,
With all due respect Jim's message did not arrive in my email until after 1 
pm today.

Ann


- Original Message - 
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To: 
Cc: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 4:57 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] [LegacyUserGroup] List Subscription Notification




Sherry,

I can't speak for Carl but I haven't seen any of the emails from Jim. I also 
know that it is taking hours, nay at least a day, for my emails to get 
through - if they get through at all.


Nevertheless I recognise that Legacy must have a problem and am quite happy 
to leave it to the company to sort out.



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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] [LegacyUserGroup] List Subscription Notification
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 21:10:17 -0700

Carl,

Have you not seen the FOUR emails that Jim Terry sent to the group about
this today at 9:08 am, 1:41 pm, 5:28 pm and 5:52 pm?

Thanks for using Legacy.

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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] [LegacyUserGroup] List Subscription Notification

<>

I have expected someone from Legacy to tell us something by now.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Combining data with sources

2008-05-08 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES

What I do is, for each fact I use a Source and in the
Source detail I put a 'transcription' of the 'part' of
the date/place found there. Example: a tombstone may
have only years, and initials instead of full name. So
each of the two or three sources can show what it
has/doesn't have.
Rich in LA CA
--- Keith Bage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How do others handle the situation where you have
> one piece of info from one
> source and one from another that combine into one
> field. I'm not explaining
> this well so let me give an example.
> 
>  
> 
> I have a death date from source #1.
> 
> I have a death location from source #2.
> 
> If I allocate a source to the death date (source
> 1)the date AND location are
> highlighted to indicate they are from the same
> source. If I then add source
> 2 that appears to relate to the date as well as the
> location.
> 
>  
> 
> So, can I combine the date & location OR should they
> be in separate "events"
> i.e alt.death
> 
>  
> 
> Appologies for the explanation (it's late).
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks for any assistance.
> 
>  
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 out on 05-10-2008

2008-05-08 Thread Gary Templeman

Actually, no you won't. Geoff posted a correction to clarify that he did NOT 
state the release date was May 10, only that it is "soon". Michelle, you 
will be able to download v. 7 as soon as it is released. A date of May 10th 
has not been officially announced.


Gary Templeman

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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 out on 05-10-2008


Yes you will.

Jim


On 5/7/08, MICHELLE CROSBY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 2 weeks ago I updated to 6 will I be able to download 7 on May 10?

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*Sent:* Tuesday, May 06, 2008 1:48 PM
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 out on 05-10-2008


I'm expecting a list myself.  Due to the anticipated excessive
downloading, people with surnames A-C may download from 10-11 am,
surnames D & E from 11 til noon, ...
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Penny wrote:
> I can almost feel the baited-breath of people on this list from my
> computer desk.  Hear us thinking:  Is that the date?  Could that
> possibly be the date?  Are you sure?  How sure are you?  Will Legacy
> soon confirm it?  Oh, the anxiety! the anticipation! the itch one
> cannot scratch ... quite yet!  I swear, it's worse than being six
> years old and the date being December 23. 
>
> Penny
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>
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>
> Hi,
>
> last weekend Geoff told me, that Legacy 7 will be available for dl on
> May, 10th 2008!
>
> IŽm so excited...
>
> Yours
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Combining data with sources

2008-05-08 Thread Janis Gilmore

Clearly we need to restrain annoyance with those who continue (as it would
appear) to write in about their influx of subscription messages.

I posted to the list at 10-something AM this morning, and my message just
came through, shortly before 9 this evening. (My message was in regard to
sourcing death events, not anything to do with the server problem.)

To the Legacy folks, gee, you sound a bit like you got up on the wrong side
of the bed. :-) You should be aware that the messages are getting through
both unevenly, and very slowly.

Janis Walker Gilmore

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janis
Gilmore
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 10:10 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Combining data with sources

Keith, I would love to be able to source the date and place separately; they
do not always come from the same document, as in your example. Until such
time that Legacy changes this feature, I have found it best to include a
short note in the comments section of the source detail, indicating which
bit came from which attached/listed source.

Janis

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Bage
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 6:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Combining data with sources

How do others handle the situation where you have one piece of info from one
source and one from another that combine into one field. I'm not explaining
this well so let me give an example.

I have a death date from source #1.
I have a death location from source #2.
If I allocate a source to the death date (source 1)the date AND location are
highlighted to indicate they are from the same source. If I then add source
2 that appears to relate to the date as well as the location.

So, can I combine the date & location OR should they be in separate "events"
i.e alt.death




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