Re: [LegacyUG] One couple, two divorces

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

The dates of the four events should show it is not duplicates, and in the first 
marriage you are a 1/2 child of them, the second a full child. A quirk of 
computers.
Rich in LA CA


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 Subject: [LegacyUG] One couple, two divorces
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 8:54 AM
 My husband's parents married, had no children, divorced.
 Then 2 yrs later married, had 2 children, then divorced. How
 do I record this in the marriage info? I have them listed
 with the second marriage info and under status as divorced
 with the info of that divorce. How do I record the first
 marriage correctly so that no one will think I made a
 mistake by recording two marriages, and two divorces? Any
 ideas?
 
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[LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

[Kris]

What's the best way to source a relationship?  Do you go to Children's 
Settings?  When I set the reports to show the Child Status or 
Child-Parent Relationships, the report is so -- messy?


I was, for example, citing the birth certificate for the parent's 
name.  Don't know how long it took me to figure out *that* was a bad 
idea.  That doesn't really work, and it's pretty ambiguous.


Of course, a birth certificate is usually pretty cut and dried, but if 
I'm thinking I've established a parent/child relationship by other 
means, what's the best way to source it?


Am I missing something obvious here?

TIA

Kris


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Re: [LegacyUG] Children's settings - step, adopted, twin etc

[Terri Brown]

If the box next to  Don't show Married is left unchecked you will see 
(Married) next to the date of each married couple in your database after the 
marriage date in Family View. If you check the box you will not see it.

Box not checked: 18 June 1867 - Cincinnati, Hamilton County, Ohio, USA (Married)
Box checked: 18 June 1867 - Cincinnati, Hamilton County, Ohio, USA

Not a big deal. Just a matter of personal preference, I think.

Terri



- Original Message 
From: Jan Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 7:56:48 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Children's settings - step, adopted, twin etc

I have just had a bit of a play with this - and if you have designated a
Child Status it does indeed show beside the children's names in Family View
(very helpful if you also have 1/2 children showing because it reads - First
Name Middle Name SURNAME [RIN] (Birth year / Death Year) (Child Status - in
my case the user generated terms of Step-son / daughter of xyz) (name of
other natural parent).  Just as Linda McCauley said.

However - when I went into Options  Customise  View to check if I had it
set to show status I noticed a check box for Don't show Married.  It was
ticked.  But what does it actually do?  Unticking it didn't make any
noticeable change to the Family View - but I'm not sure what it is meant to
affect.  Does anyone know?

Cheers,
Jan

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald
ferguson
Sent: Saturday, 18 October 2008 6:49:PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Childrens settings - step, adopted, twin etc


Mark,

If you go to OptionsCustomiseView there is a check box for showing child
status, however in v7 at least it doesn't seem to do anything, not on my set
up at anyrate. It is not something I have used so I don't know what it
should do and there is nothing to assist in the Help Files.

To test it again I made my daughter adopted and nothing showed, and this is
not because I have columns of kids! Whether other symbols affect the output
I don't know.

I would suggest that perhaps Legacy could give a definative answer?


Ron Ferguson

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RE: [LegacyUG] Childrens settings - step, adopted, twin etc

[glove]

I have a number of twins and one adopted child in my tree. They all show on
the family view with the words 'Adopted' or 'Twin' in parentheses after the
name/year. Is this the same issue? If so I must be doing something
differently.
Graham

Mark,

If you go to OptionsCustomiseView there is a check box for showing child
status, however in v7 at least it doesn't seem to do anything, not on my set
up at anyrate. It is not something I have used so I don't know what it
should do and there is nothing to assist in the Help Files.

To test it again I made my daughter adopted and nothing showed, and this is
not because I have columns of kids! Whether other symbols affect the output
I don't know.

I would suggest that perhaps Legacy could give a definative answer?


Ron Ferguson




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Re: [LegacyUG] HTML/ Plaintext

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Yes, but your server has its own instructions.
Rich in LA CA


--- On Fri, 10/17/08, Lucky Belinfante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Lucky Belinfante [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [LegacyUG] HTML/ Plaintext
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 10:15 PM
 Mark
 
 I am a brand new PC/internet /techno person, so may be
 wrong.
 I was taught to change from HTML to plain text by going to
 format on your 
 message and clicking on 'plain text'
 
 Hoping I can be a help for once
 
 Lucky
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mark K
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:00 AM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Childrens settings - step, adopted,
 twin etc
 
 
 Thanks
 I'm using hotmail, and didn't realise it was
 sending in html.  I don't know 
 how to tell it not to send in html but will do a search on
 it.
 
 As you say this does show if they are twins but not if they
 are adopted or 
 step children.
 
 What I had to do was to go in and create a new category in
 the child status 
 box to show the description, in this case step.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Childrens settings - step,
 adopted, twin etc
  Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:33:35 -0800
 
  Mark, now that it has been pointed out to me, Legacy
 does not do this by
  color, but, in fact, uses the wording after the
 child's name. Go to
  OptionsCustomizeView. In the lower right
 corner you can select Show
  Status on Family View. (By the way, we are
 supposed to post messages in
  text format only, not html.)
 
  Elizabeth
  researching the descendants of William and Sarah
 (Patterson) Thompson
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark K
  To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 7:26 PM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Childrens settings - step,
 adopted, twin etc
 
 
  Ron where do I select what colors to show each
 different child 
  relationship.
  I have looked several times.
 
  I have managed to color by sex but I cannot find where
 it does this by
  relationship - twin, adopted etc as you have been able
 to.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:43:45 -0400
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Childrens settings - step,
 adopted, twin etc
 
 
  It displays automatically if you have it selected.
 
 
  On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Mark K
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I used windows reunion many years ago and it displayed
 the male children 
  in
  square boxes and female children in rounded boxes.
 
  It then coloured the boxes depending on the status of
 child ie twins,
  adopted etc
 
  Is there any way to display the status of the children
 in the family view?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Children's settings - step, adopted, twin etc

[Jan Roberts]

Ahh! Now I see.  BUT – you have to have nominated Married in the status box
on the Marriage info screen – and as it says “If Married leave blank” I have
never nominated Married as a status.

Cheers,
Jan
 
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald
ferguson
Sent: Sunday, 19 October 2008 11:12:AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Children's settings - step, adopted, twin etc


Jan,

Well since I haven't managed to get the child status to show on Family View
(not that I'm bothered as I don't use it) I am not sure that I am a good
guide, but on mine when it is not checked it displays married on the bar
with the marriage details on ie. the one between the kids and parents.


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Children's settings - step, adopted, twin etc
 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 10:56:48 +1100

 I have just had a bit of a play with this - and if you have designated a
 Child Status it does indeed show beside the children's names in Family
View
 (very helpful if you also have 1/2 children showing because it reads -
First
 Name Middle Name SURNAME [RIN] (Birth year / Death Year) (Child Status -
in
 my case the user generated terms of Step-son / daughter of xyz) (name of
 other natural parent). Just as Linda McCauley said.

 However - when I went into Options Customise View to check if I had it
 set to show status I noticed a check box for Don't show Married. It was
 ticked. But what does it actually do? Unticking it didn't make any
 noticeable change to the Family View - but I'm not sure what it is meant
to
 affect. Does anyone know?

 Cheers,
 Jan

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald
 ferguson
 Sent: Saturday, 18 October 2008 6:49:PM
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Childrens settings - step, adopted, twin etc


 Mark,

 If you go to OptionsCustomiseView there is a check box for showing child
 status, however in v7 at least it doesn't seem to do anything, not on my
set
 up at anyrate. It is not something I have used so I don't know what it
 should do and there is nothing to assist in the Help Files.

 To test it again I made my daughter adopted and nothing showed, and this
is
 not because I have columns of kids! Whether other symbols affect the
output
 I don't know.

 I would suggest that perhaps Legacy could give a definative answer?


 Ron Ferguson

 
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[LegacyUG] Repeats

[Geoff Semmens]

I seem to be receiving two sets of messages, not as duplicates but sent at
different times. Is there a glitch in the server? I know the topic was about
twins and siblings but I did not think the server was responding. May be it
wanted to emphasis the superiority of Legacy over *** (name hidden to save
the server embarrassment!)

 

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RE: [LegacyUG] Repeats

[ronald ferguson]

Geoff,

Don't worry about it as there seems to have been a glitch! I have also been 
told twice that I am not registered and need to before I can send messages - I 
don't.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Repeats
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 09:01:41 +0100







I seem to be receiving two sets of messages, not as duplicates but sent at 
different times. Is there a glitch in the server? I know the topic was about 
twins and siblings but I did not think the server was responding. May be it 
wanted to emphasis the superiority of Legacy over *** (name hidden to save the 
server embarrassment!)





Geoff TWO (The Welsh One)





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RE: [LegacyUG] Children's settings - step, adopted, twin etc

[ronald ferguson]

Jan,

This is not the case with mine, where I have no marriage information it says 
Marriage Information (Married). Or, for a couple where did not marry is 
checked then Did not Marry is there.

I'm trying to think what else may affect this, In OptionsCustomiseView I have 
sett the details I require using the Edit Default Marriage Wording button and 
I also put the married addresses under the Marriage events rather than 
individual events. Otherwise I am rather at a loss.


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Children's settings - step, adopted, twin etc
 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:28:25 +1100

 Ahh! Now I see. BUT – you have to have nominated Married in the status box
 on the Marriage info screen – and as it says “If Married leave blank” I have
 never nominated Married as a status.

 Cheers,
 Jan

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald
 ferguson
 Sent: Sunday, 19 October 2008 11:12:AM
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Children's settings - step, adopted, twin etc


 Jan,

 Well since I haven't managed to get the child status to show on Family View
 (not that I'm bothered as I don't use it) I am not sure that I am a good
 guide, but on mine when it is not checked it displays married on the bar
 with the marriage details on ie. the one between the kids and parents.


 Ron Ferguson

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Children's settings - step, adopted, twin etc
 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 10:56:48 +1100

 I have just had a bit of a play with this - and if you have designated a
 Child Status it does indeed show beside the children's names in Family
 View
 (very helpful if you also have 1/2 children showing because it reads -
 First
 Name Middle Name SURNAME [RIN] (Birth year / Death Year) (Child Status -
 in
 my case the user generated terms of Step-son / daughter of xyz) (name of
 other natural parent). Just as Linda McCauley said.

 However - when I went into Options Customise View to check if I had it
 set to show status I noticed a check box for Don't show Married. It was
 ticked. But what does it actually do? Unticking it didn't make any
 noticeable change to the Family View - but I'm not sure what it is meant
 to
 affect. Does anyone know?

 Cheers,
 Jan

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald
 ferguson
 Sent: Saturday, 18 October 2008 6:49:PM
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Childrens settings - step, adopted, twin etc


 Mark,

 If you go to OptionsCustomiseView there is a check box for showing child
 status, however in v7 at least it doesn't seem to do anything, not on my
 set
 up at anyrate. It is not something I have used so I don't know what it
 should do and there is nothing to assist in the Help Files.

 To test it again I made my daughter adopted and nothing showed, and this
 is
 not because I have columns of kids! Whether other symbols affect the
 output
 I don't know.

 I would suggest that perhaps Legacy could give a definative answer?


 Ron Ferguson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Considering purchasing GenSmarts Personal Historian

[Bruce McArthur]

Hi

I have Gensmarts but after looking at it for a while I have never seriously 
used it, mainly for the reasons you outline (I live in the UK) but also 
because I prefer to use my brain, and you can find most of the information 
on the internet or in local record offices.  Also it seemed to keep flagging 
things that I had clearly already found because the event/tag was in my 
database.


Never heard of Personal Historian.  Doesn't sound any better than a word 
processor to me.


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RE: [LegacyUG] Slightly off topic - re ancestry.com

[ronald ferguson]

Bill,

You should ask Ancestry this question, I have always found them very 
responsive, even if when I phone them in the England they do transfer me to the 
States (at their expense).


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Subject: [LegacyUG] Slightly off topic - re ancestry.com
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 08:28:42 -0400







Hello, does anyone know what happens if I close my account and stop paying the 
monthly fee for ancestry.com


Does all my information disappear?  Can I re-start my subscription account when 
I have more time to do ancestry research?


I just don’t have the time right now and won’t have the time for several 
months, but it seems a waste of money if I have


to continue to pay each month and not even log onto the site.





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[LegacyUG] Updating from 7.0.0.45 to 7.0.0.55

[Lhite31]

Hello List.
I went to Legacy Home this morning to check for up updates, but when I  
clicked on update it went to 7% and stopped responding. I tried again with the  
same results. I then went to Legacy Home page to down load it. I clicked on  
download updates, but it wound up downloading the whole Legacy program. Is that 
 
the only way to download an update, by downloading the complete program? If so  
then I will not be getting any updates as I am on dialup and it takes forever 
to  download a file that big.
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Updating from 7.0.0.45 to 7.0.0.55

[Mike Fry]

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I went to Legacy Home this morning to check for up updates, but when I 
clicked on update it went to 7% and stopped responding. I tried again 
with the same results. I then went to Legacy Home page to down load it. 
I clicked on download updates, but it wound up downloading the whole 
Legacy program. Is that the only way to download an update, by 
downloading the complete program? If so then I will not be getting any 
updates as I am on dialup and it takes forever to download a file that big.


Sometimes, yes! Normally, no.

Sometimes, the download progress indicator appears to 'stall' at some 
percentage. This is because the percentage complete is calculated from 
the total size of the items downloaded to date. When a large item (e.g. 
the program) is downloaded, the percentage doesn't get updated until the 
whole program has been downloaded. This is why the process appears to 
have stalled.


Simply leave it running for some time. This also seems to happen to 
people on slower DSL connections because of the same reason.


--
Regards,
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Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

[JLB]

Without understanding what you're doing so far, I will hazard a guess. 
You've probably noticed that on the Assigned Sources screen for each 
individual there are options for Father Rel: and Mother Rel:. This is 
where I put sources that clearly define the Parent/Child relationship. 
If you click on either of those and then either the large button that 
says Cite a Master Source or Add a New Source that would be where to put 
your source.


Why your reports are 'messy' I can also only guess. Is this related to 
report problems for which we're awaiting the program update still?


I don't know why you'd find birth certificate a 'bad idea' for a source. 
I use it all the time myself. Also Death certificates.


The Childrens' Settings source button will take you to Child Status. 
Unless this is other than 'natural' I don't bother with it.


OK, having said all that, I can see that I still don't understand your 
problem.

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Kris wrote:


What's the best way to source a relationship? Do you go to Children's 
Settings? When I set the reports to show the Child Status or 
Child-Parent Relationships, the report is so -- messy?


I was, for example, citing the birth certificate for the parent's 
name. Don't know how long it took me to figure out *that* was a bad 
idea. That doesn't really work, and it's pretty ambiguous.


Of course, a birth certificate is usually pretty cut and dried, but if 
I'm thinking I've established a parent/child relationship by other 
means, what's the best way to source it?


Am I missing something obvious here?

TIA

Kris


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Re: [LegacyUG] Advice: How to source two different entries for same person event in FamilySearch Labs

[Ann Parsons]

Terri,

I appreciate and will take your advice and put the notations in the Source 
Detail comments. I especially appreciate your mentioning that you have seen 
pages filmed twice. I noticed items that were clearly one thing in the image 
different on the printout. Charles E. being Charles C. comes to mind. 
Nevertheless I appreciate the time and work to have these records available. 
I find the only person that doesn't make a mistake is the one that isn't 
doing anything.

Thank you,
Ann

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Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advice: How to source two different entries for same 
person  event in FamilySearch Labs


Ann,

I would make appropriate notations in the Comments section of the Source 
Detail and attach both images. I would also to note the volume and page 
number in the original record.

Apparently the record was filmed twice. I've noticed that in other LDS 
microfilm. Sometimes they filmed pages twice and sometimes they missed pages 
completely.

Terri





From: Ann Parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:43:01 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Advice: How to source two different entries for same 
person  event in FamilySearch Labs


I have the printout  digital image from FamilySearch Labs. This is a page 
from the Oakland County Michigan Marriage Register. The printout in the same 
except the grooms age, birth year image number and Reference number.

The first printout has Groom age 24 years; Groom birth year 1849; Image 
number 15; Reference number v. 1 p34 rn 1650.
The second printout has Groom age 25 years; Groom birth year 1848; Image 
number 624; reference number v. 2 p34 rn 1650

The first image clearly has the groom's age 24. The second image is exactly 
the same as the first one except the right hand sheet overlaps the left hand 
sheet making the age appear to be 25. No where on either image does it give 
a birth year for the groom. Both entries are on lines 10, 11  12. The 
notations are the same at the bottom and top of both images.

A family member went to the Oakland County courthouse and looked at the 
entry. The grooms age is 24, however they said it was on page 117 of book i. 
The images do not have a page number written on them, there is a stamped 34.

There is no explanation on the FamilySearch Labs printouts as to why there 
are two entries.

I thought about having one source with notes explaining the two entries and 
why I think the age 24 printout is correct, also that FamilySearch Labs 
offers no explanation why there are two entries.

I would appreciate ideas on how you would source this type of situation.

Thank you,
Ann
New Mexico, USA







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Re: [LegacyUG] entering first-person

[Bob Meadow]

Just , appreciated the name SHEETSmy g/ Was Susan Sheets from NC. Husband 
Frank Tyree
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From: Connie Sheets [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] entering first-person


The numbers that are printed by Legacy on a pedigree chart have absolutely 
nothing to do with RINs, or who you enter first.  (Pedigree charts will 
always be appropriately numbered regardless of whose pedigree chart you 
print).


I completely ignore RINs and MRINs.  The only value they have, in my 
opinion, is for people who choose to file their paper files by number (I'm 
an alphabetical person).  And possibly, in some cases, to help distinguish 
two people of the same name (though I use other means, like their birth 
dates or spouse name, to make that distinction).


Otherwise, they are just something else to clutter the brain, IMO.

It doesn't matter who you enter first; you could start with a 3rd cousin 
twice removed.  If you decide you do have a use for the RINs, you can always 
change them later if you don't like how they are automatically assigned.


Connie Sheets
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Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

[Kris]

Hi, JLB --

I was surprised to see this response since I've been getting you are 
not permitted to post notices from the mail server.


JLB wrote:
Without understanding what you're doing so far, I will hazard a guess. 
You've probably noticed that on the Assigned Sources screen for each 
individual there are options for Father Rel: and Mother Rel:. This is 
where I put sources that clearly define the Parent/Child relationship. 
If you click on either of those and then either the large button that 
says Cite a Master Source or Add a New Source that would be where to put 
your source.


Yes, this is what I'm talking about.

Why your reports are 'messy' I can also only guess. Is this related to 
report problems for which we're awaiting the program update still?


Even though I quit following all the report problem threads a long 
time ago, I don't think it has anything to do with the coming update. 
I do, however, have a private person appearing in reports -- is 
this one of the known problems?  I've only just geared up again 
after taking a break for a few months, so I'm waiting for the update, 
too, before I ask about any glitches.


What I'm talking about is an entry like this, from the Ancestor Book 
report:


The child from this marriage was:

   i.  John Doe (Relationship to Father: Biological,(3) 
Relationship to Mother: Biological (3) ) was born on 1 January 1902.(3)


I'd like the fact that the relationship *is* sourced to appear some 
way -- but I don't like *this* way.  If it's just for my own 
information, it works fine in family group records and the like.  But 
if I send an Ancestor Book or Descendant Book to someone else, this 
looks like a clunky way to show that I have proof of the parent/child 
relationship.  I just wanted to know if there was another way to do it 
that would appear more elegantly in narrative reports.


I don't know why you'd find birth certificate a 'bad idea' for a source. 
I use it all the time myself. Also Death certificates.


Of course I don't think using a birth certificate is a bad idea.  That 
was a poorly worded sentence.  That's why I hate posting stuff -- I 
never seem to express myself very well.  It's applying the source to 
the parent's Given or Surname field that's a bad idea.  Sorry 
about that!


The Childrens' Settings source button will take you to Child Status. 
Unless this is other than 'natural' I don't bother with it.


Me either.

OK, having said all that, I can see that I still don't understand your 
problem.


Well, thanks for trying!  Otherwise I wouldn't have known my message 
even made it to the list -- I don't get my own messages using GMail. 
Don't know why the mail server is sending me all these messages, but 
then tells me I need to subscribe to post.  ;-)


Does the additional information help at all?

Kris


Kris wrote:


What's the best way to source a relationship? Do you go to Children's 
Settings? When I set the reports to show the Child Status or 
Child-Parent Relationships, the report is so -- messy?


I was, for example, citing the birth certificate for the parent's 
name. Don't know how long it took me to figure out *that* was a bad 
idea. That doesn't really work, and it's pretty ambiguous.


Of course, a birth certificate is usually pretty cut and dried, but if 
I'm thinking I've established a parent/child relationship by other 
means, what's the best way to source it?


Am I missing something obvious here?

TIA

Kris



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RE: [LegacyUG] [LegacyUserGroup] List Posting Error Notification

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RE: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

[ronald ferguson]

Kris,

You can turn the publication of sources in reports on and off. Click on Report 
Options and have a look. You will obviously find the switch for sources under 
the Sources Tab.

If you haven't received it I replied to your off-list email some 10hrs ago!


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 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 12:51:58 -0500
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

 Hi, JLB --

 I was surprised to see this response since I've been getting you are
 not permitted to post notices from the mail server.

 JLB wrote:
 Without understanding what you're doing so far, I will hazard a guess.
 You've probably noticed that on the Assigned Sources screen for each
 individual there are options for Father Rel: and Mother Rel:. This is
 where I put sources that clearly define the Parent/Child relationship.
 If you click on either of those and then either the large button that
 says Cite a Master Source or Add a New Source that would be where to put
 your source.

 Yes, this is what I'm talking about.

 Why your reports are 'messy' I can also only guess. Is this related to
 report problems for which we're awaiting the program update still?

 Even though I quit following all the report problem threads a long
 time ago, I don't think it has anything to do with the coming update.
 I do, however, have a private person appearing in reports -- is
 this one of the known problems? I've only just geared up again
 after taking a break for a few months, so I'm waiting for the update,
 too, before I ask about any glitches.

 What I'm talking about is an entry like this, from the Ancestor Book
 report:

 The child from this marriage was:

 i. John Doe (Relationship to Father: Biological,(3)
 Relationship to Mother: Biological (3) ) was born on 1 January 1902.(3)

 I'd like the fact that the relationship *is* sourced to appear some
 way -- but I don't like *this* way. If it's just for my own
 information, it works fine in family group records and the like. But
 if I send an Ancestor Book or Descendant Book to someone else, this
 looks like a clunky way to show that I have proof of the parent/child
 relationship. I just wanted to know if there was another way to do it
 that would appear more elegantly in narrative reports.

 I don't know why you'd find birth certificate a 'bad idea' for a source.
 I use it all the time myself. Also Death certificates.

 Of course I don't think using a birth certificate is a bad idea. That
 was a poorly worded sentence. That's why I hate posting stuff -- I
 never seem to express myself very well. It's applying the source to
 the parent's Given or Surname field that's a bad idea. Sorry
 about that!

 The Childrens' Settings source button will take you to Child Status.
 Unless this is other than 'natural' I don't bother with it.

 Me either.

 OK, having said all that, I can see that I still don't understand your
 problem.

 Well, thanks for trying! Otherwise I wouldn't have known my message
 even made it to the list -- I don't get my own messages using GMail.
 Don't know why the mail server is sending me all these messages, but
 then tells me I need to subscribe to post. ;-)

 Does the additional information help at all?

 Kris

 Kris wrote:

 What's the best way to source a relationship? Do you go to Children's
 Settings? When I set the reports to show the Child Status or
 Child-Parent Relationships, the report is so -- messy?

 I was, for example, citing the birth certificate for the parent's
 name. Don't know how long it took me to figure out *that* was a bad
 idea. That doesn't really work, and it's pretty ambiguous.

 Of course, a birth certificate is usually pretty cut and dried, but if
 I'm thinking I've established a parent/child relationship by other
 means, what's the best way to source it?

 Am I missing something obvious here?

 TIA

 Kris


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RE: [LegacyUG] [LegacyUserGroup] List Posting Error Notification

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You have. Those messages asking for reregistration are going to everybody (or 
nearly) - ignore them.


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[LegacyUG] Funeral service papers and how to Cite

[Sheri Harris]

I have found in some of my late grandmothers photos, etc., a transcription
of a funeral service for her uncle, who was very prominent in the church and
community. The subject died in 1944 and the papers I'm sure are not original
as she had a couple of sets and do not seem to be carbon copies. However,
these copies are now about 50 years old. It's several pages long on legal
size paper and has been typewritten, probably by someone in the church, but
nothing notated as who typed it, etc. I have re-typed it just as it has been
typed, into a word document as to preserve the event, since I cannot scan
these papers due to the size (it's limitations with my scanner). I have
created a PDF file of the word document and attached it to the event. In EE,
it explains how to do funeral extracts by the funeral home, but I don't know
if the funeral home did this or the church, or if this is an extract. So my
question is, how would I cite this document? Using v7.

Thanks in advance!!

Sheri 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Repeats

[Donna Felina Roach]

I seem to have a computer that is open to suggestions. Now I also am 
receiving duplicate messages.  Mine are word for word duplicates.


Donna
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I seem to be receiving two sets of messages, not as duplicates but sent at 
different times. Is there a glitch in the server? I know the topic was about 
twins and siblings but I did not think the server was responding. May be it 
wanted to emphasis the superiority of Legacy over *** (name hidden to save 
the server embarrassment!)


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RE: [LegacyUG] Childrens settings - step, adopted, twin etc

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I believe it doesn't exist. The only color choices I know of are, the 
'grandparents', meaning four colors, one for each of the 4 grandparents and 
their line, or changing any title's color universally (birth, death). The style 
you are asking about seems to be (kind of) based on German vital records, which 
instead if words, have symbols meaning the BMD titles. If you want to make 
reports using that color system, you would have to edit in a 'word'-like 
program and change the colors from the palettes in that system's toolbox.
Rich in LA CA

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 From: Mark K [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Childrens settings - step, adopted, twin etc
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 4:41 PM
 Well I have looked in the help and to options-cusotomise and
 have missed it
  
 Can someone please tell me where I select this option
 
 
 
 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:43:45 -0400From:
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [LegacyUG]
 Childrens settings - step, adopted, twin etc
 It displays automatically if you have it selected.
 On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Mark K
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 I used windows reunion many years ago and it displayed the
 male children in square boxes and female children in rounded
 boxes.
  
 It then coloured the boxes depending on the status of child
 ie twins, adopted etc
  
 Is there any way to display the status of the children in
 the family view?
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

[JLB]

I've been ignoring them.  I didn't know they were addressed to me.
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Kris wrote:


Hi, JLB --

I was surprised to see this response since I've been getting you are 
not permitted to post notices from the mail server.


JLB wrote:
Without understanding what you're doing so far, I will hazard a 
guess. You've probably noticed that on the Assigned Sources screen 
for each individual there are options for Father Rel: and Mother 
Rel:. This is where I put sources that clearly define the 
Parent/Child relationship. If you click on either of those and then 
either the large button that says Cite a Master Source or Add a New 
Source that would be where to put your source.


Yes, this is what I'm talking about.

Why your reports are 'messy' I can also only guess. Is this related 
to report problems for which we're awaiting the program update still?


Even though I quit following all the report problem threads a long 
time ago, I don't think it has anything to do with the coming update. 
I do, however, have a private person appearing in reports -- is 
this one of the known problems?  I've only just geared up again 
after taking a break for a few months, so I'm waiting for the update, 
too, before I ask about any glitches.


What I'm talking about is an entry like this, from the Ancestor Book 
report:


The child from this marriage was:

   i.  John Doe (Relationship to Father: Biological,(3) 
Relationship to Mother: Biological (3) ) was born on 1 January 1902.(3)


I'd like the fact that the relationship *is* sourced to appear some 
way -- but I don't like *this* way.  If it's just for my own 
information, it works fine in family group records and the like.  But 
if I send an Ancestor Book or Descendant Book to someone else, this 
looks like a clunky way to show that I have proof of the parent/child 
relationship.  I just wanted to know if there was another way to do it 
that would appear more elegantly in narrative reports.


I don't know why you'd find birth certificate a 'bad idea' for a 
source. I use it all the time myself. Also Death certificates.


Of course I don't think using a birth certificate is a bad idea.  That 
was a poorly worded sentence.  That's why I hate posting stuff -- I 
never seem to express myself very well.  It's applying the source to 
the parent's Given or Surname field that's a bad idea.  Sorry 
about that!


The Childrens' Settings source button will take you to Child Status. 
Unless this is other than 'natural' I don't bother with it.


Me either.

OK, having said all that, I can see that I still don't understand 
your problem.


Well, thanks for trying!  Otherwise I wouldn't have known my message 
even made it to the list -- I don't get my own messages using GMail. 
Don't know why the mail server is sending me all these messages, but 
then tells me I need to subscribe to post.  ;-)


Does the additional information help at all?

Kris


Kris wrote:


What's the best way to source a relationship? Do you go to 
Children's Settings? When I set the reports to show the Child Status 
or Child-Parent Relationships, the report is so -- messy?


I was, for example, citing the birth certificate for the parent's 
name. Don't know how long it took me to figure out *that* was a bad 
idea. That doesn't really work, and it's pretty ambiguous.


Of course, a birth certificate is usually pretty cut and dried, but 
if I'm thinking I've established a parent/child relationship by 
other means, what's the best way to source it?


Am I missing something obvious here?

TIA

Kris



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Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

[JLB]

Sorry, I missed all your responses the first time.  What I'm seeing now 
is that you don't like the wording in reports.  There's an option to 
turn it off under the Include tab.  Always check the defaults under each 
tab before you print a report so you get to know your way around and 
more quickly in the future set it up the way you want.  None of the 
defaults suit me so I always change some things.

-
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Kris wrote:


Hi, JLB --

I was surprised to see this response since I've been getting you are 
not permitted to post notices from the mail server.


JLB wrote:
Without understanding what you're doing so far, I will hazard a 
guess. You've probably noticed that on the Assigned Sources screen 
for each individual there are options for Father Rel: and Mother 
Rel:. This is where I put sources that clearly define the 
Parent/Child relationship. If you click on either of those and then 
either the large button that says Cite a Master Source or Add a New 
Source that would be where to put your source.


Yes, this is what I'm talking about.

Why your reports are 'messy' I can also only guess. Is this related 
to report problems for which we're awaiting the program update still?


Even though I quit following all the report problem threads a long 
time ago, I don't think it has anything to do with the coming update. 
I do, however, have a private person appearing in reports -- is 
this one of the known problems?  I've only just geared up again 
after taking a break for a few months, so I'm waiting for the update, 
too, before I ask about any glitches.


What I'm talking about is an entry like this, from the Ancestor Book 
report:


The child from this marriage was:

   i.  John Doe (Relationship to Father: Biological,(3) 
Relationship to Mother: Biological (3) ) was born on 1 January 1902.(3)


I'd like the fact that the relationship *is* sourced to appear some 
way -- but I don't like *this* way.  If it's just for my own 
information, it works fine in family group records and the like.  But 
if I send an Ancestor Book or Descendant Book to someone else, this 
looks like a clunky way to show that I have proof of the parent/child 
relationship.  I just wanted to know if there was another way to do it 
that would appear more elegantly in narrative reports.


I don't know why you'd find birth certificate a 'bad idea' for a 
source. I use it all the time myself. Also Death certificates.


Of course I don't think using a birth certificate is a bad idea.  That 
was a poorly worded sentence.  That's why I hate posting stuff -- I 
never seem to express myself very well.  It's applying the source to 
the parent's Given or Surname field that's a bad idea.  Sorry 
about that!


The Childrens' Settings source button will take you to Child Status. 
Unless this is other than 'natural' I don't bother with it.


Me either.

OK, having said all that, I can see that I still don't understand 
your problem.


Well, thanks for trying!  Otherwise I wouldn't have known my message 
even made it to the list -- I don't get my own messages using GMail. 
Don't know why the mail server is sending me all these messages, but 
then tells me I need to subscribe to post.  ;-)


Does the additional information help at all?

Kris


Kris wrote:


What's the best way to source a relationship? Do you go to 
Children's Settings? When I set the reports to show the Child Status 
or Child-Parent Relationships, the report is so -- messy?


I was, for example, citing the birth certificate for the parent's 
name. Don't know how long it took me to figure out *that* was a bad 
idea. That doesn't really work, and it's pretty ambiguous.


Of course, a birth certificate is usually pretty cut and dried, but 
if I'm thinking I've established a parent/child relationship by 
other means, what's the best way to source it?


Am I missing something obvious here?

TIA

Kris



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Re: [LegacyUG] Repeats

[JLB]

I'm also getting duplicates and 'you're not allowed to post' messages. 
Something screwball with the server so out of our control. Ignore and 
carry on as usual.

-
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Donna Felina Roach wrote:


I seem to have a computer that is open to suggestions. Now I also am 
receiving duplicate messages. Mine are word for word duplicates.


Donna
North Carolina
- Original Message - From: Geoff Semmens
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Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 4:01 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Repeats


I seem to be receiving two sets of messages, not as duplicates but 
sent at different times. Is there a glitch in the server? I know the 
topic was about twins and siblings but I did not think the server was 
responding. May be it wanted to emphasis the superiority of Legacy 
over *** (name hidden to save the server embarrassment!)


Geoff TWO (The Welsh One)




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Re: [LegacyUG] Childrens settings - step, adopted, twin etc

[S. Fry]

Mark,

Child status only shows up on the PARENTS of that child's family view, not 
the child's family view.


On the PARENTS family view, with the children listed below the parent's 
details, the status of the child will appear in ( ) after the child's name.

See Help  Child  Status.

If you want a child's status to show up on their own Family View, you could 
put that infomation in by customizing one of the five fields that show on 
the family view -- born, died, buried, etc. You could create a field 
Status.

See Help  Family View  Fields.

Hope this helps, if not, ask again :)

S.Fry




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From: Mark K

To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 6:41 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Childrens settings - step, adopted, twin etc


Well I have looked in the help and to options-cusotomise and have missed it.

Can someone please tell me where I select this option







Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:43:45 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Childrens settings - step, adopted, twin etc


It displays automatically if you have it selected.


On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Mark K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I used windows reunion many years ago and it displayed the male children in 
square boxes and female children in rounded boxes.


It then coloured the boxes depending on the status of child ie twins, 
adopted etc


Is there any way to display the status of the children in the family view?





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[LegacyUG] Update from 7.0.0.45 to 7.0.0.55

[Lhite31]

Can someone please tell me how to download the update without downloading  
the complete program?
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RE: [LegacyUG] [LegacyUserGroup] List Posting Error Notification

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

In my opinion, you just did. what you might want to do, is go to the link 
below, and acquire either the standard (free) or deluxe versions (pay). Then 
you will be known to the Legacy program database computer list of users. I 
don't think it is required, but there was a weird message that went out 
yesterday, which I ignored because it seemed like a spam from those 'cheap 
watches' people. See the archives for more details. I won't honor them with 
more words.
Rich in LA CA


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Re: [LegacyUG] Funeral service papers and how to Cite

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I would use the funeral home settings, but put in parentheses = (typist 
unknown). With my old scanner, for similar I did two shots, one of the top, the 
other the bottom. Then with a 'paint' program, I combined them together. Or 
take it to a printing store, have them e-mail you the copy.
Rich in LA CA

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 Subject: [LegacyUG] Funeral service papers and how to Cite
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 11:57 AM
 I have found in some of my late grandmothers photos, etc., a
 transcription
 of a funeral service for her uncle, who was very prominent
 in the church and
 community. The subject died in 1944 and the papers I'm
 sure are not original
 as she had a couple of sets and do not seem to be carbon
 copies. However,
 these copies are now about 50 years old. It's several
 pages long on legal
 size paper and has been typewritten, probably by someone in
 the church, but
 nothing notated as who typed it, etc. I have re-typed it
 just as it has been
 typed, into a word document as to preserve the event, since
 I cannot scan
 these papers due to the size (it's limitations with my
 scanner). I have
 created a PDF file of the word document and attached it to
 the event. In EE,
 it explains how to do funeral extracts by the funeral home,
 but I don't know
 if the funeral home did this or the church, or if this is
 an extract. So my
 question is, how would I cite this document? Using v7.
 
 Thanks in advance!!
 
 Sheri 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Updating from 7.0.0.45 to 7.0.0.55

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I saw the other responses, but when I had dial up, I found that it went 
smoother if I did the downloads on weekends, during USA night time. Until the 
message bars says connection lost or similar, it is probably still working. 2 
other choices, have Legacy sell you the update on disk, or find a friend who 
can download it to disk for you. You may live near a class group.
Rich in LA CA

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 Hello List.
 I went to Legacy Home this morning to check for up updates,
 but when I  
 clicked on update it went to 7% and stopped responding. I
 tried again with the  
 same results. I then went to Legacy Home page to down load
 it. I clicked on  
 download updates, but it wound up downloading the whole
 Legacy program. Is that  
 the only way to download an update, by downloading the
 complete program? If so  
 then I will not be getting any updates as I am on dialup
 and it takes forever 
 to  download a file that big.
  
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Re: [LegacyUG] Funeral service papers and how to Cite

[Linda McCauley]

Try Artifacts, privately held.

(Also you could still scan the original document - just scan each
legal page in 2 pieces.)

Linda


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 of a funeral service for her uncle, who was very prominent in the church and
 community. The subject died in 1944 and the papers I'm sure are not original
 as she had a couple of sets and do not seem to be carbon copies. However,
 these copies are now about 50 years old. It's several pages long on legal
 size paper and has been typewritten, probably by someone in the church, but
 nothing notated as who typed it, etc. I have re-typed it just as it has been
 typed, into a word document as to preserve the event, since I cannot scan
 these papers due to the size (it's limitations with my scanner). I have
 created a PDF file of the word document and attached it to the event. In EE,
 it explains how to do funeral extracts by the funeral home, but I don't know
 if the funeral home did this or the church, or if this is an extract. So my
 question is, how would I cite this document? Using v7.

 Thanks in advance!!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Repeats

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I have been recieving duplicates. It is not your computer, but somewhere else.
Rich in LA CA


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 Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 12:01 PM
 I seem to have a computer that is open to suggestions. Now I
 also am 
 receiving duplicate messages.  Mine are word for word
 duplicates.
 
 Donna
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 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 4:01 AM
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Repeats
 
 
 I seem to be receiving two sets of messages, not as
 duplicates but sent at 
 different times. Is there a glitch in the server? I know
 the topic was about 
 twins and siblings but I did not think the server was
 responding. May be it 
 wanted to emphasis the superiority of Legacy over *** (name
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 the server embarrassment!)
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Update from 7.0.0.45 to 7.0.0.55

[Joyce Herzog]

In Legacy, go to the Legacy Home page. On the right the first item is
Statistics, the second is Updates. Go to Updates. Click on Updates. It will
go out to Legacy's web page (if you're connected to the internet)  get the
update for you.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Update from 7.0.0.45 to 7.0.0.55

[ronald ferguson]

There are many ways, if you have Legacy Delus then under the Legacy Home Tab on 
the right hand side you will see a Box, click check for Updates. Otherwise go 
to Legacy Home (on line) and you will find the updates under the Download tab.


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Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:36:03 -0400
Subject: [LegacyUG] Update from 7.0.0.45 to 7.0.0.55
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Can someone please tell me how to download the update without downloading the 
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Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

[Kris]

Hi, JLB

I know about the defaults.  I don't remember at this point, but I 
think you have to actually check those child-parent relationship and 
child status boxes for those fields to print in those reports in the 
first place.  I don't think they're on by default.


My point is, if I have the child-parent relationship setting off, 
then there's nothing in the report that shows how I made the 
connection between that child and those parents.  Thus my original 
question.


Kris


JLB wrote:
Sorry, I missed all your responses the first time.  What I'm seeing now 
is that you don't like the wording in reports.  There's an option to 
turn it off under the Include tab.  Always check the defaults under each 
tab before you print a report so you get to know your way around and 
more quickly in the future set it up the way you want.  None of the 
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[LegacyUG] Addresses WHERE to add current

[Momalot66]

Found the Report stuff, but not sure where to go  from there.  Want to add 
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[LegacyUG] ADDRESS found it

[Momalot66]

I found it on the Family Page icons and even  learned how to do the Latitude 
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RE: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

[ronald ferguson]

Kris,

You write:
My point is, if I have the child-parent relationship setting off,
 then there's nothing in the report that shows how I made the
 connection between that child and those parents. Thus my original
 question.

I feel that this statement is too strong and rather depends on how one arranges 
the reports. For example they can be shown to be linked to their parents in the 
Sources by a birth certificate or by a census, admittedly the latter cannot 
always (arguably never) be used as proof of the parentage.

I do not usually publish details of the child status as such, but it can often 
be inferred from date of birth.

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 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:21:14 -0500
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

 Hi, JLB

 I know about the defaults. I don't remember at this point, but I
 think you have to actually check those child-parent relationship and
 child status boxes for those fields to print in those reports in the
 first place. I don't think they're on by default.

 My point is, if I have the child-parent relationship setting off,
 then there's nothing in the report that shows how I made the
 connection between that child and those parents. Thus my original
 question.

 Kris


 JLB wrote:
 Sorry, I missed all your responses the first time. What I'm seeing now
 is that you don't like the wording in reports. There's an option to
 turn it off under the Include tab. Always check the defaults under each
 tab before you print a report so you get to know your way around and
 more quickly in the future set it up the way you want. None of the
 defaults suit me so I always change some things.
 -
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RE: [LegacyUG] Separating a family for webpages

[ronald ferguson]

Yes Syble,

In InternetWeb CreationFormatting you did not check the Names and Surname 
boxes.


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Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:04:55 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [LegacyUG] Separating a family for webpages
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com






I tagged a family line #2 inside my database, created the webpages choosing all 
with tag #2, when I viewed them in my browser, there are no Surnames list and 
the Name List is blank.  There were 1297 individuals, so there should be 
several different Surnames.  Does anyone have a suggestion?



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[LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources

[M. Brenzel]

I have TIF images of newspaper articles attached to events.  They have been
acquired from the microfilms of newspapers by using the reader attached to a
computer for scanning right to the computer.  I then save the image to my
flash drive to bring home.  

Many of these articles are captured on a full page of the newspaper.  Using
Microsoft Office Picture Manager, I am able to crop the section of the page
that I really need.  If I attach the original image to the event detail,
everything's ok but if I attach the cropped version (also saved as a TIF),
it doesn’t appear.

Does anyone know of any quirky file behavior resulting from using this
software to crop the image?

Mary
 






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Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

[JLB]

You're making me very confused.  You don't want the child-parent 
relationship details showing because they're 'messy' but now you want 
the details showing.  What exactly do you want?  Not that you can 
necessarily have it but humour us and tell us anyway.

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Kris wrote:


Hi, JLB

I know about the defaults.  I don't remember at this point, but I 
think you have to actually check those child-parent relationship and 
child status boxes for those fields to print in those reports in the 
first place.  I don't think they're on by default.


My point is, if I have the child-parent relationship setting off, 
then there's nothing in the report that shows how I made the 
connection between that child and those parents.  Thus my original 
question.


Kris


JLB wrote:
Sorry, I missed all your responses the first time.  What I'm seeing 
now is that you don't like the wording in reports.  There's an option 
to turn it off under the Include tab.  Always check the defaults 
under each tab before you print a report so you get to know your way 
around and more quickly in the future set it up the way you want.  
None of the defaults suit me so I always change some things.

-
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Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:42:25 +0100, ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

admittedly the latter cannot always (arguably never) be used as proof of the 
parentage

About the only thing that can is a DNA test. ;-)
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources

[Terri Brown]

Microsoft Office Picture Manager is probably saving the TIF images using LZW 
compression without your knowledge. I know that Microsoft Picture It is guilty 
of that behavior. Re-save your TIF images using another photo editing program. 
Use the other program's FileSave As command to save as an uncompressed TIF and 
you should not have any more problems.

I had the same problem with Microsoft Picture It. It took me quite a while to 
figure it out. I finally figured out the problem by looking at the image's 
Properties in Microsoft Office Document Imaging.

Terri



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From: M. Brenzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 7:27:58 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources

I have TIF images of newspaper articles attached to events.  They have been
acquired from the microfilms of newspapers by using the reader attached to a
computer for scanning right to the computer.  I then save the image to my
flash drive to bring home.  

Many of these articles are captured on a full page of the newspaper.  Using
Microsoft Office Picture Manager, I am able to crop the section of the page
that I really need.  If I attach the original image to the event detail,
everything's ok but if I attach the cropped version (also saved as a TIF),
it doesn’t appear.

Does anyone know of any quirky file behavior resulting from using this
software to crop the image?

Mary
 






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Re: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources

[JLB]

It's not your software exactly (well, yeah, it is) it's the tiff's 
themselves. Legacy does not recognize tiff's that have been compressed 
which your software may be doing to your pictures unbeknownst to you.


Open one of them in a photo editor, pretend as if you're going to resave 
it and have a look when the Compression Options box appears. It should 
say None. If it says something else, like LZW, you'll need to resave it 
with None. In the meantime, have a look at your MS software and see if 
you can set compression options for tiff's to None.

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M. Brenzel wrote:

I have TIF images of newspaper articles attached to events.  They have been
acquired from the microfilms of newspapers by using the reader attached to a
computer for scanning right to the computer.  I then save the image to my
flash drive to bring home.  


Many of these articles are captured on a full page of the newspaper.  Using
Microsoft Office Picture Manager, I am able to crop the section of the page
that I really need.  If I attach the original image to the event detail,
everything's ok but if I attach the cropped version (also saved as a TIF),
it doesn’t appear.

Does anyone know of any quirky file behavior resulting from using this
software to crop the image?

Mary
 







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Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

[Elizabeth Richardson]

Yep. I can't even prove I'm the person named on my birth certificate. It 
says my mother gave birth that day, and I have been raised as that child, 
but without DNA, I couldn't prove it. Maybe there was a switch. ;)


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?


On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:42:25 +0100, ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

admittedly the latter cannot always (arguably never) be used as proof of 
the parentage


About the only thing that can is a DNA test. ;-)

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RE: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources

[M. Brenzel]

Thank you to both JL and Terri.  I will see if I can find another image 
software.  Picture Manager doesn't give compression options when saving an 
image.

Mary
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terri Brown
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 7:37 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources

Microsoft Office Picture Manager is probably saving the TIF images using LZW 
compression without your knowledge. I know that Microsoft Picture It is guilty 
of that behavior. Re-save your TIF images using another photo editing program. 
Use the other program's FileSave As command to save as an uncompressed TIF and 
you should not have any more problems.

I had the same problem with Microsoft Picture It. It took me quite a while to 
figure it out. I finally figured out the problem by looking at the image's 
Properties in Microsoft Office�Document Imaging.

Terri



- Original Message 
From: M. Brenzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 7:27:58 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources

I have TIF images of newspaper articles attached to events.� They have been
acquired from the microfilms of newspapers by using the reader attached to a
computer for scanning right to the computer.� I then save the image to my
flash drive to bring home.� 

Many of these articles are captured on a full page of the newspaper.� Using
Microsoft Office Picture Manager, I am able to crop the section of the page
that I really need.� If I attach the original image to the event detail,
everything's ok but if I attach the cropped version (also saved as a TIF),
it doesn�t appear.

Does anyone know of any quirky file behavior resulting from using this
software to crop the image?

Mary
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RE: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

[ronald ferguson]

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 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?
 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:32:24 -0400

 On Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:42:25 +0100, ronald ferguson 
 wrote:

admittedly the latter cannot always (arguably never) be used as proof of the 
parentage

 About the only thing that can is a DNA test. ;-)

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And after a few generations back not even that, since there's unlikely to be 
any original DNA !

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Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

[Kris]

Hi, Ron --

Well, obviously I've just made a total mess of this, since no one 
seems to understand what I'm talking about, so I'll try it this way --


What FIELD do I attach the source citation to?  I know children are 
linked through birth certificates, etc., but what FIELD do I use for 
this in the *mother* or *father's* individual information screen? 
Yes, I source the child's birth date, etc., with the birth certificate 
in the *child's* information screen -- but what about the parents' 
information screens?


I agree that if I have a birth certificate source, anyone reading the 
report can probably assume that the child is linked to the parents 
through that source.  But what if this is *before* birth certificates? 
 And I'm using a combination of other information and sources to 
determine that Baby Doe is the child of John Doe and Jane Doe?


If I have a will, some deeds, some newspaper articles and some census 
information that all points to this being the child of these parents, 
what FIELD in the parent's information screen do I use to show that 
this source, or these sources, link these individuals that will also 
show up on an ancestor or descendant report -- other than the father 
or mother relationships in the Children's settings?


Or is it just the fact that the child shows up in the report as the 
child of this marriage, and then when someone asks me how I determined 
that, I then tell them how I did it?  And hope that they ask me before 
I'm dead myself?


Kris


ronald ferguson wrote:

Kris,

You write: My point is, if I have the child-parent relationship
setting off,
then there's nothing in the report that shows how I made the 
connection between that child and those parents. Thus my original

 question.


I feel that this statement is too strong and rather depends on how
one arranges the reports. For example they can be shown to be
linked to their parents in the Sources by a birth certificate or by
a census, admittedly the latter cannot always (arguably never) be
used as proof of the parentage.

I do not usually publish details of the child status as such, but
it can often be inferred from date of birth.

Ron Ferguson



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Re: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources

[JLB]

As usual, yay Microsoft.  Just about anything will give you compression 
options so you shouldn't have to look too far.  FastStone is free but it 
will delete any IPTC info you may have.  Sorry, I'm not running much 
free graphics software these days.  There's another good free one called 
PhotoFiltre but I don't have it presently so I can't say for sure what 
it does with tiff's.

-
JL
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http://www.jgen.ws/jlog

M. Brenzel wrote:

Thank you to both JL and Terri.  I will see if I can find another image 
software.  Picture Manager doesn't give compression options when saving an 
image.

Mary
 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terri Brown
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 7:37 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources

Microsoft Office Picture Manager is probably saving the TIF images using LZW 
compression without your knowledge. I know that Microsoft Picture It is guilty of 
that behavior. Re-save your TIF images using another photo editing program. Use 
the other program's FileSave As command to save as an uncompressed TIF and you 
should not have any more problems.

I had the same problem with Microsoft Picture It. It took me quite a while to 
figure it out. I finally figured out the problem by looking at the image's 
Properties in Microsoft Office�Document Imaging.

Terri



- Original Message 
From: M. Brenzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 7:27:58 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources

I have TIF images of newspaper articles attached to events.� They have been
acquired from the microfilms of newspapers by using the reader attached to a
computer for scanning right to the computer.� I then save the image to my
flash drive to bring home.� 


Many of these articles are captured on a full page of the newspaper.� Using
Microsoft Office Picture Manager, I am able to crop the section of the page
that I really need.� If I attach the original image to the event detail,
everything's ok but if I attach the cropped version (also saved as a TIF),
it doesn�t appear.

Does anyone know of any quirky file behavior resulting from using this
software to crop the image?

Mary
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Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

[JLB]

I think I get this but maybe I don't. It's been a real long week.

You attach the source citation to the item that you're sourcing. What 
information is a birth certificate giving you? Well, mostly notably, the 
names of the three participants.


A child's birth certificate is a source for the names of the parents. I 
also attach the image of the birth certificate, which says these parents 
gave birth to this child and I think that's enough to say what it means.


(Or I could also use the birth certificate to source the Father Rel and 
Mother Rel for the child.)


Go to a parent's Assigned Sources window and use Birth Certificate or 
whatever you call it, as a source for their name. Under Source Detail 
Comments, put Child's name: son/daughter whichever the case may be. Then 
repeat for the other parent.


If you're proving your points through other types of sources, then use 
other types of sources.

-
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Kris wrote:


Hi, Ron --

Well, obviously I've just made a total mess of this, since no one 
seems to understand what I'm talking about, so I'll try it this way --


What FIELD do I attach the source citation to? I know children are 
linked through birth certificates, etc., but what FIELD do I use for 
this in the *mother* or *father's* individual information screen? Yes, 
I source the child's birth date, etc., with the birth certificate in 
the *child's* information screen -- but what about the parents' 
information screens?


I agree that if I have a birth certificate source, anyone reading the 
report can probably assume that the child is linked to the parents 
through that source. But what if this is *before* birth certificates? 
And I'm using a combination of other information and sources to 
determine that Baby Doe is the child of John Doe and Jane Doe?


If I have a will, some deeds, some newspaper articles and some census 
information that all points to this being the child of these parents, 
what FIELD in the parent's information screen do I use to show that 
this source, or these sources, link these individuals that will also 
show up on an ancestor or descendant report -- other than the father 
or mother relationships in the Children's settings?


Or is it just the fact that the child shows up in the report as the 
child of this marriage, and then when someone asks me how I determined 
that, I then tell them how I did it? And hope that they ask me before 
I'm dead myself?


Kris


ronald ferguson wrote:

Kris,

You write: My point is, if I have the child-parent relationship
setting off,
then there's nothing in the report that shows how I made the 
connection between that child and those parents. Thus my original

question.


I feel that this statement is too strong and rather depends on how
one arranges the reports. For example they can be shown to be
linked to their parents in the Sources by a birth certificate or by
a census, admittedly the latter cannot always (arguably never) be
used as proof of the parentage.

I do not usually publish details of the child status as such, but
it can often be inferred from date of birth.

Ron Ferguson



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Re: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources

[Elizabeth Richardson]

FYI, my Microsoft Picture Manager program has a Compress Photos option, 
where it has an option to not compress. I'm not sure what yay Microsoft 
means, but I assume it was derogatory, which is unnecessary.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources


As usual, yay Microsoft.  Just about anything will give you compression
options so you shouldn't have to look too far.  FastStone is free but it
will delete any IPTC info you may have.  Sorry, I'm not running much
free graphics software these days.  There's another good free one called
PhotoFiltre but I don't have it presently so I can't say for sure what
it does with tiff's.
-
JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog

M. Brenzel wrote:
Thank you to both JL and Terri.  I will see if I can find another image 
software.  Picture Manager doesn't give compression options when saving an 
image.


Mary

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terri 
Brown

Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 7:37 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources

Microsoft Office Picture Manager is probably saving the TIF images using 
LZW compression without your knowledge. I know that Microsoft Picture It 
is guilty of that behavior. Re-save your TIF images using another photo 
editing program. Use the other program's FileSave As command to save as 
an uncompressed TIF and you should not have any more problems.


I had the same problem with Microsoft Picture It. It took me quite a while 
to figure it out. I finally figured out the problem by looking at the 
image's Properties in Microsoft Office�Document Imaging.


Terri



- Original Message 
From: M. Brenzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 7:27:58 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources

I have TIF images of newspaper articles attached to events.� They have 
been
acquired from the microfilms of newspapers by using the reader attached to 
a

computer for scanning right to the computer.� I then save the image to my
flash drive to bring home.�
Many of these articles are captured on a full page of the newspaper.� 
Using
Microsoft Office Picture Manager, I am able to crop the section of the 
page

that I really need.� If I attach the original image to the event detail,
everything's ok but if I attach the cropped version (also saved as a TIF),
it doesn�t appear.

Does anyone know of any quirky file behavior resulting from using this
software to crop the image?

Mary
�







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Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

[SHIRLEY ANDERSON]

I think that I would write out in the child's birth notes the facts that 
together l used to determine the child's parents.  That way it will be readily 
available to you and can easily be included in reports.  Imagine yourself 5 
years from now trying to reconstruct the combination that led to your decision.

I don't see any need to repeat it in the parents' records. You don't record the 
child's birth information in the parents' record. Imagine a parent with 12 
children. To me it would be extremely difficult to read all the justifications 
at once. Also, there is a risk of pronouns being misunderstood when you are 
talking about more than one child.

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~~
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- Original Message 
From: Kris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 7:43:42 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

Hi, Ron --

Well, obviously I've just made a total mess of this, since no one 
seems to understand what I'm talking about, so I'll try it this way --

What FIELD do I attach the source citation to?  I know children are 
linked through birth certificates, etc., but what FIELD do I use for 
this in the *mother* or *father's* individual information screen? 
Yes, I source the child's birth date, etc., with the birth certificate 
in the *child's* information screen -- but what about the parents' 
information screens?

I agree that if I have a birth certificate source, anyone reading the 
report can probably assume that the child is linked to the parents 
through that source.  But what if this is *before* birth certificates? 
  And I'm using a combination of other information and sources to 
determine that Baby Doe is the child of John Doe and Jane Doe?

If I have a will, some deeds, some newspaper articles and some census 
information that all points to this being the child of these parents, 
what FIELD in the parent's information screen do I use to show that 
this source, or these sources, link these individuals that will also 
show up on an ancestor or descendant report -- other than the father 
or mother relationships in the Children's settings?

Or is it just the fact that the child shows up in the report as the 
child of this marriage, and then when someone asks me how I determined 
that, I then tell them how I did it?  And hope that they ask me before 
I'm dead myself?

Kris


ronald ferguson wrote:
 Kris,
 
 You write: My point is, if I have the child-parent relationship
 setting off,
 then there's nothing in the report that shows how I made the 
 connection between that child and those parents. Thus my original
  question.
 
 I feel that this statement is too strong and rather depends on how
 one arranges the reports. For example they can be shown to be
 linked to their parents in the Sources by a birth certificate or by
 a census, admittedly the latter cannot always (arguably never) be
 used as proof of the parentage.
 
 I do not usually publish details of the child status as such, but
 it can often be inferred from date of birth.
 
 Ron Ferguson


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[LegacyUG] Options settings not sticking?

[Jessica Morgan]

Has anyone experienced this? (Options settings not sticking)

I've been opening Legacy program just about every night this week, and
working on the same project (A Morgan Family).
Every time I open Legacy it asks me what file to open via the pop up
box with all my files in it, I select the one I want (A Morgan Family)
and off I go.
Please note here I've been opening the same file every time, but
having to choose it in the list. It is not automatically opening it.

I thought I had set it to automatically open last file used way back
when, but since I've changed files I'm working in, I didn't mind it
and ignored the issue.

I just went in to find in options where to change an RIN, and while
going through the options screen I find where my options are set as
such:

Options
Customize box
General tab
Starting family file  Always open this file: (Toggled ON)

Options
Customize box
General tab
Program Startup section
Start with Legacy Home View (toggled ON)

Of these two options, NEITHER are actually happening.

I'm selecting what file to open from a selection box.
And when my file opens it's always on the Family tab.

Is this just an issue I have, or does anyone have the same issue?

Thanks,
Jessica Morgan


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Re: [LegacyUG] Advice: How to source two different entries for same person event in FamilySearch Labs

[SHIRLEY ANDERSON]

I have been doing a lot of work in the last few days on the Michigan Marriage 
Records.  If there are two records, you need to look at them closely.  If the 
issuance of the marriage license and the actual marriage occurred in different 
counties, there often is a record in both counties.  I have also found one 
marriage where the licensing and marriage were both in the same county but in 
different years.  There were two records.  Sometimes one of the records may be 
crossed out.  I'm not sure what criteria the clerk used to do that, but it may 
be the record with the more complete information.

Sometimes the county field at the top of the record is blank.  You will need to 
go back to the original listing and check the pages before or after your page.  
I found out the hard way that you can't assume the county of the record from 
the place of the marriage.  And the county of the marriage is sometimes indexed 
incorrectly because there is nothing on the record to indicate a different 
county.

 
When there is more than one record, I am sourcing both of them, and looking 
very carefully for differences in information.

Another detail - the index won't tell you the year of the record, which, along 
with the county, needs to be part of the source description.  I have been 
taking the film number in the index and going to the Family History Library 
catalog to get the year.

Shirley
~~
Shirley York Anderson   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
~~
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- Original Message 
From: Terri Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:19:59 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Advice: How to source two different entries for same 
person  event in FamilySearch Labs


Ann,
 
I would make appropriate notations in the Comments section of the Source Detail 
and attach both images. I would also to note the volume and page number in the 
original record.
 
Apparently the record was filmed twice. I've noticed that in other LDS 
microfilm. Sometimes they filmed pages twice and sometimes they missed pages 
completely.
 
Terri





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To: LegacyUserGroup LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:43:01 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Advice: How to source two different entries for same person 
 event in FamilySearch Labs

 
I have the printout  digital image from FamilySearch Labs. This is a page from 
the Oakland County Michigan Marriage Register. The printout in the same except 
the grooms age, birth year image number and Reference number.
 
The first printout has Groom age 24 years; Groom birth year 1849; Image number 
15; Reference number v. 1 p34 rn 1650.
The second printout has Groom age 25 years; Groom birth year 1848; Image number 
624; reference number v. 2 p34 rn 1650
 
The first image clearly has the groom's age 24. The second image is exactly the 
same as the first one except the right hand sheet overlaps the left hand sheet 
making the age appear to be 25. No where on either image does it give a birth 
year for the groom. Both entries are on lines 10, 11  12. The notations are 
the same at the bottom and top of both images.
 
A family member went to the Oakland County courthouse and looked at the entry. 
The grooms age is 24, however they said it was on page 117 of book i. The 
images do not have a page number written on them, there is a stamped 34.
 
There is no explanation on the FamilySearch Labs printouts as to why there are 
two entries.
 
I thought about having one source with notes explaining the two entries and why 
I think the age 24 printout is correct, also that FamilySearch Labs offers no 
explanation why there are two entries.
 
I would appreciate ideas on how you would source this type of situation.
 
Thank you,
Ann
New Mexico, USA
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

[Jessica Morgan]

After reading your quandry, and some of the responses, there's
definately no right or wrong way.

Personally, if I am deducing information from sources without
actually having a source for the event or information in question, I
would put it as an event (now that I use events) that I've made and
named Deduction, writing out what I deduced and from what and why. I
then source it to any and all documents that back this deduction up,
as well as attach a source that I've named Self Deduction, citing
myself as the source, and my thoughts as the detail.

Clear as mudd?

Jessica Morgan


On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Kris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, Ron --

 Well, obviously I've just made a total mess of this, since no one seems to
 understand what I'm talking about, so I'll try it this way --

 What FIELD do I attach the source citation to?  I know children are linked
 through birth certificates, etc., but what FIELD do I use for this in the
 *mother* or *father's* individual information screen? Yes, I source the
 child's birth date, etc., with the birth certificate in the *child's*
 information screen -- but what about the parents' information screens?

 I agree that if I have a birth certificate source, anyone reading the report
 can probably assume that the child is linked to the parents through that
 source.  But what if this is *before* birth certificates?  And I'm using a
 combination of other information and sources to determine that Baby Doe is
 the child of John Doe and Jane Doe?

 If I have a will, some deeds, some newspaper articles and some census
 information that all points to this being the child of these parents, what
 FIELD in the parent's information screen do I use to show that this source,
 or these sources, link these individuals that will also show up on an
 ancestor or descendant report -- other than the father or mother
 relationships in the Children's settings?

 Or is it just the fact that the child shows up in the report as the child of
 this marriage, and then when someone asks me how I determined that, I then
 tell them how I did it?  And hope that they ask me before I'm dead myself?

 Kris


 ronald ferguson wrote:

 Kris,

 You write: My point is, if I have the child-parent relationship
 setting off,

 then there's nothing in the report that shows how I made the connection
 between that child and those parents. Thus my original
  question.

 I feel that this statement is too strong and rather depends on how
 one arranges the reports. For example they can be shown to be
 linked to their parents in the Sources by a birth certificate or by
 a census, admittedly the latter cannot always (arguably never) be
 used as proof of the parentage.

 I do not usually publish details of the child status as such, but
 it can often be inferred from date of birth.

 Ron Ferguson


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Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

[Kris]

Well, we must both be muddy the same way, 'cause this makes perfect 
sense to me.  Thank you!  :-)


Kris

Jessica Morgan wrote:

After reading your quandry, and some of the responses, there's
definately no right or wrong way.

Personally, if I am deducing information from sources without
actually having a source for the event or information in question, I
would put it as an event (now that I use events) that I've made and
named Deduction, writing out what I deduced and from what and why. I
then source it to any and all documents that back this deduction up,
as well as attach a source that I've named Self Deduction, citing
myself as the source, and my thoughts as the detail.

Clear as mudd?

Jessica Morgan


On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Kris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi, Ron --

Well, obviously I've just made a total mess of this, since no one seems to
understand what I'm talking about, so I'll try it this way --

What FIELD do I attach the source citation to?  I know children are linked
through birth certificates, etc., but what FIELD do I use for this in the
*mother* or *father's* individual information screen? Yes, I source the
child's birth date, etc., with the birth certificate in the *child's*
information screen -- but what about the parents' information screens?

I agree that if I have a birth certificate source, anyone reading the report
can probably assume that the child is linked to the parents through that
source.  But what if this is *before* birth certificates?  And I'm using a
combination of other information and sources to determine that Baby Doe is
the child of John Doe and Jane Doe?

If I have a will, some deeds, some newspaper articles and some census
information that all points to this being the child of these parents, what
FIELD in the parent's information screen do I use to show that this source,
or these sources, link these individuals that will also show up on an
ancestor or descendant report -- other than the father or mother
relationships in the Children's settings?

Or is it just the fact that the child shows up in the report as the child of
this marriage, and then when someone asks me how I determined that, I then
tell them how I did it?  And hope that they ask me before I'm dead myself?

Kris



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RE: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

[Gavin Nicholson]

In addition to what Jessica has written I would add that I assign those
sources against the NAME of the parent. In the book I wrote (pre-legacy) my
opening paragraph was about why I believed that the A and B were the parents
of C. Sometimes it was simply that I obtained their names from a marriage
certificate but others would go into great detail explaining why I believed
it to be true. I was also careful to provide a measure of my confidence
(using terms such as probably or possibly etc) as well as provide any
information that conflicted with my hypothesis and why I discounted that
information.

Cheers,
Gavin...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jessica
Morgan
Sent: Monday, 20 October 2008 11:45 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

After reading your quandry, and some of the responses, there's
definately no right or wrong way.

Personally, if I am deducing information from sources without
actually having a source for the event or information in question, I
would put it as an event (now that I use events) that I've made and
named Deduction, writing out what I deduced and from what and why. I
then source it to any and all documents that back this deduction up,
as well as attach a source that I've named Self Deduction, citing
myself as the source, and my thoughts as the detail.

Clear as mudd?

Jessica Morgan




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Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

[Jessica Morgan]

Glad you understood it!
Also thought that some may wonder why I put a deduction event with
full details along with a deduction source with full details...
sometimes I don't put as much detail into the event as I do the
source, b/c it doesn't read right in reports, etc. Or I format it
differently for reading, and in sources just outline or bullet point
it.

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Kris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, we must both be muddy the same way, 'cause this makes perfect sense
 to me.  Thank you!  :-)

 Kris

 Jessica Morgan wrote:

 After reading your quandry, and some of the responses, there's
 definately no right or wrong way.

 Personally, if I am deducing information from sources without
 actually having a source for the event or information in question, I
 would put it as an event (now that I use events) that I've made and
 named Deduction, writing out what I deduced and from what and why. I
 then source it to any and all documents that back this deduction up,
 as well as attach a source that I've named Self Deduction, citing
 myself as the source, and my thoughts as the detail.

 Clear as mudd?

 Jessica Morgan


 On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Kris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, Ron --

 Well, obviously I've just made a total mess of this, since no one seems
 to
 understand what I'm talking about, so I'll try it this way --

 What FIELD do I attach the source citation to?  I know children are
 linked
 through birth certificates, etc., but what FIELD do I use for this in the
 *mother* or *father's* individual information screen? Yes, I source the
 child's birth date, etc., with the birth certificate in the *child's*
 information screen -- but what about the parents' information screens?

 I agree that if I have a birth certificate source, anyone reading the
 report
 can probably assume that the child is linked to the parents through that
 source.  But what if this is *before* birth certificates?  And I'm using
 a
 combination of other information and sources to determine that Baby Doe
 is
 the child of John Doe and Jane Doe?

 If I have a will, some deeds, some newspaper articles and some census
 information that all points to this being the child of these parents,
 what
 FIELD in the parent's information screen do I use to show that this
 source,
 or these sources, link these individuals that will also show up on an
 ancestor or descendant report -- other than the father or mother
 relationships in the Children's settings?

 Or is it just the fact that the child shows up in the report as the child
 of
 this marriage, and then when someone asks me how I determined that, I
 then
 tell them how I did it?  And hope that they ask me before I'm dead
 myself?

 Kris


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Re: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources

[JLB]

It's the emotional police again.  My god, I've never seen a mailing list 
so friggin' neurotic that way. Derogatory' is a mild sentiment where MS 
is concerned.  Consider your ears fortunate.

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Elizabeth Richardson wrote:


FYI, my Microsoft Picture Manager program has a Compress Photos 
option, where it has an option to not compress. I'm not sure what yay 
Microsoft means, but I assume it was derogatory, which is unnecessary.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - From: JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources


As usual, yay Microsoft.  Just about anything will give you compression
options so you shouldn't have to look too far.  FastStone is free but it
will delete any IPTC info you may have.  Sorry, I'm not running much
free graphics software these days.  There's another good free one called
PhotoFiltre but I don't have it presently so I can't say for sure what
it does with tiff's.
-
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M. Brenzel wrote:
Thank you to both JL and Terri.  I will see if I can find another 
image software.  Picture Manager doesn't give compression options 
when saving an image.


Mary

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
Terri Brown

Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 7:37 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources

Microsoft Office Picture Manager is probably saving the TIF images 
using LZW compression without your knowledge. I know that Microsoft 
Picture It is guilty of that behavior. Re-save your TIF images using 
another photo editing program. Use the other program's FileSave As 
command to save as an uncompressed TIF and you should not have any 
more problems.


I had the same problem with Microsoft Picture It. It took me quite a 
while to figure it out. I finally figured out the problem by looking 
at the image's Properties in Microsoft Office�Document Imaging.


Terri



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From: M. Brenzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 7:27:58 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources

I have TIF images of newspaper articles attached to events.� They 
have been
acquired from the microfilms of newspapers by using the reader 
attached to a
computer for scanning right to the computer.� I then save the image 
to my

flash drive to bring home.�
Many of these articles are captured on a full page of the newspaper.� 
Using
Microsoft Office Picture Manager, I am able to crop the section of 
the page

that I really need.� If I attach the original image to the event detail,
everything's ok but if I attach the cropped version (also saved as a 
TIF),

it doesn�t appear.

Does anyone know of any quirky file behavior resulting from using this
software to crop the image?

Mary
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Re: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources

[Elizabeth Richardson]

Your language is quite offensive. The adjective you used to describe 
neurotic is a word that is a substitute for one of the most offensive words 
in the English language. Again, unnecessary.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources


It's the emotional police again.  My god, I've never seen a mailing list
so friggin' neurotic that way. Derogatory' is a mild sentiment where MS
is concerned.  Consider your ears fortunate.
-
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RE: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

[Kirsten Bowman]

Kris:

I've gotten a little dizzy with the back-and-forth responses to your first
post, so please excuse if I'm just adding to the confusion, but I think
perhaps the problem may be this:  Normally it's expected that you would be
researching backward and so your source(s) would be proving a child's
relationship to his/her parents rather than the parents' relationship to
their children.  I believe that's why there are fields for the father and
mother relationship for individuals but I don't think there is an
appropriate field for attaching a source to prove children.  That being the
case, you'd have to make up your own method for handling the situation.

If that's the core problem, then I'm probably saying, like Jessica, there
isn't an answer--only the way *you* decide to handle it.

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 7:12 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?


Well, we must both be muddy the same way, 'cause this makes perfect
sense to me.  Thank you!  :-)

Kris

Jessica Morgan wrote:
 After reading your quandry, and some of the responses, there's
 definately no right or wrong way.

 Personally, if I am deducing information from sources without
 actually having a source for the event or information in question, I
 would put it as an event (now that I use events) that I've made and
 named Deduction, writing out what I deduced and from what and why. I
 then source it to any and all documents that back this deduction up,
 as well as attach a source that I've named Self Deduction, citing
 myself as the source, and my thoughts as the detail.

 Clear as mudd?

 Jessica Morgan


 On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Kris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, Ron --

 Well, obviously I've just made a total mess of this, since no one seems
to
 understand what I'm talking about, so I'll try it this way --

 What FIELD do I attach the source citation to?  I know children are
linked
 through birth certificates, etc., but what FIELD do I use for this in the
 *mother* or *father's* individual information screen? Yes, I source the
 child's birth date, etc., with the birth certificate in the *child's*
 information screen -- but what about the parents' information screens?

 I agree that if I have a birth certificate source, anyone reading the
report
 can probably assume that the child is linked to the parents through that
 source.  But what if this is *before* birth certificates?  And I'm using
a
 combination of other information and sources to determine that Baby Doe
is
 the child of John Doe and Jane Doe?

 If I have a will, some deeds, some newspaper articles and some census
 information that all points to this being the child of these parents,
what
 FIELD in the parent's information screen do I use to show that this
source,
 or these sources, link these individuals that will also show up on an
 ancestor or descendant report -- other than the father or mother
 relationships in the Children's settings?

 Or is it just the fact that the child shows up in the report as the child
of
 this marriage, and then when someone asks me how I determined that, I
then
 tell them how I did it?  And hope that they ask me before I'm dead
myself?

 Kris




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Re: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources

[Art Seddon]

He don't know any better I guess

Art Seddon
  - Original Message - 
  From: Elizabeth Richardson 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 7:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources


  Your language is quite offensive. The adjective you used to describe 
  neurotic is a word that is a substitute for one of the most offensive words 
  in the English language. Again, unnecessary.

  Elizabeth
  researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

  - Original Message - 
  From: JLB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 6:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources


  It's the emotional police again.  My god, I've never seen a mailing list
  so friggin' neurotic that way. Derogatory' is a mild sentiment where MS
  is concerned.  Consider your ears fortunate.
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Re: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources

[Wynthner]

One can not derogatorize Microsoft since, than it, there is nothing lower than!
;)



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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:04:53 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] TIF images attached to sources

FYI, my Microsoft Picture Manager program has a Compress Photos option, 
where it has an option to not compress. I'm not sure what yay Microsoft 
means, but I assume it was derogatory, which is unnecessary.

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Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

[John S. Adams]

Kris,
I just tried sourcing the relationship of an individual to his father.  Here 
is how I went about it.


1.  Select the father on the Family View screen.
2.  Right click on the Children's list.
3.  Select Children's Settings.
4.  Select the child you wish to source.
5.  In the Relationship to Father field, select the relationship 
(Biological, Adopted, etc) OR leave it blank.

6.  Click on the Source icon on the left of the screen.
7.  You will be taken to the Assigned Sources for:  Charles L. ADAMS 
screen.

8.  Make sure the Show all Events box on the left side is checked.
9.  Highlight the Father Rel: field.  You may have to scroll down to find 
this field.

10.  Click on Cite a Master Source button and enter your source.

When you choose a Report, make sure you have checked the Child-parent 
relationships box on the Include tab and the Print source citations on 
the Sources tab.


I looked at the Individual Report, Family Group Record, and the father's 
Descendant Book Report.  The child-parent relationship and correct source 
were displayed.  I haven't looked at other reports.


Hope this helps.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA
Just another day in paradise.
--
From: Kris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 7:11 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

Well, we must both be muddy the same way, 'cause this makes perfect 
sense to me.  Thank you!  :-)


Kris

Jessica Morgan wrote:

After reading your quandry, and some of the responses, there's
definately no right or wrong way.

Personally, if I am deducing information from sources without
actually having a source for the event or information in question, I
would put it as an event (now that I use events) that I've made and
named Deduction, writing out what I deduced and from what and why. I
then source it to any and all documents that back this deduction up,
as well as attach a source that I've named Self Deduction, citing
myself as the source, and my thoughts as the detail.

Clear as mudd?

Jessica Morgan


On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Kris [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Hi, Ron --

Well, obviously I've just made a total mess of this, since no one seems 
to

understand what I'm talking about, so I'll try it this way --

What FIELD do I attach the source citation to?  I know children are 
linked
through birth certificates, etc., but what FIELD do I use for this in 
the

*mother* or *father's* individual information screen? Yes, I source the
child's birth date, etc., with the birth certificate in the *child's*
information screen -- but what about the parents' information screens?

I agree that if I have a birth certificate source, anyone reading the 
report

can probably assume that the child is linked to the parents through that
source.  But what if this is *before* birth certificates?  And I'm using 
a
combination of other information and sources to determine that Baby Doe 
is

the child of John Doe and Jane Doe?

If I have a will, some deeds, some newspaper articles and some census
information that all points to this being the child of these parents, 
what
FIELD in the parent's information screen do I use to show that this 
source,

or these sources, link these individuals that will also show up on an
ancestor or descendant report -- other than the father or mother
relationships in the Children's settings?

Or is it just the fact that the child shows up in the report as the 
child of
this marriage, and then when someone asks me how I determined that, I 
then
tell them how I did it?  And hope that they ask me before I'm dead 
myself?


Kris



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Re: [LegacyUG] What's the best way to source a relationship?

[John S. Adams]

Sorry, it my last post
7.  You will be taken to the Assigned Sources for:  Charles L. ADAMS 
screen.

should read:
7.  You will be taken to the Assigned Sources for:  [child's name] 
screen.


Didn't intend to further confuse and already confusing subject.

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA 




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