RE: [LegacyUG] Change Surname Spelling

[Branko and Chris]

Hi Dennis,

Thanks for your info. I would have thought that if one part of legacy
(Surname list) treats these characters, lets say correctly, we could assume
that the rest should also.

The surnames are Croatian and yes they actually begin with those characters.
Translated into English the "Š" character would sound like "Sh". If I
changed them to "Sh" naturally, one would never find them via most search
engines, therein lies the problem.

Will send a bug report to Legacy.


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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Dennis M. Kowallek
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 11:19 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Change Surname Spelling


On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:01:17 +1100, "Branko and Chris"
 wrote:

>Any thoughts on the inconsistency on the web names and surnames lists?

The web page's Name list is designed around the standard 26 letter alphabet.
It just doesn't know how to handle those special characters that you are
using (I looked at your web site).

Exactly what were you trying to accomplish with the special characters? Do
those names actually begin with those characters? If so, then I would write
this up as a bug report for Legacy.

P.S. I have some Rusyn ancestors that have special characters in their
names, but none of their names begins with a special character.
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Decendant Report with dates but not places

[ronald ferguson]

Gavin,
 
I'm not sure if this will do what you want, but it does find the descendants 
but not in a chart or report format.
 
Use advanced tagging to tag the descendants, say tag 1, then search for tag 1 
using Search>Find>Detailed Search click create and on the new screen select 
Print and customise as required.



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> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Decendant Report with dates but not places
> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:00:17 +1000
>
> Hi listers,
>
> As the subject says I want to print a descendant report (or chart) with
> dates but not places (because it gets too complicated to look at). My
> previous program could do it and I use it to visually track which families I
> have found the descendants of and which I don't.
>
> Thanks,
> Gavin...
>
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[LegacyUG] Decendant Report with dates but not places

[Gavin Nicholson]

Hi listers,

As the subject says I want to print a descendant report (or chart) with
dates but not places (because it gets too complicated to look at). My
previous program could do it and I use it to visually track which families I
have found the descendants of and which I don't.

Thanks,
Gavin...




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[LegacyUG] Error 508

[John Roose]

When trying to backup today I can not - and get Error 508. It is not in the
Legacy tech Error list.

I backed up the way I have for years. So, I then did all file maintenance;
same Error 508. I then tried to backup another (non-Legacy) file and had no
problem.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

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Re: [LegacyUG] The effect of Master Source Overrides

[Ward Walker]

Connie, you have answered my question about why use SourceWriter+Override 
instead of Basic:  i.e., in order to take advantage of the subsequent 
citation form. I see that the template called "add a generic source here" is 
not really all that generic/simple, but it appears that one might as well 
use _any_ template, when the intention is to override with your own 
free-form text.


By 'fudge' a template, as opposed to using the override feature, I meant 
what has been previously discussed about using the fields of the template 
creatively, not necessarily entering what the prompts suggest. Where this 
breaks down is for certain fields that have automatic text or punctuation 
that cannot be removed/rewritten. As Jenny says, it would be nice to be able 
to use most of a template and only override certain fields. (At the expense 
of more complexity and potential confusion.)


It strikes me that using the Detail Override fields would have the same 
problem as the ongoing bug with normal subsequent citations. Every instance 
of that master source, after the first one, will be treated as subsequent, 
regardless of which details are changing in each detailed citation. There is 
no mechanism to spell out all of the details when they differ significantly 
from the previous full citation.


I think of a template-driven citation as consisting of 4 groupings of 
fields:

 - master fields that always appear
 - master fields that disappear on subsequent citations
 - detail fields that always appear
 - detail fields that disappear on subsequent citations

It's that last one that's the rub. These fields currently disappear on any 
subsequent citation of the master source. I want them to reappear in certain 
cases, as we discussed a few weeks ago. (The rules for such cases will be 
complicated.)


Connie, are you now seeing a change in this aspect, compared to what you saw 
in December?


(As for the italics, the Cntl+i method appears to work.)

 Ward

- Original Message - 
From: "Connie Sheets" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] The effect of Master Source Overrides




Ward,

It appears that you have a response similar to the one I received 
yesterday.  I have not yet taken the time to fully comprehend it, or 
experimented to figure out what it means "in practice."  (Your post below 
is more understandable to me than what I received from Support).


Off the top of my head, I am left wondering:  if I cannot find a 
SourceWriter template that produces the desired results without an 
override, and I don't want to use the Basic format (primarily because it 
will not generate a Subsequent Citation), what is the alternative?  Is 
there a free-form "create your own source template" option hidden in 
Legacy that allows you to have a Master Source, a Subsequent Citation, and 
varying Details that I have missed?  What would be the purpose/in what 
circumstances would one use a Master Source override, since the Details 
will always "disappear."?  How _do_ you fudge a template?


Since receiving the e-mail from Support yesterday, I'm convinced there is 
something going on here that I simply don't understand.


(A few minutes later):  Okay, I think I have it.  My test family is now 
working more like it should for subsequent citations on the narrative 
descendant reports, perhaps thanks at least in part to the latest version; 
I'm not sure why that wasn't on the "we fixed it" list.  You have to make 
your override of the Master Source on the Details Override screen, and 
check the little boxes "Use this customized footnote on reports" and "Use 
this customized source citation on reports."  Duh.  It is not as intuitive 
as Legacy usually is, and is more work than I would like, but I think I 
can live with it.


Woo Hoo!!!

The one thing I don't see is a way to italicize certain words on the more 
free-form Details Override screen



Connie


Ward Walker wrote:


Aside: It appears that the Support team is just now catching

up to the 3 problem reports that I logged in December
related to source citations (and mostly regarding Subsequent
Citations). I have just received e-mails about 2 of the 3,
although not the most important one yet.

Connie, you and I have discussed this one on list (in fact,
you brought it up): When an override is used in the Master
source portion of the SourceWriter template, no Detail
source fields show up in the citation. Well, it turns out
that this is exactly as designed! When you type anything
into the override box on the master citation, that text is
intended, by design, to be the _complete_ citation (if you
also click the checkbox underneath). Then on the Detail
portion of the SourceWriter form, if you type anything into
the equivalent override box, it will take precedence over
the Master override and form the complete citation.

I had incorrectly assumed that the master override would
only affect the master 'fields' of the final
citation, and likewise for the 

RE: [LegacyUG] Password for Version 7

[Sherry/Support]

The password is on the download page, in case it doesn't get mailed to you.

We strongly urge our users to download the latest build from our website if
you need to reinstall Legacy.

The password to install Legacy v7 is "legacy7" without the quotes.

Thanks for using Legacy.

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Of Gociao
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 7:43 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Password for Version 7

What is the password for installing version 7?

Thank you

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Re: [LegacyUG] Password for Version 7

[Gociao]

Thank you, George.
George/Kathy wrote:

I think it's either legacy or legacy7.
 
George


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*Subject:* [LegacyUG] Password for Version 7

What is the password for installing version 7?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Clipboard

[Ruth Nerud]

Thank you so much. That was really easy. I'm afraid I don't pay attention to 
all the buttons like I should.

Ruth
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  From: Dede Holden 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 9:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Clipboard


  Ruth,

  I just checked this.  You can do it from the name list.  Click on the sources 
tab.  Highlight the source you want to copy and click the icon just below the 
sources field to copy it to the clipboard.  Then highlight the new event you 
want to add this source to.  Click on the blue horizontal line at the top left 
of the Name List box.

  Dede


  On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Ruth Nerud  wrote:

When I am in the Name List and click on the Sources tab, there is an icon 
at the bottom right to Copy to Clipboard. I highlight one of my Sources, click 
on the icon, move to another field, say for instance, Burial, I thought I could 
paste the Source I copied to the clipboard, but it won't let me do it. Does 
this feature not work?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Clipboard

[Dede Holden]

Ruth,

I just checked this.  You can do it from the name list.  Click on the
sources tab.  Highlight the source you want to copy and click the icon just
below the sources field to copy it to the clipboard.  Then highlight the new
event you want to add this source to.  Click on the blue horizontal line at
the top left of the Name List box.

Dede

On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Ruth Nerud wrote:

> When I am in the Name List and click on the Sources tab, there is an icon
> at the bottom right to Copy to Clipboard. I highlight one of my Sources,
> click on the icon, move to another field, say for instance, Burial, I
> thought I could paste the Source I copied to the clipboard, but it won't let
> me do it. Does this feature not work?
>
> Ruth
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Change Surname Spelling

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:01:17 +1100, "Branko and Chris"
 wrote:

>Any thoughts on the inconsistency on the web names and surnames lists?

The web page's Name list is designed around the standard 26 letter
alphabet. It just doesn't know how to handle those special characters
that you are using (I looked at your web site).

Exactly what were you trying to accomplish with the special characters?
Do those names actually begin with those characters? If so, then I would
write this up as a bug report for Legacy.

P.S. I have some Rusyn ancestors that have special characters in their
names, but none of their names begins with a special character.
 
-- 

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RE: [LegacyUG] Change Surname Spelling

[Branko and Chris]

Hi Dennis,

Thanks for the tip, didn't think of looking there. Much appreciated.

Any thoughts on the inconsistency on the web names and surnames lists?



Many Thanks
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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Dennis M. Kowallek
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 10:28 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Change Surname Spelling


On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:56:37 +1100, "Branko and Chris"
 wrote:

>Is there a way that surnames can be changed on mass

You can edit them in the Master Surname List.
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Change Surname Spelling

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:56:37 +1100, "Branko and Chris"
 wrote:

>Is there a way that surnames can be changed on mass

You can edit them in the Master Surname List.
 
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[LegacyUG] Clipboard

[Ruth Nerud]

When I am in the Name List and click on the Sources tab, there is an icon at 
the bottom right to Copy to Clipboard. I highlight one of my Sources, click 
on the icon, move to another field, say for instance, Burial, I thought I 
could paste the Source I copied to the clipboard, but it won't let me do it. 
Does this feature not work?


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[LegacyUG] Change Surname Spelling

[Branko and Chris]

Hi,

Some years ago I was being clever and used Special Characters as a starting
character in a surname and after countless years have only now as I'm
re-building the web pages I realised that the web Names List excludes every
surname starting with one of these characters, the funny thing is that the
Surname list contains every one of groups starting with those special
characters, hmmm.

I also note that in the Names List none of my "Z" surnames are listed. Again
there's a mixture of special character and the real Z itself, but nothing
displayed.

Is there a way that surnames can be changed on mass as I now have some 200
surnames to change or is there another solution? My preference would be not
to change the surnames but haven't a solution for the web names list.

Or is this a Legacy feature that somebody has already uncovered.



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Re: [LegacyUG] The effect of Master Source Overrides

[Jenny M Benson]

Connie Sheets wrote
Off the top of my head, I am left wondering:  if I cannot find a 
SourceWriter template that produces the desired results without an 
override, and I don't want to use the Basic format (primarily because 
it will not generate a Subsequent Citation), what is the alternative? 
Is there a free-form "create your own source template" option hidden in 
Legacy that allows you to have a Master Source, a Subsequent Citation, 
and varying Details that I have missed?  What would be the purpose/in 
what circumstances would one use a Master Source override, since the 
Details will always "disappear."? How _do_ you fudge a template?


I believe I have previously expressed a desire for something like a 
"create your own template" to cater for all those occasions when the 
Legacy ones really don't serve.


It's interesting that this thread has arisen now, because only a couple 
of days ago I ran into this problem of not being able (satisfactorily) 
to override the Master Source.  I was wanting to delete a line from the 
Master Source (by override) and use the corresponding field in Source 
Details to write some other information.  Can't be done!  Annoying 
because it would have saved me having to override the Source Details 
every time I wanted to cite that particular type of Source.


I simply don't see the reasoning behind overriding the Master rendering 
the Details unusable.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Password for Version 7

[George/Kathy]

I think it's either legacy or legacy7.

George
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  Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 9:42 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Password for Version 7


  What is the password for installing version 7?

  Thank you

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RE: [LegacyUG] Private Flaming

[MKO]

Simply use a rule in your email program to block people who flame you; very
easy to do.  If you totally ignore them they get nothing from flaming you.


I prefer the rootsweb forum - no problems like this list continually has.

Mark

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Sent: Sunday, 29 March 2009 12:55 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Private Flaming

Hear! Hear! Well said!! Maybe the private flames should be posted on the 
list for all to see.
Ann


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To: 
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Private Flaming


> Oh, Connie, please don't leave. You are one of a handful of people on this
> list that I feel I can count on to approach genealogy as the discipline 
> that
> it is.
>
> Either I have missed the flames directed at you (I do sometimes move 
> quickly
> through the mail), or they have been off-list. If off-list, they quickly
> merit the "delete" button. I have had several of those recently, too.
>
> There is a great group here (Ron, Wendy, JL, others) who offer good 
> counsel,
> and seldom any editorial content. They are great technical advisers.
>
> Then there is a group, bigger than I would like to think, who are simply
> argumentative, demanding, and difficult. This has been my primary problem 
> in
> sticking with Legacy. And I concur that, of all of the lists to which I 
> have
> belonged, this ranks among the most contentious.
>
> I must say the list coordinators are prone to listen to the "squeaky 
> wheels"
> rather than the more reasonable folk who populate the list. This 
> contributes
> to maintaining a lower tone.
>
> I like so many things about Legacy. I can't afford the time right now to
> change software (applying for the CG this year).
>
> I do hope that you will hang in there.
>
> Best,
> Janis Walker Gilmore
>
>
> On 3/27/09 4:27 PM, "Connie Sheets"  wrote:
>
> >
> > Because of the intensity and frequency of private flaming that I have 
> > been
> > receiving from this list over the last few weeks, I will be reverting to

> > as
> > close to "lurker" mode as I can muster, and am contemplating leaving the

> > list.
> >
> > I have always done my best to be helpful and keep to topic.  Quite 
> > frankly,
> > I've been on some contentious lists and message boards and have 
> > developed a
> > rather thick skin, but this one takes the prize for 
> > passive-aggressiveness.
> > To those who seem to have nothing better to do than write aggressive 
> > messages
> > to posters who innocently violate your concept of what is appropriate: 
> > the
> > Legacy staff, or the polite people on the board, will inform us if we 
> > mess up.
> > You don't have to do it for them.  If you aren't interested in the 
> > subject
> > line, the content of the first post the thread, or the name of the 
> > poster, use
> > the delete key thereafter.
> >
> > I deeply appreciate those of you who have helped me learn to make better

> > use
> > of Legacy, and I hope in the process I have at least occasionally helped
> > others.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy & Vista 64

[MKO]

Same here, vista64 & legacy 7.  I did let it install to the root directory
however as Legacy suggests.

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Sent: Sunday, 29 March 2009 2:32 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy & Vista 64


Thanks ... twice :)

 
C.G. Ouimet
Kingston, ON

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Ron Bernier
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 12:53
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy & Vista 64

I am running Legacy 7.o on Windows Vista 64bit without any problems or
issues.

Regards,
Ron Bernier
woonsocket, RI

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of C.G. Ouimet
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 12:48 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy & Vista 64

Does Legacy run on Vista 64bit?
 


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston, ON 

 

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