SV: [LegacyUG] Descendant Narrative Report

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

Jeff,

Do you want me to send you an example of a Descendant Narrative Report
formatted with events in sentences using the defined sentence structures?

Erik 

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Emne: Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Narrative Report

Well, now I can't find that either!
Try this
Click on "Report Options"
Click on the "Format" tab
See the "Event Narrative Format" words in a box on the right column
under "Event Format"
Click on that then select the 4th bullet in the list "Combine all
events into one paragraph".
If this doesn't work, it may be a deluxe edition feature.

On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 2:06 PM, legacy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Below, you state "Try Event Options . . . . ."  Where does one find "Event
> Options?"  I can't find this in the list of report options.
>
> TIA
> Karima
>
>> From: "Bruce Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 1:40 AM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Descendant Narrative Report
>>
>>> Try Event Options, Format, Event Narrative Format, Combine all events
>>> into one paragraph
>>> Does that give you what you want?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Jeff Hodge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 I am evaluating Legacy 7.  Since it is the Standard Edition I don't
have
 access to all features.  I am most interested in the Descendant
Narrative
 Report.  There is an example report at the Legacy website, however it
was
 produced using the formating option of putting events in as bulleted
items.
  I am interested in seeing a narrative formatted with events in
sentences
 using the defined sentence structures.  Does anyone have posted online
such
 a report that I could see?

 Thanks,
 Jeff
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SV: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

The book is indeed an add-on to Legacy - just not a software one.


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Emne: RE: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills


May I ask what this has to do with the use of Legacy and its add-on's?
The volume of messages on this list is already in overload!



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Subject: [LegacyUG] Evidence explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills

Hello Listers

I have been trawling the web for the book Evidence Explained by Elizabeth
Shown Mills and can find it only on USA based websites.

Does that mean that UK bookshops do not think it will sell as it is to USA
centric
Has any UK lister read the book and is it worth getting
John
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SV: [LegacyUG] how to register "foster siblings"?

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

Thanks, Susan.

Erik

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Emne: Re: [LegacyUG] how to register "foster siblings"?

Erik,
Go to the foster parents. Click on View - Childrens List. Highlight
the foster child in the list. If you click on Child Status, you can
then "Add" a new status, "foster child" to the list.

In reports, you can print the child status so this appears. There is
also a way to show Child Status in the family view, click on Options -
Customize - View, and in the lower right, "show status" click "on
children".

Susan

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Erik Pilgaard Vinther
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If a child is adopted or put into foster care of a family with other
> children, how is this registered in Legacy?
>
> Even though the foster child is not blood related to the other children
I'd
> still like to be able to register the relationship, but how?
>
> Thanks
> Erik
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SV: [LegacyUG] how to register "foster siblings"?

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

Thanks, Jenny.

Erik

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Emne: Re: [LegacyUG] how to register "foster siblings"?


Erik Pilgaard Vinther wrote
>If a child is adopted or put into foster care of a family with other 
>children, how is this registered in Legacy?
>
>Even though the foster child is not blood related to the other children 
>I'd still like to be able to register the relationship, but how?

Having entered the child with the desired parents, right click on the 
child and select Children's Settings.  With the child highlighted (it 
will be if there is only one entered) select from Child Status.

I think the default list for Child Status is Adopted, None, Stillborn or 
Twin, but you will see that there is an option to add any other Status 
you wish, so you can create Fostered.
-- 
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[LegacyUG] how to register "foster siblings"?

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

If a child is adopted or put into foster care of a family with other
children, how is this registered in Legacy?

Even though the foster child is not blood related to the other children I'd
still like to be able to register the relationship, but how?

Thanks
Erik




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RE: [LegacyUG] v7 update to 7.0.0.38

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

As a commercial software company, with a huge base of existing users craving
the new Legacy 7, I don't think it is unreasonable to ask Millennia to tell
us second class customers exactly when we CAN get Legacy 7 (I mean a date -
not "soon")

The not-possible-for-all-to-download-at-once argument has no validity.
Firstly, professional download services these days can handle thousands and
thousands of concurrent downloads. Secondly, this issue can come as no
surprise to Millennia, and of course they must have thought about how to
handle this. Thirdly, they have to open up for download at some point and if
this was a real issue, what will they do then?

Erik


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Emne: Re: [LegacyUG] v7 update to 7.0.0.38

I'm not sure I understand why version 7 hasn't been made available to 
"veteran" Legacy users. Just who are these "veteran" Legacy users and why 
did I get my free copy of version 7 last week and this self-appointed royal 
class didn't?

Another thing that puzzles me is who are these people, such as Cathy, who 
seem to attempt to answer every question but who has told me that she's 
never even seen the manual for version 7.

- Original Message - 
From: "Markie Flint Blackmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] v7 update to 7.0.0.38


> Unfortunately, most veteran Legacy users who would be in a position to 
> assist with the new version are unable to help, since V7 hasn't been made 
> available to us yet.
>
> Margaret
> Version 6.0.0.190
>
> Doris Miller-Beck wrote:
>> Jess,
>> I too had the same problem ~ I closed everything down and reopened 
>> Legacy,
>> found where I needed to enter my customer number and than went to Legacy
>> Home Tab and updated from there. It doesn't look much different to me 
>> than
>> V6, but I am a fairly new user of Legacy and so don't know about all the
>> bells and whistles yet. I cannot yet find the source conversion tool and 
>> I
>> too cannot get the new map feature to work.
>> Doris
>>
>>
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SV: [LegacyUG] Not fair Millennia!

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

Wauuu.. one has to be very careful not to raise any criticism towards
Millennia in this list, or risk being called names like cry baby and other
condescending names. It appears that the majority of the members of this
list are quite happy with legacy 6 and even older versions. Good for you – I
expect you’ll not be upgrading then. I, for one, don’t submit to the common
psychosis that Legacy 6 is simply the best genealogy program on the marked,
and that Millennia is providing the program to the community solely out the
goodness of their harts (it may come as big surprise to some, but they are
in the game for a profit). 

 

Anyway, over the passed years I have been submitting a number of change
requests to Legacy, some of which constitutes a major problem to me, in my
daily use of the program. Even though no promises were given by Millennia,
it is my hope that some of these changes are incorporated into the new
release.  That’s why I’m so eager to get the software.

 

Erik

 

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Emne: Re: [LegacyUG] Not fair Millennia!

 

I too have used Legacy for too many years to count. I've reached a point in
my software relationships that I am perfectly content to let LOTS of other
folks try out new releases before I put my money Down! LOL I just purchased
Version 6 last year! :-)

Alice-a satisfied customer since 2002

 

- Original Message - 

From: Mary Figgins <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 

Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 12:01 PM

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Not fair Millennia!

 


I agree.  I've been a user of Legacy for many, many years also. Even though
I was able to attend the conference, I can wait a few weeks until my turn
comes.  

It's easy to say - All it takes is __ when you really don't know
what's involved for things to run smoothly.  Who gets the blame if there's a
problem with the rollout of the update?  It won't be the customer who
couldn't wait.  They will all blame the merchant.

It is my understand that they are NOT SHIPPING the software to new
customers.  The only place new customers can get it is at the NGS
conference.  That doesn't involve any webpages or computer anything else,
just an exchange of product and money.  They also can't get the download
version which is less expensive.

Mary Beth

--- On Fri, 5/16/08, Dermot McGlone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Dermot McGlone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Not fair Millennia!
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Friday, May 16, 2008, 9:29 AM

"THAT'S SO NOT FAIRI WANT IT AND I WANT IT NOW!!!"


  


I'm sorry for the block caps, and the tone of the above line, but this


is what these messages remind me of, a three year old child whining


because his favourite toy was taken away.  I'm just getting sick and


tired of all these messages looking for v7 NOW.  Will you all please


relax, chill out, take a chill pill, chillax, whatever, but have a


little patience.


  


Does it REALLY matter if you have the new software a few weeks after


the very first release of it?  If you answer yes, ask yourself "why


does it matter?" Is your
 life going to be so much worse because you


have to wait about 21-28 or so days (I'm guessing here, I don't have


any insights)?


  


Come on, a little perspective is needed here.  There are many of us


who have been users of Legacy for quite a while (got Legacy v5.0 in


February 2005 myself), and while many of us are impatient, whining


like a child isn't going to make Millennia deliver it any faster.


  


Please, just take a step back, and have a little patience.


  


/* returns to normal lurking (and occasional interjection) */


  


Regards,


  


Dermot.


  


2008/5/16 Erik Pilgaard Vinther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


>


> Correct me if I have misunderstood, but as you are now shipping the Legacy


7


> Delux Version to new customers, the software IS ready. I can easily wait


for


> the major re-vamp of your website, the training videos, press releases,


> mailing list for announcements (I think
 it's save to say that all LUG


> members are fully aware of the new release) - I just want the software by


> download!


>


> Regards


> Erik


  


  


  


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SV: [LegacyUG] Not fair Millennia!

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

Correct me if I have misunderstood, but as you are now shipping the Legacy 7
Delux Version to new customers, the software IS ready. I can easily wait for
the major re-vamp of your website, the training videos, press releases,
mailing list for announcements (I think it's save to say that all LUG
members are fully aware of the new release) - I just want the software by
download!

Regards
Erik

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Emne: Re: [LegacyUG] Not fair Millennia!

> All it takes is for Millennia to put the program on an ftp
> server and add a single download link on their website.

That's true if all we were placing up there was the Standard Edition but
what 
fun would that be if you couldn't play with all the cool new Deluxe Edition 
features.   Also, we would kind of like to sell the Deluxe Edition and make
it 
available at the same time as the Standard Edition and we have a bunch of
work 
to re-vamp our website, redo our online store, finish up the training
videos, 
get CDs, work on press releases, compile mailing list to send out the 
announcements (so it's fair) and work on our ordering system to support the
new 
products, customer numbers, email lists, etc.

Those who purchase in last 10 months have already paid for Legacy 7.0 Deluxe
and 
really deserve to have it first.   We want to get Legacy ready and available
to 
everyone just as much as you want it.   I have just put in about 20 hours of

work and am headed to bed for a couple hours before I get up and do another
20 
hour day.   We are working hard to get it out to all of you.

Please, it's coming.   We ask for just a little more patience and
understanding.

Thanks

Ken McGinnis
Millennia Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
We are changing the world of genealogy!

- Original Message - 
From: "Erik Pilgaard Vinther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 5:25 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Not fair Millennia!


>I have NOT purchased my Legacy 6 within the last 10 months and are getting
> my free copy of legacy 7 shipped this moment, and i have NOT gone to the
NGS
> conference in Kansas to purchase a new copy. In other words, I'm an "old"
> and might I add faithful user of Legacy. How is this reworded by
Millennia?
> - by putting me at the bottom of the list of users to get the new release!
I
> really don't think this is fair, and I don't see why we have to wait. All
it
> takes is for Millennia to put the program on an ftp server and add a
single
> download link on their website.
>
> Erik
>
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[LegacyUG] Not fair Millennia!

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

I have NOT purchased my Legacy 6 within the last 10 months and are getting
my free copy of legacy 7 shipped this moment, and i have NOT gone to the NGS
conference in Kansas to purchase a new copy. In other words, I'm an "old"
and might I add faithful user of Legacy. How is this reworded by Millennia?
- by putting me at the bottom of the list of users to get the new release! I
really don't think this is fair, and I don't see why we have to wait. All it
takes is for Millennia to put the program on an ftp server and add a single
download link on their website.

Erik




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SV: [LegacyUG] events - married or individual??

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

June,

I'm struggling making the same choice. At first I put all such family events
on the marriage as I do think this is the proper place, in order not to have
the final report filled up with repetitive and redundant information. Then I
discovered that marriage event was not included in some reports (sure hope
this has changed in v7) so I duplicated the family events for each
individual involved in the event. However, I'm not happy with it, and I find
the generated reports annoying to read. I think I'll end up editing the
generated reports by hand in a word processor to make them interesting to
read by others then hardcore genealogist.

Erik

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Emne: [LegacyUG] events - married or individual??

I can never quite decide where to place events, census, anything in fact 
that happens to a couple once they are a couple; whether to put them on each

individual's page, repeating the info or put the info on the 'marriage' 
page. I am not quite sure how differently they show up in reports or 
wherever but I think there are some drawbacks to both choices. What do other

folk do (and are happy with???)
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SV: [LegacyUG] V6 - Adding Correspondence to Legacy

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

I would do as John suggests.

 

Erik

 

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Emne: Re: [LegacyUG] V6 - Adding Correspondence to Legacy

 

Steve,

I would record the letters as sources, transcribing the contents in the text
field or scanning them and attaching them as pictures, or both.  The letters
probably contain information about various family members which you would
enter for those individuals and use the letter(s) as sources.

 

Hope this helps.

 

John S. Adams
Hermosa Beach, CA

- Original Message - 

From: Steve Ayres   

To: Legacy User Group   

Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:12 PM

Subject: [LegacyUG] V6 - Adding Correspondence to Legacy

 

Mike, I like the idea of putting the version number first to assist
sorting/reading so here goes.
 
I have a number of very old letters from my G/Parents that I would like to
document somehow in a general area as distinct from an individuals notes if
possible in Legacy but cannot see how it can be done.  I am looking at
"Clooz" as a possibility but would like to try and keep everything within
Legacy to avoid another avenue for a mess to sort out latter, I'm having
enough fun with what I have without creating anything else.
 
Regards
 
Steve

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SV: [LegacyUG] to the powers that be

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

I don't think two lists would be a good idea. Naturally there will topics
only relevant for a particular version - especially v7 during the first time
after release, but many topics will be either of a general nature or
relevant to both versions. I vote for continuing the one list.

Erik

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Til: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Emne: Re: [LegacyUG] to the powers that be

Randolph Clark wrote
>Then, of course, you would need one for sourcing, one for mapping, etc.
>A better idea might be one for gripes, one for constructive criticism 
>and one for Legacy itself.

I think that would be going a bit too OTT, but Valerie has what sounds 
like a good idea - one list for Legacy 7 and one for previous versions.

However, the trouble is that many "problems" which are raised by someone 
using v7 will be equally relevant to earlier versions, and vice versa. 
Just as now there are a few queries about, say, v5 where the answer is 
only relevant to v5, but on the whole most topics relate to most 
versions, with perhaps more of a divide along de luxe/standard lines.

-- 
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SV: [LegacyUG] No Legacy v7 this week

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

That would be my interpretation too.

 

Erik

 

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Sendt: 14. maj 2008 00:28
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Emne: Re: [LegacyUG] No Legacy v7 this week

 

I guess that means, since I have v6 Deluxe, that the bare upgrade to v7
deluxe will be $21.95. Is that correct?

 

Art Seddon

 

- Original Message - 

From: Ken McGinnis   

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 

Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 1:17 PM

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No Legacy v7 this week

 

The upgrade prices will not change.  They will be the same as the price of
going from v5 to v6

http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=2

 

Those who still have v5 will have to pay the full price as we ony sell
upgrades for the previous version.   v6 to v7.

 

We can't give you an exact date yet but hopefully by the end of the month or
soon there after.


Thanks

 

Ken McGinnis
Millennia Corporation
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- Original Message - 

From: Art Seddon   

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 

Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 11:50 AM

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] No Legacy v7 this week

 

For those of us who have been using v6 for years, what will be the cost to
upgrade to v7? 

 

And when will it be available to us?

 

Art Seddon

 

 

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SV: [LegacyUG] cost of upgrade to Legacy 7

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

Jim,

 

I really find your comments about Ron highly unfair. I don’t find one rude
thing in his reply to you, and his views on the cost of the upcoming release
7 of Legacy I think are very realistic. In general I always find Ron’s
comments to be informative, friendly and unbiased – and you can always count
on Ron’s help if you have any questions about Legacy.

 

Erik

 

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Martell
Sendt: 13. maj 2008 17:35
Til: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Emne: Re: [LegacyUG] cost of upgrade to Legacy 7

 

Well, we've got at least one unbalanced misanthrope in the group!

 

I don't know what is wrong with the guy, Ron, but just ignore him. Most of
us in the group appreciate all the help you provide and don't think you are
rude at all.

 

___
Wayne Martell
Victoria, BC, Canada

 

- Original Message - 

From: Jim Keener   

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 

Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 6:38 AM

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] cost of upgrade to Legacy 7

 

I'm sorry it has taken me this long to read your rude answer to my comment.
Talk about someone who does not know what they are talking back.  Legacy 7
is a free upgrade to anyone who bought v.6 after the first of July.

 

I don't know who you think you are, but I'm tired of seeing your
mean-spirited responses on this board.  If I had a dollar for every rude
and/or condescending comment you've made on this board, I could buy a lot of
genealogy supplies.

 

You may have actually helped some people, but you've also caused a lot of
ill-will.  I would appreciate it if you would keep any comments you might
want to say to me to yourself. 

Remember all the new posters saying how rude this board is to people?  You
own a large amount of that credit.

 

Legacy may want to kick me off for confronting you, but I'd rather be
removed than to have to listen to you.

 

Jim R. Keener

On Thu, Aug 9, 2007 at 7:41 AM, ronald ferguson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It is normal for Legacy to offer new purchasers the option of a free upgrade
to a new version if one is imminient. This is normal business practice for
many companies and in no way implies that the new version will be free.

I would be very surprised if the new version costs any less than version 6
did when it was first released. Let's be realistic Legacy has to pay its
staff, developers, overheads and make a profit to stay in business. If it
did not there would no Legacy for anyone.

For once let's get real about this and stop expecting the earth for nothing!

Ron Ferguson





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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] cost of upgrade to Legacy 7
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 06:49:36 -0400 



I purchased the download version 6 about six weeks ago.  When I bought it
their website said version  7 would be a free upgrade when it comes out.

On 8/8/07, Lisa Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Surely the cost of the upgrade will be less than the cost of Legacy 6.
>
> Lisa
>
> Renee Zamora wrote:
> > While at the BYU Family History and Genealogy Conference I bought
> > version 6 again. (In hopes that Legacy will send me version 7 before it
> > hits the retail stores. No promises made but I can dream anyways.) There
> > was a sticker on the box that said "FREE Upgrade to version 7". Inside
> > the box was were instructions on how to register and receive version 7
> > when it comes out. So I would assume anyone buying from the Legacy store
> > would get the same type of instructions.
> >
> > I have no idea when Legacy started to promise the free upgrade to
> > version 7 with a purchase of version 6. But I know my original version 6
> > didn't have that offer. (I bought it when it was released.) I would of
> > had to purchase or upgrade to version 7 when it came out anyways. If you
> > just bought version 6 I would call Legacy (number on website) and ask if
> > it comes with a free upgrade.
> >
> > So the answer to your question - it depends on when you bought version 6
> > if the upgrade to 7 will cost or not.
> >
> > Renee Zamora
> > www.harrisena.com  


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SV: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting - more questions/request on functionality

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

Rodney,

Your statement ...
"As far as I can see, it will be superior to Progeny's product."
calls for a comment (running the risk of getting this thread banned too ;-)

I have been using Legacy Charting Companion for a long time, and apart from
a more fancy GUI (for better, for worse), Legacy Charting is FAR behind
Progeny in terms of functionality.

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SV: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting - more questions/request on functionality

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

Rodney,

I stand corrected.

(for the record, i wasn't supposing, merely speculation. No disrespect
intended)

Erik

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Rodney Hall
Sendt: 4. maj 2008 21:09
Til: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Emne: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting - more questions/request on
functionality

Erik,

You are very wrong in your supposition.

Luc Comeau, who works for Millenium is hard at work perfecting Legacy
Charting - I am a beta tester - is certainly NOT sub-contracted to Progeny
and has nothing to do with them.

Legacy Charting will be a part of Legacy v7 and will also be available as a
standalone product. As far as I can see, it will be superior to Progeny's
product.

We just have to be patient for the next release of the best genealogy
program available!

-- 
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Heywood, Lancashire

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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik
Pilgaard Vinther
Sent: 04 May 2008 19:15
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: SV: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting - more questions/request on
functionality

Al,

A clarification: the 'Legacy Charting 7' we are debating here is a Millennia
product and is going to be an integral part of the eternal
soon-to-be-released Legacy 7. 'Legacy Charting Companion' is a Progeny
product and is as such independent of 'Legacy Charting 7'. However, as
Progeny has all the charting technology at hand, perhaps Millennia have
subcontracted the development of 'Legacy Charting 7' to Progeny, but that’s
just me speculating.

Erik


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Sendt: 4. maj 2008 13:09
Til: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Emne: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting - more questions/request on
functionality


Same thing here Erik!

I do second all your remarks and "requests".

Version 7.0, as we've seen so far, lacks many "basic" and "immediate"
features.

I sincerely hope that Legacy Charting development team is reading to these
postings and will take adequate corrective actions.

BTW, will this new version of Legacy Charting Companion also be distributed
as simple add-in (to those who don't want to upgrade to Legacy 7.0 when it
comes out)?

Has anybody heard anything about upgrade fees (to owners of previous
versions of Legacy Charting Companion, more precisely v.2)?

By the same token, will there be any upgrade fees (to Legacy 7.0)?

I believe they should take into account "regulars" who have purchased
several previous versions (such as v 4.0, 5.0, and 6.0).

Best,

Al

-----Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik
Pilgaard Vinther
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 5:47 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting - more questions/request on
functionality

As i can't find the functions mentioned below, i guess this message is aimed
at the Legacy Charting development team as change requests, but should
anyone on this list know how-to I'll be happy to hear about it.

- undo changes (Ctrl-Z)
- aligning selected boxes, vertically and horizontally
- snap to grid
- changing colour and shape of individual or group of boxes, independently
of the selected theme
- a colour theme differentiating spouses from blood relatives

Thanks
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[LegacyUG] SV: [Legacy] Legacy Charting - more questions/request on functionality

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

Ron,

> - undo changes (Ctrl-Z)

>> not quite the same but next to the bottom button on the left hand side =
"Reformat"

I'm glad to see you have a sense of humor :-)) Reformat brings the chart
back to its initial layout, and all changes are lost (in effect a "Reset").
By 'undo changes', as I'm sure you are aware, I mean only cancel the last
change made to the chart.

> - aligning selected boxes, vertically and horizontally

>> see the tree structures on the left: 3rd down Drag one individual

Not quite was I was looking for. After rearranging a complete chart it can
be rather time consuming to manually align all persons in i.e. one
generation. A much more convenient way would be to select all the persons in
the generation as a group and activate a function called 'align vertically'.
This and a similar function called 'align horizontally' are usually found in
charting program.

> - a colour theme differentiating spouses from blood relatives

>> Themes>4 Gen Colour Coding ?

I assume you are referring to Color > By Generation > Colors 4. Personally I
do prefer generation color coding, but want all "foreign" spouses to stick
out.

Thanks
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SV: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting - more questions/request on functionality

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

Al,

A clarification: the 'Legacy Charting 7' we are debating here is a Millennia
product and is going to be an integral part of the eternal
soon-to-be-released Legacy 7. 'Legacy Charting Companion' is a Progeny
product and is as such independent of 'Legacy Charting 7'. However, as
Progeny has all the charting technology at hand, perhaps Millennia have
subcontracted the development of 'Legacy Charting 7' to Progeny, but that’s
just me speculating.

Erik


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Alvaro Hernandez
Sendt: 4. maj 2008 13:09
Til: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Emne: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting - more questions/request on
functionality


Same thing here Erik!

I do second all your remarks and "requests".

Version 7.0, as we've seen so far, lacks many "basic" and "immediate"
features.

I sincerely hope that Legacy Charting development team is reading to these
postings and will take adequate corrective actions.

BTW, will this new version of Legacy Charting Companion also be distributed
as simple add-in (to those who don't want to upgrade to Legacy 7.0 when it
comes out)?

Has anybody heard anything about upgrade fees (to owners of previous
versions of Legacy Charting Companion, more precisely v.2)?

By the same token, will there be any upgrade fees (to Legacy 7.0)?

I believe they should take into account "regulars" who have purchased
several previous versions (such as v 4.0, 5.0, and 6.0).

Best,

Al

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik
Pilgaard Vinther
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 5:47 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting - more questions/request on
functionality

As i can't find the functions mentioned below, i guess this message is aimed
at the Legacy Charting development team as change requests, but should
anyone on this list know how-to I'll be happy to hear about it.

- undo changes (Ctrl-Z)
- aligning selected boxes, vertically and horizontally
- snap to grid
- changing colour and shape of individual or group of boxes, independently
of the selected theme
- a colour theme differentiating spouses from blood relatives

Thanks
Erik




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SV: [LegacyUG] Where are Customized Sentence Definitions stored?

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

Hi Cathy,

This sounds like a workable solution. 

Thanks
Erik

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Emne: Re: [LegacyUG] Where are Customized Sentence Definitions stored?

Hi Erik,
The Sentence Definitions are saved in the Family File.
You can import Sentence Definitions from one Family File to another 
so I'd set up a Family File to store the Sentence Definitions 
relevant to both languages.
Note that if you open that file in the wrong language you'll lose 
them so make sure you also have backups of these files.
You import Sentence Definitions from the Options button - Import when 
viewing any Master List. You choose which master lists you wish to import.

If you have a backup of your family file in the right language, you 
could open that with Legacy set to that language and make sure you 
name it something else so that it doesn't overwrite your current 
Family File. Then you could import from that backup.

I hope that makes sense. It's easier to do than explain, especially 
as I'm not 100% today.
Cathy

At 06:02 PM 3/05/2008, you wrote:

>In order to facilitate printing reports in both Danish and English I switch
>the Legacy working language between the two. One problem doing this is that
>any customizations of the sentence definitions are lost when I switch, so I
>wondered if anyone knows if these customized sentence definitions are store
>in a separate file that I could save and restore after the switch?
>
>Thanks
>Erik




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[LegacyUG] Legacy Charting - more questions/request on functionality

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

As i can't find the functions mentioned below, i guess this message is aimed
at the Legacy Charting development team as change requests, but should
anyone on this list know how-to I'll be happy to hear about it.

- undo changes (Ctrl-Z)
- aligning selected boxes, vertically and horizontally
- snap to grid
- changing colour and shape of individual or group of boxes, independently
of the selected theme
- a colour theme differentiating spouses from blood relatives

Thanks
Erik




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SV: [LegacyUG] Version 7

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

Hi Al,

 

Currently, left-right descendant charts are not available in Legacy Charting
v7.

 

I view these as indispensable, and I certainly hope they will be included in
the final release.

 

Regards

Erik

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Prof. Dr.
Alvaro Hernandez
Sendt: 3. maj 2008 23:24
Til: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Emne: [LegacyUG] Version 7

 

Hi everybody.

 

I´ve been using Legacy Charting Companion v.2.0.9 for quite a long time.

 

Just installed version 7.

 

I´m not able to generate a descendant chart oriented from left-to-right
(only top-bottom).

 

Does anyone know how to do the trick?

 

(I believe Erik has sent an e-mail earlier today asking the same question)

 

Will there be other types of charts and/or reports??

 

Tks.

 

Al

 



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SV: SV: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting customization questions

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

Ron,

I hope you enjoyed your beers - your time off this list is well earned!

No, sorry, the location of the File menu had escaped me. Taking of which (my
favourite hate theme), I would strongly advice all Microsoft Windows program
designers to adhere to the good old fashioned Windows menu standard where
item # one is File, item # two is Edit, somewhere in the middle you have
View and at the end you have Window and Help. Any creativity on the part of
the program designers should in my opinion be invested in the programs
functionality - not in hiding standard functionality in obscure places. BUT
that’s another discussion all together ;-)

Thus uplifted by this opportunity to sound my views on the subject of
"modern GUI design", back to the issue of resizing. Yes, exporting the chart
to a jpg file could be a workaround, but not an attractive one. Let me give
an example. If you have a chart spanning two pages in landscape orientation,
but only 10% of page two is occupied by chart element. In other words, 90%
of page two is blank and needs to be cut out of the jpg image before
printing to allow the chart to fill out the entire page width. What you'll
have to do then is:
- load the exported jpg file in a image editing program
- crop the part with the chart (100+10%)
- save the cropped image (for future reference)
- print the copped image

However, this requires that the printer driver offers the "Fit to page"
function. If not, you'll have to experiment with the dpi setting, until the
cropped image prints out on exactly one page, and my bet is that this is
going to take quite a large number of trails.

The only sensible solution is for Legacy Charting to offer a resizing
function.

Regards
Erik



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Erik,

Though you knew about that - it is that function I refer to in my last email
when I talk about how dependant it now is on the printer.

Re: resize - have you looked my comment regarding dpi when exporting as a
.jpg etc.?


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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: SV: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting customization questions
> Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 13:46:21 +0200
>
> Paper orientation issue resolved: the standard Windows File menu is hidden
> behind the circular chart icon in the upper left corner and that contains
> the Page Setup option that I was looking for.
>
> I'm still missing the resize function though (not the same as the zoom
> function that only scales the view)
>
> Erik
>
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne af Erik
> Pilgaard Vinther
> Sendt: 3. maj 2008 13:16
> Til: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Emne: SV: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting customization questions
>
> Ron,
>
> Basically what I'm trying to accomplish is to have a chart span as few
pages
> of paper as possible.
>
> If, for example, only a small part of a chart expands outside page one,
> resizing all chart elements including the text font, can make the chart
fit
> on one page. In Progeny Legacy Charting Companion, that I have been using
> until now, such an on-click resizing function is available and it is very
> useful (i simply set the scale factor to e.g. 90% and the entire chart
> shrinks 10%).
>
> In regards to paper orientation, Legacy Charting reflects the orientation
of
> the default printer setting. If I want to change the orientation of a
chart
> in Legacy Charting I have to change the orientation in the printer
settings.
> This is of course possible, but a better solution also supported by all
> other programs I can think of including Progeny Legacy Charting Companion,
> is to have the program control the orientation, i.e. when I print a text
> document from Microsoft Word it uses portrait orientation per default, but
> if I want, every single document can have a different orientation.
Likewise
> when I print photos from Adobe Photoshop every single image can have a
> different orientation. The point being, that one selects the orientation
for
> once for each individual document, photo, chart etc, without worrying
about
> changing the printer setting before printing.
>
> Thanks
> Erik
>
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-

SV: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting customization questions

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

Paper orientation issue resolved: the standard Windows File menu is hidden
behind the circular chart icon in the upper left corner and that contains
the Page Setup option that I was looking for.

I'm still missing the resize function though (not the same as the zoom
function that only scales the view)
 
Erik

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Emne: SV: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting customization questions

Ron,

Basically what I'm trying to accomplish is to have a chart span as few pages
of paper as possible.

If, for example, only a small part of a chart expands outside page one,
resizing all chart elements including the text font, can make the chart fit
on one page. In Progeny Legacy Charting Companion, that I have been using
until now, such an on-click resizing function is available and it is very
useful (i simply set the scale factor to e.g. 90% and the entire chart
shrinks 10%). 

In regards to paper orientation, Legacy Charting reflects the orientation of
the default printer setting. If I want to change the orientation of a chart
in Legacy Charting I have to change the orientation in the printer settings.
This is of course possible, but a better solution also supported by all
other programs I can think of including Progeny Legacy Charting Companion,
is to have the program control the orientation, i.e. when I print a text
document from Microsoft Word it uses portrait orientation per default, but
if I want, every single document can have a different orientation. Likewise
when I print photos from Adobe Photoshop every single image can have a
different orientation. The point being, that one selects the orientation for
once for each individual document, photo, chart etc, without worrying about
changing the printer setting before printing.

Thanks
Erik

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Emne: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting customization questions


Erik,

I think I am missing some thing here! The answer to your last question seems
to be "No".

I am not clear about what you are trying to do with respect to the other
questions. The paper orientation is something that one would normally do
using one's printers control and I cannot see why one would wish to do this
on the screen output.

On the screen the magnifiers are, obviously, used to change the size. For
just saving the file in the default format (.lwc) the answer seems to be
"No" again. If, however, one is exporting to .jpg etc (Pubish>Export to
File) then the number of dots per inch can be changed.

Perhaps if more clarification as to what you are trying to achieve, or the
problem defined, it may be possible to help further.


Ron Ferguson

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting customization questions
> Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 11:24:41 +0200
>
> I'm missing the possibilities to ...
>
> - change the paper orientation (portrait vs. landscape)
> - resizing the entire chart
> - left-right oriented descendant charts
>
> Is this possible?
>
> Thanks
> Erik
>

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SV: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting customization questions

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

Ron,

Basically what I'm trying to accomplish is to have a chart span as few pages
of paper as possible.

If, for example, only a small part of a chart expands outside page one,
resizing all chart elements including the text font, can make the chart fit
on one page. In Progeny Legacy Charting Companion, that I have been using
until now, such an on-click resizing function is available and it is very
useful (i simply set the scale factor to e.g. 90% and the entire chart
shrinks 10%). 

In regards to paper orientation, Legacy Charting reflects the orientation of
the default printer setting. If I want to change the orientation of a chart
in Legacy Charting I have to change the orientation in the printer settings.
This is of course possible, but a better solution also supported by all
other programs I can think of including Progeny Legacy Charting Companion,
is to have the program control the orientation, i.e. when I print a text
document from Microsoft Word it uses portrait orientation per default, but
if I want, every single document can have a different orientation. Likewise
when I print photos from Adobe Photoshop every single image can have a
different orientation. The point being, that one selects the orientation for
once for each individual document, photo, chart etc, without worrying about
changing the printer setting before printing.

Thanks
Erik

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Emne: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting customization questions


Erik,

I think I am missing some thing here! The answer to your last question seems
to be "No".

I am not clear about what you are trying to do with respect to the other
questions. The paper orientation is something that one would normally do
using one's printers control and I cannot see why one would wish to do this
on the screen output.

On the screen the magnifiers are, obviously, used to change the size. For
just saving the file in the default format (.lwc) the answer seems to be
"No" again. If, however, one is exporting to .jpg etc (Pubish>Export to
File) then the number of dots per inch can be changed.

Perhaps if more clarification as to what you are trying to achieve, or the
problem defined, it may be possible to help further.


Ron Ferguson

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting customization questions
> Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 11:24:41 +0200
>
> I'm missing the possibilities to ...
>
> - change the paper orientation (portrait vs. landscape)
> - resizing the entire chart
> - left-right oriented descendant charts
>
> Is this possible?
>
> Thanks
> Erik
>

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[LegacyUG] Where are Customized Sentence Definitions stored?

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

In order to facilitate printing reports in both Danish and English I switch
the Legacy working language between the two. One problem doing this is that
any customizations of the sentence definitions are lost when I switch, so I
wondered if anyone knows if these customized sentence definitions are store
in a separate file that I could save and restore after the switch?

Thanks
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[LegacyUG] Legacy Charting customization questions

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

I'm missing the possibilities to ...

- change the paper orientation (portrait vs. landscape)
- resizing the entire chart
- left-right oriented descendant charts

Is this possible?

Thanks
Erik

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Emne: RE: [LegacyUG] Update to pre-release of Legacy Charting available
(7.0.094)


Luc,

Thank you all for resolving the problem of the cutting off of the right hand
side and bottom of larger charts.


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Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 15:45:15 -0700
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Update to pre-release of Legacy Charting available
(7.0.094)

Here is a download link for the update.

http://ftp.legacyfamilytree.org/Download/Charting7/SetupLegacyChartUpdate.ex
e

Run the file after downloading it.

Thanks,
Luc Comeau
Legacy Family Tree



On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Mike Fry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Luc Comeau wrote:


An update to the pre-release of Legacy Charting is available.  To update
Legacy Charting please do the following:

1) You need to be connected to the Internet
2) Start your current version of Legacy Charting
3) Click on the tab "Tips & Updates"
4) Click on the red download button.

What red download button? Mine still says 7.0.077 is the latest.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg.



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SV: [LegacyUG] Boyd Miller - Sentence Structure

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

Thomas,

Could i get a copy of this "Data and Source Conventions for Legacy"

Thanks
Erik


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Emne: Re: [LegacyUG] Boyd Miller - Sentence Structure

I believe it's humorous that some people have to respond to a question 
whether or not they know anything about it. If you think that Boyd didn't 
add the [Sources] [Notes] tag, are you calling me a liar? ;-)

- Original Message - 
From: "Elizabeth Richardson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Boyd Miller - Sentence Structure


>I don't think he added the [Sources] [Notes] tag. That's the way all Legacy

>events are structured. The location of the [Sources] is where the 
>superscripted number of the source will appear. The notes will be added to 
>the end of the event entry.
>
> Elizabeth
> researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson
>
>>
>> Not trying to be funny, but he probably added the [Sources] and
>> [Notes] tags at the end of each of the event sentence structures so
>> that the sources and notes would show in the sentence!!
>>
>>>
>>> Last Fall, Boyd Miller very kindly shared with me his Data and Source 
>>> Conventions for Legacy. I recently tried to contact him via the e-mail 
>>> address he supplie last Fall but did not receive a response. Therefore,.

>>> I am wondering if anyone knows the purpose of his adding [Sources] 
>>> [Notes} at the end of all his recommended modified sentence structures 
>>> for events. Here is an example of his suggested sentence structure for 
>>> a Census:
>>>
>>> In the [Date] census [HeShe] is shown as [Desc] [inPlace] [Sources] 
>>> [Notes]
>>>
>
>
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SV: [LegacyUG] Bi-lingual report issue

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

Fred,

This looks like a simple, but useful solution.

Thanks
Erik

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Emne: Re: [LegacyUG] Bi-lingual report issue

Eric:
Use a combination of privacy brackets and global search and replace.

event note:

[[xxx note in first language xxx]]
[[yyy note in second language yyy]]

where xxx and yyy are unique codes that can be searched and replace.

search for [[xxx and replace with {{xxx
search for xxx]] and replace with xxx}}

This will expose the first language and hide the second.

Reverse the search and replace to hide the first language.

use the [[yyy and yyy]] to expose the second language as described above.

I think this will work but I haven't tried it.

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SV: SV: [LegacyUG] Bi-lingual report issue

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

Rich,

Would this not require two Legacy files?

If not, could you elaborate a bit, as I don't quite understand.

Thanks
Erik

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Emne: Re: SV: [LegacyUG] Bi-lingual report issue

I would create a duplicate set of sources, in both
languages, with one one of them with [[ ]] around
language 1, and the second copy around language 2.
This way you can send in their native language, with
the brackets around the other version. Then, if they
get Legacy for themselves, they can then downloaded
either private or public. That gives the reciever a
choice, and once set up, you never have to re-edit
your docs.
Rich in LA CA

--- Erik Pilgaard Vinther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> My primary concern is the Event Notes and Source
> Text as the event names and
> event sentence definitions are translated
> automatically when I switch
> language in Legacy (in my case I'm so fortunate that
> Legacy supports both
> languages in question).
> 
> As you suggest, properly the easiest solution is to
> write a separate
> paragraph in both languages in the Notes and thus
> produce true bilingual
> reports, but I'd still prefer single-language
> reports.
> 
> As Kathy suggest, the privacy brackets could be used
> as part of the
> solution. This approach, as I understand it, gives
> the possibility of
> including or excluding one of languages in the
> reports, but the other
> language will always be printed.
> 
> Considering the international distribution of Legacy
> users, it's strange
> that bilingual (or multilingual) reports etc. are
> not supported in a better
> way by Legacy.
> 
> Regards
> Erik  
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
> Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> På vegne af C.G. Ouimet
> Sendt: 26. april 2008 17:53
> Til: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Emne: RE: [LegacyUG] Bi-lingual report issue
> 
> The other option is to have bilingual events and
> sources with notes in both
> languages. I don't worry too much about bilingual
> sources but I usually have
> bilingual events like Godfather/Parrain ...
> 
> 
>  
> C.G. Ouimet
> Kingston, ON
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Erik
> Pilgaard Vinther
> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 09:52
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: SV: [LegacyUG] Bi-lingual report issue
> 
> That's certainly an idea. To follow that line I'd
> also have to double all
> events as I usually add descriptive notes to events.
> My initial idea was to
> generate two reports, but I don't think is it
> possible to have the report
> generator select sources and event based on language
> (or other criterias for
> that matter)? An alternative would be to generate
> just one bi-lingual report
> containing all double sources and events.
> 
> Erik
> DK
> 
> -Oprindelig meddelelse-
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> Emne: RE: [LegacyUG] Bi-lingual report issue
> 
> 
> I suppose you could double source, one in each of
> the two languages. ??? 
> 
> 
>  
> C.G. Ouimet
> Kingston, ON
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Erik
> Pilgaard Vinther
> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 06:30
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Bi-lingual report issue
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have the need of generation Legacy reports and
> books in at least two
> languages, depending on the nationality of the
> people I want to address. I
> expect many other Legacy users must have the same
> needs.
> 
> By changing the Language in Legacy itself and/or
> changing the Report
> Language, I can easily change the standard wording
> and standard phrases in
> reports and books, but all descriptions, notes and
> transcripts are naturally
> printed in the language they are entered. I don't
> expect Legacy to
> automatically translate these texts for me, but I'm
> looking for some advice
> on a practical way of handling this bi-lingual
> problem. I could of course
> maintain two Legacy files, but that's not an
> attractive solution to me. 
> 
> Any comments, ideas and advice are very welcome.
> 
> Thanks
> Erik
> 
> 
> 
> 
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SV: [LegacyUG] Bi-lingual report issue

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

My primary concern is the Event Notes and Source Text as the event names and
event sentence definitions are translated automatically when I switch
language in Legacy (in my case I'm so fortunate that Legacy supports both
languages in question).

As you suggest, properly the easiest solution is to write a separate
paragraph in both languages in the Notes and thus produce true bilingual
reports, but I'd still prefer single-language reports.

As Kathy suggest, the privacy brackets could be used as part of the
solution. This approach, as I understand it, gives the possibility of
including or excluding one of languages in the reports, but the other
language will always be printed.

Considering the international distribution of Legacy users, it's strange
that bilingual (or multilingual) reports etc. are not supported in a better
way by Legacy.

Regards
Erik  

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Emne: RE: [LegacyUG] Bi-lingual report issue

The other option is to have bilingual events and sources with notes in both
languages. I don't worry too much about bilingual sources but I usually have
bilingual events like Godfather/Parrain ...


 
C.G. Ouimet
Kingston, ON

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Pilgaard Vinther
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 09:52
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: SV: [LegacyUG] Bi-lingual report issue

That's certainly an idea. To follow that line I'd also have to double all
events as I usually add descriptive notes to events. My initial idea was to
generate two reports, but I don't think is it possible to have the report
generator select sources and event based on language (or other criterias for
that matter)? An alternative would be to generate just one bi-lingual report
containing all double sources and events.

Erik
DK

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I suppose you could double source, one in each of the two languages. ??? 


 
C.G. Ouimet
Kingston, ON

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Bi-lingual report issue

Hi,

I have the need of generation Legacy reports and books in at least two
languages, depending on the nationality of the people I want to address. I
expect many other Legacy users must have the same needs.

By changing the Language in Legacy itself and/or changing the Report
Language, I can easily change the standard wording and standard phrases in
reports and books, but all descriptions, notes and transcripts are naturally
printed in the language they are entered. I don't expect Legacy to
automatically translate these texts for me, but I'm looking for some advice
on a practical way of handling this bi-lingual problem. I could of course
maintain two Legacy files, but that's not an attractive solution to me. 

Any comments, ideas and advice are very welcome.

Thanks
Erik




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SV: SV: [LegacyUG] Bi-lingual report issue

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

Kathy,

Not a bad idea. I assume you were thinking of something like this for e.g.
event notes:

Text in one language

[[The same text in another language]]

Privacy brackets could be an easy way of including/excluding the one
language paragraphs, but the other language will always be printed, or have
I missed something?

Regards
Erik

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Emne: Re: SV: [LegacyUG] Bi-lingual report issue

Erik:
One idea might be to write your reports  in both languages for each 
individual and then use privacy brackets around the language not 
desired, making sure that that selection is maintained when the 
report is generated. It also means that both languages could be 
available if you wanted to generate a truly bilingual report. The 
privacy brackets  are[[]]. Legacy treats anything contained within as 
private and printing or not printing is a very simple toggle type 
selection on the"what to include" page of the report generation 
screen. Does this help?
Kathy
At 09:51 AM 4/26/2008, you wrote:
>Marielle,
>
>Except that my choice of languages would be Danish and English, this 
>is exactly what I want. How have you done this?
>
>Erik
>




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SV: [LegacyUG] Bi-lingual report issue

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

That's certainly an idea. To follow that line I'd also have to double all
events as I usually add descriptive notes to events. My initial idea was to
generate two reports, but I don't think is it possible to have the report
generator select sources and event based on language (or other criterias for
that matter)? An alternative would be to generate just one bi-lingual report
containing all double sources and events.

Erik
DK

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Emne: RE: [LegacyUG] Bi-lingual report issue


I suppose you could double source, one in each of the two languages. ??? 


 
C.G. Ouimet
Kingston, ON

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Bi-lingual report issue

Hi,

I have the need of generation Legacy reports and books in at least two
languages, depending on the nationality of the people I want to address. I
expect many other Legacy users must have the same needs.

By changing the Language in Legacy itself and/or changing the Report
Language, I can easily change the standard wording and standard phrases in
reports and books, but all descriptions, notes and transcripts are naturally
printed in the language they are entered. I don't expect Legacy to
automatically translate these texts for me, but I'm looking for some advice
on a practical way of handling this bi-lingual problem. I could of course
maintain two Legacy files, but that's not an attractive solution to me. 

Any comments, ideas and advice are very welcome.

Thanks
Erik




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SV: [LegacyUG] Bi-lingual report issue

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

Marielle,

 

Except that my choice of languages would be Danish and English, this is
exactly what I want. How have you done this?

 

Erik

 

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Emne: Re: [LegacyUG] Bi-lingual report issue

 

This may not be a solution for some people but what I have written in French
for my French Canadian side of the family and English for the others so that
when I send a report to someone it everything is in the language of their
choice.  This is exceptionally helpful now that I have access to Drouin
on-line as all the information is in French.

Marielle




On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 6:30 AM, Erik Pilgaard Vinther
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

I have the need of generation Legacy reports and books in at least two
languages, depending on the nationality of the people I want to address. I
expect many other Legacy users must have the same needs.

By changing the Language in Legacy itself and/or changing the Report
Language, I can easily change the standard wording and standard phrases in
reports and books, but all descriptions, notes and transcripts are naturally
printed in the language they are entered. I don't expect Legacy to
automatically translate these texts for me, but I'm looking for some advice
on a practical way of handling this bi-lingual problem. I could of course
maintain two Legacy files, but that's not an attractive solution to me.

Any comments, ideas and advice are very welcome.

Thanks
Erik




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[LegacyUG] Bi-lingual report issue

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

Hi,

I have the need of generation Legacy reports and books in at least two
languages, depending on the nationality of the people I want to address. I
expect many other Legacy users must have the same needs.

By changing the Language in Legacy itself and/or changing the Report
Language, I can easily change the standard wording and standard phrases in
reports and books, but all descriptions, notes and transcripts are naturally
printed in the language they are entered. I don't expect Legacy to
automatically translate these texts for me, but I'm looking for some advice
on a practical way of handling this bi-lingual problem. I could of course
maintain two Legacy files, but that's not an attractive solution to me. 

Any comments, ideas and advice are very welcome.

Thanks
Erik




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[LegacyUG] Download speed very low

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

Hi,

Yesterday i wanted to download the latest updates to Legacy, but something
went wrong and i now have to download the full setup program. However, the
download speed is getting lower and lower, and after a few minutes it almost
comes to a stand still (approx. 5-10% of my available bandwidth)

Anyone know what this is?

Regards
Erik




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SV: [LegacyUG] Advice on (compound) event

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

Hi Susan,

Thanks for your replay - also very useful. I se now, how the Legacy fields,
sentence definitions and narrative descriptions in Notes, can be combined in
a very powerful way of writing up my family history.

My initial thought was to record all hard facts in Legacy, generate a
report/book and then add all the narrative descriptions using a word
processor. I now see that this would be not only unnecessary, but also
ill-advised as I would have to maintain two sets of genealogy files.

Thanks
Erik

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Sendt: 16. februar 2008 17:37
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Emne: Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on (compound) event

Hi Erik,
Jenny has some good answers for you. I, too, am not sure what you mean
exactly by your last sentence, a field length being too short. In
sentence override, you can add [Notes] to the end of the definition,
and add more detail in the Notes.

I consider the first trip to be the immigration, and any return trips
to be travel (so use Travel event). But I suppose it might depend on
the person. To be honest, I even consider some people who settled her
for a few years before returning to their native country permanently
as having immigrated, because I believe that was their intent until
life threw them a curveball and they had to go home.

In your list below, first I would do residence event. I think I
redefined my residence event so that it reads ~description in place in
date~ thus the street and town go together before the date.

In the next seven items, I list them all in the immigration or travel
event. I did not redefine this event. I list the description as
"aboard the S.S. Scythia"; the date as the date of arrival, and the
Place as the port of arrival. But then in notes, I write, "It sailed
from Queenstown on 30 Apr 1897, and she appeared to have traveled
alone with only one dollar. She came to stay with her sister Cath
Cooke of Gloucester St., Boston, but was going to Mrs.
Killelea[[Killides]] at 237 Pearl St. in Cambridge first."

Another example has "aboard the S. S. Germanic with her sister" and
the Notes say, "The ship sailed from Liverpool, England. Bridget, age
17, was a servant, and carried one bag. Mary A., age 15, was also a
servant, but had two pieces of baggage. They were off to stay in
Ravenna, Ohio."

I hope these ideas help,
Susan Daily

On 2/16/08, Erik Pilgaard Vinther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I need some advice on how to document a person's initial trip from Denmark
> to USA before the permanent immigration using events.
[snip]
> The person's residence in Denmark: 
> The port of departure: 
> Date of departure: 
> Name of the ship: 
> Number of travel agent contract: 
> The port of arrival: 
> Date of arrival: 
> The final destination in the US: 
>
> The person later returned to DK after this trip before the final
immigration
> to USA.
>
> I'm also doubtful if I should register the initial trip as one or two
events
> (departure & arrival). Also I'm in doubt whether the final 'movement' to
US
> should be registered as an emigrations or as an immigration event, or
both.
>
> Thanks
> Erik
>
> PS! I did experiment with the Sentence Overwrite, but I found the filed
> length to short to fit all the relevant details



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SV: [LegacyUG] Advice on (compound) event

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

Hi Jenny,

Thanks for your reply - it was very useful, and basically answered all my
questions. I now understand the proper use of sentence definition, sentence
overwrite and notes. Also your way of choosing between emigration and
immigration events makes sense to me (taking my own location as the point of
view)

Regards
Erik

PS! "... the filed length being too short" should have read "field length",
i.e. number of characters allowed. As I didn't realize I could use variables
in Sentence Overwrite I quickly ran out of space. Sorry for the confusion. 

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Emne: Re: [LegacyUG] Advice on (compound) event

Erik Pilgaard Vinther wrote
>Hi,
>
>I need some advice on how to document a person's initial trip from Denmark
>to USA before the permanent immigration using events.
>
I use the Travel Event to document such visits.  I wrote my own sentence 
definition to read:

‹b›[EventName]‹/b›:  From [Date] [HeShe] travelled [fromPlace] 
[toDesc].  [Notes] [Sources]

and an example of one such Travel Event reads is as follows:

Event:  Travel
Description:  New York, en route to Hamilton Cotton Co, Fort Worth, 
Texas
Date:  18-27 August 1920
Place:  Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Notes:  He travelled Tourist Class aboard the RMS Baltic, for an 
intended stay of 8-10 months.

In a Report the complete sentence reads:

Travel:  From 18-27 August he travelled from Liverpool, Lancashire, 
England to New York, en route to Hamilton Cotton Co, Fort Worth, Texas. 
He travelled Tourist Class aboard the RMS Baltic, for an intended stay 
of 8-10 months.
>
>I'm also doubtful if I should register the initial trip as one or two
events
>(departure & arrival).

I don't have details of that person's return trip, but if I did I would 
make a second Travel Event for that following the same format.

>Also I'm in doubt whether the final 'movement' to US
>should be registered as an emigrations or as an immigration event, or both.

Where I have people who emigrated I have documented it as an Emigration 
Event, rather than an Immigration.  I think that might be because I was 
born and raised in the UK and in my file are relatives to emigrated to 
the USA and Australia.  If I was born and raised in, say, USA, I might 
use Immigration for people who moved there.  I'm not sure!
>
>PS! I did experiment with the Sentence Overwrite, but I found the filed
>length to short to fit all the relevant details
>
I'm not sure what you mean about the filed length being too short, but 
note that I re-wrote the Event Definition for all Travel Events; I 
didn't use the Sentence Override facility.
-- 
Jenny M Benson



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[LegacyUG] Advice on (compound) event

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

Hi,

I need some advice on how to document a person's initial trip from Denmark
to USA before the permanent immigration using events.

For starters I assume the events emigration/immigration is not appropriate
as the person eventually returned to DK, consequently I have to make due
with the event Travel. However, I find it a bit difficult to register all
the single facts, using the available fields in Legacy, in a way that the
resulting sentence becomes meaningful and in fluent natural language (I'd
prefer to avoid creating a custom event). The fact I'd like to document is:

The person's residence in Denmark: 
The port of departure: 
Date of departure: 
Name of the ship: 
Number of travel agent contract: 
The port of arrival: 
Date of arrival: 
The final destination in the US: 

The person later returned to DK after this trip before the final immigration
to USA.

I'm also doubtful if I should register the initial trip as one or two events
(departure & arrival). Also I'm in doubt whether the final 'movement' to US
should be registered as an emigrations or as an immigration event, or both.

Thanks
Erik

PS! I did experiment with the Sentence Overwrite, but I found the filed
length to short to fit all the relevant details




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[LegacyUG] Primary Name and AKA

[Erik Pilgaard Vinther]

I have this one person which was christened 'Anton Marius Sorensen'
(documented in the Church records). His father and well as 5 generations
before him was christened using both a patronymic name plus the family name
Vinther. As an adult Anton emigrated from Denmark to USA, and in the Ellis
Island Passenger lists he listed his name as Anton Marius Winther and that's
what he called him self for the rest of his life in US. All his children in
all the US records I have found were named Winther.

Whether the reason for the missing Vinther at Anton's christening was due to
a clerical error or some other reason I don't know, but there is no doubt
that Anton perceived him self as a Vinther. Therefore I'm inclined to set
his primary name as Anton Marius Winther, and his christening name as an AKA
name.

Any views on this are very welcome.

Erik P. Vinther




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