RE: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
I have said it before, and will say it forever that each person needs to decide this question for themselves. You should decide to always use the current location, OR the places name at the time of the incident. I use the place name at the time, and in the location notes I include the genealogy of the place: Add/Edit Location: Ashfield, Franklin County, Massachusetts, United States Notes: Ashfield was created in 1765. Franklin was created in 1811 from Hampshire. I leave out the '1776 the colonies became the United States' to 'conserve' on ink. :-) Rich in LA CA You can choose to print/not print these notes in reports --- Stacey Connella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello. Legacy newbie here (another refugee of the > FTM2008 bomb after nearly > 15 years with FTM). Before I launch into my query, > allow me to extend my > enthusiastic thanks to the FTM folks for making me > realize that I was using > FTM because I'd always used FTM, which is totally > out of character for me. > It got me to start researching alternative > platforms, it looks like it will > be probably Legacy for me (although I've not quite > finished evaluating). > > ;-) > > > > ANYWAY. I've been following the LUG for a few days, > and so far love your > discussions! My query is somewhat off-topic, but > definitely related. > > > > How do others handle places that have changed since > the referenced > timeframe? That is to say, Anytown is currently in > New County, but when the > ancestor lived there, it was in Old County. Or, the > ancestor's residence was > in Old Town, which is present-day New Town. I always > make reference to both, > but which do you use as the primary? Do you use > alternates to explain, > discuss it in notes, or do you put a parenthetical > comment directly in the > place field? Just looking for ways to make my > information consistent and > formatted in the most widely accepted way. > > > > Also, the Baltimore discussion is of particular > interest to me, as it's a > place with which I have to deal. If you have an > event that is said to have > taken place in "Baltimore, Maryland" but have not > yet found documentation to > indicate whether it was Baltimore the independent > city or Baltimore the > county, it is technically improper to default to > Baltimore, Maryland, USA, > as this says the event was in the county when it may > not have been. (In > virtually ever other situation, it's not an issue. > For instance, if I have a > place only given as Los Angeles, California, it > doesn't matter whether the > reference is to LA the city or LA the county, as the > city is IN the county.) > What do you prefer to do? > > > > Sorry to muddy the thread. And thanks for all the > great insights so far! > > > > Stacey in Orange County, California > > > > > > _ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Chuck > Arbogast > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 6:29 PM > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in > independent cities in location > field > > > > Hello, > > I live in Virginia and we have several independent > cites. For people who > aren't aware of this situation, it is where a city > is completely inside a > particular county but isn't considered a part of the > county. For example, > Harrisonburg, Virginia is an independent city that > is completly surrounded > by Rockingham county. My issue is this, when using > the Geo Location > database in Legacy v.6, it puts the location down as > follows: Harrisonburg, > Harrisonburg (city), Virginia, USA. If I run the > USA County Verification > tool in Legacy it tells me this is an error, that > "there was never a county > by the name of Harrisonburg (city) in the state of > Virginia", which is > correct. My question to this group is, how should > this be entered into the > location field? Which would be correct: > Harrisonburg, Harrisonburg (city), > Virginia, USA or Harrisonburg, , Virginia, USA or > something else? > > > > Thanks for your help, > > Chuck Arbogast > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
I also struggle with the issue of old location/present location. My reason for wanting the present location is to be able to find it on a current-day map. I also want the old location as it is important historically. Currently I have, for example, the very inelegant location: Gross Teschendorf, West Prussia (Cieszymowo Wielkie, Poland) I really like your idea of alternate place names with a place to put dates. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heather Stovold Sent: Saturday, 22 September 2007 9:27 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field I personally always use the name of the place as it was at the time of the event But I have been thinking (at least for the historic place names) of suggesting a feature for Legacy v8 without all the thoughts I have on it but in summary - for each place you have, just having a place where you can give other names that place has been called with the corresponding dates. This would be information you would personally enter in. Then when you enter a place, it could check with the year of the event, and put in the correct version (asking first)It would require a change to the database structure though Heather On 9/21/07, Stacey Connella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > How do others handle places that have changed since the referenced timeframe? That is to say, Anytown is currently in New County, but when the ancestor lived there, it was in Old County. Or, the ancestor's residence was in Old Town, which is present-day New Town. I always make reference to both, but which do you use as the primary? Do you use alternates to explain, discuss it in notes, or do you put a parenthetical comment directly in the place field? Just looking for ways to make my information consistent and formatted in the most widely accepted way. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
I want to thank everyone who contributed to this discussion. I think I have found other sources for my questions. I think , for now, I will leave the (city) in the county location but I may change it later. Thanks again, Chuck Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
I personally always use the name of the place as it was at the time of the event So (using a Canadian example, as that is where I research) for Etobicoke, York, Ontario, Canada.. before 1841 I name itEtobicoke, York, Upper Canada, British North America bet 1841 and 1867 it is Etobicoke, York, Canada West, British North America and after 1867 it is Etobicoke, York, Ontario, Canada. Also for Medicine Hat,, Alberta, Canada if the date is before 1905 I would put Medicine Hat,, Northwest Territories, Canada. if I went back far enough, it would eventually be in Rupert's Land, British North America etc. btw - although I haven't gone through it - I intend to have the names of any foreign places in the proper language for the country at the time. Although I can't give an exact example, I know that many cities in Germany have a name that is different in Germany than it is in English including the name of the country itself!(doesn't affect me too much yet, but would affect my step-daughter a lot!) But I have been thinking (at least for the historic place names) of suggesting a feature for Legacy v8 without all the thoughts I have on it but in summary - for each place you have, just having a place where you can give other names that place has been called with the corresponding dates. This would be information you would personally enter in. Then when you enter a place, it could check with the year of the event, and put in the correct version (asking first)It would require a change to the database structure though I've never been sure what to do on the instances where it is unclear if a place name given is a town, city, county, or whatever (when there is more than one place with the same name) - I fortunately haven't run into it too much yet... although I know that there is a lot of same-named places in Ontario... (a town having the same name as a township - but they are MILES apart.) I would be inclined to just put the largest named place I was sure of, and the other info in notes until I was able to find out for sure Hope this helps! Heather On 9/21/07, Stacey Connella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > How do others handle places that have changed since the referenced timeframe? > That is to say, Anytown is currently in New County, but when the ancestor > lived there, it was in Old County. Or, the ancestor's residence was in Old > Town, which is present-day New Town. I always make reference to both, but > which do you use as the primary? Do you use alternates to explain, discuss it > in notes, or do you put a parenthetical comment directly in the place field? > Just looking for ways to make my information consistent and formatted in the > most widely accepted way. > > > > Also, the Baltimore discussion is of particular interest to me, as it's a > place with which I have to deal. If you have an event that is said to have > taken place in "Baltimore, Maryland" but have not yet found documentation to > indicate whether it was Baltimore the independent city or Baltimore the > county, it is technically improper to default to Baltimore, Maryland, USA, as > this says the event was in the county when it may not have been. (In > virtually ever other situation, it's not an issue. For instance, if I have a > place only given as Los Angeles, California, it doesn't matter whether the > reference is to LA the city or LA the county, as the city is IN the county.) > What do you prefer to do? > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
The USGS Geographic Names Information System also shows Ramona as a populated place in Sacramento County. Kay - Original Message - From: Tom Montgomery To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 10:22 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field Interesting that the screenshot posted to the web site of Cities Galore shows the community of Ramona in Sacramento County. To my knowledge the only Ramona in CA is in San Diego County. Not a good choice for advertising a product... TomM -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Carneal USA Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 8:08 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field Well, not to put down Legacy's GEO, keep in mind there are two other sources we can use. Unfortunately, we have to buy them. They are: U.S. Cities Galore http://www.uscitiesgalore.com/ and The Handybook for Genealogists http://www.everton.com/shopper/productview.php?SKU=8021&Category=Books I can look up locations in US Cities Galore by state and county, and get a list of towns, or, I can look up by state and town, and get a list of counties. I just love it. While I could do without it, I don't want to! The Handybook stays on my desk! I use it all the time. It has the following information. 1.. Legal records, where to send for them; recorders office, county clerk, etc. You don't send to just the clerk of a given county/state for records; they all have specific offices. 2.. Where to write for a Census 3.. Phone numbers 4.. When created from another county, or whether it was the Original County 5.. Maps - Border Counties of other states 6.. Migration Trails The bad thing about it is it is expensive! Robert aseddon.com wrote: Strange, my wife was born in "San Fernando, Los Angeles, California, USA" and I just clicked on the little blue globe and it verified the entry as correct. Version 6.0.0.155 Deluxe Art Seddon - Original Message - From: Toni Allen To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com ; aseddon.com Cc: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field I tripped over another similar city, county ... I looked up Los Angeles, Calif in the Geo Location file and it said "Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, USA" But, when I ran the US County verification program it listed all the Los Angeles address with a message "Never a county by the name of Los Angeles in the state of California" Since I lived in Torrance, California for 20 plus years and knew there was a Los Angeles County, just out of curiosity I checked the AniMap program, and they show Los Angeles county... Guess you pays your money and takes your choice! Toni in Michigan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date: 9/21/2007 2:02 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date: 9/21/2007 2:02 PM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
That surprised me. I don't know why Frustration Solution is using that example, but perhaps they forgot to change examples when the new product came out. I tried my copy of Cities Galore, selected California for the state, then selected Ramona for the town. San Diego County correctly came up. I would send a screen shot, except we are not supposed to send attachments or screen shots to this list. HOWEVER, according to this website: http://www.placenames.com/us/p1659464/ In the same vein, U.S. Cities Galore does indeed show a Ramona, Sacramento County, California. So I guess both are valid locations. Robert Tom Montgomery wrote: Interesting that the screenshot posted to the web site of Cities Galore shows the community of Ramona in Sacramento County. To my knowledge the only Ramona in CA is in San Diego County. Not a good choice for advertising a product... TomM *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Robert Carneal USA *Sent:* Friday, September 21, 2007 8:08 AM *To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field Well, not to put down Legacy's GEO, keep in mind there are two other sources we can use. Unfortunately, we have to buy them. They are: U.S. Cities Galore http://www.uscitiesgalore.com/ and The Handybook for Genealogists http://www.everton.com/shopper/productview.php?SKU=8021&Category=Books <http://www.everton.com/shopper/productview.php?SKU=8021&Category=Books> I can look up locations in US Cities Galore by state and county, and get a list of towns, or, I can look up by state and town, and get a list of counties. I just love it. While I could do without it, I don't want to! The Handybook stays on my desk! I use it all the time. It has the following information. 1. Legal records, where to send for them; recorders office, county clerk, etc. You don't send to just the clerk of a given county/state for records; they all have specific offices. 2. Where to write for a Census 3. Phone numbers 4. When created from another county, or whether it was the Original County 5. Maps - Border Counties of other states 6. Migration Trails The bad thing about it is it is expensive! Robert aseddon.com wrote: Strange, my wife was born in "San Fernando, Los Angeles, California, USA" and I just clicked on the little blue globe and it verified the entry as correct. Version 6.0.0.155 Deluxe Art Seddon - Original Message - *From:* Toni Allen <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> ; aseddon.com <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *Cc:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> *Sent:* Thursday, September 20, 2007 4:08 PM *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field I tripped over another similar city, county ... I looked up Los Angeles, Calif in the Geo Location file and it said "Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, USA" But, when I ran the US County verification program it listed all the Los Angeles address with a message "Never a county by the name of Los Angeles in the state of California" Since I lived in Torrance, California for 20 plus years and knew there was a Los Angeles County, just out of curiosity I checked the AniMap program, and they show Los Angeles county... Guess you pays your money and takes your choice! Toni in Michigan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date: 9/21/2007 2:02 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date: 9/21/2007 2:02 PM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamily
Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
On 9/21/07, Tom Montgomery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting that the screenshot posted to the web site of Cities Galore > shows the community of Ramona in Sacramento County. To my knowledge the only > Ramona in CA is in San Diego County. Not a good choice for advertising a > product... > TomM There is also a Ramona in Sacramento County. Drew Smith Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
Hello. Legacy newbie here (another refugee of the FTM2008 bomb after nearly 15 years with FTM). Before I launch into my query, allow me to extend my enthusiastic thanks to the FTM folks for making me realize that I was using FTM because I'd always used FTM, which is totally out of character for me. It got me to start researching alternative platforms, it looks like it will be probably Legacy for me (although I've not quite finished evaluating). ;-) ANYWAY. I've been following the LUG for a few days, and so far love your discussions! My query is somewhat off-topic, but definitely related. How do others handle places that have changed since the referenced timeframe? That is to say, Anytown is currently in New County, but when the ancestor lived there, it was in Old County. Or, the ancestor's residence was in Old Town, which is present-day New Town. I always make reference to both, but which do you use as the primary? Do you use alternates to explain, discuss it in notes, or do you put a parenthetical comment directly in the place field? Just looking for ways to make my information consistent and formatted in the most widely accepted way. Also, the Baltimore discussion is of particular interest to me, as it's a place with which I have to deal. If you have an event that is said to have taken place in "Baltimore, Maryland" but have not yet found documentation to indicate whether it was Baltimore the independent city or Baltimore the county, it is technically improper to default to Baltimore, Maryland, USA, as this says the event was in the county when it may not have been. (In virtually ever other situation, it's not an issue. For instance, if I have a place only given as Los Angeles, California, it doesn't matter whether the reference is to LA the city or LA the county, as the city is IN the county.) What do you prefer to do? Sorry to muddy the thread. And thanks for all the great insights so far! Stacey in Orange County, California _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Arbogast Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 6:29 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field Hello, I live in Virginia and we have several independent cites. For people who aren't aware of this situation, it is where a city is completely inside a particular county but isn't considered a part of the county. For example, Harrisonburg, Virginia is an independent city that is completly surrounded by Rockingham county. My issue is this, when using the Geo Location database in Legacy v.6, it puts the location down as follows: Harrisonburg, Harrisonburg (city), Virginia, USA. If I run the USA County Verification tool in Legacy it tells me this is an error, that "there was never a county by the name of Harrisonburg (city) in the state of Virginia", which is correct. My question to this group is, how should this be entered into the location field? Which would be correct: Harrisonburg, Harrisonburg (city), Virginia, USA or Harrisonburg, , Virginia, USA or something else? Thanks for your help, Chuck Arbogast Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
There is a free town County identfier at rootsweb which gives the county http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/townco.cgi Evan Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:08:24 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field Well, not to put down Legacy's GEO, keep in mind there are two other sources we can use. Unfortunately, we have to buy them. They are:U.S. Cities Galorehttp://www.uscitiesgalore.com/andThe Handybook for Genealogists http://www.everton.com/shopper/productview.php?SKU=8021&Category=BooksI can look up locations in US Cities Galore by state and county, and get a list of towns, or, I can look up by state and town, and get a list of counties. I just love it. While I could do without it, I don't want to!The Handybook stays on my desk! I use it all the time. It has the following information. Legal records, where to send for them; recorders office, county clerk, etc. You don't send to just the clerk of a given county/state for records; they all have specific offices. Where to write for a Census Phone numbers When created from another county, or whether it was the Original County Maps - Border Counties of other states Migration Trails The bad thing about it is it is expensive!Robertaseddon.com wrote: Strange, my wife was born in "San Fernando, Los Angeles, California, USA" and I just clicked on the little blue globe and it verified the entry as correct. Version 6.0.0.155 Deluxe Art Seddon - Original Message - From: Toni Allen To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com ; aseddon.com Cc: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field I tripped over another similar city, county ...I looked up Los Angeles, Calif in the Geo Location fileand it said "Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, USA"But, when I ran the US County verification program itlisted all the Los Angeles address with a message"Never a county by the name of Los Angeles in the stateof California"Since I lived in Torrance, California for 20 plus years andknew there was a Los Angeles County, just out of curiosityI checked the AniMap program, and they show Los Angelescounty...Guess you pays your money and takes your choice!Toni in Michigan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspTo unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspTo unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp _ Gear up for Halo® 3 with free downloads and an exclusive offer. It’s our way of saying thanks for using Windows Live™. http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_WLHMTxt_2 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
Interesting that the screenshot posted to the web site of Cities Galore shows the community of Ramona in Sacramento County. To my knowledge the only Ramona in CA is in San Diego County. Not a good choice for advertising a product... TomM _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Carneal USA Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 8:08 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field Well, not to put down Legacy's GEO, keep in mind there are two other sources we can use. Unfortunately, we have to buy them. They are: U.S. Cities Galore HYPERLINK "http://www.uscitiesgalore.com/"http://www.uscitiesgalore.com/ and The Handybook for Genealogists HYPERLINK "http://www.everton.com/shopper/productview.php?SKU=8021&Category=Books"http ://www.everton.com/shopper/productview.php?SKU=8021&Category=Books I can look up locations in US Cities Galore by state and county, and get a list of towns, or, I can look up by state and town, and get a list of counties. I just love it. While I could do without it, I don't want to! The Handybook stays on my desk! I use it all the time. It has the following information. 1. Legal records, where to send for them; recorders office, county clerk, etc. You don't send to just the clerk of a given county/state for records; they all have specific offices. 2. Where to write for a Census 3. Phone numbers 4. When created from another county, or whether it was the Original County 5. Maps - Border Counties of other states 6. Migration Trails The bad thing about it is it is expensive! Robert aseddon.com wrote: Strange, my wife was born in "San Fernando, Los Angeles, California, USA" and I just clicked on the little blue globe and it verified the entry as correct. Version 6.0.0.155 Deluxe Art Seddon - Original Message - From: HYPERLINK "mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"Toni Allen To: HYPERLINK "mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED] e.com ; HYPERLINK "mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"aseddon.com Cc: HYPERLINK "mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED] e.com Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field I tripped over another similar city, county ... I looked up Los Angeles, Calif in the Geo Location file and it said "Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, USA" But, when I ran the US County verification program it listed all the Los Angeles address with a message "Never a county by the name of Los Angeles in the state of California" Since I lived in Torrance, California for 20 plus years and knew there was a Los Angeles County, just out of curiosity I checked the AniMap program, and they show Los Angeles county... Guess you pays your money and takes your choice! Toni in Michigan Legacy User Group guidelines: HYPERLINK "http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp"http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.c om/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: HYPERLINK "http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/"http://ww w.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: HYPERLINK "http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp"http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/He lp.asp To unsubscribe: HYPERLINK "http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp"http://www.LegacyFamilyTree .com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: HYPERLINK "http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp"http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.c om/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: HYPERLINK "http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/"http://ww w.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: HYPERLINK "http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp"http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/He lp.asp To unsubscribe: HYPERLINK "http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp"http://www.LegacyFamilyTree .com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date: 9/21/2007 2:02 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date: 9/21/2007 2:02 PM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
Chuck, The city of Harrisonburg was created in 1916. Between 1780 and 1916, it was a town in Rockingham County. So, if an event occurred before 1916, I would enter Harrisonburg, Rockingham County, Virginia, USA and after 1916 I would enter Harrisonburg (city), Virginia, USA.. If I know the town, I do make every effort to find out what county that town existed in at the time. I stopped using those silly placeholders [extra commas] several years ago, and have never had a problem. If all I know is that an event occurred in Virginia I use Virginia, USA [only if it was AFTER July 5th, 1776] otherwise I use Virginia, Colonial America. I'm not claiming to be an authority, but this WORKS FOR ME! As long as you're consistent in naming your locations, AND it works for you, go for it! That's the great thing about Legacy. -- Jim Williams Richmond (city), Virginia, USA On 9/19/07, Chuck Arbogast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > I live in Virginia and we have several independent cites. For people who Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
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Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
Well, not to put down Legacy's GEO, keep in mind there are two other sources we can use. Unfortunately, we have to buy them. They are: U.S. Cities Galore http://www.uscitiesgalore.com/ and The Handybook for Genealogists http://www.everton.com/shopper/productview.php?SKU=8021&Category=Books <http://www.everton.com/shopper/productview.php?SKU=8021&Category=Books> I can look up locations in US Cities Galore by state and county, and get a list of towns, or, I can look up by state and town, and get a list of counties. I just love it. While I could do without it, I don't want to! The Handybook stays on my desk! I use it all the time. It has the following information. 1. Legal records, where to send for them; recorders office, county clerk, etc. You don't send to just the clerk of a given county/state for records; they all have specific offices. 2. Where to write for a Census 3. Phone numbers 4. When created from another county, or whether it was the Original County 5. Maps - Border Counties of other states 6. Migration Trails The bad thing about it is it is expensive! Robert aseddon.com wrote: Strange, my wife was born in "San Fernando, Los Angeles, California, USA" and I just clicked on the little blue globe and it verified the entry as correct. Version 6.0.0.155 Deluxe Art Seddon - Original Message - *From:* Toni Allen <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> ; aseddon.com <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *Cc:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com <mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> *Sent:* Thursday, September 20, 2007 4:08 PM *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field I tripped over another similar city, county ... I looked up Los Angeles, Calif in the Geo Location file and it said "Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, USA" But, when I ran the US County verification program it listed all the Los Angeles address with a message "Never a county by the name of Los Angeles in the state of California" Since I lived in Torrance, California for 20 plus years and knew there was a Los Angeles County, just out of curiosity I checked the AniMap program, and they show Los Angeles county... Guess you pays your money and takes your choice! Toni in Michigan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
What attachment? Elaine > You have been on this list long enough to know > that you are not supposed to send > attachments. This holds true even if the folks > from Legacy are not around. To > me, this type of violation warrants being > removed from this list permanently!!! Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
I have installed Geo and it is listing my grandson's birthplace correctly: Alexandria, Alexandria (city), Virginia, USA Elaine > Strange, my wife was born in "San Fernando, Los > Angeles, California, USA" and I just clicked on the little blue > globe and it verified the entry as correct. > Version 6.0.0.155 Deluxe > Art Seddon > - Original Message - > From: Toni Allen > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com ; aseddon.com > Cc: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 4:08 PM > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in > independent cities in location field > I tripped over another similar city, county ... > I looked up Los Angeles, Calif in the Geo Location file > and it said "Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, USA" Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
Darlene, Good Thought! Thanks for mentioning it ... But my spelling was changed when I verified the location in the Geo files, which is spelled correctly ... Art Seddon, I have other locations with Los Angeles as the county ... The Geo file (little blue globe) confirms ALL locations with Los Angeles county as correct ... The US County verification program ONLY picks on Los Angeles County when it is with Los Angeles city Just a small bug, I'll bring it to Sherry's attention when she gets back from the cruise Toni - Original Message - From: "Darlene & Don Hicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 3:44 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field Hi Toni, I have come across this, "Never a County", and I knew it was correct, but I checked the spelling and I had one letter wrong. Double check your spelling. Los Angeles does show up as a county for me. I hope this helps! :-D Darlene [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Toni Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I tripped over another similar city, county ... I looked up Los Angeles, Calif in the Geo Location file and it said "Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, USA" But, when I ran the US County verification program it listed all the Los Angeles address with a message "Never a county by the name of Los Angeles in the state of California" Since I lived in Torrance, California for 20 plus years and knew there was a Los Angeles County, just out of curiosity I checked the AniMap program, and they show Los Angeles county... Guess you pays your money and takes your choice! Toni in Michigan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
Hi Toni, I have come across this, "Never a County", and I knew it was correct, but I checked the spelling and I had one letter wrong. Double check your spelling. Los Angeles does show up as a county for me. I hope this helps! :-D Darlene [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Toni Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I tripped over another similar city, county ... > I looked up Los Angeles, Calif in the Geo Location > file > and it said "Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, > USA" > But, when I ran the US County verification program > it > listed all the Los Angeles address with a message > "Never a county by the name of Los Angeles in the > state > of California" > Since I lived in Torrance, California for 20 plus > years and > knew there was a Los Angeles County, just out of > curiosity > I checked the AniMap program, and they show Los > Angeles > county... > Guess you pays your money and takes your choice! > Toni in Michigan > > > Elaine wrote: > > > I decided to look it up: > > > > "Main article: List of cities in Virginia > > > > The organization of cities is the most noteworthy > > aspect of Virginia local government relative to > > the other 49 states. Of the 42 independent cities > > in the United States[2], 39 are in Virginia. The > > three that are not in Virginia are Baltimore, > > Maryland, St. Louis, Missouri and Carson City, > > Nevada." > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_subdivisions_of_Virginia > > > > Elaine > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
Art, You have been on this list long enough to know that you are not supposed to send attachments. This holds true even if the folks from Legacy are not around. To me, this type of violation warrants being removed from this list permanently!!! !! Ron Bernier > Los Angeles county is there. > > > - Original Message - > From: Cathy > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 5:28 PM > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in > location field > > Please note that the County Verifier can be updated. Sherry keeps a > list of errors and it is updated periodically. Let her know the > problems when she returns from the cruise. > > The GeoDatabase on the other hand comes as is until they find > something else better. The task of entering all locations worldwide > is far beyond Legacy resources. > > Not being in the US, I don't share this problem. I just enter > locations consistently and ignore the US/LDS norm of 4 fields > locked into town, county, state, country. It simply just doesn't > apply worldwide. > > Chuck, there generally isn't "correct" for every location, just > consistency and a majority view. Why you'd want internal empty > commas which suggests you just haven't looked up the missing field, > is a mystery to me. That's why I don't use them. > > Cathy > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
Strange, my wife was born in "San Fernando, Los Angeles, California, USA" and I just clicked on the little blue globe and it verified the entry as correct. Version 6.0.0.155 Deluxe Art Seddon - Original Message - From: Toni Allen To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com ; aseddon.com Cc: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field I tripped over another similar city, county ... I looked up Los Angeles, Calif in the Geo Location file and it said "Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, USA" But, when I ran the US County verification program it listed all the Los Angeles address with a message "Never a county by the name of Los Angeles in the state of California" Since I lived in Torrance, California for 20 plus years and knew there was a Los Angeles County, just out of curiosity I checked the AniMap program, and they show Los Angeles county... Guess you pays your money and takes your choice! Toni in Michigan Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
Please note that the County Verifier can be updated. Sherry keeps a list of errors and it is updated periodically. Let her know the problems when she returns from the cruise. The GeoDatabase on the other hand comes as is until they find something else better. The task of entering all locations worldwide is far beyond Legacy resources. Not being in the US, I don't share this problem. I just enter locations consistently and ignore the US/LDS norm of 4 fields locked into town, county, state, country. It simply just doesn't apply worldwide. Chuck, there generally isn't "correct" for every location, just consistency and a majority view. Why you'd want internal empty commas which suggests you just haven't looked up the missing field, is a mystery to me. That's why I don't use them. Cathy At 08:13 AM 21/09/2007, you wrote: Thanks to all that has posted replies. I think that I will leave it like Legacy has it but I think it is odd that they put the (city) were the county should be. I would think that the correct way of entering it, as long as you use comma's as placeholders, would be Harrisonburg, , Virginia, USA not Harrisonburg, Harrisonburg (city), Virginia, USA. I would think that would not give the county verifier an error and be correct. I'm not sure how I will do it but I wanted to clean up my locations and make them correct. Thanks again, Chuck Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
Thanks to all that has posted replies. I think that I will leave it like Legacy has it but I think it is odd that they put the (city) were the county should be. I would think that the correct way of entering it, as long as you use comma's as placeholders, would be Harrisonburg, , Virginia, USA not Harrisonburg, Harrisonburg (city), Virginia, USA. I would think that would not give the county verifier an error and be correct. I'm not sure how I will do it but I wanted to clean up my locations and make them correct. Thanks again, Chuck On 9/20/07, Toni Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I tripped over another similar city, county ... > I looked up Los Angeles, Calif in the Geo Location file > and it said "Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, USA" > But, when I ran the US County verification program it > listed all the Los Angeles address with a message > "Never a county by the name of Los Angeles in the state > of California" > Since I lived in Torrance, California for 20 plus years and > knew there was a Los Angeles County, just out of curiosity > I checked the AniMap program, and they show Los Angeles > county... > Guess you pays your money and takes your choice! > Toni in Michigan > > > Elaine wrote: > > > I decided to look it up: > > > > "Main article: List of cities in Virginia > > > > The organization of cities is the most noteworthy > > aspect of Virginia local government relative to > > the other 49 states. Of the 42 independent cities > > in the United States[2], 39 are in Virginia. The > > three that are not in Virginia are Baltimore, > > Maryland, St. Louis, Missouri and Carson City, > > Nevada." > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_subdivisions_of_Virginia > > > > Elaine > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
I tripped over another similar city, county ... I looked up Los Angeles, Calif in the Geo Location file and it said "Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California, USA" But, when I ran the US County verification program it listed all the Los Angeles address with a message "Never a county by the name of Los Angeles in the state of California" Since I lived in Torrance, California for 20 plus years and knew there was a Los Angeles County, just out of curiosity I checked the AniMap program, and they show Los Angeles county... Guess you pays your money and takes your choice! Toni in Michigan Elaine wrote: I decided to look it up: "Main article: List of cities in Virginia The organization of cities is the most noteworthy aspect of Virginia local government relative to the other 49 states. Of the 42 independent cities in the United States[2], 39 are in Virginia. The three that are not in Virginia are Baltimore, Maryland, St. Louis, Missouri and Carson City, Nevada." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_subdivisions_of_Virginia Elaine Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
Virginia called it a "free city" when my son was in school. Sticks in my mind there were four "free" cities back when (he's now in his early 50s), the best known was St. Louis. I think Virginia now refers to Alexandria (where I live) as an "independent city." I decided to look it up: "Main article: List of cities in Virginia The organization of cities is the most noteworthy aspect of Virginia local government relative to the other 49 states. Of the 42 independent cities in the United States[2], 39 are in Virginia. The three that are not in Virginia are Baltimore, Maryland, St. Louis, Missouri and Carson City, Nevada." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_subdivisions_of_Virginia Elaine Hello aseddon.com On Thursday, September 20, 2007, you wrote > I believe the technical term is that St. Louis > City is 'co-extensive' with St. Louis County. The same situation > occurs in San Francisco, California. > San Francisco City is 'co-extensive' with San Francisco County. > Art Seddon > - Original Message - > From: Quest > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 11:33 PM > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in > independent cities in location field > St. Louis is in St. Louis County. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
If I were you, I'd just click "Okay" when Legacy says there was no such county. It's like saying, "Yeah, I know that. So what?" It would be nice if the county verifier were corrected to recognize "Harrisonburg (city)" as a valid entry in the county field, but that's up to the programmers, not to you. On 9/20/07, Chuck Arbogast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Quest and Art, > I'm not sure if the Virginia independent cities are the same as St. > Louis but I do know the Geo Locations database in Legacy and they have St. > Louis, St. Louis (City), Missouri, USA. Not sure if that is correct but > that is how the program displays it. The only issue I have with doing it > this way is that the county verifier that is built in say's that there was > no Harrsionburg (city) county in Virginia. I know that there isn't a county > named that but that is what the Geo Locations database put in for the > county. > > Thanks for your comments, > Chuck > > > On 9/20/07, aseddon.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I believe the technical term is that St. Louis City is 'co-extensive' > > with St. Louis County. The same situation occurs in San Francisco, > > California. > > San Francisco City is 'co-extensive' with San Francisco County. > > > > Art Seddon > > > > - Original Message - > > *From:* Quest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > *To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 19, 2007 11:33 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in > > location field > > > > St. Louis is in St. Louis County. > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp<http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp> > > Archived messages: > >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online technical support: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp<http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp> > > To unsubscribe: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp<http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp> > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
Quest and Art, I'm not sure if the Virginia independent cities are the same as St. Louis but I do know the Geo Locations database in Legacy and they have St. Louis, St. Louis (City), Missouri, USA. Not sure if that is correct but that is how the program displays it. The only issue I have with doing it this way is that the county verifier that is built in say's that there was no Harrsionburg (city) county in Virginia. I know that there isn't a county named that but that is what the Geo Locations database put in for the county. Thanks for your comments, Chuck On 9/20/07, aseddon.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I believe the technical term is that St. Louis City is 'co-extensive' > with St. Louis County. The same situation occurs in San Francisco, > California. > San Francisco City is 'co-extensive' with San Francisco County. > > Art Seddon > > - Original Message - > *From:* Quest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 19, 2007 11:33 PM > *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in > location field > > St. Louis is in St. Louis County. > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp<http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp> > Archived messages: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp<http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp> > To unsubscribe: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp<http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp> > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
Susan, Thanks for your clarification. I checked the Geo Locations database in Legacy and they have St. Louis, St. Louis (City), Missouri, USA. I wasn't sure if I should use the () or not. Your example didn't and it does. Still not sure what to do exactly. Ihave the county verifer turned on because my ancestors lived in Virginia and West Virginia. Since Virginia was split into West Virginia, the county verifier helps me determine if locations are correct for that time frame. Thanks for your help, Chuck On 9/19/07, Susan Daily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You would follow your examples, but no parenthesis around the word > city, I think. > So in my example, the four placeholders are: St. Louis, St. Louis > City, Missouri, USA. (It gets repeated twice.) > > I have county verifier turned off, so can't verify it works. I hope it > does!! > > Susan > > On 9/19/07, Chuck Arbogast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks Susan, > > So, would there be no placeholder for the city name if I use the > > Independent city in the county location? Just wondering what the most > > widely accepted format is. > > > > Thanks again, > > Chuck > > > > > > On 9/19/07, Susan Daily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Chuck, > > > > > > I had heard from Sherry regarding St. Louis, and she said the county > > > was entered as follows: St. Louis City, Missouri - so maybe use that > > > pattern for your independent cities. > > > > > > Susan > > > > > > On 9/19/07, Chuck Arbogast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I live in Virginia and we have several independent cites. For > people > > who > > > > aren't aware of this situation, it is where a city is completely > inside > > a > > > > particular county but isn't considered a part of the county. For > > example, > > > > Harrisonburg, Virginia is an independent city that is completly > > surrounded > > > > by Rockingham county. My issue is this, when using the Geo Location > > > > database in Legacy v.6, it puts the location down as follows: > > Harrisonburg, > > > > Harrisonburg (city), Virginia, USA. If I run the USA County > > Verification > > > > tool in Legacy it tells me this is an error, that "there was never a > > county > > > > by the name of Harrisonburg (city) in the state of Virginia", which > is > > > > correct. My question to this group is, how should this be entered > into > > the > > > > location field? Which would be correct: Harrisonburg, Harrisonburg > > (city), > > > > Virginia, USA or Harrisonburg, , Virginia, USA or something else? > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help, > > > > Chuck Arbogast > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
I believe the technical term is that St. Louis City is 'co-extensive' with St. Louis County. The same situation occurs in San Francisco, California. San Francisco City is 'co-extensive' with San Francisco County. Art Seddon - Original Message - From: Quest To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field St. Louis is in St. Louis County. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
St. Louis is in St. Louis County. - Original Message - From: "Susan Daily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field Chuck, I had heard from Sherry regarding St. Louis, and she said the county was entered as follows: St. Louis City, Missouri - so maybe use that pattern for your independent cities. Susan On 9/19/07, Chuck Arbogast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, I live in Virginia and we have several independent cites. For people who aren't aware of this situation, it is where a city is completely inside a particular county but isn't considered a part of the county. For example, Harrisonburg, Virginia is an independent city that is completly surrounded by Rockingham county. My issue is this, when using the Geo Location database in Legacy v.6, it puts the location down as follows: Harrisonburg, Harrisonburg (city), Virginia, USA. If I run the USA County Verification tool in Legacy it tells me this is an error, that "there was never a county by the name of Harrisonburg (city) in the state of Virginia", which is correct. My question to this group is, how should this be entered into the location field? Which would be correct: Harrisonburg, Harrisonburg (city), Virginia, USA or Harrisonburg, , Virginia, USA or something else? Thanks for your help, Chuck Arbogast Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
You would follow your examples, but no parenthesis around the word city, I think. So in my example, the four placeholders are: St. Louis, St. Louis City, Missouri, USA. (It gets repeated twice.) I have county verifier turned off, so can't verify it works. I hope it does!! Susan On 9/19/07, Chuck Arbogast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Susan, > So, would there be no placeholder for the city name if I use the > Independent city in the county location? Just wondering what the most > widely accepted format is. > > Thanks again, > Chuck > > > On 9/19/07, Susan Daily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Chuck, > > > > I had heard from Sherry regarding St. Louis, and she said the county > > was entered as follows: St. Louis City, Missouri - so maybe use that > > pattern for your independent cities. > > > > Susan > > > > On 9/19/07, Chuck Arbogast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello, > > > I live in Virginia and we have several independent cites. For people > who > > > aren't aware of this situation, it is where a city is completely inside > a > > > particular county but isn't considered a part of the county. For > example, > > > Harrisonburg, Virginia is an independent city that is completly > surrounded > > > by Rockingham county. My issue is this, when using the Geo Location > > > database in Legacy v.6, it puts the location down as follows: > Harrisonburg, > > > Harrisonburg (city), Virginia, USA. If I run the USA County > Verification > > > tool in Legacy it tells me this is an error, that "there was never a > county > > > by the name of Harrisonburg (city) in the state of Virginia", which is > > > correct. My question to this group is, how should this be entered into > the > > > location field? Which would be correct: Harrisonburg, Harrisonburg > (city), > > > Virginia, USA or Harrisonburg, , Virginia, USA or something else? > > > > > > Thanks for your help, > > > Chuck Arbogast > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
Thanks Susan, So, would there be no placeholder for the city name if I use the Independent city in the county location? Just wondering what the most widely accepted format is. Thanks again, Chuck On 9/19/07, Susan Daily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Chuck, > > I had heard from Sherry regarding St. Louis, and she said the county > was entered as follows: St. Louis City, Missouri - so maybe use that > pattern for your independent cities. > > Susan > > On 9/19/07, Chuck Arbogast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > I live in Virginia and we have several independent cites. For people > who > > aren't aware of this situation, it is where a city is completely inside > a > > particular county but isn't considered a part of the county. For > example, > > Harrisonburg, Virginia is an independent city that is completly > surrounded > > by Rockingham county. My issue is this, when using the Geo Location > > database in Legacy v.6, it puts the location down as follows: > Harrisonburg, > > Harrisonburg (city), Virginia, USA. If I run the USA County > Verification > > tool in Legacy it tells me this is an error, that "there was never a > county > > by the name of Harrisonburg (city) in the state of Virginia", which is > > correct. My question to this group is, how should this be entered into > the > > location field? Which would be correct: Harrisonburg, Harrisonburg > (city), > > Virginia, USA or Harrisonburg, , Virginia, USA or something else? > > > > Thanks for your help, > > Chuck Arbogast > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
Chuck, I had heard from Sherry regarding St. Louis, and she said the county was entered as follows: St. Louis City, Missouri - so maybe use that pattern for your independent cities. Susan On 9/19/07, Chuck Arbogast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > I live in Virginia and we have several independent cites. For people who > aren't aware of this situation, it is where a city is completely inside a > particular county but isn't considered a part of the county. For example, > Harrisonburg, Virginia is an independent city that is completly surrounded > by Rockingham county. My issue is this, when using the Geo Location > database in Legacy v.6, it puts the location down as follows: Harrisonburg, > Harrisonburg (city), Virginia, USA. If I run the USA County Verification > tool in Legacy it tells me this is an error, that "there was never a county > by the name of Harrisonburg (city) in the state of Virginia", which is > correct. My question to this group is, how should this be entered into the > location field? Which would be correct: Harrisonburg, Harrisonburg (city), > Virginia, USA or Harrisonburg, , Virginia, USA or something else? > > Thanks for your help, > Chuck Arbogast Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Correctly entering in independent cities in location field
Hello, I live in Virginia and we have several independent cites. For people who aren't aware of this situation, it is where a city is completely inside a particular county but isn't considered a part of the county. For example, Harrisonburg, Virginia is an independent city that is completly surrounded by Rockingham county. My issue is this, when using the Geo Location database in Legacy v.6, it puts the location down as follows: Harrisonburg, Harrisonburg (city), Virginia, USA. If I run the USA County Verification tool in Legacy it tells me this is an error, that "there was never a county by the name of Harrisonburg (city) in the state of Virginia", which is correct. My question to this group is, how should this be entered into the location field? Which would be correct: Harrisonburg, Harrisonburg (city), Virginia, USA or Harrisonburg, , Virginia, USA or something else? Thanks for your help, Chuck Arbogast Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
