Re: [LegacyUG] Death Location

[Frank Saragosa]

Bye.

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 1:01 PM,  wrote:

>  This group is the worse for certain people assuming the position of list
> manager. I am tired of it and will now unsubscribe.
> Lloyd
>
>  In a message dated 10/12/2009 11:29:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> fsarag...@gmail.com writes:
>
> One thing for sure:  Ellen is NOT stating facts!  Marilyn is right; Ellen's
> views on cremation have no place on this thread or user list.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Death Location

[William H. Boswell]

Even though I was raised a Catholic, I'm not thrilled with the idea of
cremation either.  After witnessing one in the basement of a funeral home,
the remaining bones were broken up with a sledge hammer and the smaller
pieces were put in with the other remains.  The rest were put somewhere and
probably ended up in the garbage.

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
Behalf Of Kramer
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 2:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Death Location



On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:35 AM, howlanddavi...@aol.com wrote:

> Roxanne and others
>
> In a message dated 10/11/2009 11:12:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
maighe...@yahoo.com
>  writes:
> I had to laugh when I read this; my mom donated her body to the
> University of Rochester.  After a year or so, her cremains were
> returned to us.  She currently resides under my sister's couch.
> I've left the Legacy burial information blank.
>It's interesting to see that others have similar problems.  My
> father-in-law's cremains are on a wall shelf in my wife's studio
> while we try to figure out where to bury or scatter them (WV where
> he was born; OH (where he lived for many years or MO where a
> grandson lives who might visit the grave).  At that point,
> information will be entered into Legacy as to disposition.
>Someone that I met recently waited over a year to bury her
> husband's cremains because she did not like the setting at a nearby
> National Cemetery and they told her to wait a year until another
> section would be started.
>
> Howland Davis

I have heard many people say how they use the burial date to
substantiate the death date.  It will be really hard years from now to
verify things like this.  Maybe these situations will help us to
convince others to deal with cremains more quickly and reverently.

How horrible to think of spending eternity under a sofa or getting
destroyed in the trunk of a car during an accident!  I wonder if some
people get tired of having the cremains around and eventually throw
them in the trash.  I wouldn't be surprised in some cases.  What if
the car were sold with the cremains still there?  I think I'd want to
know what happened with the remains, but certainly they should be
given a respectful proper burial.  This is the reason why the Catholic
Church delayed approval of cremation for so long. Now they say that
cremation may only be done if the person still believes in the
resurrection of the body and provided that a quick and reverent burial
be done.  I never liked cremation and really didn't like it when I
heard that the larger bones don't burn up and are thrown away.  Now
I'm dead set again it.  Pun intended.

Ellen Kramer

Researching and loving Dorman, Kramer, Mirarchi, Procopio, Renninger
and Staudt-Stoudt-Stout families









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Re: [LegacyUG] Death Location

[Lhite31]

This group is the worse for certain people assuming the position of list  
manager. I am tired of it and will now unsubscribe.
Lloyd
 
 
In a message dated 10/12/2009 11:29:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
fsarag...@gmail.com writes:

One  thing for sure:  Ellen is NOT stating facts!  Marilyn is right;  
Ellen's views on cremation have no place on this thread or user  list.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Death Location

[Mike Fry]

Ruth Nerud wrote:
Lighten up, Marilyn. She is stating facts, not her religious views. One 
day, you'll say something that someone else doesn't like. Where is your 
tolerance. This is America.

Ruth


I agree with what you're trying to say, Ruth, but, this is not America. 
It's the Internet and it covers more of the world than just the USA.


In response to what Marilyn said - There are varying degrees of 
tolerance around the world. What is acceptable in the US may not be 
acceptable elsewhere and vice versa. As a result, Marilyn, you must be 
very careful when you start to attack or deride someone's religious beliefs.


--
Best regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Death Location

[Ruth Nerud]

Okey-dokey. I'm sorry if I've caused more hard feelings. I'll keep my mouth 
shut - oh, I mean my fingers quiet.
Ruth
  - Original Message - 
  From: Frank Saragosa 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:27 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Death Location


  One thing for sure:  Ellen is NOT stating facts!  Marilyn is right; Ellen's 
views on cremation have no place on this thread or user list.


  On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Ruth Nerud  wrote:

Lighten up, Marilyn. She is stating facts, not her religious views. One 
day, you'll say something that someone else doesn't like. Where is your 
tolerance. This is America.
Ruth
- Original Message - From: "Marilyn Clark" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:04 AM 

    Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Death Location


Ellen:

Please refrain from hijacking this thread to espouse your religious views. 
Thank you!

Marilyn


--- On Sun, 10/11/09, Kramer  wrote:


  From: Kramer 
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Death Location
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 12:14 PM

  On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:35 AM, howlanddavi...@aol.com
  wrote:

  > Roxanne and others
  >
  > In a message dated 10/11/2009 11:12:48 A.M. Eastern
  Daylight Time, maighe...@yahoo.com
  writes:
  > I had to laugh when I read this; my mom donated her
  body to the University of Rochester. After a year or
  so, her cremains were returned to us. She currently
  resides under my sister's couch. I've left the Legacy
  burial information blank.
  > It's interesting to see that others have
  similar problems. My father-in-law's cremains are on a
  wall shelf in my wife's studio while we try to figure out
  where to bury or scatter them (WV where he was born; OH
  (where he lived for many years or MO where a grandson lives
  who might visit the grave). At that point, information
  will be entered into Legacy as to disposition.
  > Someone that I met recently waited over a
  year to bury her husband's cremains because she did not like
  the setting at a nearby National Cemetery and they told her
  to wait a year until another section would be started.
  >
  > Howland Davis

  I have heard many people say how they use the burial date
  to substantiate the death date. It will be really hard
  years from now to verify things like this. Maybe these
  situations will help us to convince others to deal with
  cremains more quickly and reverently.

  How horrible to think of spending eternity under a sofa or
  getting destroyed in the trunk of a car during an
  accident! I wonder if some people get tired of having
  the cremains around and eventually throw them in the
  trash. I wouldn't be surprised in some cases.
  What if the car were sold with the cremains still
  there? I think I'd want to know what happened with the
  remains, but certainly they should be given a respectful
  proper burial. This is the reason why the Catholic
  Church delayed approval of cremation for so long. Now they
  say that cremation may only be done if the person still
  believes in the resurrection of the body and provided that a
  quick and reverent burial be done. I never liked
  cremation and really didn't like it when I heard that the
  larger bones don't burn up and are thrown away. Now
  I'm dead set again it. Pun intended.

  Ellen Kramer

  Researching and loving Dorman, Kramer, Mirarchi, Procopio,
  Renninger and Staudt-Stoudt-Stout families









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Re: [LegacyUG] Death Location

[Frank Saragosa]

One thing for sure:  Ellen is NOT stating facts!  Marilyn is right; Ellen's
views on cremation have no place on this thread or user list.

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:13 AM, Ruth Nerud wrote:

> Lighten up, Marilyn. She is stating facts, not her religious views. One
> day, you'll say something that someone else doesn't like. Where is your
> tolerance. This is America.
> Ruth
> - Original Message - From: "Marilyn Clark" <
> paddypeppe...@yahoo.com>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:04 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Death Location
>
>
> Ellen:
>
> Please refrain from hijacking this thread to espouse your religious views.
> Thank you!
>
> Marilyn
>
>
> --- On Sun, 10/11/09, Kramer  wrote:
>
> From: Kramer 
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Death Location
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 12:14 PM
>>
>> On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:35 AM, howlanddavi...@aol.com
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Roxanne and others
>> >
>> > In a message dated 10/11/2009 11:12:48 A.M. Eastern
>> Daylight Time, maighe...@yahoo.com
>> writes:
>> > I had to laugh when I read this; my mom donated her
>> body to the University of Rochester. After a year or
>> so, her cremains were returned to us. She currently
>> resides under my sister's couch. I've left the Legacy
>> burial information blank.
>> > It's interesting to see that others have
>> similar problems. My father-in-law's cremains are on a
>> wall shelf in my wife's studio while we try to figure out
>> where to bury or scatter them (WV where he was born; OH
>> (where he lived for many years or MO where a grandson lives
>> who might visit the grave). At that point, information
>> will be entered into Legacy as to disposition.
>> > Someone that I met recently waited over a
>> year to bury her husband's cremains because she did not like
>> the setting at a nearby National Cemetery and they told her
>> to wait a year until another section would be started.
>> >
>> > Howland Davis
>>
>> I have heard many people say how they use the burial date
>> to substantiate the death date. It will be really hard
>> years from now to verify things like this. Maybe these
>> situations will help us to convince others to deal with
>> cremains more quickly and reverently.
>>
>> How horrible to think of spending eternity under a sofa or
>> getting destroyed in the trunk of a car during an
>> accident! I wonder if some people get tired of having
>> the cremains around and eventually throw them in the
>> trash. I wouldn't be surprised in some cases.
>> What if the car were sold with the cremains still
>> there? I think I'd want to know what happened with the
>> remains, but certainly they should be given a respectful
>> proper burial. This is the reason why the Catholic
>> Church delayed approval of cremation for so long. Now they
>> say that cremation may only be done if the person still
>> believes in the resurrection of the body and provided that a
>> quick and reverent burial be done. I never liked
>> cremation and really didn't like it when I heard that the
>> larger bones don't burn up and are thrown away. Now
>> I'm dead set again it. Pun intended.
>>
>> Ellen Kramer
>>
>> Researching and loving Dorman, Kramer, Mirarchi, Procopio,
>> Renninger and Staudt-Stoudt-Stout families
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Death Location

[Ruth Nerud]

Lighten up, Marilyn. She is stating facts, not her religious views. One day, 
you'll say something that someone else doesn't like. Where is your 
tolerance. This is America.

Ruth
- Original Message - 
From: "Marilyn Clark" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Death Location


Ellen:

Please refrain from hijacking this thread to espouse your religious views. 
Thank you!


Marilyn


--- On Sun, 10/11/09, Kramer  wrote:


From: Kramer 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Death Location
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 12:14 PM

On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:35 AM, howlanddavi...@aol.com
wrote:

> Roxanne and others
>
> In a message dated 10/11/2009 11:12:48 A.M. Eastern
Daylight Time, maighe...@yahoo.com
writes:
> I had to laugh when I read this; my mom donated her
body to the University of Rochester. After a year or
so, her cremains were returned to us. She currently
resides under my sister's couch. I've left the Legacy
burial information blank.
> It's interesting to see that others have
similar problems. My father-in-law's cremains are on a
wall shelf in my wife's studio while we try to figure out
where to bury or scatter them (WV where he was born; OH
(where he lived for many years or MO where a grandson lives
who might visit the grave). At that point, information
will be entered into Legacy as to disposition.
> Someone that I met recently waited over a
year to bury her husband's cremains because she did not like
the setting at a nearby National Cemetery and they told her
to wait a year until another section would be started.
>
> Howland Davis

I have heard many people say how they use the burial date
to substantiate the death date. It will be really hard
years from now to verify things like this. Maybe these
situations will help us to convince others to deal with
cremains more quickly and reverently.

How horrible to think of spending eternity under a sofa or
getting destroyed in the trunk of a car during an
accident! I wonder if some people get tired of having
the cremains around and eventually throw them in the
trash. I wouldn't be surprised in some cases.
What if the car were sold with the cremains still
there? I think I'd want to know what happened with the
remains, but certainly they should be given a respectful
proper burial. This is the reason why the Catholic
Church delayed approval of cremation for so long. Now they
say that cremation may only be done if the person still
believes in the resurrection of the body and provided that a
quick and reverent burial be done. I never liked
cremation and really didn't like it when I heard that the
larger bones don't burn up and are thrown away. Now
I'm dead set again it. Pun intended.

Ellen Kramer

Researching and loving Dorman, Kramer, Mirarchi, Procopio,
Renninger and Staudt-Stoudt-Stout families









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Re: [LegacyUG] Death Location

[Marilyn Clark]

Ellen:

Please refrain from hijacking this thread to espouse your religious views. 
Thank you!

Marilyn


--- On Sun, 10/11/09, Kramer  wrote:

> From: Kramer 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Death Location
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 12:14 PM
> 
> On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:35 AM, howlanddavi...@aol.com
> wrote:
> 
> > Roxanne and others
> > 
> > In a message dated 10/11/2009 11:12:48 A.M. Eastern
> Daylight Time, maighe...@yahoo.com
> writes:
> > I had to laugh when I read this; my mom donated her
> body to the University of Rochester.  After a year or
> so, her cremains were returned to us.  She currently
> resides under my sister's couch.  I've left the Legacy
> burial information blank.
> >    It's interesting to see that others have
> similar problems.  My father-in-law's cremains are on a
> wall shelf in my wife's studio while we try to figure out
> where to bury or scatter them (WV where he was born; OH
> (where he lived for many years or MO where a grandson lives
> who might visit the grave).  At that point, information
> will be entered into Legacy as to disposition.
> >    Someone that I met recently waited over a
> year to bury her husband's cremains because she did not like
> the setting at a nearby National Cemetery and they told her
> to wait a year until another section would be started.
> > 
> > Howland Davis
> 
> I have heard many people say how they use the burial date
> to substantiate the death date.  It will be really hard
> years from now to verify things like this.  Maybe these
> situations will help us to convince others to deal with
> cremains more quickly and reverently.
> 
> How horrible to think of spending eternity under a sofa or
> getting destroyed in the trunk of a car during an
> accident!  I wonder if some people get tired of having
> the cremains around and eventually throw them in the
> trash.  I wouldn't be surprised in some cases. 
> What if the car were sold with the cremains still
> there?  I think I'd want to know what happened with the
> remains, but certainly they should be given a respectful
> proper burial.  This is the reason why the Catholic
> Church delayed approval of cremation for so long. Now they
> say that cremation may only be done if the person still
> believes in the resurrection of the body and provided that a
> quick and reverent burial be done.  I never liked
> cremation and really didn't like it when I heard that the
> larger bones don't burn up and are thrown away.  Now
> I'm dead set again it.  Pun intended.
> 
> Ellen Kramer
> 
> Researching and loving Dorman, Kramer, Mirarchi, Procopio,
> Renninger and Staudt-Stoudt-Stout families
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Death Location

[Kramer]

On Oct 11, 2009, at 11:35 AM, howlanddavi...@aol.com wrote:


Roxanne and others

In a message dated 10/11/2009 11:12:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maighe...@yahoo.com 
 writes:
I had to laugh when I read this; my mom donated her body to the  
University of Rochester.  After a year or so, her cremains were  
returned to us.  She currently resides under my sister's couch.   
I've left the Legacy burial information blank.
   It's interesting to see that others have similar problems.  My  
father-in-law's cremains are on a wall shelf in my wife's studio  
while we try to figure out where to bury or scatter them (WV where  
he was born; OH (where he lived for many years or MO where a  
grandson lives who might visit the grave).  At that point,  
information will be entered into Legacy as to disposition.
   Someone that I met recently waited over a year to bury her  
husband's cremains because she did not like the setting at a nearby  
National Cemetery and they told her to wait a year until another  
section would be started.


Howland Davis


I have heard many people say how they use the burial date to  
substantiate the death date.  It will be really hard years from now to  
verify things like this.  Maybe these situations will help us to  
convince others to deal with cremains more quickly and reverently.


How horrible to think of spending eternity under a sofa or getting  
destroyed in the trunk of a car during an accident!  I wonder if some  
people get tired of having the cremains around and eventually throw  
them in the trash.  I wouldn't be surprised in some cases.  What if  
the car were sold with the cremains still there?  I think I'd want to  
know what happened with the remains, but certainly they should be  
given a respectful proper burial.  This is the reason why the Catholic  
Church delayed approval of cremation for so long. Now they say that  
cremation may only be done if the person still believes in the  
resurrection of the body and provided that a quick and reverent burial  
be done.  I never liked cremation and really didn't like it when I  
heard that the larger bones don't burn up and are thrown away.  Now  
I'm dead set again it.  Pun intended.


Ellen Kramer

Researching and loving Dorman, Kramer, Mirarchi, Procopio, Renninger  
and Staudt-Stoudt-Stout families










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Re: [LegacyUG] Death location

[Jim Walton]

Thanks, Ron, that's what I was looking for.

Jim


On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:

>  Jim,
>
> It is your database, so you can do as you wish. Nevertheless what you are
> suggesting would be incorrect. The usual way is to include "at sea" and, if
> one knows, it the name of the sea. I have a few of these and they sort fine
> at or near the start of the list: "At sea, The English Channel", "At Sea,
> The Atlantic Ocean" etc.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> _
>
> New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> 
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Jim Walton 
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> *Sent:* 12 October 2009 07:15
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Death location
>
> In keeping with standard locations I'm wondering if I could consider the
> ship as the city, leave the county and state fields blank, and use South
> Atlantic for the country. At least that way it would sort properly. Then in
> the notes I could give the details. Perhaps I'm being too critical.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Kramer  wrote:
>
>> We just had a cremation and possible private burial on farmland that I
>> want to verify so I'm ready to do one of those too.  This is how I would do
>> it.  In the Burial Notes or maybe burial location, I would mention "buried
>> at sea" and which water area if that is what happened.  In Death Notes I
>> would mention that the death took place "aboard a ship in the South
>> Atlantic" or whatever the situation is.
>>
>> With regard to cremation, I would note the cremation in the death notes if
>> necessary, but I find burial more important.  Since there are so many people
>> scattering ashes to the wind, it will be very difficult for genealogists in
>> the future.  For the sake of locating the burial location, if given a
>> choice, I would choose to note the burial location.   The date of cremation
>> is not an issue to me.  Death and burial are the important things, just like
>> the date of embalming is not noted.  I would only use cremation date to note
>> that we won't be able to find a burial spot due to a different "disposal"
>> (gee, not very reverent) of the remains.  Whether cremated or embalmed, if
>> burial takes place, that takes precedence.  If there is no burial, then I
>> would note cremation to show that no burial took place.
>>
>> Ellen Kramer
>>
>> Researching and loving Dorman, Kramer, Mirarchi, Procopio, Renninger and
>> Staudt-Stoudt-Stout families
>>
>>
>> On Oct 9, 2009, at 10:34 PM, William H. Boswell wrote:
>>
>> I was wondering the same thing and am glad somebody asked it.  I have a
>>> twist on one person: the person donated his body to a medical school, then
>>> was cremated.  No idea where the cremains were buried.
>>>
>>> I noticed you can't select both cremated and burial.  It's either one or
>>> the other.  I think I have a separate event for cremations.
>>>
>>> Bill Boswell
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
>>> Behalf Of Jim Walton
>>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:21 PM
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Death location
>>>
>>> I have an uncle who died aboard ship during WW II. What do I put as his
>>> death location? I currently have Aboard ship in South Atlantic.
>>>
>>> On a similar topic, what to do about cremation. They are cremated and
>>> buried, but not necessarily on the same day. Do you just select cremated and
>>> then use the date and place of burial? I guess the cremation could be
>>> entered as an event, and then the burial record entered for burial. I really
>>> don't think it's a critical issue, but I'm curious how others are handling
>>> this.
>>>
>>> Jim
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Re: [LegacyUG] Death location

[Ron Ferguson]

Jim,

It is your database, so you can do as you wish. Nevertheless what you are 
suggesting would be incorrect. The usual way is to include "at sea" and, if one 
knows, it the name of the sea. I have a few of these and they sort fine at or 
near the start of the list: "At sea, The English Channel", "At Sea, The 
Atlantic Ocean" etc.

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Walton 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: 12 October 2009 07:15
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Death location


  In keeping with standard locations I'm wondering if I could consider the ship 
as the city, leave the county and state fields blank, and use South Atlantic 
for the country. At least that way it would sort properly. Then in the notes I 
could give the details. Perhaps I'm being too critical.

  Jim



  On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Kramer  wrote:

We just had a cremation and possible private burial on farmland that I want 
to verify so I'm ready to do one of those too.  This is how I would do it.  In 
the Burial Notes or maybe burial location, I would mention "buried at sea" and 
which water area if that is what happened.  In Death Notes I would mention that 
the death took place "aboard a ship in the South Atlantic" or whatever the 
situation is.

With regard to cremation, I would note the cremation in the death notes if 
necessary, but I find burial more important.  Since there are so many people 
scattering ashes to the wind, it will be very difficult for genealogists in the 
future.  For the sake of locating the burial location, if given a choice, I 
would choose to note the burial location.   The date of cremation is not an 
issue to me.  Death and burial are the important things, just like the date of 
embalming is not noted.  I would only use cremation date to note that we won't 
be able to find a burial spot due to a different "disposal" (gee, not very 
reverent) of the remains.  Whether cremated or embalmed, if burial takes place, 
that takes precedence.  If there is no burial, then I would note cremation to 
show that no burial took place.

Ellen Kramer

Researching and loving Dorman, Kramer, Mirarchi, Procopio, Renninger and 
Staudt-Stoudt-Stout families


On Oct 9, 2009, at 10:34 PM, William H. Boswell wrote:


  I was wondering the same thing and am glad somebody asked it.  I have a 
twist on one person: the person donated his body to a medical school, then was 
cremated.  No idea where the cremains were buried.

  I noticed you can't select both cremated and burial.  It's either one or 
the other.  I think I have a separate event for cremations.

  Bill Boswell
  -Original Message-
  From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on 
Behalf Of Jim Walton
  Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:21 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Death location

  I have an uncle who died aboard ship during WW II. What do I put as his 
death location? I currently have Aboard ship in South Atlantic.

  On a similar topic, what to do about cremation. They are cremated and 
buried, but not necessarily on the same day. Do you just select cremated and 
then use the date and place of burial? I guess the cremation could be entered 
as an event, and then the burial record entered for burial. I really don't 
think it's a critical issue, but I'm curious how others are handling this.

  Jim

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Re: [LegacyUG] Death location

[Jim Walton]

In keeping with standard locations I'm wondering if I could consider the
ship as the city, leave the county and state fields blank, and use South
Atlantic for the country. At least that way it would sort properly. Then in
the notes I could give the details. Perhaps I'm being too critical.

Jim


On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Kramer  wrote:

> We just had a cremation and possible private burial on farmland that I want
> to verify so I'm ready to do one of those too.  This is how I would do it.
>  In the Burial Notes or maybe burial location, I would mention "buried at
> sea" and which water area if that is what happened.  In Death Notes I would
> mention that the death took place "aboard a ship in the South Atlantic" or
> whatever the situation is.
>
> With regard to cremation, I would note the cremation in the death notes if
> necessary, but I find burial more important.  Since there are so many people
> scattering ashes to the wind, it will be very difficult for genealogists in
> the future.  For the sake of locating the burial location, if given a
> choice, I would choose to note the burial location.   The date of cremation
> is not an issue to me.  Death and burial are the important things, just like
> the date of embalming is not noted.  I would only use cremation date to note
> that we won't be able to find a burial spot due to a different "disposal"
> (gee, not very reverent) of the remains.  Whether cremated or embalmed, if
> burial takes place, that takes precedence.  If there is no burial, then I
> would note cremation to show that no burial took place.
>
> Ellen Kramer
>
> Researching and loving Dorman, Kramer, Mirarchi, Procopio, Renninger and
> Staudt-Stoudt-Stout families
>
>
> On Oct 9, 2009, at 10:34 PM, William H. Boswell wrote:
>
>  I was wondering the same thing and am glad somebody asked it.  I have a
>> twist on one person: the person donated his body to a medical school, then
>> was cremated.  No idea where the cremains were buried.
>>
>> I noticed you can't select both cremated and burial.  It's either one or
>> the other.  I think I have a separate event for cremations.
>>
>> Bill Boswell
>> -Original Message-
>> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf
>> Of Jim Walton
>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:21 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Death location
>>
>> I have an uncle who died aboard ship during WW II. What do I put as his
>> death location? I currently have Aboard ship in South Atlantic.
>>
>> On a similar topic, what to do about cremation. They are cremated and
>> buried, but not necessarily on the same day. Do you just select cremated and
>> then use the date and place of burial? I guess the cremation could be
>> entered as an event, and then the burial record entered for burial. I really
>> don't think it's a critical issue, but I'm curious how others are handling
>> this.
>>
>> Jim
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Re: [LegacyUG] Death location

[Ron Ferguson]

Ellen,

I am not at all certain that I accept your priorities regarding dates.

The date of death, at least since 1837 in the UK, is always recorded in the 
Government BMD lists, prior to that date very often one would only find the 
date of burial in the parish registers and not the date of death.


Cremations only started to become common in the late 19c early 20c, and 
these dates are recorded in the crematorium records and are, therefore, 
available (perhaps subject to restrictions). However, the dates on which 
ashes are scattered to the winds are not, nor would the dates on which they 
may be scattered on a grave. I am not sure about a date of burial in the 
event of the casket being buried in a family plot.


It rather seems to me that the date of  the initial way in which the body is 
disposed is, therefore, the date which should always take precidence, after 
the date of death, of course.


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Kramer wrote:

We just had a cremation and possible private burial on farmland that
I want to verify so I'm ready to do one of those too.  This is how I
would do it.  In the Burial Notes or maybe burial location, I would
mention "buried at sea" and which water area if that is what
happened.  In Death Notes I would mention that the death took place
"aboard a ship in the South Atlantic" or whatever the situation is.

With regard to cremation, I would note the cremation in the death
notes if necessary, but I find burial more important.  Since there
are so many people scattering ashes to the wind, it will be very
difficult for genealogists in the future.  For the sake of locating
the burial location, if given a choice, I would choose to note the
burial location.   The date of cremation is not an issue to me.
Death and burial are the important things, just like the date of
embalming is not noted.  I would only use cremation date to note
that we won't be able to find a burial spot due to a different
"disposal" (gee, not very reverent) of the remains.  Whether
cremated or embalmed, if burial takes place, that takes precedence.
If there is no burial, then I would note cremation to show that no
burial took place.

Ellen Kramer

Researching and loving Dorman, Kramer, Mirarchi, Procopio, Renninger
and Staudt-Stoudt-Stout families

On Oct 9, 2009, at 10:34 PM, William H. Boswell wrote:


I was wondering the same thing and am glad somebody asked it.  I
have a twist on one person: the person donated his body to a medical
school, then was cremated.  No idea where the cremains were buried.

I noticed you can't select both cremated and burial.  It's either
one or the other.  I think I have a separate event for cremations.

Bill Boswell
-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on
Behalf Of Jim Walton
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:21 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Death location

I have an uncle who died aboard ship during WW II. What do I put as
his death location? I currently have Aboard ship in South Atlantic.

On a similar topic, what to do about cremation. They are cremated
and buried, but not necessarily on the same day. Do you just select
cremated and then use the date and place of burial? I guess the
cremation could be entered as an event, and then the burial record
entered for burial. I really don't think it's a critical issue, but
I'm curious how others are handling this.

Jim







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Re: [LegacyUG] Death location

[Kramer]

We just had a cremation and possible private burial on farmland that I  
want to verify so I'm ready to do one of those too.  This is how I  
would do it.  In the Burial Notes or maybe burial location, I would  
mention "buried at sea" and which water area if that is what  
happened.  In Death Notes I would mention that the death took place  
"aboard a ship in the South Atlantic" or whatever the situation is.


With regard to cremation, I would note the cremation in the death  
notes if necessary, but I find burial more important.  Since there are  
so many people scattering ashes to the wind, it will be very difficult  
for genealogists in the future.  For the sake of locating the burial  
location, if given a choice, I would choose to note the burial  
location.   The date of cremation is not an issue to me.  Death and  
burial are the important things, just like the date of embalming is  
not noted.  I would only use cremation date to note that we won't be  
able to find a burial spot due to a different "disposal" (gee, not  
very reverent) of the remains.  Whether cremated or embalmed, if  
burial takes place, that takes precedence.  If there is no burial,  
then I would note cremation to show that no burial took place.


Ellen Kramer

Researching and loving Dorman, Kramer, Mirarchi, Procopio, Renninger  
and Staudt-Stoudt-Stout families


On Oct 9, 2009, at 10:34 PM, William H. Boswell wrote:

I was wondering the same thing and am glad somebody asked it.  I  
have a twist on one person: the person donated his body to a medical  
school, then was cremated.  No idea where the cremains were buried.


I noticed you can't select both cremated and burial.  It's either  
one or the other.  I think I have a separate event for cremations.


Bill Boswell
-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on  
Behalf Of Jim Walton

Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:21 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Death location

I have an uncle who died aboard ship during WW II. What do I put as  
his death location? I currently have Aboard ship in South Atlantic.


On a similar topic, what to do about cremation. They are cremated  
and buried, but not necessarily on the same day. Do you just select  
cremated and then use the date and place of burial? I guess the  
cremation could be entered as an event, and then the burial record  
entered for burial. I really don't think it's a critical issue, but  
I'm curious how others are handling this.


Jim

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Re: [LegacyUG] Death Location

[HowlandDavisII]

Roxanne and others
 
In a message dated 10/11/2009 11:12:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
maighe...@yahoo.com writes:

I had to laugh when I read this; my mom donated her body to the  University 
of Rochester.  After a year or so, her cremains were returned  to us.  She 
currently resides under my sister's couch.  I've left  the Legacy burial 
information blank.  
It's interesting to see that others have similar  problems.  My 
father-in-law's cremains are on a wall shelf in my wife's  studio while we try 
to 
figure out where to bury or scatter them (WV where  he was born; OH (where he 
lived for many years or MO where a grandson lives who  might visit the 
grave).  At that point, information will be entered into  Legacy as to 
disposition.
Someone that I met recently waited over a year to  bury her husband's 
cremains because she did not like the setting at a  nearby National Cemetery 
and they told her to wait a year until another section  would be started. 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Death location

[Ruth Nerud]

My aunt did the same thing - donated her body - cremains were returned to my 
cousin - she took her mother to lunch with a friend. Now her brother has 
their mother for a visit. Eventually she'll be buried next to my uncle, but 
in the meantime :) ;) burial place is empty.

Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
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- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Death location


I had to laugh when I read this... my mom donated her body to the University 
of Rochester. After a year or so, her cremains were returned to us. She 
currently resides under my sister's couch. I've left the Legacy burial 
information blank.


Roxanne Baird 





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RE: [LegacyUG] Death location

[Jim Terry/Support]

Roxanne, 

I've got a better story. When I was 19 years old I came from college for the
summer of 1970. For some reason not remembered, I was using my step-mother's
car and opened the trunk. There was a flight bag there and being curious I
unzipped it. Lo and behold! There were my mother's ashes in their sealed
urn! Why my Dad put them there I don't know, but when I told my step-mom,
she nearly flipped! She had been driving all over San Diego with the first
wife's cremations in the back end for who knows how long! I urged my Dad to
respectfully find a less mobile resting place for my mother. Permanent
disposition unknown to me to this day. 

Thank you for choosing Legacy, 

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-Original Message- 

From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Roxanne 

Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 8:10 AM 

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Death location 

I had to laugh when I read this... my mom donated her body to the University
of Rochester. After a year or so, her cremains were returned to us. She
currently resides under my sister's couch. I've left the Legacy burial
information blank. 

Roxanne Baird 

--- On Sat, 10/10/09, Mike Fry  wrote: 

> From: Mike Fry  

> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Death location 

> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 

> Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 6:09 AM 

> William H. Boswell wrote: 

> > I was wondering the same thing and am glad somebody 

> asked it.  I have a twist on one person: the person 

> donated his body to a medical school, then was 

> cremated.  No idea where the cremains were buried. 

> 

> In that case, enter the death details as normal. Leave the 

> burial/cremation details blank. Create an event for the 

> disposal of the body. 

> 

> > I noticed you can't select both cremated and 

> burial.  It's either one or the other.  I think I 

> have a separate event for cremations. 

> 

> A body is normally either buried or cremated. So, death 

> details apply as usual. Change the Burial/Cremation details 

> to read Cremation and enter the date and details. Then, 

> either enter the interment details in the Notes for the 

> Cremation or, create an event as in former case. 

> 

> 

> -- Best regards, 

> Mike Fry 

> Johannesburg. 

> 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Death location

[Roxanne]

I had to laugh when I read this... my mom donated her body to the University of 
Rochester. After a year or so, her cremains were returned to us. She currently 
resides under my sister's couch. I've left the Legacy burial information blank.

Roxanne Baird

--- On Sat, 10/10/09, Mike Fry  wrote:

> From: Mike Fry 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Death location
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 6:09 AM
> William H. Boswell wrote:
> > I was wondering the same thing and am glad somebody
> asked it.  I have a twist on one person: the person
> donated his body to a medical school, then was
> cremated.  No idea where the cremains were buried.
> 
> In that case, enter the death details as normal. Leave the
> burial/cremation details blank. Create an event for the
> disposal of the body.
> 
> > I noticed you can't select both cremated and
> burial.  It's either one or the other.  I think I
> have a separate event for cremations.
> 
> A body is normally either buried or cremated. So, death
> details apply as usual. Change the Burial/Cremation details
> to read Cremation and enter the date and details. Then,
> either enter the interment details in the Notes for the
> Cremation or, create an event as in former case.
> 
> 
> -- Best regards,
> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg.
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Death location

[Michele Lewis]

If the cremains are later interred,  you can do a cemetery event which is 
what I do for buried people to.


died 04 Jun 1925
buried (or cremated) 06 Jun 1925

then event...

Cemetery
Belluvue Cemetery
25 Jun 1025
, Columbia Co, GA

and in the notes I can write something like...

The family had a special memorial ceremony at graveside and buried the 
cremains.




[just a made up example]


Even if a person is NOT cremated and is just buried, I have a date for the 
death, a date for the burial, and cemetery info.  In this care the date of 
burial and the cemetery date will be the same but it doesn't have to be.


michele


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From: "Mike Fry" 

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Death location



William H. Boswell wrote:

I was wondering the same thing and am glad somebody asked it.  I have a
twist on one person: the person donated his body to a medical school,
then was cremated.  No idea where the cremains were buried.


In that case, enter the death details as normal. Leave the
burial/cremation details blank. Create an event for the disposal of the
body.


I noticed you can't select both cremated and burial.  It's either one or
the other.  I think I have a separate event for cremations.


A body is normally either buried or cremated. So, death details apply as
usual. Change the Burial/Cremation details to read Cremation and enter
the date and details. Then, either enter the interment details in the
Notes for the Cremation or, create an event as in former case.


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Mike Fry
Johannesburg.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Death location

[Mike Fry]

William H. Boswell wrote:
I was wondering the same thing and am glad somebody asked it.  I have a 
twist on one person: the person donated his body to a medical school, 
then was cremated.  No idea where the cremains were buried.


In that case, enter the death details as normal. Leave the 
burial/cremation details blank. Create an event for the disposal of the 
body.


I noticed you can't select both cremated and burial.  It's either one or 
the other.  I think I have a separate event for cremations.


A body is normally either buried or cremated. So, death details apply as 
usual. Change the Burial/Cremation details to read Cremation and enter 
the date and details. Then, either enter the interment details in the 
Notes for the Cremation or, create an event as in former case.



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Mike Fry
Johannesburg.



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RE: [LegacyUG] Death location

[William H. Boswell]

I was wondering the same thing and am glad somebody asked it.  I have a
twist on one person: the person donated his body to a medical school, then
was cremated.  No idea where the cremains were buried.

I noticed you can't select both cremated and burial.  It's either one or the
other.  I think I have a separate event for cremations.

Bill Boswell
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Of Jim Walton
  Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:21 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Death location


  I have an uncle who died aboard ship during WW II. What do I put as his
death location? I currently have Aboard ship in South Atlantic.

  On a similar topic, what to do about cremation. They are cremated and
buried, but not necessarily on the same day. Do you just select cremated and
then use the date and place of burial? I guess the cremation could be
entered as an event, and then the burial record entered for burial. I really
don't think it's a critical issue, but I'm curious how others are handling
this.

  Jim





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Re: [LegacyUG]Death location [was Master Location List--use of brackets]?

[Alice McVearry]

Thad,

The answer to your question lies in the minds of the Scottish authorities
who, just prior to 1855, decided what information would be recorded in the
Statutory Register of Births, Marriages and Deaths of Scotland.

When I began to search for and transfer the data from the Scottish civil
records to my Legacy file, I noticed that an increasing number of my people
who should have been in the county of Fife at the time of their deaths were
no longer dying in their homes, but in hospital in Edinburgh.  At that time
I also noticed the addition of another heading in the column that contained
the death date and time, and the location data.  It was entitled "Usual
Place of Residence."  Wishing to tie the deceased person to their known
home town and county, rather than the unfamiliar place in which they died,
without much thought I created the Event with that name and entered the
data as it was recorded.  To my mind, filling in the Usual Place of
Residence event after completing the Death fields is a way of bringing them
home.  

It has been a very tough day and I don't feel much like laughing.  Please
forgive me.  -- Alice

- Original Message - 
From: TH 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: 9/26/2007 4:02:23 PM 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG]Death location [was Master Location List--use of
brackets]?

With the already available ability to record a death location and to show a
person's residence location at any point in time, including death, WHY
create the "Usual Place of Residence", and if you really think you need
that extra event, why not name it "Usual Place of Residence at Death"? 
That's intended as a joke. 

On 9/26/07, Pat Hickin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Alice wrote>
> In addition to the event entitled "Residence" which I make full use of, I 
> have created and event entitled "Usual Place of Residence" which I always
> generate when the death place is distant from the normal home place.

Great idea -- I like that !  Thanks, Alice.

--
Pat

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From: "Alice McVearry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: < LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG]Death location [was Master Location List--use of
brackets]?

> Hi Pat,
>
> IMHO it is of equal importance to indicate both the place of residence
and 
> the place of death if they differ.  Death certificates are extremely
> helpful in genealogical research, and in general a lot easier to acquire.
> One must file for the death certificate in the state where the person 
> died.
>
>> In addition to the event entitled "Residence" which I make full use of, I
> have created and event entitled "Usual Place of Residence" which I always
> generate when the death place is distant from the normal home place.  The 
> dates of both events are identical.  Brief notes can be useful.  -- Alice
>
>>> [Original Message]
>> From: Pat Hickin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location List--use of brackets?
>>
>> Also, I think it's usually more important to know where one was living at
>> the time of death, than the actual location of the death (though I think 
>> both, if different, are important).  I had a cousin who lived in WV and
> died
>> in NC because he was in the Duke U hospital.  W/o explanation someone
> would
>> think the family had moved to NC.




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Re: [LegacyUG]Death location [was Master Location List--use of brackets]?

[TH]

With the already available ability to record a death location and to show a
person's residence location at any point in time, including death, WHY
create the "Usual Place of Residence", and if you really think you need that
extra event, why not name it "Usual Place of Residence at Death"?  That's
intended as a joke.

On 9/26/07, Pat Hickin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Alice wrote>
> > In addition to the event entitled "Residence" which I make full use of,
> I
> > have created and event entitled "Usual Place of Residence" which I
> always
> > generate when the death place is distant from the normal home place.
>
> Great idea -- I like that !  Thanks, Alice.
>
> --
>
> Pat
>
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Alice McVearry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 10:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG]Death location [was Master Location List--use of
> brackets]?
>
>
> > Hi Pat,
> >
> > IMHO it is of equal importance to indicate both the place of residence
> and
> > the place of death if they differ.  Death certificates are extremely
> > helpful in genealogical research, and in general a lot easier to
> acquire.
> > One must file for the death certificate in the state where the person
> > died.
> >
> >
> > In addition to the event entitled "Residence" which I make full use of,
> I
> > have created and event entitled "Usual Place of Residence" which I
> always
> > generate when the death place is distant from the normal home
> place.  The
> > dates of both events are identical.  Brief notes can be useful.  --
> Alice
> >
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Pat Hickin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location List--use of brackets?
> >>
> >> Also, I think it's usually more important to know where one was living
> at
> >> the time of death, than the actual location of the death (though I
> think
> >> both, if different, are important).  I had a cousin who lived in WV and
> > died
> >> in NC because he was in the Duke U hospital.  W/o explanation someone
> > would
> >> think the family had moved to NC.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG]Death location [was Master Location List--use of brackets]?

[Pat Hickin]

Alice wrote>

In addition to the event entitled "Residence" which I make full use of, I
have created and event entitled "Usual Place of Residence" which I always
generate when the death place is distant from the normal home place.


Great idea -- I like that !  Thanks, Alice.

--

Pat


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From: "Alice McVearry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG]Death location [was Master Location List--use of 
brackets]?




Hi Pat,

IMHO it is of equal importance to indicate both the place of residence and
the place of death if they differ.  Death certificates are extremely
helpful in genealogical research, and in general a lot easier to acquire.
One must file for the death certificate in the state where the person 
died.



In addition to the event entitled "Residence" which I make full use of, I
have created and event entitled "Usual Place of Residence" which I always
generate when the death place is distant from the normal home place.  The
dates of both events are identical.  Brief notes can be useful.  -- Alice



[Original Message]
From: Pat Hickin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location List--use of brackets?

Also, I think it's usually more important to know where one was living at
the time of death, than the actual location of the death (though I think
both, if different, are important).  I had a cousin who lived in WV and

died

in NC because he was in the Duke U hospital.  W/o explanation someone

would

think the family had moved to NC.






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RE: [LegacyUG]Death location [was Master Location List--use of brackets]?

[ronald ferguson]

Alice,

The way I do this is to use the Residence Event and put "time of death" in the 
Description field. In my view the place of Residence and the place of Death are 
two different things in that a residence is permanent.

I admit to not being wholly consistent in this as I will use the address given 
in the census for someone who is a visitor if I have no further information, 
but qualify it in the notes.

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG]Death location [was Master Location List--use of 
> brackets]?
> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:55:03 -0400
>
> Hi Pat,
>
> IMHO it is of equal importance to indicate both the place of residence and
> the place of death if they differ. Death certificates are extremely
> helpful in genealogical research, and in general a lot easier to acquire.
> One must file for the death certificate in the state where the person died.
>
>
> In addition to the event entitled "Residence" which I make full use of, I
> have created and event entitled "Usual Place of Residence" which I always
> generate when the death place is distant from the normal home place. The
> dates of both events are identical. Brief notes can be useful. -- Alice
>

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Re: [LegacyUG]Death location [was Master Location List--use of brackets]?

[Alice McVearry]

Hi Pat,

IMHO it is of equal importance to indicate both the place of residence and
the place of death if they differ.  Death certificates are extremely
helpful in genealogical research, and in general a lot easier to acquire. 
One must file for the death certificate in the state where the person died.


In addition to the event entitled "Residence" which I make full use of, I
have created and event entitled "Usual Place of Residence" which I always
generate when the death place is distant from the normal home place.  The
dates of both events are identical.  Brief notes can be useful.  -- Alice


> [Original Message]
> From: Pat Hickin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Location List--use of brackets?
>
> Also, I think it's usually more important to know where one was living at 
> the time of death, than the actual location of the death (though I think 
> both, if different, are important).  I had a cousin who lived in WV and
died 
> in NC because he was in the Duke U hospital.  W/o explanation someone
would 
> think the family had moved to NC.





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