Re: [LegacyUG] File names format
Really? I have thousands of files named without underscores. JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html Barrie Smart wrote: Windows won't look at a filename with spaces - therefore the underscore. Whether you load in on the 'Net is not the issue - its how a particular program will treat it. So underscore works all the time - spaces very rarely, if ever. HTH On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Cathy Vallevieni [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone recently said to create file names with _ instead of spaces for posting to the internet (I believe). I.E. Sam_Smith_Letter.jpg vs. Sam Smith Letter.jpg What happens when a file name with spaces is uploaded to the Internet? Is there any other application that requires _ instead of spaces? Thanks. Cathy Vallevieni Orange County, CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Regards Barrie Smart Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] File names format
Hi Cathy, It is technically valid to use a space in a file name that will be accessed on the Internet but it can sometimes be confusing for some people and whilst some software will let you address the file using a space others will require that you encode the spaces so Sam Smith Letter.jpg becomes Sam%20Smith%20Letter.jpg or Sam+Smith +Letter.jpg often works. Whether you have to encode the space depends on all sorts of things and a space in the file name could cause problems for some people wanting to save the file onto their own computer. Another reason why you might not want to use spaces is that the name could be confusing when written down on paper. Personally, I prefer to avoid using the underscore because you will notice that some applications and web sites have links to URLs (the unique address given to internet resources) underlined and therefore the underscore isn't always clear. My preference is to use the case of letters to help make the name more readable so Sam Smith Letter.jpg becomes SamSmithLetter.jpg but my experience is that you will always get different opinions on this and I haven't found a perfect answer. For example when I take notes I write everything in uppercase so SamSmithLetter.jpg becomes SAMSMITHLETTER.JPG but fortunately this will often still work anyway (but not always!). Thanks, Dave Cathy Vallevieni wrote: Someone recently said to create file names with _ instead of spaces for posting to the internet (I believe). I.E. Sam_Smith_Letter.jpg vs. Sam Smith Letter.jpg What happens when a file name with spaces is uploaded to the Internet? Is there any other application that requires _ instead of spaces? Thanks. Cathy Vallevieni Orange County, CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] File names format
Is there any problem with using periods instead of underscores? i.e., Sam.Smith.letter.jpg Or dashes? i.e., Sam-Smith-letter.jpg On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Dave Mellors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Cathy, It is technically valid to use a space in a file name that will be accessed on the Internet but it can sometimes be confusing for some people and whilst some software will let you address the file using a space others will require that you encode the spaces so Sam Smith Letter.jpg becomes Sam%20Smith%20Letter.jpg or Sam+Smith +Letter.jpg often works. Whether you have to encode the space depends on all sorts of things and a space in the file name could cause problems for some people wanting to save the file onto their own computer. Another reason why you might not want to use spaces is that the name could be confusing when written down on paper. Personally, I prefer to avoid using the underscore because you will notice that some applications and web sites have links to URLs (the unique address given to internet resources) underlined and therefore the underscore isn't always clear. My preference is to use the case of letters to help make the name more readable so Sam Smith Letter.jpg becomes SamSmithLetter.jpg but my experience is that you will always get different opinions on this and I haven't found a perfect answer. For example when I take notes I write everything in uppercase so SamSmithLetter.jpg becomes SAMSMITHLETTER.JPG but fortunately this will often still work anyway (but not always!). Thanks, Dave Cathy Vallevieni wrote: Someone recently said to create file names with _ instead of spaces for posting to the internet (I believe). I.E. Sam_Smith_Letter.jpg vs. Sam Smith Letter.jpg What happens when a file name with spaces is uploaded to the Internet? Is there any other application that requires _ instead of spaces? Thanks. Cathy Vallevieni Orange County, CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] File names format
The periods can be a problem with some software (particularly some of the older operating systems) but the dashes seem like a good solution. Your file name would be readable and the added benefit that search engines work well with dashes. Unfortunately, it's too late for me. I have got into the habit using the letter casing through my programming and I think it's going to be a HardHabitToBreak ;) Thanks, Dave Bruce Jones wrote: Is there any problem with using periods instead of underscores? i.e., Sam.Smith.letter.jpg Or dashes? i.e., Sam-Smith-letter.jpg On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Dave Mellors [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Cathy, It is technically valid to use a space in a file name that will be accessed on the Internet but it can sometimes be confusing for some people and whilst some software will let you address the file using a space others will require that you encode the spaces so Sam Smith Letter.jpg becomes Sam%20Smith%20Letter.jpg or Sam+Smith +Letter.jpg often works. Whether you have to encode the space depends on all sorts of things and a space in the file name could cause problems for some people wanting to save the file onto their own computer. Another reason why you might not want to use spaces is that the name could be confusing when written down on paper. Personally, I prefer to avoid using the underscore because you will notice that some applications and web sites have links to URLs (the unique address given to internet resources) underlined and therefore the underscore isn't always clear. My preference is to use the case of letters to help make the name more readable so Sam Smith Letter.jpg becomes SamSmithLetter.jpg but my experience is that you will always get different opinions on this and I haven't found a perfect answer. For example when I take notes I write everything in uppercase so SamSmithLetter.jpg becomes SAMSMITHLETTER.JPG but fortunately this will often still work anyway (but not always!). Thanks, Dave Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] File names format
To add to Dave's comments, it is best when creating file names which may at some time be used on the internet to use only alphanumeric characters, except for the underscore and hyphen. Many other characters can cause problems in links etc. Only recently I had a mapping site which told me to copy of the URL for inclusion in one of my webpages. It contained an ampersand and would not work until changed to the html . Using other characters is something that one may get away with for years, but you change your ISP and then have to change the lot! The other point is that it may work on your PC through your ISP with your favourite browser, but there is no telling if it works on everybody's - they may just see a square with a red cross and not the pic. Ron Ferguson _ Update your British Prime Ministers Timeline - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 10:46:36 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] File names format The periods can be a problem with some software (particularly some of the older operating systems) but the dashes seem like a good solution. Your file name would be readable and the added benefit that search engines work well with dashes. Unfortunately, it's too late for me. I have got into the habit using the letter casing through my programming and I think it's going to be a HardHabitToBreak ;) Thanks, Dave Bruce Jones wrote: Is there any problem with using periods instead of underscores? i.e., Sam.Smith.letter.jpg Or dashes? i.e., Sam-Smith-letter.jpg On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 12:32 AM, Dave Mellors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Cathy, It is technically valid to use a space in a file name that will be accessed on the Internet but it can sometimes be confusing for some people and whilst some software will let you address the file using a space others will require that you encode the spaces so Sam Smith Letter.jpg becomes Sam%20Smith%20Letter.jpg or Sam+Smith +Letter.jpg often works. Whether you have to encode the space depends on all sorts of things and a space in the file name could cause problems for some people wanting to save the file onto their own computer. Another reason why you might not want to use spaces is that the name could be confusing when written down on paper. Personally, I prefer to avoid using the underscore because you will notice that some applications and web sites have links to URLs (the unique address given to internet resources) underlined and therefore the underscore isn't always clear. My preference is to use the case of letters to help make the name more readable so Sam Smith Letter.jpg becomes SamSmithLetter.jpg but my experience is that you will always get different opinions on this and I haven't found a perfect answer. For example when I take notes I write everything in uppercase so SamSmithLetter.jpg becomes SAMSMITHLETTER.JPG but fortunately this will often still work anyway (but not always!). Thanks, Dave _ Get Hotmail on your mobile from Vodafone http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571435/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] File names format
Not true. Windows is perfectly happy to use filenames that contain spaces. Most of the pictures that I have attached to people, events, sources, etc. in Legacy contain spaces. For example, I routinely use file names of the type Bob Janice - Birth Certificate.jpg. Windows and Legacy have absolutely no problems with this construct. As far as using these file names when creating web pages from Legacy - all you have to do is check off the box Convert to lowercase letters on the Formatting tab when you choose the Web Page Creation option from Legacy. Legacy will then automatically convert the file names to the form bob_janice_-_birth_certificate.jpg when generating your web pages. I've been doing this for several years now with no problems when creating Descendant web pages. Both Ron and Dave are correct in their comments about the possibility of confusion when images with spaces are included in web pages. Since most web servers use some form of Apache as the underlying control program for the web it may cause some problems since Apache (and Linux or Unix) are case and character sensitive. Getting rid of the spaces and uppercase letters is probably the safest route - luckily, Legacy can do this for you. Bob Barrie Smart wrote: Windows won't look at a filename with spaces - therefore the underscore. Whether you load in on the 'Net is not the issue - its how a particular program will treat it. So underscore works all the time - spaces very rarely, if ever. HTH On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Cathy Vallevieni [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone recently said to create file names with _ instead of spaces for posting to the internet (I believe). I.E. Sam_Smith_Letter.jpg vs. Sam Smith Letter.jpg What happens when a file name with spaces is uploaded to the Internet? Is there any other application that requires _ instead of spaces? Thanks. Cathy Vallevieni Orange County, CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Regards Barrie Smart Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] File names format
Thank you everyone that responded. Quite an education. I'm glad I asked while I only have 3 documents attached to sources. I'm going to change everything to a safe format that will work on all instances (probably use dashes). Hope this helps other newbies. Cathy Vallevieni Orange County, CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
