Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666?
It would need to be Nuev*o* México. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 6:22 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: As an example, I use 'Boston, Suffolk County, Massachusetts Bay Colony, British NA', or 'Richmond, le Val Saint Francois, Canada East, British NA'. For the Spanish stuff I use 'Albuquerque, Bernalillo County, Nueva México, Nueva España'. (I have no South America.) In my location notes I have the dates that these titles would be 'accurate?'. I have a lot of redundancy in my notes. Rich in LA CA --- On Mon, 11/24/08, John S. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John S. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666? To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 10:59 AM British North America or Colonial America wouldn't differentiate between areas controlled at different times by the English, French, Spanish, Dutch, or even the Russians. Even the borders and names of the British Colonies changed over time, e.g., East Jersey, West Jersey, New Jersey. Very confusing. I haven't been consistent. I think I'll have to add a North American history book or a timeline for each present state to my genealogy library. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: MICHELLE CROSBY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:38 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666? I don't know if this is correct or not, I have always used BNA for Britsh North America and when the Colonies won their independence I then enter the location as USA. Shelly Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666?
Thank you, I will fix it today. --- On Tue, 11/25/08, Randolph Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Randolph Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666? To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 2:57 AM It would need to be Nuev*o* México. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 6:22 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: As an example, I use 'Boston, Suffolk County, Massachusetts Bay Colony, British NA', or 'Richmond, le Val Saint Francois, Canada East, British NA'. For the Spanish stuff I use 'Albuquerque, Bernalillo County, Nueva México, Nueva España'. (I have no South America.) In my location notes I have the dates that these titles would be 'accurate?'. I have a lot of redundancy in my notes. Rich in LA CA --- On Mon, 11/24/08, John S. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John S. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666? To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 10:59 AM British North America or Colonial America wouldn't differentiate between areas controlled at different times by the English, French, Spanish, Dutch, or even the Russians. Even the borders and names of the British Colonies changed over time, e.g., East Jersey, West Jersey, New Jersey. Very confusing. I haven't been consistent. I think I'll have to add a North American history book or a timeline for each present state to my genealogy library. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: MICHELLE CROSBY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:38 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666? I don't know if this is correct or not, I have always used BNA for Britsh North America and when the Colonies won their independence I then enter the location as USA. Shelly Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666?
Elizabeth Richardson wrote To answer the OP's question, I would enter what the source says as guessing at anything would be just as inaccurate. At some future time, you may learn a the actual location and you can enter it then, even adding a note as to the earlier entry if you like. As far as the Source Citation goes I would definitely give the location exactly as in the given Source - America. But for my own benefit I would enter something in the Location field in . Such is my ignorance, I don't know how the colonised part of North America that later became part of the USA would have been referred to at that time, but if I was fairly sure that that was what was meant by America (rather than Mexico, Canada or wherever) I would enter the location as American Colonies or Colony of America or whatever the correct term was. This indicates to me that I am not entirely certain yet, but it's a good starting point for further research. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666?
I don't know if this is correct or not, I have always used BNA for Britsh North America and when the Colonies won their independence I then enter the location as USA. Shelly - Original Message - From: Jenny M Bensonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:47 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666? Elizabeth Richardson wrote To answer the OP's question, I would enter what the source says as guessing at anything would be just as inaccurate. At some future time, you may learn a the actual location and you can enter it then, even adding a note as to the earlier entry if you like. As far as the Source Citation goes I would definitely give the location exactly as in the given Source - America. But for my own benefit I would enter something in the Location field in . Such is my ignorance, I don't know how the colonised part of North America that later became part of the USA would have been referred to at that time, but if I was fairly sure that that was what was meant by America (rather than Mexico, Canada or wherever) I would enter the location as American Colonies or Colony of America or whatever the correct term was. This indicates to me that I am not entirely certain yet, but it's a good starting point for further research. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666?
Cathy Vallevieni wrote: I have an ancestor that a source states died in America in 1666/7. I don't have a location or colony. What would you enter in the Location (i.e. America or Colonial America or ???) Just to throw another spanner in the works :-) Doesn't it also matter when the source itself was written? Was it written in 1666/7 or was it written later? -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666?
Shelly and others, I think North American Colonies would be the best description. Historically speaking, to refer to the area as British North America especially in 1666 would not be correct as the French and Spanish also had a large presence. King Philips war, also known as the French and Indian war, occurred about ten years later. If memory serves me correctly, another list member used Colonial America in a message months ago. That would also be another good option. Hope this helps. Marcellyn From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MICHELLE CROSBY Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 6:39 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666? I don't know if this is correct or not, I have always used BNA for Britsh North America and when the Colonies won their independence I then enter the location as USA. Shelly Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666?
Good morning all, There is a listing of states and when they were admitted to the union on Wikipedia.org (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_date_of_statehood). I printed this off and have it next to my keyboard. Until the state was admitted/ ratified I always use American Colonies or the territory; after that I use USA. I have one family that came from France to Quebec and always use Quebec, Canada even though it is not totally correct. Hope this helps Myrna Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666?
Marcellyn, These are two different wars and time periods. King Philip's War, 1675-1676, was a conflict between the colonists and the Native Americans due to encroachment by the colonists. The French and Indian War, 1754-1763, was a war between the English and the French, who had support from the Native Americans, for control of the North American colonies. In this war the French lost control of what is now the New England states and eastern Canada. FL Rose -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mffowler Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:47 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666? Shelly and others, I think North American Colonies would be the best description. Historically speaking, to refer to the area as British North America especially in 1666 would not be correct as the French and Spanish also had a large presence. King Philip's war, also known as the French and Indian war, occurred about ten years later. If memory serves me correctly, another list member used Colonial America in a message months ago. That would also be another good option. Hope this helps. Marcellyn From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MICHELLE CROSBY Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 6:39 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666? I don't know if this is correct or not, I have always used BNA for Britsh North America and when the Colonies won their independence I then enter the location as USA. Shelly Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666?
Colonial America sounds right. For Virginia: In 1608, Captain John Smith wrote to a friend in England ... a true relation of such occurrences and accidents of note as hath happened in Virginia since the first planting of that colony... Sharon Perdue - Original Message - From: Frank L. Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 10:23:12 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666? Marcellyn, These are two different wars and time periods. King Philip's War, 1675-1676, was a conflict between the colonists and the Native Americans due to encroachment by the colonists. The French and Indian War, 1754-1763, was a war between the English and the French, who had support from the Native Americans, for control of the North American colonies. In this war the French lost control of what is now the New England states and eastern Canada. FL Rose -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mffowler Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:47 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666? Shelly and others, I think North American Colonies would be the best description. Historically speaking, to refer to the area as British North America especially in 1666 would not be correct as the French and Spanish also had a large presence. King Philip's war, also known as the French and Indian war, occurred about ten years later. If memory serves me correctly, another list member used Colonial America in a message months ago. That would also be another good option. Hope this helps. Marcellyn From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MICHELLE CROSBY Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 6:39 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666? I don't know if this is correct or not, I have always used BNA for Britsh North America and when the Colonies won their independence I then enter the location as USA. Shelly Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666?
British America (assuming that you know that it wasn't in Florida or some other part of America not under the control of the British). Drew Smith On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Cathy Vallevieni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an ancestor that a source states died in America in 1666/7. I don't have a location or colony. What would you enter in the Location (i.e. America or Colonial America or ???) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666?
I call it 'home of my Cherokee ancestors and other Native Americans' before it was over run by illegal aliens!!! :-) Bob Drew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: British America (assuming that you know that it wasn't in Florida or some other part of America not under the control of the British). Drew Smith On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Cathy Vallevieni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an ancestor that a source states died in America in 1666/7. I don't have a location or colony. What would you enter in the Location (i.e. America or Colonial America or ???) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666?
British North America or Colonial America wouldn't differentiate between areas controlled at different times by the English, French, Spanish, Dutch, or even the Russians. Even the borders and names of the British Colonies changed over time, e.g., East Jersey, West Jersey, New Jersey. Very confusing. I haven't been consistent. I think I'll have to add a North American history book or a timeline for each present state to my genealogy library. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: MICHELLE CROSBY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:38 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666? I don't know if this is correct or not, I have always used BNA for Britsh North America and when the Colonies won their independence I then enter the location as USA. Shelly Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666?
Perhaps I should say, it depends on where they were located. In the case of mine, they were all located in Mass or NY Shelly - Original Message - From: mffowlermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:47 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666? Shelly and others, I think North American Colonies would be the best description. Historically speaking, to refer to the area as British North America especially in 1666 would not be correct as the French and Spanish also had a large presence. King Philip's war, also known as the French and Indian war, occurred about ten years later. If memory serves me correctly, another list member used Colonial America in a message months ago. That would also be another good option. Hope this helps. Marcellyn From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MICHELLE CROSBY Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 6:39 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666? I don't know if this is correct or not, I have always used BNA for Britsh North America and when the Colonies won their independence I then enter the location as USA. Shelly Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666?
John: Animap is great for these situations but a little expensive. Wikipedia is often a big help in sorting out the colonies and their proper names at given times. Shelly: British North America or BNA could work in a pinch, but that's more of a geographical description; it never was a govening body since the colonies were individually chartered by the King of England. It's sort of mixing apples and oranges--but certainly better than saying that someone was born in 1700 in Massachusetts, USA. Kirsten -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John S. Adams Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 10:59 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666? British North America or Colonial America wouldn't differentiate between areas controlled at different times by the English, French, Spanish, Dutch, or even the Russians. Even the borders and names of the British Colonies changed over time, e.g., East Jersey, West Jersey, New Jersey. Very confusing. I haven't been consistent. I think I'll have to add a North American history book or a timeline for each present state to my genealogy library. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: MICHELLE CROSBY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:38 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666? I don't know if this is correct or not, I have always used BNA for Britsh North America and when the Colonies won their independence I then enter the location as USA. Shelly Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666?
But the problem here is that the only thing she knows is what the source gave her: that is, America. To make any other entry would simply be 100% inaccurate. She doesn't at this time know whether this was Plimouth Colony, Massachusetts Bay Colony, Rhode Island, Virginia, New York, St. Augustine, or any other place. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: Kirsten Bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:17 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666? John: Animap is great for these situations but a little expensive. Wikipedia is often a big help in sorting out the colonies and their proper names at given times. Shelly: British North America or BNA could work in a pinch, but that's more of a geographical description; it never was a govening body since the colonies were individually chartered by the King of England. It's sort of mixing apples and oranges--but certainly better than saying that someone was born in 1700 in Massachusetts, USA. Kirsten -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John S. Adams Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 10:59 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666? British North America or Colonial America wouldn't differentiate between areas controlled at different times by the English, French, Spanish, Dutch, or even the Russians. Even the borders and names of the British Colonies changed over time, e.g., East Jersey, West Jersey, New Jersey. Very confusing. I haven't been consistent. I think I'll have to add a North American history book or a timeline for each present state to my genealogy library. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: MICHELLE CROSBY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:38 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666? I don't know if this is correct or not, I have always used BNA for Britsh North America and when the Colonies won their independence I then enter the location as USA. Shelly Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666?
As an example, I use 'Boston, Suffolk County, Massachusetts Bay Colony, British NA', or 'Richmond, le Val Saint Francois, Canada East, British NA'. For the Spanish stuff I use 'Albuquerque, Bernalillo County, Nueva México, Nueva España'. (I have no South America.) In my location notes I have the dates that these titles would be 'accurate?'. I have a lot of redundancy in my notes. Rich in LA CA --- On Mon, 11/24/08, John S. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John S. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666? To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 10:59 AM British North America or Colonial America wouldn't differentiate between areas controlled at different times by the English, French, Spanish, Dutch, or even the Russians. Even the borders and names of the British Colonies changed over time, e.g., East Jersey, West Jersey, New Jersey. Very confusing. I haven't been consistent. I think I'll have to add a North American history book or a timeline for each present state to my genealogy library. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA -- From: MICHELLE CROSBY [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:38 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666? I don't know if this is correct or not, I have always used BNA for Britsh North America and when the Colonies won their independence I then enter the location as USA. Shelly Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666?
Or- perhaps - North America - we in the US often forget that Canada, Mexico, as well as the countries of Central and South America are all part of America. \Keith On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Cathy Vallevieni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an ancestor that a source states died in America in 1666/7. I don't have a location or colony. What would you enter in the Location (i.e. America or Colonial America or ???) Thanks. Cathy Orange County, CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666?
And of course sometimes we might forget that Canada and Mexico are in North America. But in 1666/67 Canada did not yet exist, so the ancestor might actually have died there, though if it had been Mexico the source might have been clearer. To answer the OP's question, I would enter what the source says as guessing at anything would be just as inaccurate. At some future time, you may learn a the actual location and you can enter it then, even adding a note as to the earlier entry if you like. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: GeoSci [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666? Or- perhaps - North America - we in the US often forget that Canada, Mexico, as well as the countries of Central and South America are all part of America. \Keith On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Cathy Vallevieni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an ancestor that a source states died in America in 1666/7. I don't have a location or colony. What would you enter in the Location (i.e. America or Colonial America or ???) Thanks. Cathy Orange County, CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666?
Agreed! Keith On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:12 AM, Elizabeth Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And of course sometimes we might forget that Canada and Mexico are in North America. But in 1666/67 Canada did not yet exist, so the ancestor might actually have died there, though if it had been Mexico the source might have been clearer. To answer the OP's question, I would enter what the source says as guessing at anything would be just as inaccurate. At some future time, you may learn a the actual location and you can enter it then, even adding a note as to the earlier entry if you like. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: GeoSci [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666? Or- perhaps - North America - we in the US often forget that Canada, Mexico, as well as the countries of Central and South America are all part of America. \Keith On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Cathy Vallevieni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an ancestor that a source states died in America in 1666/7. I don't have a location or colony. What would you enter in the Location (i.e. America or Colonial America or ???) Thanks. Cathy Orange County, CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666?
But what if the ancestor died in South America? ;-) Evert 2008/11/24 GeoSci [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Agreed! Keith On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 12:12 AM, Elizabeth Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And of course sometimes we might forget that Canada and Mexico are in North America. But in 1666/67 Canada did not yet exist, so the ancestor might actually have died there, though if it had been Mexico the source might have been clearer. To answer the OP's question, I would enter what the source says as guessing at anything would be just as inaccurate. At some future time, you may learn a the actual location and you can enter it then, even adding a note as to the earlier entry if you like. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: GeoSci [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What would you call America in 1666? Or- perhaps - North America - we in the US often forget that Canada, Mexico, as well as the countries of Central and South America are all part of America. \Keith On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Cathy Vallevieni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an ancestor that a source states died in America in 1666/7. I don't have a location or colony. What would you enter in the Location (i.e. America or Colonial America or ???) Thanks. Cathy Orange County, CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
