RE: [LegacyUG] Proper placement of place names

2012-02-12 Thread cr brassfield

Jackie
I agree but I'd like to clarify your statement at the end of first paragraph " 
... and it does help identify someone as being from a particular family".  This 
is where errors can occur. Blood/marriage lines can be identified this way but 
it can also merely mean that the family were retainers/servants of a particular 
noble family.
This ties in with another topic I started about a Master Occupations List. 
Families would carry on a particular occupation for generations and if you can 
track this and get back to the medieval it helps to separate the nobility from 
the worker.

Carol


> From: jskin...@gmail.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Proper placement of place names
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 18:03:29 -0600
>
>
> Of course, for those of us who dabble in the medieval, this runs right
> into the question of the so-called by- names - the infamous "of
> Hereford", "of Gloucester" etc. They aren't true surnames - nor are they
> true locative names. In many cases they only indicate where a family's
> seat of power was at some point in time - but the family may carry it
> for some period of time and it does help identify someone as being from
> a particular family.
>
> Even the term "of" as opposed to "de" which some use alternately in
> their genealogy can be an important term - if used correctly they can
> indicate a time period for the individual so called. (And of course
> there is always the debate about what to do with the Welsh Ab and Ap or
> Verch and Ferch in the name field.)
>
> I know what I do with these terms - and my guess is that others treat
> them differently.
>
> That's what's nice about Legacy.  It can be molded for a person's
> personal tastes and needs.  As with most genealogy, there is nothing
> iron-clad.
>
> Jackie
>
> On 2/12/2012 4:22 PM, Jerry wrote:
> > Hard to understand why you wouldn't use a residence event and you could 
> > forget the "OF."  If "OF" has been used correctly, it ALWAYS means the 
> > person lived there.  Jerry
> >
> > Carl Cox  wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> < >> there is no Event and no Source!>>
> >>
> >> The software I use on my web site requires a GEDCOM input, and does not
> >> handle events and sources well, if at all. I strive for accuracy, but if
> >> anyone desires more details, I am glad to supply them. I chose my
> >> display software because it displays much like Legacy, with families,
> >> notes, ancestors and descendants. The family who looks at the web site
> >> are mostly interested in the content, not the provenance. Also, the new
> >> FamilySearch web site is not yet ready for sources, and probably will
> >> never accept events, unless a new GEDCOM standard is accepted.
> >>
> >> A census does not give the birthplace, except for the state, so if you
> >> feel justified in putting the city and you cannot find birth evidence,
> >> it is more accurate to use 'of'.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >>
> >>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?

2012-02-12 Thread gambol
Laura, Yes,  The information is carried forward from FTM to Legacy and
appears in the . It seems that the check boxes, Assigned Sources> Edit
Detail> Tag/Comments, are not auto populated. In my example only the
source name appears in the narrative report. If the check boxes are
selected, the source name and detail appear. I purchased Legacy v7.5
Deluxe upgrade and opted for the download verses the CD and so far all
other functions work perfectly.



On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 16:22:43 -0600 Laura Johnson
 writes:
> Leonard,
>
> I am a previous user of FTM16 (and still do a gedcom backwards to  the
> program for various charts, etc that Legacy does not do).
>
> All fields of the source transferred correctly to Legacy from the FTM16
gedcom.  Did you use the
> following gedcom options when exporting the file?
>
> Destination:FTW
> Gedcom: 5.5
> Character set: Ansi
> Abbreviated tags check marked


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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?

2012-02-12 Thread Ward Walker
I logged a bug in June, 2010 (ticket [04A-13A13DF1-6EE4]) that sounds very
similar to this, if I understand correctly. In my case, I was testing the
export from Legacy and then re-import to Legacy. The source database has a
mixture of Basic and SourceWriter sources.

The problem was with the checkbox that says "Add this Detail to the Source
Citation on Reports". This is an option in Legacy for Basic sources, and the
export and re-import work fine when checked. However, there is no such user
option for individual SourceWriter sources. (Yes, there is for the
Text/Comments tab, but not for the source details tab.) For SW sources, any
populated source detail fields are critical and such an option would make no
sense. The bug was that the import, which can only create Basic style
sources, did not automatically turn on this flag for those sources that had
originated as SourceWriter sources, and thus those sources had incomplete
citations in the target database.

Setting the global default in Options > Customize > Sources is also not the
answer, since this would mess up any Basic sources for which you don't want
the source detail text included. My workaround, in fact, was to revisit as
many of my Basic sources as possible and remove any text from the Source
Detail field that I didn't want to see on the citations. Then I could at
least set the global default.

Does this sound like the same bug?

Of course, mashing a SourceWriter style of source (or the equivalent in
another system) into a Basic source will still garble the order of the
contents of the citation, even if all the information is present. The extent
of the garbling depends on the template. But at least the content should be
present!

   Ward

- Original Message -
From: "Laura Johnson" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?


Leonard,

I am a previous user of FTM16 (and still do a gedcom backwards to the
program for various charts, etc that Legacy does not do).  My sources
transferred correctly without any problems.  All fields of the source
transferred correctly to Legacy from the FTM16 gedcom.  Did you use the
following gedcom options when exporting the file?
Destination:FTW
Gedcom: 5.5
Character set: Ansi
Abbreviated tags check marked

On 2/12/2012 2:54 PM, gambol wrote:
> Paul and Ron, FTM v16 uses a straight forward two screen templet similar
> to Legacy's basic source approach.  V16 was discontinued in 2008 when
> Ancestry tried to invent the wheel, but there is little difference
> between the two programs when selecting an existing source or
> adding/creating a new source. From FTM v16 to Legacy this part works as
> it should. Both FTM and Legacy require knowledge of correct source
> format. When a source citation is entered from scratch, and not from a
> GEDCOM, the check boxes under the text and comments "add this
> text to the source citation" work and the source and citation information
> appear as they should in the printed reports.
>
> Paul, your comment leads me to believe that Legacy does not automatically
> populate these text/comment boxes when importing a GEDCOM file. It could
> be that FTM does not keep the data in a correctly named GEDCOM field.
> Interestingly, there were not GEDCOM errors noted.
>
> Leonard
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:56:22 -0700 "Paul Gray"
> writes:
>> I can't really comment on the data transfer between FTM and Legacy.
>>
>> But, if I understand you correctly, the missing information is on
>> the edit source detail screen, under the text and/or comments tab.
>> Have you checked, under the text and comments boxes, the "add this
>> text to the source citation" boxes?
>>
>> Paul Gray
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
>> Sent: February-12-12 12:35 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
>>
>> Leonard,
>>
>> Am I correct in thinking that FTM16 has a template system for its
>> sources similar to Legacy’s Source Writer? If so the problem is
>> that a GEDCOM does not recognise the layout – it is the same with
>> the Legacy version. I suspect that the best you can hope for is some
>> sort of Basic Sourcing.
>>
>> Maybe there is someone who has transferred similar files who can
>> advise you, but I cannot think of an easy way round the problem
>>
>>
>> From: gambol
>> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 5:29 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
>>
>> When I import a GEDCOM file from Family Tree Maker v16, the FTM
>> source Citation Page and Citation Text fields do not property appear
>> in the footnote/endnote when generating a Legacy v7.5 narrative
>> report.
>>
>> In Legacy's Show List of Assigned Sources, the page and text
>> information does appear under the Text/Comment tab and in the Source
>> Detail Text and Detail Comments fields, but does not under the

Re: [LegacyUG] Proper placement of place names

2012-02-12 Thread Jackie King

Of course, for those of us who dabble in the medieval, this runs right
into the question of the so-called by- names - the infamous "of
Hereford", "of Gloucester" etc. They aren't true surnames - nor are they
true locative names. In many cases they only indicate where a family's
seat of power was at some point in time - but the family may carry it
for some period of time and it does help identify someone as being from
a particular family.

Even the term "of" as opposed to "de" which some use alternately in
their genealogy can be an important term - if used correctly they can
indicate a time period for the individual so called. (And of course
there is always the debate about what to do with the Welsh Ab and Ap or
Verch and Ferch in the name field.)

I know what I do with these terms - and my guess is that others treat
them differently.

That's what's nice about Legacy.  It can be molded for a person's
personal tastes and needs.  As with most genealogy, there is nothing
iron-clad.

Jackie

On 2/12/2012 4:22 PM, Jerry wrote:
> Hard to understand why you wouldn't use a residence event and you could 
> forget the "OF."  If "OF" has been used correctly, it ALWAYS means the person 
> lived there.  Jerry
>
> Carl Cox  wrote:
>
>>
>> <> there is no Event and no Source!>>
>>
>> The software I use on my web site requires a GEDCOM input, and does not
>> handle events and sources well, if at all. I strive for accuracy, but if
>> anyone desires more details, I am glad to supply them. I chose my
>> display software because it displays much like Legacy, with families,
>> notes, ancestors and descendants. The family who looks at the web site
>> are mostly interested in the content, not the provenance. Also, the new
>> FamilySearch web site is not yet ready for sources, and probably will
>> never accept events, unless a new GEDCOM standard is accepted.
>>
>> A census does not give the birthplace, except for the state, so if you
>> feel justified in putting the city and you cannot find birth evidence,
>> it is more accurate to use 'of'.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?

2012-02-12 Thread Laura Johnson
Leonard,

I am a previous user of FTM16 (and still do a gedcom backwards to the
program for various charts, etc that Legacy does not do).  My sources
transferred correctly without any problems.  All fields of the source
transferred correctly to Legacy from the FTM16 gedcom.  Did you use the
following gedcom options when exporting the file?
Destination:FTW
Gedcom: 5.5
Character set: Ansi
Abbreviated tags check marked

On 2/12/2012 2:54 PM, gambol wrote:
> Paul and Ron, FTM v16 uses a straight forward two screen templet similar
> to Legacy's basic source approach.  V16 was discontinued in 2008 when
> Ancestry tried to invent the wheel, but there is little difference
> between the two programs when selecting an existing source or
> adding/creating a new source. From FTM v16 to Legacy this part works as
> it should. Both FTM and Legacy require knowledge of correct source
> format. When a source citation is entered from scratch, and not from a
> GEDCOM, the check boxes under the text and comments "add this
> text to the source citation" work and the source and citation information
> appear as they should in the printed reports.
>
> Paul, your comment leads me to believe that Legacy does not automatically
> populate these text/comment boxes when importing a GEDCOM file. It could
> be that FTM does not keep the data in a correctly named GEDCOM field.
> Interestingly, there were not GEDCOM errors noted.
>
> Leonard
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:56:22 -0700 "Paul Gray"
> writes:
>> I can't really comment on the data transfer between FTM and Legacy.
>>
>> But, if I understand you correctly, the missing information is on
>> the edit source detail screen, under the text and/or comments tab.
>> Have you checked, under the text and comments boxes, the "add this
>> text to the source citation" boxes?
>>
>> Paul Gray
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
>> Sent: February-12-12 12:35 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
>>
>> Leonard,
>>
>> Am I correct in thinking that FTM16 has a template system for its
>> sources similar to Legacy’s Source Writer? If so the problem is
>> that a GEDCOM does not recognise the layout – it is the same with
>> the Legacy version. I suspect that the best you can hope for is some
>> sort of Basic Sourcing.
>>
>> Maybe there is someone who has transferred similar files who can
>> advise you, but I cannot think of an easy way round the problem
>>
>>
>> From: gambol
>> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 5:29 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
>>
>> When I import a GEDCOM file from Family Tree Maker v16, the FTM
>> source Citation Page and Citation Text fields do not property appear
>> in the footnote/endnote when generating a Legacy v7.5 narrative
>> report.
>>
>> In Legacy's Show List of Assigned Sources, the page and text
>> information does appear under the Text/Comment tab and in the Source
>> Detail Text and Detail Comments fields, but does not under the
>> Output tab. The result is when viewing a narrative report, the
>> footnote/endnote appears with only the Source List Name. The Detail
>> Text information does not, which of course is needed to located the
>> detail information within the source.
>>
>> An example of one of my  FTM file census citations: Census, 1900 CT,
>> New Haven Co, Waterbury Township, District 418, p.8, date, state.
>> In Legacy's narrative report only the source, Census, 1900 CT,
>> appears.
>>
>> MY work-around is to copy the Detail Text to the Source Detail field
>> on a source citation by source citation basis. This is acceptable
>> for a small file, but not for my family file with 40,000 +
>> individuals; each with an average of three source citations per
>> person.  Is there an option I am missing, or is this an anomaly with
>> FTM's GEDCOM file generation algorithm.
>>
>>
>> Is there help?
>>
>> Leonard Middlebrooks
>>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Proper placement of place names

2012-02-12 Thread Jerry
Hard to understand why you wouldn't use a residence event and you could forget 
the "OF."  If "OF" has been used correctly, it ALWAYS means the person lived 
there.  Jerry

Carl Cox  wrote:

>
>
>>
>
>The software I use on my web site requires a GEDCOM input, and does not
>handle events and sources well, if at all. I strive for accuracy, but if
>anyone desires more details, I am glad to supply them. I chose my
>display software because it displays much like Legacy, with families,
>notes, ancestors and descendants. The family who looks at the web site
>are mostly interested in the content, not the provenance. Also, the new
>FamilySearch web site is not yet ready for sources, and probably will
>never accept events, unless a new GEDCOM standard is accepted.
>
>A census does not give the birthplace, except for the state, so if you
>feel justified in putting the city and you cannot find birth evidence,
>it is more accurate to use 'of'.
>
>Carl
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?

2012-02-12 Thread Paul Gray
Hi again,

Trying to understand exactly what the import has done.

Is your Master Source in Legacy just -->  Census, 1900 CT?  And, is this 
consistent with the FTM equivalent of Master Source, or is your FTM master 
source at a lower level e.g. including county, township, district?

Is there any information in source detail at all, or is all of the detail in 
text and or comments?

I am trying to get at whether the information in Legacy is in the same spot as 
it would be if you were inputting it from scratch. I suspect not, as the 
information you are copying from the detail text to source detail seems like it 
should have been in source detail all along.

So, is the real issue (ignoring for now the cause) that Legacy ends up with 
what should be in source detail in the source detail text field.

Paul Gray


-Original Message-
From: gambol [mailto:gam...@juno.com]
Sent: February-12-12 1:55 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?

Paul and Ron, FTM v16 uses a straight forward two screen templet similar to 
Legacy's basic source approach.  V16 was discontinued in 2008 when Ancestry 
tried to invent the wheel, but there is little difference between the two 
programs when selecting an existing source or adding/creating a new source. 
From FTM v16 to Legacy this part works as it should. Both FTM and Legacy 
require knowledge of correct source format. When a source citation is entered 
from scratch, and not from a GEDCOM, the check boxes under the text and 
comments "add this text to the source citation" work and the source and 
citation information appear as they should in the printed reports.

Paul, your comment leads me to believe that Legacy does not automatically 
populate these text/comment boxes when importing a GEDCOM file. It could be 
that FTM does not keep the data in a correctly named GEDCOM field.
Interestingly, there were not GEDCOM errors noted.

Leonard




On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:56:22 -0700 "Paul Gray" 
writes:
> I can't really comment on the data transfer between FTM and Legacy.
>
> But, if I understand you correctly, the missing information is on the
> edit source detail screen, under the text and/or comments tab.
> Have you checked, under the text and comments boxes, the "add this
> text to the source citation" boxes?
>
> Paul Gray
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
> Sent: February-12-12 12:35 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
>
> Leonard,
>
> Am I correct in thinking that FTM16 has a template system for its
> sources similar to Legacy’s Source Writer? If so the problem is that a
> GEDCOM does not recognise the layout – it is the same with the Legacy
> version. I suspect that the best you can hope for is some sort of
> Basic Sourcing.
>
> Maybe there is someone who has transferred similar files who can
> advise you, but I cannot think of an easy way round the problem
>
>
> From: gambol
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 5:29 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
>
> When I import a GEDCOM file from Family Tree Maker v16, the FTM source
> Citation Page and Citation Text fields do not property appear in the
> footnote/endnote when generating a Legacy v7.5 narrative report.
>
> In Legacy's Show List of Assigned Sources, the page and text
> information does appear under the Text/Comment tab and in the Source
> Detail Text and Detail Comments fields, but does not under the Output
> tab. The result is when viewing a narrative report, the
> footnote/endnote appears with only the Source List Name. The Detail
> Text information does not, which of course is needed to located the
> detail information within the source.
>
> An example of one of my  FTM file census citations: Census, 1900 CT,
> New Haven Co, Waterbury Township, District 418, p.8, date, state.
> In Legacy's narrative report only the source, Census, 1900 CT,
> appears.
>
> MY work-around is to copy the Detail Text to the Source Detail field
> on a source citation by source citation basis. This is acceptable for
> a small file, but not for my family file with 40,000 + individuals;
> each with an average of three source citations per person.  Is there
> an option I am missing, or is this an anomaly with FTM's GEDCOM file
> generation algorithm.
>
>
> Is there help?
>
> Leonard Middlebrooks
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?

2012-02-12 Thread gambol
Paul and Ron, FTM v16 uses a straight forward two screen templet similar
to Legacy's basic source approach.  V16 was discontinued in 2008 when
Ancestry tried to invent the wheel, but there is little difference
between the two programs when selecting an existing source or
adding/creating a new source. From FTM v16 to Legacy this part works as
it should. Both FTM and Legacy require knowledge of correct source
format. When a source citation is entered from scratch, and not from a
GEDCOM, the check boxes under the text and comments "add this
text to the source citation" work and the source and citation information
appear as they should in the printed reports.

Paul, your comment leads me to believe that Legacy does not automatically
populate these text/comment boxes when importing a GEDCOM file. It could
be that FTM does not keep the data in a correctly named GEDCOM field.
Interestingly, there were not GEDCOM errors noted.

Leonard




On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:56:22 -0700 "Paul Gray" 
writes:
> I can't really comment on the data transfer between FTM and Legacy.
>
> But, if I understand you correctly, the missing information is on
> the edit source detail screen, under the text and/or comments tab.
> Have you checked, under the text and comments boxes, the "add this
> text to the source citation" boxes?
>
> Paul Gray
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
> Sent: February-12-12 12:35 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
>
> Leonard,
>
> Am I correct in thinking that FTM16 has a template system for its
> sources similar to Legacy’s Source Writer? If so the problem is
> that a GEDCOM does not recognise the layout – it is the same with
> the Legacy version. I suspect that the best you can hope for is some
> sort of Basic Sourcing.
>
> Maybe there is someone who has transferred similar files who can
> advise you, but I cannot think of an easy way round the problem
>
>
> From: gambol
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 5:29 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
>
> When I import a GEDCOM file from Family Tree Maker v16, the FTM
> source Citation Page and Citation Text fields do not property appear
> in the footnote/endnote when generating a Legacy v7.5 narrative
> report.
>
> In Legacy's Show List of Assigned Sources, the page and text
> information does appear under the Text/Comment tab and in the Source
> Detail Text and Detail Comments fields, but does not under the
> Output tab. The result is when viewing a narrative report, the
> footnote/endnote appears with only the Source List Name. The Detail
> Text information does not, which of course is needed to located the
> detail information within the source.
>
> An example of one of my  FTM file census citations: Census, 1900 CT,
> New Haven Co, Waterbury Township, District 418, p.8, date, state.
> In Legacy's narrative report only the source, Census, 1900 CT,
> appears.
>
> MY work-around is to copy the Detail Text to the Source Detail field
> on a source citation by source citation basis. This is acceptable
> for a small file, but not for my family file with 40,000 +
> individuals; each with an average of three source citations per
> person.  Is there an option I am missing, or is this an anomaly with
> FTM's GEDCOM file generation algorithm.
>
>
> Is there help?
>
> Leonard Middlebrooks
>

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RE: [LegacyUG] Any reports of problems with the latest update??

2012-02-12 Thread Diane
Nannette;



I'm sorry to hear you're having problems too.  I'm glad I had a backup.  
Unfortunately it was an older backup so I lost a some of my recent work, but it 
was better than nothing.  I haven't checked my sources and photos yet.  I hope 
I haven't lost any of them.



From: Nannette Fretwell [mailto:nannet...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:38 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Any reports of problems with the latest update??



Diane, I too had all my source documentation, transcriptions and photos 
stripped away with this last update. Now I'm doing backups after each sourcing 
entry series. What a frustrating situation.



Nannette



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RE: [LegacyUG] Any reports of problems with the latest update??

2012-02-12 Thread Diane
Ron;



Thank you for the reply, but I ran check/repair immediately after noticing the 
problem with the data.  It didn't find any problems.



From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:38 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Any reports of problems with the latest update??



Diane,



I suggest that you run File>File Maintenance>Check Repair, repeatedly until you 
it stops reporting errors, and then check again. Also closing Legacy and 
turning off the machine can sometimes eradicate similar problems. If neither of 
these suggestions work, then please come back to us.



Ron Ferguson

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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?

2012-02-12 Thread Paul Gray
I can't really comment on the data transfer between FTM and Legacy.

But, if I understand you correctly, the missing information is on the edit 
source detail screen, under the text and/or comments tab.

Have you checked, under the text and comments boxes, the "add this text to the 
source citation" boxes?

Paul Gray





From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: February-12-12 12:35 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?

Leonard,

Am I correct in thinking that FTM16 has a template system for its sources 
similar to Legacy’s Source Writer? If so the problem is that a GEDCOM does not 
recognise the layout – it is the same with the Legacy version. I suspect that 
the best you can hope for is some sort of Basic Sourcing.

Maybe there is someone who has transferred similar files who can advise you, 
but I cannot think of an easy way round the problem


From: gambol
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 5:29 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?

When I import a GEDCOM file from Family Tree Maker v16, the FTM source Citation 
Page and Citation Text fields do not property appear in the footnote/endnote 
when generating a Legacy v7.5 narrative report.

In Legacy's Show List of Assigned Sources, the page and text information does 
appear under the Text/Comment tab and in the Source Detail Text and Detail 
Comments fields, but does not under the Output tab. The result is when viewing 
a narrative report, the footnote/endnote appears with only the Source List 
Name. The Detail Text information does not, which of course is needed to 
located the detail information within the source.

An example of one of my  FTM file census citations: Census, 1900 CT, New Haven 
Co, Waterbury Township, District 418, p.8, date, state.
In Legacy's narrative report only the source, Census, 1900 CT, appears.

MY work-around is to copy the Detail Text to the Source Detail field on a 
source citation by source citation basis. This is acceptable for a small file, 
but not for my family file with 40,000 + individuals; each with an average of 
three source citations per person.  Is there an option I am missing, or is this 
an anomaly with FTM's GEDCOM file generation algorithm.


Is there help?

Leonard Middlebrooks


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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?

2012-02-12 Thread Ron Ferguson
Leonard,

Am I correct in thinking that FTM16 has a template system for its sources 
similar to Legacy’s Source Writer? If so the problem is that a GEDCOM does not 
recognise the layout – it is the same with the Legacy version. I suspect that 
the best you can hope for is some sort of Basic Sourcing.

Maybe there is someone who has transferred similar files who can advise you, 
but I cannot think of an easy way round the problem


From: gambol
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 5:29 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?

When I import a GEDCOM file from Family Tree Maker v16, the FTM source Citation 
Page and Citation Text fields do not property appear in the footnote/endnote 
when generating a Legacy v7.5 narrative report.

In Legacy's Show List of Assigned Sources, the page and text information does 
appear under the Text/Comment tab and in the Source Detail Text and Detail 
Comments fields, but does not under the Output tab. The result is when viewing 
a narrative report, the footnote/endnote appears with only the Source List 
Name. The Detail Text information does not, which of course is needed to 
located the detail information within the source.

An example of one of my  FTM file census citations: Census, 1900 CT, New Haven 
Co, Waterbury Township, District 418, p.8, date, state.
In Legacy's narrative report only the source, Census, 1900 CT, appears.

MY work-around is to copy the Detail Text to the Source Detail field on a 
source citation by source citation basis. This is acceptable for a small file, 
but not for my family file with 40,000 + individuals; each with an average of 
three source citations per person.  Is there an option I am missing, or is this 
an anomaly with FTM's GEDCOM file generation algorithm.


Is there help?

Leonard Middlebrooks

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Re: [LegacyUG] Am I totally missing this?

2012-02-12 Thread Kay Fordham
Michele - In the Ancestor Book menu go to Report Options and then format.
You will find Use Short Locations toward the bottom of the left column.

Kay

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Am I totally missing this?


I am doing an Ancestor Book for a friend.  I did 5 generations of his direct
line to get him started.  I am trying to print it out but I can’t find an
option to use the short locations.  I know it has to be there somewhere but
I can’t find it!

michele

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Re: [LegacyUG] Am I totally missing this?

2012-02-12 Thread cranberryfrog
Thank you, Julia

Michele


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I see it under the Format tab of the Report Options (left side, second from
the bottom).
Julia


> From: cranberryf...@cobridge.tv
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Am I totally missing this?
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:52:06 -0500
>
> I am doing an Ancestor Book for a friend.  I did 5 generations of his
> direct line to get him started.  I am trying to print it out but I
> can’t find an option to use the short locations.  I know it has to be
> there somewhere but I can’t find it!
>
> michele
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Am I totally missing this?

2012-02-12 Thread julia _

I see it under the Format tab of the Report Options (left side, second from the 
bottom).
Julia


> From: cranberryf...@cobridge.tv
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Am I totally missing this?
> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:52:06 -0500
>
> I am doing an Ancestor Book for a friend.  I did 5 generations of his
> direct line to get him started.  I am trying to print it out but I
> can’t find an option to use the short locations.  I know it has to be
> there somewhere but I can’t find it!
>
> michele
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Proper placement of place names

2012-02-12 Thread Sherri Hessick
Thank you to all that responded to my question, both privately and via the UG 
mailing list. It was extremely helpful!



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RE: [LegacyUG] Proper placement of place names

2012-02-12 Thread Carl Cox


<>

The software I use on my web site requires a GEDCOM input, and does not
handle events and sources well, if at all. I strive for accuracy, but if
anyone desires more details, I am glad to supply them. I chose my
display software because it displays much like Legacy, with families,
notes, ancestors and descendants. The family who looks at the web site
are mostly interested in the content, not the provenance. Also, the new
FamilySearch web site is not yet ready for sources, and probably will
never accept events, unless a new GEDCOM standard is accepted.

A census does not give the birthplace, except for the state, so if you
feel justified in putting the city and you cannot find birth evidence,
it is more accurate to use 'of'.

Carl


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[LegacyUG] Sourcing Naturalization records

2012-02-12 Thread Brian Lehman
Hello,
I am wondering how others source naturalization records.
There are frequently several pages to an individual's record,
The petition for naturalization, declaration of intentions,oath,witness
statement, the certificate itself etc.
All from many different places throughout the U.S.
Now I am creating an event called Naturalization and adding each
document as a source separately.
So I have up to 5 documents added to the Naturalization event and frankly,
a source for each document is getting quite confusing and redundant.
Example: declaration of intentions from New York,
Texas,California,Louisiana,Washington.
and the same for the other naturalization documents.
I understand each location has its own unique source data
Would it be better or typical to combine each document into one .jpg and
creating one source,
"Eastern District Court of New York Naturalization Records"
rather than
"Petition for Naturalizations of Eastern District Court of New York
Naturalization Records"
"Declaration of Intentions of Eastern District Court of New York
Naturalization Records"
"Oath and Allegiance of Eastern District Court of New York
Naturalization Records"
then the same for the Southern District, and the others states.

I understand its a personal preference, how do others handle this.
Thanks for the advice,
Brian


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Re: [LegacyUG] Flip-Pal scanner stitched image question

2012-02-12 Thread Cathy-0
I use my very old Adobe Photoshop Essentials v. 2 and have no trouble opening 
and editing a stitched photo.

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  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:26 PM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Flip-Pal scanner stitched image question


  Probably off-topic, but... If you have a Flip-Pal scanner and have produced a 
"stitched" file...

  Have you been able to edit that stitched file in your image editor?
  My camera's software hung / crashed when I tried to open the stitched file.
  Just trying to see if anyone else has experienced this phenomenon and can 
help me figure out how to get rid of it.

  Thanks,

  --Paula in Texas
  Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman 
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field 
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle 
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche 
Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams


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Re: [LegacyUG] Proper placement of place names

2012-02-12 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 12/02/2012 04:26, Carl Cox wrote:
>
> My use of my Legacy file must be different from others. The place I am
> using them will not display events nor sources, so I need a way to
> indicate the first place I find a location for a person, and 'of'' works
> well. But I appreciate how others use the Legacy capability.
>
I am intrigued now as to where you are using these "of locations" if
there is no Event and no Source!

--
Jenny M Benson


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