Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?

[Mary Moyer]

Chick

I started converting my SW sources back to Basic about 6 months ago, mainly 
because I saw how mangled they are in transferring via GEDCOM to other 
programs. I've found it best to do it one source at a time. It's possible with 
Basic sources to figure out a way to match EE sources, but it takes a bit of 
forethought to do it. Since I have almost 2,000 sources (and, no, I'm not an 
extreme splitter) almost 50,000 citations, it's taking a lot of time, but I'm 
catching things I'd entered wrong when I first started, so it's worth it.

Mary



-- Original Message --
From: Chick Lewis 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 12:02:15 -0800

I have been following both these threads and have come to the
conclusion that SourceWriter is not all it's cracked up to be.  I
stopped using SW several months ago and have been contemplating
returning to Basic Sources.  After following this discussion, I have
decided to do that. I know most Legacy users are converting their
Basic sources to SW.  I am going to convert mine back to Basic. Any
comments on how best to do that?
Lew

>
> From: gambol 
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Tue, February 14, 2012 6:19:34 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?

> Paula, Thanks. We are sill on topic: getting the source and the text comment
> to appear together in the footnote/endnote.  Footnotes and Endnotes work the
> same, just a matter of where they appear and another one of those personal
> preferences.  I use both depending on how the report in used; when reviewing
> a cousins work it is easier to have the footnotes option on.. This way the
> notes appear on the same page as the event cited.
>
> I solved the import riddle with the help of Ward and others, but have not
> found a solution to subsequent citations not including the text notes. A
> good example would be the 1900 or 1910 census as a source for a persons
> name, birth year and state, and marriage year.  The first usage appears as
> it should with the text, but the two subsequent source citations only appear
> as the source with out the text. One for birth year and state and the other
> for marriage year; two identical entries.   I the same source is used for a
> child, it would appear less the text even if other sources are cited in
> between.
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] How to add illegitimate child

[Jean Suplick]

A child always has a mother and a father. That's the way the world works.
Full stop, as they say.

The father may not be a husband of the mother, lawfully wed and all. Would
you agree?

In the Legacy database, every child is entitled to two parents, which
reflects nature. So far so good. What then, does the Legacy database do to
handle children with two parents that are *not married*? That's the
question, right?

Here's what I do.

The  mother (aka "wife" in Legacy terms) and a father (aka "husband" in
Legacy terms) can have a child. If they are not married, the in the
"marriage" screen, open the Status dropdown list and select "unmarried".

That's what I do. Set the status to unmarried.

To your implied question, give the child the surname that he/she was known
by.

In my case, my grandmother gave her 7  illegitimage children the surname of
her first husband who abandonded her before any of them were born. (She had
2 legitimate children by him before the abandonment.) These are my aunts
and uncles, and I knew most of them. In the 1930's and 1940's they were
given Grandma's surname, i.e. her husband's name, even though he
was provably not their father. It does't matter.That was their name, so
that's the name I put in Legacy. And in Legacy, their father is Grandma's
"husband", but with an unmarried status.

Hope this helps,
Jean Suplick
Plano, Texas


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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Update

[Larry McCumber]

I'm with you Tim.  Actually I would like to go back one release.  7.5.0.112
really screwed up my database.  I now have sources assigned to people who
have nothing to do with that source.  Problem is finding all of these
incorrect assignments.  I have backups before converting to 7.5.0.112, but
don't know how to get back to previous version.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Richard Van Wasshnova <
rfvanwasshn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Tim,
> On 1st computer Legacy Homepage says I have latest build (7.5.0.112).
> Open Legacy on 2nd comp which shows Available  7.5.0.147 with option to
> download it.
> Shut down & restarted 1st comp but still says I have latest v.
> V   7.5.0.147 requires database update - not backward compatible so I'll
> keep old vers on one computer for now.
>
> --
> Richard Van Wasshnova
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Tim Rosenlof wrote:
>
>> v7.5.0.147 - New General Release Builds - 15 February 2012
>> Check your "Legacy Home" Tab
>>
>> --
>> Tim Rosenlof
>> Always Source Your Work
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[LegacyUG] chat notes for brick wall webinar

[unique64 Riley]

I forgot to copy the chat notes from todays "Ten Brick Wall Tips for Beginners" 
webinar. They were so good!  Can anyone share those with me?

Thanks,
Monique

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RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage List

[Morris M. Sonnier]

Hi Brian,

Works great.

Thanks

Morris Sonnier

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:58 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List

Search > Find > Detailed Search
Search for Individuals with Tag 9 Equal to tagged.
With the search list displayed select the Family tab on the right.
If the person is married you will see a button to edit the marriage
You can edit the marriage notes from the marriage edit screen.

Brian
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On 15/02/2012 5:42 PM, M Sonnier wrote:
> I have 129 Records which have junk from a FTM import.  Through a detailed 
> search, I have been able to isolate these files and then designate them in 
> Name List using tag # 9.  I can edit general notes, medical notes, research 
> notes, but I do not see a way to edit the marriage notes.  When I complete 
> each, it takes me back to family view.  I then have to click on Name List and 
> then search all tagged on 9.   It would be nice to have a link on the name 
> list page.  Does anyone know of an easier way?
>
> Morris Sonnier


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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? / controlling subsequent citations

[Michele Lewis]

It was little things on several different types of sources.  I can’t remember 
exactly. I would look it up in the book and then look at how it was in Legacy 
and  it wouldn’t match exactly.  It wasn’t something glaring but small things.  
However, I wanted my sources to be 100% consistent and inline with the Evidence 
Explained book so I hand typed them.  I do know that the subsequent citations 
didn’t match exactly either.  And then there was a problem with non population 
scheduled because they don’t have templates for those anyways.  I remember 
there was a problem with state censuses too.



michele



From: Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:11 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? / controlling 
subsequent citations



Can you share with us which source writer templates produced unsatisfactory 
citations?  Surely, not all of them?

And being these two threads are mainly about the "subsequent" citations - was 
that where the problems were?

Thanks.


--Paula in Texas
Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman 
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field 
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle 
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche 
Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List

[Brian/Support]

Search > Find > Detailed Search
Search for Individuals with Tag 9 Equal to tagged.
With the search list displayed select the Family tab on the right.
If the person is married you will see a button to edit the marriage
You can edit the marriage notes from the marriage edit screen.

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We are changing the world of genealogy!
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Thanks.

On 15/02/2012 5:42 PM, M Sonnier wrote:
> I have 129 Records which have junk from a FTM import.  Through a detailed 
> search, I have been able to isolate these files and then designate them in 
> Name List using tag # 9.  I can edit general notes, medical notes, research 
> notes, but I do not see a way to edit the marriage notes.  When I complete 
> each, it takes me back to family view.  I then have to click on Name List and 
> then search all tagged on 9.   It would be nice to have a link on the name 
> list page.  Does anyone know of an easier way?
>
> Morris Sonnier


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[LegacyUG] Marriage List

[M Sonnier]

I have 129 Records which have junk from a FTM import.  Through a detailed 
search, I have been able to isolate these files and then designate them in Name 
List using tag # 9.  I can edit general notes, medical notes, research notes, 
but I do not see a way to edit the marriage notes.  When I complete each, it 
takes me back to family view.  I then have to click on Name List and then 
search all tagged on 9.   It would be nice to have a link on the name list 
page.  Does anyone know of an easier way?
 
Morris Sonnier

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[LegacyUG] Re: Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

>I just finished my portfolio for the Board for the Certification of
>Genealogists (BCG).  During that process I found that my SW sources did not
>match the Evidence Explained formats exactly and instead of being able to copy
>and paste, I had to hand type them correctly.  I am seriously thinking about
>going back to the Basic so that I can format the sources correctly but I have
>745 sources with God only knows how many referenced to those sources.  There
>are some sources that have over 400 entries.  It would take me YEARS to get
>everything correct.

It's interesting that ESM apparently was a LUG subscriber for a few
months after V7 was released. She has disappeared since.

--

Dennis Kowallek (LTools/Custom Programming)
http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools

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[LegacyUG] Webinar Wednesday - recording of "10 Brick Wall Tips for Beginners" is now online

[Geoff Rasmussen]

Marian Pierre-Louis did a fantastic job today in our webinar. View the
recording (free until Monday, February 27) at
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/webinars.asp. The recording is also available on
her CD (includes 4 pages of handouts) at
http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=WTENBRICK1


See you online on February 29 - "Organizing and Sharing Digital Images."
Register at www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/webinars.asp.

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import? / controlling subsequent citations

[Paula Ryburn]

Can you share with us which source writer templates produced unsatisfactory
citations?  Surely, not all of them?
And being these two threads are mainly about the "subsequent" citations - was
that where the problems were?
Thanks.
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





From: Michele Lewis 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, February 15, 2012 3:05:10 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?

I just finished my portfolio for the Board for the Certification of Genealogists
(BCG).  During that process I found that my SW sources did not match the
Evidence Explained formats exactly and instead of being able to copy and paste,
I had to hand type them correctly.  I am seriously thinking about going back to
the Basic so that I can format the sources correctly but I have 745 sources with
God only knows how many referenced to those sources.  There are some sources
that have over 400 entries.  It would take me YEARS to get everything correct.

michele

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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?

[Michele Lewis]

I just finished my portfolio for the Board for the Certification of 
Genealogists (BCG).  During that process I found that my SW sources did not 
match the Evidence Explained formats exactly and instead of being able to copy 
and paste, I had to hand type them correctly.  I am seriously thinking about 
going back to the Basic so that I can format the sources correctly but I have 
745 sources with God only knows how many referenced to those sources.  There 
are some sources that have over 400 entries.  It would take me YEARS to get 
everything correct.

michele

-Original Message-
From: Chick Lewis [mailto:cglewi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:02 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?

I have been following both these threads and have come to the conclusion that 
SourceWriter is not all it's cracked up to be.  I stopped using SW several 
months ago and have been contemplating returning to Basic Sources.  After 
following this discussion, I have decided to do that. I know most Legacy users 
are converting their Basic sources to SW.  I am going to convert mine back to 
Basic. Any comments on how best to do that?
Lew

>
> From: gambol 
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Tue, February 14, 2012 6:19:34 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?

> Paula, Thanks. We are sill on topic: getting the source and the text
> comment to appear together in the footnote/endnote.  Footnotes and
> Endnotes work the same, just a matter of where they appear and another
> one of those personal preferences.  I use both depending on how the
> report in used; when reviewing a cousins work it is easier to have the
> footnotes option on.. This way the notes appear on the same page as the event 
> cited.
>
> I solved the import riddle with the help of Ward and others, but have
> not found a solution to subsequent citations not including the text
> notes. A good example would be the 1900 or 1910 census as a source for
> a persons name, birth year and state, and marriage year.  The first
> usage appears as it should with the text, but the two subsequent
> source citations only appear as the source with out the text. One for
> birth year and state and the other for marriage year; two identical
> entries.   I the same source is used for a child, it would appear less
> the text even if other sources are cited in between.
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Problem

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Colin,

> In my case there are no half marriages or broken ;line in the descent from
> ym g grandmother to  me and in the case of my cousin, I am fairly positive
> there are none in her line  but I will cjeck again.
> I have run Check and Repair with no improvement so my next step is to check
> with my cousin that there are no half marriages in her line, that there is a
> direct line from her gg grandmother to her.

It is your Legacy database that is telling you there is a
half-relationship.  Concentrate on that - if indeed there is no genuine
half-relationship in reality, your cousin is going to be very confused
about what you're asking.  Then again, they may know exactly what you're
talking about and point you to the person concerned (and you didn't
notice when you were inputting the information, or forgot).

Try bringing up the Marriage List (View > Marriage List) and check
through each ancestor that you have in common with the line that is
"half" according to your database.  Do any of them have more than one
spouse?

Hope this helps.  :-)

Wendy


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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?

[Chick Lewis]

I have been following both these threads and have come to the
conclusion that SourceWriter is not all it's cracked up to be.  I
stopped using SW several months ago and have been contemplating
returning to Basic Sources.  After following this discussion, I have
decided to do that. I know most Legacy users are converting their
Basic sources to SW.  I am going to convert mine back to Basic. Any
comments on how best to do that?
Lew

>
> From: gambol 
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Tue, February 14, 2012 6:19:34 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?

> Paula, Thanks. We are sill on topic: getting the source and the text comment
> to appear together in the footnote/endnote.  Footnotes and Endnotes work the
> same, just a matter of where they appear and another one of those personal
> preferences.  I use both depending on how the report in used; when reviewing
> a cousins work it is easier to have the footnotes option on.. This way the
> notes appear on the same page as the event cited.
>
> I solved the import riddle with the help of Ward and others, but have not
> found a solution to subsequent citations not including the text notes. A
> good example would be the 1900 or 1910 census as a source for a persons
> name, birth year and state, and marriage year.  The first usage appears as
> it should with the text, but the two subsequent source citations only appear
> as the source with out the text. One for birth year and state and the other
> for marriage year; two identical entries.   I the same source is used for a
> child, it would appear less the text even if other sources are cited in
> between.
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] Producing search list

[Jean Suplick]

Sweet!  Now why didn't I think of that?  Thanks, Ron!

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Ron Ferguson
wrote:

>Jean,
>
> If you tag all those with an SSDI with, say,  tag1 then search for all
> those where tag1 is equal to untagged, you will have those you are looking
> for.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] What name to use?

[Jerry]

Here's my thinking on it, Paula, trying to explain as briefly as
possible.  Quite often when you go to a genealogy website, the first
thing you do is pull up the master person list to check for your
possible ancestors.  On many websites (if not most), you will see the
very top of the list will begin with those that ONLY have first names
like a bunch of Andrews, Sarahs, Williams, the word UNKNOWN that lots of
people use, etc.

The FIRST NAME ONLYs are generally at the very top of the index and they
basically tell you nothing meaningful unless there are also columns for
the spouse or parents.  So, I wanted to provide a possible eye-catching
list that always has a FIRST NAME and a SURNAME.  Neither of them are
ever blank because I use as much information as I have to describe the
missing pieces of the puzzle.  Whether it will eventually work to get
people to respond with the right information, we are not sure yet, but
at least it looks more organized and is easier to go through our list.
I have at least enough information to know that a complete father or
mother, sister or brother's name is missing or, of course, I would leave
it completely blank.

With that type of system,  I can easily filter a list of all my unknown
names because a ? always appears in the FIRSTNAME field.  You can get a
better idea of what I mean by going to our website (username = FullGuest
and password = merriam), and sorting on contains ? for the FIRSTNAME
field.  It depends on what is missing as to where the ? appears, but if
the Given Name is missing we use Given Name ? and if the entire name is
missing we use Name ?, etc.   I know the purists on here think that is
horrible, but I'm trying to use the computer database in the most
organized way I can with the information I have.  I hope that makes a
little bit of sense anyway.

Sincerely,
Jerry Boor - MerriamFamilyTree.org

On 02/15/2012 11:43 AM, Paula Ryburn wrote:
> Admittedly, I do not use the webpage-generation feature, but if
> they're unknown, what's the point of including them as specific
> individuals?  I guess you must have one piece of information on each
> individual that made you decide to add them...?  Otherwise, there's
> not any value in having the actual Individual record in your
> database...?  Yes, please do point out the error in my thinking!  It
> may just be a preference thing.
> --Paula in Texas
> Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton
> Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody
> Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale
> Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald
> Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer
> Sullivan Weller Williams
>
>
> 
> *From:* Jerry 
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Sent:* Tue, February 14, 2012 6:04:57 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] What name to use?
>
> Very good pointt, Paula, but on our website we have hundreds of
> unknowns, both
>
> Paula Ryburn  > wrote:
>
> >Depends on how you do your research.  I do mine by family, working
> steadily
> >backwards, so I rarely use the Name list.
> >
> >Also, I just last night accidentally discovered I can set more than 3
> bookmarks
> >for individuals woo hoo! ;)  Legacy is still full of surprises
> for me.
> >
> >I guess what I'm saying is:  If you are constantly trying to find the
> same one
> >or two "Unknown Smith" individuals, bookmark them and don't worry
> about making
> >up something to make them stand out in the Name list.
> > --Paula in Texas
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Legacy Update

[Tim Rosenlof]

v7.5.0.147 - New General Release Builds - 15 February 2012
Check your "Legacy Home" Tab

--
Tim Rosenlof
Always Source Your Work


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Re: [LegacyUG] Controlling Subsequent Citation Details [WAS: Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?]

[Paula Ryburn]

Aha... I use the census source writer templates.  Explains a bit of our
disconnect.  But maybe part of the reason your endnotes consume so many pages is
your desire to have a citation print for every field sourced on an individual?
 Well, again it does boil down to personal preference, and I think you will like
Legacy's flexibility.
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





From: gambol 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tue, February 14, 2012 7:02:18 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Controlling Subsequent Citation Details [WAS:  Legacy
7.5 and source citation import?]

Ward, I just responded to Paula on Subsequent Citation Details and yes, I
should have changed to a new tread.

I have been using the Basic Source templates and not the SourceWriter.
This is my first serious attempt in becoming familiar with Legacy, but
the SourceWriter is similar to that used in FTM. Both yield a bloated
foot/endnote.  I have one database that yields 35 pages of endnotes with
nearly all being one line.  The templet approach would considerable
considerably more pages and be harder to follow for the less experienced.


I am at a decision point with FamilyTreeMaker.  Either I change programs,
and Legacy looks to be the best option, or build a state-of-the-art XP
machine and stay with v16 of FTM.  FTM v16 is not stable in Vista and
researchers with Win7 say forget it. Latter version of FTM are similar to
RootsMagic and designed around marketing, not ease of use.

So much for the soap box. Would you point me to the 2009 archives and I
will see if I can master the master and detail files.

Thanks for your help,
Leonard

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?

[Paula Ryburn]

Leonard, If I am reading you correctly, I don't go so far as to indicate in the
census detail citation which piece(s) of information are supported.  I mean, I
attach the detail citation to the pieces / fields that are supported, but I am
not trying to print that out.  I have the little source citation number next to
the field in the report (I'm mostly using FGR these days) and the detail census
citation on the source page at the end.  For example, for a new sibling of one
of my direct line ancestors, I would typically cite the census on the name and
birth date/place fields, plus I would add a census event (I write all the other
info in a narrative fashion in the Notes:  "She was 12 years old, and attended
school that year.").  I typically have other/more citations on the name and
birth date/place for those in my direct line, so the census may have just been
the starting point for the year and state.  Definitely, the new siblings would
have a date range based on the age and the census date (except 1900 where the
month & year of birth are given) and a state.  I may or may not pursue more
information on the siblings.

Wow, got a bit wordy!

Oh, if I were running a book report (ancestor, descendent), the citations do
include the head of household, so that keeps them separate... not all lumped
into one "US 1900 Illinois Cook Co." citation, for example.  (I don't lump
further than county.)
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





From: gambol 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tue, February 14, 2012 6:19:34 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?


Paula, Thanks. We are sill on topic: getting the source and the text comment to
appear together in the footnote/endnote.  Footnotes and Endnotes work the same,
just a matter of where they appear and another one of those personal
preferences.  I use both depending on how the report in used; when reviewing a
cousins work it is easier to have the footnotes option on.. This way the notes
appear on the same page as the event cited.

I solved the import riddle with the help of Ward and others, but have not found
a solution to subsequent citations not including the text notes. A good example
would be the 1900 or 1910 census as a source for a persons name, birth year
and state, and marriage year.  The first usage appears as it should with the
text, but the two subsequent source citations only appear as the source with out
the text. One for birth year and state and the other for marriage year; two
identical entries.   I the same source is used for a child, it would appear less
the text even if other sources are cited in between.

How would the above citations appear on your end.  I down loaded my deluxe
version of Legacy and am operating on a Vista machine with SP2 and max memory.

Leonard
Researching: Middlebrooks [all 39+ variations], Fullerton, Burkett, Williams


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Re: [LegacyUG] Sharpen Your Pencils

[Paula Ryburn]

Can "just anyone" volunteer?
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





From: Jackie King 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, February 15, 2012 12:00:39 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sharpen Your Pencils

Images of the 1940 census will be available free through a variety of
sources however without indexes. Three sites are combining resources to
provide indexing through a volunteer effort. This was released last December
-

SALT LAKE CITY—Three leading genealogy organizations, Archives.com,
FamilySearch International, and findmypast.com, announced today they are   
joining forces to launch the 1940 US Census Community Project. The ambitious
project aims to engage online volunteers to quickly publish a searchable,
high quality name index to the 1940 US Census after it is released in April
2012 by the National Archives and Record Administration of the United States
(NARA).

Indexing will be done much like the indexing is now being done through
FamilySearch for its microfilms. The indexes will also be made available
free - but with such a mammoth project, don't expect to find your relatives
the first day the census is released. The more volunteers, the quicker a
full searchable index will be available.

Cheers -

Jackie

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sharpen Your Pencils

[Paula Ryburn]

Thx, Paul.  I like your program.  Additional names on females is great!
 Although I think I have very few if any "mysteries" left to solve in the 1940
time-frame.
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





From: Paul R. 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tue, February 14, 2012 4:49:30 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sharpen Your Pencils

I'm ready.  532 names in my Legacy DB to find.

I have updated my program that reads the Legacy DB and displays the
census status of individuals.  The biggest update is the addition of an
option to add the married name to females.  Previously the program only
displayed the maiden names.

If you want to see how many people you need to find in the 1940 census,
just run the program specifying only 1940 in the Census Dates field.

You can download the program from:
https://sites.google.com/site/promanowiczsite/censusfinder

If you have any question or suggestions for the program, please reply to
me directly so we don't clutter up the forum.

Thanks,
Paul

On 2/14/2012 1:14 PM, Tim Rosenlof wrote:
> Records Released in 48 Days!
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sharpen Your Pencils

[Paula Ryburn]

Thx, Laird.  Indexed censuses, I hope.  Heritage Quest has 1830-50 as
browse-only.
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





From: Laird 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tue, February 14, 2012 11:55:35 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sharpen Your Pencils

You can get free 1790 through 1930 Census images (as well as many other things)
here:
http://www.archive.org/mediatypes-browse.php?mediatype=texts

I would guess they will have the 1940 Census at some point.
Laird

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RE: [LegacyUG] Producing search list

[Bobby Johnson]

Carol,



You can find people in the SSDI with birthdates as early as 1874.  Although 
they are few of them, it just might be that they are there.  You may not find 
many that died before 1940 or even 1961 but there are a few.  The death index 
was not computerized until the early 1960’s  Entries before that time are 
spotty.  Another thing is that self-employed people such as farmers were not 
required to get a SSN until the early 1950’s.  You should go ahead and tag 
these people and give them a quick check to see if they are there.



Bobby



From: cr brassfield [mailto:crbrassfi...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:03 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Producing search list



Bobby

Part 1 first section
Why have you put 1873?

I can understand 1935 in 2nd section as SS only started in a limited way then 
but I don't understand after 1873 for birth date.
My husband's grandfather was born in 1870 and died in 1965 and is shown in 
SSDI. It's not a mistype as I have a copy of his SS application form.
Or have I misunderstood your system?

Carol



  _

From: b...@brmemc.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Producing search list
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:16:45 -0500

Here is my way of finding those who may be included in the SSDI and have not 
been found or entered into Legacy.



Detailed Search



Part 1



Look for whom? Individual

Where to look? Birth Date

How to look? After

What to look for? 1873



second condition (and)



Look for whom? Individual

Where to look? Death Date

How to look? After

What to look for? 1935



Third condition (and)



Look for whom? Individual

Where to look? Living

How to look? Equal To

What to look for? NO



Clear List before this search



This will give you a list of individuals that might have been eligible for SSDI.



Create list



Part 2



Look for whom? Individual

Where to look? Birth Date

How to look? After

What to look for? 1873



second condition (and)



Look for whom? Individual

Where to look? Death Date

How to look? equal to

What to look for? leave blank



no third condition



Add results to existing list



This will add those for whom you have no death date.



Now tag the list with a tag of your choice



Part 3



Look for whom? Individual

Where to look? Master Source

How to look? Contains

What to look for? Enter a part your of the SSDI Master source name. Example:SSDI



No second and third conditions



Clear list before searching



Create list and untag your tag choice above and the remaining tagged list will 
be those who are likely to be in the SSDI whom you have not entered the SSDI 
source for.



Bobby





From: Jean Suplick [mailto:jean.supl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:54 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Producing search list



I want to conduct a Social Security Death Index search blitz and try to locate 
entries for all the eligible people in my database who don't already have an 
existing source citation for the SSDI. So...



I'd like to produce a search list of all the people in my database with 2 
conditions:



   1. They died after 1950 (or some death year)

   2. They do not already have a source citation for the Social Security Death 
Index



I can produce a list of those that already HAVE the SSDI source citation, but I 
can't figure out how to produce a list for those who DO NOT HAVE the source 
citation.



I am using the Search --> Find --> Detailed Search screen.



Any ideas?



Thanks,

Jean Suplick

Plano, Texas





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Re: [LegacyUG] Controlling Subsequent Citation Details [WAS: Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?]

[Ward Walker]

It had been my understanding that subsequent citations only apply to
SourceWriter sources. A quick look at the previews of some of my sources
initially appeared to confirm this. However, I now see that text entered on
the Text/Comments tab of a Basic source detail, with the checkbox checked to
include such text on citations, does disappear for subsequent citations. (I
normally use these fields for internal information, only, not for printed
citations.)

So, now I understand that your initial request was to have these Basic,
Detail, Text/Comment fields appear on subseqent citations, so that you could
place different information in each citation. All I can suggest is that you
change what you are placing on this tab, as compared to the first tab (the
Source Detail field on the Detail Information tab). I.e., for each source
detail, append the custom information (e.g., person's name) to the end of
the always-print information (e.g., county, twp, ED#) in the Source Detail
field. Don't print anything from the Text/Comment tab, which is where you
fully record the census family for future reference. Would this work for
you?

As for the state and year, it depends on how much you are a 'lumper' or
'splitter'. For me, these are part of the master source and will always
print. Even if you are an extreme lumper, I would think that the state and
year should be present in every citation (from the detail, in this case).

You are saying that a SourceWriter citation is more verbose than a Basic
source citation. Presumably the difference is not in the data that you type
in, but in the fixed fields. For example, in census templates we see the
publisher "National Archives and Records Administration" fully spelled out
and hardcoded. Also the term "population schedule". But note that in the
subsequent citation, the publisher disappears and "pop. sch." is
abbreviated. The web site, URL, series, and the term "digital images" also
disappear. I can understand that your Basic source citations are briefer
than the equivalent SourceWriter version on the initial citation, but the
subsequent citation seems pretty bare-bones to me.

Another quick test reveals that the endnotes bug is still present:
subsequent citations are used in footnotes but not in endnotes! This was
reported over 3 years ago.

The links to the archives are at the bottom of each LUG e-mail. There are
many discussions about lumping/splitting, and a few about subsequent
citations.

   Ward

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Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Controlling Subsequent Citation Details [WAS: Legacy
7.5 and source citation import?]


Ward, I just responded to Paula on Subsequent Citation Details and yes, I
should have changed to a new tread.

I have been using the Basic Source templates and not the SourceWriter.
This is my first serious attempt in becoming familiar with Legacy, but
the SourceWriter is similar to that used in FTM. Both yield a bloated
foot/endnote.  I have one database that yields 35 pages of endnotes with
nearly all being one line.  The templet approach would considerable
considerably more pages and be harder to follow for the less experienced.


I am at a decision point with FamilyTreeMaker.  Either I change programs,
and Legacy looks to be the best option, or build a state-of-the-art XP
machine and stay with v16 of FTM.  FTM v16 is not stable in Vista and
researchers with Win7 say forget it. Latter version of FTM are similar to
RootsMagic and designed around marketing, not ease of use.

So much for the soap box. Would you point me to the 2009 archives and I
will see if I can master the master and detail files.

Thanks for your help,
Leonard




On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:56:05 -0500 "Ward Walker" 
writes:
> Leonard,
>
> We had a lot of discussion about Subsequent Citations a while back.
> I think March of 2009 might be the most recent. I don't know if
anything has
> changed  in Legacy. I know I logged some requests.
>
> Think of a template-driven (i.e., SourceWriter) citation as
> consisting of 4
> groupings of fields:
>   - master fields that always appear
>   - master fields that disappear on subsequent citations
>   - detail fields that always appear
>   - detail fields that disappear on subsequent citations
>
> The same fields appear, or not, on each subsequent citation of a
> given master source. If you understand which ones do so, for a
particular
> SourceWriter template, then you can fudge your data accordingly. By
> 'fudge', I mean sometimes placing a text value in a different field
than the
> one  suggested by the template.
>
> Does this help you to engineer your detail citations such that you
> see the desired different detail fields in your footnotes?
>
>Ward
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Paula Ryburn
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 1:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 and source citation import?
>
>
> Leonard, I may be off-bas

RE: [LegacyUG] Producing search list

[cr brassfield]

Bobby

Part 1 first section
Why have you put 1873?

I can understand 1935 in 2nd section as SS only started in a limited way then 
but I don't understand after 1873 for birth date.
My husband's grandfather was born in 1870 and died in 1965 and is shown in 
SSDI. It's not a mistype as I have a copy of his SS application form.
Or have I misunderstood your system?

Carol


From: b...@brmemc.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Producing search list
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 11:16:45 -0500



Here is my way of finding those who may be included in the SSDI and have not 
been found or entered into Legacy. Detailed Search Part 1 Look for whom? 
IndividualWhere to look? Birth DateHow to look? AfterWhat to look for? 1873 
second condition (and) Look for whom? IndividualWhere to look? Death DateHow to 
look? AfterWhat to look for? 1935 Third condition (and) Look for whom? 
IndividualWhere to look? LivingHow to look? Equal ToWhat to look for? NO Clear 
List before this search This will give you a list of individuals that might 
have been eligible for SSDI. Create list Part 2 Look for whom? IndividualWhere 
to look? Birth DateHow to look? AfterWhat to look for? 1873 second condition 
(and) Look for whom? IndividualWhere to look? Death DateHow to look? equal 
toWhat to look for? leave blank no third condition Add results to existing list 
This will add those for whom you have no death date. Now tag the list with a 
tag of your choice Part 3 Look for whom? IndividualWhere to look? Master 
SourceHow to look? ContainsWhat to look for? Enter a part your of the SSDI 
Master source name. Example:SSDI No second and third conditions Clear list 
before searching Create list and untag your tag choice above and the remaining 
tagged list will be those who are likely to be in the SSDI whom you have not 
entered the SSDI source for.  Bobby  From: Jean Suplick 
[mailto:jean.supl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:54 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Producing search list I want to conduct a Social Security 
Death Index search blitz and try to locate entries for all the eligible people 
in my database who don't already have an existing source citation for the SSDI. 
So... I'd like to produce a search list of all the people in my database with 2 
conditions:1. They died after 1950 (or some death year)   2. They do not 
already have a source citation for the Social Security Death Index I can 
produce a list of those that already HAVE the SSDI source citation, but I can't 
figure out how to produce a list for those who DO NOT HAVE the source citation. 
I am using the Search --> Find --> Detailed Search screen.  Any ideas? 
Thanks,Jean SuplickPlano, Texas


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RE: [LegacyUG] Colonial Secretary's Papers and Source Writer

[cr brassfield]

Ron

I stand corrected although having just taken a look at the templates I think I 
prefer the system I have set up. That though is probably just a personal 
preference for a system I have got used to using.

Carol


From: ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Colonial Secretary's Papers and Source Writer
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:58:50 +











Carol,

Your comment that Source Writer is only suitable
for American Sources is incorrect. There are specific templates for BMDs and
censuses for the constituent countries of the British Isles.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/



From: cr brassfield
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:48 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Colonial Secretary's Papers and Source
Writer


Megan

I'm in the U.K. and do research worldwide - my late
husband was American and I have 2 One-Name Studies that include people in Europe
and Commonwealth especially.
Because I have been using Legacy since before
Source Writer was created I find that it's best to use that for U.S. sources
only as that it what it has been designed for.
For me it's much better to
create my own source system for all other records
I do cite the whole CSP
collection as a Master Source. In the 'Text of Source' and 'Comments' I put
basic info of types of resources/sections included in the collection. In the
'Source Detail' I can then add all the individual detail for the section I am
referring to.


Carol






Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:29:23 -0800
From:
mmhitch...@yahoo.com.au
Subject: [LegacyUG] Colonial Secretary's Papers and
Source Writer
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com



Hi


I am new to this group, and a little nervous, but hopefully I get
this right.


I am wondering if anyone has entered NSW Colonial Secretary's Papers
as a source in Legacy. I have found a number of supporting documents in this
collection but am unsure how to enter it in Source Writer as there doesn't seem
to be a category that fits.


The Colonial Secretary's Papers contains records for the Colony of
New South Wales, Australia from 1784-1821, and a mixed bag it is. There are
convict lists, assignment of convicts, victualling, land grants, memoranda,
copies of all official correspondence within the colony, between NSW and other
colonies and between NSW and other governments, and more besides. This makes it
hard to find a category to put the Papers into when making a Master
Source.



So, do I have to break it down into component parts, or is there a
way to refer to the whole collection as a Master Source? Has anyone had any
experience with this, and, if so, how did you approach it?


Cheerio
Megan Hitchens

You can feel compassion regardless of whether you view the other person as
a friend or an enemy. It is based on the other's fundamental rights rather than
your own mental projection. - the 14th Dalai Lama


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Re: [LegacyUG] What name to use?

[Paula Ryburn]

Good point, Mike.  I had a picture of "missing spouse" in mind as I was reading
these posts.  Thanks.
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





From: Mike Fry 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, February 15, 2012 2:25:53 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What name to use?

On 2012/02/15 04:19, R G Strong-genes wrote:

> Actually all you have to do in Family view is right click on the person and
> then pick the menu item Add>brother or sister

Brother and Sister as options aren't enabled unless there is at least one
parent. You can't move him down into the children's area unless there's at least
one parent. Double-clicking on the blank mother or father 'creates' the missing
parents as unknowns. Then you ad the brother or sister and move him down into
the children's area.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg

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Re: [LegacyUG] What name to use?

[Paula Ryburn]

Admittedly, I do not use the webpage-generation feature, but if they're unknown,
what's the point of including them as specific individuals?  I guess you must
have one piece of information on each individual that made you decide to add
them...?  Otherwise, there's not any value in having the actual Individual
record in your database...?  Yes, please do point out the error in my thinking!
 It may just be a preference thing.
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams





From: Jerry 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tue, February 14, 2012 6:04:57 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What name to use?

Very good pointt, Paula, but on our website we have hundreds of unknowns, both

Paula Ryburn  wrote:

>Depends on how you do your research.  I do mine by family, working steadily
>backwards, so I rarely use the Name list.
>
>Also, I just last night accidentally discovered I can set more than 3 bookmarks
>for individuals woo hoo! ;)  Legacy is still full of surprises for me.
>
>I guess what I'm saying is:  If you are constantly trying to find the same one
>or two "Unknown Smith" individuals, bookmark them and don't worry about making
>up something to make them stand out in the Name list.
> --Paula in Texas

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RE: [LegacyUG] Producing search list

[Bobby Johnson]

Here is my way of finding those who may be included in the SSDI and have not 
been found or entered into Legacy.



Detailed Search



Part 1



Look for whom? Individual

Where to look? Birth Date

How to look? After

What to look for? 1873



second condition (and)



Look for whom? Individual

Where to look? Death Date

How to look? After

What to look for? 1935



Third condition (and)



Look for whom? Individual

Where to look? Living

How to look? Equal To

What to look for? NO



Clear List before this search



This will give you a list of individuals that might have been eligible for SSDI.



Create list



Part 2



Look for whom? Individual

Where to look? Birth Date

How to look? After

What to look for? 1873



second condition (and)



Look for whom? Individual

Where to look? Death Date

How to look? equal to

What to look for? leave blank



no third condition



Add results to existing list



This will add those for whom you have no death date.



Now tag the list with a tag of your choice



Part 3



Look for whom? Individual

Where to look? Master Source

How to look? Contains

What to look for? Enter a part your of the SSDI Master source name. Example:SSDI



No second and third conditions



Clear list before searching



Create list and untag your tag choice above and the remaining tagged list will 
be those who are likely to be in the SSDI whom you have not entered the SSDI 
source for.



Bobby





From: Jean Suplick [mailto:jean.supl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:54 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Producing search list



I want to conduct a Social Security Death Index search blitz and try to locate 
entries for all the eligible people in my database who don't already have an 
existing source citation for the SSDI. So...



I'd like to produce a search list of all the people in my database with 2 
conditions:



   1. They died after 1950 (or some death year)

   2. They do not already have a source citation for the Social Security Death 
Index



I can produce a list of those that already HAVE the SSDI source citation, but I 
can't figure out how to produce a list for those who DO NOT HAVE the source 
citation.



I am using the Search --> Find --> Detailed Search screen.



Any ideas?



Thanks,

Jean Suplick

Plano, Texas





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RE: [LegacyUG] Producing search list

[Morris M. Sonnier]

Legacy’s Add-On Gen-Smarts will do that for you.  As a matter of fact, it is on 
sale right now.  Gen-Smarts will also tell you which records need articles from 
Genealogybank.com and many others.  It allows you to isolate what type of 
record.





Morris Sonnier



From: Jean Suplick [mailto:jean.supl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:54 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Producing search list



I want to conduct a Social Security Death Index search blitz and try to locate 
entries for all the eligible people in my database who don't already have an 
existing source citation for the SSDI. So...



I'd like to produce a search list of all the people in my database with 2 
conditions:



   1. They died after 1950 (or some death year)

   2. They do not already have a source citation for the Social Security Death 
Index



I can produce a list of those that already HAVE the SSDI source citation, but I 
can't figure out how to produce a list for those who DO NOT HAVE the source 
citation.



I am using the Search --> Find --> Detailed Search screen.



Any ideas?



Thanks,

Jean Suplick

Plano, Texas







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Re: [LegacyUG] Producing search list

[Mike Fry]

On 2012/02/15 18:04, Ron Ferguson wrote:

> If you tag all those with an SSDI with, say, tag1 then search for all those
> where tag1 is equal to untagged, you will have those you are looking for.

And, you also have to eliminate everyone who died before SSDI was introduced in
the 20thc :-)

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg


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Re: [LegacyUG] Producing search list

[Ron Ferguson]

Jean,

If you tag all those with an SSDI with, say,  tag1 then search for all those 
where tag1 is equal to untagged, you will have those you are looking for.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

From: Jean Suplick
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:53 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Producing search list

I want to conduct a Social Security Death Index search blitz and try to locate 
entries for all the eligible people in my database who don't already have an 
existing source citation for the SSDI. So...

I'd like to produce a search list of all the people in my database with 2 
conditions:

   1. They died after 1950 (or some death year)
   2. They do not already have a source citation for the Social Security Death 
Index

I can produce a list of those that already HAVE the SSDI source citation, but I 
can't figure out how to produce a list for those who DO NOT HAVE the source 
citation.

I am using the Search --> Find --> Detailed Search screen.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Jean Suplick
Plano, Texas


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Re: [LegacyUG] Colonial Secretary's Papers and Source Writer

[Ron Ferguson]

Carol,

Your comment that Source Writer is only suitable for American Sources is 
incorrect. There are specific templates for BMDs and censuses for the 
constituent countries of the British Isles.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


From: cr brassfield
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:48 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Colonial Secretary's Papers and Source Writer

Megan

I'm in the U.K. and do research worldwide - my late husband was American and I 
have 2 One-Name Studies that include people in Europe and Commonwealth 
especially.
Because I have been using Legacy since before Source Writer was created I find 
that it's best to use that for U.S. sources only as that it what it has been 
designed for.
For me it's much better to create my own source system for all other records
I do cite the whole CSP collection as a Master Source. In the 'Text of Source' 
and 'Comments' I put basic info of types of resources/sections included in the 
collection. In the 'Source Detail' I can then add all the individual detail for 
the section I am referring to.


Carol






Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:29:23 -0800
From: mmhitch...@yahoo.com.au
Subject: [LegacyUG] Colonial Secretary's Papers and Source Writer
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com


Hi


I am new to this group, and a little nervous, but hopefully I get this right.


I am wondering if anyone has entered NSW Colonial Secretary's Papers as a 
source in Legacy. I have found a number of supporting documents in this 
collection but am unsure how to enter it in Source Writer as there doesn't seem 
to be a category that fits.


The Colonial Secretary's Papers contains records for the Colony of New South 
Wales, Australia from 1784-1821, and a mixed bag it is. There are convict 
lists, assignment of convicts, victualling, land grants, memoranda, copies of 
all official correspondence within the colony, between NSW and other colonies 
and between NSW and other governments, and more besides. This makes it hard to 
find a category to put the Papers into when making a Master Source.



So, do I have to break it down into component parts, or is there a way to refer 
to the whole collection as a Master Source? Has anyone had any experience with 
this, and, if so, how did you approach it?


Cheerio
Megan Hitchens

You can feel compassion regardless of whether you view the other person as a 
friend or an enemy. It is based on the other's fundamental rights rather than 
your own mental projection. - the 14th Dalai Lama


http://www.greenpeace.org/tokyo-two



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[LegacyUG] Producing search list

[Jean Suplick]

I want to conduct a Social Security Death Index search blitz and try to
locate entries for all the eligible people in my database who don't already
have an existing source citation for the SSDI. So...

I'd like to produce a search list of all the people in my database with 2
conditions:

   1. They died after 1950 (or some death year)
   2. They do not already have a source citation for the Social Security
Death Index

I can produce a list of those that already HAVE the SSDI source citation,
but I can't figure out how to produce a list for those who DO NOT HAVE the
source citation.

I am using the Search --> Find --> Detailed Search screen.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Jean Suplick
Plano, Texas


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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Problem

[Jenny M Benson]

On 15/02/2012 08:05, Colin Liddell wrote:
> In my case there are no half marriages or broken ;line in the descent from
> ym g grandmother to  me and in the case of my cousin, I am fairly positive
> there are none in her line  but I will cjeck again.
> I have run Check and Repair with no improvement so my next step is to check
> with my cousin that there are no half marriages in her line, that there is a
> direct line from her gg grandmother to her.

I think what people are saying is not that the half-relationship
actually exists but that Legacy mistakenly thinks it did.  It sometimes
happen that people find "phantom marriages" in their family file and
this can cause children to be added to what looks like the right parents
but aren't.

I'm sure your cousin will confirm that there were no half-siblings
involved.  It's Legacy you need to check with.  Look at each person in
the line and see if any of them are shown as having 2 spouses.

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Jenny M Benson


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Re: [LegacyUG] What name to use?

[Mike Fry]

On 2012/02/15 04:19, R G Strong-genes wrote:

> Actually all you have to do in Family view is right click on the person and
> then pick the menu item Add>brother or sister

Brother and Sister as options aren't enabled unless there is at least one
parent. You can't move him down into the children's area unless there's at least
one parent. Double-clicking on the blank mother or father 'creates' the missing
parents as unknowns. Then you ad the brother or sister and move him down into
the children's area.

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Johannesburg


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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Problem

[Colin Liddell]

Wendy, thank you for your reply.

In my case there are no half marriages or broken ;line in the descent from
ym g grandmother to  me and in the case of my cousin, I am fairly positive
there are none in her line  but I will cjeck again.
I have run Check and Repair with no improvement so my next step is to check
with my cousin that there are no half marriages in her line, that there is a
direct line from her gg grandmother to her.
Thank you for your suggestion.

Colin

- Original Message -
From: "Wendy Howard" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship Problem


> If you look at that line more closely, I think you will find that at
> some stage a parent had two partners/spouses, and one line descends from
> a child from one marriage, and the other child from the second marriage.
>
> I have a half-great-uncle, Jack.  His father is my great-grandfather
> (Eddy), his mother is no (blood) relation to me.  My great-grandmother
> had a relationship with Eddy before he married, producing my grandfather.
>
> Jack's children are my half-first-cousins, once removed.
>
> If this is not the case in your Legacy file, try running the
> Check/Repair to see if that fixes things up for you.  File > File
> Maintenance
>
> Hope this helps.  :-)
>
> Kind Regards,
> Wendy
>
> Colin Liddell said the following on 15/02/2012 3:09 p.m.:
>> I am hoping someone on the List will able to explain a relationship
>> problem to me.
>> Just recently I found a distant cousin on Ancestry, it turns out my g
>> grandmother is the sister of her gg grandmother. As she is one step
>> out in the realtionship, my first thought was she was my 3rd cousin
>> once removed but I thought I would check this with the relationship
>> calculator on Legacy and when I did I was told that this lady is my
>> Half third cousin once removed.
>> Can anyone explain to me what the word "Half" means.
>> I look forward to what you clever folks can tell me.
>> Colin.
>
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