[LegacyUG] Quarter dates

[Bob Austen]

Legacy does a marvelous job of 'cleaning up' date entries.  However, an
English (?) Quarter date must be entered  [month] Q [year].



Legacy says that Jan-Mar 1876 is a date range (I agree) but also suggests
that Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 is a date range, where others (Ancestry for one)
accept this format as a 'Quarter' date (Legacy's Mar Q 1876).   You can't
enter Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 as a date in Legacy as it will simply be deleted
without warning - that part is due to be corrected but it will be treated as
a 'bad date'.  Why is it a 'bad date'?



Ancestry have recently started using yet another format '1876 - Jan-Feb-Mar'
which, of course, is also a valid way to show an English quarter date and as
such should be allowed as a 'good date' by Legacy but is currently being
trapped incorrectly as a 'bad date'.



I do a lot of copy/paste from Ancestry and always have to change their
quarter date to suit Legacy's criteria for input.  I was looking for an
enhancement to convert the entry of Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 to Mar Q 1876.  This
would be a simple programming change.  Instead, they have chosen to change
the programming to make it a 'bad date' rather than make it a 'good date'.



The response from Brian/Support is:

"The use of quarter dates in Legacy has existed since sometime in 1996 when
Legacy 6.0 was in effect. Use the help file to look up quarter dates to see
how they should be entered."

>From Legacy Help.

The quarters are Jan-Mar, Apr-Jun, Jul-Sep, and Oct-Dec. Legacy will accept
a date based on these quarters that are entered in the following format:

[month] Q [year] - For [month] substitute the ending month for one of the
calendar quarters. For year substitute the year of the Index.



Why must legacy be so restrictive when entering English quarter dates?



Am I alone in this idea for an enhancement?   If there is anyone else on the
LUG that would think this to be an improvement I hope you would chime in.
perhaps we can get Legacy to make a minor change to an already great
program.



Bob A


















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Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

[Ron Bernier]

Why not "lobby" Ancestry to change their formatting to conform to Legacy's
standard.  Why should it be Legacy's responsibility to conform to
Ancestry's format?


Ron Bernier


On Saturday, April 12, 2014, Bob Austen  wrote:

> Legacy does a marvelous job of 'cleaning up' date entries.  However, an
> English (?) Quarter date must be entered  [month] Q [year].
>
>
>
> Legacy says that Jan-Mar 1876 is a date range (I agree) but also suggests
> that Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 is a date range, where others (Ancestry for one)
> accept this format as a 'Quarter' date (Legacy's Mar Q 1876).   You can't
> enter Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 as a date in Legacy as it will simply be deleted
> without warning - that part is due to be corrected but it will be treated
> as a 'bad date'.  Why is it a 'bad date'?
>
>
>
> Ancestry have recently started using yet another format '1876 -
> Jan-Feb-Mar' which, of course, is also a valid way to show an English
> quarter date and as such should be allowed as a 'good date' by Legacy but
> is currently being trapped incorrectly as a 'bad date'.
>
>
>
> I do a lot of copy/paste from Ancestry and always have to change their
> quarter date to suit Legacy's criteria for input.  I was looking for an
> enhancement to convert the entry of Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 to Mar Q 1876.  This
> would be a simple programming change.  Instead, they have chosen to change
> the programming to make it a 'bad date' rather than make it a 'good date'.
>
> Am I alone in this idea for an enhancement?   If there is anyone else on
> the LUG that would think this to be an improvement I hope you would chime
> in... perhaps we can get Legacy to make a minor change to an already great
> program.
>
>
>
> Bob A
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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RE: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

[David Abernathy]

They BOTH should be using the Standard that is in use by the English and Welsh 
registry.

They should NOT be making their OWN standard.





Thanks,

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From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 7:04 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates



Why not "lobby" Ancestry to change their formatting to conform to Legacy's 
standard.  Why should it be Legacy's responsibility to conform to Ancestry's 
format?


Ron Bernier




On Saturday, April 12, 2014, Bob Austen  wrote:

Legacy does a marvelous job of ‘cleaning up’ date entries.  However, an English 
(?) Quarter date must be entered  [month] Q [year].



Legacy says that Jan-Mar 1876 is a date range (I agree) but also suggests that 
Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 is a date range, where others (Ancestry for one) accept this 
format as a ‘Quarter’ date (Legacy’s Mar Q 1876).   You can’t enter Jan-Feb-Mar 
1876 as a date in Legacy as it will simply be deleted without warning – that 
part is due to be corrected but it will be treated as a ‘bad date’.  Why is it 
a ‘bad date’?



Ancestry have recently started using yet another format ‘1876 – Jan-Feb-Mar’ 
which, of course, is also a valid way to show an English quarter date and as 
such should be allowed as a ‘good date’ by Legacy but is currently being 
trapped incorrectly as a ‘bad date’.



I do a lot of copy/paste from Ancestry and always have to change their quarter 
date to suit Legacy’s criteria for input.  I was looking for an enhancement to 
convert the entry of Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 to Mar Q 1876.  This would be a simple 
programming change.  Instead, they have chosen to change the programming to 
make it a ‘bad date’ rather than make it a ‘good date’.

Am I alone in this idea for an enhancement?   If there is anyone else on the 
LUG that would think this to be an improvement I hope you would chime in… 
perhaps we can get Legacy to make a minor change to an already great program.



Bob A











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Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

[Ron Bernier]

If that is the case, then the OP should be contacting both Ancestry and
Legacy.  My point is, the requests are always for Legacy to change what
they are doing.  It's always - "I want to use information from another
source and in order to save me work, I want Legacy to conform to the way
the other source formats their information".  I'm saying that it is
ridiculous that the burden of change is always being laid at Legacy's door.


Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI


On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 10:18 AM, David Abernathy <
da...@schmeckabernathy.com> wrote:

> They BOTH should be using the Standard that is in use by the English and
> Welsh registry.
>
> They should NOT be making their OWN standard.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> David C Abernathy
>
> Email disclaimers
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>
> 
>
> This message represents the official view of the voices in my head.
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> *From:* Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net]
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 12, 2014 7:04 AM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates
>
>
>
> Why not "lobby" Ancestry to change their formatting to conform to Legacy's
> standard.  Why should it be Legacy's responsibility to conform to
> Ancestry's format?
>
>
> Ron Bernier
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 12, 2014, Bob Austen  wrote:
>
> Legacy does a marvelous job of 'cleaning up' date entries.  However, an
> English (?) Quarter date must be entered  [month] Q [year].
>
>
>
> Legacy says that Jan-Mar 1876 is a date range (I agree) but also suggests
> that Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 is a date range, where others (Ancestry for one)
> accept this format as a 'Quarter' date (Legacy's Mar Q 1876).   You can't
> enter Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 as a date in Legacy as it will simply be deleted
> without warning - that part is due to be corrected but it will be treated
> as a 'bad date'.  Why is it a 'bad date'?
>
>
>
> Ancestry have recently started using yet another format '1876 -
> Jan-Feb-Mar' which, of course, is also a valid way to show an English
> quarter date and as such should be allowed as a 'good date' by Legacy but
> is currently being trapped incorrectly as a 'bad date'.
>
>
>
> I do a lot of copy/paste from Ancestry and always have to change their
> quarter date to suit Legacy's criteria for input.  I was looking for an
> enhancement to convert the entry of Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 to Mar Q 1876.  This
> would be a simple programming change.  Instead, they have chosen to change
> the programming to make it a 'bad date' rather than make it a 'good date'.
>
> Am I alone in this idea for an enhancement?   If there is anyone else on
> the LUG that would think this to be an improvement I hope you would chime
> in... perhaps we can get Legacy to make a minor change to an already great
> program.
>
>
>
> Bob A
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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> Woonsocket, RI
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RE: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

[David Abernathy]

Ron,

You are correct, but, if these companies would use ONLY the international 
standards and not make their own, then there would NOT be this problem.



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David C Abernathy

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From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 7:31 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates



If that is the case, then the OP should be contacting both Ancestry and Legacy. 
 My point is, the requests are always for Legacy to change what they are doing. 
 It's always - "I want to use information from another source and in order to 
save me work, I want Legacy to conform to the way the other source formats 
their information".  I'm saying that it is ridiculous that the burden of change 
is always being laid at Legacy's door.






Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI



On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 10:18 AM, David Abernathy  
wrote:

They BOTH should be using the Standard that is in use by the English and Welsh 
registry.

They should NOT be making their OWN standard.





Thanks,

David C Abernathy

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From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 7:04 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates



Why not "lobby" Ancestry to change their formatting to conform to Legacy's 
standard.  Why should it be Legacy's responsibility to conform to Ancestry's 
format?


Ron Bernier




On Saturday, April 12, 2014, Bob Austen  wrote:

Legacy does a marvelous job of ‘cleaning up’ date entries.  However, an English 
(?) Quarter date must be entered  [month] Q [year].



Legacy says that Jan-Mar 1876 is a date range (I agree) but also suggests that 
Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 is a date range, where others (Ancestry for one) accept this 
format as a ‘Quarter’ date (Legacy’s Mar Q 1876).   You can’t enter Jan-Feb-Mar 
1876 as a date in Legacy as it will simply be deleted without warning – that 
part is due to be corrected but it will be treated as a ‘bad date’.  Why is it 
a ‘bad date’?



Ancestry have recently started using yet another format ‘1876 – Jan-Feb-Mar’ 
which, of course, is also a valid way to show an English quarter date and as 
such should be allowed as a ‘good date’ by Legacy but is currently being 
trapped incorrectly as a ‘bad date’.



I do a lot of copy/paste from Ancestry and always have to change their quarter 
date to suit Legacy’s criteria for input.  I was looking for an enhancement to 
convert the entry of Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 to Mar Q 1876.  This would be a simple 
programming change.  Instead, they have chosen to change the programming to 
make it a ‘bad date’ rather than make it a ‘good date’.

Am I alone in this idea for an enhancement?   If there is anyone else on the 
LUG that would think this to be an improvement I hope you would chime in… 
perhaps we can get Legacy to make a minor change to an already great program.



Bob A











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Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

[singhals]

While I see your problem, largely because I have it in
reverse, I don't see a need to change anything in Legacy or
Ancestry or whatever.

It's a "bad date" because non-British researchers interpret
Jan-Feb-March 1876 differently than British researchers.
Americans who don't do British research read that as:
"researcher has 3 sources, one gives the birth in Jan, one
says Feb, and the third says March."  Endless opp for
disaster there. Alternately, it could be interpreted as
sloppiness on the part of the researcher for not determining
/which/ it is.

Cheryl


Bob Austen wrote:
> Legacy does a marvelous job of ‘cleaning up’ date entries.
> However, an English (?) Quarter date must be entered [month]
> Q [year].
>
> Legacy says that Jan-Mar 1876 is a date range (I agree) but
> also suggests that Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 is a date range, where
> others (Ancestry for one) accept this format as a ‘Quarter’
> date (Legacy’s Mar Q 1876). You can’t enter Jan-Feb-Mar 1876
> as a date in Legacy as it will simply be deleted without
> warning – that part is due to be corrected but it will be
> treated as a ‘bad date’. Why is it a ‘bad date’?
>
> Ancestry have recently started using yet another format
> ‘1876 – Jan-Feb-Mar’ which, of course, is also a valid way
> to show an English quarter date and as such should be
> allowed as a ‘good date’ by Legacy but is currently being
> trapped incorrectly as a ‘bad date’.
>
> I do a lot of copy/paste from Ancestry and always have to
> change their quarter date to suit Legacy’s criteria for
> input. I was looking for an enhancement to convert the entry
> of Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 to Mar Q 1876. This would be a simple
> programming change. Instead, they have chosen to change the
> programming to make it a ‘bad date’ rather than make it a
> ‘good date’.
>
> The response from Brian/Support is:
>
> “The use of quarter dates in Legacy has existed since
> sometime in 1996 when Legacy 6.0 was in effect. Use the help
> file to look up quarter dates to see how they should be
> entered.”
>
>  From Legacy Help…
>
> The quarters are Jan-Mar, Apr-Jun, Jul-Sep, and Oct-Dec.
> Legacy will accept a date based on these quarters that are
> entered in the following format:
>
> [month] Q [year] - For [month] substitute the ending month
> for one of the calendar quarters. For year substitute the
> year of the Index.
>
> Why must legacy be so restrictive when entering English
> quarter dates?
>
> Am I alone in this idea for an enhancement? If there is
> anyone else on the LUG that would think this to be an
> improvement I hope you would chime in… perhaps we can get
> Legacy to make a minor change to an already great program.




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RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures on Pedigree view

[David Abernathy]

Barb,

I do not see anything listed, hopefully someone from support can provide this 
information.



Thanks,

David C Abernathy

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From: Barb Weed [mailto:bweed66...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 9:33 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pictures on Pedigree view



Yes I realize that the size of the pictures are off.  But where do I find the 
right size and proportion to use?  I don't see it in the help file.
Barb



On Sunday, April 6, 2014 10:19 AM, David Abernathy  
wrote:

That “White area” is because the image is NOT the same size and/or ratio 
(height x width) as the thumbnail area is.

One needs to find out what this ratio is and only use images that are of this 
ratio.



Thanks,

David C Abernathy

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From: Barb Weed [mailto:bweed66...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 10:53 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Pictures on Pedigree view



Hello,  I don't care for the boxes with the male and female figures in them so 
I have turned them off.  But when there is a picture to go with the name on the 
pedigree, it prints in a box with white space edgeing it.  That does not look 
good.  I would prefer to see the pictures without the box or at least make the 
box transparent.  It would even look better is the pictures would fill the box. 
 Is there a way to do that?

Barb



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RE: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

[Ron Ferguson]

Bob,

Q date is a Legacy innovation introduced, in my view wrongly by user request.

The correct reference format is last month of the quarter+year, which is what I 
use - not to mention all English statutory bodies.


Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307

Bob Austen  wrote:

>Legacy does a marvelous job of 'cleaning up' date entries.  However, an
>English (?) Quarter date must be entered  [month] Q [year].
>
>
>
>Legacy says that Jan-Mar 1876 is a date range (I agree) but also suggests
>that Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 is a date range, where others (Ancestry for one)
>accept this format as a 'Quarter' date (Legacy's Mar Q 1876).   You can't
>enter Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 as a date in Legacy as it will simply be deleted
>without warning - that part is due to be corrected but it will be treated as
>a 'bad date'.  Why is it a 'bad date'?
>
>
>
>Ancestry have recently started using yet another format '1876 - Jan-Feb-Mar'
>which, of course, is also a valid way to show an English quarter date and as
>such should be allowed as a 'good date' by Legacy but is currently being
>trapped incorrectly as a 'bad date'.
>
>
>
>I do a lot of copy/paste from Ancestry and always have to change their
>quarter date to suit Legacy's criteria for input.  I was looking for an
>enhancement to convert the entry of Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 to Mar Q 1876.  This
>would be a simple programming change.  Instead, they have chosen to change
>the programming to make it a 'bad date' rather than make it a 'good date'.
>
>
>
>The response from Brian/Support is:
>
>"The use of quarter dates in Legacy has existed since sometime in 1996 when
>Legacy 6.0 was in effect. Use the help file to look up quarter dates to see
>how they should be entered."
>
>From Legacy Help.
>
>The quarters are Jan-Mar, Apr-Jun, Jul-Sep, and Oct-Dec. Legacy will accept
>a date based on these quarters that are entered in the following format:
>
>[month] Q [year] - For [month] substitute the ending month for one of the
>calendar quarters. For year substitute the year of the Index.
>
>
>
>Why must legacy be so restrictive when entering English quarter dates?
>
>
>
>Am I alone in this idea for an enhancement?   If there is anyone else on the
>LUG that would think this to be an improvement I hope you would chime in.
>perhaps we can get Legacy to make a minor change to an already great
>program.
>
>
>
>Bob A
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Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

[Ron Ferguson]

Absolutely agree, Ron

Ron Ferguson
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Ron Bernier  wrote:

>If that is the case, then the OP should be contacting both Ancestry and
>Legacy.  My point is, the requests are always for Legacy to change what
>they are doing.  It's always - "I want to use information from another
>source and in order to save me work, I want Legacy to conform to the way
>the other source formats their information".  I'm saying that it is
>ridiculous that the burden of change is always being laid at Legacy's door.
>
>
>Ron Bernier
>Woonsocket, RI
>
>
>On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 10:18 AM, David Abernathy <
>da...@schmeckabernathy.com> wrote:
>
>> They BOTH should be using the Standard that is in use by the English and
>> Welsh registry.
>>
>> They should NOT be making their OWN standard.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> David C Abernathy
>>
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>> *From:* Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net]
>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 12, 2014 7:04 AM
>> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates
>>
>>
>>
>> Why not "lobby" Ancestry to change their formatting to conform to Legacy's
>> standard.  Why should it be Legacy's responsibility to conform to
>> Ancestry's format?
>>
>>
>> Ron Bernier
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, April 12, 2014, Bob Austen  wrote:
>>
>> Legacy does a marvelous job of 'cleaning up' date entries.  However, an
>> English (?) Quarter date must be entered  [month] Q [year].
>>
>>
>>
>> Legacy says that Jan-Mar 1876 is a date range (I agree) but also suggests
>> that Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 is a date range, where others (Ancestry for one)
>> accept this format as a 'Quarter' date (Legacy's Mar Q 1876).   You can't
>> enter Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 as a date in Legacy as it will simply be deleted
>> without warning - that part is due to be corrected but it will be treated
>> as a 'bad date'.  Why is it a 'bad date'?
>>
>>
>>
>> Ancestry have recently started using yet another format '1876 -
>> Jan-Feb-Mar' which, of course, is also a valid way to show an English
>> quarter date and as such should be allowed as a 'good date' by Legacy but
>> is currently being trapped incorrectly as a 'bad date'.
>>
>>
>>
>> I do a lot of copy/paste from Ancestry and always have to change their
>> quarter date to suit Legacy's criteria for input.  I was looking for an
>> enhancement to convert the entry of Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 to Mar Q 1876.  This
>> would be a simple programming change.  Instead, they have chosen to change
>> the programming to make it a 'bad date' rather than make it a 'good date'.
>>
>> Am I alone in this idea for an enhancement?   If there is anyone else on
>> the LUG that would think this to be an improvement I hope you would chime
>> in... perhaps we can get Legacy to make a minor change to an already great
>> program.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob A
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Woonsocket, RI
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RE: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

[Ron Ferguson]

With respect, *not* Legacy's problem.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
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David Abernathy  wrote:

>Ron,
>
>You are correct, but, if these companies would use ONLY the international 
>standards and not make their own, then there would NOT be this problem.
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>David C Abernathy
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>From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net]
>Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 7:31 AM
>To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates
>
>
>
>If that is the case, then the OP should be contacting both Ancestry and 
>Legacy.  My point is, the requests are always for Legacy to change what they 
>are doing.  It's always - "I want to use information from another source and 
>in order to save me work, I want Legacy to conform to the way the other source 
>formats their information".  I'm saying that it is ridiculous that the burden 
>of change is always being laid at Legacy's door.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Ron Bernier
>Woonsocket, RI
>
>
>
>On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 10:18 AM, David Abernathy  
>wrote:
>
>They BOTH should be using the Standard that is in use by the English and Welsh 
>registry.
>
>They should NOT be making their OWN standard.
>
>
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>David C Abernathy
>
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>From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net]
>Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 7:04 AM
>To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates
>
>
>
>Why not "lobby" Ancestry to change their formatting to conform to Legacy's 
>standard.  Why should it be Legacy's responsibility to conform to Ancestry's 
>format?
>
>
>Ron Bernier
>
>
>
>
>On Saturday, April 12, 2014, Bob Austen  wrote:
>
>Legacy does a marvelous job of ‘cleaning up’ date entries.  However, an 
>English (?) Quarter date must be entered  [month] Q [year].
>
>
>
>Legacy says that Jan-Mar 1876 is a date range (I agree) but also suggests that 
>Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 is a date range, where others (Ancestry for one) accept this 
>format as a ‘Quarter’ date (Legacy’s Mar Q 1876).   You can’t enter 
>Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 as a date in Legacy as it will simply be deleted without 
>warning – that part is due to be corrected but it will be treated as a ‘bad 
>date’.  Why is it a ‘bad date’?
>
>
>
>Ancestry have recently started using yet another format ‘1876 – Jan-Feb-Mar’ 
>which, of course, is also a valid way to show an English quarter date and as 
>such should be allowed as a ‘good date’ by Legacy but is currently being 
>trapped incorrectly as a ‘bad date’.
>
>
>
>I do a lot of copy/paste from Ancestry and always have to change their quarter 
>date to suit Legacy’s criteria for input.  I was looking for an enhancement to 
>convert the entry of Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 to Mar Q 1876.  This would be a simple 
>programming change.  Instead, they have chosen to change the programming to 
>make it a ‘bad date’ rather than make it a ‘good date’.
>
>Am I alone in this idea for an enhancement?   If there is anyone else on the 
>LUG that would think this to be an improvement I hope you would chime in… 
>perhaps we can get Legacy to make a minor change to an already great program.
>
>
>
>Bob A
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

[MikeFry]

On 12 Apr 2014 15:31, Bob Austen wrote:

> Why must legacy be so restrictive when entering English quarter dates?

Because this is exactly how FreeBMD records them!

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RE: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

[David Abernathy]

Ron Ferguson,

What is the “Official” format(s) of a Quarter Date, since you are in the UK?



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From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 8:10 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates



Absolutely agree, Ron

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307

Ron Bernier  wrote:

If that is the case, then the OP should be contacting both Ancestry and Legacy. 
 My point is, the requests are always for Legacy to change what they are doing. 
 It's always - "I want to use information from another source and in order to 
save me work, I want Legacy to conform to the way the other source formats 
their information".  I'm saying that it is ridiculous that the burden of change 
is always being laid at Legacy's door.






Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI



On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 10:18 AM, David Abernathy  
wrote:

They BOTH should be using the Standard that is in use by the English and Welsh 
registry.

They should NOT be making their OWN standard.





Thanks,

David C Abernathy

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From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 7:04 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates



Why not "lobby" Ancestry to change their formatting to conform to Legacy's 
standard.  Why should it be Legacy's responsibility to conform to Ancestry's 
format?


Ron Bernier




On Saturday, April 12, 2014, Bob Austen  wrote:

Legacy does a marvelous job of ‘cleaning up’ date entries.  However, an English 
(?) Quarter date must be entered  [month] Q [year].



Legacy says that Jan-Mar 1876 is a date range (I agree) but also suggests that 
Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 is a date range, where others (Ancestry for one) accept this 
format as a ‘Quarter’ date (Legacy’s Mar Q 1876).   You can’t enter Jan-Feb-Mar 
1876 as a date in Legacy as it will simply be deleted without warning – that 
part is due to be corrected but it will be treated as a ‘bad date’.  Why is it 
a ‘bad date’?



Ancestry have recently started using yet another format ‘1876 – Jan-Feb-Mar’ 
which, of course, is also a valid way to show an English quarter date and as 
such should be allowed as a ‘good date’ by Legacy but is currently being 
trapped incorrectly as a ‘bad date’.



I do a lot of copy/paste from Ancestry and always have to change their quarter 
date to suit Legacy’s criteria for input.  I was looking for an enhancement to 
convert the entry of Jan-Feb-Mar 1876 to Mar Q 1876.  This would be a simple 
programming change.  Instead, they have chosen to change the programming to 
make it a ‘bad date’ rather than make it a ‘good date’.

Am I alone in this idea for an enhancement?   If there is anyone else on the 
LUG that would think this to be an improvement I hope you would chime in… 
perhaps we can get Legacy to make a minor change to an already great program.



Bob A











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Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

[Jenny M Benson]

On 12/04/2014 16:06, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Q date is a Legacy innovation introduced, in my view wrongly by user
> request.
>
> The correct reference format is last month of the quarter+year, which is
> what I use - not to mention all English statutory bodies.

Admittedly FreeBMD (to take one very widely used example) lists the
quarters as, for example, "March 1845" or "December 1900" but I think
this would be very confusing if I adopted this style in my database.  In
many cases I know the month and year of a vital event, but not the
precise day.  When I write March 1845 what I mean is "between 1 and 31
March 1845" and I think there are few people who would not read it as
meaning that.

What I write for a Quarter date, as per Legacy standard, is March Q
1845.  This makes it very clear to most people exactly what I mean and
it is a simple matter to explain to the few who don't.  Much simpler
than having to explain for every instance of March , June ,
September  and December  whether I actually meant "on one of the
days in that month" or "at some time in the three months ending with
that one"!

I for one am a very satisfied Legacy customer in this respect - as in
many others.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Shared Event uses maiden name instead of married name

[Jenny M Benson]

On 11/04/2014 14:44, Alan Wakenhut wrote:
> I gave up and used the sentence override for each child.   I at first
> thought that the shared event feature was a great time saver when
> entering data from a census, except when the head of household used a
> different name than the one designated as the proper name.
>
> I realized while doing the overrides that the first name for the
> widow was different than her first name on the census.  Her
> designated name was Anna and the census used Annie.  Also, some of
> the children's names were different than the designated name.  i.e.:
> Nellie instead of Nathelia.   Since I am a stickler for using the
> data exactly as it was reported in the record, I am starting to have
> my doubts about using the shared events anymore.   Now I have to
> determine if I have to change the first names for the other members
> of the family in all of the shared events I have entered.

I really don't see what the problem is.  The forename and surname I
assign to a person is how they are referred to all through my file and
any Report in which they are mentioned.  In the case of a Census I list
the details as written in the Census in the Desc field and list the
household members in the Notes, using their forenames and designated
surnames.  (eg "... Joe Bloggs, his wife Jane Doe and their son John
Bloggs."  In the case of, for example, a John Bloggs's birth being
registered I will record that this was done by "his mother Jane Doe".

On both these instances the Source Citation will include exactly what is
written on the relevant document - in the case of the person registering
a birth, this will include the mother's married surname.

If anyone wants to track back from a Shared Event to the original
document they are going to use the details from the Source Citation to
do this. not the Event Sentence so there would be no difficulty, even if
a woman is listed by a variant of her forename and her married surname
(mis-spelled or otherwise).

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RE: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

[David Abernathy]

When I do NOT know the full date, day, month and year, I always use the "About".
But, I also do NOT use any Quarter Dates, as I have not ran into any that are 
listed as such.

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-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 12:20 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

On 12/04/2014 16:06, Ron Ferguson wrote:
> Q date is a Legacy innovation introduced, in my view wrongly by user
> request.
>
> The correct reference format is last month of the quarter+year, which
> is what I use - not to mention all English statutory bodies.

Admittedly FreeBMD (to take one very widely used example) lists the quarters 
as, for example, "March 1845" or "December 1900" but I think this would be very 
confusing if I adopted this style in my database.  In many cases I know the 
month and year of a vital event, but not the precise day.  When I write March 
1845 what I mean is "between 1 and 31 March 1845" and I think there are few 
people who would not read it as meaning that.

What I write for a Quarter date, as per Legacy standard, is March Q 1845.  This 
makes it very clear to most people exactly what I mean and it is a simple 
matter to explain to the few who don't.  Much simpler than having to explain 
for every instance of March , June , September  and December  
whether I actually meant "on one of the days in that month" or "at some time in 
the three months ending with that one"!

I for one am a very satisfied Legacy customer in this respect - as in many 
others.

--
Jenny M Benson



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RE: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

[Ron Ferguson]

David,

It would seem that you are not familiar with the English quarter days. 
Historically these are the days on which many accounts had to be settled, 
especially anything relating to land, property and government administration. 
The actual day being the last day of each quarter - the first quarter day being 
31 March in each year.

It follows that church records were returned to the authorities on each quarter 
days, including BMDs when appropriate.

So the date which is recorded is the quarter in which the event was recorded 
not the actual date. As Jenny said, this is normally published as eg. March 
1852.

I actually use cir March 1852, and this is the only use I have for "cir" using 
any otherwise. This way I can easily tell the registration dates.

As usual, I will make it clear that this is just my way, and not a 
recommendation

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergyst.co.uk/
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RE: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

[David Abernathy]

Ron,
Then don't you think that ALL of these companies should be using the " March 
1852" format" instead of having several versions?

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-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:47 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

David,

It would seem that you are not familiar with the English quarter days. 
Historically these are the days on which many accounts had to be settled, 
especially anything relating to land, property and government administration. 
The actual day being the last day of each quarter - the first quarter day being 
31 March in each year.

It follows that church records were returned to the authorities on each quarter 
days, including BMDs when appropriate.

So the date which is recorded is the quarter in which the event was recorded 
not the actual date. As Jenny said, this is normally published as eg. March 
1852.

I actually use cir March 1852, and this is the only use I have for "cir" using 
any otherwise. This way I can easily tell the registration dates.

As usual, I will make it clear that this is just my way, and not a 
recommendation

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergyst.co.uk/
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RE: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

[Ron Ferguson]

David,

Yes, but like I said, it's not Legacy's problem what other companies do. At 
least Legacy has tried

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307

David Abernathy  wrote:

>Ron,
>Then don't you think that ALL of these companies should be using the " March 
>1852" format" instead of having several versions?
>
>Thanks,
>David C Abernathy
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>-Original Message-
>From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
>Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:47 PM
>To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates
>
>David,
>
>It would seem that you are not familiar with the English quarter days. 
>Historically these are the days on which many accounts had to be settled, 
>especially anything relating to land, property and government administration. 
>The actual day being the last day of each quarter - the first quarter day 
>being 31 March in each year.
>
>It follows that church records were returned to the authorities on each 
>quarter days, including BMDs when appropriate.
>
>So the date which is recorded is the quarter in which the event was recorded 
>not the actual date. As Jenny said, this is normally published as eg. March 
>1852.
>
>I actually use cir March 1852, and this is the only use I have for "cir" using 
>any otherwise. This way I can easily tell the registration dates.
>
>As usual, I will make it clear that this is just my way, and not a 
>recommendation
>
>Ron Ferguson
>http://www.fergyst.co.uk/
>GOONS #530
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[LegacyUG] Still not getting emails from the group.

[magnoliasouth]

Again, I've checked my spam folder, and my gmail filters (there are
none). Can someone please check into this?



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RE: [LegacyUG] Still not getting emails from the group.

[C.G. Ouimet]

Just so you know ... today's hot topic is "Dating in the UK" ... :)


C.G. Ouimet
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Still not getting emails from the group.

Again, I've checked my spam folder, and my gmail filters (there are none). Can 
someone please check into this?



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RE: [LegacyUG] Still not getting emails from the group.

[CE WOOD]

Don't be snippy.

Yet again, because Legacy will neither correct the problem nor notify 
subscribers regarding what to do when they encounter this problem,  someone is 
not receiving the posts.

You must contact Legacy. Only they have the magic to fix this ongoing problem. 
They must like doing it.


CE


> From: c.g.oui...@outlook.com
> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Still not getting emails from the group.
> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 18:07:29 -0400
>
> Just so you know ... today's hot topic is "Dating in the UK" ... :)
>
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> C.G. Ouimet
> Kingston ON
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Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

[Brian/Support]

How would you know March 1852 is a quarter date? It could also mean that
it happened in the month of March in 1852 but the day of the month is
unknown. That is why we elected to add the Q to the date. That
eliminates the confusion between a March event and an event registered
at the GRO in a three month period ending in March.

Brian
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Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


On 12/04/2014 5:37 PM, David Abernathy wrote:
> Ron,
> Then don't you think that ALL of these companies should be using the " March 
> 1852" format" instead of having several versions?
>
> Thanks,
> David C Abernathy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

[Ron Ferguson]

Brian,

I did say that the way I deal with these is not a recommendation. The BMD 
quarter dates have nothing, at least directly, to with the actual BMDs

They are simply a record of when these events were *registered*. Strictly 
speaking I suppose that one should create a Registration Event for each type 
then it would be clear that March 1852 was a quarter date.

As I said I don't, I use cir; my choice. BTW, I have no problem with the Legacy 
options even if I do not use them.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
GOONS #5307

Brian/Support  wrote:

>How would you know March 1852 is a quarter date? It could also mean that
>it happened in the month of March in 1852 but the day of the month is
>unknown. That is why we elected to add the Q to the date. That
>eliminates the confusion between a March event and an event registered
>at the GRO in a three month period ending in March.
>
>Brian
>Customer Support
>Millennia Corporation
>br...@legacyfamilytree.com
>http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
>
>On 12/04/2014 5:37 PM, David Abernathy wrote:
>> Ron,
>> Then don't you think that ALL of these companies should be using the " March 
>> 1852" format" instead of having several versions?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> David C Abernathy
>
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[LegacyUG] Even more Legacy 8 source problems

[magnoliasouth]

Okay, I've managed to narrow down one issue with the Ancestor Book. It
was related to the bug I spoke about here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/msg37109.html

The text that was marked in brackets [[ ]] was printing regardless of
whether or not it was in brackets or not.

To add to the issue, when I imported a gedcom, I had elected to have
the gedcom entereed as a source for every field that came with the
gedcom. This resulted in repeating the text that was market in
brackets [[ ]] that was not supposed to be printing and was printing
anyway.

That really needs fixing. I should not have had to clean that up
because it wasn't my mistake nor the mistake of the gedcom. Legacy is
at issue there. I had to tag everyone that had the source, erase the
source entirely and remove it from every citation. Recreate the source
then cite it in the unspecified field and create an override. That
should never have had to be done.

Anyway, so now there's a new issue. It appears that there is a ghost
print in another source. I cannot figure out where the issue is. In
the individual's example here, there are only 3 sources and no more.
The Rootsweb is repeated in other fields, but they are the same source
and source detail.

1. The gedcom
2. Ancestry Files
3. Rootsweb information.

To demonstrate the issue, I've taken some screen caps. This will help
you see what it is that I am talking about. I've blackened out private
information so I don't get in trouble. lol!

List of sources on the Individual: http://goo.gl/cMmon6
The pdf output that contains the ghost text: http://goo.gl/o8Qmlm I
share this so you can be on the look out for it with the screen caps
below.

The Gedcom:
Source Info Tab: http://goo.gl/NzuW5w (notice that the preview
includes private text, which should not and see my discussion above
about that as well as next)
Text/Comments Tab: http://goo.gl/OMZyUA (note the private notes are in
brackets [[ ]]; see also Source Detail Info Tab below)
Override Tab: http://goo.gl/RLNivS (just to show that I had to
completely redo it so that all that bracket enclosed private text does
not stubbornly show up)
Source Detail Info Tab: http://goo.gl/BrNHbG (Notice that none of the
other tabs have info in them AND in the preview I scrolled it down so
that you see the end brackets, in case someone is mistaken in that I
didn't close them)

Ancestry Files:
Source Info Tab: http://goo.gl/IwWmwM
Source Detail Info Tab: http://goo.gl/uSMfHa
Source Detail Text Comments Tab: http://goo.gl/2TSOFM
I don't know about you, but I see nothing about marriage records and the like.

Rootsweb:
Source Info Tab: http://goo.gl/Luh1QL
Repository Tab: http://goo.gl/atpXNp (to demonstrate that there is no
excessive text in there)

Now that you can see it all, where does the Marriage Index and all
that other ghost foo foo come from that is in the PDF? What's even
more interesting is that this individual is not married and has no
children. That error log report that you see in the Gedcom doesn't
have any of that information in it either.

I want to fix it, but how? I cannot find all that stuff and don't know
where it's coming from.

This is driving me to near insanity. LOL! Please, PLEASE help me.

Many TIA x 1 million,

Cindy



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RE: [LegacyUG] Still not getting emails from the group.

[magnoliasouth]

Aha! So it's an ongoing problem? This shouldn't be a problem.

You know, I recommended that they have a support forum and they flatly
refused. I think they don't want to spend the money on the bandwidth,
but that bothers me because that clearly means that they don't care
all that much. :(

Thank you for your useful response. I don't mind snippy, but clearly
CG has problems getting dates. LOL! ;)

Yet again, because Legacy will neither correct the problem nor notify
subscribers regarding what to do when they encounter this problem,  someone is
not receiving the posts.

You must contact Legacy. Only they have the magic to fix this ongoing problem.
They must like doing it.


CE



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RE: [LegacyUG] Still not getting emails from the group.

[Brian L. Lightfoot]

LOL


-Original Message-
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Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 3:07 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Still not getting emails from the group.

Just so you know ... today's hot topic is "Dating in the UK" ... :)


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

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Sent: April 12, 2014 05:59 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Still not getting emails from the group.

Again, I've checked my spam folder, and my gmail filters (there are none). Can 
someone please check into this?






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RE: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

[David Abernathy]

Brian,
I use "About" when I do NOT have a FULL date and others here has stated that 
they us "Cir".

The sites that I have seen, when using the "Q" format will only use "Q1, Q2, Q3 
and Q4", NO month.

Thanks,
David C Abernathy
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-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 3:26 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quarter dates

How would you know March 1852 is a quarter date? It could also mean that it 
happened in the month of March in 1852 but the day of the month is unknown. 
That is why we elected to add the Q to the date. That eliminates the confusion 
between a March event and an event registered at the GRO in a three month 
period ending in March.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


On 12/04/2014 5:37 PM, David Abernathy wrote:
> Ron,
> Then don't you think that ALL of these companies should be using the " March 
> 1852" format" instead of having several versions?
>
> Thanks,
> David C Abernathy



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[LegacyUG] Location merging

[magnoliasouth]

I have a horrible list of locations. I understand how to combine
locations, but that's not working for me. It involves way too much
scrolling up and down and all around. Also, the "find" at the top
isn't finding anything. It only looks for the first word which doesn't
help me.

What I need to do is do a search for one word and get a list of all
locations that have that word in its various forms. For example:

Let's say I want to search for Sumter.

I want to get all of the results like this:

Georgia, Sumter
Georgia, Sumter County
Georgia, Sumter Co.
GA, Sumter
GA, Sumter County
USA, GA, Sumter
USA, GA Sumter County
USA, Ga. Sumter County
United States, Georgia, Sumter
Sumter

You see the problem and I use this one because it's my worst
nightmare. Sumter is all over the place and some location entries
don't even have anything else in them.

Now as you can see, when I have 300 locations and they're sorted they
are at the top the middle the end and so on. Scrolling take WAY too
long and that's just not an option. I'd rather not bother if I have to
do it that way.

How can I fix this? Please, tell me there is an easy way?

Many thanks. :)



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[LegacyUG] Announcing my new Legacy website...

[Kirsty M. Haining]

Hello, group!



I just wanted to announce the first version of my new Legacy-generated website 
— www.hainings.net.



In the past, I have uploaded versions of my tree to various other places 
(Rootsweb, Ancestry, and even MyHeritage). For me, one of the best benefits of 
having your tree online has been finding cousins that I wouldn’t have been able 
to reach otherwise.  However, recently I began to realize that because of 
various changes to the coding of Rootsweb’s WorldConnect, most people doing a 
general Google search on the name of a grandparent would not be able to find me 
even if that grandparent was in my tree. Sure, they can find me if they search 
specifically at Rootsweb or on Ancestry, but many new folks just starting out 
don’t know enough to search those particular websites. The solution to this 
problem — as far as I’m concerned — was to get my own domain and to do a 
website based on Legacy-generated webpages.



There are other genealogy website programs out there — but they break down into 
two main types.  The difference between the two types is whether or not you 
have pages of static material (how Legacy does the pages) or whether the 
information comes dynamically in response to a query.  In terms of having lists 
of names that can be Google-indexed, the static pages actually work better for 
me.



Anyway, I just thought I’d mention how easy it was to create a website with 
Legacy. Legacy did all the really hard work — generated the bulk of my pages — 
and I tweaked it a bit (courtesy of Dennis Kowallek’s LTools 
 ), and did some 
hand-coding (with help from WUL 
 ).  And the result is plain 
to see.



I’d still hope for a few more improvements in Legacy’s webpage output (lifespan 
on the names in the family links box!!), but overall I’m quite satisfied with 
my new website.



cheers,

Kirsty Haining  J

Seattle, Washington

www.hainings.net






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