Re: [LegacyUG] Analyse Source Quality

2014-04-25 Thread Tessa Keough
Thanks I second that suggestion. It is not only helpful to see it all
in a report but to give it to someone else who is assisting with
research (and checking your analysis) - very helpful with one-name and
one-place studies.

Tessa

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On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Brian/Support
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> Yes, there is a suggestion recorded in our system to include results in
> reports and to filter the citations used in reports based on the
> evidence analysis entries.
>
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> On 25/04/2014 2:41 PM, Paula Ryburn wrote:
>> Has anyone submitted a suggestion on this one yet?  I don't want to 
>> duplicate effort.
>>
>> --Paula
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Re: [LegacyUG] Pedigree Chart Colors

2014-04-25 Thread Brian/Support
The OP was only speaking of the pedigree chart but the new four/eight
with two starting point colours will be available in any report where
you see the colour text and boxes button in the report setup screen.
Includes FGR, Ancestor Chart, Descendant chart, Individual Chart report
and timeline chart. As I explained in one of my other messages about
this new feature the option is for group one or group two. No option at
this time to have both on the same chart/report.

On screen in the pedigree view was implemented when the two options were
added so that has been available ever since Legacy 8.0 was first
released, report colour options were missed so they are being added now.

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On 25/04/2014 2:18 PM, Paula Ryburn wrote:
> My bad:  it's in the Subject.  This is only an issue for the pedigree chart, 
> right?  On screen or report or both?  Thanks!
>
> --Paula



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Re: [LegacyUG] US census master source

2014-04-25 Thread Tessa Keough
Maureen

I'm with Kurt - am a confirmed lumper and use the detail for the
places. I am able without any trouble to match my SourceWriter entries
with Evidence Explained. It really does depend on what works best for
you but give it some thought and work through a few entries (data
input), check a chronology report of family group sheet (data output),
to see if you like how it looks and how it works for you.

Tessa


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On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Paula Ryburn
 wrote:
> And if you are using Legacy's SourceWriter templates, Legacy itself will
> force you to separate the TYPES of census records in a given census year.
> ("tangled web" comes to mind when I stop to ponder SW templates...)
>
> --Paula
>
> 
> From: Michele/Support 
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 6:52 AM
>
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] US census master source
>
> This goes back to preferring to be a  lumper or a splitter.  It really is
> personal preference.  I like to have my citations mirror the ones in
> Evidence Explained so for census records I am a splitter. You see how I do
> it based on how I have them listed in my Master Source List.  All entries
> are Ancestry.com unless I have (FS).
>
>
> Census Records - Federal - Georgia - Columbia County - 1880
> Census Records - Federal - Georgia - Columbia County - 1880 mortality
> Census Records - Federal - Georgia - Richmond County - 1850
> Census Records - Federal - Georgia - Richmond County - 1850 slave
> Census Records - Federal - Mississippi - Perry County - 1850
> Census Records - Federal - Mississippi - Perry County - 1860
> Census Records - State - Mississippi - Perry County - 1845 (FS)
> Census Records - State - Mississippi - Perry County - 1853 (FS)
>
>
> Yes, I have a lot of entries but they are organized in such a way that it
> makes it very easy for me to find what I am looking for.
>
>
> Michele
> Technical Support
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 10:29 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] US census master source
>
> I treat the 1880 US Federal Census as a single master source entity, but
> consider the different indexes (Ancestry vs Family Search vs others) as
> separate master source entities.  I put the state and county info with the
> other detail info.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Maureen Lake [mailto:arespo...@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 12:59 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] US census master source
>
> Good morning,
>
> I'm just looking for input.  How do you handle the US (or any other) census
> as a master source?  It asks you to break it down by locality, state and
> county.  If you are dealing with diverse areas of the country, how do you
> differentiate the carious localities.
>
> Basically I'm wondering if anyone has a more efficient system than mine.
> For instance, I list the 1880 census for Randolph county, Indiana, as "1880
> US census [IN - Randolph].  It makes for a LOT of census entries.
>
> Any ideas, suggestions, etc, or am I making the best of an awkward source?
>
> Thanks
>
> Maureen
>
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [LegacyUG] Analyse Source Quality

2014-04-25 Thread Brian/Support
Yes, there is a suggestion recorded in our system to include results in
reports and to filter the citations used in reports based on the
evidence analysis entries.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 25/04/2014 2:41 PM, Paula Ryburn wrote:
> Has anyone submitted a suggestion on this one yet?  I don't want to duplicate 
> effort.
>
> --Paula



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Re: [LegacyUG] Analyse Source Quality

2014-04-25 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 25/04/2014 19:41, Paula Ryburn wrote:
> Has anyone submitted a suggestion on this one yet?  I don't want to
> duplicate effort.
> --Paula
>
> 
> *From:* Kathy Thompson 
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 24, 2013 6:12 AM
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Analyse Source Quality
>
> What is the point of this feature?
>
> I understand it has to do with evidence and proof - but why has it been
> included in Legacy and where do we see the results of answering the
> individual questions?

It's to assist you in analysing a Source and making up your own mind as
to its value.


--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] US census master source

2014-04-25 Thread Paula Ryburn
And if you are using Legacy's SourceWriter templates, Legacy itself will force 
you to separate the TYPES of census records in a given census year.
("tangled web" comes to mind when I stop to ponder SW templates...)
 
--Paula 



 From: Michele/Support 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 6:52 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] US census master source


This goes back to preferring to be a  lumper or a splitter.  It really is 
personal preference.  I like to have my citations mirror the ones in Evidence 
Explained so for census records I am a splitter. You see how I do it based on 
how I have them listed in my Master Source List.  All entries are Ancestry.com 
unless I have (FS).


Census Records - Federal - Georgia - Columbia County - 1880
Census Records - Federal - Georgia - Columbia County - 1880 mortality
Census Records - Federal - Georgia - Richmond County - 1850
Census Records - Federal - Georgia - Richmond County - 1850 slave
Census Records - Federal - Mississippi - Perry County - 1850
Census Records - Federal - Mississippi - Perry County - 1860
Census Records - State - Mississippi - Perry County - 1845 (FS)
Census Records - State - Mississippi - Perry County - 1853 (FS)


Yes, I have a lot of entries but they are organized in such a way that it makes 
it very easy for me to find what I am looking for.


Michele
Technical Support
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 10:29 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] US census master source

I treat the 1880 US Federal Census as a single master source entity, but 
consider the different indexes (Ancestry vs Family Search vs others) as 
separate master source entities.  I put the state and county info with the 
other detail info.


-Original Message-
From: Maureen Lake [mailto:arespo...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 12:59 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] US census master source

Good morning,

I'm just looking for input.  How do you handle the US (or any other) census as 
a master source?  It asks you to break it down by locality, state and county.  
If you are dealing with diverse areas of the country, how do you differentiate 
the carious localities.

Basically I'm wondering if anyone has a more efficient system than mine.  For 
instance, I list the 1880 census for Randolph county, Indiana, as "1880 US 
census [IN - Randolph].  It makes for a LOT of census entries.

Any ideas, suggestions, etc, or am I making the best of an awkward source?

Thanks

Maureen

Sent from my iPad


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Re: [LegacyUG] Analyse Source Quality

2014-04-25 Thread Paula Ryburn
Has anyone submitted a suggestion on this one yet?  I don't want to duplicate 
effort.
 
--Paula



 From: Kathy Thompson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 6:12 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Analyse Source Quality



What is the point of this feature?


I understand it has to do with evidence and proof - but why has it been 
included in Legacy and where do we see the results of answering the individual 
questions?


Yes, I also understand it is optional, but if the results of selecting the 
answers don't show up anywhere - what's the point of having it?


Or am I missing something about it?


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Re: [LegacyUG] US census master source

2014-04-25 Thread Paula Ryburn
Maureen, I am a county-level lumper for US Federal censuses, so I have a lot of 
census master sources.
On top of that, I have tried to follow the rules about separate sources 
including the online database (HeritageQuest, Ancestry, FamilySearch), so 
that's counties times three!
 
--Paula 



 From: Kurt Kneeland 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 9:28 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] US census master source


I treat the 1880 US Federal Census as a single master source entity, but 
consider the different indexes (Ancestry vs Family Search vs others) as 
separate master source entities.  I put the state and county info with the 
other detail info.


-Original Message-
From: Maureen Lake [mailto:arespo...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2013 12:59 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] US census master source

Good morning,

I'm just looking for input.  How do you handle the US (or any other) census as 
a master source?  It asks you to break it down by locality, state and county.  
If you are dealing with diverse areas of the country, how do you differentiate 
the carious localities.

Basically I'm wondering if anyone has a more efficient system than mine.  For 
instance, I list the 1880 census for Randolph county, Indiana, as "1880 US 
census [IN - Randolph].  It makes for a LOT of census entries.

Any ideas, suggestions, etc, or am I making the best of an awkward source?

Thanks

Maureen



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Re: [LegacyUG] Analyse Source Quality

2014-04-25 Thread Paula Ryburn
Agreed.  Genealogical Proof Standard should be used by all.
My beef is not being able to look at all evidence and associated source quality 
analysis for an individual to draw a conclusion.
For example, we are sometimes trying to prove someone is someone else's parent. 
 A printout of the child's and the parent's full picture would help us 
determine that "hey, I have enough indirect (e.g.) evidence to say this is the 
correct relationship".

I thought these settings would replace the more generic Surety Level---that's 
why I expected to be able to set these to print somewhere.
 
--Paula 



 From: Michele/Support 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 6:31 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Analyse Source Quality


Not at all!  Advanced researchers analyze evidence this way but this is also a 
great way for beginners/intermediates to also learn to evaluate evidence. If 
you do a Google search for Genealogical Proof Standard you can read more about 
it.  Here are the steps http://www.bcgcertification.org/resources/standard.html 
 Analyzing the data is step 3.


Michele
Technical Support
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
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-Original Message-
From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 6:29 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Analyse Source Quality

Ok, so would you say that this feature would be more helpful for those who are 
just starting out and/or are not certain of their skills or the source, rather 
than those who have been doing this for a while now and are confident of their 
own judgments?

Kathy

> On 25 Dec 2013, at 12:47 am, "Michele/Support"  
> wrote:
>
> Kathy,
> This feature mirrors Elizabeth Shown Mills Evidence Analysis Process Map 
> https://www.evidenceexplained.com/content/quicklesson-17-evidence-analysis-process-map
>
> It is a way to assess weight to each piece of evidence which helps you 
> determine how credible it is.  This concept was further explained by Tom 
> Jones in his book Mastering Genealogical Proof.
>
> For professional genealogists and those seeking BCG certification, knowing 
> how to evaluate the evidence is crucial.  Many of those people use Legacy.
>
> This is a totally optional feature.
>
>
> Michele
> Technical Support
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> From: Kathy Thompson [mailto:kmthoms...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 7:39 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Analyse Source Quality
>
> I read that Ron - but it doesn't answer my question of what use is it if we 
> don't get any feedback from our answers.
> And does it show up in any source printouts on reports? if it is supposed to 
> please tell me how to get it to as it's not doing that for me.
>
> On 24 December 2013 22:24, Ron Bernier  wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Kathy Thompson  wrote:
> What is the point of this feature?
> I understand it has to do with evidence and proof - but why has it been 
> included in Legacy and where do we see the results of answering the 
> individual questions?
> Yes, I also understand it is optional, but if the results of selecting the 
> answers don't show up anywhere - what's the point of having it?
> Or am I missing something about it?
>
>
> As you indicated - use is optional.  It assists you in determining your level 
> of confidence in the source information you are utilizing.  >From Legacy help:
>
> "The Source Quality screen is reached by clicking the Analyze Source Quality 
> button on the Detail Information tab of the Source Citation Detail screen.
>
> The basic principle is explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills in her Evidence 
> Explained book:
>
> SOURCES provide INFORMATION from which we select EVIDENCE for ANALYSIS.  A 
> sound CONCLUSION may then be considered "PROOF."
>
> SOURCE
> Select whether this source is an Original or a Derivative of the original.  
> Or choose I don't know if you are not sure.
>
> INFORMATION
> Select Primary if the information in the source was provided by someone with 
> firsthand knowledge, or Secondary if the information is secondhand.  Or 
> again, I don't know if you are not sure.
>
> EVIDENCE
> If the source answers the question you are trying to resolve all by itself, 
> select Direct.  If the source helps to answer the research question but 
> doesn't do it directly, select Indirect.  Or, if you can infer an answer to 
> the research question by the lack of information in the source, select 
> Negative.  Or, if you are not sure, select I don't know."
>
>
> Ron Bernier
> Woonsocket, RI
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Analyse Source Quality

2014-04-25 Thread Paula Ryburn
Kathy means that it would be nice to run (say) and Individual Report with 
source citations at the end that INCLUDE what she entered on the analyze source 
quality screen.  I whole-heartedly agree with her!  I would like to be able to 
look at all the evidence and determine if I have enough to have proven a fact.

Why put the information into the database if you can never get it back out 
again?
 
--Paula 



 From: Ron Bernier 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 6:48 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Analyse Source Quality



Kathy,

The analysis is optional because it is intended for you to be able to determine 
the level of confidence you have in the source you are citing.  I fail to 
understand what feedback you expect.  Why would you expect your own analysis to 
show up in a printout?  Again, the analysis of the source you are citing is for 
your use. 


Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI


On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Kathy Thompson  wrote:

I read that Ron - but it doesn't answer my question of what use is it if we 
don't get any feedback from our answers.
>
>And does it show up in any source printouts on reports? if it is supposed to 
>please tell me how to get it to as it's not doing that for me.
>
>
>
>
>On 24 December 2013 22:24, Ron Bernier  wrote:
>
>
>>
>>On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Kathy Thompson  wrote:
>>
>>What is the point of this feature?
>>>
>>>
>>>I understand it has to do with evidence and proof - but why has it been 
>>>included in Legacy and where do we see the results of answering the 
>>>individual questions?
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, I also understand it is optional, but if the results of selecting the 
>>>answers don't show up anywhere - what's the point of having it?
>>>
>>>
>>>Or am I missing something about it?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>As you indicated - use is optional.  It assists you in determining your level 
>>of confidence in the source information you are utilizing.  >From Legacy help:
>>
>>
>>"The Source Quality screen is reached by clicking the Analyze Source Quality 
>>button on the Detail Information tab of the Source Citation Detail screen.  
>> 
>>The basic principle is explained by Elizabeth Shown Mills in
her Evidence Explained book:
>> 
>>SOURCES provide INFORMATION from which we select EVIDENCE for
ANALYSIS.  A sound CONCLUSION may then be considered "PROOF."  
>> 
>>SOURCE
>>Select whether this source is an Original or a Derivative of the original.  
>>Or chooseI don't know if you are not
sure.
>> 
>>INFORMATION
>>Select Primary if the information in the source was provided
by someone with firsthand knowledge, or Secondary if the information is
secondhand.  Or again,I don't know if you are not sure.
>> 
>>EVIDENCE
>>If the source answers the question you are trying to resolve all by
itself, select Direct.  If the source helps to answer the research
question but doesn't do it directly, select Indirect.  Or, if you can
infer an answer to the research question by the lack of information in the
source, select Negative.  Or, if you are not sure, select I don't
know."
>>
>>
>>Ron Bernier
>>Woonsocket, RI
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Re: [LegacyUG] Analyse Source Quality

2014-04-25 Thread Paula Ryburn
Not helpful if not associated with the individual whose fact you are trying to 
prove... at least that's how I see it.

ADMITTEDLY, I have not finished reading this thread! ;)
 
--Paula 



 From: Brian/Support 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Analyse Source Quality


You can include your analysis in the Source Citation Report (Available
from the Master List of Sources) when you include the Master Sources and
all citations to each one. The analysis is applied at the source details
level when a source is cited for an event.

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Re: [LegacyUG] e-mailing questionnaire

2014-04-25 Thread magnoliasouth
I'll second the Google Spreadsheet / Form idea. That seems easiest AND
the benefit is that you can email that to your entire family to fill
out online. Heck, that's such a great idea I might just do that myself
right now!



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Re: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs

2014-04-25 Thread Paula Ryburn
I have added an "Alt. Spelling" event and record misspellings there.  Or 
sometimes (especially with census records) I might have it in the Event Notes.  
For example, Lizzie was enumerated as "Lissie".
Like Jenny, I would not use "AKA" if there is no proof the person was known by 
that name.  Then there're "quoted" names and nicknames, too, right?  All less 
"serious" than the AKA functionality.  I don't want someone showing up in the 
Name List (Index?) more times than necessary, or useful for my research 
purposes.
 
--Paula 



 From: Jenny M Benson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2014 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] When to use AKAs


On 09/01/2014 17:19, Brian/Support wrote:
> If the person is indexed under the name, incorrect as it may be, how
> will you find them again in other places which derive their data from
> the original place which contains the error without having recorded that
> spelling error as an AKA? Yes you said you put the name as it was
> recorded in the source transcription but the AKA is a more visible place
> to see that somewhere his name was recorded with that transcription error.

It may be more visible there, but in my view it implies that the person
WAS KNOWN by that different version of the name, which is not so.

I have one instance in my database where a whole family was listed in
the Census with the wrong surname.  (Probably an error of the Enumerator
made when copying from the original forms to the books which we see.)
It would cause no end of confusion if I implied that the Ashworths were
also known as the Birtwistles.  On the other hand, I have a family where
the father and several children were known for some years as Dinnage
rather than Pitt and so they have Dinnage recorded as an AKA.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Individual [Chart] Report - Source options tab question

2014-04-25 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 25/04/2014 18:46, Paula Ryburn wrote:
> Format source title according to master source formatting option

Where are you seeing this?  I presumed you meant the Report
Options>Sources tab, but I don't see any such checkbox there and don't
see any other mention of Source options for an Individual Report.

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Re: [LegacyUG] e-mailing questionnaire

2014-04-25 Thread Paula Ryburn
Sometimes I sacrifice geeky in the name of just getting the information to me.  
;)
 
--Paula 



 From: Brian L. Lightfoot 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 12:48 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] e-mailing questionnaire



Yeah, but its more geeky to do a “post/submit” HTML code through your own 
domain. J
 
Brian in CA
 
 
From:Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 10:23 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] e-mailing questionnaire
 
You could even just copy & paste the text into the body of the email.  They 
click "reply", fill in their answers, and click "send".
 
--Paula
 



From:Jenny M Benson 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] e-mailing questionnaire

On 24/04/2014 17:29, Betty Campbell wrote:
> Is there a way of e-mailing the questionnaire to a family member so that
> they can complete the answers on-line, instead of having to print it
> out, and then return it back to you?

Save it as a Text file and e-mail that, then your family member can edit
it to add their answers and e-mail it back to you.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Pedigree Chart Colors

2014-04-25 Thread Paula Ryburn
My bad:  it's in the Subject.  This is only an issue for the pedigree chart, 
right?  On screen or report or both?  Thanks!
 
--Paula 



 From: Paula Ryburn 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pedigree Chart Colors



What?
Maybe I'm not reading the thread correctly.
Are we talking about the 2nd set of colors and/or 8 colors currently not 
available IN A PARTICULAR view or report?
 
--Paula 



 From: Brian/Support 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pedigree Chart Colors


The current release of Legacy has not implemented the use of a second
set of colours nor has it implemented the new 8 colour option that was
added in Legacy 8. The programmers are working on implementing those new
options and the change will be included in a future update to Legacy.

Brian
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On 24/04/2014 3:09 PM, Robert Stewart wrote:
> My starting person happens to be my son.
>
> I have gone with the 8-color route coloring all his ancestry, both on my
> side, and my wifes.  (I've got the 1st, light, set, my wife's the 2nd,
> the darker version of the colors.)
>
> The pedigree chart coloration option, however, appears to be only
> 4-colors.  I didn't equate the on-screen "Ancestor Color" with the pedigree
> chart option.
>
> Is that to say on-screen, I have the option to show 2 color schemes, 8
> colors total, but in a printed/pdf pedigree chart it will only show the 1st
> and is limited to 4 colors?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Brian/Support
> wrote:
>
>> Pedigree chart colours are not based on the starting person for the
>> chart they are based on the starting person from Tools > Set Ancestor
>> Colours. If the starting person for ancestor colours was the father that
>> is why only his ancestors were coloured. If you were creating a chart
>> for someone who is not even in the starting person's line none of the
>> people would be coloured.
>>
>> Brian
>> Customer Support
>> Millennia Corporation
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>>
>> On 24/04/2014 8:11 AM, Robert Stewart wrote:
>>> I wanted
 to run a pedigree chart for an individual.
>>>
>>> I selected the option for four colors, where the individual was blue,
>>> the father's father as blue, the father's mother tan, the mother's father
>>> green, and mother's mother pink.
>>>
>>> What happened however is the individual's father's family received all
>> the
>>> colors (as if coloration was based on, and started with, the individuals
>>> father) and the individual's mother's family received none.
>>>
>>> Pedigree chart coloration should start with, and be based on, the target
>>> individual, not their family.
>>>
>>> What have I done wrong in generating the report that it would turn out
>> this
>>> way?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
 Robert
>>
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RE: [LegacyUG] e-mailing questionnaire

2014-04-25 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot
Yeah, but its more geeky to do a “post/submit” HTML code through your own 
domain. J



Brian in CA





From: Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 10:23 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] e-mailing questionnaire



You could even just copy & paste the text into the body of the email.  They 
click "reply", fill in their answers, and click "send".



--Paula



  _

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Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] e-mailing questionnaire


On 24/04/2014 17:29, Betty Campbell wrote:
> Is there a way of e-mailing the questionnaire to a family member so that
> they can complete the answers on-line, instead of having to print it
> out, and then return it back to you?

Save it as a Text file and e-mail that, then your family member can edit
it to add their answers and e-mail it back to you.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Print out of all info and images in family file

2014-04-25 Thread Paula Ryburn
So, my "everything" report was 3655 pages (PDF).
Interesting, though:  I checked to print a Bibliography at the end...  It had 
only ONE item in it...?!?
Conspicuously, the one item in the Bibliography is the one & only item cited on 
the last person printed in the report.
Should I report a bug?

When I run it just for me, the Bibliography looks complete.  "Hmm..."
 
--Paula 



 From: Kurt Kneeland 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 12:38 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Print out of all info and images in family file



I think the closest you can get to “everything” is the Individual Chart Report. 
 You can select “everyone” for the records to report.  In report options, go 
through and select everything possible, including stuff under Privacy, Media, 
Events, etc.  You probably want to turn off the Chronology option.  The report 
will print in alphabetical order (last name, first name) so you probably don’t 
need the index unless you want the cross-references of where the individuals 
show as children, parents, spouse, etc of other individuals.  Note that this 
report will take a very long time to run if you have a large file.  I ran one 
for about a 1000 individuals and it took 2 – 3 minutes.
 
From:Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 10:28 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print out of all info and images in family file
 
Pat,  What are you trying to find out?  Is there a problem you're trying to 
solve?  Or are you just trying to figure out how to share an outline of the 
information you have easily with someone else?  I think this is a case where 
"the end justifies the means" but we need to know your "end" in order to 
suggest a "means"... ?
 
--Paula 
 



From:Pat Hickin 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print out of all info and images in family file
 
Well, what I want is just about what I said -- a print-out that includes all 
the info and images in my database -- in some reasonably well-organized fashion.
 
I haven't thought beyond that.
 
Pat
 
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:
Short answer No

What are you trying to achieve?

You could use the Name List to get a printout of certain information
(of your choice) on everyone in your database.

You can use the View - Scrapbook and choose ALL in all sections to
get a printout of the images - they're not  usually in an order you'd
expect. You can get a  list of images attached if you choose that
option rather than the images themselves and that may be more
helpful.  It really depends what you are wanting.

Cathy

At 11:55 PM 20/04/2014, you wrote:
>Is there any easy way to get Legacy to give me a printout of
>everyone and all images in my database??
>
>Pat




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Re: [LegacyUG] Print out of all info and images in family file

2014-04-25 Thread Paula Ryburn
This is kind of fun:  just passed 900 pages on my run... going to PDF, of 
course!!! ;)
I should have at least one page per individual, right?
 
--Paula 



 From: Kurt Kneeland 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 12:38 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Print out of all info and images in family file



I think the closest you can get to “everything” is the Individual Chart Report. 
 You can select “everyone” for the records to report.  In report options, go 
through and select everything possible, including stuff under Privacy, Media, 
Events, etc.  You probably want to turn off the Chronology option.  The report 
will print in alphabetical order (last name, first name) so you probably don’t 
need the index unless you want the cross-references of where the individuals 
show as children, parents, spouse, etc of other individuals.  Note that this 
report will take a very long time to run if you have a large file.  I ran one 
for about a 1000 individuals and it took 2 – 3 minutes.




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RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Centre File Renaming

2014-04-25 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot
Wowit's little improvements like this that help eliminate some of the 
little annoyances that occur in everyday use of Legacy. We all have been 
waiting for this one for a long time.

Brian in CA


-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 9:24 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Picture Centre File Renaming

On 16 Apr Pat Hickin mentioned that the Picture Centre does not autofill the 
file name when you click the Rename button on the Attached Pictures or on the 
Picture List tabs in the picture centre. We had that in our reporting system 
already but I added her report to the issue.

The problem has been fixed and will be available in the next update to Legacy 
8.0. I do not know when that update will be issued. You can check for updates 
by selecting the Legacy Home tab. The updates section will tell you when a new 
update is available and, if you have the deluxe version, allow you to update 
from within Legacy. Standard version users will have to obtain the update from 
our web site.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Pedigree Chart Colors

2014-04-25 Thread Paula Ryburn
What?
Maybe I'm not reading the thread correctly.
Are we talking about the 2nd set of colors and/or 8 colors currently not 
available IN A PARTICULAR view or report?
 
--Paula 



 From: Brian/Support 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pedigree Chart Colors


The current release of Legacy has not implemented the use of a second
set of colours nor has it implemented the new 8 colour option that was
added in Legacy 8. The programmers are working on implementing those new
options and the change will be included in a future update to Legacy.

Brian
Customer Support
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On 24/04/2014 3:09 PM, Robert Stewart wrote:
> My starting person happens to be my son.
>
> I have gone with the 8-color route coloring all his ancestry, both on my
> side, and my wifes.  (I've got the 1st, light, set, my wife's the 2nd,
> the darker version of the colors.)
>
> The pedigree chart coloration option, however, appears to be only
> 4-colors.  I didn't equate the on-screen "Ancestor Color" with the pedigree
> chart option.
>
> Is that to say on-screen, I have the option to show 2 color schemes, 8
> colors total, but in a printed/pdf pedigree chart it will only show the 1st
> and is limited to 4 colors?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Brian/Support
> wrote:
>
>> Pedigree chart colours are not based on the starting person for the
>> chart they are based on the starting person from Tools > Set Ancestor
>> Colours. If the starting person for ancestor colours was the father that
>> is why only his ancestors were coloured. If you were creating a chart
>> for someone who is not even in the starting person's line none of the
>> people would be coloured.
>>
>> Brian
>> Customer Support
>> Millennia Corporation
>> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>>
>> On 24/04/2014 8:11 AM, Robert Stewart wrote:
>>> I wanted to run a pedigree chart for an individual.
>>>
>>> I selected the option for four colors, where the individual was blue,
>>> the father's father as blue, the father's mother tan, the mother's father
>>> green, and mother's mother pink.
>>>
>>> What happened however is the individual's father's family received all
>> the
>>> colors (as if coloration was based on, and started with, the individuals
>>> father) and the individual's mother's family received none.
>>>
>>> Pedigree chart coloration should start with, and be based on, the target
>>> individual, not their family.
>>>
>>> What have I done wrong in generating the report that it would turn out
>> this
>>> way?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Robert
>>
>>
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[LegacyUG] Individual [Chart] Report - Source options tab question

2014-04-25 Thread Paula Ryburn
Format source title according to master source formatting option

What does this option mean?  It's not in Help.  It's a check box.  Do I ever 
want the source title to be printed--isn't that the name I use in the master 
source list?

Thanks.
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Event Definition Sentence

2014-04-25 Thread Paula Ryburn
Cathy, Thanks for all the background & information.  I thought I had kept up 
with what was coming v8, but I don't remember ever hearing about this change.  
I think it might be nice for newbies, but for those of us who have used the 
fully flexible sentence structure functionality, it feels like a nightmare.  I 
mean, I am dreading even thinking about how I would check to see how this 
hard-coded change may have damaged how my events show on reports.  *sigh*  

Did someone actually ask for this, I wonder...
 
--Paula 



 From: Cathy Pinner 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:49 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Event Definition Sentence


Mercifully, if you have [Notes] and/or [Sources] in the Event
Sentence Definition they only appear once.
This is the case even if for some events you rely on the tick in the
Report Options - event options - tick to include event notes to
include event notes.

If you want the notes to start on a new line you need to include
[CR][Notes] in your Event Sentence Definitions.

Paula,
The tick box in the Report Options to include Event notes does not
override the tick on the Event itself to exclude the note from reports.

These myriad of tick boxes work the same as the tick boxes in the
sources which have always been with us though we probably don't
notice them so much as most of them are set the defaults and forget.

The difference is that with the tick boxes on eg Source Detail Text
and Comments, if you've set the default to be unticked, you tick to include.
However, with Event Notes, the default is to have the notes checkbox
checked and its not a default that can be controlled.

Personally I don't like the new system for Event Notes. I argued
against it during development but didn't succeed.
I have also argued that if we have them, we ought to be able to reset
them in the same way as you can reset the source options in option
7.3. But that hasn't eventuated.
Apparently checkboxes are easier for most people to use rather than
the codes in Event Sentences. Mystery to me as I find them much
harder.  And to test whether all the varying options are working
properly is a nightmare.

Note that option 7.10 controls whether notes or sources comes first
if they're not included in the Sentence Definition.

Cathy

At 12:37 AM 25/04/2014, you wrote:
>Brian,
>Are the [Notes] and [Sources] redundant just in reports or in any
>constructed sentence? The Help text cites both as still being used in Legacy 8.
>When using an event sentence from Legacy 7 in Legacy 8, that
>included either a [Notes] or [Sources] field, will the notes and
>sources be printed twice; once from the inbuilt fields in Legacy 8
>and once from the [Notes] and [Sources] fields from Legacy 7?
>These fields are still recognised in Legacy 8 so I guess the answer is yes.
>
>Geoff
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:49 PM
>To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Definition Sentence
>
>Notes and Sources in event sentences in Legacy 8 are redundant. The
>Report options in Legacy 8 decide whether notes and sources are
>included in the reports not the event sentences. In Legacy 7.5 and
>earlier those had to be in the sentence or, even if notes and
>sources were asked for, they would not be included.
>
>Brian
>Customer Support
>Millennia Corporation
>br...@legacyfamilytree.com
>http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
>On 23/04/2014 1:52 PM, Charles Apple wrote:
> > I have noticed that Legacy 8 does not contain the [Notes] and
> > [Sources] placeholders in the default event sentences, however, files
> > that were converted from Legacy 7.5 to Legacy 8 display properly with
> > Notes and Sources. Is there a reason why the [Notes] and [Sources]
> > variables were left out? Are they redundant or not needed? I am not
> > having a problem, but I am trying to understand why the Event
> > Sentences in Legacy 8 are different from those in Legacy 7.5.
> >
> > I have checked the LUG archives and the Legacy 8 manual, and cannot
> > find a satisfactory answer to my question. I am using Legacy 8 Deluxe
> > version 8.0.0.414.
> >
> > Thank you for your assistance,
> >
> > Charles




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Re: [LegacyUG] Location of images in v8 - not what I expected

2014-04-25 Thread familyhistorylady
Do you have to do that for every family file? In my One Name Study as family 
historian, I have over 25 lines which I could do if necessary. Until we send 
our book to the printer, I don't want to upgrade. We're too busy until then, 
but I want to get my mind prepared.

God bless,
Ellen

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 23, 2014, at 8:41 PM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:

> Gather My Media changes the links so that you
> don't have to relink everything yourself. Note
> that it only works if all the links are good. If
> some aren't it will tell you to run the Media Relinker first.
>
> Exactly how it works depends on the options chosen within it.
>
> It copies media that are not in YOUR default
> media folder you've selected at Options 6.2 to YOUR default media folder.
> If the default media folder has sub-folders,
> media there is left alone unless you check:
> Copy files from Sub Folders within the Media Folder up to the main Media 
> Folder
> That's the option that flattens your sub-folders.
>
> To say that in a different way as it's vital.
>
> Note that if you haven't designated the parent
> folder of your sub-folders as your default media
> folder, then all the media will be copied to
> whatever folder Legacy thinks is your default
> media folder and the sub-folder structure will be
> lost whether this checkbox is checked or not.
>
> You MUST tell Legacy that the parent folder of
> your media sub-folders is the Default Media Folder.
>
> Cathy
>
> At 06:28 AM 24/04/2014, you wrote:
>> So if you use Gather My Media, will it move
>> where you currently have your photos from
>> multiple folders?  Will you have to relink
>> everything from everywhere individually on your own?
>> God bless,
>> Ellen
>>
>>
>> --
>> From: "Paul Gray" 
>> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:23:32 PM
>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location of images in v8 - not what I expected
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> I agree with you. I have my multimedia
>> collection organised (well, sort of organised)
>> the way I want it in a series of folders and
>> subfolders. I do not use the “Legacy Multimedia” folder.
>>
>> · Some of the images are genealogy related, others not.
>>
>> · Only a very small portion of even the
>> genealogical images will ever be linked in
>> Legacy. I have many photos of Grandma, but not
>> all of them are linked to Legacy.
>>
>> · I have a backup strategy which backs
>> up all of my multimedia at once, regardless of
>> whether it is genealogical or not or whether it
>> is linked to Legacy or not. For this reason, I
>> find the Legacy multimedia backup very limited
>> (and I don’t use it) because as I understand
>> it, it only backs up those images that are
>> linked to a person, event, or source. I want to
>> back up all photos of Grandma, not just those linked in Legacy.
>>
>> My two cents
>
> .<¦.
>>
>> Paul Gray
>>
>> From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: April-22-14 10:16 AM
>> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location of images in v8 - not what I expected
>>
>> I prefer for mine to be where they've always
>> been in my own folders and subfolders.  Mine are
>> all categorized.  I don't like them all lumped
>> into one folder.  It's too hard to find images if they're all in one place.
>>
>> William Boswell
>>
>> From: Paula Ryburn
>> [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
>> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:08 PM
>> To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Location of images in v8 - not what I expected
>>
>> Okay, so I've finally upgraded to v8.
>> I see that my database has been copied to My Documents and converted.
>> However, none of my charts or pictures have been
>> moved out of the old Legacy folders.
>> Did you guys all move your images over to the My
>> Documents area?  Pros/cons of doing so?
>>
>> I guess I expected the old Legacy folders to go
>> away... or at least that once I had successfully
>> upgraded, they were obsolete & could be
>> deleted.  What's the strategy behind this sort
>> of split implementation?  Some stuff in the new
>> location and some stuff in the old location?
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> --Paula in Texas
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Logic for statistics reports

2014-04-25 Thread Paula Ryburn
Thanks, David.  My plan was to read their logic (and maybe their rationale) and 
then enter a suggestion on how I (a user) would like to see the stats 
calculated. ;)  It's a neat feature in v8, but not so snazzy if the logic is 
not meaningful.
 
--Paula 



 From: David Newton 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Logic for statistics reports



Hi Paula

There was an eventually fruitless discussion about this problem last
December

http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup%40legacyusers.com/msg33263.html

I have to confess I did not report this as a bug because I dont'
think it is a bug.  In my opinion this is a result of faulty logic
in the programming of the statistics calculations for lifespan by
century and until someone representing Legacy comes clean and
explains why this is happening and what they are going to do about
it then the only safe advice is to ignore those statistics and not
place too much trust in the rest.

David




On 21/04/2014 00:58, Paula Ryburn wrote:

Is there a place where they explain how the stats are calculated?  Wondering 
why my average age for individuals in 1900-1999 is just 6 years old...?!
> 
>--Paula in Texas
>Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave
  Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton
  Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale
  Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones
  Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts
  Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams
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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problem - Unrecognized Event Date

2014-04-25 Thread Paula Ryburn
Thank you, ladies.  That was my main beef:  Once I clicked to ignore this PP on 
this person/event, Legacy did NOT ignore it.  Entering a bug report...
 
--Paula


 From: Jenny M Benson 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 3:31 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problem - Unrecognized Event Date


On 25/04/2014 04:09, Cathy Pinner wrote:
> However, I think there is a bug in that you don't seem to be able to
> override the problem checking for this particular event OR override
> the date checking for the individual.
>
> Jenny, have you been able to exclude a problem like this?

Yes and no!  I admit I had not specifically checked with this particular
problem, so I just tried entering an Event date as "until 1945" and got
the red warning, of course.  I right-clicked on the red warning and
chose the option to exclude date checking for that individual and the
red warning went away ON THE FAMILY VIEW although it did remain in the
column next to the Event on the Individual's Information screen.

I can live with that, but I think it's a bug that it doesn't go away
completely.

--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] e-mailing questionnaire

2014-04-25 Thread Paula Ryburn
You could even just copy & paste the text into the body of the email.  They 
click "reply", fill in their answers, and click "send".
 
--Paula



 From: Jenny M Benson 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] e-mailing questionnaire


On 24/04/2014 17:29, Betty Campbell wrote:
> Is there a way of e-mailing the questionnaire to a family member so that
> they can complete the answers on-line, instead of having to print it
> out, and then return it back to you?

Save it as a Text file and e-mail that, then your family member can edit
it to add their answers and e-mail it back to you.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] FGR - could u pls verify this problem?

2014-04-25 Thread Paula Ryburn
Thanks - I will report the bug.
 
--Paula 



 From: Boyd Miller 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 4:32 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FGR - could u pls verify this problem?



I'm getting the same problem.  I think we have a bug - the function to combine 
events into one paragraph is not working.
Boyd

On 25/04/2014 4:50 a.m., C.G. Ouimet wrote:

I get the same …
> 
> 
>C.G. Ouimet
>Kingston ON
> 
>From:Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
>Sent: April 24, 2014 11:51 AM
>To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: [LegacyUG] FGR - could u pls verify this problem?
> 
>I'm running FGR for myself & hubby.
>Report Options > Format tab > Event Narrative Format button >
>Use event sentence formatting > Combine all events into one paragraph
> 
>Not getting the one paragraph.
>Rather, I am getting what looks like "Nothing preceding each event".
> 
>Can you confirm this issue? Or let me know it is working for you?
>Thanks!!
> 
>--Paula in Texas
>Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley
Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll
Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh
Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell
McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams



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RE: [LegacyUG] Picture Centre File Renaming

2014-04-25 Thread C.G. Ouimet
Very good ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON

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From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: April 25, 2014 12:24 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Picture Centre File Renaming

On 16 Apr Pat Hickin mentioned that the Picture Centre does not autofill the 
file name when you click the Rename button on the Attached Pictures or on the 
Picture List tabs in the picture centre. We had that in our reporting system 
already but I added her report to the issue.

The problem has been fixed and will be available in the next update to Legacy 
8.0. I do not know when that update will be issued. You can check for updates 
by selecting the Legacy Home tab. The updates section will tell you when a new 
update is available and, if you have the deluxe version, allow you to update 
from within Legacy. Standard version users will have to obtain the update from 
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[LegacyUG] Picture Centre File Renaming

2014-04-25 Thread Brian/Support
On 16 Apr Pat Hickin mentioned that the Picture Centre does not autofill
the file name when you click the Rename button on the Attached Pictures
or on the Picture List tabs in the picture centre. We had that in our
reporting system already but I added her report to the issue.

The problem has been fixed and will be available in the next update to
Legacy 8.0. I do not know when that update will be issued. You can check
for updates by selecting the Legacy Home tab. The updates section will
tell you when a new update is available and, if you have the deluxe
version, allow you to update from within Legacy. Standard version users
will have to obtain the update from our web site.

Brian
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RE: [LegacyUG] Print out of all info and images in family file

2014-04-25 Thread Kurt Kneeland
I was talking about generating the report to screen, not the actual printing.

-Original Message-
From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 11:28 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Print out of all info and images in family file

Kurt,

I think you meant hours. ;-)
2 to 3 minutes to print 1000 individual reports is incredibly fast.

Cathy

At 01:38 AM 25/04/2014, you wrote:
>I think the closest you can get to
> ??everything ?  is the Individual Chart Report.   You can select
> ??everyone ?  for the records to report.   In report options, go
>through and select everything possible, including stuff under Privacy,
>Media, Events, etc.   You probably want to turn off the Chronology
>option.   The report will print in alphabetical order (last name, first
>name) so you probably don ??t need the index unless you want the
>cross-references of where the individuals show as children, parents,
>spouse, etc of other individuals.   Note that this report will take a
>very long time to run if you have a large file.   I ran one for about a
>1000 individuals and it took 2 ? 3 minutes.<
>
>From: Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
>Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 10:28 AM
>To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print out of all info and images in family file
>
>Pat,  What are you trying to find out?  Is there a problem you're
>trying to solve?  Or are you just trying to figure out how to share an
>outline of the information you have easily with someone else?  I think
>this is a case where "the end justifies the means" but we need to know
>your "end" in order to suggest a "means"... ?
>
>--Paula
>
>
>From: Pat Hickin <pph...@gmail.com>
>To:
>legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 7:53 PM
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print out of all info and images in family file
>
>Well, what I want is just about what I said -- a print-out that
>includes all the info and images in my database -- in some reasonably
>well-organized fashion.
>
>I haven't thought beyond that.
>
>Pat
>
>On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Cathy Pinner
><genea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Short answer No
>
>What are you trying to achieve?
>
>You could use the Name List to get a printout of certain information
>(of your choice) on everyone in your database.
>
>You can use the View - Scrapbook and choose ALL in all sections to get
>a printout of the images - they're not  usually in an order you'd
>expect. You can get a  list of images attached if you choose that
>option rather than the images themselves and that may be more helpful.
>It really depends what you are wanting.
>
>Cathy
>
>At 11:55 PM 20/04/2014, you wrote:
> >Is there any easy way to get Legacy to give me a printout of everyone
> >and all images in my database??
> >
> >Pat
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Vanishing Spouses?

2014-04-25 Thread singhals
As I told Cathy privately after viewing her screen-shots --
I understand that, it's what is supposed to happen.  It
didn't happen.

The lady once unlinked from her wrong husband did NOT have a
colored spouse icon with a 1 by it.  She had only children.
  I am really out of ways to express that, and by now I've
even forgotten who-all it was this happened to, so I'm just
going to hope that when I create a Descendant book for her
husband's ancestor it all falls properly into place.

Cheryl



Cathy Pinner wrote:
> Hi Cheryl,
>
> You don't understand what I'm suggesting you look at. I'll email you
> privately with a screen shot.
>
> If a person has children, in Legacy they have a marriage relationship
> even if to Unknown/Blank.
>
> Cathy
>
> At 02:51 AM 25/04/2014, you wrote:
>> Again, no, the wife (once unlinked from the wrong husband)
>> has NO relationship except to her children.
>>
>> Cheryl
>>
>>
>> Cathy Pinner wrote:
>>> Yes of course you can do it by unlinking and relinking but the way
>>> you do that is important.
>>>
>>> If one of the parties to the new relationship has children THEY
>>> already have a "marriage". If the children really belong to the new
>>> relationship you are adding you must make sure that the person you
>>> are adding is added as the other partner of that relationship.
>>>
>>> I think your problem is that you are going to the John Doe and then
>>> adding him to the wife with children and creating a second
>>> relationship for her, rather than going to the wife with children and
>>> then adding John Doe as the partner for that existing relationship.
>>>
>>> Do those wives have extra relationships?
>>>
>>> Cathy
>>>
>>> At 09:34 AM 24/04/2014, you wrote:
 Cathy Pinner wrote:
> Hi Cheryl,

 Hi.

>
> Did you find they had extra marriages?

 No; they had NO marriage.

> To avoid problems like this.

 The easy way to avoid it was to have not misread the doc
 first time around.

>
> 1.  always attach children to a couple rather than one parent if both
> parents are in the database. If you link to just a mother or just a
> father, you'll create an extra "marriage" for them to unknown.
>

 I had/have no interest in re-keying 50 or so descendants
 just because I omitted Brother A's wife and substituted
 Brother B's wife.  Unlink/link ought to be able to deal with
 that.

> 2. when adding a partner to someone with children, check whether you
> are adding them to the current "marriage" or a new one. If a new one,
> you'll create the 1/2 kids problem.

 Since Brother B had no wife until I tried to link one to
 him, this ought not to have applied.

> Note the checkbox: Add this person to the currently displayed marriage.

 Can't say I've ever seen a checkbox for that; I DO
 occasionally, at the whim of the computer, see a question
 Add this person as a Spouse to (some name here).

>

> Cathy
>
> At 11:28 PM 23/04/2014, you wrote:
>> Thanks, Cathy, but if I'm understanding Problem 11
>> correctly, it doesn't apply.
>>
>> And, considering what happened just now, it may just be that
>> what I'm doing is causing temporary memory/pointer/poke
>> problems.  Which ATC isn't unreasonable.
>>
>> Cheryl
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Cathy Pinner wrote:
>>> Hi Cheryl,
>>>
>>> It sounds as if you are creating extra marriages. Look at the
>>> marriage icon in Family View. How many times does it say the wife has
>>> been married? I suspect you are ending up having her married to an
>>> unknown/blank with the children and then married to the right John
>>> Deaux but not had any kids with him.
>>>
>>> Sounds like the John Deaux may also have two marriages - one with the
>>> kids and no wife and one with the wife and no kids.
>>>
>>> When you add a partner to a person with children, you have to make
>>> sure you are adding them to the right "family".
>>>
>>> There's a good right up on correcting incorrect links at
>>> http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/tipsRelationshipProblems.asp
>>>
>>> I think it's Problem 11 you need to read carefully for the initial
>>> problem you were trying to correct but now some of the others apply.
>>>
>>> Cathy
>>>
>>>
>>> At 12:38 AM 23/04/2014, you wrote:
 Occasionally I go to change a spouse who has been
 erroneously linked with the wrong John Deaux.

 EACH time I do that, the right John Deaux vanishes, leaving
 me with the right wife and the right children, but no Daddy.
   When I pull up Deaux-dad, the wife isn't there, but the
 kiddles are all showing as 1/2s. If I close the program and
 re-open, it corrects itself -- until I edit any of the
 children, and try to go back to the parents of whom only t

Re: [LegacyUG] FGR - could u pls verify this problem?

2014-04-25 Thread Boyd Miller
I'm getting the same problem.  I think we have a bug - the function to
combine events into one paragraph is not working.
Boyd
On 25/04/2014 4:50 a.m., C.G. Ouimet wrote:
>
> I get the same …
>
> C.G. Ouimet
>
> Kingston ON
>
> *From:*Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
> *Sent:* April 24, 2014 11:51 AM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] FGR - could u pls verify this problem?
>
> I'm running FGR for myself & hubby.
>
> Report Options > Format tab > Event Narrative Format button >
>
> Use event sentence formatting > Combine all events into one paragraph
>
> Not getting the one paragraph.
>
> Rather, I am getting what looks like "Nothing preceding each event".
>
> Can you confirm this issue? Or let me know it is working for you?
>
> Thanks!!
>
> --Paula in Texas
> Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton
> Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody
> Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale
> Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald
> Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer
> Sullivan Weller Williams
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problem - Unrecognized Event Date

2014-04-25 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 25/04/2014 04:09, Cathy Pinner wrote:
> However, I think there is a bug in that you don't seem to be able to
> override the problem checking for this particular event OR override
> the date checking for the individual.
>
> Jenny, have you been able to exclude a problem like this?

Yes and no!  I admit I had not specifically checked with this particular
problem, so I just tried entering an Event date as "until 1945" and got
the red warning, of course.  I right-clicked on the red warning and
chose the option to exclude date checking for that individual and the
red warning went away ON THE FAMILY VIEW although it did remain in the
column next to the Event on the Individual's Information screen.

I can live with that, but I think it's a bug that it doesn't go away
completely.

--
Jenny M Benson



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