Re: [LegacyUG] Printed Reports sometimes substitute "Cir" for "Abt" in date fields

[John S. Adams]

I have had the same problem for some years, going back to version 8, and 
probably before.  I presently have ver. 9.182 and the same problem.


John S. Adams
Ventura, CA



From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Mary Young 
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:59 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Printed Reports sometimes substitute "Cir" for "Abt" in 
date fields

Thanks, but I had looked at 5.7 Prefixes (gbl) but don't believe i explains 
this.
One of the options in 5.7 is  Typed: Circa, Cir, C.Displayed: Abt.
But I *never* type "Cir".   I type "Abt",  the screen displays "Abt".  Then the 
printed report has "Cir" (but only for some individuals, not all).
Still puzzled!
Mary

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 10:48 PM, Hogrooter . 
> wrote:
Go to Customize Section 5.7.  You can adjust the wording on dates.

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On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Mary Young 
> wrote:
I'm using Legacy 8, final update.
When creating Individual Charts, my input of "Abt" is being changed on the 
printed Reports to "Cir" (which I never use).
I have printouts from last October which show the same behaviour, for the same 
people.
I've been through Options>Customise but found nothing relevant.
Grateful if anyone knows why this is happening.
Mary Young







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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Cathy Pinner]

Yes Open Office does a better 
job,

I was just saying how to make it better in Excel if you don't want to 
also install Open Office.

Cathy




 
   	Michele/SupportTuesday,
 13 June 2017 10:27 PM
  Even if you do that, you will see 
weird stuff in your columns (aside from the prefixes).  It just isn’t a 
100% good thing.  Open Office does a much better job and has no problem 
with pre-1901 dates.  I use Excel for everything else but this.   Michele Simmons Lewis, CGLegacy Family Treemich...@legacyfamilytree.com
 www.legacyfamilytree.com   Certified Genealogist is a 
registered trademark and the designation CG is a service mark of the 
Board for Certification of Genealogists®, used under license by Board 
certificants who meet competency standards. From: LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of Cathy
 PinnerSent: Monday, June 12, 2017 10:25 PMTo: 
Legacy User Group Subject:
 Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day If you are going 
to be using Excel, the easiest work around for the date issue is to 
change the date format in Legacy at Options - Customise 5.1 to 
-mm-dd and then make the Date columns in Excel Number or Text rather
 than Date.You still have problems with the prefixes.CathyMichele/Support
 wrote:
 
   	Cathy PinnerTuesday,
 13 June 2017 10:25 AM
  If you are going to be using Excel, 
the easiest work around for the date issue is to change the date format 
in Legacy at Options - Customise 5.1 to -mm-dd and then make the 
Date columns in Excel Number or Text rather than Date.
You still have problems with the prefixes.

Cathy

Michele/Support wrote:
  
 
   	Michele/SupportTuesday,
 13 June 2017 12:40 AM
  If you are able to sort 
dates correctly in Excel then you are using aworkaround/add on.  You
 have to use a workaround and most of these are tooadvanced for the 
average user.  I tested this again recently using Excel 365which is 
their most updated version.  I could not sort the dates and thedates
 were all mangled.Michele Simmons Lewis, CGLegacy
 Family Treemich...@legacyfamilytree.com www.legacyfamilytree.com
  Certified Genealogist is a registered trademark and the 
designation CG is aservice mark of the Board for Certification of 
GenealogistsR, used underlicense by Board certificants who meet 
competency standards.-Original Message-From: 
LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] OnBehalf
 Of Pete BeattySent: Monday, June 12, 2017 10:36 AMTo: Legacy 
User Group Subject: Re: 
[LegacyUG] Tip of the DayMichele, your current tip contains the 
following: "Excel can't handlepre-1901 dates so you will have a 
problem sorting by columns." Excel Does not have a problem with 
dates prior 1901. It can handle allformats of dates. I have several 
spreadsheets with some having thousands ofrecords with dates ranging
 between 0900 and present. I can sort, and filterall records 
correctly.Perhaps you are referring to dates with prefixes. We 
sometimes think itemssuch as "bef" Or "c" as dates. Technically they
 are not components of adate. When you add them to a date, they are 
interpreted as a characterstring, not a date. As a character string,
 the entries are not sorted as adate.If this is the case, 
then excel can still properly sort. You may have todefine a format, a
 relatively simple process, or perform a simple cleanup.Pete
 
   	Pete BeattyMonday,
 12 June 2017 10:35 PM
  Michele, your current tip 
contains the following: "Excel can't handle pre-1901 dates so you will 
have a problem sorting by columns." Excel Does not have a 
problem with dates prior 1901. It can handle all formats of dates. I 
have several spreadsheets with some having thousands of records with 
dates ranging between 0900 and present. I can sort, and filter all 
records correctly.Perhaps you are referring to dates with 
prefixes. We sometimes think items such as "bef" Or "c" as dates. 
Technically they are not components of a date. When you add them to a 
date, they are interpreted as a character string, not a date. As a 
character string, the entries are not sorted as a date.If this 
is the case, then excel can still properly sort. You may have to define a
 format, a relatively simple process, or perform a simple cleanup.Pete




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Re: [LegacyUG] Significance of Underlined Numbers in Children's List (Family View)

[Brian Kelly]

This is one of the Legacy Options. See options > customize section 3.8. 
Bold and Underline on the children numbers can be used to indicate 
spouses and continued lines.


Use the other option which places an indicator at the end of the name 
instead of bold and underlines if you do not want the numbers underlined.


Brian Kelly

On 13-Jun-17 9:37 PM, Johanna Land wrote:

Hi -

I am new to LFT so this may be a question with an obvious answer that I am
just overlooking.  In the Family view the list of children is numbered.  I
noticed that some of the numbers are underlined and some are not. What is
the significance of the underlined number?  And is it possible to delete
the underline on all of them?  I have been searching for answers using
multiple help pages on the Legacy web site, the book that came with the
program, and Google ... with no luck.  (I should mention that I imported my
data from a GEDCOM file if that makes any difference.)

Any help with this will be much appreciated.
Thank you.
Johanna


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[LegacyUG] Significance of Underlined Numbers in Children's List (Family View)

[Johanna Land]

Hi -

I am new to LFT so this may be a question with an obvious answer that I am
just overlooking.  In the Family view the list of children is numbered.  I
noticed that some of the numbers are underlined and some are not. What is
the significance of the underlined number?  And is it possible to delete
the underline on all of them?  I have been searching for answers using
multiple help pages on the Legacy web site, the book that came with the
program, and Google ... with no luck.  (I should mention that I imported my
data from a GEDCOM file if that makes any difference.)

Any help with this will be much appreciated.
Thank you.
Johanna
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Re: [LegacyUG] Printed Reports sometimes substitute "Cir" for "Abt" in date fields

[Mary Young]

Thanks, but I had looked at 5.7 Prefixes (gbl) but don't believe i explains
this.
One of the options in 5.7 is  Typed: Circa, Cir, C.Displayed: Abt.
But I *never* type "Cir".   I type "Abt",  the screen displays "Abt".  Then
the printed report has "Cir" (but only for some individuals, not all).
Still puzzled!
Mary

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 10:48 PM, Hogrooter .  wrote:

> Go to Customize Section 5.7.  You can adjust the wording on dates.
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>> I'm using Legacy 8, final update.
>> When creating Individual Charts, my input of "Abt" is being changed on
>> the printed Reports to "Cir" (which I never use).
>> I have printouts from last October which show the same behaviour, for the
>> same people.
>> I've been through Options>Customise but found nothing relevant.
>> Grateful if anyone knows why this is happening.
>> Mary Young
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Re: [LegacyUG] Printed Reports sometimes substitute "Cir" for "Abt" in date fields

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Go to Customize Section 5.7.  You can adjust the wording on dates.


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On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Mary Young  wrote:

> I'm using Legacy 8, final update.
> When creating Individual Charts, my input of "Abt" is being changed on the
> printed Reports to "Cir" (which I never use).
> I have printouts from last October which show the same behaviour, for the
> same people.
> I've been through Options>Customise but found nothing relevant.
> Grateful if anyone knows why this is happening.
> Mary Young
>
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Printed Reports sometimes substitute "Cir" for "Abt" in date fields

[Mary Young]

I'm using Legacy 8, final update.
When creating Individual Charts, my input of "Abt" is being changed on the
printed Reports to "Cir" (which I never use).
I have printouts from last October which show the same behaviour, for the
same people.
I've been through Options>Customise but found nothing relevant.
Grateful if anyone knows why this is happening.
Mary Young
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Re: [LegacyUG] Lexington to Louisville

[Jill A Baty]

Thanks Michael.  I'm hoping there is some interest then I will pursue further!

Best Regards, 
Jill

On Jun 13, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Michael Slater  wrote:

What a fantastic idea, I would say go ahead!! I think that Geoff could give you 
the info you need for starting a LUG in KY.  Try contacting him.

> On 13 June 2017 at 10:42, Jill A Baty  wrote:
> Hi all I am still hoping to find or start a Local Legacy User Group in KY 
> that would meet monthly or every two weeks.  Please let me know if such a 
> group exists or if anyone is interested in meeting!  My thought is that we 
> could meet at a library.  Enter records together.  Exchange ideas.  Help each 
> other.
> 
> One concern folks had was that data entry requires intense concentration so 
> as to not make mistakes.  I would expect the group would want to work fairly 
> quietly for the most part?  I guess it would be up to the group.
> 
> Let me know if you are interested.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Jill
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Re: [LegacyUG] Lexington to Louisville

[Michael Slater]

What a fantastic idea, I would say go ahead!! I think that Geoff could give
you the info you need for starting a LUG in KY.  Try contacting him.

On 13 June 2017 at 10:42, Jill A Baty  wrote:

> Hi all I am still hoping to find or start a Local Legacy User Group in KY
> that would meet monthly or every two weeks.  Please let me know if such a
> group exists or if anyone is interested in meeting!  My thought is that we
> could meet at a library.  Enter records together.  Exchange ideas.  Help
> each other.
>
> One concern folks had was that data entry requires intense concentration
> so as to not make mistakes.  I would expect the group would want to work
> fairly quietly for the most part?  I guess it would be up to the group.
>
> Let me know if you are interested.
>
> Best Regards,
> Jill
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[LegacyUG] Lexington to Louisville

[Jill A Baty]

Hi all I am still hoping to find or start a Local Legacy User Group in KY that 
would meet monthly or every two weeks.  Please let me know if such a group 
exists or if anyone is interested in meeting!  My thought is that we could meet 
at a library.  Enter records together.  Exchange ideas.  Help each other.

One concern folks had was that data entry requires intense concentration so as 
to not make mistakes.  I would expect the group would want to work fairly 
quietly for the most part?  I guess it would be up to the group.

Let me know if you are interested.

Best Regards, 
Jill

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Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

[Michele/Support]

Even if you do that, you will see weird stuff in your columns (aside from the 
prefixes).  It just isn’t a 100% good thing.  Open Office does a much better 
job and has no problem with pre-1901 dates.  I use Excel for everything else 
but this.

 

 

 

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Legacy Family Tree

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license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 10:25 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

 

If you are going to be using Excel, the easiest work around for the date issue 
is to change the date format in Legacy at Options - Customise 5.1 to -mm-dd 
and then make the Date columns in Excel Number or Text rather than Date.
You still have problems with the prefixes.

Cathy

Michele/Support wrote:




If you are able to sort dates correctly in Excel then you are using a
workaround/add on.  You have to use a workaround and most of these are too
advanced for the average user.  I tested this again recently using Excel 365
which is their most updated version.  I could not sort the dates and the
dates were all mangled.




Michele Simmons Lewis, CG
Legacy Family Tree
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com  
www.legacyfamilytree.com  

Certified Genealogist is a registered tradema rk and the designation CG is a
service mark of the Board for Certification of GenealogistsR, used under
license by Board certificants who meet competency standards.

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Pete Beatty
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 10:36 AM
To: Legacy User Group >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tip of the Day

Michele, your current tip contains the following: "Excel can't handle
pre-1901 dates so you will have a problem sorting by columns."

Excel Does not have a problem with dates prior 1901. It can handle all
formats of dates. I have several spreadsheets with some having thousands of
records with dates ranging between 0900 and present. I can sort, and filter
all records correctly.

Perhaps you are referring to dates with prefixes. We sometimes think items
such as "bef" Or "c" as dat es. Technically they are not components of a
date. When you add them to a date, they are interpreted as a character
string, not a date. As a character string, the entries are not sorted as a
date.

If this is the case, then excel can still properly sort. You may have to
define a format, a relatively simple process, or perform a simple cleanup.

Pete

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