Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicates

[Donna Newell]

Why not merge them?

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> On Feb 10, 2020, at 2:34 PM, Trevor Good  wrote:
> 
> Hi All
> Occasionally you end up with a child or children entered twice under one set 
> of parents, obviously this is an error which needs correcting, so what is the 
> correct procedure - Delete the second entry or Unlink them from these 
> parents. I understand if you Delete them, then they will eventually disappear 
> from your file but what happens to them if you just Unlink them?
> 
> Regards
> Trevor
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

[Donna Newell]

This conversation has gotten absurd.  If you don’t want to be a genealogist, 
then don’t follow the standards that have been cited, go ahead and do it 
whatever way you want, it is your family.  Be aware that individuals that 
follow correct procedures will not be downloading your trees because we would 
just have to redo everything.  Please don’t use our trees, it would confuse you 
no end with our precise entry of place names.

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> On Aug 4, 2019, at 3:49 PM, R G Strong Genealogy  
> wrote:
> 
> James,
> 
> Again, if you choose not to use the Genealogical Standard for places that is 
> your choice but as was said, don't publish it for those that do. It is not 
> policing it is the standard set by the Genealogists!
> 
> Russ
> 
> P.S this is starting to get old!!
> 
>> On 8/3/2019 3:14 PM, James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
>> I never had a Gedcom file not accept any location file whether it had 
>> Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN, or even Indianapolis, IN. not to 
>> mention Indianapolis, xxx Township, Marion County, Indiana, United States of 
>> America.  You soon get the point that the latter is the creation of someone 
>> who thinks that they need to police something totally not needed by anyone 
>> with common sense, or a tad bit of education.
>> 
>> Hoosierly yours,
>> 
>> James G. Hermsen
>> 8108 Laura Lynne Lane
>> Indianapolis, IN 46217
>> 
>> 317-679-1466 cell
>> 317-881-4600 land line
>> 
>> 
>> On ‎Saturday‎, ‎August‎ ‎03‎, ‎2019‎ ‎09‎:‎43‎:‎25‎ ‎AM‎ ‎EDT, 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Christopher
>> 
>> I agree with you.
>> 
>> My suggestion of putting the present name between curly brackets after the 
>> referenced location name is simply an easy way to translate old location 
>> name into present day name and it is accepted by the different Gedcom 
>> programs.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Georges
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> De : LegacyUserGroup  De la part de 
>> Christopher Seward Sr
>> Envoyé : 3 août 2019 09:21
>> À : Legacy User Group 
>> Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> James, I understand where you're coming from. I just think that handling 
>> data in a manner that deviates from the standard is inviting data integrity 
>> issues. As I said,  the choice is yours. Just be aware of the lasting issues 
>> it will cause for those who come after.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Christopher 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 4:59 AM James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Exactly my point.  Putting historical location in the notes maintains all 
>> the information one needs and still be sensible and useful to family 
>> members.  If people import information without looking at the notes, then 
>> they are not being a good genealogist.   It tells me that they just copy 
>> things for numbers, not for reliable and useful information to share.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hoosierly yours,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> James G. Hermsen
>> 
>> 8108 Laura Lynne Lane
>> 
>> Indianapolis, IN 46217
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 317-679-1466 cell
>> 
>> 317-881-4600 land line
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On ‎Friday‎, ‎August‎ ‎02‎, ‎2019‎ ‎08‎:‎51‎:‎50‎ ‎AM‎ ‎EDT, Bill Hoff 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Then one cannot find on a map if historic locations used. With many 
>> relatives in West Virginia I have this problem. WV did not become a state 
>> until June 20, 1863.  On top of that many counties within the state were 
>> divided over many years, far too many for me to recall them all. Then there 
>> is the problem of knowing locations but not dates so one cannot be certain 
>> of entries 
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 1, 2019, at 8:15 PM, Christopher Seward Sr.  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> You are free to record as you choose, but keep in mind that if you publish & 
>> share this information, your method goes against the standard, and can cause 
>> issues. 
>> 
>> An example for me was importing a person's info into my file.  I kept 
>> getting import errors stating the the location (birth place) did not exist 
>> on that date (birth date).  Now I have an issue, since this place not only 
>> didn't exist when this person was born, but when it did exist, it was in a 
>> different country than when he was born, thus making him appear to be of one 
>> heritage, but was actually another.
>> 
>> I recommend ALWAYS putting the correct location in, and putting the current 
>> name of the location in the notes.
>> 
>> On 8/1/2019 4:41 PM, James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, but in the notes.  Most people I share my information with want to know 
>> where the place is now.  They, like Trump, have no regard for history, and 
>> those who know their history, already know what the original name is.  
>> Looking for documents, the current place will know what jurisdiction they 
>> once were  governed by.  It is all about being usable for current people.  
>> Otherwise, we would all be recording everying in Latin like they once did.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hoosierly 

Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

[Donna Newell]

This is very wise.  Avoid confusion.  Avoid abbreviations, USA could be United 
States or Union of South Africa.  Use appropriate names, enter place as it is 
in the time period that the event takes place.  Study up on genealogy standards 
and practices.

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> On Aug 3, 2019, at 9:02 PM, Christopher Seward Sr.  
> wrote:
> 
> James,
> 
> It makes perfect sense.  "New York" - is that New York City, New York County, 
> or New York State?
> 
> New York ,,,USA would be city
> 
> ,New York ,,USA would be county
> 
> ,,New York ,USA would be state
> 
> If you can tell which one someone meant by just entering "New York", you need 
> to play the lottery immediately. LOL
> 
> For those of us who are NOT psychic, please use that proper standard, and put 
> what ever you please in the notes.
> 
> My humble opinion - tempered with 35+ years of experience as a professional 
> genealogist.
> 
> Christopher
> 
>> On 8/3/2019 2:07 PM, James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
>> What does not make sense is seeing something like:  , , , Indiana, United 
>> States of America. when a simple IN  would do.  Or: , , , Berlin, Democratic 
>> Republic of Germany.  You can find whatever available record in  Berlin 
>> today regardless if it was Prussia, Imperial Germany, Natzi Germany, East 
>> Germany or West Germany or Occupied American Sector, French Sector, or 
>> British Sector, or  Federal Rpublic of Germany.  This junk belongs in the 
>> notes not in the primary entry.
>> 
>> 
>> Hoosierly yours,
>> 
>> James G. Hermsen
>> 8108 Laura Lynne Lane
>> Indianapolis, IN 46217
>> 
>> 317-679-1466 cell
>> 317-881-4600 land line
>> 
>> 
>> On ‎Saturday‎, ‎August‎ ‎03‎, ‎2019‎ ‎09‎:‎22‎:‎00‎ ‎AM‎ ‎EDT, Christopher 
>> Seward Sr  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> James, I understand where you're coming from. I just think that handling 
>> data in a manner that deviates from the standard is inviting data integrity 
>> issues. As I said,  the choice is yours. Just be aware of the lasting issues 
>> it will cause for those who come after.
>> 
>> Christopher 
>> 
>> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 4:59 AM James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup 
>>  wrote:
>> Exactly my point.  Putting historical location in the notes maintains all 
>> the information one needs and still be sensible and useful to family 
>> members.  If people import information without looking at the notes, then 
>> they are not being a good genealogist.   It tells me that they just copy 
>> things for numbers, not for reliable and useful information to share.
>> 
>> Hoosierly yours,
>> 
>> James G. Hermsen
>> 8108 Laura Lynne Lane
>> Indianapolis, IN 46217
>> 
>> 317-679-1466 cell
>> 317-881-4600 land line
>> 
>> 
>> On ‎Friday‎, ‎August‎ ‎02‎, ‎2019‎ ‎08‎:‎51‎:‎50‎ ‎AM‎ ‎EDT, Bill Hoff 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Then one cannot find on a map if historic locations used. With many 
>> relatives in West Virginia I have this problem. WV did not become a state 
>> until June 20, 1863.  On top of that many counties within the state were 
>> divided over many years, far too many for me to recall them all. Then there 
>> is the problem of knowing locations but not dates so one cannot be certain 
>> of entries 
>> Bill
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Aug 1, 2019, at 8:15 PM, Christopher Seward Sr.  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> You are free to record as you choose, but keep in mind that if you publish & 
>> share this information, your method goes against the standard, and can cause 
>> issues.  
>> 
>> An example for me was importing a person's info into my file.  I kept 
>> getting import errors stating the the location (birth place) did not exist 
>> on that date (birth date).  Now I have an issue, since this place not only 
>> didn't exist when this person was born, but when it did exist, it was in a 
>> different country than when he was born, thus making him appear to be of one 
>> heritage, but was actually another.
>> 
>> I recommend ALWAYS putting the correct location in, and putting the current 
>> name of the location in the notes.
>> 
>>> On 8/1/2019 4:41 PM, James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, but in the notes.  Most people I share my information with want to know 
>> where the place is now.  They, like Trump, have no regard for history, and 
>> those who know their history, already know what the original name is.  
>> Looking for documents, the current place will know what jurisdiction they 
>> once were  governed by.  It is all about being usable for current people.  
>> Otherwise, we would all be recording everying in Latin like they once did.
>> 
>> Hoosierly yours,
>> 
>> James G. Hermsen
>> 8108 Laura Lynne Lane
>> Indianapolis, IN 46217
>> 
>> 317-679-1466 cell
>> 317-881-4600 land line
>> 
>> 
>> On ‎Thursday‎, ‎August‎ ‎01‎, ‎2019‎ ‎01‎:‎22‎:‎29‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EDT, 
>> sarrazingeor...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I think one should always the name of a location the way it is indicated in 
>> the documentation.
>> 
>> If the name has change or if two locations 

Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania

[Donna Newell]

Great answer!

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> On Aug 3, 2019, at 3:50 PM, Ian Macaulay  wrote:
> 
> I Live in CA, Not CaliforniaIMHO Acronyms are not proper English, and it 
> confuses your Neighbors.
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 3:14 PM James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup 
>>  wrote:
>> I never had a Gedcom file not accept any location file whether it had 
>> Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN, or even Indianapolis, IN. not to mention 
>> Indianapolis, xxx Township, Marion County, Indiana, United States of 
>> America.  You soon get the point that the latter is the creation of someone 
>> who thinks that they need to police something totally not needed by anyone 
>> with common sense, or a tad bit of education.
>> 
>> Hoosierly yours,
>> 
>> James G. Hermsen
>> 8108 Laura Lynne Lane
>> Indianapolis, IN 46217
>> 
>> 317-679-1466 cell
>> 317-881-4600 land line
>> 
>> 
>> On ‎Saturday‎, ‎August‎ ‎03‎, ‎2019‎ ‎09‎:‎43‎:‎25‎ ‎AM‎ ‎EDT, 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Christopher
>> 
>> I agree with you.
>> 
>> My suggestion of putting the present name between curly brackets after the 
>> referenced location name is simply an easy way to translate old location 
>> name into present day name and it is accepted by the different Gedcom 
>> programs.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Georges
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> De : LegacyUserGroup  De la part de 
>> Christopher Seward Sr
>> Envoyé : 3 août 2019 09:21
>> À : Legacy User Group 
>> Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> James, I understand where you're coming from. I just think that handling 
>> data in a manner that deviates from the standard is inviting data integrity 
>> issues. As I said,  the choice is yours. Just be aware of the lasting issues 
>> it will cause for those who come after.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Christopher 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 4:59 AM James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Exactly my point.  Putting historical location in the notes maintains all 
>> the information one needs and still be sensible and useful to family 
>> members.  If people import information without looking at the notes, then 
>> they are not being a good genealogist.   It tells me that they just copy 
>> things for numbers, not for reliable and useful information to share.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hoosierly yours,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> James G. Hermsen
>> 
>> 8108 Laura Lynne Lane
>> 
>> Indianapolis, IN 46217
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 317-679-1466 cell
>> 
>> 317-881-4600 land line
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On ‎Friday‎, ‎August‎ ‎02‎, ‎2019‎ ‎08‎:‎51‎:‎50‎ ‎AM‎ ‎EDT, Bill Hoff 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Then one cannot find on a map if historic locations used. With many 
>> relatives in West Virginia I have this problem. WV did not become a state 
>> until June 20, 1863.  On top of that many counties within the state were 
>> divided over many years, far too many for me to recall them all. Then there 
>> is the problem of knowing locations but not dates so one cannot be certain 
>> of entries 
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 1, 2019, at 8:15 PM, Christopher Seward Sr.  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> You are free to record as you choose, but keep in mind that if you publish & 
>> share this information, your method goes against the standard, and can cause 
>> issues. 
>> 
>> An example for me was importing a person's info into my file.  I kept 
>> getting import errors stating the the location (birth place) did not exist 
>> on that date (birth date).  Now I have an issue, since this place not only 
>> didn't exist when this person was born, but when it did exist, it was in a 
>> different country than when he was born, thus making him appear to be of one 
>> heritage, but was actually another.
>> 
>> I recommend ALWAYS putting the correct location in, and putting the current 
>> name of the location in the notes.
>> 
>> On 8/1/2019 4:41 PM, James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, but in the notes.  Most people I share my information with want to know 
>> where the place is now.  They, like Trump, have no regard for history, and 
>> those who know their history, already know what the original name is.  
>> Looking for documents, the current place will know what jurisdiction they 
>> once were  governed by.  It is all about being usable for current people.  
>> Otherwise, we would all be recording everying in Latin like they once did.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hoosierly yours,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> James G. Hermsen
>> 
>> 8108 Laura Lynne Lane
>> 
>> Indianapolis, IN 46217
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 317-679-1466 cell
>> 
>> 317-881-4600 land line
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On ‎Thursday‎, ‎August‎ ‎01‎, ‎2019‎ ‎01‎:‎22‎:‎29‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EDT, 
>> sarrazingeor...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I think one should always the name of a location the way it is indicated in 
>> the documentation.
>> 
>> If the name has change or if two locations have been merge, I use curly 
>> brackets with the new name after the old name.
>> 
>> Ex.  Romorantin 

Re: [LegacyUG] Does Legacy export pictures in a gedcom?

[Donna Newell]

GEDCOM only exports text.  It will not do pictures.
 Donna

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> On Jan 20, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Jenny M Benson  wrote:
> 
>> On 20-Jan-19 07:52 PM, Gloria DeSousa wrote:
>> I exported several gedcoms I made in Legacy to MyHeritage, choosing 
>> Myheritage in the drop down menu, and choosing everything I thought I could 
>> include in a gedcom. In all my attempts, pictures from the Media Gallery 
>> never showed up in Myheritage. What are the settings to make this happen? I 
>> hope I'm making sense.
> 
> I don't know anything about uploading to MyHeritage, but I do know you will 
> never be able to include pictures in a gedcom because a gedcom is a text-only 
> file - and a very basic one, at that: no fancy formatting.
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Programmers?

[Donna Newell]

You are so right.  I have been on the program since version 2.  Why do some 
individuals complain about everything?  I wish they would look at the good a 
little more.  They never seem to be happy unless they are voicing disparagingly 
remarks for the rest of us to scroll through to try and find their point.  I 
like the program.

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> On Sep 18, 2018, at 5:05 AM, Ronald Bernier  
> wrote:
> 
> The problem is that it is always the same people complaining. I have been 
> using Legacy since vetsion 4.  There are people on this list who have 
> complained about the program with every version that has been released.  They 
> could move to anothet program, but don't.  Instead they just constantly 
> complain about every version.  Sadly, in their mind they think their constant 
> complaining is resulting in improvements to the program.
> 
> --
> Ronald Bernier
> Woonsocket, RI
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018, at 11:03 PM, Donna Newell wrote:
> > I agree with Linda everyone needs to stop gripping.  Either use the
> > program or don’t.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Programmers?

[Donna Newell]

I agree with Linda everyone needs to stop gripping.  Either use the program or 
don’t.

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> On Sep 17, 2018, at 10:00 PM, Donna Newell  wrote:
> 
> I don’t think Ken, Dave and Geoff can do anything at this point.  They now 
> owe their livelihood to MyHeritage, you can’t expect them to turn on their 
> employer.  Users are just going to have to decide for themselves their best 
> course of action.  Stay or bail.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Sep 17, 2018, at 9:50 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:
>> 
>> You totally miss the point! Legacy made its reputation on swift response 
>> from the programmers. Having now been acquired by MyHeritage, it is being 
>> milked for its reputation, which, as is an age-old tactic in such 
>> acquisitions, for its reputations. MyHeritage programmers were ludicrous; 
>> the company needed fresh blood, so acquired a reputable company, and is 
>> proceeding to eviscerate it while living off of it's reputation - for as 
>> long as that lasts.
>> 
>> Perhaps, just perhaps, Lwegacy programmers are trying (desperately) to 
>> create a decent database for MyHeritage.
>> 
>> If that happens to be the case (will I live so long), they are totally 
>> ignoring the concerns of the customers who made them such a prize that 
>> MyHeritage wanted to acquire them.
>> 
>> It happens in all businesses. It is so sad that the knowledgeable customers 
>> who pushed Legacy to add new features and correct problems, have been 
>> ignored for too many years. Problems used to be fixed soon. That is no 
>> longer the case. Alas.
>> 
>> 
>> CE
>> 
>> 
>> From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
>> bobstree2 
>> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 5:48 PM
>> To: Legacy User Group
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Programmers?
>>  
>> Great support reply,  Michelle! 
>> 
>> Is 20 people in two months with major things they don't like, out of tens of 
>> thousands users, a large pct of unhappy users? I don't think so. 
>> 
>> If users feel there is a better product they should get off this forum and 
>> switch products.   
>> 
>> Let those who are here continue working together to keep this as the best 
>> product.   I am tired of these complainer s.   Nothing forcing them to stay. 
>>  
>> 
>> If they wish to stay and complain, then they should complain to the support 
>> group, not the users. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Original message 
>> From: mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Date: 9/17/18 4:01 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: 'Legacy User Group' 
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Programmers?
>> 
>> Cindy, 
>> I am a little confused. You said you have been using Legacy for several 
>> years but you are having problems getting info on how to generate reports, 
>> publish etc. There have been no changes in how reports are generated (a few 
>> more options have been added to make the reports cooler). 
>> 
>> 1) On every screen in Legacy there is a Help button.  If you click the Help 
>> button it will take you to the appropriate location in the Help File for 
>> that topic so that you don't have to search for what you are looking for.  
>> 
>> 2) Legacy 9 now includes the PDF version of the User's Guide.  In previous 
>> versions this was a separate purchase.  
>> 
>> 3) We also have Knowledge Base articles that are searchable here 
>> http://support.legacyfamilytree.com
>> 
>> 4) The Legacy videos (free) are here 
>> http://www.familytreewebinars.com/legacy_videos.php
>> 
>> 5) You are a member of the mailing list and you can ask any questions here
>> 
>> 6) If you are on Facebook there is a Legacy Users Group there that has over 
>> 18,000 members.  You can join here 
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/LegacyUserGroup/ 
>> 
>> Both of the Legacy Users Groups are monitored by some of the staff, beta 
>> testers, and translators.
>> 
>> 7) Here is a collection of Legacy 101 articles 
>> http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2018/05/compilation-of-legacy-101articles.html
>>   
>> 
>> You can get most of your questions answered using these tools.  If there is 
>> a question that you haven't been able to find the answer to you can email us 
>> at supp...@legacyfamilytree.com  or if you have a suggestion for a new 
>> feature you would like to see, you can submit it here 
>> https://legacyfamilytree.com/Suggest.asp  
>> 
>> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG®
>> Legacy Educator
>> Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage

Re: [LegacyUG] Programmers?

[Donna Newell]

I don’t think Ken, Dave and Geoff can do anything at this point.  They now owe 
their livelihood to MyHeritage, you can’t expect them to turn on their 
employer.  Users are just going to have to decide for themselves their best 
course of action.  Stay or bail.

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> On Sep 17, 2018, at 9:50 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:
> 
> You totally miss the point! Legacy made its reputation on swift response from 
> the programmers. Having now been acquired by MyHeritage, it is being milked 
> for its reputation, which, as is an age-old tactic in such acquisitions, for 
> its reputations. MyHeritage programmers were ludicrous; the company needed 
> fresh blood, so acquired a reputable company, and is proceeding to eviscerate 
> it while living off of it's reputation - for as long as that lasts.
> 
> Perhaps, just perhaps, Lwegacy programmers are trying (desperately) to create 
> a decent database for MyHeritage.
> 
> If that happens to be the case (will I live so long), they are totally 
> ignoring the concerns of the customers who made them such a prize that 
> MyHeritage wanted to acquire them.
> 
> It happens in all businesses. It is so sad that the knowledgeable customers 
> who pushed Legacy to add new features and correct problems, have been ignored 
> for too many years. Problems used to be fixed soon. That is no longer the 
> case. Alas.
> 
> 
> CE
> 
> 
> From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
> bobstree2 
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 5:48 PM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Programmers?
>  
> Great support reply,  Michelle! 
> 
> Is 20 people in two months with major things they don't like, out of tens of 
> thousands users, a large pct of unhappy users? I don't think so. 
> 
> If users feel there is a better product they should get off this forum and 
> switch products.   
> 
> Let those who are here continue working together to keep this as the best 
> product.   I am tired of these complainer s.   Nothing forcing them to stay.  
> 
> If they wish to stay and complain, then they should complain to the support 
> group, not the users. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: 9/17/18 4:01 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: 'Legacy User Group' 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Programmers?
> 
> Cindy, 
> I am a little confused. You said you have been using Legacy for several years 
> but you are having problems getting info on how to generate reports, publish 
> etc. There have been no changes in how reports are generated (a few more 
> options have been added to make the reports cooler). 
> 
> 1) On every screen in Legacy there is a Help button.  If you click the Help 
> button it will take you to the appropriate location in the Help File for that 
> topic so that you don't have to search for what you are looking for.  
> 
> 2) Legacy 9 now includes the PDF version of the User's Guide.  In previous 
> versions this was a separate purchase.  
> 
> 3) We also have Knowledge Base articles that are searchable here 
> http://support.legacyfamilytree.com
> 
> 4) The Legacy videos (free) are here 
> http://www.familytreewebinars.com/legacy_videos.php
> 
> 5) You are a member of the mailing list and you can ask any questions here
> 
> 6) If you are on Facebook there is a Legacy Users Group there that has over 
> 18,000 members.  You can join here 
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/LegacyUserGroup/ 
> 
> Both of the Legacy Users Groups are monitored by some of the staff, beta 
> testers, and translators.
> 
> 7) Here is a collection of Legacy 101 articles 
> http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2018/05/compilation-of-legacy-101articles.html
>   
> 
> You can get most of your questions answered using these tools.  If there is a 
> question that you haven't been able to find the answer to you can email us at 
> supp...@legacyfamilytree.com  or if you have a suggestion for a new feature 
> you would like to see, you can submit it here 
> https://legacyfamilytree.com/Suggest.asp  
> 
> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG®
> Legacy Educator
> Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com  
> https://legacyfamilytree.com 
> 
> 
> From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
> Cindy Custer
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 3:40 PM
> To: Legacy User Group 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Programmers?
> 
> I have been using Legacy for several years and have over 1,000 names in my 
> database.
> However, I also recently upgraded to Legacy 9 and have been having problems 
> getting
> info on how to generate reports, publish, etc.
> 
> If Legacy has been sold to someone else whose programmers are not going to be 
> responsive
> I would consider moving to another platform or software if there is one as 
> robust as Legacy.
> Any suggestions?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Cemeteries

[Donna Newell]

I use the event description field for the name of the cemetery.  You can then 
do a search on that field.  I use Search, individual, Event-Description, 
contains, then the name of the cemetery I am searching for.  Up comes my search 
list which I can print using the option button at the bottom, then click print. 
 You then choose the length of each of the fields you need.  

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> On Sep 16, 2018, at 2:49 AM, Jean Gobel  wrote:
> 
> Susie Zada, that  is exactly I mean.  I have like fifty people buried on one 
> cemetery.   I would like a list of them.
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Susie Zada
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 9:11 PM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Cemeteries
> 
> Hi Jean,
> 
> Do you mean the people in your Legacy database buried in a particular 
> cemetery?
> 
> Regards ... Susie Z
> 
> September 16, 2018 12:36 PM, "Jean Gobel"  wrote:
> 
>> How can I get list list of everyone buried in a particular cemetery?
>> Jean Gobel
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Re: [LegacyUG] (no subject)

[Donna Newell]

Along with the other excellent suggestions, I would suggest that you consider 
joining the Legacy user group on Facebook. You can ask a question an have it 
answered in just a few minutes.  Definitely look at the videos on the Legacy 
site, they are some of the best put out on using the program. I would also 
suggest viewing videos on ancestry and FamilySearch.  Both are free and you get 
a wealth of knowledge from them, the added plus is that you can stop them and 
try out what they are talking about, back up and view again.  Best of luck.

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 4, 2018, at 8:20 AM, Bonnie Hamer  wrote:
> 
> Just joined this group and beginning to add information in Legacy.  So a 
> newbie to genealogy.  My first inclination was to make 2 separate family 
> files - one for my paternal side and the other for my maternal.  However 
> reading though some of the posts, it sounds like there should only be one 
> file beginning with me (a single, never married, no children).  Any thoughts 
> of why this should only be one file appreciated.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Upload Event Notes to Ancestry

[Donna Newell]

Actually you can put notes in Ancestry.  In Facts you can add a description to 
the fact.  There is another place under Tools in the upper right corner that 
notes and comments can be entered.  The notes in this area are added by the 
owner of the tree, but anyone can access the comments portion.
We had a great session at rootstech on this.

Donna

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Michele/Support
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 9:14 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Upload Event Notes to Ancestry

There is no place on Ancestry for a regular notes (general/research/medical) 
nor for event notes. This is a known problem with uploading to them ☹  

Michele Simmons Lewis, CG®
Legacy Family Tree
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com 
www.legacyfamilytree.com  


-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Brian Kelly
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 9:41 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Upload Event Notes to Ancestry

I am not a member and do not have a tree on Ancestry but my first question to 
you would be if there is a place in Ancestry.com events for a note? Even if 
Legacy exports a note for an event if there is no place in Ancestry.com trees 
where that can be saved then the note will not be imported by Ancestry.

A second question would be what settings you are using when you create the 
GEDCOM in Legacy for upload to Ancestry. Are Event Notes turned on?

Brian Kelly

On 07-Mar-18 8:19 AM, Robert Burford wrote:
> When I upload my Family Tree from Legacy to ancestry.com it does not 
> upload the notes for Events.  Is there any way these Notes can be uploaded?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Robert
> robertburf...@gmail.com
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] AFN Numbers

[Donna Newell]

I do not use the AFN field

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Michele/Support
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 12:21 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: [LegacyUG] AFN Numbers

POLL TIME! (Legacy Staff) - The AFN field I would like to know what you are
using the AFN field for. I am compiling some numbers for the developers so
please vote :)

I do not use the AFN field
I use the AFN field for AFN numbers
I use the AFN field for something else


The AFN field is on the Individual's Information screen. It is the first
field in the row...
User ID AFN FamilySearch ID Find a Grave ID


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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[Donna Newell]

If it is more complicated then why is everyone complaining?  I still remember 
them saying it was coding with Microsoft’s. Product not legacy.  Why not just 
relax and let the companies work it out.

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 5, 2018, at 7:44 AM, Ian Thomas <il.tho...@outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> It is more complicated than that.
>  
> ILT
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>  
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Donna Newell
> Sent: Monday, 5 February 2018 11:57 PM
> To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature
>  
> I was under the impression that the mapping problem was one created because 
> Microsoft made some changes.  How can we expect legacy to fix a Microsoft 
> change.  I would think the Microsoft people would have to be willing to work 
> with the legacy people.  They might have more important things to do.  
> Complaining might make you feel better, but sometime patience is required. 
>  
> Donna
> Ardmore, Oklahoma
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:58 PM, CE WOOD <wood...@msn.com> wrote:
> 
> What all the good it will do, AMEN!
>  
> CE
>  
> 
> From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on behalf of 
> Leo MacDonald <macdonald...@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 8:46 PM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature
>  
> I agree with everyone else on this mapping problem, I have spent a lot of 
> time entering the coordinates to my locations and since the mapping program 
> broke down I've added over a hundred new locations. The mapping feature is 
> one of the major selling points for this program, the programmers need to put 
> aside some of their fine tuning projects and concentrate on repairing the 
> mapping feature as soon as possible.
>  
> 
> From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on behalf of 
> Mary Young <m...@cmy.org.uk>
> Sent: February 4, 2018 7:12 PM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature
>  
> My situation exactly. I have spent untold hours mapping my locations to exact 
> addresses. All that work now feels wasted, and I can't progress this project.
> Mary Young
> 
> On Sunday, 4 February 2018, Steve Wilson <ltsj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> I have to agree with Paul. This needs to be a priority for Millennia,
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks, Steve Wilson
> 
> Gaithersburg, MD
> 
>  
> 
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Paul Rogers
> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:16 AM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature
> 
>  
> 
> I was a heavy user of the mapping feature and was in the middle of a large 
> verification project which has now had to be put on the back burner.
> 
>  
> 
> What concerns me though is that we have heard very little from Millennia 
> about this. Are they doing a work-around? Or perhaps doing a re-write to use 
> Google maps instead (my personal preference)?
> 
>  
> 
> It would just be nice if they kept us in the loop as to what was happening.
> 
>  
> 
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2018, 13:46 Brian Kelly, <exma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ian,
> 
> Because the old API for mapping was discontinued by Microsoft ALL
> versions of Legacy which used mapping no longer work. That includes 7.5,
> 8.0 and earlier builds of 9.0. There is no way to revert to an earlier
> version where you can still use mapping.
> 
> Brian Kelly
> 
> On 29-Jan-18 3:47 AM, Ian Thomas wrote:
> > But I wouldn’t revert to a prior version of Legacy FT in which it was still 
> > working… I would lose too many nice new features in v9.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[Donna Newell]

I was under the impression that the mapping problem was one created because 
Microsoft made some changes.  How can we expect legacy to fix a Microsoft 
change.  I would think the Microsoft people would have to be willing to work 
with the legacy people.  They might have more important things to do.  
Complaining might make you feel better, but sometime patience is required. 

Donna
Ardmore, Oklahoma

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:58 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:
> 
> What all the good it will do, AMEN!
> 
> CE
> 
> 
> From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
> Leo MacDonald 
> Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 8:46 PM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature
>  
> I agree with everyone else on this mapping problem, I have spent a lot of 
> time entering the coordinates to my locations and since the mapping program 
> broke down I've added over a hundred new locations. The mapping feature is 
> one of the major selling points for this program, the programmers need to put 
> aside some of their fine tuning projects and concentrate on repairing the 
> mapping feature as soon as possible.
> 
> 
> From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
> Mary Young 
> Sent: February 4, 2018 7:12 PM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature
>  
> My situation exactly. I have spent untold hours mapping my locations to exact 
> addresses. All that work now feels wasted, and I can't progress this project.
> Mary Young
> 
> On Sunday, 4 February 2018, Steve Wilson  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> I have to agree with Paul. This needs to be a priority for Millennia,
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks, Steve Wilson
> 
> Gaithersburg, MD
> 
>  
> 
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Paul Rogers
> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:16 AM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature
> 
>  
> 
> I was a heavy user of the mapping feature and was in the middle of a large 
> verification project which has now had to be put on the back burner.
> 
>  
> 
> What concerns me though is that we have heard very little from Millennia 
> about this. Are they doing a work-around? Or perhaps doing a re-write to use 
> Google maps instead (my personal preference)?
> 
>  
> 
> It would just be nice if they kept us in the loop as to what was happening.
> 
>  
> 
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2018, 13:46 Brian Kelly,  wrote:
> 
> Ian,
> 
> Because the old API for mapping was discontinued by Microsoft ALL
> versions of Legacy which used mapping no longer work. That includes 7.5,
> 8.0 and earlier builds of 9.0. There is no way to revert to an earlier
> version where you can still use mapping.
> 
> Brian Kelly
> 
> On 29-Jan-18 3:47 AM, Ian Thomas wrote:
> > But I wouldn’t revert to a prior version of Legacy FT in which it was still 
> > working… I would lose too many nice new features in v9.
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] a Warning, and another problem with the FAG

[Donna Newell]

What if it isn’t a typo?  People go in occasionally to FAG and add a duplicate 
memorial, when it is discovered one of them is removed, it could be the one 
that you are citing.  I have had it happened to me occasionally.  Annoying, but 
ok for me because I am putting the number in the description section of events 
under cemetery.  I can see where it would really mess up individuals that have 
used the FAG field in v9.
Don’t know of a solution for it.  The program should say which individual they 
are removing the number so you can go back and put in the new number.

Donna Newell
Ardmore, Oklahoma

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 12, 2017, at 4:43 AM, Henry T. Peterson Jr. <hpete...@cox.net> wrote:
> 
> Ian
>  
> My two cents…. I have over 13,000 FAG memorials in my database and most of 
> the time they are entered by copy and paste (I use two monitors while 
> entering data). I for one am grateful that “File maintenance – check/repair” 
> catches these errors.. otherwise they would go undetected and be a totally 
> unfunctional.
>  
> It not “Legacy’s” fault I made the typo errors. I don’t know a solution, but 
> I would hate to lose the basic functionality that check/repair provides.
>  
> My two cents
> Kind regards
> Henry
>  
>  
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Ian Macaulay
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 11:15 PM
> To: Legacy User Group <LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com>
> Subject: [LegacyUG] a Warning, and another problem with the FAG
>  
> I would very much like the FAG numbers to be unique, however the current 
> situation where if you have a duplicate number and run "File Maintenance" you 
> get a message that says 
> 
> Duplicate Find a Grave IDs have been found.  You will need to re-add the Find 
> a Grave ID back to the individual the ID belongs to.  You can search Find a 
> Grave using the ID(s) listed below for who it should be added to.
> ==
> 
> Find A Grave ID = 77730037
> 
> And it wipes out both the good and the bad numbers.,  Now while the good is 
> easy to recover because  they capture it and report ,   the bad is lost.  So 
> in effect Legacy programmers have programed a scenario that looses a clients 
> data.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger

[Donna Newell]

I believe we should take a "wait and see" attitude.  Not everything is all bad 
or all good.  I feel they deserve a fair shake and time to make it work. 
Negativity only breeds more negativity.   Are you a "glass half full or a glass 
half empty" person.  Life is short, I choose to look at the glass as half full.

Donna, Oklahoma

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 5, 2017, at 11:34 AM, Bob Austen  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dennis,
> Very well said – you’ve pretty well covered my concerns over this 
> acquisition.  I don’t hear many voices saying this is a good thing!
>  
> I quit using FTM as it could no longer handle the size of my file (no longer 
> a problem). They also changed their format. I much like the way Legacy 
> approaches the input of data. 
>  
> The bad reviews on MyHeritage seem to vastly outnumber the (genuine) good 
> reviews. I, too, may be looking for another program.
>  
> Bob
>  
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Dennis Murphy
> Sent: Saturday, August 5, 2017 8:55 AM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger
>  
> I also have used Legacy for years after trying every genealogy program in the 
> market, as well as some that no longer exist. In my opinion the corporate 
> concept that "bigger id better" was born from either sheer greed or total 
> ignorance. My first voyage into the online data posting was with Rootsweb, 
> because it vowed to always "remain free." Then along comes Ancestry and they 
> gobble up Rootsweb, adding their databases to Ancestry World Tree. I know 
> this to be a fact as beginner errors in my original Rootsweb Gedcom have 
> transferred over to the Ancestry database.
>  
> And now along comes MyHeritage and they "merge" with Millennia, which is 
> likely a quaint euphemism for "buy everything you got" including and 
> especially their programmers..The handwriting on the wall reads "open your 
> wallet" as we're going a la carte..
>  
> I quit using Family Tree Maker due to their corporate greed in making sure 
> each new version was incompatible with earlier versions, thus forcing you to 
> buy the next upgrade. And now Jack has his thumb in Legacy's plumb pie and I 
> wonder how long it will take before all prices go up. 
>  
> Last but not least, it was but two weeks ago that I had to vehemently protest 
> to MyHeritage and one of its contributors about data posted on their site 
> concerning my "living" relatives. They did remove it but there is no telling 
> how long it was there and who may or may not have downloaded it. While many 
> sites do remove details about living persons, they do NOT remove their names; 
> none of the online databases that I know do this - but they should! As any 
> decent genealogist and/or identity thief knows, it's not that difficult to 
> find all sorts of information about a person given their parents and siblings 
> names.
>  
> There had better be a sure-fire way to "opt out" of any automatic grabbing of 
> any Legacy data by MyHeritage or I will be looking for yet another genealogy 
> program.
>  
> Worried
>  
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 4:05 AM, Jean Gobel  wrote:
> Shane, and Donna:   I had the same experience.  I finally managed to cancel 
> my subscription, but large pieces of my family tree were extended, some 
> correctly, some definitely incorrect.  I, too, have used Legacy since long 
> before it became “Legacy”, and thru the years convinced many friends to 
> become Legacy users.  I still haven’t mastered all the benefits available in 
> Legacy 8, and  I have resisted upgrading to Legacy 9.  Now I am sure I will 
> stay with Legacy 8 as long as it still functions on my computer.  I’m 
> disappointed, but hope this works out for Millennia.
>  
> Jean
>  
>  
> From: Shane Abdelnour
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 11:22 PM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger. Like Donna, i tried my heritage some 
> years age, I found someone had copied large chunks of my family tree, so 
> Iimmediately
> I immediately cancelled everything and continued using Legacy. I have used 
> Legacy .ever since. I refused to upgrade to version 9 ..now  I will stick to 
> what i know.
>  
> Shane
>  
>  
> On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 at 06:47, DonnaMR  wrote:
> I do not have a MyHeritage account, but when I looked at it again after the 
> merger announcement, it seems to be a family tree website.  I searched for 
> some of my ancestors and saw errors in just the little bit they let me see 
> without an account, just as when I search the Ancestry trees.
>  
> I have used Legacy just about from its beginning, through all the versions.  
> I do not used the search features; I just want good software that lets me 
> document names and personal data, events, and sources in an efficient manner, 
> and then lets me print useful and well-formatted reports.  I also use it to 
> create webpages for my own family history 

Re: [LegacyUG] Help With Citing Sources

[Donna Newell]

It is a very pricey book, $76.  There is a quick sheet offered by Legacy that 
covers a lot of the sources that are frequently cited, I think it is well under 
$10.
I too have problems with how exactly to cite a source, it gets very confusing 
as to the source-detail etc.

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 13, 2017, at 2:28 PM, BARTON LEWIS  wrote:
> 
> Dennis,
> 
> Elizabeth Shown Mills' "Evidence Explained" is the standard work for source 
> citations.  Google it and you can see examples on her website, and/or 
> purchase the entire book.  You may be able to find prior versions on sale at 
> ebay or amazon, which should be adequate and save some money.  Beware:  it's 
> not just a book but a "tome" but it covers everything.  Better safe than 
> sorry.
> 
> Barton
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 02:46 PM, Dennis Birke wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the suggestions.  I have watched Geoff's webinar on citing 
>> sources and it’s very helpful -- as far as it goes.  I think what I'm 
>> looking for is a manual that gives examples for the commonly cited sources.
>> 
>> For example, when citing Federal census records, what is the Master source 
>> and what is the detail?  Is the Master source the record at the state level? 
>> Or county level?  Or city/town/ township level?
>> I'd like to have a reference book or manual that tells me what the standard 
>> practice is -- so that I don't have to spend hours trying to think it 
>> through or proceeding on a trial and error basis and then having to re-do a 
>> dozen entries after discovering I guessed wrong.
>> Another example:  Cites like FamilySearch are very helpful in offering full 
>> citations for some kinds of information.  But, I've been having a very 
>> difficult time figuring out how to fit those citations into Source Writer 
>> (and, again, figuring out the appropriate level for separating a "master 
>> source" from "details".
>> I'm thinking I can't be the only person to have struggled with these issues 
>> and someone has probably written something that answers all or most of my 
>> questions.  I'm trying to identify that book or manual or website, etc.
>> 
>> Don't get me wrong -- I really do appreciate how powerful a tool Source 
>> Writer might be.  But it assumes a level of knowledge that a novice like 
>> myself just doesn't have.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 9:11 PM
>> To: Legacy User Group Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Help With Citing Sources
>> 
>> Michele has given you the link to a very popular webinar.
>> 
>> You don't have to be a professional to need to cite your sources in a way 
>> that someone else can understand - that someone could be you in a few years 
>> time.
>> 
>> There's nothing wrong with using Basic Sources.
>> 
>> The most important thing to get your head around is Master Sources and 
>> Source Detail. Together they provide everything you or someone else needs to 
>> know to find the source (or to know why they can't find it because it's from 
>> a document/Family Bible/etc that you own or saw when you visited Uncle 
>> John.) A book is easy.
>> The book is the Master source and the page is the Source Detail.
>> But what about something you find on FamilySearch?
>> The easiest way to source FamilySearch data is to create a Basic Source with 
>> the Master Source just saying FamilySearch in the Source List Name (which is 
>> your finding aid for refinding a Master Source) and FamilySearch in the 
>> Title.
>> Then you can copy and paste the FamilySearch source to the Source Detail
>> - sometimes it will fit in the Source Detail box but often it's too long, so 
>> put it in the Source Detail Comment and checkmark that to be included. The 
>> transcription is copy and pasted into the Source Detail text and not 
>> normally included in the citation.
>> The same can be done with the source that Ancestry provides.
>> 
>> With the SourceWriter simply remember that you don't have to put something 
>> in every available box. These are general templates that don't always apply.
>> 
>> For online databases and online databases with original images, you can use 
>> the SourceWriter internet templates for these.
>> The name of the particular database goes in the Master Source. In the source 
>> detail something like "entry for Joe Bloggs" and in the credit line - where 
>> Ancestry etc got the information.
>> This can be more useful than putting all Ancestry sources into one Master 
>> Source. It's an advanced step but you can more easily find which people 
>> you've looked for and found in a particular database if you have a Master 
>> Source for each database.
>> 
>> It's much harder adding sources later but no reason not to start. Use tags 
>> to indicate that you have sourced everything you've entered for that person. 
>> The source icon lights up with just one source so isn't 

Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with V8.0.0.602 and V8.0.0.604

[Donna Newell]

I agree with you.  Some of us are happy with 8 and shouldn't have to change. 
And yes I agree they are adding to many dodads to the program, in my opinion it 
makes it more unstable.  Yes I have issues with 8.  Purchased 9 but delayed 
installing it for same reason.  What is the rush!

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 10, 2017, at 11:08 AM, Gene Wheeler  wrote:
> 
> That just seems to introduce another set of issues! I've purchased v.9, but 
> am holding off using it until the problems all get cleared up. I think LFT is 
> maybe getting too complicated to design and use all the new features. IMHO, 
> they should continue to support v.8 for those of us who would rather have a 
> solid, reliable tool and still offer v.9 to those who have more patience to 
> deal with it's issues and can't wait to use the new features.
> 
> Can 8 and 9 run side-by-side on the same machine? If so, one could use v.8 as 
> the preferred version, and still run v.9 to learn its intricacies before 
> adopting it to replace v.8.
> 
> Gene
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 10:47 AM, ROBERT A SUDDATH  wrote:
>> you nee dto upgrade to latest versions!!
>> 
>> 
>> Bob Suddath
>> rasudd...@msn.com
>> denversuddaths.homestead.com
>> 
>> 
>> From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
>> Chris Hill 
>> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 8:35 AM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Problem with V8.0.0.602 and V8.0.0.604
>>  
>> This is for information.
>>  
>> I am running Legacy 8 on a Win 7 64bit Ultimate, fully updated by Microsoft 
>> and running the Symantec Norton Anti-Virus.
>>  
>> About a month ago it got updated to V8.0.0.602. That then likes to display a 
>> prompt about upgrading to Legacy 9. Hit Close to ship out and you get a 
>> Run-Tine Error 75 message and the program closes. Eventually resolved that 
>> as a program combability issue, having raised it as an formal issue and got 
>> pointed at the collection of possible causes.
>>  
>> I have now been updated to V8.0.0.604 and the same issue occurred. This time 
>> I completely removed and reinstalled, and still got the same issue. Ran the 
>> program compatibility checks and Windows decided that it needed to be in 
>> mode Windows XP (SP2) and it now works.
>>  
>> But Legacy 8 came out in 2013, so it should have been compatible to Win 
>> Vista, Win 7, Win 8 and Win 8.1. To my knowledge, it is only the .602 and 
>> .604 versions that have this issue – certainly I have seen no issues with 
>> previous versions. So what have Legacy developers changed for these versions 
>> to make then incompatible or have they forgotten to tell the installer to 
>> make them needing to be in Win XP SP2. The other alternative is that I am up 
>> to date on Microsoft .NET to level 4.6, and have 4.7 waiting for 
>> installation.
>>  
>> Regards
>>  
>> Chris
>>  
>>  
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Users Classes

[Donna Newell]

Have you thought of viewing the video on the legacy site?  Geoff did one on the 
new version 9 last week I think. 

Donna

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> On May 10, 2017, at 5:49 PM, Margaret Gagliardi  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Sherry,
> I see there are no classes anywhere in my part of the US.
> Margaret
> 
>> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 9:04 AM, Sherry  wrote:
>> On the Legacy website www.LegacyFamilyTree.com, go to Help Center and select 
>> "User Groups"
>> 
>> Sherry
>> 
>>> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 4:23 AM, Margaret Gagliardi  
>>> wrote:
>>> Is there a listing of locations for the Legacy Users Classes?
>>> Thanks
>>> Margaret
>> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Programme is slow when changing screens

[Donna Newell]

That made it a little bit better, but still sluggish in switching to a
different individual.

Donna Newell
Ardmore, Oklahoma

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Sherry
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 2:24 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Programme is slow when changing screens

Back up the Family File (File > Backup File), then run File > File
Maintenance > Check/Repair. Fix any errors that crop up and run it again.
Then run File > File Maintenance > Compact Family File to "tighten" up the
file some

more


Sherry

On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Mabel Slinkard Horrocks
<slinkar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Did Support help your Slow changing screens?  If so what was solution.  
> I have same problem.
>
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 3:31 PM, June <mai_l...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
>>
>> Since downloading the last update my legacy programme is very slow to 
>> open, and moving from screen to screen or within screens is also very 
>> slow.
>>
>> No other programmes on my computer have this delay and I am wondering 
>> if there is anything I can check that might help.
>>
>> I have version 8.0.0.566 in Deluxe version.
>>
>> Thank you - June
>>

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Re: [LegacyUG] miss labeling of individual

[Donna Newell]

Thanks for the input everyone.  I am encouraged that someone else was able to 
duplicate my query.  I ran relationships a number of ways and the problem 
persisted.  I will go back to the name list and look at all my italic entries, 
but that won't catch the ones that I found the correct gender identification 
though, I will probably have to simply go through each one.
They didn't show up as a problem either.

Thanks again.

Donna

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> On Sep 2, 2016, at 9:14 PM, Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Everyone,
> 
> Every now and again you have to re-run Tools - Set Relationships. 
> That's just the way it is. A few relationships auto update as you add people 
> but most don't.
> 
> Cathy
> 
> Brian Lightfoot wrote:
>> 
>> More info. My unknown gender child described as a SON remained a SON even
>> after I Set Relationships.
>> 
>> Out of curiosity, I changed the gender to male. Description in Family View
>> remained a Son. I reran Set Relationships and it remained a son.
>> 
>> I then changed the child back to female and reran Set Relationships. Yea,
>> Legacy finally figured it out and changed the description to the correct
>> term of Daughter.
>> 
>> I'll let the programmer's figure out the logic or lack thereof. :-)
>> 
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-bounces @legacyusers.com] On
>> Behalf Of Donna Newell
>> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 5:16 PM
>> To: 'Legacy User Group'
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] miss labeling of individual
>> 
>> Thanks everyone for the assistance.
>> 
>> The radio button was listed as female.  I had originally put her in as an
>> unknown sex because I only knew the mother had x number of children and I
>> didn't know the sex of two of them. I changed it to female when I found out
>> the correct sex and the name.
>> 
>> I tried check/repair, it did not fix the problem.
>> 
>> I took a little nap and came up with totally deleting the individual and
>> putting her back in.  Made FGS and copied the notes.  Put her in as the
>> correct sex with everything that was in there before.
>> 
>> That fixed the problem.
>> 
>> I had one other child listed as an unknown, so I went in and did an
>> experiment, I changed that one to a female, and low and behold she was
>> listed the same way as the first, as an uncle.  For some reason Legacy is
>> not recognizing the sex switch for unknown sex to the sex you subsequently
>> choose.  I have done this on others, I just don't remember the ones I did it
>> to right now, and had gone in and changed the sex when I knew what they
>> were.  I will have to look carefully at the children now when I make such a
>> change.
>> 
>> Go ahead and try the experiment.  Put in a child of unknown sex to a family,
>> then change it to female and look at the relationship label that comes up.
>> 
>> I am running 8.0.0.559  I will make the update this evening to 8.0.0.566.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Donna Newell
>> Ardmore, OK
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
>> Behalf Of Gene Young
>> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 3:33 PM
>> To: Legacy User Group
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] miss labeling of individual
>> 
>> In famil y view, is the radio button selected for male or female.  If male,
>> click on female radio button.
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/2/2016 4:20 PM, Brian Kelly wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Have you recalculated the relationships? What build of Legacy are you
>> 
>> using? I am using 8.0.0.556 and I Just recalculated relationships in my
>> file. My 2nd great Grand aunts are showing the correct term. Uncles are also
>> correct.
>>> 
>>> Brian Kelly
>>> 
>>>> On 02-Sep-16 1:45 PM, Donna Newell wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> No I have her listed as a female, she is on the right side of the screen.
>>>> If I knew how to get a screen shot I would send it.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: LegacyUserGroup
>>>> [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of Brian
>>>> Kelly
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 10:35 AM
>>>> To: Legacy User Group
>>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] miss labeling of indiv idual
>>>> 
>>>> If she is not married you need to open her for edit and change the
>>>> gend

Re: [LegacyUG] miss labeling of individual

[Donna Newell]

Thanks everyone for the assistance.

The radio button was listed as female.  I had originally put her in as an
unknown sex because I only knew the mother had x number of children and I
didn't know the sex of two of them. I changed it to female when I found out
the correct sex and the name.

I tried check/repair, it did not fix the problem.

I took a little nap and came up with totally deleting the individual and
putting her back in.  Made FGS and copied the notes.  Put her in as the
correct sex with everything that was in there before.  

That fixed the problem.

I had one other child listed as an unknown, so I went in and did an
experiment, I changed that one to a female, and low and behold she was
listed the same way as the first, as an uncle.  For some reason Legacy is
not recognizing the sex switch for unknown sex to the sex you subsequently
choose.  I have done this on others, I just don't remember the ones I did it
to right now, and had gone in and changed the sex when I knew what they
were.  I will have to look carefully at the children now when I make such a
change.

Go ahead and try the experiment.  Put in a child of unknown sex to a family,
then change it to female and look at the relationship label that comes up.

I am running 8.0.0.559  I will make the update this evening to 8.0.0.566.



Donna Newell
Ardmore, OK

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Young
Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 3:33 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] miss labeling of individual

In family view, is the radio button selected for male or female.  If male,
click on female radio button.


On 9/2/2016 4:20 PM, Brian Kelly wrote:



> Have you recalculated the relationships? What build of Legacy are you
using? I am using 8.0.0.556 and I Just recalculated relationships in my
file. My 2nd great Grand aunts are showing the correct term. Uncles are also
correct.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
> On 02-Sep-16 1:45 PM, Donna Newell wrote:
>> No I have her listed as a female, she is on the right side of the screen.
>> If I knew how to get a screen shot I would send it.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: LegacyUserGroup 
>> [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of Brian 
>> Kelly
>> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 10:35 AM
>> To: Legacy User Group
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] miss labeling of individual
>>
>> If she is not married you need to open her for edit and change the 
>> gender from M to F. if she is married then you have to use Edit > 
>> Swap husband and wife to change gender for both her and her spouse.
>>
>> After making the change you will have to recalculate the relationships.
>>
>> Brian Kelly
>>
>> On 02-Sep-16 11:21 AM, Martha Graham wrote:
>>> Hi Donna,
>>> When you look at the person in the 'family view' is she on the right
side?
>>> If you inadvertently added her in on the left side, Legacy would 
>>> automatically assume she was a male.
>>>
>>> If so, I think you can unlink her from the family as a son, then 
>>> relink her as a daughter.
>>>
>>> Martha A Graham
>>> In Los Osos, CA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] miss labeling of individual

[Donna Newell]

No I have her listed as a female, she is on the right side of the screen.
If I knew how to get a screen shot I would send it.

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Brian Kelly
Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 10:35 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] miss labeling of individual

If she is not married you need to open her for edit and change the gender
from M to F. if she is married then you have to use Edit > Swap husband and
wife to change gender for both her and her spouse.

After making the change you will have to recalculate the relationships.

Brian Kelly

On 02-Sep-16 11:21 AM, Martha Graham wrote:
> Hi Donna,
> When you look at the person in the 'family view' is she on the right side?
> If you inadvertently added her in on the left side, Legacy would 
> automatically assume she was a male.
>
> If so, I think you can unlink her from the family as a son, then 
> relink her as a daughter.
>
> Martha A Graham
> In Los Osos, CA
>
>
>
>


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[LegacyUG] miss labeling of individual

[Donna Newell]

I have in my data base a female that is supposed to be identified as 2nd
great-great aunt.  Instead for some reason Legacy has chosen to label her as
2nd great-great uncle.  

Does anyone have any ideas why?

I am using Legacy 8 Deluxe

 

Donna Newell

Ardmore, OK

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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage Place Search

[Donna Newell]

Thanks, I was looking in the wrong place.

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 18, 2016, at 3:52 AM, Jenny M Benson <ge...@cedarbank.me.uk> wrote:
> 
>> On 17-Jul-16 11:51 PM, Donna Newell wrote:
>> Does anyone know if there is a way to do a search on marriage place?  I 
>> wasn't able to locate it.
> 
> You need to select Marriage in the first search field, not Individual, then 
> you get a selection of Search criteria relating to marriages.
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[LegacyUG] Marriage Place Search

[Donna Newell]

Does anyone know if there is a way to do a search on marriage place?  I wasn't 
able to locate it.

Donna Newell

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Re: [LegacyUG] The USER Group purpose?

[Donna Newell]

Linda, I think you must be my sister from another mother.  Very well said.

Legacy user since ver 2

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> On Apr 11, 2016, at 10:50 PM, Linda Greethurst  wrote:
> 
> Ok, people.  This is NOT supposed to be the Legacy Whiners Group!  Pull up 
> your big person pants and adjust/adapt.  This isn't Facebook, never has been 
> Facebook and probably never will be Facebook.  Get over it.
> 
> This is a USERS group.  Share with the rest of us YOUR tips on how you USE 
> the program.  Allow the rest of us to ask questions with honest answers from 
> lots of people on how to do a process.  We are all aware that there is  
> always more than your way of doing things.  I don't need to know about your 
> programming skills - I want to know how to USE Legacy.  What little hints 
> have you learned?- then share them.  What major discovery have you made using 
> the program that made your data entry/analysis easier? - share them.
> 
> So, - quit with the whining and negative comments.  ENUF - OK?!  No more 
> comments like we've had for the last 3 months.
> 
> Let's start being helpful and sharing - and all become better genealogists by 
> how we USE Legacy.
> 
> Linda
>  (a Legacy USEr since version 3)
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RE: [LegacyUG] Soliciting an opinion

[Donna Newell]

I also like Morgan's book Advanced Genealogy Research Techniques. It is on sale 
right now at Ancestry.

Donna Newell
Ardmore, Oklahoma

-Original Message-
From: Donna Newell [mailto:djnewel...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 2:46 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Soliciting an opinion

I bought them and found them very informative.  What books you choose depends 
on where you are in your learning curve.
A couple of choices are:
How To Do Everything Genealogy
Karen Clifford's books, Genealogy for the Complete Beginner, Genealogy and 
Computers for the Advanced Researcher, and there is one For The Determined 
Researcher Greenwood' book The Researcher's Guide to American Genealogy 
Geoffrey Rasmussen's book Legacy Family Tree Unlocked Abbreviations & Acronyms 
by Sperry

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 10, 2015, at 11:38 PM, David Trussell <dstruss...@icloud.com> wrote:
>
> I have two questions for the group:
>
>1. Has anyone purchased Legacy’s e-learning CD-ROMS? Does anyone have an 
> opinion about them?
>
>2. Can anyone suggest a book on genealogy? How about the books by 
> Elizabeth Shown Mills? Or are internet resources sufficient for learning?
>
> Thank you for any wisdom anybody cares to impart.
>
> Dave
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Soliciting an opinion

[Donna Newell]

I bought them and found them very informative.  What books you choose depends 
on where you are in your learning curve.
A couple of choices are:
How To Do Everything Genealogy
Karen Clifford's books, Genealogy for the Complete Beginner, Genealogy and 
Computers for the Advanced Researcher, and there is one For The Determined 
Researcher
Greenwood' book The Researcher's Guide to American Genealogy
Geoffrey Rasmussen's book Legacy Family Tree Unlocked
Abbreviations & Acronyms by Sperry

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 10, 2015, at 11:38 PM, David Trussell  wrote:
>
> I have two questions for the group:
>
>1. Has anyone purchased Legacy’s e-learning CD-ROMS? Does anyone have an 
> opinion about them?
>
>2. Can anyone suggest a book on genealogy? How about the books by 
> Elizabeth Shown Mills? Or are internet resources sufficient for learning?
>
> Thank you for any wisdom anybody cares to impart.
>
> Dave
>
>
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RE: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Error in new version

[Donna Newell]

Who does deadlines for reports and conferences in Legacy?  It is a genealogy 
program not excel or word.

Donna Newell



From: CE WOOD [mailto:wood...@msn.com]
Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 4:15 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Error in new version



Many thanks to all who have emailed me off-list. I will continue to be the 
"point" person since you have made clear your reluctance to incur the wrath of 
those "defenders of the faith" who dismiss our concerns.

CE


  _

From: s...@ihug.co.nz
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re[2]: [LegacyUG] Error in new version
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 05:15:11 +

I agree Ron.  As I mentioned 2 weeks ago I am discriminated against by not 
encountering any bugs, when judging by other comments in this forum, the 
program is riddled with bugs to the extent that it barely functions.














   . My tree has 5800 names including  contact details of  most of the 2000 
plus living in around 50 different countries.  It stretches to 14 generations, 
includes media files, and I produce a wide range of Legacy generated reports.  
No problems have been encountered other than the lacking feature of same sex 
marriages (the workaround for that advised very quickly by Support works well) 
and the occasional error report suggesting file maintenance. Just at present I 
am working with the program for 10 plus hours a day in preparation for a family 
reunion



I wish my recent upgrade to Windows 10 was as straightforward and error free as 
Legacy upgrades have been.



cheers from Stan in Wellington

-- Original Message --

From: "Ronald Bernier" <ronaldbern...@icloud.com>

To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com

Sent: 7/09/2015 1:25:57 p.m.

Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error in new version



CE, since you feel that you repeatedly need to voice your negative anti-legacy 
comments, why don’t you just move on and find a program that fits your needs.  
Obviously, Legacy is not that program.  Are there bugs in Legacy – yes, there 
are. However,  I challenge you to find any program that doesn’t have bugs.  Are 
the bugs as serious and as numerous as you try to make everyone think they are 
– absolutely not.  As David indicated, often times, people come on this list 
and complain about a bug that they encountered, when the reality is that the 
user was responsible for the issue, not the program.



Ron Bernier



From: CE WOOD [mailto:wood...@msn.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 9:07 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error in new version



I am so glad for you, but the bug list is long, well-documented, and makes it 
impossible to meet deadlines for reports, conferences, et alia.

Perhaps you have simple needs and small databases, don't have deadlines to be 
met that the bugs make impossible, and so forth. A cursory search of the 
archive will show you what you have missed and that we are missing. Some of the 
bugs have gone uncorrected since Legacy 8 was introduced. Not being able to 
earn your living for that long because of old and new bugs? Please.


CE



  _


Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 19:41:25 -0500
From: hee...@usit.net
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error in new version

Got to agree...this is a great program & I've had few problems over the 
years...and those were quickly resolved.

I think they are doing a great job.

Sally

On 9/6/2015 7:25 PM, David Abernathy wrote:

I have been running Lrgacy for msny years and as of yet to have any of these 
issues tha have been brought forward. It appears to me that they are mainly do 
to ones own doings and poor system maintance.
Sent from my Kindle Fire
In God We Trust


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From: CE WOOD mailto:wood...@msn.com
Sent: Sun Sep 06 16:59:37 PDT 2015
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error in new version



"It seems ev

Re: [LegacyUG] question

[Donna Newell]

Good point.  I will try it again tomorrow and see how it goes.  I like the idea 
you suggested of typing in word.

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 7, 2015, at 11:05 PM, Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Donna,
> How aggravating! I would think you inadvertently clicked Cancel instead of 
> Save.
>
> You don't say whether you were typing in General Notes, an Event Note or 
> elsewhere.
>
> It's not such a bad idea to save more often.
>
> Another option is to do the typing in your Word Processor if that's set up to 
> auto save more often and then copy and paste the text into Legacy.
>
> Cathy
>
> Donna Newell wrote:
>>
>> I have just spent a half hour typing a large document into legacy only
>> to find it has disappeared. This has happened a number of times to me.
>> Anyone have any ideas what is going on. And yes I run file maintenance.
>>
>> Donna Newell
>
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[LegacyUG] question

[Donna Newell]

I have just spent a half hour typing a large document into legacy only to
find it has disappeared.  This has happened a number of times to me.  Anyone
have any ideas what is going on.  And yes I run file maintenance.



Donna Newell





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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 507

[Donna Newell]

Then where is a safe place to do a backup?  I did it on the usb drive and my 
media didn't come over. Now I have to figure out how to find the media and re 
hook it up, tried the media re linker and it didn't find any of the pictures.  
All I wanted to do was create a separate file of my Legacy 7 file and see how 
it would work on Legacy 8.  Now I am all messed up.  Sometimes technology just 
gets the best of me.

Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 10, 2015, at 1:43 AM, Rune Mattsson rune.matts...@gmail.com wrote:

 I personally should not save importent data as a back up on a USB drive, and 
 especially not on an NTFS formatted such.

 I changed once PC and moved several 100 photos with a portable USB HDD and 
 many photos were damaged, some were completely destroyed, others had strokes 
 and lines, or were discolored.

 I have heard that an NTFS formatted USB unit is more sensitive to 
 interruptions and a Legacy Back Up is a zipped file which means that if a 
 single bit or byte gets wrong then probably the whole file is destroyed.




 2015-07-09 19:21 GMT+02:00 Donna Newell djnewel...@gmail.com:
 Thank you so much Mike.  I reformatted the thumb drive with NTFS and it 
 worked like a charm.  I am so glad someone is out there looking out for all 
 of us.

 Donna

 -Original Message-
 From: MikeFry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 5:22 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 507

 On 2015/07/09 00:07 AM, Donna Newell wrote:
  I was trying to save to a 16gig empty thumb drive.

 Did you read the last paragraph?

 The error will also occur if attempting to save a backup file greater than 
 4gb on a disk formatted with the FAT32 file system.  You must use the NTFS 
 disk format if files are larger than 4gb.  Alternately, all of our backup 
 programs allow you to save the backup file in smaller 'chunks' to avoid the 
 4gb limit of FAT32.

 --
 Regards,
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RE: [LegacyUG] Error 507

[Donna Newell]

Thank you so much Mike.  I reformatted the thumb drive with NTFS and it worked 
like a charm.  I am so glad someone is out there looking out for all of us.

Donna

-Original Message-
From: MikeFry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 5:22 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 507

On 2015/07/09 00:07 AM, Donna Newell wrote:
 I was trying to save to a 16gig empty thumb drive.

Did you read the last paragraph?

The error will also occur if attempting to save a backup file greater than 4gb 
on a disk formatted with the FAT32 file system.  You must use the NTFS disk 
format if files are larger than 4gb.  Alternately, all of our backup programs 
allow you to save the backup file in smaller 'chunks' to avoid the 4gb limit of 
FAT32.

--
Regards,
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[LegacyUG] Error 507

[Donna Newell]

Could anyone please tell me what it means when you receive Backup Error:
507, Cannot write to Zip file.

I was trying to make a copy of my data from 7 to put into 8, then backup the
data.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 507

[Donna Newell]

I was trying to save to a 16gig empty thumb drive.

Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 8, 2015, at 12:44 PM, Michele/Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com 
 wrote:

 Donna,
 If you go to our Tech Support page here http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/  
 and type Error 507 in the search box, you will get this article from our 
 Knowledge Base.

 http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00267


 Michele
 Technical Support
 mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
 www.legacyfamilytree.com

 From: Donna Newell [mailto:djnewel...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 11:05 AM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Error 507

 Could anyone please tell me what it means when you receive “Backup Error:  
 507, Cannot write to Zip file”.
 I was trying to make a copy of my data from 7 to put into 8, then backup the 
 data.


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RE: [LegacyUG] pictures

[Donna Newell]

Ok, I am going slowly out of my mind.  I have tried to follow everything 
everyone has said and I can not find a place to copy paste a picture of a 
document.  I know it was really simple in 7.  I did not want to store the 
pictures in the picture file on C, I didn’t before but do I have to now?  I can 
not create a folder in the flash drive path Irwin-media, I cannot even add a 
new folder to the information on the drive.  Right now I can’t find where 
everthing (picture wise) went when I created this line on the drive.  I am 
assuming it went to media somehow, but now it won’t let me in.  If I cannot add 
to this folder what am I suppose to do?  My brain right now is mush and I can 
not figure this out.

Someone spell it out in 5th grade English please before I just bag the whole 
thing.



Donna



From: Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, August 1, 2014 9:38 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] pictures



You could put all the pictures in one folder or put them in any structure of 
folders and sub-folders you wish.  Then run the Relinker.  If the actual file 
names have not changed, the Relinker should be able to find them and fix the 
link to them.  Once you have all media relinked, then you can backup the data 
and media.  Delete the media folders if you don't need the pictures for 
anything else.  Then unzip the backup media file to the C:\ and it will lay 
down the folders and files as they were at the time of the backup.  Only the 
linked files will be in the backup.  So, if you had 10,000 picture files that 
you copied from the Mac to the PC and only 5,000 of them were linked to the 
Reunions file, you should only have 5,000 on the PC when you finish with the 
Relinker, Backup, Delete, and restore.

Ron Taylor



On Friday, August 1, 2014 7:54 PM, Donna Newell djnewel...@gmail.com wrote:



Ron, thanks for the informed answer.  It makes a little more sense now. You are 
saying I can create a folder, I am assuming in Legacy, in which to place all of 
my media and Legacy will recognize and locate it at the appropriate time.  
Should I place all of the media I have previously linked in there, transferring 
from their location to the new one?  Will I have to relink again after doing so?



Thanks again for your response.



Donna



From: Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 7:37 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] pictures



Donna,

You may have been linking to media files that were inside a zipped file which 
is a special kind of folder.  That method was addressed recently by some users 
on this group and it helped to resolve several problems.  The conclusion was to 
not do that.  Always link to media that is not in a compressed folder.  Other 
than that, you can place your media files just about anywhere you wish, link to 
them, and be happy.  I like to put my media files in a root level folder 
because I collaborate with several other researchers.  Some of those 
researchers still use Windows XP while others use Vista, Windows7, and 
Windows8.  With a root level folder like C:\Collaborator1 it is easy for 
collaborator 1 to put whatever media they want in that folder and not be 
concerned with other collaborators messing with their collection.  
Collaborator2 likewise has their own collection folder and so forth.  The 
collaborators can make any sub-folders they need under their root level folder. 
 The Legacy backup of media only puts the media files into the backup for the 
database being backed up.  The only precaution with this method is to not use 
the Gather Media routine as it will move all the media to some other location 
regardless of the various collaborators who collected it and kept it 
separately.  The Gather routine probably does work for a single researcher that 
does not collaborate.

Ron Taylor



On Thursday, July 31, 2014 1:12 PM, Donna Newell djnewel...@gmail.com wrote:



I am trying to save a picture of a census record to Legacy 8.  In Legacy 7 my 
folder on the drive I used looked like this:



1  Legacy12/29/2012 3:57 PM  File 
folder

1 Irwin 2014-07-08 1,48.48 PM   7/8/2014 1:48 PM  Compressed (zipped) 
Folder



I could click on Legacy and it would open to:



1  Pictures 12/29/2012 3:55 PM  File 
folder



Which I then could click and it would open to smaller folders and pictures that 
I had stored for my data base.



In Legacy 8 I am unable to do that.  There is no Legacy folder, only the name 
folders and media folders.  There is one labeled with a circle and an L in the 
middle with 11,448 KB in it, plus an Microsoft Assess Record-Locking 
Information icon with 0 KB in it.



I would before save the picture to my computer, then copy it to the folder with 
Pictures and from there go to the Picture Center and find the picture in the 
Browse slot.



Now I cannot find where

RE: [LegacyUG] pictures

[Donna Newell]

Ron, thanks for the informed answer.  It makes a little more sense now. You are 
saying I can create a folder, I am assuming in Legacy, in which to place all of 
my media and Legacy will recognize and locate it at the appropriate time.  
Should I place all of the media I have previously linked in there, transferring 
from their location to the new one?  Will I have to relink again after doing so?



Thanks again for your response.



Donna



From: Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 7:37 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] pictures



Donna,

You may have been linking to media files that were inside a zipped file which 
is a special kind of folder.  That method was addressed recently by some users 
on this group and it helped to resolve several problems.  The conclusion was to 
not do that.  Always link to media that is not in a compressed folder.  Other 
than that, you can place your media files just about anywhere you wish, link to 
them, and be happy.  I like to put my media files in a root level folder 
because I collaborate with several other researchers.  Some of those 
researchers still use Windows XP while others use Vista, Windows7, and 
Windows8.  With a root level folder like C:\Collaborator1 it is easy for 
collaborator 1 to put whatever media they want in that folder and not be 
concerned with other collaborators messing with their collection.  
Collaborator2 likewise has their own collection folder and so forth.  The 
collaborators can make any sub-folders they need under their root level folder. 
 The Legacy backup of media only puts the media files into the backup for the 
database being backed up.  The only precaution with this method is to not use 
the Gather Media routine as it will move all the media to some other location 
regardless of the various collaborators who collected it and kept it 
separately.  The Gather routine probably does work for a single researcher that 
does not collaborate.

Ron Taylor



On Thursday, July 31, 2014 1:12 PM, Donna Newell djnewel...@gmail.com wrote:



I am trying to save a picture of a census record to Legacy 8.  In Legacy 7 my 
folder on the drive I used looked like this:



1  Legacy12/29/2012 3:57 PM  File 
folder

1 Irwin 2014-07-08 1,48.48 PM   7/8/2014 1:48 PM  Compressed (zipped) 
Folder



I could click on Legacy and it would open to:



1  Pictures 12/29/2012 3:55 PM  File 
folder



Which I then could click and it would open to smaller folders and pictures that 
I had stored for my data base.



In Legacy 8 I am unable to do that.  There is no Legacy folder, only the name 
folders and media folders.  There is one labeled with a circle and an L in the 
middle with 11,448 KB in it, plus an Microsoft Assess Record-Locking 
Information icon with 0 KB in it.



I would before save the picture to my computer, then copy it to the folder with 
Pictures and from there go to the Picture Center and find the picture in the 
Browse slot.



Now I cannot find where to put the picture to load it into Legacy.



I would like someone to help me out.



Donna in Ardmore



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[LegacyUG] pictures

[Donna Newell]

I am trying to save a picture of a census record to Legacy 8.  In Legacy 7
my folder on the drive I used looked like this:



1  Legacy12/29/2012 3:57 PM
File folder

1 Irwin 2014-07-08 1,48.48 PM   7/8/2014 1:48 PM  Compressed
(zipped) Folder



I could click on Legacy and it would open to:



1  Pictures 12/29/2012 3:55 PM  File
folder



Which I then could click and it would open to smaller folders and pictures
that I had stored for my data base.



In Legacy 8 I am unable to do that.  There is no Legacy folder, only the
name folders and media folders.  There is one labeled with a circle and an L
in the middle with 11,448 KB in it, plus an Microsoft Assess Record-Locking
Information icon with 0 KB in it.



I would before save the picture to my computer, then copy it to the folder
with Pictures and from there go to the Picture Center and find the picture
in the Browse slot.



Now I cannot find where to put the picture to load it into Legacy.



I would like someone to help me out.



Donna in Ardmore




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RE: [LegacyUG] pictures

[Donna Newell]

Thank you I appreciate all of your help.



Donna in Ardmore



From: Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 9:59 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] pictures



Now I think I understand your situation.  When you backup a Legacy database, it 
produces 2 zip files.  One for data and another for media.



You have already converted your Legacy 7 data to version 8.  Now unzip the 
media to your new locaiton for media and then run the relinker.





On Monday, July 21, 2014 4:02 PM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net 
wrote:



Donna,

Have you searched the archives?  There were a lot of threads about relinking 
media and such right about the time v8 came out.  The link is at the bottom of 
this email.

--Paula in Texas



From: Donna Newell djnewel...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 11:51 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] pictures



So far nothing is working on linking up the pictures.  I printed a list of 
missing, 1188, and I can link them individually.  Now that will take a long 
time.  It finds the pictures on the other flash drive where they were 
associated with Legacy 7.5, it is still using that drive as the designation for 
where they are.  I wanted them to transfer over to the Legacy 8 flash drive.  
Media Linker won’t link them up.  Am I reduced to doing each one and having the 
media stored on the other flash drive.  This does not seem logical.  I am sure 
there has to be a very easy way to do this.  Suggestions welcome.

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[LegacyUG] pictures

[Donna Newell]

So far nothing is working on linking up the pictures.  I printed a list of
missing, 1188, and I can link them individually.  Now that will take a long
time.  It finds the pictures on the other flash drive where they were
associated with Legacy 7.5, it is still using that drive as the designation
for where they are.  I wanted them to transfer over to the Legacy 8 flash
drive.  Media Linker won't link them up.  Am I reduced to doing each one and
having the media stored on the other flash drive.  This does not seem
logical.  I am sure there has to be a very easy way to do this.  Suggestions
welcome.

Donna in Ardmore




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Re: [LegacyUG] pictures

[Donna Newell]

Thank you Cathy, I will try what you have suggested in the morning. My drive 
with the media in it is attached, but it doesn't seem to have found it.  Could 
it be because it was associated only with Legacy 7.5 and I used sub folders.

Donna

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 On Jul 16, 2014, at 7:57 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Donna,
 Once set up, adding media in Legacy 8 is much easier than in earlier
 versions.

 You say your attached media is on a separate drive. I assume that drive
 is always connected to your computer when using Legacy. If not, that is
 your first problem. Legacy links to media - that media must be available.

 Have you run the Tool Media Relinker to fix those 1128 missing photos?

 Have you set Option 6.2 to your default media folder? This is the parent
 folder of your sub-folder system. If your media isn't in a set of
 sub-folders to a parent folder but in a number of unconnected folders,
 you may want to rearrange before running the Media Relinker.

 Then, when adding a new picture, if it isn't already in the Default
 Media Folder you've designated at Option 6.2 you have the choice of
 moving or copying it to that folder OR on another tab of that dialogue
 to any other folder - which is the way to make sure it's in the
 appropriate sub-folder.

 I'm not sure I've covered all your queries but hope that helps.

 Cathy

 Donna Newell mailto:djnewel...@gmail.com
 Thursday, 17 July 2014 8:12 AM

 I have just loaded one of the family files to Legacy 8.  The pictures
 did not all make the switch.  I just attempted to add a picture using
 the picture center and I had to go through a number of steps, much
 different than Legacy 7.5, which was really easy.  Downloaded a
 picture, filed it in Legacy Pictures/Pictures, and then had a separate
 folder for different events; ie marrage records was one.  I don’t seem
 to be able to do that in 8.  Am I missing something?  I saved the
 picture to Legacy Pictures/Pictures on a separate drive(which is
 normal), then couldn’t get a secondary folder for it.  Then added the
 picture.  But when I went back it wasn’t there.  I had to go in a
 relink the pictures again.  Which still shows 1128 missing photos or
 documents.  Can anyone give me some assistance?

 Donna Ardmore, Oklahoma



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RE: [LegacyUG] pictures

[Donna Newell]

I tried to combine all of the media locations in customize 6.2 and ended up 
with more media files missing, I am now up to 1899.  What am I doing wrong now? 
 Can you give me a detailed step by step to accomplish my task.  I am beginning 
to feel very stupid on this.  Legacy has always been very user friendly and I 
have recommended it to lots of people because of that feature.  Now I am 
stumped, read the chapter in the book and looked at the help section, still at 
a loss.  I also think I now screwed up by combining all of the media files.

Donna

-Original Message-
From: Donna Newell [mailto:djnewel...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 11:01 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] pictures

Thank you Cathy, I will try what you have suggested in the morning. My drive 
with the media in it is attached, but it doesn't seem to have found it.  Could 
it be because it was associated only with Legacy 7.5 and I used sub folders.

Donna

Sent from my iPad

 On Jul 16, 2014, at 7:57 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Donna,
 Once set up, adding media in Legacy 8 is much easier than in earlier
 versions.

 You say your attached media is on a separate drive. I assume that
 drive is always connected to your computer when using Legacy. If not,
 that is your first problem. Legacy links to media - that media must be 
 available.

 Have you run the Tool Media Relinker to fix those 1128 missing photos?

 Have you set Option 6.2 to your default media folder? This is the
 parent folder of your sub-folder system. If your media isn't in a set
 of sub-folders to a parent folder but in a number of unconnected
 folders, you may want to rearrange before running the Media Relinker.

 Then, when adding a new picture, if it isn't already in the Default
 Media Folder you've designated at Option 6.2 you have the choice of
 moving or copying it to that folder OR on another tab of that dialogue
 to any other folder - which is the way to make sure it's in the
 appropriate sub-folder.

 I'm not sure I've covered all your queries but hope that helps.

 Cathy

 Donna Newell mailto:djnewel...@gmail.com Thursday, 17 July 2014
 8:12 AM

 I have just loaded one of the family files to Legacy 8.  The pictures
 did not all make the switch.  I just attempted to add a picture using
 the picture center and I had to go through a number of steps, much
 different than Legacy 7.5, which was really easy.  Downloaded a
 picture, filed it in Legacy Pictures/Pictures, and then had a
 separate folder for different events; ie marrage records was one.  I
 don’t seem to be able to do that in 8.  Am I missing something?  I
 saved the picture to Legacy Pictures/Pictures on a separate
 drive(which is normal), then couldn’t get a secondary folder for
 it.  Then added the picture.  But when I went back it wasn’t there.
 I had to go in a relink the pictures again.  Which still shows 1128
 missing photos or documents.  Can anyone give me some assistance?

 Donna Ardmore, Oklahoma



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[LegacyUG] pictures

[Donna Newell]

I have just loaded one of the family files to Legacy 8.  The pictures did
not all make the switch.  I just attempted to add a picture using the
picture center and I had to go through a number of steps, much different
than Legacy 7.5, which was really easy.  Downloaded a picture, filed it in
Legacy Pictures/Pictures, and then had a separate folder for different
events; ie marrage records was one.  I don't seem to be able to do that in
8.  Am I missing something?  I saved the picture to Legacy Pictures/Pictures
on a separate drive(which is normal), then couldn't get a secondary folder
for it.  Then added the picture.  But when I went back it wasn't there.  I
had to go in a relink the pictures again.  Which still shows 1128 missing
photos or documents.  Can anyone give me some assistance?



Donna Ardmore, Oklahoma




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RE: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8

[Donna Newell]

Everything comes with some issues at first.  We just have to be patient and 
look for the positive and stop only dwelling on the negative.

We should all be really thankful that the programmers are not the ones that put 
up the Obumer care web site.  See there is a really big positive.  Nothing is 
crashing.



Donna in Ardmore, OK



From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 5:13 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Not happy with v8



CG,

You are free to do what you wish.

As a tester, I know that myself, and most of my testing colleagues, were not 
just testing that new features worked but that all of the functions worked. I 
personally built new large family files with L8, faster that I could have with 
L7.5. Created reports, exported Gedcoms to TNG, etc etc.

Talking out of turn maybe...

1/ Making Legacy 8 better conform to Microsoft standards was huge issue for the 
testers world wide. It is the first step for Legacy making some other moves to 
comply with expected 21st century standards in future revisions. Remember, 
Millennia is not a huge company like Ancestry with dozens of programmers and 
more money to spend than they know how to spend. Moving from a 15+ year old 
platform to today's platform cannot be done easily whilst maintaining the 
essential character of the product.

When Ancestry did this with Family Tree Maker, they lost a ton of customers 
(many of which Legacy gained... ;-) ) and the character and functionality of 
FTM today is quite different, but in many ways still not what Legacy is today.

2/ Many L8 features are still to come. When this birthing is over, I suspect we 
will start going on more new stuff.

3/ Roots Magic is a good product but functionally not up to what Legacy can do. 
It does some stuff better than Legacy but more things poorer than Legacy. It 
does not give you all of the options that Legacy gives. AND RM does not have 
the international support that Legacy has.

If a user does not want to be a pioneer with new software and help birth ANY 
new product, wait 30-60 days to upgrade when the kinks get worked out by those 
who do.

Hoping you will stay with the team... as I value your input,

john.











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RE: [LegacyUG] Not interested in political social insults

[Donna Newell]

I just thought that everyone should look on the positive side.  Sorry I hit you 
hot button.

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Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2013 5:42 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Not interested in political social insults

Etiquette: From the Legacy website :
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issues, religious opinion or morality lectures. Millennia Corporation reserves 
the right to ban discussion of hot button topics that are divisive; 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Customer Number for Legacy 8 Upgrades

[Donna Newell]

Isn’t the customer number found under help, general information?  I thought it 
would be there when you opened the file?



Donna Newell



From: William Boswell [mailto:whb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 2:59 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Customer Number for Legacy 8 Upgrades



I just purchased the upgrade for Legacy 8 online this morning at 10:30am (EST) 
and still have not received my new customer number for the deluxe version.  
Will there be a delay in sending them out this week because of Thanksgiving?  I 
read that it could take up to 24 hours, but usually it arrives sooner.  I'm 
thinking because of the holiday maybe I won't get it until next week.



Bill Boswell



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[LegacyUG] Legacy Slowing Down

[Donna Newell]

I have noticed lately that my Legacy program has slowed down considerably.
Is there a point in which I should consider splitting my file?  I have 4912
Individuals, but a lot of data and multimedia.

Using version 7.5.0.219

Deluxe Edition

Build Date 15 Feb 2013.





Donna

Ardmore, Oklahoma




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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Slowing Down

[Donna Newell]

Thank you all.  I did as Sherry suggested.  I had done the File Maintenance 
before, but did not do the Compact Family File.  Added the New Build.  For Jay 
I am using ani7 processor 3770  3.4 GH with 1 TB HD with 801 GB free, 8 GB Ram 
and Win 8.  It seems faster not as sluggish.  Will play with it some more.  At 
least I am not experiencing the great delay I was.  I was attributing a lot of 
it to Win 8, which I could do without Thank you.  Hope their update cleans it 
up a lot.

Again Thank you all for your help and advise.

Donna Newell
Ardmore, Oklahoma

-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 5:01 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Slowing Down

On 2013/08/16 22:22, Wendy Howard wrote:

 I agree with the others - it probably has more to do with the machine
 you're using, than your Legacy file.

I concur. On Windows/7, the Microsoft Security Essentials runs at the most 
inopportune times, hogging one or more of the processors.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)



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RE: [LegacyUG] Salt Lake FHL Visit

[Donna Newell]

The staff at the FHL has the ability to assist you and are more than happy to.  
They won’t follow you around but will guide you to what you need and your stay 
will be productive.

Plan out what you want to accomplish, who it is you are looking for and in what 
areas of the country you think you would like to search for this person.  Bring 
along, I am assuming you have it on your computer, and an idea of what you are 
seeking so the Family History Consultant can look it over and steer you in the 
right direction.  Think of it as your road map and you want to get from point a 
to point b, but are unsure of the roads.  They are great at assisting that is 
what they are there for.  If you don’t connect with one ask for someone else, 
you won’t offend them, they know your time at the Library is valuable and want 
it to be a good experience.  The right consultant will make all the difference 
in the world.  Most all of the people are there serving a full time mission for 
the church and have been trained in serving in the Library to help make the 
patrons visit there productive.

I will be interested in what you have to say when you get back.

And I agree with Autumn Brown, you definitely want to get to the books first on 
you subject, books don’t circulate, films and fiche do.  You can always request 
them at a FHC near you.  Bring coins for the copy machine, or set up an 
account, I can’t remember how it worked there.  And DOCUMENT everything you 
find and make note of what you don’t find so you don’t go back to the same 
material again.  That is always a waste of time and energy.  It takes time at 
the moment but saves time in the long run.



Well that was wordy and you probably knew it all anyway.



Donna Newell

Ardmore, Oklahoma



From: Duane Baker [mailto:dbake...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 4:39 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Salt Lake FHL Visit



Weren't we advised this was off topic and should be pursued by email to 
concerned individuals only?



  _

From: singhals singh...@erols.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2013 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Salt Lake FHL Visit


Autumn Brown wrote:
 I am visiting the FHL in Salt Lake for the first time as an add on to a 
 business trip.  I've contacted a couple of companies that advertise research 
 services at the library to find out if I could hire a consultant for a day to 
 make my visit most productive but, after a week, have received no response 
 and I arrive tomorrow evening.

 I would appreciate any advice you all may have about the library and how to 
 make my visit more productive.  I have noted films I want to pull but don't 
 know what else I can do in advance.


It's probably too late to do Autumn any good but --

If you are going to the FHL for the first, and perhaps Only,
time -- do the books first.  Film circulates, books don't.

If you've only one day, then you want to pick low-hanging
fruit -- things that can /probably/ be found easily and
quickly on a reel of microfilm.

If you've got a week, pick the 3 items you want worst and
look for them one at a time.

If you've an entire month, spend one to three days
researching each area you're working.

The FHL's website used to have a map of the building showing
where the copy machines are and that sort of thing.  They
also used to have a trip-planning guide.

I say used to have because I haven't looked for them since
the 2013 revamp and don't know if they've been removed.

Cheryl





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RE: [LegacyUG] Geoff

[Donna Newell]

Omygosh this sounds like Obama care bill passage!

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Uttley [mailto:b...@uwaterloo.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 9:51 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Geoff

On April 24 in the thread V8, Sherry in Technical support replied about this 
subject.  She wrote:

We'll have to wait for the release to find out what will be in v8.

Or Geoff's presentation mentioned in another email - whichever comes
first.

From the list of scheduled Legacy webinars it seems that the presentation at 
the SCGS Genealogy Jamboree will be the _first_. Does this User Group have any 
members who plan to attend the session at the Southern California Genealogical 
Society Jamboree on June 7?

On Wed, 29 May 2013, Michele Lewis wrote:

 Geoff is presenting a What's New in Legacy Family Tree 8 on June 7th
 at the SCGS Genealogy Jamboree.  Will this information be posted to
 the list of VERY LOYAL Legacy users as well?

 Michele




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RE: [LegacyUG] Panic!

[Donna Newell]

The problem is if you contact Dell you will get someone from India that you 
can't understand, and they will be very short with you and rather impatient 
with you also for your not understanding them.  Been through the process 3 
times in the last couple of months with a brand new W8 computer, I have had to 
reinstall W8 twice, I'm actually getting pretty good at it.
If I might make another suggestion that I have not seen offered.  I noticed you 
mentioned that you installed Turbo Tax and Java(as a side note sometimes Java 
causes problems), and you also installed Silverlight.  I would suggest that you 
do a restore back to before the problem started.  That would probably be before 
the other programs and other updates were added.  Pick one that was at least a 
week or 2 weeks prior to the creation of the problem.  Then return and report 
on the outcome.  I am betting your problem in Java and Silverlight and 
compatibility issues with the new version that was installed.
I would only do a reinstall of windows as a last resort, make sure you fully 
understand what you are getting into and the implication that come with it.  It 
wipes out a lot of stuff and you end up starting from scratch in SOME 
instances.  By doing the restore it is much safer and you are picking the time 
to go back to, if it doesn't look right just go back farther.
I am anxious to find out if this will work for you.  It is a less drastic fix.

Donna, Ardmore, Oklahoma

-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 6:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Panic!

Barbara,

I wasn't thinking of Dell, rather a local geek! However you can check the 
memory yourself - see:
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/diagnosing-memory-problems-on-your-computer
 - and look near the bottom of the page for manual running.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: BK Ford
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:42 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Panic!

See my response within (I hope that's allowed) in all caps to differentiate:



Sent from my iPad

On Apr 10, 2013, at 4:49 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
wrote:

 Barbara,

 I'm afraid that I have just had three hours sleep - I spent much of
 last night working on a rewrite of my Photo Album webpages (not yet
 finished) so have not really had chance to absorb the possible causes.
 UGH!!

 What is clear is
 that it is an installation problem, or an interaction from another
 program.
 The fact that you got so far indicates that it may be the latter,
 although by no means am I ruling the first option out.

 Have you recently installed *any* other program - especially, but not
 exclusively, an antivirus or firewall? BTW. have you tried closing
 down your PC., leaving it for a few minutes and restarting - if so
 does it still stop at opening the Sample file. I know many people
 still run V6 on WIN7, so that is unlikely to be the problem. You may
 like to try uninstalling, deleting the C:\Legacy folder shutting down
 your Anti-virus and Firewall while installing Legacy - this is not
 something which I would like to do myself btw..

ABOVE ARE ALL THINGS I HAVE TRIED. I EVEN UNINSTALLED THE THREE PROGRAMS I HAVE 
INSTALLED SINCE THE LAST TIME I USED LEGACY SUCCESSFULLY. STILL SAME ERROR. I 
DISABLED MY ANTIVIRUS FOR A CLEAN INSTALL. SAME PROBLEM. REMEMBER ALSO, THAT I 
HAVE USED THIS PROGRAM SUCCESSFULLY ON THIS COMPUTER.

 There is one other thing which comes to mind, how long have you had
 the PC., and was it new?

MY COMPUTER IS A DELL XPS 64 GB THAT IS 9 MONTHS OLD. AS FAR AS I KNOW I AM NOT 
HAVING OTHER PROBLEMS.

 some years ago on my then a few weeks old WIN XP, I kept having
 problems running programs (which makes me ask whether you have tried
 running other programs?) only to eventually find out that I had a
 defective RAM.

I USE MY COMPUTER NONSTOP EXCEPT THE LAST FEW DAYS WHEN I HAVE BEEN GONE A LOT, 
AND EVEN HAD IT WITH ME ONE OF THOSE DAYS, AND EVERYTHING ELSE SEEMS TO BE 
WORKING.
 I know that Brian is following this thread, maybe he can advise
 whether contacting their technical dept. will help, I'm not sure, but
 nothing will be lost by so doing.

 As you will have gathered these are just a few random thoughts,
 dotting i's and crossing t's, when I am more awake, I will switch my
 head on!

IT JUST SEEMED PRETTY HOPELESS TO ME WHEN THE TECH SUPPORT GUY, LOOKING INTO MY 
COMPUTER WITH GOTOASSIST SAID HE COULDN'T COME UP WITH ANYTHING. THEN WHEN HE 
SAID THIS HAPPENS FAIRLY OFTEN BUT HE DIDN'T HAVE A LIST OF INCOMPATIBLES 
ALREADY KNOWN, IT SEEMED LIKE THE WORST NEWS EVER.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/


 -Original Message-
 From: BK Ford
 Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 6:09 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Panic!

 Ron,
 I am sick. I have tried everything. I really thought 

RE: [LegacyUG] Adopted child

[Donna Newell]

In children's settings there is a drop down screen that you can make note of 
this.  Relationship to Father and Relationship to Mother.  The down arrow gives 
different suggestions, one is adopted.

Donna
Ardmore, Oklahoma


-Original Message-
From: Roland Rhoades [mailto:see...@maine.rr.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 6:17 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Adopted child

I usually just place him/her in the family that raised him, and in his personal 
notes mention he is adopted with as much info as I have.

Roland Rhoades
Maine Families Genealogist
www.RolandRhoades.com
see...@maine.rr.com
2010: 30 Years as a Genealogist


-Original Message-
From: Tony Rolfe [mailto:geneal...@gillandtony.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 7:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Adopted child

This is my first time facing this particular problem, so I want to get it 
right.  How should I record this person?

He appears in 1881 as Percy Turner, born abt 1876 in Fletching, Sussex.
  He is shown as a nephew of George Lay and Hannah nee Langridge.

Hannah's parents were George Langridge and Harriet Turner, so it seems likely 
that Percy was the grandchild of one of Harriet's siblings.
Unfortunately, I don't have any of her siblings recorded.

By 1891, he is still with George and Hannah and is recorded as their adopted 
nephew Percy T. Lay (known as).  Presumably the T is for Turner.

I've searched for his baptism without success, but I appear to have his birth 
from FreeBMD.  Even if I get his birth certificate, and find his parents, they 
almost certainly won't be in my database.

So, should I record him as a child of George and Hannah, even knowing he isn't 
theirs?

What is the best way to deal with this?

Thanks in advance

Tony



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[LegacyUG] deleting an MRIN

[Donna Newell]

I accidently selected unmarried for an individual on the marriage screen
when I should have selected never married on the individual screen.  Now I
can't get rid of it.  Any suggestions?







Donna






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[LegacyUG] deleting an MRIN

[Donna Newell]

I accidently selected unmarried for an individual on the marriage screen
when I should have selected never married on the individual screen.  Now I
can't get rid of it.  Any suggestions?







Donna






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[LegacyUG] deleting

[Donna Newell]

I accidently selected unmarried for an individual on the marriage screen
when I should have selected never married on the individual screen.  Now I
can't get rid of it.  Any suggestions?



Donna




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[LegacyUG] Mail

[Donna Newell]

I can not receive any mail, not even mine back.  What is wrong?




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