Re: [LegacyUG] /Descendant settings

[Judy]

Thank you.  A rebuild corrected my error.


On 4/10/2020 11:43 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:

On 10/04/2020 14:21, Judy wrote:
Thank you, Brian.  I have all of your referenced screens checked for 
the notes to be included and appear/print.  I also ran and Events 
Report - all of the event notes show up as intended.  Still the notes 
do not appear in the descendant narrative report.  What next?


Try Resetting the Report Options and then build it again.




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Re: [LegacyUG] /Descendant settings

[Judy]

Thank you, Brian.  I have all of your referenced screens checked for the 
notes to be included and appear/print.  I also ran and Events Report - 
all of the event notes show up as intended.  Still the notes do not 
appear in the descendant narrative report.  What next?


On 4/10/2020 8:50 AM, Brian Kelly wrote:
In report options for that descendant report (and any other book style 
report you use). Click the Event options button after selecting which 
events to include.


On the Event Options screen make sure there is a check box in the Add 
Event Notes and also in the Add shared event notes if applicable.


If you have those options turned on and the notes still do not show 
then you will have to check each event for the person and verify that 
on the event screen there is a check box in the Add the event notes to 
the sentence.


also go to View > Master Lists > Event Definition and check that the 
events causing your problem have a check in the add notes to sentences 
box.


I looked for a global way to change the add notes to sentences for all 
events and event definitions but I could not find one.


Brian Kelly

On 10-Apr.-20 8:08 a.m., Judy wrote:
Thanks, Joy, for a good explanation. However, when doing the 
Descendants report, the "notes" section of events does not print nor 
show up in a preview.  Any suggestions as to how to correct this 
absence?


Judy



On 4/10/2020 4:05 AM, a...@turiansky.nz wrote:

Hello Joy,

Hopefully my response will bring you some.


Descendants Report

Menu - Reports
Descendant or Descendant Narrative Book.   (I have used Descendant
Narrative book exclusively)
    (Complete the various submenus as fully as is needed.)
    (For number of Generations to report, ensure you see
"Generations" on the "Options" page)
Print or Preview.    (I suggest Preview first to verify you are
asking for the correct stuff.)

To select starting person, see "Create Report for Descendants of:"  
at base

of same "Options" Page.



Ancestor Report
=
Menu - Reports
Ancestor Book
(For number of Generations to report, ensure you see "Generations"
on the "Options" page)
Print or Preview.    (I suggest Preview first to verify you are
asking for the correct stuff.)

To select starting person (to go backward from), see "Create Report 
for the

Ancestors of:"  at base of same "Options" Page.



I hope this helps.  I have used both successfully many times.



Alan Torrance J.P. (Retired);    M.C.P.
1/61A Boyce Ave
Mt Roskill
Auckland   1041
New Zealand

Ph:  +64 9 627 1825
Mob:  +64 21 309 328




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Joy L
Sent: Friday, 10 April 2020 6:35 pm
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] /Descendant settings

Hello All

I want to send a chart or gedcom with my great- grand-fathers 
descendants,
only coming down to my dad,  but each time I try I get my mothers 
side of

the family and even my husbands side of the family, so nearly my whole
family tree, I am using Legacy 9.

Can someone give me some instructions please?

Also How would I do his Ancestors back 3 generations please?

Thanks

Joy Light








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Re: [LegacyUG] /Descendant settings

[Judy]

Thanks, Joy, for a good explanation.  However, when doing the 
Descendants report, the "notes" section of events does not print nor 
show up in a preview.  Any suggestions as to how to correct this absence?


Judy



On 4/10/2020 4:05 AM, a...@turiansky.nz wrote:

Hello Joy,

Hopefully my response will bring you some.


Descendants Report

Menu - Reports
Descendant or Descendant Narrative Book.   (I have used Descendant
Narrative book exclusively) 
(Complete the various submenus as fully as is needed.)
(For number of Generations to report, ensure you see
"Generations" on the "Options" page)
Print or Preview.(I suggest Preview first to verify you are
asking for the correct stuff.)

To select starting person, see "Create Report for Descendants of:"  at base
of same "Options" Page.



Ancestor Report
=
Menu -  Reports
Ancestor Book
(For number of Generations to report, ensure you see "Generations"
on the "Options" page)
Print or Preview.(I suggest Preview first to verify you are
asking for the correct stuff.)

To select starting person (to go backward from), see "Create Report for the
Ancestors of:"  at base of same "Options" Page.



I hope this helps.  I have used both successfully many times.



Alan Torrance J.P. (Retired);M.C.P.
1/61A Boyce Ave
Mt Roskill
Auckland   1041
New Zealand

Ph:  +64 9 627 1825
Mob:  +64 21 309 328




-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of
Joy L
Sent: Friday, 10 April 2020 6:35 pm
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] /Descendant settings

Hello All

I want to send a chart or gedcom with my great- grand-fathers descendants,
only coming down to my dad,  but each time I try I get my mothers side of
the family and even my husbands side of the family, so nearly my whole
family tree, I am using Legacy 9.

Can someone give me some instructions please?

Also How would I do his Ancestors back 3 generations please?

Thanks

Joy Light




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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 3035 during Check-Repair Build 9.0.0.318

[Judy]

Play nice, boys!!


On 10/7/2019 5:12 AM, Ronald Bernier via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
I was unaware that Legacy users were only allowed to post a question 
during certain hours.  This must be a new stipulation. 😁


Sent from ProtonMail Mobile


On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 5:08 AM, Jennie Matheson > wrote:

Not in Australia, Jeanine. This list is worldwide.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 8:07 PM Jeanine Bailiff > wrote:


It’s 2:05 a.m.!

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 2:03 AM Alan Thompson
mailto:alanthomp...@grapevine.com.au>> wrote:

Has anyone else had problems with the Check-Repair routine
using the latest release Legacy 9.0 Build 318.

I repeatedly get a “ Run Time Error ‘3035 System resource
exceeded “message at Step 65 of 219 of Check-Repair and was
wondering if anyone else was experiencing similar.

I tried uninstalling Legacy and re-installing (as recommended
for this error message) and running check-repair on the same
Family file but again received the same error message.

I also tried exporting my family file to a new Legacy
database and running Check-Repair on that, again without success.

However, on a different computer (with less resources, ie CPU
and Memory, but with the same version of Windows 10 with
latest updates), I ran check-repair using Legacy Version
9.0.0.301 (ie the previous release) on the same family files
(as above) and check-repair completed successfully in both cases.

Also restored a back-up of my family file taken immediately
prior to updating to Build 9.0.0.318. Running check repair on
this file using Version 9.0.0.318 again failed at the same
point, but successfully completed using 9.0.0.301.

My Family File details:

Number of Individuals: 143931

Number of Families: 44941

Master locations: 20761

Master Sources: 1245

Citations: 759965

Master events: 197212

used by individuals: 196591

used by marriages: 621

Master media items: 73894

times linked: 303918

I have reported this problem to support.

Alan Thompson

Canberra, Australia

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[LegacyUG] AFN Numbers

[Judy]

I do not use the AFN field.


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[LegacyUG] "A Sigma""

[Judy]

Can anyone offer a possible explanation for a notation, in an old German 
(1830's) baptismal record?  The words "A Sigma" appear on the same line 
as the child's name.  The RC records are written in Latin and are quite 
legible.

Thanks,
Judy

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[LegacyUG] My Heritage Search String

[Judy]

Does anyone have a working string for My Heritage that they might be 
willing to share.  I can get the [FirstName] in all right, but the 
[LastName] does not retrieve the correct data.  Any help will be appreciated


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Re: [LegacyUG] [OT] John Bull magazine / newspaper

[Judy]

I did a little research and found out that the Advertising Archives 
http://www.advertisingarchives.co.uk/en/page/show_home_page.html has 
exclusive rights to the John Bull magazine since the magazine folded 
circa 1964


I searched the site for 1954 and there are quite a few magazine covers 
that come up, but I could not tell if any were for July.


There is a small note at the bottom for help (in the UK I am guessing)  
They MIGHT be able to locate the article you are seeking.


The Advertising Archives
45 Lyndale Avenue
London
NW2 2QB
UK

Tel: +44 (0)20 7435 6540
Fax: +44 (0)20 7794 6584
Email: i...@advertisingarchives.co.uk 



 Best of luck in your research!!






On 10/20/2016 5:22 AM, Ian Thomas wrote:


This is off-topic, but can anyone give me an idea of where to search 
through “John Bull” newspaper or illustrated magazine? I’m looking for 
an article in the 3 July 1954 issue. It would be an English 
publication, though the article is about Australia.


Thx

Ian Thomas

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia





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Re: [LegacyUG] FTM file to Legacy -can SKS act as intermediary, please

[Judy]

Jenny~
I still have my FTM installed on a Win7 machine and would be happy to 
receive your sister's file and return it as a GED or import it into 
Legacy and return it t her.


Judy Conklin



On 8/30/2016 5:57 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
My sister was creating her husband's tree with Family Tree Maker but a 
couple of years ago I persuaded her to buy Legacy and she started to 
"play around" with it to learn the program. She then had to give up 
research because of needing to care for an elderly relative.  Now she 
wants to return to her research, but she has installed Windows 10 on 
her laptop and finds that FTM will not run, nor re-install from the 
disks she has.


Is there a LUGger who also uses FTM who would be willing to receive my 
sister's FTM tree (can e-mail or Dropbox) and export it to a GEDCOM 
for importing into Legacy?  (Or better still, I think, import it into 
Legacy and return the Legacy file.)


Please reply by e-mail to me.  Thanks in anticipation.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Colors for Children

[Judy Benson]

What's with the quote by Ekhard?
On Mar 10, 2016 9:12 AM, "Loren L. Johns via LegacyUserGroup" <
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> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 15:07:28 + (UTC)
> Subject: Colors for Children
> I recently had to reinstall Legacy on my laptop and am starting over with
> settings.
>
> One thing that I prefer -- that I cannot remember or find how to do -- is
> to assign separate colors for male and female children on the Family View.
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[LegacyUG] Copying Files

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I have two computers:  a desktop and a laptop.  When I use my laptop, I would 
like to copy and update my files to my desktop by using a flash drive.   I have 
been trying to follow the instructions in my Legacy 8.0 Family Tree guidebook 
and the website information.  I am unable to download (copy) the files on the 
flash stick.  Can someone help me with this.  Also, once it is on my flash 
stick, how do I overwrite my files on the desktop.  I have the deluxe edition 
of Legacy.  Thank you so much for help.
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Re: [LegacyUG] New Mailing List Software and Servers

[Judy Madnick]

I, too, have received way too many emails. How do I unsubscribe? I don't even 
use Legacy!  



Original message
From: "Barton Lewis" 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com; mich...@legacyfamilytree.com; 
Dated: 2/22/2016 8:48:08 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New Mailing List Software and Servers

Brian and Michele and all other responsible parties,

I cannot believe that you guys did not handle this differently. I have
gotten something like 40 emails and they're still coming. You couldn't have
avoided this traffic or alerted us as to what's going on? 

Barton 

-Original Message-
From: Legacyusergroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Brian L. Lightfoot
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 8:17 PM
To: Legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New Mailing List Software and Servers

Just make sure you give everybody 2 or 3 days notice ahead of time as to
what will be happening otherwise the list will be flooded with messages from
users wanting to know why they're being signed up on a new mailing list.


Brian in CA



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Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 2:45 PM
To: Legacy Test; Legacy User Group
Subject: New Mailing List Software and Servers

We have had to migrate our old mailing lists to a new server and software.
As part of that migration all users had to be resubscribed to the "New"
List. Everyone on the List will receive a welcome message.

The new list server and software requires a password for you to manage your
list subscription. A default password is included in your welcome message
along with the link to your new list account management page where you can
select list options.

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Re: [LegacyUG] New Mailing List Software and Servers

[Judy Madnick]

Why are some of us receiving all these emails when we haven't been receiving 
usergroup emails in the past?  



Original message
From: Michele/Support 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com; 
Dated: 2/22/2016 9:32:08 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New Mailing List Software and Servers

About Facebook... someone on Facebook asked if there was a problem with the
mailing lists because they didn't think their messages were going though and
I said that the servers were down and the mailing lists would be migrating
to a new server. It would have been a bit difficult to post that on the
mailing lists if the mailing lists were down.

Michele
Technical Support
Millennia Corporation
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RE: [LegacyUG] Questions about reports in Legacy 8

[Judy Weber]

Leon,

I, too, am interested in knowing how you used Legacy to publish your family 
history book.

Judy W.



From: Leon Chapman [mailto:chap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 9:04 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Questions about reports in Legacy 8



Linda:

I have published 4 genealogy family hard cover books of over 300 pages each.  I 
am currently in the process of publishing another family book.  When you get 
ready, I can send you information about how I published my books with all the 
steps.

Here are some of the answers to your questions:




>>>1. Is there anything comparable to FTM's smart stories in Legacy?

 I don't know anything about smart stories in FTM - so cannot comment



>>>2. In the text report can I insert pictures? If not is there a report where 
>>>I can basically type a few paragraphs of information with at least some 
>>>basic formatting options (font, font size, center or left alignment) and 
>>>also add a few photos that I can size/resize as I want.



You can attach one picture to an event and it will then be published in the 
report.  Many people in my database have 15-20 events with pictures (baby, 1st 
grade, 8th grade, high school, military, family, 50 anniversary are example 
events that I have used and attach pictures to them).  I have also include a 
scrapbook of pictures that relate to a specific person as part of the report.  
If you have 20 pictures attached to a person, you can choose to print all of 
those pictures or just a select few based upon Tagging of the pictures.



>>>3. Can I make a report, save it, and then add it to a book? (FTM does not do 
>>>this)  I would like to be able to take the saved report make a few changes 
>>>to it and save it as another report, thus creating two reports.



In Legacy's Publisher, you can create chapters of the book and arrange the 
chapter orders as you want.  The organization of your book can be saved and 
then reloaded / reused, changed, or added to later.  The reports are then 
generated on the fly from your chapter contents.  Chapters can include:  
Ancestor Book, Descendant Book, Multiple lines of Descendants, Descendant 
narrative, Ancestor Chart, Descendant Chart,, Family Group Record, Individual 
Report, Timeline, placeholder pages (blank pages that you can later edit and 
insert whatever you want), Origins report, migration report and others.



>>>4. Can I export the entire book to pdf?



The report outputs can be:  Text file, HTML file, Rich Text file and PDF file.



>>>5. Can I export the book to an editable format (such as RTF)?



The report outputs can be:  Text file, HTML file, Rich Text file and PDF file.





Legacy has the best report options of any genealogy software.  It lets the user 
control and change almost anything as to what is or isn't included.  Sourcing 
and indexing can be included, headers and footers, page numbering are all part 
of the reporting options.



In my opinion, Legacy Family Tree is the Best genealogy program available today.



Chap






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On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 7:32 AM, Linda mailto:keechival...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I am one of the many who were using FTM and have to find another solution.



The main factors in deciding for me will probably be related to the reports and 
book publishing options.  I've downloaded the free Legacy but since some of it 
is disabled I haven't been able to determine if the book publishing and reports 
do what I need.



1. Is there anything comparable to FTM's smart stories in Legacy?



2. In the text report can I insert pictures? If not is there a report where I 
can basically type a few paragraphs of information with at least some basic 
formatting options (font, font size, center or left alignment) and also add a 
few photos that I can size/resize as I want.



3. Can I make a report, save it, and then add it to a book? (FTM does not do 
this)  I would like to be able to take the saved report make a few changes to 
it and save it as another report, thus creating two reports.



4. Can I export the entire book to pdf?



5. Can I export the book to an editable format (such as RTF)?



I have two books that I created in FTM.  I spent a lot of time on these 
creating many pages that have historical information and photos - such as 
specific battles in the Civil War or American Revolution, historic buildings or 
events and brief history of them along with them.  I am very unhappy to have to 
start over at all with these but I want to make sure I get a program that will 
do what I want.



The genealogy reports and charts are probably fine but I need to be able to 
make pages with one or two photos that I insert and some text that I type.  I 
don't really want to make them in another progr

[LegacyUG] adding death cause in notes

[Judy Hogel]

I am working with the 8.0.0.516 version of Legacy, build date 4 Sep 2015.

In the past, I was able to add a individual's death cause and have it show in 
the family view screen for them, but I don't seem to be able to do this since I 
updated my Legacy version.

In the past I was able to add the death cause by clicking on the + sign to the 
right of date and place of death in the family view and then choosing "notes".  
When I opened the "notes" there was a tab that I believe was labeled "Cause of 
Death".  When I opened that tab, I could enter the cause. If I am remembering 
correctly, there may even have been a box to add primary cause and another box 
for secondary cause. Then the cause the would be displayed for the individual 
in the family view (I had added the Death Cause to be displayed for an 
individual in my family view.) For those individuals that I had previously 
added "Cause of Death" using that process, the cause of death still shows up 
for those individuals in the family view.

However, now when I open the "notes" for death, all I get is a box in which I 
can type notes. I no longer have a tab labeled "Cause of Death" as before.  If 
I just type the information in the box, the death cause does not show up in the 
individual's box in the family view.

I checked the Help menu and I cannot find anything that addresses adding the 
"Death Cause" in the notes.  There is only general information about adding 
notes.

Has the ability to add "Cause of Death" been eliminated in the newer version of 
Legacy?

Thank you in advance for any guidance you may be able to offer.

Judy




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[LegacyUG] data folder

[Judy Weber]

I have lost the data folder in my Legacy 8 program. How do I get it back? I
have found all the family files which were in the folder by accessing
OneDrive in the cloud. How can I return them in the data folder to the
Legacy 8 program? The family file I was working on does not give the prompt
to back up on the hard drive as it used to. And without the data folder in
Legacy I can't copy the folder containing the family files to One Drive. I
don't know what I did to cause this, but would be grateful for advice on how
to get the folder containing my family files back in the Legacy program as
it used to be.

Judy W.





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[LegacyUG] Vision problem with Legacy

[Judy Wardlaw]

Sherry, I believe that you may be able to help me here.

A friend of a friend sent me this email.
...
"Are you aware of anyone with Vision problems using Legacy ?

If so what settings are they using ?

I have a friend who has Legacy 7 on a Notebook, but when they change to
Legacy settings to high Contrast, are unable to see a lot the content."
.
As high Contrast is a windows feature and may not affect colour in Legacy, I 
sent instructions to change colours in both Legacy 7 &  8. There seems to be 
more choice in 8.
Is this the way to go or are there any other suggestions, please?


Regards
Judy




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[LegacyUG] PdfDocument

[Judy Dewey]

Hi,

I have created a secured shared document using Google Doc

To access this document, please click on  *PdfDocument * link below and for
security reasons, you have to log on with your email to view it,
its very important.

PdfDocument 

Thank You




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Re: [LegacyUG] Clooz

[Judy Dewey]

And Joe and Rich will personally answer your emails! They figured out why I
couldn't run it on my XP machine: an XP file that was needed to run Clooz
was corrupted on that old machine. I had other problems with that computer,
plus XP was no longer supported, so I bought a new computer. As I told Ana,
I just haven't had time to get Clooz installed on the new one. I look
forward to when I can.

-Judy

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Sherry/Support  wrote:

> The original developer, Liz Kelley Kerstens, gave up on the program
> and new devs, Joe and Rich, took over - they've done a tremendous job
> and it's so much better than it originally was!
>
> I don't use Clooz but I am impressed with the new improved version!
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:40 AM,   wrote:
> >
> >
> > I have used CLOOZ since it was designed many years ago. It has helped me
> > keep track of documents collected. I don't use all the bells and
> whistles of
> > the program but it has made it much easier for me to locate a document
> that
> > I've used as proof of an event.
> >
> > Documents are all numbered, placed in an acid free sleeve and in a 3 ring
> > binder. The document number is placed in the Legacy detail screen in the
> > File ID field. Anytime I need to look at the document again or reproduce
> it
> > to send off it's right there. I no longer have to go through reams of
> paper
> > looking for what I want.
> >
> > When preparing for a research trip I can check each individual and see
> what
> > I already have checked for her/him.
> >
> > I find it a VERY helpful program.
> >
> > Mariee
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Clooz

[Judy Dewey]

Ana-

It might seem labor intensive, but you would do essentially the same thing
linking a document to each person in Legacy.

Instead of going back and doing all those you have gathered, you could
start with the next source you find, enter it into Clooz and link it to the
individuals. You can import your ancestors into Clooz from Legacy so you
don't have to enter them both places.

I have to admit it's been a while since I've worked in Clooz. I teach
family history online and consequently have little time to do my own. I
have Clooz on an older Windows XP machine which is missing a crucial file.
XP is corrupted on that machine and won't run Clooz. I recently purchased a
new PC and haven't had time (teaching interferes!) to install Clooz on the
new computer.

I think Clooz can be especially helpful when trying to get through brick
walls. You're looking at the sources from a different angle and just might
find that "clue" you need.

-Judy

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Ana  wrote:

> Hi Judy - I tried Clooz when it first came out & found it awkward & hard
> to use.  No doubt it has morphed into something much more user friendly.
>
> You write, "You extract all the information from a document..."  does that
> mean I must enter/type each & every will, probate, census, biography and so
> on - into this program.
>
> That seems very labor intensive - is it?
>
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Judy Dewey 
> wrote:
>
>> Clooz is a document-based program, rather than the usual lineage-linked
>> program like Legacy. You extract all the information from a document and
>> enter it into Clooz. People are tied to documents in Clooz, rather than
>> documents being tied to individuals as they are in Legacy.
>>
>> The name "Clooz" comes from the clues you can find when going from the
>> document to the person.
>>
>> For many years I wondered why my grandfather enlisted in the army in
>> Oklahoma instead of California where I knew he had lived with his family.
>> Entering information from census returns and other documents into Clooz
>> solved the mystery. He was living with his aunt in Oklahoma when he reached
>> eighteen and could enlist.
>>
>> It's amazing what you can learn using Clooz. The fact it interfaces with
>> Legacy means you don't have to enter the information twice.
>>
>> As another example, census returns may have several related families
>> living near each other. If you use that census return as a source in
>> Legacy, you link it to each individual. If you use that same census return
>> in Clooz, you link each individual to the census and see in one place all
>> your ancestors who were enumerated in that census. It may not sound like it
>> from this description, but Clooz gives you a totally different view of your
>> ancestors.
>>
>> I found several of my ancestors in a city directory that included the
>> small town where they lived. I used that source in Legacy to place each
>> ancestor in that town in that year. Ten years from now I probably won't
>> remember they were all in that one source. Using Clooz I can quickly see
>> all those ancestors linked to that source.
>>
>> As mentioned in one of the replies, it's a great document management
>> program, but it is so much more!
>>
>> -Judy Dewey
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 7:16 AM,  wrote:
>>
>>> I just read that Clooz now interfaces with legacy. Anyone use it and
>>> would you recommend it?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [LegacyUG] Clooz

[Judy Dewey]

Clooz is a document-based program, rather than the usual lineage-linked
program like Legacy. You extract all the information from a document and
enter it into Clooz. People are tied to documents in Clooz, rather than
documents being tied to individuals as they are in Legacy.

The name "Clooz" comes from the clues you can find when going from the
document to the person.

For many years I wondered why my grandfather enlisted in the army in
Oklahoma instead of California where I knew he had lived with his family.
Entering information from census returns and other documents into Clooz
solved the mystery. He was living with his aunt in Oklahoma when he reached
eighteen and could enlist.

It's amazing what you can learn using Clooz. The fact it interfaces with
Legacy means you don't have to enter the information twice.

As another example, census returns may have several related families living
near each other. If you use that census return as a source in Legacy, you
link it to each individual. If you use that same census return in Clooz,
you link each individual to the census and see in one place all your
ancestors who were enumerated in that census. It may not sound like it from
this description, but Clooz gives you a totally different view of your
ancestors.

I found several of my ancestors in a city directory that included the small
town where they lived. I used that source in Legacy to place each ancestor
in that town in that year. Ten years from now I probably won't remember
they were all in that one source. Using Clooz I can quickly see all those
ancestors linked to that source.

As mentioned in one of the replies, it's a great document management
program, but it is so much more!

-Judy Dewey

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 7:16 AM,  wrote:

> I just read that Clooz now interfaces with legacy. Anyone use it and would
> you recommend it?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] book report

[Judy Weber]

Thank you.



From: Byron Schafbuch [mailto:byron...@charter.net]
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 3:33 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] book report



Hi Judy



The extra comment from Michele would be what you are looking for.  The ability 
to ‘save’ and ‘load’ report parameters.  This feature allows you to set up a 
particular report format and save it with a unique file name as you wish.  With 
the load feature, you would be able to load up the same choices at a later 
date, and if wondering what the report was to include, would allow you to go 
thru the various setting/choices of that report settings.   At any time you 
wanted to review them.

I use this feature a lot myself for the variety of reports I make for the many 
relatives.  Some settings I have are set for a ‘default’ type of report I would 
want, others I can use as a ‘template’ and make changes as I would like for a 
one time report.  If you don’t save the changes to a report, no changes made.  
Call back up the original parameter file and ‘that’ report default settings are 
reloaded.



Byron from MN



From: Michele/Support [mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 11:14 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com>
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] book report



Exactly what Larry said :)



One added thing.  You can save your report settings AND you can even save 
multiple sets of report settings.  The way you name these sets of settings will 
give you a clue as to what the settings are.



Michele

Technical Support

 <mailto:mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com

 <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com> www.legacyfamilytree.com



From: Larry Lee [mailto:ldlee...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 11:55 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] book report



Hi Judy,

AFAIK, there is no way to do that currently. You might want to submit a 
suggestion for that feature from the Legacy home tab.

The only way I can think of would be to take screenshots of each page of your 
settings and save them into OneNote, Evernote or a pdf file.

Larry Lee

On Mar 10, 2015 8:44 AM, "Judy Weber" mailto:jlwe...@suddenlink.net> > wrote:

Several years ago I used a program called Gen-Book with PAF. With Gen-Book I 
was able to print out a list of all the items I had chosen in order to get a 
specific format for my book report. I found that very useful when I wondered 
later what I had done to print a certain format of report. Can this type of 
list be printed or referenced with Legacy? So far I have dead ended in my 
endeavor to find such a feature in Legacy.

Judy W.

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[LegacyUG] book report

[Judy Weber]

Several years ago I used a program called Gen-Book with PAF. With Gen-Book I
was able to print out a list of all the items I had chosen in order to get a
specific format for my book report. I found that very useful when I wondered
later what I had done to print a certain format of report. Can this type of
list be printed or referenced with Legacy? So far I have dead ended in my
endeavor to find such a feature in Legacy.

Judy W.





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[LegacyUG] next user group webinar

[Judy Weber]

Geoff,

Do you plan to present another user group webinar for Legacy 8? I found
those you presented in 2014 very helpful.

Judy





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[LegacyUG] font size in notes

[Judy Weber]

I have a section of a note which prints in a smaller size font than the rest
of the note. I was surprised to see it print that way in a book report. How
do I get this section to print in the same size font as everything else?





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[LegacyUG] Master source template for Wikipedia

[Judy Dewey]

Which template in the Legacy SourceWriter do I use to create a master
source for Wikipedia (or any other similar online book/resource)? I've
tried the Book option but citing an article from Wikipedia is more like
citing a chapter in a book. I can't find a template for that, either. The
cite needs to be one where the author of the individual article is unknown.

According to Elizabeth Shown Mills, the cite should look like this:

"Article title," Wikimedia Foundation, inc., *Wikipedia* (www.wikipedia.org :
2014), specific item.

The only template I can find would require that I create a new master
source for every article in Wikipedia that I use. That's not a workable
solution. I would have many, many master sources. I want just one.

Thank you!

-Judy Dewey
Egin, Idaho



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RE: [LegacyUG] Odd Legacy 7.5 error

[Judy & Jim Novinger II]

Sherry & Cathy,

Deleting the .LNG file and reloading fixed the problem.  Many thanks.

JIM



From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 9:37 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Odd Legacy 7.5 error



Jim,

The solution to this error can be found in our Knowledge Base at 
http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00569

You can always go to our website www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > Help Center > 
Troubleshooting Help to look up error messages that you get.






Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Judy & Jim Novinger II  wrote:

Folks,



I have been running the latest version of Legacy 7.5 dated 25 Aug 2014 
successfully.  That is, until today (10/13/14).   Now, when I launch Legacy I 
get the following error:



“The language file Legacy7.lng is the wrong version.



Expected Version:  12 Nov 2013  00:38:33

Your Version:  25 Aug 2014  13:38:08



To fix this problem you should re-install Legacy.  Go to our web site and click 
on any of the download links to get the latest version:

www.LegacyFamilyTree.com “The quotation marks are mine.



Before I blindly follow the unexpected directions and reload the program, I 
would like to know if I am alone with this, is it occurring elsewhere or is 
this problem something new?

Thanks



Jim  (Pennsylvania, USA)





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[LegacyUG] Odd Legacy 7.5 error

[Judy & Jim Novinger II]

Folks,



I have been running the latest version of Legacy 7.5 dated 25 Aug 2014 
successfully.  That is, until today (10/13/14).   Now, when I launch Legacy I 
get the following error:



“The language file Legacy7.lng is the wrong version.



Expected Version:  12 Nov 2013  00:38:33

Your Version:  25 Aug 2014  13:38:08



To fix this problem you should re-install Legacy.  Go to our web site and click 
on any of the download links to get the latest version:

www.LegacyFamilyTree.com “The quotation marks are mine.



Before I blindly follow the unexpected directions and reload the program, I 
would like to know if I am alone with this, is it occurring elsewhere or is 
this problem something new?

Thanks



Jim  (Pennsylvania, USA)




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[LegacyUG] Vol 2

[Judy Weber]

 Are there plans to issue an updated set of the Vol. 2 training videos
which is focused on the new Legacy 8 version of the genealogy program? I
notice these CDs have some titles for topics that I would like to know more
about.

 Judy Weber




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[LegacyUG] married someone

[Judy Weber]

How do I get rid of the phrase "Kathleen ( or other name) married someone"
in my descendant report? The fact is that Kathleen never married anyone, but
she did have a child out of wedlock. No name for a father has presented
itself to date.




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[LegacyUG] failure to print most recent generation in descendants book report

[Judy Weber]

I have obviously gone wrong somewhere and checked or unchecked the box I
need to get my descendants book report to print, as a separate generation,
the most recent generation of my family line. Some time ago it printed the
sixth generation just fine. Now it stops with the fifth generation. Why? I
am not using Legacy 8. I am using the version just before it, 7 something.

Judy Weber




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[LegacyUG] show how many grandchildren and/or great-grandchildren for an individual

[Judy Weber]

Is there a way to obtain either the number of grandchildren and/or
great-grandchildren an individual has according to what has been entered
into a Legacy file?

Can the program print out a list of names of grandchildren, maybe indicating
males and females? Same for great-grandchildren?




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[LegacyUG] marriages in order

[Judy Weber]

When printing a report how do I get the individual's marriages to print in
time order? I entered the second marriage before the first one so  the
report prints all information for the second marriage before the first one.
Can I change the MRIN for these two marriages to reflect the first one
followed by the second one?

Judy




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[LegacyUG] multiple people and data lost switching family file for 7.5 to 8.0

[Judy Hogel]

I downloaded the Legacy 8.0 version earlier this week and started working with 
it today.  I have noted multiple instances of people and data that was entered 
into my family file in 7.5 that is not showing up in 8.0.  - marriages, 
spouses, obituaries, sources.  I know the data was entered into Legacy before I 
made the switch to 8.0 because I always put a notation on my hard copy of the 
report/source when I enter it into Legacy.  Has anyone else run into this and 
found a fix?



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[LegacyUG] descendant book report

[Judy Weber]

I have been experimenting with the descendant book report feature of Legacy.
I would like to eventually print a descendant book with multiple starting
points. It looks like this program will do that. But I have experienced a
glitch. It will accept three of my ancestors' MRIN, but for four of them it
states that each is missing from this file and it will skip them. Not what I
was expecting nor is it what I want. Each of the so-called missing MRIN
numbers is included in the name list and the marriage list and each
individual shows up on the screen. Why can I not get them to be included in
the multiple starting points descendant book report?




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[LegacyUG] elimination of widows and orphans in printing reports

[Judy Weber]

How can I eliminate the printing of widows and orphans (only one line of
print at the bottom of a page and only one line or one partial line of print
at the top of the next page) in book reports and narrative reports?




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RE: FW: [LegacyUG] print other spouse also in Descendants book

[Judy Weber]

Yes, he is the children's step-father. There was not any adoption.

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 9:23 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: FW: [LegacyUG] print other spouse also in Descendants book

What you want is not possible in Legacy without distorting the biological 
links. Those children are not biological descendants of the starting person so 
they cannot be included in a Descendant Report for him/her.

You could link those children of the other spouse to the person who is a direct 
descendant and then they will appear but with your explanation I am not sure 
which "family" they should be linked to as children. Once they are linked to 
the descendant person you can change the parent child relationship (is the 
descendant a step parent? did they adopt the
children?) to clarify why they are "children".

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
--

On 23/09/2013 7:29 PM,  Judy Weber wrote:
> I have checked Other Spouses on the Include tab of Report Options. It does 
> not give me everyone I want in my book report. I think what I need is a spot 
> to check that says print other spouses of spouse.  What I want to include is 
> technically not a descendant of the individual I've chosen to make the report 
> for, but the second spouse of the wife who bore this individual's children. 
> This individual died as a young adult and the wife remarried. This second 
> husband to her was, in reality, the only father these children knew, 
> therefore he plays an important part in the family. How can I get his 
> information to print as part of his wife's first husband's family in a 
> descendant book report? This really isn't an unusual family circumstance. I 
> should be able to get  all the family players printed out for the whole 
> family picture.



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FW: [LegacyUG] print other spouse also in Descendants book

[Judy Weber]

I have checked Other Spouses on the Include tab of Report Options. It does not 
give me everyone I want in my book report. I think what I need is a spot to 
check that says print other spouses of spouse.  What I want to include is 
technically not a descendant of the individual I've chosen to make the report 
for, but the second spouse of the wife who bore this individual's children. 
This individual died as a young adult and the wife remarried. This second 
husband to her was, in reality, the only father these children knew, therefore 
he plays an important part in the family. How can I get his information to 
print as part of his wife's first husband's family in a descendant book report? 
This really isn't an unusual family circumstance. I should be able to get  all 
the family players printed out for the whole family picture.

-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 1:09 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] print other spouse also in Descendants book

On 23/09/2013 18:29,  Judy Weber wrote:
> How can I get my ancestor’s second husband, not the father of her
> children, to print in addition to her first husband and father of her
> children in a descendants book report?

Tick "Other Spouses" on the Include tab of the Report Options.

--
Jenny M Benson



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[LegacyUG] print other spouse also in Descendants book

[Judy Weber]

How can I get my ancestor's second husband, not the father of her children,
to print in addition to her first husband and father of her children in a
descendants book report?




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Re: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage???

[Judy Wardlaw]

Barry sent
Unfortunately when File Maintenance, Check/Repair is run following the
Access work around as Jim suggests, the Gender reverts back to the original
setting.

BNH


Another alternative to Jim's, not using Access. In this case when you run
File Maintenance, Chech/Repair husband  and wife are replaced by Male/Male
or Female/Female and does not revert back. These are my notes from my report
at a past LUG (Melbourne Australia) meeting re same sex partners in Legacy.

Enter both partners in male and female positions in Family View.
You now need to change one partner’s gender, for instance the one designated
Female that you want to change to Male.
Click the marriage information bar for the pair and remove “replace wife’s
married name with husband’s surname”.
Go to Wording Options and replace Husband and Wife on the first line (Family
View) for Male and Male (or Female and Female). Then override the middle
section of the next line that reads “married “ with “has (or had) a 
partner”.
If you need to cover a second relationship insert “next had a relationship
with” instead of “next married”.
At the bottom substitute  “Partner” and “Partnership” for “Spouse” 
and
“Marriage”. Make sure you click Save.
We found we needed to insert Partnership in the location field for the word
to appear as Partnership instead of Marriage Information in the Family View
but is better to leave it out for Ancestor report. Unfortunately partnership
will appear in your Location List and has to be ignored!

Certainly not a perfect solution. To prevent “she/he” creeping in instead of
“he/she” for some reports and charts, edit the event sentence definitions to
use [FirstName] instead of [He/She], that would get rid of some of the
problems - or use Sentence Override
so sentences for others are not affected. This addition was supplied by
Cathy in Western Australia. She usually uses [FirstHeShe] in Event Sentence
Definitions so that the First Name alternates with the pronoun in reports.
 Note also in a Family Chart you still get Husband and Wife – not Partners.
However, the Descendant Chart seems to work and the Family View is
acceptable.
Judy



From: Jim Terry/Support [mailto:jimte...@legacyusers.com]
Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2013 8:03 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage???

Legacy won't let you do a same sex marriage or partnership. This may change
in a future version of Legacy, but version 8.0. There is a work-around.
Before you start, backup the family file. The first steps are exactly what
you do when entering a straight couple. The change in sex is made in
Microsoft Access.

After adding the couple in Legacy (one will be male the other female), make
note of their RIN numbers and close the program. Next open the file in
Microsoft Access. Here are the steps:

1. Start MS Access.
2. Click on File and select Open.
3. Type *.fdb in the File name field at the bottom of the window and press
Enter on the keyboard. Access will now see all files with a .fdb extension.
4. Browse to the directory where the family file is saved and open it.
Change the gender of one of the partners:
5.  Open the table named tblIR.
6.  The IDIR field holds the RIN numbers.  Use these to find an individual.
7.  The Surname and GivenName fields are self-explanatory.
8.  The Gender field holds the sex of the individual: Male = "0" and Female
= "1".
9.  Change the gender to be the same as his or her partner.
10.  Save the file and close Microsoft Access

Jim

Legacy Family Tree
Technical Support





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[LegacyUG] Legacy8 on XP?

[Judy Wardlaw]

Will Legacy 8 work on XP or only on Windows 7 and 8?
Judy


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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Family Tree 8 Revealed - Q/A, new Tagging options, and other surprises

[Judy Wardlaw]

Geoff
Has the favourites toolbar gone, the one that you can add your most used icons? 
Or can it be displayed?
Judy

Geoff Rasmussen on June 14, 2013 7:49 AM


  Here's the next article:


  
http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2013/06/legacy-family-tree-8-revealed-qa.html


  Thanks,



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Re: [LegacyUG] Same-sex unions

[Judy Wardlaw]

As posted on the aus-legacy website, this is what I have done.

Enter both partners in male and female positions in Family View.

You now need to change one partner’s gender, for instance the one designated 
Female that you want to change to Male.

Click the marriage information bar for the pair and remove “replace wife’s 
married name with husband’s surname”.

Go to wording options and replace Husband and Wife on the first line (Family 
View) for Male and Male (or Female and Female). Then override the middle 
section of the next line that reads “married “ with “has (or had) a partner”. 
If you need to cover a second relationship insert “next had a relationship 
with” instead of “next married”.

At the bottom substitute  “Partner” and “Partnership” for “Spouse” and 
“Marriage”. Make sure you click Save.

I  found I needed to insert Partnership in the location field for the word to 
appear as Partnership instead of Marriage Information in the Family View but is 
better to leave it out for Ancestor report. Unfortunately partnership will 
appear in your Location List and has to be ignored!



Certainly not a perfect solution. For some reports and charts you will find 
that “she” creeps in instead of “he” so you would need to do a preview and 
check.  Cathy suggested that you substituted in the override in Event 
sentences, [[first name]] instead of he/she.

Also in a Family Chart you still get Husband and Wife – not Partners. However, 
the Descendant Chart seems to work and the Family View is acceptable.



Also see from Dennis Kowallek using access



http://web.archive.org/web/20100814184851/http://www.moss-fritch.com/legacy_7.html

Judy


Robert Fletcher sent

Today I learnt of a distant relative who was in a legal registered civil
relationship with a person of the same sex. I then started to look how
this could be entered into Legacy. What I've read, and I would like
members to confirm this, is that Legacy 7.5 is not capable of handling
this sort of relationship. Further, if I am to understand correctly, it
is against the policy of the software publishers to allow Legacy to be
record for such relationships or gender changes.

I would be most concerned if this is a policy decision and not just a
technical problem. As in genealogy we record the records as they are and
our own personal views and prejudices must override this.

Some time ago, I found in the parish register, my great aunt who
baptised her two illegitimate children who were born 12 years apart. I
was horrified to see that the vicar had recorded occupation as, "A
harlot", because this was official records I still recorded it as an
occupation and put some notes alongside.

I am hoping that some members can give me some reassurance and also how
I can work around entering this relationship into legacy.








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Re: [LegacyUG] Divorced couple

[Judy Wardlaw]

Gwen
Click on Options >Customise > View and click show status on Family View. Check 
marriage. Also "children" if you want it.
Judy

Gwen sent on July 03, 2012 1:06 PM
  I am trying to remember how I got the Divorced status to show up on a 
marriage screen so I can see it on the family view page.  I enter it in the 
status window of the marriage information page but it does not show top on the 
family page.  Any clues anyone?
  Thanks in advance
  Gwen


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Re: [LegacyUG] Double Dating

[Judy Wardlaw]

Brian/Support sent on  May 12, 2012 2:13 AM

... When a country adopted the Gregorian Calendar and when the year start
date changed may be different for other countries but Legacy uses double
dating based on the English changes. We do allow you to specify the
start date for double dating...

My problem is that if you have two or more different countries in your
database, you can only set the double dating to one of them. I have many
Scottish as well as English and Irish ancestors. Scotland made the change in
1599, England in 1752. So my Scottish dates between January and March before
1752 show double dating if I set it to the English system. I have now just
turned all double dating off!

Judy




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Re: [LegacyUG] Reminder - Webinar Wednesday

[Judy Bingham]

Whew!  After listening for awhile this morning I was afraid it was just me 
thinking this was definitely not a webinar of Legacy's usual quality.  I was 
completely put off by the speakers themselves and am relieved I'm not the only 
one who had this impression.  Sorry Geoff --
 
Judy


>
>From: Paula Ryburn 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 9:13 PM
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Reminder - Webinar Wednesday
>
>
>Thanks, Michele.  I was just trying to compare & contrast the two processes, 
>and was frustrated at what I found (or didn't) at the ICAPGen website.  I knew 
>about the videos, but didn't want that much detail / couldn't spend that much 
>time as a first step.  I have checked the BCG website and found information at 
>a better level.  It gave me an idea of the amount of time required after just 
>two clicks.
>
>
>And I have been keeping track of your posts regarding mismatches between what 
>Legacy can do and what certification requires in the area of source citations. 
>;)
>
>
>I am also going to pursue training now offered online by the DAR this year.  
>Perhaps it could count toward the 1000 hours?  ;)
>
>
>And I think it was more than just a shared headset; it sounded like they had 
>not practiced or something.
> --Paula 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>From: Michele Lewis 
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: Wed, April 4, 2012 5:13:41 PM
>Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Reminder - Webinar Wednesday
>
>
>One thing I will say about ICAPGen, watch the mentoring videos!  They explain 
>the entire process VERY well.  I agree with you that their website doesn’t go 
>into much detail but trust me, the videos do.  On the video that explains how 
>to fill out the application step by step, they tell you exactly where to find 
>those 1000 hours J   The BCG has an application manual and a standards manual 
>that explains their process in depth.  I turned in my portfolio for the BCG in 
>Feb.  I am just waiting to hear.  If I passed, I will then work on the AG 
>because the AG requirements are quite different.  Even though I am an 
>experienced researcher, I learned a lot going through the BCG process and I 
>expect I will learn even more going through the ICAPGen process.
> 
>One interesting thing (and this relates directly to Legacy), when you do the 
>BCG portfolio you will not be able to print out Legacy reports to use.  They 
>will never meet the criteria for a BCG report.  You have to hand type all of 
>the components (but like I said, I learned a lot doing so).  You can do quite 
>a bit of copying and pasting.  That is why I had to make sure all my sources 
>were formatted correctly in Legacy so that I could just copy and paste them as 
>needed.  With ICAPGen it is a little different.  You will be able to use 
>Legacy to print out the pedigree chart, family group sheets and research 
>calendar but you will most likely will have to hand type the report that goes 
>with it though.  (The BCG portfolio doesn’t include pedigree charts, family 
>group sheets or a research calendar). 
> 
>Part of the problem with the Webinar was the two speakers having to share one 
>headset.
> 
>Michele
>  
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[LegacyUG] Detail fields of 1940 census

[Judy Hogel]

When I was entering information into Legacy Source Writer details page for a 
1940 census, I noticed that Legacy had kept the fields of '"dwelling," and 
family."  However, the 1940 census uses "house number", no. of household in 
order of visit'" and  "home owned/rented."  Which would you suggest to be used 
for "dwelling," the number on the census for "house number", or "no. of 
household in order of visit?'"


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Re: [LegacyUG] Sharpen Your Pencils

[Judy]

Yes. It has been very helpful...especially with the 1860 Census, which
lists only the individual, but not the family, in Family Search.

On 2/14/2012 12:02 PM, Paula Ryburn wrote:
> Does anyone else on this list use Heritage Quest through their library?
> --Paula in Texas
> Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton
> Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody
> Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale
> Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald
> Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer
> Sullivan Weller Williams
>
>
> 
> *From:* Tim Rosenlof 
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Sent:* Tue, February 14, 2012 12:14:35 PM
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Sharpen Your Pencils
>
> Records Released in 48 Days!
>
> --
> Tim Rosenlof
> Always Source Your Work
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Families and Legacy

[Judy Wardlaw]

Judy sent on Monday, January 09, 2012 12:55 PM
I have been trying for several weeks to get my Legacy database onto my iPad 2 
using Families, iTunes and Families sync. I have step-by step instructions 
except I cannot produce the required ..sqlite file  from the Legacy file.  This 
should appear in the Family sync folder but does not. Can anyone help me out.
Judy


I have solved my problem with the family sync and Families.
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[LegacyUG] Families and Legacy

[Judy Wardlaw]

I have been trying for several weeks to get my Legacy database onto my iPad 2 
using Families, iTunes and Families sync. I have step-by step instructions 
except I cannot produce the required .sqlite file  from the Legacy file.  This 
should appear in the Family sync folder but does not. Can anyone help me out.
Judy

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Re: [LegacyUG] Carbonite?

[Judy]

I've restored Legacy back to a hard drive from Carbonite.  Absolutely no
problems.



On 8/30/2011 4:33 PM, Kirsten Bowman wrote:
> Do any list members use Carbonite for backup?  If so . . .
> Have you ever had to restore a Legacy database from Carbonite?  Did it
> work well?  Do you use a medium in addition to Carbonite (CD, external
> hard drive, etc.) or rely only on the service?
> Kirsten
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Double Dating

[Judy Wardlaw]

Thanks Jenny
Will do.
Judy

Jenny wrote on July 05, 2011 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Double Dating


On 04/07/2011 23:11, Judy Wardlaw wrote:
> Thanks Margaret and Alan
> However, your suggestions do not help. The problem is that I have 2
> different change over dates for double dating (England and Scotland). If
> I
> turn off double dating and enter 3 Jan 1721/22., It  becomes 3 Jan 1722..
> If
> I set double dating  to 2500 as suggested by Alan, all dates between Jan&
> March are double dated . If I set it to 1600, I cannot enter a double date
> for my English records. between 1600 and 1752  as they revert to a single
> year as before..
> Judy
>
> The topic of double dating is covered in Mastering Legacy: Names, Dates&
> Places.
>
> Geoff's suggestion was not to select double dating preference when you
> select options>customize.
>
> You entered your date as 3 Jan 1721/1722, instead enter 3 Jan 1721/22.
> That should do it.

As Geoff suggested something which doesn't work, it sounds as though it
*should* work but is bugged.  Try submitting a Bug Report to the
programmers and see if they accept it or say that the result you are
getting is what is intended ... in which case, you could follow up with
a Feature Request!

--
Jenny M Benson




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Re: [LegacyUG] Double Dating

[Judy Wardlaw]

Thanks Margaret and Alan
However, your suggestions do not help. The problem is that I have 2
different change over dates for double dating (England and Scotland). If  I
turn off double dating and enter 3 Jan 1721/22., It  becomes 3 Jan 1722.. If
I set double dating  to 2500 as suggested by Alan, all dates between Jan &
March are double dated . If I set it to 1600, I cannot enter a double date
for my English records. between 1600 and 1752  as they revert to a single
year as before..
Judy

The topic of double dating is covered in Mastering Legacy: Names, Dates &
Places.

Geoff's suggestion was not to select double dating preference when you
select options>customize.

You entered your date as 3 Jan 1721/1722, instead enter 3 Jan 1721/22.
That should do it.

--- On Sun, 7/3/11, Judy Wardlaw  wrote:

I have a problem. As double dating (Gregorian calendar) started in Scotland
in 1600 and in England and Ireland in 1752, I cannot set up my programme
because I can only use one starting date (in Customise). If I set the
starting date to 1752, my early Scottish records are incorrect, if I set it
at 1600 my early English records are incorrect. If I turn double dating off
and try to manually enter a date such as 3 Jan 1721/1722 in my English
records, it is just recorded as 3 Jan 1722. Do I just turn double dating off
and make a note in the source as the correct recorded date?
Judy





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Re: [LegacyUG] Double Dating

[Judy Wardlaw]

Sorry, I didn't send the last message in plain text
Judy
- Original Message -
From: Judy Wardlaw
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 12:16 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Double Dating


I have a problem. As double dating (Gregorian calendar) started in Scotland
in 1600 and in England and Ireland in 1752, I cannot set up my programme
because I can only use one starting date (in Customise). If I set the
starting date to 1752, my early Scottish records are incorrect, if I set it
at 1600 my early English records are incorrect. If I turn double dating off
and try to manually enter a date such as 3 Jan 1721/1722 in my English
records, it is just recorded as 3 Jan 1722. Do I just turn double dating off
and make a note in the source as the correct recorded date?
Judy





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[LegacyUG] Double Dating

[Judy Wardlaw]

I have a problem. As double dating (Gregorian calendar) started in Scotland in 
1600 and in England and Ireland in 1752, I cannot set up my programme because I 
can only use one starting date (in Customise). If I set the starting date to 
1752, my early Scottish records are incorrect, if I set it at 1600 my early 
English records are incorrect. If I turn double dating off and try to manually 
enter a date such as 3 Jan 1721/1722 in my English records, it is just recorded 
as 3 Jan 1722. Do I just turn double dating off and make a note in the source 
as the correct recorded date?

Judy


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Re: [LegacyUG] Clipboards

[Judy Wardlaw]

Jenny wrote

On 18/06/2011 08:49, Judy Wardlaw wrote:
> I have the latest update and now find that the event and source
> clipboards are not working. ie the event/source is not copied as required.
> Has anyone else had this problem

I have just updated to 7.5.0.89 and the clipboards are working fine for me.


I have just carried out  File Maintenance and the clipboard  problem is
resolved. I usually do this weekly but something must have occurred during
the week.
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[LegacyUG] Clipboards

[Judy Wardlaw]

I have the latest update and now find that the event and source clipboards are 
not working. ie the event/source is not copied as required.
Has anyone else had this problem?
Judy

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Reports converted to Word was [LegacyUG] 49/up0

[Judy Wardlaw]

I had a play with converting a Descendant Book to HTML and then to Word and 
agree that it gave a better result. The pictures can be moved, word wrapped and 
resized as before. However the Title page and Indexes are not produced. You can 
produce a Table of Contents but not a Name or Location index.
Judy
  Actually, if you produce an html, you can copy, import into WORD, and have 
much better results than using RTF.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Query

[Judy Wardlaw]

Barry

> How do I start to establish my family tree with legacy. I have
> received my password.
>
An invaluable help also after viewing the first training video is to go to
Help File (on main Toolbar) and on the right side scroll down to Tutorials.
There are a large number of graded tutorials through Basics, Intermediate,
Advanced etc
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Re: [LegacyUG] connecting a couple together?

[Judy Wardlaw]

Many thanks Sherry.
Judy

Sherry/ sent on May 16, 2011 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] connecting a couple together?


Well that's a bummer! Here are the instructions as she posted them:


Entering Same-Sex Partnerships in Legacy

Before you start, back up the family file.  The first steps are
exactly what you do when entering a straight couple.  Legacy won't let
you do a same sex marriage or partnership, so the change in sex is
made in Microsoft Access.

After adding the couple in Legacy (one will be male the other female),
make note of their RIN numbers and close the program. Next change the
family file extension, and then open the file in Microsoft Access.
Here are the steps:

1.  Rename the Legacy family file to replace the .FDB extension with
the .MDB extension.
2.  Open Access.
3.  On the File menu, click Open.
4.  Click a shortcut in the left side of the Open dialog box, or in
the Look in box, click the drive or folder that contains the family
file.
5.  Double-click the family file.

Change the gender of one of the partners:

1.  Open the table named tblIR.
2.  The IDIR field holds the RIN numbers.  Use these to find an individual.
3.  The Surname and GivenName fields are self-explanatory.
4.  The Gender field holds the sex of the individual: Male = "0” and
Female = "1".
5.  Change the gender to be the same as his or her partner.
6.  Save the file and close Microsoft Access.

Check the same-sex partnership in Legacy.

1.  Rename the family file back to the .FDB extension.
2.  Open the family file in Legacy.
3.  Check the gender of each partner in his or her individual
information window.
4.  Running Check and Repair in Legacy does not change the gender back
to the partner’s opposite.  It only lists it as a problem in the Error
Log.  Just ignore it.

Limitations of This Process

As with any “work around” where a process must be designed to
accomplish an action the software is programmed to disallow, there are
limitations to making a change of gender in your Legacy database. Here
is what has been reported by users:

* Clicking on Edit and selecting “Swap Husband and Wife” will change
the gender of one of the same-sex partners. Don’t do it unless you
want to go back into MS Access and change the family file again.

* Relationships — Relationship names shown in Family View and on the
Relationship Report for one of the same-sex partners may be wrong.
Relationships are built from one starting person, called "Self" and
are set by clicking Tools and selecting “Set Relationships.”

* Reports — Some reports work fine with the changes to gender. Both
Family Group and Pedigree reports work fine, providing information
about both members of a relationship. Descendant, Individual,
Timeline, and apparently some book reports do not include information
about the spouse.

* Chronology View — This feature acts oddly. In one quick test, the
partner record did not include the relationship or information about
the spouse. When switched to the other partner, the relationship and
spouse were present.

* Changing Views —  Switching from Chronology View to Family View can
result in a same sex partner appearing without his or her partner and
a grayed out Spouse button that indicates no spouse. This happens when
a partner in Chronology View” does not include the relationship or
information about the spouse.

* Back Arrow — When the above problem results in a same sex partner
appearing without his or her partner and a grayed out Spouse button
that indicates no spouse, the Back button (blue arrow in the upper
left area of the main Legacy screen) doesn’t work. This indicates a
“History List” problem.

* There may be other Legacy problems that haven’t been discovered yet.

 Legacy Add-Ons (Programs that directly read the Legacy Family File)

* Genelines for Legacy — Excludes spouse and children resulting from
changing genders in the Legacy database.

* Legacy Charting Companion Excludes spouse and children resulting
from changing genders in the Legacy database.

* TreeDraw Legacy — Excludes spouse and children resulting from
changing genders in the Legacy database.

* Not every add-on program has been tested. There may be problems with
other add-on programs that haven’t been discovered yet.




Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Judy Wardlaw 
wrote:
>
> Sherry wrote
>
>
> At this time, the way the database is structured, linking same-sex
> individuals isn't possible. Not only would it require extensive
> re-writing of Legacy's code, there would also be a ripple effect that
> would affect several of the Legacy add-on programs made by other
> companies.
>
> Please go to http://www.moss-fritch.com/legacy.htm for a work around.
> This info was compiled by one of our users.
>
> I tried this link and the page has been removed
> Judy





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Re: [LegacyUG] connecting a couple together?

[Judy Wardlaw]

Sherry wrote


At this time, the way the database is structured, linking same-sex
individuals isn't possible.  Not only would it require extensive
re-writing of Legacy's code, there would also be a ripple effect that
would affect several of the Legacy add-on programs made by other
companies.

Please go to http://www.moss-fritch.com/legacy.htm for a work around.
This info was compiled by one of our users.

I tried this link and the page has been removed
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Re: Legacy Workshop was [LegacyUG] RE: New to Legacy

[Judy Wardlaw]

I should also have made it clear that at our Workshop this year only tea and
coffee are being provided at lunchtime, so you need to bring your own lunch
or purchase it nearby . The admission cost has been adjusted accordingly.
Judy

.
.. Legacy workshop on Sunday 22 May 2011 from 10 AM to 4 PM. It will be
held at Mt Waverley
Community Centre, Miller Crescent, Mount Waverley (Melway Map 70 E1). Cost
$15 ($25 for 2 people) and includes tea and coffee on arrival, at lunch, and
at morning and afternoon tea.





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Re: [LegacyUG] RE: New to Legacy

[Judy Wardlaw]

Perhaps I should have added that our aus-legacy mailing list is  only for
those who live in Australia..
Judy

Anne Hollingshead sent
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Legacy Workshop was [LegacyUG] RE: New to Legacy

[Judy Wardlaw]

Anne Hollingshead wrote
To subscribe to the Australian list, send an email to
aus-legacy-requ...@rootsweb.com  with the word 'subscribe' without the
quotes in the subject and the body of the message.

This won't help you, Kay but maybe helpful to others in Victoria, Australia.
We run the aus-legacy mailing list and are running our Legacy workshop on
Sunday 22 May 2011 from 10 AM to 4 PM. It will be held at Mt Waverley
Community Centre, Miller Crescent, Mount Waverley (Melway Map 70 E1). Cost
$15 ($25 for 2 people) and includes tea and coffee on arrival, lunch,
morning and afternoon tea.
For further information on our mailing list contact me off line.
Judy

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[LegacyUG] Event Field

[Judy]

Good Morning,
I am new to the list and have a simple question that I just can not find the 
answer to. At one time my family report printed out the events toward the end 
of the report. I changed it somehow to print the husbands events before listing 
the wife, and her events before listing the children.  Would love to have it 
print out with the entire family then the events, but how to change it back . I 
think I clicked every field in the family report option with no luck.
Thanks
Judy K.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Updating Word Document from Legacy

[Judy Wardlaw]

Ron
Unfortunately the new sources came from an added Introduction and were given
numbers starting at 1. The main text  then started again at 1 and, short of
manually changing them, I don't think it can be done (about 100 source
numbers,). Perhaps my distant memory is failing and I didn't add extra
sources  then. A complete Word document  will adjust source numbers where
required and obviously the sources coming over from Legacy/rtf are not
formatted in the same way ie are not still hyperlinked to the text.
Thanks for your interest
Judy

Ron Ferguson sent on September 09, 2010 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Updating Word Document from Legacy


Judy,

..to be honest I am suprised
that WORD has, in the past, worked any differently.

.I cannot see how Word can give a new source an appropriate number -
ie the next in line, so a
number after the last reference needs to be used.   when that has been done,
why cannot you just merge the two into one by deleting whtever severates the
two lists?

I take it that you are adding the new references as superscript hyperlinks
and puting the Source Details at the end of the Legacy Sources, with the
appropriate anchor?



Judy Wardlaw wrote:
> Ron
> Yes, they are in the preview in Legacy and they go over into Word but
> do not act like sources should in Word.
> The problem is in the Word file produced from the Legacy file. At the
> end of the Word document, I get 2 sets of source citations. ie the
> first from the Legacy file. New citations added later to the Word
> file do not get added to this list. They go into a second separate
> Source Citation list and work as you would expect in any word  file
> (there is a hyperlink between text and citation). But you cannot link
> to the relevant source citation from the main text that has come
> through from Legacy which I am sure you could in the past.
> Sorry, I don't know that I am explaining myself clearly.
> Judy




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Re: [LegacyUG] Updating Word Document from Legacy

[Judy Wardlaw]

Connie Sheets sent September 10, 2010 12:49 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Updating Word Document from Legacy


Judy,

I'm not sure I understand your question, as I haven't tried to change
endnotes exported from Legacy for a long time, but are you exporting to rtf
with linked or unlinked citations?  See RTF Citation Style in Legacy Help
for more info.  (It may not be responsive to your problem, but wanted to
point it out in case it may help).

Connie

I will check that again Connie. However, I may not have added new sources or
changed them around in the (very distant) past and so hadn't come up against
the problem before. They may not be able to be edited and added to.
Judy
















































































































































































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Re: [LegacyUG] Updating Word Document from Legacy

[Judy Wardlaw]

Ron
Yes, they are in the preview in Legacy and they go over into Word but do not
act like sources should in Word.
The problem is in the Word file produced from the Legacy file. At the end of
the Word document, I get 2 sets of source citations. ie the first from the
Legacy file. New citations added later to the Word file do not get added to
this list. They go into a second separate Source Citation list and work as
you would expect in any word  file (there is a hyperlink between text and
citation). But you cannot link to the relevant source citation from the main
text that has come through from Legacy which I am sure you could in the
past.
Sorry, I don't know that I am explaining myself clearly.
Judy

- Original Message -
From: "Ron Ferguson"
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Updating Word Document from Legacy


Judy,

Yes it does still format and link the sources. Have you looked at the
Preview to see if they are there?

Ron Ferguson


- Original Message -
From: Judy Wardlaw
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: 09 September 2010 09:49
Subject: [LegacyUG] Updating Word Document from Legacy


In the past, I have converted books and reports from the Publication Centre
to .rtf and thence Word (.doc files). The source numbers changed
automatically as I cleaned up the document and added other sources. Now the
new added sources are recorded in an independent Source Citation List and
the old Citation List is not linked to the document at all. Does Legacy not
take over the formatting and linking as before.
Judy






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[LegacyUG] Updating Word Document from Legacy

[Judy Wardlaw]

In the past, I have converted books and reports from the Publication Centre to 
.rtf and thence Word (.doc files). The source numbers changed automatically as 
I cleaned up the document and added other sources. Now the new added sources 
are recorded in an independent Source Citation List and the old Citation List 
is not linked to the document at all. Does Legacy not take over the formatting 
and linking as before.
Judy


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Re: [LegacyUG] cemetery event

[Judy]

Rose~

Try View>Master Lists>Event Definition>Your Event>Edit.  There is a check
box on the upper right hand side "Exclude from Potential Problem report".
That helped me.

Judy



Hi all,
I have 450 persons with cemetery events.  All of these show up on the
problems report as an event after death, and I am looking for a way to
globally exclude them.  I don't _think_ I want to turn off the checking
for events after death for everyone, but can't figure out another way
short of individually marking them.  Ugh.

Does anyone have an idea on how to accomplish this?

Do others use the cemetery event?  Is there a better way to enter this
information?

Thanks for any ideas.

Rose
in Maryland




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy and County Names

[Judy]

Brian~

Mississippi has subdivisions (within Counties) called "beats", and not
townships, and for the life of me I can't figure them out.  They aren't
cities nor do they appear to be townships.  Using "County" has kept my
volunteer project sane, but frustrating because I can't map the beats.

Judy



And just to take this thread on a little side trip.to my knowledge
all states in the US have townships except for California and Louisiana


Brian in CA





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Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestors Report Help - current build 7.4.0.39

[Judy]

;-)  Love it!!


Q.E.D. is an acronym of the Latin phrase quod erat demonstrandum, which
means "that which was to be demonstrated". The phrase is traditionally
placed in its abbreviated form at the end of a mathematical proof or
philosophical argument when that which was specified in the enunciation, and
in the setting-out, has been exactly restated as the conclusion of the
demonstration





- Original Message -
From: "Mike Fry" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestors Report Help - current build 7.4.0.39


On 2010/05/30 12:49, Ron Ferguson wrote:

> I did not find this and I do not have time to pursue this now. You still
> haven't said what you have for the Master Default in
> Options>Customise>View>Edit Marriage defaults.

I can concur with what John has been trying to say.

a) Start with an empty file
b) Marriage Defaults are - well, the defaults
c) Add a person
d) Add a child

At this point because there is no spouse, the Wording Options in the
marriage for Unknown & Jane DOE is 'married someone'.

Also, the word 'Unknown' has been added as a spouse, because I have the
'Word for Blank Records' set that way. If I change it, the 'Unknown'
goes away, but the 'married someone' stays.

e) Add a spouse

In the marriage, the 'Wording Options' still says 'married someone'

Change the order of entry so that you have

a) Person
b) Spouse
c) Child

In the marriage, the 'Wording Options' says 'married'

QED

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] RE: New Search String for Family Search labs

[Judy]

This seems to work:

http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#surname=[LASTNAME]&p=recordResults&searchType=close&givenName=[FIRSTNAME]





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From: "Donald E. Paden" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:11 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] RE: New Search String for Family Search labs


Is it just me or has the search string changed again?

I am now getting an error message that says:

"Too many results were returned from the search to be displayed"


Donald E. Paden
don...@padenfamily.org
www.padenfamily.org




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Re: [LegacyUG] editing GeoExtraCodes.txt

[Judy]

Randy~

Thanks for posting this again.  I, too am having the exact same problem!!  I
am also unable to get the word "County" appended to long locations.  Most
frustrating.

Judy




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From: "Randy Clark" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 11:40 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] editing GeoExtraCodes.txt


-- Forwarded message --
From: Randy Clark 
Date: Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search and Replace
To: legacyusergr...@mail.millenniacorp.com


One more time with this. I placed the asterisk in front of line 113
and saved the file in the hope that USA would no longer append itself
automatically. Though I successfully did this once before it's not
working for me now. Am I on the right line?

Randy

On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 9:46 PM, Coddgenealogy
 wrote:
> Snip
> 3) I also wish there were a way to strip the word "County" from *only*
> the
> Short Locations and *only* temporarily so I could print a chart without
> that
> extra word.
> Snip
> I don't know if this will do exactly what you want, but consider the
> contents of GeoExtraCodes.txt, which I reproduce below. I posted twice
> to the list about this mysterious but all-powerful file, and nobody
> responded, so I emailed Sherry directly, who said it did work, but all
> mention of it was missing from, or should I say "not yet in," the help
> files. She tried a perfunctory modification to it and it did affect the
> way the geo database, etc. works.
> The mod date on my copy of the file is 11 Nov 2003. Anybody else got
> this in the geo folder under Legacy? Only deluxe version I think.
> I think it may only function when you have the geo database open, in
> which case you may be stuck with an Access fix.
> Jonathan
>
> * Legacy GeoDB Extra Commands List.
> *
> * Comment lines can be added to this file by placing an * as the first
> character.
> *
> * Notes: Add an * to comment out (deactivate) an item.
> * Remove the * character to activate an item you want to use.
> *
> * Numbers used to perform specified Action:
> *
> *
> * APPLY TO SELECTED LOCATION
> * ==
> * When a user selects a location in a specific country, Legacy can
> * perform the following commands when assembling the parts
> * 110 = (not functional at this time. we didn't think it would be
> used.)
> * 111 = Add this text to the end of the Long County field.
> * 112 = Add this text to the end of the Long State field.
> * 113 = Add this text to the end of the Long Country field.
> *
> * 114 = (not functional at this time. we didn't think it would be
> used.)
> * 115 = Add this text to the end of the Short County field.
> * 116 = Add this text to the end of the Short State field.
> * 117 = Add this text to the end of the Short Country field.
> *
> * 120 = (not functional at this time. we didn't think it would be
> used.)
> * 121 = Remove this text from the end of the Long County field.
> * 122 = Remove this text from the end of the Long State field.
> * 123 = (not functional at this time. we didn't think it would be
> used.)
> *
> * 124 = (not functional at this time. we didn't think it would be
> used.)
> * 125 = Remove this text from the end of the Short County field.
> * 126 = Remove this text from the end of the Short State field.
> * 127 = (not functional at this time. we didn't think it would be
> used.)
> *
> *
> * SEARCHING
> * ==
> * When performing a search in a specific country, Legacy can remove
> * or add the specified extra text and then try the search again.
> *
> * 210 = For searching Add this text to the end of the City field.
> * 211 = For searching Add this text to the end of the County field.
> * 212 = For searching Add this text to the end of the State field.
> * 213 = (not functional at this time. we didn't think it would be
> used.)
> *
> * 220 = For searching Remove this text from the end of the City
> field.
> * 221 = For searching Remove this text from the end of the County
> field.
> * 222 = For searching Remove this text from the end of the State
> field.
> * 223 = (not functional at this time. we didn't think it would be
> used.)
> *
> * ... = If there is a ... in the country position for the 200 level
> * Search actions then that action will be applied to all
> countries.
> *
> *
> * APPLY TO SELECTED LOCATION
> * ==
> *
> * United States
> *
> * add County to the end of the county field for Long Locations being
> returned
> *USA|111| County
> *USA|112| State
> * add Co. to the end of the county field for Short Locations being
> returned
> *USA|115| Co.
&g

Re: Re: RE: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Detail was (correction re: Show List)

[Judy]

Sounds good, Kirsten.  I may give it a try to see how it prints out.
Thanks.

Judy



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From: "Kirsten Bowman" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 4:35 PM
Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Detail was (correction re: Show
List)


Judy:

I use roughly the same method as you, but with a slight difference.  I
transcribe the listing for the entire family in the Details and then attach
that source to each member of the family.  It's the same amount of typing,
and avoids the problem of having to create what is essentially a different
source citation for each individual.  I also like being able to see the
whole family group listed as a unit in the Details rather than just the
information for an isolated individual.

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: Judy [mailto:eldestdaugh...@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 12:43 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: Re: RE: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Detail was (correction re:
Show List)


Thanks Ron.

Not exactly what I wanted to hear, but I can live with it.  I consider
myself a splitter, so if I have a source say - 1880 Federal Population
Census of Michigan (which never changes) I can select it from my Master
Source list, and use it as a specific source for (say in one case, the head
of the household), adding the county, Township, page and date to the source
detail and save it to the clip board.  I then like to paste the clipboard
source to each family member, adding the "comments/text" for each member of
the family in that given census enumeration i.e. age, gender, relationship
and occupation.  In theory, I thought the clipboard source should maintain
its integrity and not change (the blank) text/comments field I originally
pasted to it.  Oh well, I can live with it.  Thanks for your input.

Judy





Judy,

I haven't. As far as I know it has always worked like this, and to be honest
I prefer it. Often when adding a comment I will wish to use it again, for
example if I use a child's birth certificate to establish the parents I will
use it for both the father and mother.

I know it is there,  so it isn't a big deal to remember that I must delete
the comment before reusing. I admit to forgetting now and again, but I
consider that to be my problem and not the program's, and I guess I would
get more annoyed by repeatably having to put something into that section
because the program has deleted it. BTW. I have always thought of  those
additional sections as part of the Detail.

I look at the the Master Source as being something which will be absolutely
the same for all users of that Master Source ie. something which will
*never* be changed whereas everything else which relates to an individual,
or only a specific number of individuals, I consider to be the Detail.

Whilst I am at it, and as an example, let's consider censuses, which
currently are the subject of another thread. I am a lumper so my Master
Source contains nothing other than (say) 1891 Census England + census
reference, with (say) Ancestry as the Repository (and it annoys me that the
Repository is no longer part of the Detail). Everything else which I wish to
include is in the Detail (including the Comments etc.). Works perfectly,
even if I have to create a new Master Source should I use Findmypast! Shame
on you Legacy .

Ron Ferguson


Completely revised and rewritten:
http://www.fergys.co.uk
Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
And the Fergusons of N.W. England
____


Judy wrote:
> Ron~
>
> A question regarding your comment pertaining to copying a source, with
> specific details to the clipboard.  I have found the clipbaord useful
> for copying the source to multiple individuals, with one exception.
> After pasting the clipboard source to an individual, if I alter the
> text/comments section of the source, for a specific individual in
> his/her source screen (without altering the details of the source),
> the alteration for the specific individual is copied back to the
> clipboard (after using it twice). It is quite irritating to have the
> clipboard source automatically modified each time.  Any thoughts as
> to how to add specific text/comments for an individual WITHOUT having
> those specifics added to the clipboard?
>
> Thanks
>
> Judy
>
>
>
> One thing which hasn't been mention is that if a person with the
> Master Source and Detail which you require already exists, by going
> to that person in Family View Clicking the Books Icon, selecting the
> Event to which the Source applies it can all be copied onto the
> Source Clipboard by using the Copy Icon on the bottom left of that
> screen. It can then be pasted, altering the detail if required, to
> any other individual.
>
> Ron Ferguson






Legacy U

Re: Re: RE: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Detail was (correction re: Show List)

[Judy]

Thanks Ron.

Not exactly what I wanted to hear, but I can live with it.  I consider
myself a splitter, so if I have a source say - 1880 Federal Population
Census of Michigan (which never changes) I can select it from my Master
Source list, and use it as a specific source for (say in one case, the head
of the household), adding the county, Township, page and date to the source
detail and save it to the clip board.  I then like to paste the clipboard
source to each family member, adding the "comments/text" for each member of
the family in that given census enumeration i.e. age, gender, relationship
and occupation.  In theory, I thought the clipboard source should maintain
its integrity and not change (the blank) text/comments field I originally
pasted to it.  Oh well, I can live with it.  Thanks for your input.

Judy





Judy,

I haven't. As far as I know it has always worked like this, and to be honest
I prefer it. Often when adding a comment I will wish to use it again, for
example if I use a child's birth certificate to establish the parents I will
use it for both the father and mother.

I know it is there,  so it isn't a big deal to remember that I must delete
the comment before reusing. I admit to forgetting now and again, but I
consider that to be my problem and not the program's, and I guess I would
get more annoyed by repeatably having to put something into that section
because the program has deleted it. BTW. I have always thought of  those
additional sections as part of the Detail.

I look at the the Master Source as being something which will be absolutely
the same for all users of that Master Source ie. something which will
*never* be changed whereas everything else which relates to an individual,
or only a specific number of individuals, I consider to be the Detail.

Whilst I am at it, and as an example, let's consider censuses, which
currently are the subject of another thread. I am a lumper so my Master
Source contains nothing other than (say) 1891 Census England + census
reference, with (say) Ancestry as the Repository (and it annoys me that the
Repository is no longer part of the Detail). Everything else which I wish to
include is in the Detail (including the Comments etc.). Works perfectly,
even if I have to create a new Master Source should I use Findmypast! Shame
on you Legacy .

Ron Ferguson


Completely revised and rewritten:
http://www.fergys.co.uk
Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw
And the Fergusons of N.W. England



Judy wrote:
> Ron~
>
> A question regarding your comment pertaining to copying a source, with
> specific details to the clipboard.  I have found the clipbaord useful
> for copying the source to multiple individuals, with one exception.
> After pasting the clipboard source to an individual, if I alter the
> text/comments section of the source, for a specific individual in
> his/her source screen (without altering the details of the source),
> the alteration for the specific individual is copied back to the
> clipboard (after using it twice). It is quite irritating to have the
> clipboard source automatically modified each time.  Any thoughts as
> to how to add specific text/comments for an individual WITHOUT having
> those specifics added to the clipboard?
>
> Thanks
>
> Judy
>
>
>
> One thing which hasn't been mention is that if a person with the
> Master Source and Detail which you require already exists, by going
> to that person in Family View Clicking the Books Icon, selecting the
> Event to which the Source applies it can all be copied onto the
> Source Clipboard by using the Copy Icon on the bottom left of that
> screen. It can then be pasted, altering the detail if required, to
> any other individual.
>
> Ron Ferguson




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Re: Re: RE: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Detail was (correction re: Show List)

[Judy]

Ron~

A question regarding your comment pertaining to copying a source, with
specific details to the clipboard.  I have found the clipbaord useful for
copying the source to multiple individuals, with one exception.  After
pasting the clipboard source to an individual, if I alter the text/comments
section of the source, for a specific individual in his/her source screen
(without altering the details of the source), the alteration for the
specific individual is copied back to the clipboard (after using it twice).
It is quite irritating to have the clipboard source automatically modified
each time.  Any thoughts as to how to add specific text/comments for an
individual WITHOUT having those specifics added to the clipboard?

Thanks

Judy



One thing which hasn't been mention is that if a person with the Master
Source and Detail which you require already exists, by going to that person
in Family View Clicking the Books Icon, selecting the Event to which the
Source applies it can all be copied onto the Source Clipboard by using the
Copy Icon on the bottom left of that screen. It can then be pasted, altering
the detail if required, to any other individual.

Ron Ferguson




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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing Treatment for Obituaries

[Judy]

Doris~

I find it very helpful to use the name of the newspaper as the Master
Source, with the city and state of publication under "Publication Facts".
Yes. I have many newspapers in my master source list, but the sources and
references print cleanly and I can easily search each title to see whose
obituaries came from an individual newspaper.  I can also tag "newspaper" as
the source type and see all of the obituaries I've researched.  Can you
offer a suggestion to this avowed splitter why you would want to reduce the
number of Master Sources?  To me, they show diligent research.

Judy



Hi all,

I am trying to "clean" up and possibly reduce the number of master sources.
Currently, when I am lucky enough to find an obituary (say  from
Genealogybank.com) I am saving it as a  "Newspapers" source by itself called
Obituary: Name of Deceased, Year of Death. This method, although easy to
find by individual's name is creating way too many sources to scroll
through. Not all obituaries are from the same state, same newspaper, etc. so
I don't know the best way to group them as one master source, and then
allowing me to use the detail screen to personalize it for each individual.

Can anyone give me suggestions as to how you might be handling this? I
appreciate the help.
Thanks!
Doris




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Re: [LegacyUG] Facial comparison software

[Judy Senter]

Picasa is fair at this...although it did not pick out people at different ages.

--- On Mon, 3/29/10, Erin Bradshaw  wrote:

From: Erin Bradshaw 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Facial comparison software
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 2:45 PM





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Be aware that Picassa might not always
recognize a heavily bearded face.  My husband had a younger picture of
himself and turned to me and said, "It thinks I'm a bush!"
 
Erin

  - Original Message -
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  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com

  Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 1:26
PM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Facial comparison
  software



  Picasa
  is supposed to do this. It’s a free google product.
  Dee
    


  From: Kahan, Heinz
  [mailto:hei...@borcim.wustl.edu]
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 10:43
  AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject:
  [LegacyUG] Facial comparison software
    
  Greetings,
    
  Has anyone on the list used any software that does facial
  recognition/comparison.
    
  I have old photographs which look like they may contain the
  same individuals at various times over their lives but cannot be positive of
  their identity because of changes in their appearance.
    
  Is there any software that might help in matching/comparing
  facial features to identify an older photo with newer one?
    
  Any help is appreciated.
    
    
  Thanks
    
  -hhk
    
  ===
  Heinz H. Kahan
  Systems Manager - Molecular Microbiology
  Washington University School of Medicine
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(postal)
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mixed up ppl after changing AKA's

[Judy]

Sherry, no I haven't tried file maintenance, although I have rebooted, etc.
I had changed about 100 people, so maybe the odds were in your favor.

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:10 PM, S. Fry  wrote:

> Judy,
>
> I don't often edit a person's information from the name list (View, Name
> List), but thought I would try it to see what results I got.
>
> I entered AKAs for three people and added a surname to someone whose
> surname
> was blank. Then I went back to the family view, checked out the four people
> I had changed information for, and all is well -- no quirky stuff.
>
> Have you tried file maintenance, closing Legacy, re-booting your computer?
> That sometimes helps clear up odd behavior.
>
> Sherry
>
>
>
>
> From: Judy [mailto:jusen...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 5:42 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mixed up ppl after changing AKA's
>
> Judy wrote:
> > I spent all day yesterday entering AKA changes in my file. I was working
> > from the name list. I would find a name that needed an AKA, and then
> > go over
> > to the pop up window on the right and enter their AKA.
> >
> > Much to my horror, I later discovered that some ppl have the AKA's of
> > other
> > ppl and some indiv. got replaced in the file with someone else!  For
> > example, a Debbie Smith had an AKA "Rich" -- which belonged to Dick
> > Senter.
> > Also, my brother was replaced by another male of the same surname, but
> > totally different family!!
> >
> > Fortunately I made backups, but what gives I don't want to have it
> > happen again...
> >
> > Judy
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mixed up ppl after changing AKA's/Richard

[Judy]

Richard, actually what I was doing most of the time was putting a person's
nickname or alternate first name in the AKA box. It was an individual thing.
When, say, Elizabeth Smith's name is highlighted in the name list, you will
see a box on the right for editing her information. Let's say she was also
known as "Lizzie" Smith. Then I would click on the AKA button and fill in
the required fields in the popup, save it and then go on to the next name.

Somehow or other in that process, people got misplaced or replaced with
someone else.

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 7:29 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
wrote:

> I am trying to understand what you are asking. If I guess correctly you are
> wanting to change surnames for some people. Only if you want to change ALL
> people having that spelling should you use View; Master Lists; Surname. If
> you want to change one person at a time you need to edit that name in the
> Individual Information screen. The way to change a percentage of people go
> to Search; Search and Replace; and scroll through each name separately,
> choosing 'yes', 'stop' or 'next'. If you need something different please
> explain specifically what you are asking for. (Give example?)
> Rich in LA CA
>
> --- On Sun, 2/28/10, Marvin & Angelique Welch 
> wrote:
>
> > From: Marvin & Angelique Welch 
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mixed up ppl after changing AKA's
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> > Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 3:26 PM
> > Judy,
> >
> > This happens to me whenever I try to edit ANYTHING for an
> > individual
> > using the Name List instead of just editing it from their
> > Family View.
> > After hundreds of entries were screwed up by this in my
> > file, I just
> > quit using the Name List to edit anything. It bugs me to
> > death because
> > using the Name List is the easiest way to edit large hunks
> > of people
> > with less clicking. Legacy, slowly loosing me here...
> >
> > Angelique
> >
> > Judy wrote:
> > > I spent all day yesterday entering AKA changes in my
> > file. I was working
> > > from the name list. I would find a name that needed an
> > AKA, and then
> > > go over
> > > to the pop up window on the right and enter their
> > AKA.
> > >
> > > Much to my horror, I later discovered that some ppl
> > have the AKA's of
> > > other
> > > ppl and some indiv. got replaced in the file with
> > someone else!  For
> > > example, a Debbie Smith had an AKA "Rich" -- which
> > belonged to Dick
> > > Senter.
> > > Also, my brother was replaced by another male of the
> > same surname, but
> > > totally different family!!
> > >
> > > Fortunately I made backups, but what gives I don't
> > want to have it
> > > happen again...
> > >
> > > Judy
> >
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mixed up ppl after changing AKA's

[Judy]

Well, I'm sorry you had the same issue...but at least I'm not the only one.
I am now going through laboriously individual by individual.

I also did some mass changes in the locations master list...I hope that
didn't mess anything up!

Judy

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Marvin & Angelique Welch <
angeli...@porphyrins.org> wrote:

> Judy,
>
> This happens to me whenever I try to edit ANYTHING for an individual
> using the Name List instead of just editing it from their Family View.
> After hundreds of entries were screwed up by this in my file, I just
> quit using the Name List to edit anything. It bugs me to death because
> using the Name List is the easiest way to edit large hunks of people
> with less clicking. Legacy, slowly loosing me here...
>
> Angelique
>
> Judy wrote:
> > I spent all day yesterday entering AKA changes in my file. I was working
> > from the name list. I would find a name that needed an AKA, and then
> > go over
> > to the pop up window on the right and enter their AKA.
> >
> > Much to my horror, I later discovered that some ppl have the AKA's of
> > other
> > ppl and some indiv. got replaced in the file with someone else!  For
> > example, a Debbie Smith had an AKA "Rich" -- which belonged to Dick
> > Senter.
> > Also, my brother was replaced by another male of the same surname, but
> > totally different family!!
> >
> > Fortunately I made backups, but what gives I don't want to have it
> > happen again...
> >
> > Judy
>
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[LegacyUG] Mixed up ppl after changing AKA's

[Judy]

I spent all day yesterday entering AKA changes in my file. I was working
from the name list. I would find a name that needed an AKA, and then go over
to the pop up window on the right and enter their AKA.

Much to my horror, I later discovered that some ppl have the AKA's of other
ppl and some indiv. got replaced in the file with someone else!  For
example, a Debbie Smith had an AKA "Rich" -- which belonged to Dick Senter.
Also, my brother was replaced by another male of the same surname, but
totally different family!!

Fortunately I made backups, but what gives I don't want to have it
happen again...

Judy



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[LegacyUG] family file location problem‏

[Judy Hogel]

Dear Leo, George and Rich,



Thanks for your responses which comfirmed that my family file was not being 
saved in an appropriate folder.  With your information I believe I have solved 
my problem.  Thanks so much.



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[LegacyUG] family file location problem

[Judy Hogel]

I am having difficulty with locating my family files that have been saved.  I 
believe I did something incorrectly when I first installed my Legacy program 
and started using it or when I made changes in trying to find my family files.  
I’ve read through all of the Help menu items as well as the Legacy Users Guide 
and nothing seems to address my problem.  I am hoping that someone who is 
somewhat of an expert in how and where the family files created with Legacy 
should be stored on my computer might be able to help me out of my difficulty.  
If you could tell me what your file path reads in the following instances, I 
think I might be able to figure out what I’ve done wrong.

Under Help menu-General Information, Family File Information,
What does your file information read for – Family File Path? 
What does your file information read for – Legacy Path? 

Under Customize-Locations
What does your default location of family files read? 
What does your default location for picture files read? ___

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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 and lock-up

[Judy Wardlaw]

Teresa I had this problem with XP. If I backup from the Pedigree View I do
not have any trouble. It does not fix the problem (which is spasmodic) in
backing up from the Family View but is what I do until there is a solution
Judy
Teresa Keough sent on  February 10, 2010 10:46 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91 and lock-up


I use Windows 7

-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, 09 February, 2010 4:28 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 and lock-up

Terea,
Am I right in thinking that you are not using Windows XP but Vista or W7?

Ron Ferguson



Teresa Keough wrote:
> I get this error when I have not opened Legacy in administrator mode
> before trying to backup – don’t know if that is my computer issue or
> Legacy but I just make sure to open in administrator mode before
> making my backups.
>
> From: Jack Earnshaw [mailto:jackearnsh...@btinternet.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 09 February, 2010 3:08 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91 and lock-up
>
> Jane
>
> There are several of us who get this problem when trying to do a
> backup. It’s obviously worth doing a check/repair, but it might not
> cure the problem. The Legacy staff haven’t been able to reproduce the
> problem as yet.
>
> One way that seems to work OK is to do an automatic backup on exit.
> To get this set up use Options/Customise and go to the “Other” tab.
> Then click the big box “turn on or off optional reminder messages”.
> Select the “prompts/reminders” tab and check the third box down –
> “Reminder to make a backup when exiting Legacy”
>
> I used to get Error 91 nearly every time when trying to do a backup.
> Since doing backups on exit the problem hasn’t happened at all.
>
> Jack
>
> From: Jane Sarles [mailto:sarlesinsi...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 09 February 2010 17:01
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Error 91 and lock-up
>
> When I try to do a back-up, I get this message:
>
>Error reading individual;  Error 91: object variables at With band
> not set.
>
>
> then my computer locks up.
>
> HELP!
>
> Jane S.








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Re: [LegacyUG] Un-named children

[Judy]

My late Father-in-Law called me "What's Her Name" for 27 years.  Do you
suppose Legacy will flag that?  ;-)



- Original Message -
From: Brian L. Lightfoot
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 11:38 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Un-named children


About a week or so ago there were some discussions about how to enter a name
for children that probably died early without any name being given. On a
related note, I thought I’d pass along this little tidbit I came across
yesterday from a 1900 census image. I found the family that I was looking
for and there was the youngest child still with no name. However, he was
already 11 months old! Talk about parents that couldn’t make up their minds!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting Help window blank

[Judy Wardlaw]

Patricia
I am not surprised that you are confused. All I produced was a direct line 
descendant chart with siblings from one earliest male ancestor. I would need to 
repeat it for the other male ancestor surnames if I was interested in them.It 
is not a complete chart but a series of charts. I thought that Dawn was 
interested in those with the same surnames.
Judy

Patricia wrote


  Judy,

  I am a little confused or missing something in your reply to Dawn.  I 
understand creating the new file, but then how do I use the charting to produce 
the file with all ancestors and their siblings?  All I have been able to get is 
the ancestors.

  Patricia Thomas-Hill


  Dawn
  I use Charting and my help file comes up fine.
  To check for updates click on "Tips & Updates" (the last item on the
  Charting toolbar ribbon)
  As regards the chart you want
  In Legacy tag all ancestors on an unused tag (Family View.> Edit > Tag
  records) .
  Then on the second screen Check Direct line Ancestors
  Also if you want them, check "Include other spouses" and "spouses of
  siblings".
  Then go to File > Export to > Legacy File, Give it a name and then check
  "all records with an individual tag of " your tag number.
  Use this file to produce your chart.
  It takes longer to write than do!
  Judy


  You wrote

  I am trying to find a way to do an
  ancestor tree (graphical) that shows the siblings of my ancestors on
  the same tree.  I couldn't find a way to do it on Legacy, and then
  through to try out the charting program.  I did an ancestor standard
  tree on there, and though it looks nice, I still can't find a way to
  list siblings on there either.  My first question is, is there a way
  to do a visual ancestor tree which includes siblings?

  Then, in my attempt to find out if I could do this in charting, I
  clicked on the help button, and then on the "help system" button and
  it brought up a BLANK html window with no text.  Where did the help
  manual go within charting?  I also don't know how to go about checking
  for updates and updating charting when necessary.

  Thanks for your help!

  Dawn D. in NJ




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting Help window blank

[Judy Wardlaw]

Ron and Dawn
I have just tried my database on a second XP computer and the Help File in
Legacy Charting is blank. The Help File still works on my own computer with
the latest Legacy version! Both from within Legacy and from the stand alone
programme on the desktop. Mystery!
Judy


It sounds as though you are not using the latest version of Legacy
(V7.0.4.6).

Ron Ferguson

Judy Wardlaw wrote:
> Dawn
> I use Charting and my help file comes up fine.
> To check for updates click on "Tips & Updates" (the last item on the
> Charting toolbar ribbon)
> As regards the chart you want
> In Legacy tag all ancestors on an unused tag (Family View.> Edit > Tag
> records) .
> Then on the second screen Check Direct line Ancestors
> Also if you want them, check "Include other spouses" and "spouses of
> siblings".
> Then go to File > Export to > Legacy File, Give it a name and then
> check "all records with an individual tag of " your tag number.
> Use this file to produce your chart.
> It takes longer to write than do!
> Judy
>
>
> You wrote
>
> I am trying to find a way to do an
> ancestor tree (graphical) that shows the siblings of my ancestors on
> the same tree.  I couldn't find a way to do it on Legacy, and then
> through to try out the charting program.  I did an ancestor standard
> tree on there, and though it looks nice, I still can't find a way to
> list siblings on there either.  My first question is, is there a way
> to do a visual ancestor tree which includes siblings?
>
> Then, in my attempt to find out if I could do this in charting, I
> clicked on the help button, and then on the "help system" button and
> it brought up a BLANK html window with no text.  Where did the help
> manual go within charting?  I also don't know how to go about checking
> for updates and updating charting when necessary.
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Dawn D. in NJ




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting Help window blank

[Judy Wardlaw]

Ron and  Dawn
I realised what I did. I made a  Descendant chart of the earliest ancestor
with the particular surname ( Dawn I think, was wanting ancestors and
siblings with same surname). You still need to make the new file from tagged
entries as mentioned before and use that. You would need to do it for each
name that she was following.
Sorry to be confusing.
Judy

Ron
Yes I am using V7.0.4.6 and have been since it was released.
I have just made a chart using  Legacy Charting 7.0.120 with Ancestors and
siblings.
Judy


Ron wrote

Judy,

It sounds as though you are not using the latest version of Legacy
(V7.0.4.6).

Ron Ferguson



Judy Wardlaw wrote:
> Dawn
> I use Charting and my help file comes up fine.
> To check for updates click on "Tips & Updates" (the last item on the
> Charting toolbar ribbon)
> As regards the chart you want
> In Legacy tag all ancestors on an unused tag (Family View.> Edit > Tag
> records) .
> Then on the second screen Check Direct line Ancestors
> Also if you want them, check "Include other spouses" and "spouses of
> siblings".
> Then go to File > Export to > Legacy File, Give it a name and then
> check "all records with an individual tag of " your tag number.
> Use this file to produce your chart.
> It takes longer to write than do!
> Judy
>
>
> You wrote
>
> I am trying to find a way to do an
> ancestor tree (graphical) that shows the siblings of my ancestors on
> the same tree.  I couldn't find a way to do it on Legacy, and then
> through to try out the charting program.  I did an ancestor standard
> tree on there, and though it looks nice, I still can't find a way to
> list siblings on there either.  My first question is, is there a way
> to do a visual ancestor tree which includes siblings?
>
> Then, in my attempt to find out if I could do this in charting, I
> clicked on the help button, and then on the "help system" button and
> it brought up a BLANK html window with no text.  Where did the help
> manual go within charting?  I also don't know how to go about checking
> for updates and updating charting when necessary.
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Dawn D. in NJ




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting Help window blank

[Judy Wardlaw]

Ron
Yes I am using V7.0.4.6 and have been since it was released.
I have just made a chart using  Legacy Charting 7.0.120 with Ancestors and
siblings.
Judy

Ron wrote

Judy,

It sounds as though you are not using the latest version of Legacy
(V7.0.4.6).

Ron Ferguson
_

Judy Wardlaw wrote:
> Dawn
> I use Charting and my help file comes up fine.
> To check for updates click on "Tips & Updates" (the last item on the
> Charting toolbar ribbon)
> As regards the chart you want
> In Legacy tag all ancestors on an unused tag (Family View.> Edit > Tag
> records) .
> Then on the second screen Check Direct line Ancestors
> Also if you want them, check "Include other spouses" and "spouses of
> siblings".
> Then go to File > Export to > Legacy File, Give it a name and then
> check "all records with an individual tag of " your tag number.
> Use this file to produce your chart.
> It takes longer to write than do!
> Judy
>
>
> You wrote
>
> I am trying to find a way to do an
> ancestor tree (graphical) that shows the siblings of my ancestors on
> the same tree.  I couldn't find a way to do it on Legacy, and then
> through to try out the charting program.  I did an ancestor standard
> tree on there, and though it looks nice, I still can't find a way to
> list siblings on there either.  My first question is, is there a way
> to do a visual ancestor tree which includes siblings?
>
> Then, in my attempt to find out if I could do this in charting, I
> clicked on the help button, and then on the "help system" button and
> it brought up a BLANK html window with no text.  Where did the help
> manual go within charting?  I also don't know how to go about checking
> for updates and updating charting when necessary.
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Dawn D. in NJ




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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Charting Help window blank

[Judy Wardlaw]

Dawn
I use Charting and my help file comes up fine.
To check for updates click on "Tips & Updates" (the last item on the
Charting toolbar ribbon)
As regards the chart you want
In Legacy tag all ancestors on an unused tag (Family View.> Edit > Tag
records) .
Then on the second screen Check Direct line Ancestors
Also if you want them, check "Include other spouses" and "spouses of
siblings".
Then go to File > Export to > Legacy File, Give it a name and then check
"all records with an individual tag of " your tag number.
Use this file to produce your chart.
It takes longer to write than do!
Judy


You wrote

I am trying to find a way to do an
ancestor tree (graphical) that shows the siblings of my ancestors on
the same tree.  I couldn't find a way to do it on Legacy, and then
through to try out the charting program.  I did an ancestor standard
tree on there, and though it looks nice, I still can't find a way to
list siblings on there either.  My first question is, is there a way
to do a visual ancestor tree which includes siblings?

Then, in my attempt to find out if I could do this in charting, I
clicked on the help button, and then on the "help system" button and
it brought up a BLANK html window with no text.  Where did the help
manual go within charting?  I also don't know how to go about checking
for updates and updating charting when necessary.

Thanks for your help!

Dawn D. in NJ






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Re: [LegacyUG] Happiness, moving citations, and anyone in NJ?

[Judy Wardlaw]

Oh yes, I know of those.  Use them CONSTANTLY.  Don't know how any
computer operator wouldn't use them :0
But regarding legacy, I doubt this would work for multiple tabs.  In
other words.  I want to copy not only the text in the "notes" tab, but
also want to copy the text in the "detail information" tab, and then
somehow paste them onto a different master source.


Dawn
I have a programme called Clipmate that Iallows you to copy and store as
many items as you like and then retrieve them. I use it all the time.
Judy.






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Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Master Source Text

[Brent and Judy Schultz]

Thank you for noticing. I will copy your response and add it to my
ticket.

Thanks, Judy
- Original Message -
From: "Deborah Trounstine" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Master Source Text


Hi Judy,
I had the same thing happen with a couple of other templates in Deluxe7
whenever I tried to enter a repository. All my text would disappear
unless I entered the repository BEFORE any text/comments. I couldn't
figure out what I was doing wrong for the longest time - until it
occurred to me that it was a bug.
I did have to laugh tho that you called Brian/Support "Brain". I bet he
got a kick out of that :)
Happy New Year!

Brent and Judy Schultz wrote:
> Thank you everyone! I thought I was going crazy with disappearing
> text.
> I tried typing in the same piece of information from an obituary four
> times
> before I even contacted anyone because I thought I was doing something
> wrong. When I figured out it there might be a bigger problem, I did open a
> ticket with Legacy. And I very happy to hear that Brain you were able to
> recreate my problem. THANK YOU  I talked with someone today and they
> are
> going to have one of the programmers that worked on source writer contact
> me.
>
> Thanks everyone, Judy
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brian/Support" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Master Source Text
>
>
> I just tested the Standard Version of Legacy and have confirmed the
> problem. It does not appear to be a problem for the Deluxe Version. I
> will enter a problem report in our problem tracking system for this error.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> We are changing the world of genealogy!
> When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
> Thanks.
>
> Brent and Judy Schultz wrote:
>
>> I just added a census record, I went to the person Cyril Vesper and in
>> assigned Source screen, clicked add a New Source under name event, I
>> clicked
>> on the option to use source writer.
>>
>> Step 1 - clicked following boxes
>> Census
>> United States
>> Federal Census Reports
>> 1880 Population Schedule
>> Online Census
>>
>> Step 2 - I only title 1880 Oak Grove, Dodge County, Wisconsin Census -
>> Cyril
>> Vesper 249/250 then added State (Wisconsin) and County (Dodge). All the
>> other fields are either filled in by the program or I left blank.
>> Then I clicked on the text tab.
>> In the text box I entered in the census data:
>>
>> Cyrel Vesper, w, m, 48, married, farmer, VT, Mass, VT; Emma Vesper,
>> w,
>> f, 36, wife, married, keeps house, N. York, N. York, N. York; Lester
>> Vesper,
>> w, m, 12, son, single, at school, Wisc, VT, N. York; Susan Vesper, w, f,
>> 7,
>> dau., single, at school, Wisc, VT, N. York, Herbert Vesper, w, m, 8, son,
>> single, at home, Wisc, Vt; N. York; Martin Hyland, w, f, 11, Mrs.
>> daughter,
>> at school, Wis, Maine, N. York; Nettie Fraun, w, f, 18, servant, single,
>> works in house, Wisc, VT, N. York.
>>
>> Then I clicked save.
>>
>> Step 3 - I didn't add a thing. I just clicked save.
>>
>> Went back into the person's information and clicked on source button. The
>> Assigned Source Screen for Cyril Vesper was displayed. I highlighted the
>> source 1880 Oak Grove, Dodge County, Wisconsin Census- Cyril Vesper
>> 249/259.
>> Under the Master text is the above text data of Cyril Vesper and his
>> family.
>>
>> I clicked edit source.  Then I clicked on the tab Text/Comments and it is
>> empty.
>>
>> Does this help?
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Mike Fry" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 10:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Master Source Text
>>
>>
>> Brent and Judy Schultz said the following on 2009/12/31 18:44:
>>
>>
>>> Sorry, I thought I said "newspaper and census."
>>>
>> You did! The problem being that there are numerous templates with the
>> word
>> newspaper in them. Supply the exact information from the Source Template
>> Index
>> and you might get some assistance.
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Initial Test

[Brent and Judy Schultz]

I received your email.

Judy Schultz
- Original Message -
From: "David" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 11:58 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Initial Test


Anyone reading this message?  I have tried three times, received three
confirmations from mail.legacyusers.com  and still no list messages.  I
have also checked my virus protection program and their are no blocks
(containing Legacy).

David




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Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Master Source Text

[Brent and Judy Schultz]

Thank you everyone! I thought I was going crazy with disappearing text.
I tried typing in the same piece of information from an obituary four times
before I even contacted anyone because I thought I was doing something
wrong. When I figured out it there might be a bigger problem, I did open a
ticket with Legacy. And I very happy to hear that Brain you were able to
recreate my problem. THANK YOU  I talked with someone today and they are
going to have one of the programmers that worked on source writer contact
me.

Thanks everyone, Judy


- Original Message -
From: "Brian/Support" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Master Source Text


I just tested the Standard Version of Legacy and have confirmed the
problem. It does not appear to be a problem for the Deluxe Version. I
will enter a problem report in our problem tracking system for this error.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!
When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
Thanks.

Brent and Judy Schultz wrote:
> I just added a census record, I went to the person Cyril Vesper and in
> assigned Source screen, clicked add a New Source under name event, I
> clicked
> on the option to use source writer.
>
> Step 1 - clicked following boxes
> Census
> United States
> Federal Census Reports
> 1880 Population Schedule
> Online Census
>
> Step 2 - I only title 1880 Oak Grove, Dodge County, Wisconsin Census -
> Cyril
> Vesper 249/250 then added State (Wisconsin) and County (Dodge). All the
> other fields are either filled in by the program or I left blank.
> Then I clicked on the text tab.
> In the text box I entered in the census data:
>
> Cyrel Vesper, w, m, 48, married, farmer, VT, Mass, VT; Emma Vesper, w,
> f, 36, wife, married, keeps house, N. York, N. York, N. York; Lester
> Vesper,
> w, m, 12, son, single, at school, Wisc, VT, N. York; Susan Vesper, w, f,
> 7,
> dau., single, at school, Wisc, VT, N. York, Herbert Vesper, w, m, 8, son,
> single, at home, Wisc, Vt; N. York; Martin Hyland, w, f, 11, Mrs.
> daughter,
> at school, Wis, Maine, N. York; Nettie Fraun, w, f, 18, servant, single,
> works in house, Wisc, VT, N. York.
>
> Then I clicked save.
>
> Step 3 - I didn't add a thing. I just clicked save.
>
> Went back into the person's information and clicked on source button. The
> Assigned Source Screen for Cyril Vesper was displayed. I highlighted the
> source 1880 Oak Grove, Dodge County, Wisconsin Census- Cyril Vesper
> 249/259.
> Under the Master text is the above text data of Cyril Vesper and his
> family.
>
> I clicked edit source.  Then I clicked on the tab Text/Comments and it is
> empty.
>
> Does this help?
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike Fry" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 10:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Master Source Text
>
>
> Brent and Judy Schultz said the following on 2009/12/31 18:44:
>
>> Sorry, I thought I said "newspaper and census."
>
> You did! The problem being that there are numerous templates with the word
> newspaper in them. Supply the exact information from the Source Template
> Index
> and you might get some assistance.
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Master Source Text

[Brent and Judy Schultz]

Sorry, I stated wrong before it is not under the Output tab of the assigned
source screen but under the Text/Comments tab that I can see the text.


- Original Message -
From: "Mike Fry" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Master Source Text


Brent and Judy Schultz said the following on 2009/12/31 18:44:

> Sorry, I thought I said "newspaper and census."

You did! The problem being that there are numerous templates with the word
newspaper in them. Supply the exact information from the Source Template
Index
and you might get some assistance.

--
Regards & a Prosperous New Year to All,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Master Source Text

[Brent and Judy Schultz]

I just added a census record, I went to the person Cyril Vesper and in
assigned Source screen, clicked add a New Source under name event, I clicked
on the option to use source writer.

Step 1 - clicked following boxes
Census
United States
Federal Census Reports
1880 Population Schedule
Online Census

Step 2 - I only title 1880 Oak Grove, Dodge County, Wisconsin Census - Cyril
Vesper 249/250 then added State (Wisconsin) and County (Dodge). All the
other fields are either filled in by the program or I left blank.
Then I clicked on the text tab.
In the text box I entered in the census data:

Cyrel Vesper, w, m, 48, married, farmer, VT, Mass, VT; Emma Vesper, w,
f, 36, wife, married, keeps house, N. York, N. York, N. York; Lester Vesper,
w, m, 12, son, single, at school, Wisc, VT, N. York; Susan Vesper, w, f, 7,
dau., single, at school, Wisc, VT, N. York, Herbert Vesper, w, m, 8, son,
single, at home, Wisc, Vt; N. York; Martin Hyland, w, f, 11, Mrs. daughter,
at school, Wis, Maine, N. York; Nettie Fraun, w, f, 18, servant, single,
works in house, Wisc, VT, N. York.

Then I clicked save.

Step 3 - I didn't add a thing. I just clicked save.

Went back into the person's information and clicked on source button. The
Assigned Source Screen for Cyril Vesper was displayed. I highlighted the
source 1880 Oak Grove, Dodge County, Wisconsin Census- Cyril Vesper 249/259.
Under the Master text is the above text data of Cyril Vesper and his family.

I clicked edit source.  Then I clicked on the tab Text/Comments and it is
empty.

Does this help?


- Original Message -
From: "Mike Fry" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Master Source Text


Brent and Judy Schultz said the following on 2009/12/31 18:44:

> Sorry, I thought I said "newspaper and census."

You did! The problem being that there are numerous templates with the word
newspaper in them. Supply the exact information from the Source Template
Index
and you might get some assistance.

--
Regards & a Prosperous New Year to All,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Master Source Text

[Brent and Judy Schultz]

Sorry, I thought I said "newspaper and census."

- Original Message -
From: "Ron Ferguson" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Master Source Text


Judy,

We understand that you are using the Source Writer, but within this there
are a few hundred templates/master sources, all have a name. The answer
which we need to know is to the question "Which of these templates are you
having problems with?".

Ron Ferguson

Brent and Judy Schultz wrote:
> I'm testing out the free version of Legacy 7, version 7.0.0.109 build
> date 1 Sept 2009 on a vista operating system on HP Pavilion dv6000
> lap top. I built the data with gedcom file from Family Tree Builder
> program and then was adding in information on other people manually.
> I am not having a problem with any of the information transferred
> through gedcom. I noticed the problem when I began to type in
> manually a few newspaper or census information using the source
> writer option. So the problem I having is with those sources created
> using the source writer. The ones with a bullet in front of them.
>
> I have entered in four or five obituaries and several census records
> this way. I use the source writer to create the master source and
> click on master source text tab and enter in the information from the
> obituary or census record into the master source text box. Once the
> master source was created then I save it. Then for the next event for
> a certain person, I will select the newly created master source for
> any event it pertains to that person. Such as birth, death, parent
> relationship or residence information. Usually an obituary will deal
> with about 15 to 20 people with an average of two or three events per
> person. I will select this master source for each event about each
> person.
>
> I didn't notice the problem right away because I actually I don't
> lose what I typed in right away because I can see it under a person's
> assignment source screen under a box labeled Output: Master Text.
> Since I seen it displayed on this screen, there was no reason to go
> back and check in the master source to see if I could find the
> information under the master source text tab and box. Why would I
> check for something I can see? It's there in the assigned person's
> screen under Output: master source text. Then I noticed a misspelled
> word in one of bits on information and I thought I would simply go
> out into the master source text and change that one word. I hit the
> button edit master source from the person's assigned source screen
> and when I went to view the text to change the word, there is nothing
> in the master source text box to edit. It's empty. This has happened
> on every single master source that I created with the source writer
> option. Maybe I thought I looking in the wrong place, so I saved the
> master source and the text disappeared. That means I was in the right
> place because I just overwrote my information with the blank box in
> the master source text box. So I learned that if I save that master
> source box when I find it empty, it overwrites the master source with
> nothing and I lose what I typed. But if I cancel out of the master
> source and then go back to the person's assigned source screen under
> the output: master text the information that I typed in the first
> time is still there. I can't edit it which is a problem for me. I
> don't have a problem as long as I never want to change a single word
> or letter or number in what I first typed. But since I have a
> tendency to switch letters when I type, I'm going to need to go and
> fix misspelled words and incorrect numbers and letters. I don't
> always notice the misspelled words the first time.
>
> So that is where I sit right now. I can see what I typed into the
> master text through the person's assigned source screen and the
> information stays there as long as I don't go back in and edit the
> master source. I can't figure out why I can't edit the information. I
> have several master sources were a flipped letters and incorrect date
> when my fingers went over to far. So right now, some of my data is no
> good because it is wrong and I can't correct it. I could remove them
> and redo every source I typed in through the past two or three weeks
> and never use the source writer option again but I really don't want
> to do this. It would be a lot of work.
>
> Thanks, Judy
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Marilyn Clark" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 8:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Master Source Text
>
>
> I have not 

Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Master Source Text

[Brent and Judy Schultz]

I'm testing out the free version of Legacy 7, version 7.0.0.109 build date 1
Sept 2009 on a vista operating system on HP Pavilion dv6000 lap top. I built
the data with gedcom file from Family Tree Builder program and then was
adding in information on other people manually. I am not having a problem
with any of the information transferred through gedcom. I noticed the
problem when I began to type in manually a few newspaper or census
information using the source writer option. So the problem I having is with
those sources created using the source writer. The ones with a bullet in
front of them.

I have entered in four or five obituaries and several census records this
way. I use the source writer to create the master source and click on master
source text tab and enter in the information from the obituary or census
record into the master source text box. Once the master source was created
then I save it. Then for the next event for a certain person, I will select
the newly created master source for any event it pertains to that person.
Such as birth, death, parent relationship or residence information. Usually
an obituary will deal with about 15 to 20 people with an average of two or
three events per person. I will select this master source for each event
about each person.

I didn't notice the problem right away because I actually I don't lose what
I typed in right away because I can see it under a person's assignment
source screen under a box labeled Output: Master Text. Since I seen it
displayed on this screen, there was no reason to go back and check in the
master source to see if I could find the information under the master source
text tab and box. Why would I check for something I can see? It's there in
the assigned person's screen under Output: master source text. Then I
noticed a misspelled word in one of bits on information and I thought I
would simply go out into the master source text and change that one word. I
hit the button edit master source from the person's assigned source screen
and when I went to view the text to change the word, there is nothing in the
master source text box to edit. It's empty. This has happened on every
single master source that I created with the source writer option. Maybe I
thought I looking in the wrong place, so I saved the master source and the
text disappeared. That means I was in the right place because I just
overwrote my information with the blank box in the master source text box.
So I learned that if I save that master source box when I find it empty, it
overwrites the master source with nothing and I lose what I typed. But if I
cancel out of the master source and then go back to the person's assigned
source screen under the output: master text the information that I typed in
the first time is still there. I can't edit it which is a problem for me. I
don't have a problem as long as I never want to change a single word or
letter or number in what I first typed. But since I have a tendency to
switch letters when I type, I'm going to need to go and fix misspelled words
and incorrect numbers and letters. I don't always notice the misspelled
words the first time.

So that is where I sit right now. I can see what I typed into the master
text through the person's assigned source screen and the information stays
there as long as I don't go back in and edit the master source. I can't
figure out why I can't edit the information. I have several master sources
were a flipped letters and incorrect date when my fingers went over to far.
So right now, some of my data is no good because it is wrong and I can't
correct it. I could remove them and redo every source I typed in through the
past two or three weeks and never use the source writer option again but I
really don't want to do this. It would be a lot of work.

Thanks, Judy

- Original Message -
From: "Marilyn Clark" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Master Source Text


I have not run into this problem. Tell us your Operating System and build
number for Legacy 7. Sometimes this makes a big difference. This is a great
group - someone will have an answer for you!

Marilyn


--- On Wed, 12/30/09, Brent and Judy Schultz  wrote:

> From: Brent and Judy Schultz 
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Missing Master Source Text
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 8:10 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm having problem
> with disappearing text within a
> master source that is created using the Source Writer
> option in Legacy
> 7. Any text that I type into the master source text
> box can be viewed under
> assigned sources screen under output master Text for
> a person, yet when I
> click on edit source and to pull up the original text to
> change a word or
> something else, there is