[LegacyUG] Legacy Blog Entry re: My Heritage

[Paul Gray]

Good posting from Geoff regarding Legacy and My Heritage

Bottom Line


  *   Legacy will continue as a stand alone desktop program
  *   There will be links to My Heritage, but they are totally optional

http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/08/legacy-and-myheritage-more-faqs-answered.html


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Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

[Paul Gray]

John,

I cautiously optimistic that My Heritage will maintain Legacy as a standalone 
program, with syncing to an online tree fully optional. If you look at the 
competition who have recently introduced or upgraded online tree syncing (to 
Ancestry), both Roots Magic and Family Tree Maker still run as independent 
desktop programs. Syncing, or even having an Ancestry account, is optional. One 
would expect Legacy/My Heritage to offer the same in order to compete. While a 
substantial number of people want online trees synced to their desktop tree, 
there are many of us who still want local trees only. I really don’t think they 
will abandon us and risk us going to the competition (at least I hope so).

In addition, I think this at least gives us hope that Legacy will be rewritten 
on to a modern technical platform. It was clear that Millenia alone was not 
going to do the rewrite. Although I don’t have any inside knowledge, I suspect 
that the substantial investment required for the rewrite could not be recovered 
in future sales given the current customer base. With My Heritage, there are 
more resources available, and hopefully they can expand their customer base. 
They haven’t committed to a rewrite, but If Legacy 10 sells well, and a they 
have good subscription sales for the MH site, I hope Legacy 11 will be new 
technology.

Time will tell, and for now it’s business as usual.

Paul


From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
Sent: August 5, 2017 9:22 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Fw: Concerns about MyHeritage

I realise that Legacy is currently a stand-alone program but I cannot see how 
it can last in its current form. First, technology and users expectations 
rapidly change and increase, while it my understanding is that Legacy is built 
on outdated technology which is why it cannot handle Unicode. Secondly, I 
cannot see why MyHeritage, which does everything online would keep Legacy which 
cannot cater for all their worldwide/culturally diverse users. It simply does 
not gel.
I do not buy the reassurances given. I have been through restructures and 
merges in private and public sectors.  Reassurances about changes to practices 
or staffing never bear out.
John

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Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list

[Paul Gray]

CE,

I assume you have turned off all graphics in webpage browsing, and only view 
pure text.  Otherwise, you are exposing yourself to the exact same risks when 
browsing.


Paul


From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of CE WOOD
Sent: May 8, 2017 12:05 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list


Attachments are not a risk unless you open them. A graphic that is inside the 
email and opens automatically is a risk.



I am so glad you have been fortunate. Not all have.




CE


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 on behalf of Carrie Pillow 
>
Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 9:27 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list


I agree



And I've never know an embedded picture have a virus, it attachment that are a 
risk.



And I would not want to put a link to a personal cloud on a public  list that 
is asking for viruses.



I think if you wish to keep this list alive, there need to be some flexibility 
and common sense



Regards



Carrie



Apologies if I offend,







From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Wes
Sent: 08 May 2017 15:04
To: Legacy User Group 
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list



I know attachments are banned, but a graphic pasted in the email seems to be a 
good way to show how to do something.

Am I wrong?

wes
On 5/7/2017 8:59 PM, CE WOOD wrote:

But they too often carry viruses and/or malware and have been banned from the 
list for that reason.



CE





From: LegacyUserGroup 

 on behalf of Carrie Pillow 

Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 5:43 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list



It's the easiest way to help someone ?







From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of CE WOOD
Sent: 08 May 2017 01:37
To: LegacyUserGroup 

Subject: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list



Are graphics now allowed on this list? There have been many posted this week.



If they are not, a reminder is really needed!





CE




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Re: [LegacyUG] File locations on new installs

[Paul Gray]

Brian

Is Windows now just creating the 'One Drive' documents folder, or is still
also creating the 'user profile' documents folder?

When I got a new PC almost exactly one year ago with Windows 10
preinstalled, it had BOTH the the C:\Users\username\ Documents folder as
well as the One Drive Documents folder.

I am wondering if Windows is really doing anything new with respect to the
folders it CREATES, or whether it's just what they designate as the
"default" Documents folder?

Paul Gray
 

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Brian L. Lightfoot
Sent: May 27, 2016 10:12 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] File locations on new installs

That's all good information to know and pretty much what I've been trying to
say. Legacy users can continue to save their family file and media file to
wherever they want. Even with the change that Microsoft has made to brand
new clean installs (not Upgrades) of Windows 10, the addition of the extra
folder named "OneDrive" in their default Windows Users/Documents folder,
actually changes nothing. As you previously pointed out, when Legacy is
installed to such systems, it merely creates the "Legacy Family Tree" folder
wherever Windows told it was the Users Documents folderwhich now has the
OneDrive name in the path. It makes no difference to Legacy and I've since
found out it hasn't made any difference to other programs that I've
installed.

And as several other users have pointed out, just because their default
Users Documents folder has OneDrive in the path, they do NOT have to
actually use OneDrive. Nothing is automatically uploaded to the cloud unless
the user chooses to run the OneDrive app.

The only real change is that Legacy Support personnel now have to realize
that there are two different file paths that users may have for the files
that Legacy installs into the Users Documents folder. This includes the USR
files, Color Schemes, Dictionaries, etc.

It's all business as usual.


Brian in CA


-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Brian/Support
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 5:50 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] File locations on new installs

Here is an extract from a Microsoft Support Article
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Files-save-to-OneDrive-by-default-i
n-Windows-10-33da0077-770c-4bda-b61e-8c8e8ca70ac7
on how to set your own defaults if you do not want to have all your files
saved to OneDrive by default:

"Use the OneDrive app settings to change where your files are saved by
default.

 In the Notifications area at the bottom of your Windows screen,
right-click the OneDrive icon and click Settings. You might have to click
Show hidden icons to find OneDrive.



 In the Settings box, on the Auto save tab, under Documents and
Pictures, click the list at Documents or Pictures and pick the default save
location you want.

 This PC only - When you create a file, the Documents or Pictures
folder under This PC is the first-choice location offered to save it. The
file is not saved to OneDrive unless you do so separately, and it is
available only on the PC you used to save it.

 OneDrive - When you create a file, the first location offered is
within the Documents or Pictures folder under OneDrive. Because these
folders sync to your PC, files you save there are available on your PC, even
when it's not connected to the Internet. And you can use any device with an
Internet connection to access your files.

Note: No matter which default setting you choose, you still can select the
save location you want each time you save a file. When you click Save for
new files or Save As for existing files, click OneDrive or This PC and then
pick a folder to save your file to."

So yes the change may be done by Windows 10 but the users do still control
their own destiny.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
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Re: [LegacyUG] Cloud Storage

[Paul Gray]

See comments below:

 

 

So, for #1: Dropbox allows two people to work on the file at the same time, but 
whoever closes their file first retains the master name, while for the person 
who closes second Dropbox creates a second file and adds the additional name of 
'Anne's conflicted copy' to the main file name. If this ever occurs, you can 
use Legacy's compare files tool to see any differences between the two files.  
Google Drive doesn't allow two people to have the same file open.  I'm not sure 
how Microsoft OneDrive works.

 

 

 

Might just be terminology, but this is not technically true. Legacy is ALWAYS 
USING THE LOCAL COPY of your data files. If two people are updating Legacy on 
two computers simultaneously, they are both independently updating their own 
local copy of the file. Legacy never reads from nor writes to the cloud based 
copy of the files. Legacy doesn’t even know you are using Dropbox. Once Legacy 
writes some data to the local file, Windows and Dropbox somehow pick up that 
change and send it up to the ‘central cloud copy’ and then down to other linked 
computers. The central cloud copy’s purposes are to 1) be the central clearing 
house to send updates to the linked computers, and 2) act as an offsite file 
backup.

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Media storage

[Paul Gray]

Actually, Dropbox does not require constant internet access. The design of
Dropbox (and other similar services) is that there is a Dropbox folder on
your local computer(s) and an extra copy in the cloud. Legacy (and other
programs as well) always use the local copy of your file. When file updates
are done, those updates are copied up into the cloud either immediately if
you are currently connected to the internet or if not, the next time you
connect. It also copies the updates down to the "other computer", again
either immediately of later, depending upon that computer's connection
status.

 

Paul Gray

 

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of CE WOOD
Sent: March 5, 2016 1:32 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Media storage

 

Which works fine if you always have access to the internet. There are many
places I visit that do not, and many that have such slow speeds that access
would take longer than the trip.


CE

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From: martha...@gmail.com <mailto:martha...@gmail.com> 
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>

Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 17:00:06 +
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Media storage

Good Morning,

One work-around for media storage would be to put them in folder in your
drop box and change the location in Legacy.

That way, they are always accessible. And the db could be synced to the
external hard drive.

 

Martha





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RE: [LegacyUG] Status of TMG importer

[Paul Gray]

One thing to note here. Using Dropbox, or other similar services, is NOT 
working and storing for data file in the cloud. You are only storing a COPY of 
your file on Dropbox. Legacy, and all desktop programs that I am aware of, work 
with a local copy of your data.

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Steve Hayes [mailto:hayes...@telkomsa.net]
Sent: January 22, 2016 8:41 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Status of TMG importer

On 22 Jan 2016 at 6:03, Sherry/Support wrote:

> You can store the Family File in the cloud, but the program itself has
> to be installed under Windows or a Windows emulator.

One way of doing it is by using Dropbox.

You can keep your Legacy data files in a Dropbox directory. I have done this 
with Rootsmagic, where my wife and I access the data files from desktop or 
laptop computers. It is best to turn Bropbox syncing off when actually working 
on the file, and to make sure that one is only working in it on one computer at 
a time.

This would probably work with Legacy v 7.5 or earlier, but would be awkward 
with Legacy 8.x, which has a different default method of storing data files.
As a result of that I transfer the Legacy data from my desktop to my laptop 
with a USB flash drive, and every time I change I have to do the "Restore User 
Defaults" routine. But I still back the data file up to Dropbox.




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RE: [LegacyUG] Windows 10

[Paul Gray]

Here is a previous thread from the archives


http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup%40legacyusers.com/msg43929.html








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RE: [LegacyUG] Back-up's

[Paul Gray]

John,



It may appear that you are accessing data in the cloud, but you are not. 
Legacy, and virtually all Windows programs not specifically designed for cloud 
computing, uses local files. Programs like One Drive keep files on multiple 
computers synced, but you are always using the local copy when you are using 
Legacy.



Paul Gray



From: Hannigan Family Research [mailto:resea...@hannigangenealogy.us]
Sent: May-06-15 7:07 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Back-up's



Yes - there is a folder on my computer - but the data is also in the cloud.  
Since I access the data from the cloud, I am always accessing the most recent 
updated data.

On Wednesday 5 6 2015 9:07 AM, Nancy wrote:

Doesn't it save both to your C drive and OneDrive at the same time? Not sure 
how it works.

Sent from my iPad


On May 6, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Hannigan Family Research 
resea...@hannigangenealogy.us wrote:

Let me weigh in on this discussion. I agree with what everyone has said.  
But Cathy Pinner has hit on an important point.  Using a 'Cloud-based' 
service is very important and very practical.  And it is not just for 
back-ups either.  I have begun using my 'OneDrive' cloud to have my Legacy 
Data stored there.  I have a FREE account and have them set up as a 'Drive' 
on my computer(s) - since I have desktops, notebooks, Windows based tablets. 
 All can access the 'OneDrive' for my Legacy files and that way, no matter 
which device I use, I always access the same file.

Backups are stored there also, so it is easy to get back to data, when needed.

I am sure that GoogleDrive and Dropbox can be used in the same fashion, but my 
personal preference was to begin with 'OneDrive' from Microsoft.ÂÂ

Just my thoughts!

John Hannigan
Houston, Texas

On Tuesday 5 5 2015 11:19 AM, P. Rickert wrote:


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Whenever I close out of Legacy FamilyTree I always do a back-up. Now I have 
over a years worth of zip files on my laptop, for each family I have a file 
for. Do I need to keep all those files, or can I delete all but the most 
current files?

Penny



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RE: [LegacyUG] mapping OneDrive

[Paul Gray]

The concept that using One Drive or Dropbox for your Legacy Family is 
'operating with cloud based storage' is inaccurate. These products have a one 
instance of the file on your local computer, and another instance up in the 
cloud. There will be additional instances on other computers if you have others 
connected to the account.

When you are using Legacy, you are operating on the local file on your PC, and 
the 'cloud copy' is updated subsequent to the local copy. You can continue to 
use Legacy even if you have no live internet connection.

I see absolutely no problem using One Drive for the main family file.

Mike, what do you see as the downside of using One Drive (or it's cousins) as 
the family file location.

Paul Gray



-Original Message-
From: MikeFry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com]
Sent: April-19-15 1:53 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] mapping OneDrive

On 2015/04/19 01:30 AM, Larry Edralin wrote:

 Thank you Brian.  It seems that OneDrive is a better resource for
 backup and not active files.  I probably use it as backup and probably
 use a removable drive for photos to save space on my hard drive.

 I will try the suggestion anyway to see how I like it.

Something I meant to ad in my previous post.

Whilst saying that I thought it bad practice to use the Cloud as a storage 
medium, this should have been directed at not using the Cloud to store your 
Family DataBase file. These online storage facilities are best suited to files 
that do not change very much: such as images. The FDB files can be kept online, 
in a way, simply by making your OneDrive folder the target for Backups. You 
then get a copy of the backup on your local disk and another one replicated in 
the Cloud.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Chasing the market [was: Any Way to Mark a PERSON ...]

[Paul Gray]

John,



Everything you say is spot on. I must admit that my main concern is that Legacy 
is (and I assume they are) spending effort updating the ‘technical platform’ 
that Legacy runs on. We have heard numerous times (including from Legacy) that 
the platform is old technology. For example, that is always brought up in the 
context of adding additional character sets for foreign languages. I would 
think at the present time that is more important than individual feature 
improvements. (Although I do want my personal favorite downloading sources from 
FSFT, if RM can do it, so can Legacy).



Using old technology will eventually make the program unusable on newer  
hardware/operating systems.



Paul Gray



From: John Lisle [mailto:leg...@johnlisle.com]
Sent: April-09-15 12:18 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Chasing the market [was: Any Way to Mark a PERSON ...]



Jay,

Your (and my?) idea of what the market requires may be different from what 
Legacy's management feels is necessary.

Several years ago, an aggressive effort was made to create international 
versions. That added greatly to its market.

L7 added mapping, improved privacy, source writer, and several other features 
that were driven by market needs.

L7.5 added FamilySearch support. Although this was at first needed to support 
their LDS customers, this is now used by many other users now that FamilySearch 
tree is open to all.

L8 added shared events, live Potential Problem Alerts, auto checking for 
duplicates additions, improved media handling, auto date sorting of events and 
children as they are added, etc etc. - all features we use most every day. 
(Maybe not Shared events for TNG users... :-))

-- all of these were driven by serious requests from the user base and from 
competitive pressures. That is definition of market driven.

I know that many of the changes we want require some major work on the Legacy 
infrastructure. That is happening.

What you and I whine about most often are the small 10 cent changes that could 
make our lives easier as we go about our business.

I would like to see an L8.1 that picks up a number of these changes.

But, there are some changes, like the same-sex marriage one, that seems to need 
to have certain major infrastructure work done first.

Shared events took years to come to fruition. Legacy wanted to do it right, 
and, mostly, I think they have.

My hallucination is that when they can do same-sex relationships, it will be 
done in a classy manner. And most of us will have so few of them in our family 
files that it will take just hours to make what we have right.

john.

At 10:10 PM 4/8/2015, Jay Wilpolt wrote:



Sorry Tessa,

IF Legacy paid attention to the market and the needs of its customers they 
would have made many of the suggested changes already

Face the facts ..they dont want to and I doubt they ever will



On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Tessa Keough murke...@gmail.com wrote:

I like Legacy and hope that they continue to pay attention to the

market and the needs of their customers because, when all is said and

done, it is a business that provides a product to the public.

Whether it is the administrators or the programmers - ease of use,

keeping up with the competition, offering useful and necessary

features, and updates that take care of previous bugs and don't add

new ones - is what it is all about. I am sure these companies all

watch each other and then make decisions based on where they want

their product to go in the future. Sadly we have seen promising

programs fall by the wayside and others never take off if they can't

satisfy their customer base.

I am under the impression (don't know why) that it is a small group

but they are involved in all aspects. It would be interesting to know

more and I would guess those who have been on the cruises might have a

better idea of the players and their attitudes/capabilities.

Tessa

Tessa Keough

Guild of One-Name Studies, Keough (Keogh, Kough  Kehoe) Registered ONS

Legacy Virtual Users' Group Community on Google+

Society for One-Place Studies, Plate Cove East, Newfoundland



On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot

 br...@the-lightfoots.com mailto:br...@the-lightfoots.com  wrote:

 I was wondering when somebody was going to mention this.  And given the fact 
 that the programmers are part of the executive management team, I'd say the 
 chance of a major change to this aspect of relationships is on par with the 
 drought in California ending tomorrow.  (I always thought that Millennia 
 used job-shop or contract programmers. Wonder when that changed?)



 Brian in CA



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Re: [LegacyUG] Cloud for backups etc

[Paul Gray]

Wendy,

To solve the problem of slightly different paths to the media from one computer 
to another I put the dropbox folder in my root directory I.E. C:\Dropbox on 
both computers.

Actually, that was in the past when I had two computers. Now I only have one so 
I just use dropbox for the backups as you have already mentioned.

But I still have my dropbox folder right up in the root directory.

Paul Gray

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 On Apr 2, 2015, at 5:37 PM, Wendy Howard wendy.how...@gmail.com wrote:

 I pay Dropbox for extra storage space, and keep everything of value to
 me in the Dropbox folder. This includes all my Legacy data files, and
 their backups (as I have space to spare, currently using 92.6GB of the
 1.02TB allocated to me).

 Before I paid Dropbox for the extra space, I used to keep the Legacy
 backups in Dropbox, and if I needed to open my Legacy file on another
 computer (other than my main one) I would restore the latest backup.

 Legacy remembers where you put your backups last, and will put the next
 one there unless you tell it to put it somewhere else, so once you've
 set that you don't have to remember each time.

 There could be a small problem with the media, switching between two
 computers this way, because the path name stored in Legacy would have to
 be exactly the same on both machines to work without a hitch. This means
 the Windows user-name has to be the same, and the Dropbox folder located
 in the same place on both machines, for it to work seamlessly. But if
 they're not, it should not take long to point Legacy on the second
 machine to where your media are kept. I see this as a minor distraction,
 if it were something I had to deal to maybe twice a year when I switched
 locations, assuming there's only one computer used at each end.

 The other point to remember is to only open your Legacy file in one
 place at a time. If you had two computers in the same house with the
 same Dropbox account, it might be tempting to open the same Legacy file
 on both at the same time - or close it on one, then open it on the other
 before Dropbox has had time to synchronise. It won't like that, so a
 little patience may be needed.

 You can still access your files if the internet goes down, as Dropbox
 puts a copy on the computer's hard drive. But if you delete a file on
 one, it will disappear from any other computer that has the same folder
 on it when it synchronises there.

 Hope this helps. :-)

 Wendy

 Norman Weston wrote on 2/04/2015 23:32:
 After several years away from family history I have returned to it to
 see if there is anything new to discover.
 After a few computer hard drive deaths over the years, I am so glad
 that I had backed up both my family file and media to my dropbox
 account. I live part of the year in one country and part in another
 and I have my Legacy Family Tree on several computers. At present if I
 make some changes on one computer I would need to backup my file plus
 its media and restore them on the other to keep it current. If I fail
 to do this each and every time I make changes, I could overwrite
 something I had changed previously! So my question is, has anyone ever
 mentioned or thought about any sort of Legacy auto backup facility to
 cloud in order that nothing is ever lost? Apologies if this has been
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RE: [LegacyUG] Mass update surnames

[Paul Gray]

Is possible that Baker and Comstock have an AKA with UNKNOWN? Just a stab in 
the dark..



Paul Gray



From: Gene Wheeler [mailto:bridge...@gmail.com]
Sent: March-06-15 1:28 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mass update surnames



Mike,



What I mean is that, when I generate a surname list showing only the surname 
UNKNOWN, there will be a long list of people in the surname list that follow 
the following format:



UNKNOWN, John Thomas

UNKNOWN, Michael James

etc.

etc.



Then in addition to these persons with unknown surnames, there will be a few 
people with KNOWN surnames and KNOWN given names, in alphabetical order, some 
before the UNKNOWN surnames and some after the UNKNOWN surnames.  In my case, 
there are something like 354 people with surnames listed as UNKNOWN, and three 
people listed before them alphabetically: e.g.:



BAKER, Susan A.

COMSTOCK, Mary Elizabeth

THOMAS, Edward

UNKNOWN, John Thomas

UNKNOWN, Michael James

etc.

etc.



Hope this explains what is happening.



Gen



On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 1:04 AM, MikeFry emjay...@gmail.com wrote:

On 2015/03/06 01:19 AM, Gene Wheeler wrote:
 However, when I list them all, there are
 several surnames other than UNKNOWN that appear on the list.  I checked each
 of the associated individual records and could find nothing unusual about 
 them.
 Any idea what is happening here?

You'll have to be a bit more explicit with the substance of your query.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Mass update surnames

[Paul Gray]

Or, that Baker and Comstock are married surnames (they are both female) and 
UNKNOWN the maiden surname?



Paul Gray



From: Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com]
Sent: March-06-15 1:40 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Mass update surnames



Is possible that Baker and Comstock have an AKA with UNKNOWN? Just a stab in 
the dark..



Paul Gray



From: Gene Wheeler [mailto:bridge...@gmail.com]
Sent: March-06-15 1:28 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mass update surnames



Mike,



What I mean is that, when I generate a surname list showing only the surname 
UNKNOWN, there will be a long list of people in the surname list that follow 
the following format:



UNKNOWN, John Thomas

UNKNOWN, Michael James

etc.

etc.



Then in addition to these persons with unknown surnames, there will be a few 
people with KNOWN surnames and KNOWN given names, in alphabetical order, some 
before the UNKNOWN surnames and some after the UNKNOWN surnames.  In my case, 
there are something like 354 people with surnames listed as UNKNOWN, and three 
people listed before them alphabetically: e.g.:



BAKER, Susan A.

COMSTOCK, Mary Elizabeth

THOMAS, Edward

UNKNOWN, John Thomas

UNKNOWN, Michael James

etc.

etc.



Hope this explains what is happening.



Gen



On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 1:04 AM, MikeFry emjay...@gmail.com wrote:

On 2015/03/06 01:19 AM, Gene Wheeler wrote:
 However, when I list them all, there are
 several surnames other than UNKNOWN that appear on the list.  I checked each
 of the associated individual records and could find nothing unusual about 
 them.
 Any idea what is happening here?

You'll have to be a bit more explicit with the substance of your query.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Sound Media

[Paul Gray]

Hi Anne,



Could you expand on what you mean by “recognised”?



Is it:



1)  When you go to Add Media – Video it won’t let you create a link to the 
.m4a file at all?

2)  Once linked, it won’t let you play the file.



There are different solutions depending upon whether the issue is 1 or 2 (or 
something else).



Paul Gray





From: Anne Picketts [mailto:waipuc...@gmail.com]
Sent: March-01-15 7:37 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sound Media



I have 2 *.m4a MPEG Audio files which Legacy won't recognise.  Can they be 
converted to any other type so that they will be recognised.



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Phone:  09 432-0045; Mobile:  021 252 1013

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RE: [LegacyUG] Missing Marriage Notes in Export

[Paul Gray]

Brian,



Given that what is bouncing is a post (being sent back to the poster), is it 
not the Legacy server that is doing the bouncing, not Rogers.com?



Paul Gray



From: Brian L. Lightfoot [mailto:br...@the-lightfoots.com]
Sent: February-21-15 4:43 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Missing Marriage Notes in Export



Your greylisting has nothing to do with this forum or the servers upon which it 
resides. Greylisting is an anti-spam technique implemented by your email 
servers at rogers.com.  When the servers get a message from a source that they 
don’t recognize, they bounce it back to the sender. Not necessarily because its 
spam but with an attitude of we’ll just make sure. A legit sending server will 
try again whereas most spam messages don’t bother. You may want to talk to a 
high level technician at rogers.com about fixing the problem but good luck in 
just getting past the receptionist. If the problems with greylisting continue, 
consider changing ISPs.



Brian in CA





From: Ward Walker [mailto:wnkwal...@rogers.com]
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 1:06 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Missing Marriage Notes in Export



Trying again, after another greylisting...







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RE: [LegacyUG] Missing Marriage Notes in Export

[Paul Gray]

Just to clarify



Were the missing entries in the GEDCOM export and failed to import to the new 
file, or were they not in the export to begin with?



Paul Gray



From: Ward Walker [mailto:wnkwal...@rogers.com]
Sent: February-20-15 4:03 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Missing Marriage Notes in Export



I discovered a marriage note missing from a Gedcom 5.5 export from Legacy, so I 
did some searching. I found that there were 71 individuals in my source family 
file who were tagged for this export and who had marriage notes. The exported 
gedcom, once re-imported to Legacy, only had 17 individuals with marriage notes.



For the missing cases, both husband and wife were tagged and exported. Other 
marriage details were exported. I haven’t noticed any other types of notes 
missing.



Any ideas?



I’m using version 8.0.0.454.



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RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures

[Paul Gray]

I wasn’t familiar with Tribal Pages so I went to their website and forum. See 
the  link below for a posting that seems to address your question.



The short answer appears to be ‘No’. The posting is referring to a ‘Backup 
GEDCOM’ and seems to imply that the Tribal Pages GEDCOM does not accommodate 
pictures. That makes sense because all a GEDCOM does for pictures is provide a 
link to the picture, and that picture is on their site. If it is on your 
computer as well (Legacy, and most desktop programs require the picture to be 
on your local computer) , Tribal Pages doesn’t know where it is so it could not 
include it their GEDCOM.



http://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/forum?f=1 
http://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/forum?f=1v=1mid=77550rid=77530 
v=1mid=77550rid=77530



Legacy should be able to import the GEDCOM assuming it’s in the proper format, 
but I think the pictures need to be linked manually to the copy you have on 
your own computer. If the pictures are only stored online, it would be a 
separate process to download them from TP and I can’t answer how that would be 
done.



But welcome to Legacy! I think you have some conversion challenges, but you 
will be quite happy (I hope) with Legacy when you complete the conversion.



Paul Gray



From: Lynne Crowley [mailto:lynne.crow...@gmail.com]
Sent: February-19-15 11:05 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Pictures



Hi,
I'd like to use Legacy and bring all my information over from Tribal Pages.  
Question is will my pictures also transfer?

Thanks










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RE: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug

[Paul Gray]

Brian,

Very interesting analysis!

In the end, I think the only important thing is to figure out how V8 should 
behave, as 7.5 will not be changed.

I think as much as possible, Cancel should operate consistently across all 
Legacy screens, same for pressing the red 'X'. What might be more difficult is 
for users to agree on what those standards should be.

My vote is that 'Cancel should close the window and not save any data. To me, 
clicking 'Cancel' is the opposite of 'Save' and the user has indicated their 
intention.

I think there should be a warning message when clicking the red X as there is 
more possibility of that being 'accidental'.

Just my two cents

Paul Gray


-Original Message-
From: Brian L. Lightfoot [mailto:br...@the-lightfoots.com]
Sent: February-12-15 9:02 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug

I just compared v7.5 to v8 and there ARE some striking inconsistencies.

It also makes a difference whether you are entering MARRIAGE notes or 
INDIVIDUAL notes. Legacy is not consistent in how it handles either one.

And then, it makes a difference whether you hit the CANCEL button or X-Out of 
the window. Once again, Legacy is not consistent in how it handles either one.

For example, in v7.5, while entering either Individual general or Marriage 
notes, if you hit CANCEL after entering some text, you will get a warning about 
Abandoning Changes which is the way you'd expect or at least prefer a program 
to behave.

However, if you just X-out after entering some text in v7.5, the window closes 
as expected without warning but the text is saved anyhow, something you'd not 
expect to happen.

Using v8, while entering Individual General Notes, if you hit CANCEL, there is 
no warning about Abandoning Changes. The window closes and the text is lost. I 
suppose most would argue that is what CANCEL means but notice the Warning 
message prevalent in v7.5 is no longer brought up in v8. Entering text and then 
X-Out of the window will close the window and the text is lost without any 
warning. Also note that this is different than v7.5 in that the text is no 
longer saved.

Using v8 and entering text in a Marriage window, if you hit CANCEL, you will 
get a warning about Abandoning Changes.

If you just X-Out of the Marriage window in v8, its similar to v7.5 in that the 
window closes as expected without any additional warnings but the text is saved 
anyhow.

It's almost as if 3 different programmers handled the code here: one for the 
Notes windows, a second for the CANCEL button, and a third for the X-Out 
gadget. But the bottom line is simple: if you enter any text and want to keep 
it, then hit the SAVE button which common sense dictates. Hitting any other 
button or gadget is a crap-shoot.


Brian in CA



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Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 5:58 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] General Notes - Another bug

On 2015/02/12 03:46 PM, Pierre Simoneau wrote:
 In version 7.5 there was a warning.


I get the warning in 8.0!

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RE: [LegacyUG] Downloading From FamilySearch Family Tree

[Paul Gray]

When I try Download my family from FamilySearch I just get the screen to 
start a new family file by entering data manually i.e. the same screen as the 
first button Start a New Family File

It brings up the My information is not in another genealogy program screen.

I do have Family Search Integration turned on.

Paul Gray

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: February-07-15 9:33 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Downloading From FamilySearch Family Tree

File  New File will present you with several options (the same as when you 
first start Legacy). One of those is to download from FamilySearch Family Tree.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 07/02/2015 10:13 PM, Joe Gammon wrote:
 2/7/15

 How do you download from FamilySearch Family Tree to start a new file
 AFTER the first time you open Legacy?  It’s an option on the Legacy
 Guided Setup screen, but I don’t see a way to do that for subsequent
 new files that are started up.

 Thanks,

 Joe Gammon



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RE: [LegacyUG] Downloading From FamilySearch Family Tree

[Paul Gray]

Thanks, Brian. I thought I was going crazy. By the way, I am using version 459 
if that helps.

Paul Gray

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: February-08-15 2:38 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Downloading From FamilySearch Family Tree

OK, I think there is a BUG. I was using the test version of the software when 
replying earlier. When I use the publicly released version the wrong screen is 
opened by that version.

In the test version I was using the screen that opens does allow me to choose 
to download from FS-FT.

I will have to submit a problem report to have this fixed.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 08/02/2015 3:38 PM, Paul Gray wrote:
 Thanks, Brian,

 I am still having difficulty.

 I get the setup wizard to open. No problem so far.

 In the top section, it shows me existing family files and asks if I want to 
 open one of them. I don't, so I go down to Other Choices and click on 
 Download my family from Family Search. That opens up the screen I referred 
 to earlier My information is in another Genealogy program My options are 
 'No Thanks' which just creates an empty file, or 'Yes, please' which gives a 
 wizard to enter myself, spouse if applicable, and parents of both. As far as 
 I can see there is no option related to Family Search.

 What am I missing?


 Paul Gray


 -Original Message-
 From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
 Sent: February-08-15 12:15 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Downloading From FamilySearch Family Tree

 I thought last night there was a second setting that affects what you see 
 starting a new file. It was late, I was making a last check before going to 
 bed and I did not remember where to find it and did not try everywhere before 
 sending my reply.

 Found it today!
 Go to Options  Customize  Other
 Section 12.5 Messages boxes, click the button for reminder messages.
 On the Prompts and Reminders tab click one of these two options:
 Prompt to use the Guided setup wizard when starting a new file; or Open the 
 setup wizard automatically.

 My option was set to open the wizard automatically and that is why I got the 
 same options as the first time you use Legacy. If you select the prompt 
 option you will be asked and can elect to use or not use the setup wizard 
 each time.

 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


 On 08/02/2015 11:29 AM, Paul Gray wrote:
 When I try Download my family from FamilySearch I just get the screen to 
 start a new family file by entering data manually i.e. the same screen as 
 the first button Start a New Family File

 It brings up the My information is not in another genealogy program screen.

 I do have Family Search Integration turned on.

 Paul Gray

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
 Sent: February-07-15 9:33 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Downloading From FamilySearch Family Tree

 File  New File will present you with several options (the same as when you 
 first start Legacy). One of those is to download from FamilySearch Family 
 Tree.

 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com




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RE: [LegacyUG] Downloading From FamilySearch Family Tree

[Paul Gray]

Thanks, Brian,

I am still having difficulty.

I get the setup wizard to open. No problem so far.

In the top section, it shows me existing family files and asks if I want to 
open one of them. I don't, so I go down to Other Choices and click on 
Download my family from Family Search. That opens up the screen I referred to 
earlier My information is in another Genealogy program My options are 'No 
Thanks' which just creates an empty file, or 'Yes, please' which gives a wizard 
to enter myself, spouse if applicable, and parents of both. As far as I can see 
there is no option related to Family Search.

What am I missing?


Paul Gray


-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: February-08-15 12:15 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Downloading From FamilySearch Family Tree

I thought last night there was a second setting that affects what you see 
starting a new file. It was late, I was making a last check before going to bed 
and I did not remember where to find it and did not try everywhere before 
sending my reply.

Found it today!
Go to Options  Customize  Other
Section 12.5 Messages boxes, click the button for reminder messages.
On the Prompts and Reminders tab click one of these two options:
Prompt to use the Guided setup wizard when starting a new file; or Open the 
setup wizard automatically.

My option was set to open the wizard automatically and that is why I got the 
same options as the first time you use Legacy. If you select the prompt option 
you will be asked and can elect to use or not use the setup wizard each time.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


On 08/02/2015 11:29 AM, Paul Gray wrote:
 When I try Download my family from FamilySearch I just get the screen to 
 start a new family file by entering data manually i.e. the same screen as the 
 first button Start a New Family File

 It brings up the My information is not in another genealogy program screen.

 I do have Family Search Integration turned on.

 Paul Gray

 -Original Message-
 From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
 Sent: February-07-15 9:33 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Downloading From FamilySearch Family Tree

 File  New File will present you with several options (the same as when you 
 first start Legacy). One of those is to download from FamilySearch Family 
 Tree.

 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com




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RE: [LegacyUG] RE: My Legacy Test Message

[Paul Gray]

Ward,

Yes, there is a problem with the 'half subscribed' state, but unfortunately 
it's indistinguishable (on our end) from the situation where a spam filter or 
ISP is blocking the messages. And the mailing list provider always seem to 
assume that it's an ISP problem until one complains multiple times.

I am having the same problem right now over on the LegacyFS list.

Subscribed, got the email back, clicked on the link, system said I was 
subscribed. Nothing came through, after a while sent a test message and it 
never appeared. One good Samaritan send me a personal email saying my messages 
were indeed getting through.

Opened a support ticket. Legacy requested the 'programmers' (I assume this 
really meant the mailing list provider) to manually subscribe me. They looked 
at the system and saw my incoming messages and didn't re-subscribe me, they 
said the problem was my ISP. Legacy support has requested a second time to have 
me manually subscribed.

I checked my spam settings and spam folder before I contacted anyone.

They said sometimes ISPs block certain domains. Well, I have no problem with 
the 'regular' user list, and both it and the 'FS' group are at LegacyUsers.com.

Very frustrated, but what more can I do?

Maybe sometime this week

Paul Gray





-Original Message-
From: Ward Walker [mailto:wnkwal...@rogers.com]
Sent: January-26-15 11:59 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] RE: My Legacy Test Message

We are lumping several different problems together. The one that stands out, to 
me, is when a person subscribes, or resubscribes after a vacation, and end up 
in a half-subscribed state. That is, they can post, but not receive list 
messages. This does not involve spam filters, etc. This is fixed, almost 
always, by Legacy Support doing something to manually correct the subscription. 
This problem is the one that most irritates the rest of the LUG subscribers, 
since we have a busy list and extra 'noise' is not welcome.
This problem, alone, is sufficient reason, after all these years, for Millennia 
to finally switch to a better list serve vendor.

   Ward

-Original Message-
From: Brian L. Lightfoot
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 12:53 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] RE: My Legacy Test Message

I think there might be a problem with trying to use the RootsWeb list servers 
offered through Ancestry and that is our messages are mostly not related to 
genealogical research but rather to a specific program utilization, namely 
Legacy. And that means our messages are of no interest to the general public 
looking for some family information. I doubt if Ancestry would allow Millennia 
to set up shop at their expense.

And for what it's worth, I have never had a problem with receiving messages.
My initial subscription went as planned and to my knowledge I've never had a 
problem with message coming through. So the problem is not with the list server 
but rather with how other email servers are seeing the messages generated by 
the list server. Some may have it black flagged while others may have an 
overzealous spam setting gobbling up messages like a black hole.
The list server itself may not be without fault though because there are things 
it (or the people behind it) can do to configure itself to be web friendly to 
all other devices on the web. The secret to doing that is above my pay grade.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Event Addresses - PLUS A MUCH MORE SERIOUS ISSUE

[Paul Gray]

Hello Arthur,

I have Roots Magic in addition to Legacy, and I am trying to recreate the 
issue. But I need to verify a few things.

In your examples, where exactly in Roots Magic were you storing the two values 
'Alexandra Nursing Home' and '41 Carey Street'? Was it in 'Place Details' 
immediately under 'Place' on the edit event screen?

Once imported in Legacy, where are you seeing those values? Is it in the 
address screen? Which fields have which value? I assume they are in (or spread 
across) Name, Sort String, and Line 1 of address. Particularly interested in 
n/a 41 Carey Street is the n/a and Carey street in one field or two?

Paul Gray









-Original Message-
From: Arthur  Pauline Kennedy [mailto:ken...@paxnet.co.uk]
Sent: January-17-15 11:11 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Addresses - PLUS A MUCH MORE SERIOUS ISSUE

If what you say is correct, then perhaps I should have been asking why some of 
the addresses *don't* have n/a prefixed, rather than why some of them *do*.

You'll see from the GEDCOM extracts that I provided before that both addresses 
have a PLAC tag followed by a single ADDR tag with no further details. One 
ended up with the n/a and one didn't. However, this file that I imported 
doesn't in fact contain any _NAME tags at all, so presumably the discrepancy is 
down to something that Legacy has done.
(Looking at the whole of my file, Legacy reports that I have 150 event 
addresses, and on a quick count, it appears that 39 have had n/a
added, leaving 111 that haven't.)

Looking into this further, I decided to export a GEDCOM file from Legacy and 
compare it with the one I had imported, and I found that in some places the 
events and their addresses had indeed been changed. Using the events I quoted 
before, I found:

original version:
1 DEAT
2 DATE 22 FEB 1952
2 PLAC Harrogate, WRY
2 ADDR Alexandra Nursing Home
2 SOUR @S171@
3 _TMPLT
4 FIELD
5 NAME Page

changed to:
1 DEAT
2 DATE 22 Feb 1952
2 PLAC Harrogate, WRY
2 SOUR @S79@
2 ADDR Alexandra Nursing Home
3 _NAME Alexandra Nursing Home

This one looks OK in Legacy, but see my point 2 below on use of the _NAME tag. 
(And I presume the sources have been re-numbered.)

Now the second one:

original version:
1 CENS
2 DATE 6 APR 1891
2 PLAC Middlesbrough, NRY
2 ADDR 41 Carey Street
2 NOTE Age 7, born Middlesbrough; Scholar.
2 SOUR @S12@
3 PAGE RG12/4014 fo27 p5
3 _TMPLT
4 FIELD
5 NAME Page
5 VALUE RG12/4014 fo27 p5

changed to:
1 CENS
2 DATE 6 Apr 1891
2 PLAC Middlesbrough, NRY
2 ADDR n/a
3 CONT 41 Carey Street
3 _NAME n/a
3 ADR1 41 Carey Street

This raises a number of questions/issues:
1. I still don't understand why one address was changed and not the other.
2. On my reading of the GEDCOM standards_NAME tag is a non-strict part of the 
ADDR definition; it therefore concerns me a little that Legacy should be using 
it in an exported .ged file, and I'd be even more concerned if it were 
suggested that its use was required in any .ged file that was imported into 
Legacy.

However, manually editing 39 addresses pales into insignificance compared to 
what I have now discovered:
3. With the second event quoted here, as well as the address being changed, the 
Event Notes and Source have totally disappeared. They are simply not there, 
either in the main Legacy database or the GEDCOM it exported.

I use Event Notes extensively, and of course Sources, and this loss is 
catastrophic. As far as I am concerned, this is a deal-breaker. I have already 
spent a long time trying to understand and deal with issues that I have come 
across, and sorting this one out is more than I can contemplate.

In case this is something that can be sorted promptly I shan't do anything 
hasty, and will wait for a response before uninstalling Legacy.

Thank you to those who have tried to help me,

Arthur


On 17/01/2015 02:48, Sherry/Support wrote:
 1 ADDR Lillie Alice Taylor
 2 CONT 124 S. Main
 2 CONT Dillon, MT 59725 USA
 2 _NAME Lillie Alice Taylor
 2 _SORT Lillie Alice Taylor
 2 ADR1 124 S. Main
 2 CITY Dillon,
 2 STAE MT
 2 POST 59725
 2 CTRY USA

 Ensures that there is a name for the individual's address.

 For a Source Repository:

 0 @R37@ REPO
 1 NAME Eastern Arizona Courier
 1 ADDR Eastern Arizona Courier
 2 CONT 301 E. Hwy 70
 2 CONT PO Box N
 2 CONT Safford, AZ 85548-2010
 2 _NAME Eastern Arizona Courier
 2 _SORT Eastern Arizona Courier
 2 ADR1 301 E. Hwy 70
 2 ADR2 PO Box N
 2 CITY Safford
 2 STAE AZ
 2 POST 85548-2010
 1 PHON (520) 428-2560
 1 emaileacour...@aepnet.com
 1 _URLhttp://www.eacourier.com/

 And for an Event address

 2 ADDR Minneapolis City Cemetery
 3 CONT 123 Main Street
 3 CONT Minneapolis, Minnesota
 3 _NAME Minneapolis Cemetery
 3 ADR1 123 Main Street
 3 CITY Minneapolis
 3 STAE Minnesota


 Note that all three have a name assigned to the cemetery. With a name,
 then it would show as n/a

 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree


 On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:05 AM

RE: [LegacyUG] Event Addresses - PLUS A MUCH MORE SERIOUS ISSUE

[Paul Gray]

Hello again Arthur,


No need to answer the questions. I was able to recreate your scenario.

In my test scenario..

In the Alexandra Nursing Home record, it put the value in the Legacy 'Address 
Name' field at the very top of the address screen. The 'Address' field (which 
appears to be designed for a street address) is blank.

In the 41 Carey Street example, it recognized it as a street address and put it 
in the 'Address' field. Every record needs an 'Address Name', so it stuck in 
n/a.

This kind of issue (I hesitate to call it a problem, it's certainly not a bug) 
is simply the result of different database designs between two different 
programs. Roots Magic crams the 'address' in one field, Legacy has separate 
fields for the 'Name' and the 'Street' should you choose to use them. One could 
imagine a scenario where the Alexandra Nursing Home is at 41 Carey Street.  In 
Roots Magic, you would put Alexandra Nursing Home, 41 Carey Street in Place 
Details, in Legacy you would put Alexandra Nursing Home in Address Name, and 
41 Carey Street in 'Address'. Neither is right or wrong, they are just 
different.

It looks to me like the Legacy Gedcom import tries to interpret the single ADDR 
tag as either a 'name' or a true 'street address' and put the value in what it 
considers the most appropriate field within it's data structure.

Paul Gray




-Original Message-
From: Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com]
Sent: January-18-15 12:06 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Event Addresses - PLUS A MUCH MORE SERIOUS ISSUE

Hello Arthur,

I have Roots Magic in addition to Legacy, and I am trying to recreate the 
issue. But I need to verify a few things.

In your examples, where exactly in Roots Magic were you storing the two values 
'Alexandra Nursing Home' and '41 Carey Street'? Was it in 'Place Details' 
immediately under 'Place' on the edit event screen?

Once imported in Legacy, where are you seeing those values? Is it in the 
address screen? Which fields have which value? I assume they are in (or spread 
across) Name, Sort String, and Line 1 of address. Particularly interested in 
n/a 41 Carey Street is the n/a and Carey street in one field or two?

Paul Gray









-Original Message-
From: Arthur  Pauline Kennedy [mailto:ken...@paxnet.co.uk]
Sent: January-17-15 11:11 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Addresses - PLUS A MUCH MORE SERIOUS ISSUE

If what you say is correct, then perhaps I should have been asking why some of 
the addresses *don't* have n/a prefixed, rather than why some of them *do*.

You'll see from the GEDCOM extracts that I provided before that both addresses 
have a PLAC tag followed by a single ADDR tag with no further details. One 
ended up with the n/a and one didn't. However, this file that I imported 
doesn't in fact contain any _NAME tags at all, so presumably the discrepancy is 
down to something that Legacy has done.
(Looking at the whole of my file, Legacy reports that I have 150 event 
addresses, and on a quick count, it appears that 39 have had n/a
added, leaving 111 that haven't.)

Looking into this further, I decided to export a GEDCOM file from Legacy and 
compare it with the one I had imported, and I found that in some places the 
events and their addresses had indeed been changed. Using the events I quoted 
before, I found:

original version:
1 DEAT
2 DATE 22 FEB 1952
2 PLAC Harrogate, WRY
2 ADDR Alexandra Nursing Home
2 SOUR @S171@
3 _TMPLT
4 FIELD
5 NAME Page

changed to:
1 DEAT
2 DATE 22 Feb 1952
2 PLAC Harrogate, WRY
2 SOUR @S79@
2 ADDR Alexandra Nursing Home
3 _NAME Alexandra Nursing Home

This one looks OK in Legacy, but see my point 2 below on use of the _NAME tag. 
(And I presume the sources have been re-numbered.)

Now the second one:

original version:
1 CENS
2 DATE 6 APR 1891
2 PLAC Middlesbrough, NRY
2 ADDR 41 Carey Street
2 NOTE Age 7, born Middlesbrough; Scholar.
2 SOUR @S12@
3 PAGE RG12/4014 fo27 p5
3 _TMPLT
4 FIELD
5 NAME Page
5 VALUE RG12/4014 fo27 p5

changed to:
1 CENS
2 DATE 6 Apr 1891
2 PLAC Middlesbrough, NRY
2 ADDR n/a
3 CONT 41 Carey Street
3 _NAME n/a
3 ADR1 41 Carey Street

This raises a number of questions/issues:
1. I still don't understand why one address was changed and not the other.
2. On my reading of the GEDCOM standards_NAME tag is a non-strict part of the 
ADDR definition; it therefore concerns me a little that Legacy should be using 
it in an exported .ged file, and I'd be even more concerned if it were 
suggested that its use was required in any .ged file that was imported into 
Legacy.

However, manually editing 39 addresses pales into insignificance compared to 
what I have now discovered:
3. With the second event quoted here, as well as the address being changed, the 
Event Notes and Source have totally disappeared. They are simply not there, 
either in the main Legacy database or the GEDCOM it exported.

I use Event Notes extensively

RE: [LegacyUG] Update Problem

[Paul Gray]

Bobby,



No, I don't think that should be happening.



After the update, what path is in 6.2? From your note, I assume that pre-update 
in your Smith family file, 6.2 said C:.Media/Smith. What does it say 
immediately post update? And, then do I understand that in order to 'find' your 
media again, all you need to do is update 6.2, you don't need to do any 
relinking?



I always thought that 6.2 had absolutely nothing to do with existing links. The 
only time I thought it mattered was 1) when you are adding new media it would 
send you to that folder first to look for the media item (although you navigate 
to any other folder once in the add media dialogue), or if you were using the 
media re-linker (although I will say nothing about that because I have never 
used it).





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Sent: December-05-14 8:44 AM
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Update Problem



I have a problem with updates.  Every time I do an update my media are all 
missing.  I have to go to 6.2 and reset my default path for each of my family 
files.  I choose to put my media for each family file into a subfolder under 
media with the same name as the family file they belong to.

Example my Smith family file would go in C:.Media/Smith.

My Johnson would go into C:.Media/Johnson.  6.2 is a

(ff) and not (gbl).  Should this be happening?

Bobby











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RE: [LegacyUG] Update Problem

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Hi again Bobby,



It’s interesting that your system behaves differently than mine. In your case, 
the value in 6.2 is changed to a new value, in mine the value (which is not the 
default) remains as previously set. (This is what you want as well, you are 
quite happy to retain your 6.2 settings).



I’m wondering if the reason might be how the update is done. I am doing it from 
the “Legacy Home” tab updates box on the right where it shows you installed 
version, current version and gives you the option to update. Is that how you 
are updating, or are you doing it some other way? It’s pure speculation, but 
can’t one download the update from Legacy’s website and then install. Maybe 
that method does more a ‘basic’ or “clean” install and sets parameters such as 
6.2 to defaults?



Paul







From: Bobby Johnson [mailto:b...@brmemc.net]
Sent: December-05-14 11:31 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Update Problem



Michelle and Paul,

I have my default media file paths set as indicated in my email and as Paul has 
surmised. Immediately upon update the/Smith and the/Johnson in the family files 
is missing and ends up with media/. It seems that when I update the default 
path to my media is reset to the installation default. I don't believe this 
should happen since 6.2 has the default path labeled as a family file (FF). 
That is why I have the/Smith and/Johnson etc. added to the end of the default 
path setting. And Paul you are correct, the only thing I need to do is to reset 
the default path after upgrading. Not that big a problem but I don't believe it 
should be happening this way.



If I left the media path set as the default when installed and linked all the 
media using that as the default I'm sure that my media would be there after 
updating even though they are in subfolders. However there are places within 
legacy that uses the default path to find your media files. For example, when I 
need to cite a source and click on the cite a source button, legacy opens 
the windows browser to the default path and makes it easier to find your master 
sources. So you wind up with a choice of relinking your media after each update 
or living with additional steps to find your sources when working with them.



Thanks for responding.

Bobby





Bobby,



No, I don't think that should be happening.



After the update, what path is in 6.2? From your note, I assume that pre-update 
in your Smith family file, 6.2 said C:.Media/Smith. What does it say 
immediately post update? And, then do I understand that in order to 'find' your 
media again, all you need to do is update 6.2, you don't need to do any 
relinking?



I always thought that 6.2 had absolutely nothing to do with existing links. The 
only time I thought it mattered was 1) when you are adding new media it would 
send you to that folder first to look for the media item (although you navigate 
to any other folder once in the add media dialogue), or if you were using the 
media re-linker (although I will say nothing about that because I have never 
used it).





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RE: [LegacyUG] Dropbox / Legacy problem

[Paul Gray]

Bruce,



Your solution is what I did as well. I installed Dropbox on both computers 
right in the root directory (C:\Dropbox). Any time you have a path in the 
‘user’ area such as My Documents, more often than not the full path will be 
different on the two machines.



I don’t remember what the Dropbox install default path is, but I suspect it is 
‘My Documents’.



Paul Gray



From: Bruce Jones [mailto:juicebo...@gmail.com]
Sent: November-12-14 1:26 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Dropbox / Legacy problem



I had this same problem when I updated one computer to a different operating 
system (from Windows XP to Windows 7).

I discovered the problem was that the PATH name was now different that the 
other computer.

I moved the dropbox folder so the PATH to it was the same on both computers, 
and that solved the problem.

Another poster suggested a setting in Legacy 8, but I haven't tried that as I 
solved my problem by moving the dropbox folder so the PATH was the same on both 
computers.



On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Ron Goodwin rong1...@gmail.com wrote:

I have decided to use Dropbox for syncing my two computers.

For years (I now don't want to change) I have kept all my family files in a
folder called MY GENEALOGY and then in sub-folders under each family name
and using WINDOWS 7.

They were in C:\users\Ron's Office\My Genealogy\(sub folders)

I moved this folder to my Dropbox folder: C:\users\Ron's Office\Dropbox\My
Genealogy\(sub folders)

And as I expected the link to all my pictures, etc in Legacy are broken.

I tried using Legacy Media Relinker and while is searches my C:\ drive it
doesn't search my new Dropbox folder.

I am able to relink them manually, one at a time, but with close to a
thousand files this is very time consuming.

I have searched the Legacy User Group archives but haven't found a solution
to my problem.

Does anyone have a solution; what am I doing wrong?

Thanks
Ron
Ottawa, Canada








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[LegacyUG] Test Only

[Paul Gray]

Testing to see if my re-subscription was successful, after mysteriously being 
unsubscribed.

Wasn't a spam thing, I sent a test message before this and got a reply that I 
did not have permission to post, therefore my account had been killed somehow.

No need to reply.

Sorry for the intrusion.

Paul Gray


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[LegacyUG] Adding parents in Legacy Family Search

[Paul Gray]

I can't figure out how to add an individual to an existing set of parents
through Legacy Family Search. I find I need to do it in the Family Tree web
application using the Add Child function under either Spouses and Children
or Parents and Siblings on the main person screen (works either way, just
depends on whether the parent or grandparent is the main person on the
screen).



Scenario



1.  I have a couple with 12 children in Legacy



2.  The parents, and eight of the children exist in Family Tree and all ten
of them are linked between my Legacy file and Family tree.



3.  The other four children are only in my Legacy file.



4.  I click the right facing arrow on the Legacy panel for one of the
missing children and the individual is added to Family Tree, but (s)he is
not attached to parents.



5.  Then, down in 'Family Relationships' on the Legacy panel, I see the
father and mother relationship but if I click on the arrow to add that
relationship to Family Search, it wants to do an 'unlink' from the father
(or mother). Very strange, I am trying to create a link, and it appears to
want to unlink a linkage that doesn't even exist.



What am I doing wrong, or is linking an individual to an existing set of
parents best done directly in Family Tree?



Thanks,



Paul Gray




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RE: [LegacyUG] Adding parents in Legacy Family Search

[Paul Gray]

Joseph,

The parents exist in both files. The child just added to Family Tree does not 
have parents, it is added as an unlinked individual. I am trying to add the 
parents on the FT side. (maybe there is a way of adding it with the parents, if 
there is I don't know how to do it).

I've created a screen print in Dropbox of what I see in LFS just after I added 
the child. If you look at either the father or mother from the Legacy side in 
FT, you will see they are married and have other children. I want this child to 
be linked to them as well.

As I said, I can do this directly in FT by clicking 'Add Child', and entering 
the FSID of the kid in the search box to bring up and attach the child. I'm 
trying to figure out if I can do this in Legacy Family Search directly.

Thanks for your assistance.

Here's what I currently see.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/86lufm5xpbvu5s8/LFSScreenPrint.pdf

Thanks for your assistance,

Paul Gray



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From: JV Leavitt [mailto:jleavi...@att.net]
Sent: August-09-14 5:04 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Adding parents in Legacy Family Search

When you say existing set of parents, do you mean existing in FT, or existing 
in your Legacy db.  Or, do you mean that the parents exist in both places, and 
you have already linked to the parents, and they show up in your LFS panels 
with blue fonts, and now you just want to add one of the children in your db to 
the family in FT?

Joseph Leavitt




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[LegacyUG] Legacy Family Search losing links

[Paul Gray]

Something very strange is happening. If I bring up a previously linked
individual in Legacy Family Search, it displays blanks in the information
for that person in the right hand panel (despite it having shown
previously), and when I go back to Legacy it has also wiped out the FSID in
the Legacy file. Seems to do it for every linked individual.

A bit more detail

Click on individual in list (My Legacy People) on far left side of Legacy
Family Search screen. At this point, the individual shows the two arrows
indicating that he/she is linked. Also, I have customized my Family View and
have FSID as one of the fields showing, and the Family Tree person id is
showing there.

The Legacy data shows normally, but on the Family Tree panel it goes to the
Share tab, but the data is blank and the name just shows N/A. Absolutely
nothing works on the Family tree side. If I try to search for matches, it
finds nothing even if I do the search inputting the exact person ID.

And then, back in Legacy, the FSID has been blanked out!

I admit I am not using the absolute latest versions, but I'm kind of nervous
to upgrade to the latest unless this is a known problem fixed in the current
version.

Legacy 8.0.0.427
Legacy Family Search 8.0.556

Any help or suggestions?


Thank you,
Paul Gray






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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Family Search losing links

[Paul Gray]

Thanks, Sherry. Updated to 439 and things seem to be working again. I did have 
to relink the individuals whose links were erased.



Paul Gray



From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: August-07-14 9:16 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Family Search losing links



You must update to the latest build 8.0.0.439.

FamilySearch changed their site (again!) and previous versions won't work with 
it now.






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RE: [LegacyUG] Search and Replace

[Paul Gray]

Ron,



The problem with this mailing list’s position is that is totally without any 
statistical justification. There are all these supposed dial up users out 
there, but rarely does anyone post on this list that they would be among those 
adversely impacted. I don’t dispute that there are some, but how many? No one 
knows.



That needs to be balanced against the fact that graphics do help to illustrate 
issues very well in some cases.



Paul



From: Jay 1FamilyTree [mailto:1familytree@gmail.com]
Sent: July-06-14 1:49 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search and Replace



http://www.statista.com/statistics/188041/distribution-of-internet-audience-in-selected-countries-by-connection-speed/





On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk 
wrote:

Jay,

Are you aware that when you display such ignorance of the situation in the 
majority of the world you reinforce, what I think is a mistaken view, that 
Americans can't be bothered to discover the facts before acting.

Ron Ferguson
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RE: [LegacyUG] Search and Replace

[Paul Gray]

Ron,



I’m not trying to lecture anyone. I just don’t understand why you (and others) 
see nothing wrong with viewing HTML webpages with JPG’s as acceptable, and 
think it’s an unnecessary risk in viewing the same in a e-mail.



Paul



From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@outlook.com]
Sent: July-06-14 5:54 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search and Replace



Paul,

Personally, I have high speed internet connection.  That being said, I think 
Millennia made a very bad decision when they allowed HTML messages on this 
list.  Should they ever decide to relax/completely ignore security by allowing 
attachments to the list, then I will definitely unsubscribe from the list and 
probably quit using Legacy altogether.



There is no need to lecture me about anti virus software, anti spyware 
software, etc.  I subscribe to the best.  That being said, I don't need to test 
my security software so that I am protected against someone else's carelessness.



Fortunately, the rootsweb mailing lists take security seriously and block 
attachments as well as HTML Mail.



Ron Bernier

Sent from my iPad


On Jul 6, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Paul Gray graypa...@outlook.com wrote:

Ron,



The problem with this mailing list’s position is that is totally without any 
statistical justification. There are all these supposed dial up users out 
there, but rarely does anyone post on this list that they would be among those 
adversely impacted. I don’t dispute that there are some, but how many? No one 
knows.



That needs to be balanced against the fact that graphics do help to illustrate 
issues very well in some cases.



Paul





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RE: [LegacyUG] Pedigree screen font size

[Paul Gray]

I’m wondering if there are any options (I can find but one) to display more or 
less data in Pedigree View that might result in cramming more information in 
each box, forcing a smaller font. The only option I can see is whether to 
display RIN (or one of three other numbers)



My Pedigree view shows Name (and optionally RIN) on line 1, and birth 
year/death year on line 2. It also displays a picture on the left.



CE, is yours displaying the same data or more data?



Paul



From: CE WOOD [mailto:wood...@msn.com]
Sent: June-27-14 12:09 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Pedigree screen font size



I don't. The font size on the Pedigree screen is smaller than the font size on 
the Index, Individual, or Family screens.


CE


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 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pedigree screen font size
 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 06:14:17 -0700

 You can't. The Screen font settings in Options  Customize apply to
 the whole interface.

 You should see the same fonts throughout.


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree


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  How do I enlarge the font size on the Pedigree screen without changing the
  font size everywhere else? When I set a font size that works well on the
  Index screen, it is MUCH too small on the other screens, ESPECIALLY on the
  Pedigree screen. I cannot even read it there! HELP!!

 
  CE



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RE: [LegacyUG] Pedigree screen font size

[Paul Gray]

A lot depends upon your monitor and resolution I guess. I have set all my 
screen fonts to 12 in option 10.1, and I have also checked ‘Stretch Fonts when 
resizing’ which tends to make the fonts as large as possible for the particular 
screen and ‘box size’. In stretch fonts, I use minimum font 12, max font 99.



With this setup, I get text roughly the same size on index, pedigree, and 
family views (proviso with my monitor, YMMV)



Do you use the ‘stretch fonts…..’ option?



Paul Gray



From: CE Wood [mailto:wood...@msn.com]
Sent: June-26-14 9:30 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Pedigree screen font size



How do I enlarge the font size on the Pedigree screen without changing the font 
size everywhere else? When I set a font size that works well on the Index 
screen, it is MUCH too small on the other screens, ESPECIALLY on the Pedigree 
screen. I cannot even read it there! HELP!!





CE



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RE: [LegacyUG] Clicking and/or right clicking is getting MORE than annoying

[Paul Gray]

Ron,



Do you ever view web pages with images? I bet you do, as well as almost 
everyone on this group. An image attached to an e-mail is no different, from a 
security perspective, than any other image on the web. This scare mongering 
about the dangers of image attachments is just plain wrong!



As long as one has good anti-virus protection, there is no additional risk to 
e-mail image attachments vis a vis anything else on the web.



That being said, I’ve long given up on this policy changing on this group and 
am still grateful for the (text only) help it provides.



Paul Gray







From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@outlook.com]
Sent: June-04-14 2:45 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Clicking and/or right clicking is getting MORE than 
annoying



If Legacy ever allowed attachments to the list, I would be unsubscribed 
immediately.  You have other options/outlets for displaying images if you are 
unable to clearly describe your issue.  Not sure why you feel it is a good idea 
to jeopardize other users computer safety to satisfy a need to post attachments.



Ron Bernier

Woonsocket, RI






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RE: [LegacyUG] Portrait Picture

[Paul Gray]

Try this. In the media gallery, I suspect the new file has become the 
‘preferred’ picture (I know it’s not a picture, but)



Select the photo you want, then Options then Set as Preferred.



Does this work?



Paul Gray

From: Glynn Noles [mailto:glengl...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: May-24-14 5:02 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Portrait Picture



I give up.  Help.  I added media to a record (document, not pictures) and that 
is what is now where the persons portrait picture is supposed to be. How can I 
return the portrait picture to the default setting?



Thanks,



glynn

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RE: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]....????

[Paul Gray]

If you are sending a backup zip file to someone with Legacy, they should start 
Legacy and do File -- Restore and select the zip file. Then save it as an FDB 
under whatever name and whatever location they choose.
Paul Gray

From: 1familytree@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 13:59:45 -0700
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com

I think almost all pc operating software now can open ZIP files
If you right click on the zip filename there should be an option to Extract all.





On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 1:44 PM, elizabeth newi...@gmail.com wrote:


HmmI am confused again. They do have the same Legacy program I do so that 
is not a problem.




If I send a zip file, how should they open it?
I was told by others who helped me with the mess I had that a file should never 
ever be opened from a zip file???




Elizabeth


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Jay 1FamilyTree 1familytree@gmail.com 
wrote:



It would be best to send a ZIP file. Remember the person on the rec end needs 
to have Legacy also


Otherwise if they have a diff genealogy software, you need to create a gedcom 
to export, which also should be zipped to save space.




On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 12:55 PM, elizabeth newi...@gmail.com wrote:





If I want to email a copy of my complete tree (everything in it), how do I do 
that? Did I send the zip file or the fdb file? or...?







Elizabeth


On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com 
wrote:






In Legacy 8 the default location for your data files is My

Documents\Legacy Family Tree\Data

In Legacy 7.5 and earlier the default location is C:\Legacy\Data



Remember to avoid opening any file within a zip folder.



Having your backups in a different folder than your data files will

definitely help you avoid opening a data file within a zip file so

putting backups in C:\LegacyBackups will be a good way to keep them

separate.



Brian

Customer Support

Millennia Corporation

br...@legacyfamilytree.com

http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com



On 21/05/2014 12:26 AM, elizabeth wrote:

 More of my comments inserted in Cathy's email below but also new questions

 from me...



 Elizabeth

 =



 What you need to do in Legacy is Restore your latest zip. Make sure you

 control where the file is restored to and give it a new name without all

 those [1]'s.



 *[I have just restored my .zip file - and renamed it - and put it in the

 C:/Legacy/Data folderand the .fdb file is also showing up in that

 folder..is that the way it should be, or should the .zip file and .fdb

 file be in different folders?? I don't think I had a choice to put each one

 in a different folder when doing the restore.]*



 Then continue backing up as you are doing (though you may want to choose a

 different folder or drive) AND make sure you open the fdb file from where

 you saved it.







 *[I created a new folder in C drive - C:/LegacyBackups/ and put the backup

 in there. Is that the correct thing to do?*

 *Where is the correct place for the .fdb file that I should be using when

 I open Legacy?]*





 To be absolutely sure you open the right file, set your option at Options 

 Customize (1.2 in Legacy 8 - on the general tab in Legacy 7) to open this

 file. Make sure you browse to the file in an ordinary folder - NOT a zip

 folder. The problem is that Windows shows you the contents of zips as if

 they are a folder and you can open things from within them.



 *[I do understand what I have been doing wrong and how it happened. Now all

 I want to do is make sure that I am understanding the correct way to do it.

 It happened mainly because I did not know about .zip files, and because I'm

 usually in a hurry and didn't pay any attention to the 'IE5' destination.]*



 *[One more thing...should I delete all those files with all the '[1]s'

 added to them..after I have restored all my family files?]*



 Elizabeth







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RE: [LegacyUG] Dropbox?

[Paul Gray]

Dropbox files are still on your computer, they are just in a different place 
-- the Dropbox folder.

If you had links to those files in Legacy, you would have to tell Legacy the 
new location which is the Dropbox folder, and potentially subfolders within 
that.

(It is true that the files are also in your Dropbox space in the cloud but 
that is irrelevant to what is happening on your desktop and Legacy)

Paul Gray






-Original Message-
From: Liz Denis [mailto:nehalemm...@gmail.com]
Sent: April-26-14 9:26 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Dropbox?

Someone just mentioned putting their pictures in dropbox.  I just started that 
but the pictures are removed from my computer desktop (the file I access for my 
photos on my tree) it seems or am I
misunderstanding this?   So how do I get around that?  Thx



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RE: [LegacyUG] Location of images in v8 - not what I expected

[Paul Gray]

Bill,



I agree with you. I have my multimedia collection organised (well, sort of 
organised) the way I want it in a series of folders and subfolders. I do not 
use the “Legacy Multimedia” folder.



· Some of the images are genealogy related, others not.



· Only a very small portion of even the genealogical images will ever 
be linked in Legacy. I have many photos of Grandma, but not all of them are 
linked to Legacy.



· I have a backup strategy which backs up all of my multimedia at once, 
regardless of whether it is genealogical or not or whether it is linked to 
Legacy or not. For this reason, I find the Legacy multimedia backup very 
limited (and I don’t use it) because as I understand it, it only backs up those 
images that are linked to a person, event, or source. I want to back up all 
photos of Grandma, not just those linked in Legacy.



My two cents…….



Paul Gray



From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
Sent: April-22-14 10:16 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Location of images in v8 - not what I expected



I prefer for mine to be where they've always been in my own folders and 
subfolders.  Mine are all categorized.  I don't like them all lumped into one 
folder.  It's too hard to find images if they're all in one place.



William Boswell



From: Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:08 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Location of images in v8 - not what I expected



Okay, so I've finally upgraded to v8.

I see that my database has been copied to My Documents and converted.

However, none of my charts or pictures have been moved out of the old Legacy 
folders.

Did you guys all move your images over to the My Documents area?  Pros/cons of 
doing so?



I guess I expected the old Legacy folders to go away... or at least that once I 
had successfully upgraded, they were obsolete  could be deleted.  What's the 
strategy behind this sort of split implementation?  Some stuff in the new 
location and some stuff in the old location?



Thanks in advance!



--Paula in Texas






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RE: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import

[Paul Gray]

Hello Robert,



If I understand you correctly, you want ‘events’ or ‘facts’ called title. In 
your first export example that did not work as you wished , the level 1 tag is 
not 1 EVEN.



Looking at the second example that did work as you wanted, level 1 is EVEN and 
level 2 is TYPE of ‘Style’.



If you want Legacy to treat them them the same (create events or tags) I would 
think the export would need to have level 1 of EVEN and level 2 of TYPE with 
value of Title or something similar.



To create an event/fact for title, I suspect Legacy needs level 1 needs to be 
EVEN.





Paul Gray



From: Robert Stewart [mailto:trawetstre...@gmail.com]
Sent: April-08-14 11:58 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import



TITL is a standard Gedcom 5.5 tag.



From the gedcom I exported from RootMagic 6 and imported into Legacy 8, I have 
two examples of titles.  One uses the TITL tag, the other was a custom tag I 
created called Style.



1 TITL Earl of Mercia

2 DATE ABT 886

2 SOUR @S438@

3 PAGE pg. xlix

3 _TMPLT

4 FIELD

5 NAME Page

5 VALUE pg. xlix



This is how it is exported.



But upon being imported by Legacy, “Earl of Mercia” is now the tag.  (And the 
1000s of other titles I’ve created are now also custom tags, each one of them, 
quite obscuring the “real” tags I want to use.)



I also, at some point, created a tag, called it Style, and it imported 
correctly.



It works, it displays as it ought to, and I’ve got a Style tag on the list to 
choose from, build a sentence around, etc.



1 EVEN

2 TYPE Style

2 DATE 1177

2 NOTE Dei Gratia Rex Anglorum, dux Normannorum, dux Aquitanorum et comes Ande

3 CONC gavorum, dominus Hiberniae



I understand that this is still an EVENT but the type has the event called 
Style where a name is required.



But TITL is on the same level as EVEN (Will, Probate, etc.) in the gedcom 5.5 
standard.  Why isn’t it treated the same way by Legacy?



TITL {TITLE}: =
A description of a specific writing or other work, such as the title of a book 
when used in a source context, or a formal designation used by an individual in 
connection with positions of royalty or other social status, such as Grand Duke.



EVEN {EVENT}: =
A noteworthy happening related to an individual, a group, or an organization.



TYPE {TYPE}: =
A further qualification to the meaning of the associated superior tag. The 
value does not have any computer processing reliability. It is more in the form 
of a short one or two word note that should be displayed any time the 
associated data is displayed.



Another example:



1 TITL Lieutenant-Colonel, U.S. Army

2 DATE 20 FEB 1968

2 SOUR @S485@

3 _TMPLT

4 FIELD

5 NAME Page



Created a tag called “Lieutenant-Colonel, U.S. Army”.



1 DSCR Height 6 ft 2 in, Weight 185 lbs, Color of Eyes Blue, Color of Hair Red/B

2 DATE 3 MAY 1972

2 SOUR @S460@

3 _TMPLT

4 FIELD

5 NAME Page



Does not create a tag called “Height 6 ft 2 in, Weight 185 lbs, Color of Eyes 
Blue, Color of Hair Red/B”.



I don’t see how I can make RootsMagic export these TITLs more “properly” into a 
gedcom that Legacy will read and process correctly so that these 1,000s of 
titles, now tags, are all handled by one tag called Title.



Creating a dummy file in Legacy, and looking to add tags, I see 62 tags to pick 
from, albeit Title is not one of them.  Physical Description (DSCR) is.



Is there software that will convert



1 TITL Lieutenant-Colonel, U.S. Army



in a gedcom to



1 EVEN

2 TYPE Title

2 NOTE Lieutenant-Colonel, U.S. Army



That’s where LTools could come in?  A global replace, with wildcards, and 
multiple lines?

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RE: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import

[Paul Gray]

Hi again Robert,



It’s clear that Legacy isn’t handling TITL the same as Roots Magic. In fact, 
standard Legacy doesn’t seem to have a ‘Title’ fact as RM does. I’m not going 
to debate which is right and which is wrong, the simple fact of the matter is 
that each program has their own data structures and imports and exports data as 
they best see fit, and inconsistencies occur.



However, you need a solution, not a debate. I may have found one. This was my 
workaround test.







1.  In RM, I added a Title (Nobility) fact (which seems to be a RM standard 
fact) to myself. I am guessing this is the RM fact type you used.



2.  Exported Gedcom



3.  Used a text editor (Notepad) to view/modify the GEDCOM to change the 
TITL tag to TITX. That changes it from a tag that Legacy recognizes and 
processes in a way you don’t want, to an unrecognized tag.



4.  Imported modified GEDCOM into Legacy.



5.  After the first step (analysis) you will see a popup saying there are 
unrecognized items. Click Yes to review them. TITX will be in the box at the 
upper left. Click ‘Create an Event for this Tag’, Enter ‘Title’ or whatever you 
want, and proceed. Seemed to work for me and created a ‘Title’ event with 
description, date, and place.



The only thing that’s a bit limiting about this is you seem to need to create a 
new event. I couldn’t seem to map to an existing event type.



Perhaps this is a solution for you?



Paul









From: Robert Stewart [mailto:trawetstre...@gmail.com]
Sent: April-09-14 9:33 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import



I’d agree except that DSCR is handled fine.  TITL is not.  Both appear to be 
valid gedcom 5.5 tags, and least in the standards I’ve found online, since 1995 
from what I see, and I’d assume both would be processed the same way.



 nDSCR PHYSICAL_DESCRIPTION {1:1}p.

+1 EVENT_DETAIL{0:1}p.



nTITL NOBILITY_TITLE{1:1}p.

+1 EVENT_DETAIL{0:1}p.





(Both have details, dates, etc.)



Legacy accepts the DSCR just fine, but ignores the TITL, considering each 
instance of TITL a unique custom tag.



The reason I have Titles and not just Alt.Names is that the peerage acquired, 
retained, and lost various titles over their lives, so dates are a prominent 
fact of the title.  Once using a witness feature, and now I think I could do 
the same with share, I even linked the titles from predecessor, holder, 
successor.  So I could move up and down the change of “Earls of Suffolk” for 
example, from the 1st to the nth.



Not sure if I can do a bulk change of every TITL to EVEN-STYLE in RM.



I must have nearly 3,000 TITL entries in my gedcom.  That’s 1) a lot of data 
that’s suddenly lost, and 2) a lot of trash in my events selection.



If TITL were a custom, user-made, tag, I’d understand having to format it like 
Style which comes through as EVEN-STYLE.



What’s funny is that all the rest of my old custom tags came through just fine 
as custom tags.  (Like my Style, Arms, Annals 4M, and so on.)  What I can’t 
account for is TITL is transferred out of RM as a gedcom tag but  Legacy won’t 
accept it as a standard gedcom tag, and since it’s not formatted as a custom 
tag (which it isn’t) it makes a mess of it and treats each instance as a new 
unique custom tag.



Any ideas of how to convert some 3,000 1 TITL entries into 1 EVEN 2 Title and 
retain the text would be great.



I’m confident I can’t do it in RM, it would require some fancy text replacement 
machinations in GedPAD, and while MS Access 2013 will open all the tables, a 
primer on what table I should tackle to affect the changes (not the first time 
I’ve worked a massive database into shape) I’d try it.



Sorry to belabor this, but where was the information regarding which of the 
standard gedcom tags Legacy supports and which they don’t.  For a program with 
surprising attention to detail this seems to be a big issue.  (Or I’m not 
familiar enough with it to make the fix myself.)







From: Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:58 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import



Hello Robert,



If I understand you correctly, you want ‘events’ or ‘facts’ called title. In 
your first export example that did not work as you wished , the level 1 tag is 
not 1 EVEN.



Looking at the second example that did work as you wanted, level 1 is EVEN and 
level 2 is TYPE of ‘Style’.



If you want Legacy to treat them them the same (create events or tags) I would 
think the export would need to have level 1 of EVEN and level 2 of TYPE with 
value of Title or something similar.



To create an event/fact for title, I suspect Legacy needs level 1 needs to be 
EVEN.





Paul Gray



From: Robert Stewart [mailto:trawetstre...@gmail.com]
Sent: April-08-14 11:58 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import

RE: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import

[Paul Gray]

Glad that it worked. There is often (not always) a workaround to be found.



Paul



From: Robert Stewart [mailto:trawetstre...@gmail.com]
Sent: April-09-14 12:43 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import



Thanks Paul.



A solution that worked.



In fact, after I renamed 1 TITL to 1 TITX in the gedcom, performed the import, 
it actually let me assign it to a Title (!) in the program (and not create an 
event).  It imported perfectly.  I found a TITX in the tag list, and a quick 
edit  it’s now Title.  And I’m back down to a reasonable amount (113) of tags.



Thanks for the solution!



Robert



From: Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:52 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Bad TITL import



Hi again Robert,



It’s clear that Legacy isn’t handling TITL the same as Roots Magic. In fact, 
standard Legacy doesn’t seem to have a ‘Title’ fact as RM does. I’m not going 
to debate which is right and which is wrong, the simple fact of the matter is 
that each program has their own data structures and imports and exports data as 
they best see fit, and inconsistencies occur.



However, you need a solution, not a debate. I may have found one. This was my 
workaround test.







1.  In RM, I added a Title (Nobility) fact (which seems to be a RM standard 
fact) to myself. I am guessing this is the RM fact type you used.



2.  Exported Gedcom



3.  Used a text editor (Notepad) to view/modify the GEDCOM to change the 
TITL tag to TITX. That changes it from a tag that Legacy recognizes and 
processes in a way you don’t want, to an unrecognized tag.



4.  Imported modified GEDCOM into Legacy.



5.  After the first step (analysis) you will see a popup saying there are 
unrecognized items. Click Yes to review them. TITX will be in the box at the 
upper left. Click ‘Create an Event for this Tag’, Enter ‘Title’ or whatever you 
want, and proceed. Seemed to work for me and created a ‘Title’ event with 
description, date, and place.



The only thing that’s a bit limiting about this is you seem to need to create a 
new event. I couldn’t seem to map to an existing event type.



Perhaps this is a solution for you?



Paul












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RE: [LegacyUG] Missing dates?????

[Paul Gray]

Marie,



I suspect that there may be some inconsistencies in ‘date format settings’ 
either between Windows on the laptop and desktop, and/or between Legacy on the 
two machines. I would check date formats in both Windows and Legacy on both 
machines and see whether something looks inconsistent.



Paul



From: mvmc...@aol.com [mailto:mvmc...@aol.com]
Sent: April-07-14 2:59 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Missing dates?







I have had to upgrade my computers to Win 7 pro [I've been an XP user].  I'm 
still using Legacy 7.5 (Deluxe) and have all the upgrades. When I moved my 
Legacy files to my new DELL desktop almost all the dates are gone.



I used restore but find that some of the people have years but no dates and 
months. I hoping it's just a case of not clicking the right button. They are on 
the laptop but did not transfer to the desktop.



Any ides why?



Marie

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RE: [LegacyUG] need help with family view

[Paul Gray]

I wonder if it could be that the options for default marriage wording got 
messed up. I no longer have V7 on my system, but in V8 it is option 8.7. At the 
top of that options panel, there are six labels that are user configurable. 
Three for the left side person, three for the right side person. With each 
person, there can be a different label 1) if Married, 2)If Not Married, 3) If 
No Spouse or partner.



Could someone who still has 7.5 advise Norma where to look for these settings 
in 7.5?





Paul Gray



From: Norma [mailto:ndai...@verizon.net]
Sent: April-03-14 9:04 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] need help with family view



Please Help!



Something strange has just happened to my file.  In the family view in the 
upper left corner of each person’s details, where either husband or wife is 
printed, suddenly all the females have a “0” and the males have “husband”.



In the case of a male child who died young  never married,  in the upper left 
corner of his pane is the word “wife” and in the upper left corner of the right 
hand pane is the word “married”.  



In the case of a female child for whom I have only a birth date, in the upper 
left corner of her pane is the word “married”  in the upper left corner of the 
left hand pane is the word “wife”



I am using Legacy 7.5.0.278 on a Windows 7 PC.



Norma

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Re: [LegacyUG] need help with family view

[Paul Gray]

Thanks Tessa,

What you are describing under VIEW is virtually the same thing that is in the 
top panel in option 8.7 in V8.

I would certainly look there before doing a reinstall.

Paul

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 4, 2014, at 9:49, Tessa Keough murke...@gmail.com wrote:

 As I see it in version 7.5 there are two options, DATA ENTRY - default
 married names - either generate surname of spouse or nothing and in
 VIEW - default family view labels (edit default marriage wording) your
 choices are husband/wife or male/female AND married, married someone,
 had a relationship with, had a relationship with someone. First you
 choose the label title then you choose the relationship and it is
 Person 1 xxx Person 2. Pretty clear what you are choosing.

 Tessa

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 Society for One-Place Studies - Plate Cove East, Newfoundland


 On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Paul Gray graypa...@outlook.com wrote:
 I wonder if it could be that the options for default marriage wording got
 messed up. I no longer have V7 on my system, but in V8 it is option 8.7. At
 the top of that options panel, there are six labels that are user
 configurable. Three for the left side person, three for the right side
 person. With each person, there can be a different label 1) if Married, 2)If
 Not Married, 3) If No Spouse or partner.



 Could someone who still has 7.5 advise Norma where to look for these
 settings in 7.5?





 Paul Gray



 From: Norma [mailto:ndai...@verizon.net]
 Sent: April-03-14 9:04 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] need help with family view



 Please Help!



 Something strange has just happened to my file.  In the family view in the
 upper left corner of each person's details, where either husband or wife is
 printed, suddenly all the females have a 0 and the males have husband.



 In the case of a male child who died young  never married,  in the upper
 left corner of his pane is the word wife and in the upper left corner of
 the right hand pane is the word married.



 In the case of a female child for whom I have only a birth date, in the
 upper left corner of her pane is the word married  in the upper left
 corner of the left hand pane is the word wife



 I am using Legacy 7.5.0.278 on a Windows 7 PC.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8.0 For MACs

[Paul Gray]

 Priscilla,

The short answer is that there is no such thing as legacy for Mac. It is a 
Windows program.

In order to use Legacy on a Mac you must also install windows on the Mac. There 
are several ways to do this and others on the group know more about that and 
will likely be able to provide more
detail than I can.

 Paul Gray


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 I just bought my first MAC.  Had Legacy 8.0 on previous computer and know I 
 need to somehow convert.  Can anyone please tell me how or what I need to do 
 to move/convert/use (I'm not sure what correct term is) previous Legacy 
 Windows version into MAC version.  Will family data need to be converted as 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Problem viewing .pdf files

[Paul Gray]

Ed,



A clue as to what might be happening, but I’m not sure how to prove it or fix 
it. Perhaps this suggestion will be enough for others with more specific 
knowledge to assist.



I wonder if the ‘type of file’ for the PDF was incorrectly set to picture when 
the link was first established, and when you double click on it it is trying to 
use the built in picture viewer in Legacy and it can’t because the file is a 
PDF. When you attach any media item Legacy 8, you get a drop down menu with 
selections Picture, Sound, Video, Document, Internet Website, or Scan a 
Picture. Back in 7.5, there were four icons, Picture, Sound, Video, or File if 
I remember properly.



I’ve never seen any use made of this data element other than if the type is 
picture, it’s tries to use some internal viewer to display the media, and if it 
is anything other than picture, it uses whatever default program you have set 
up for that file type. You obviously have a PDF viewer set up because it opens 
in that viewer elsewhere on your computer (e.g. in Windows explorer).



Now the problem. I know of nowhere in Legacy to see what the ‘type of file’ 
originally chosen was when the media was linked, nor any way to change it.



I guess you could try reattaching it, making sure you select ‘Document’ from 
the drop down, and see whether it works. But, I admit it doesn’t help much with 
fixing the issue.



Paul Gray



From: Ed Ladendorf [mailto:edladend...@yahoo.com]
Sent: February-23-14 6:22 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Problem viewing .pdf files



Thanks for the replies. I'm not concerned with it not showing up in the Picture 
Center. The Media Gallery shows the .pdf file, but as stated in my original 
post, double clicking on it will not open it. I'm greeted with the message 
There is currently no default media player set up for your computer.  I'm 
baffled by this, as when double clicking on a .pdf file anywhere but Legacy 
launches it with no problem.




Ed



On Sunday, February 23, 2014 7:02 AM, Brian/Support 
br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

To open the file you have to double click on it.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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On 23 Feb 2014 7:44 AM, Ed Ladendorf wrote:
 Thanks Mike. Sorry for the poor terminology. No wonder I didn't get a reply.

 If I click on the icon for the media gallery for the individual, I'm able to 
 see the .pdf file. Not so in the Picture Center. If I click on the file in 
 the Media Gallery, it will not open. Where am I going wrong??

 Ed



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RE: [LegacyUG] Privacy issue when creating GEDCOM?

[Paul Gray]

Gene,

I would certainly suspect an issue with living/dead and possibly 
inconsistencies between Legacy and TNG of such rather than privacy settings, as 
if I hear right you have no one set to private.

Two Questions

1) Taking any one of the individuals you believe should not be private, are 
they dead in reality and 1) do they have a death date in Legacy, or if they 
have a blank death date is the Living? radio button set to living or dead?


2) On the export Gedcom settings Privacy options, what boxes are ticked in the 
top selection area 'Suppression of Living Individuals and their families


Paul Gray




-Original Message-
From: Gene Wheeler [mailto:bridge...@gmail.com]
Sent: February-16-14 8:20 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Privacy issue when creating GEDCOM?

Yes, but he couldn't find a cause on the TNG end.  And Legacy can't find it on 
their end.  I'm stuck in the middle!

Gene


On 2/16/2014 12:23 AM, Brant Gibbard wrote:
 Have you contacted Darrin Lythgoe at TNG to notify him of the problem you are 
 having in case it is a problem on that end?

 Brant Gibbard
 Toronto, ON
 http://bgibbard.ca


 -Original Message-
 From: Gene Wheeler [mailto:bridge...@gmail.com]
 Sent: February-15-14 10:54 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Privacy issue when creating GEDCOM?

 I'm using Notepad++ to open the gedcom.  There is NO private setting or label 
 anywhere in the gedcom.

 Gene
 

 On 2/15/2014 10:37 PM, Bob Austen wrote:
 Gene,

 A gedcom is a text file which will open with any text editor.  WordPad or 
 NotePad work well and they won't add any new formatting.  If the name in 
 Legacy is marked private you will see that in the area of the name in the 
 gedcom.  In WordPad (at least) you can do a search and replace.

 Bob



 -Original Message-
 From: Gene Wheeler [mailto:bridge...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 6:51 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Privacy issue when creating GEDCOM?

 Bob,

 When I check these individuals in TNG, the Living box is unchecked, and the 
 Private box is checked.  In every case, the individuals are deceased.

 I just tried using a gedcom exported from Legacy v.800.397 and am getting 
 the same problem.  Does anyone know how I can check the gedcom to look for 
 the private setting therein and perhaps to a search and replace?  I can't 
 find it.

 Gene
 ==

 On 2/15/2014 9:43 PM, Bob Austen wrote:
 Gene, Are those showing up Private marked as Living in your Legacy file?  
 Some programs won't show data on the living.

 Bob A


 -Original Message-
 From: Gene Wheeler [mailto:bridge...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 5:09 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Privacy issue when creating GEDCOM?

 I'm using TNG to present my Legacy data online.  I recently upgraded TNG to 
 the new v.10.  I've just noticed that, although NONE of my individuals in 
 Legacy v7.5 are marked as Private in the privacy setting, quite a few of 
 them are turning up in TNG as Private after uploading my Legacy GEDCOM 
 file.  When I search Legacy for individuals with Private settings, I find 
 none.  I first checked a few of those that came up Private in TNG, and 
 again, they were not set as such in Legacy.

 In TNG, I went record by record for several individuals and cleared their 
 Private settings.  I then ran a new Legacy GEDCOM, imported it to TNG v.10, 
 and find that these same individuals are once again marked as Private, thus 
 they display as Private in both the public site, and in the admin pages.

 Does anyone have an idea what is going on here?  Thanks!

 Gene





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RE: [LegacyUG] Privacy issue when creating GEDCOM?

[Paul Gray]

Looked at a TNG forum and found a post addressing what looks like same issue. 
Bottom of post refers to a TNG setting about assume private if not dead x 
years. Is this of any help?

http://www.tngforum.us/lofiversion/index.php?t9067.html


Paul Gray




-Original Message-
From: Gene Wheeler [mailto:bridge...@gmail.com]
Sent: February-16-14 12:37 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Privacy issue when creating GEDCOM?

Paul,

Correct, no one is set to Private.

1) Yes, they are ALL deceased, and they all have death dates in Legacy.
2) NONE of the boxes are checked in this section.

Gene
=


On 2/16/2014 1:55 PM, Paul Gray wrote:
 Gene,

 I would certainly suspect an issue with living/dead and possibly 
 inconsistencies between Legacy and TNG of such rather than privacy settings, 
 as if I hear right you have no one set to private.

 Two Questions

 1) Taking any one of the individuals you believe should not be private, are 
 they dead in reality and 1) do they have a death date in Legacy, or if they 
 have a blank death date is the Living? radio button set to living or dead?


 2) On the export Gedcom settings Privacy options, what boxes are ticked in 
 the top selection area 'Suppression of Living Individuals and their families


 Paul Gray




 -Original Message-
 From: Gene Wheeler [mailto:bridge...@gmail.com]
 Sent: February-16-14 8:20 AM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Privacy issue when creating GEDCOM?

 Yes, but he couldn't find a cause on the TNG end.  And Legacy can't find it 
 on their end.  I'm stuck in the middle!

 Gene
 

 On 2/16/2014 12:23 AM, Brant Gibbard wrote:
 Have you contacted Darrin Lythgoe at TNG to notify him of the problem you 
 are having in case it is a problem on that end?

 Brant Gibbard
 Toronto, ON
 http://bgibbard.ca


 -Original Message-
 From: Gene Wheeler [mailto:bridge...@gmail.com]
 Sent: February-15-14 10:54 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Privacy issue when creating GEDCOM?

 I'm using Notepad++ to open the gedcom.  There is NO private setting or 
 label anywhere in the gedcom.

 Gene
 

 On 2/15/2014 10:37 PM, Bob Austen wrote:
 Gene,

 A gedcom is a text file which will open with any text editor.  WordPad or 
 NotePad work well and they won't add any new formatting.  If the name in 
 Legacy is marked private you will see that in the area of the name in the 
 gedcom.  In WordPad (at least) you can do a search and replace.

 Bob



 -Original Message-
 From: Gene Wheeler [mailto:bridge...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 6:51 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Privacy issue when creating GEDCOM?

 Bob,

 When I check these individuals in TNG, the Living box is unchecked, and the 
 Private box is checked.  In every case, the individuals are deceased.

 I just tried using a gedcom exported from Legacy v.800.397 and am getting 
 the same problem.  Does anyone know how I can check the gedcom to look for 
 the private setting therein and perhaps to a search and replace?  I can't 
 find it.

 Gene
 ==

 On 2/15/2014 9:43 PM, Bob Austen wrote:
 Gene, Are those showing up Private marked as Living in your Legacy file?  
 Some programs won't show data on the living.

 Bob A


 -Original Message-
 From: Gene Wheeler [mailto:bridge...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 5:09 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Privacy issue when creating GEDCOM?

 I'm using TNG to present my Legacy data online.  I recently upgraded TNG 
 to the new v.10.  I've just noticed that, although NONE of my individuals 
 in Legacy v7.5 are marked as Private in the privacy setting, quite a few 
 of them are turning up in TNG as Private after uploading my Legacy GEDCOM 
 file.  When I search Legacy for individuals with Private settings, I find 
 none.  I first checked a few of those that came up Private in TNG, and 
 again, they were not set as such in Legacy.

 In TNG, I went record by record for several individuals and cleared their 
 Private settings.  I then ran a new Legacy GEDCOM, imported it to TNG 
 v.10, and find that these same individuals are once again marked as 
 Private, thus they display as Private in both the public site, and in 
 the admin pages.

 Does anyone have an idea what is going on here?  Thanks!

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RE: [LegacyUG] Privacy issue when creating GEDCOM?

[Paul Gray]

Glad to be able to assist. From your posts, I was pretty sure it wasn't 
anything on the Legacy side.

Paul Gray

-Original Message-
From: Gene Wheeler [mailto:bridge...@gmail.com]
Sent: February-16-14 2:02 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Cc: Darrin Lythgoes
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Privacy issue when creating GEDCOM?

CONGRATULATIONS!  Paul, you win the prize!  This indeed was my problem.
I reset the value to zero and I no longer have the privacy issue.
Thanks so much for finding the answer for me.

Best to you,

Gene
==

On 2/16/2014 3:12 PM, Paul Gray wrote:
 Looked at a TNG forum and found a post addressing what looks like same issue. 
 Bottom of post refers to a TNG setting about assume private if not dead x 
 years. Is this of any help?

 http://www.tngforum.us/lofiversion/index.php?t9067.html


 Paul Gray




 -Original Message-
 From: Gene Wheeler [mailto:bridge...@gmail.com]
 Sent: February-16-14 12:37 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Privacy issue when creating GEDCOM?

 Paul,

 Correct, no one is set to Private.

 1) Yes, they are ALL deceased, and they all have death dates in Legacy.
 2) NONE of the boxes are checked in this section.

 Gene
 =


 On 2/16/2014 1:55 PM, Paul Gray wrote:
 Gene,

 I would certainly suspect an issue with living/dead and possibly 
 inconsistencies between Legacy and TNG of such rather than privacy settings, 
 as if I hear right you have no one set to private.

 Two Questions

 1) Taking any one of the individuals you believe should not be private, are 
 they dead in reality and 1) do they have a death date in Legacy, or if they 
 have a blank death date is the Living? radio button set to living or dead?


 2) On the export Gedcom settings Privacy options, what boxes are ticked in 
 the top selection area 'Suppression of Living Individuals and their families


 Paul Gray




 -Original Message-
 From: Gene Wheeler [mailto:bridge...@gmail.com]
 Sent: February-16-14 8:20 AM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Privacy issue when creating GEDCOM?

 Yes, but he couldn't find a cause on the TNG end.  And Legacy can't find it 
 on their end.  I'm stuck in the middle!

 Gene
 

 On 2/16/2014 12:23 AM, Brant Gibbard wrote:
 Have you contacted Darrin Lythgoe at TNG to notify him of the problem you 
 are having in case it is a problem on that end?

 Brant Gibbard
 Toronto, ON
 http://bgibbard.ca


 -Original Message-
 From: Gene Wheeler [mailto:bridge...@gmail.com]
 Sent: February-15-14 10:54 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Privacy issue when creating GEDCOM?

 I'm using Notepad++ to open the gedcom.  There is NO private setting or 
 label anywhere in the gedcom.

 Gene
 

 On 2/15/2014 10:37 PM, Bob Austen wrote:
 Gene,

 A gedcom is a text file which will open with any text editor.  WordPad or 
 NotePad work well and they won't add any new formatting.  If the name in 
 Legacy is marked private you will see that in the area of the name in 
 the gedcom.  In WordPad (at least) you can do a search and replace.

 Bob



 -Original Message-
 From: Gene Wheeler [mailto:bridge...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 6:51 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Privacy issue when creating GEDCOM?

 Bob,

 When I check these individuals in TNG, the Living box is unchecked, and 
 the Private box is checked.  In every case, the individuals are deceased.

 I just tried using a gedcom exported from Legacy v.800.397 and am getting 
 the same problem.  Does anyone know how I can check the gedcom to look for 
 the private setting therein and perhaps to a search and replace?  I can't 
 find it.

 Gene
 ==

 On 2/15/2014 9:43 PM, Bob Austen wrote:
 Gene, Are those showing up Private marked as Living in your Legacy file?  
 Some programs won't show data on the living.

 Bob A


 -Original Message-
 From: Gene Wheeler [mailto:bridge...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 5:09 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Privacy issue when creating GEDCOM?

 I'm using TNG to present my Legacy data online.  I recently upgraded TNG 
 to the new v.10.  I've just noticed that, although NONE of my individuals 
 in Legacy v7.5 are marked as Private in the privacy setting, quite a 
 few of them are turning up in TNG as Private after uploading my Legacy 
 GEDCOM file.  When I search Legacy for individuals with Private settings, 
 I find none.  I first checked a few of those that came up Private in TNG, 
 and again, they were not set as such in Legacy.

 In TNG, I went record by record for several individuals and cleared their 
 Private settings.  I then ran a new Legacy GEDCOM, imported it to TNG 
 v.10, and find that these same individuals are once again marked as 
 Private, thus they display as Private in both the public site

RE: [LegacyUG] v800-397 Internet

[Paul Gray]

Updated to 397 this morning, no connection problems with Legacy Home or Legacy 
Family Search.



By the way, I notice that the ‘taskbar icon’ when Legacy Family Search is open 
has a green ‘L’ so I can differentiate from the regular Legacy program (blue 
‘L’). Is this new in 397, or did I just not notice it before? A little thing, 
but very helpful.



Paul Gray



From: C.G. Ouimet [mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com]
Sent: February-05-14 2:12 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] v800-397  Internet



Legacy Home page not connecting to internet for news or updates.



Legacy fails to connect to Family Search.



V800-385 was fine.



Anyone else with these issues?







C.G. Ouimet

Kingston ON



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RE: [LegacyUG] Tag descriptions missing?

[Paul Gray]

Rita,

I doubt the way you converted should have caused your problem. I cannot imagine 
the Legacy conversion program dropping existing data. Deluxe justs 'unlocks' 
program features that are already there, can't see why data would be any 
different.

Paul Gray

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Sent: February-03-14 11:37 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Tag descriptions missing?

Just as I hit send it occurred to me what probably happened, at least in my 
case.  I downloaded the standard version and made a copy of my v 7.5 file to 
play with like, several here suggested, and then upgraded to the deluxe 
version.  But wouldn't/shouldn't the rest of the tag descriptions show when I 
unlocked the deluxe?

Rita in South Carolina





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RE: [LegacyUG] Right click on Tag #

[Paul Gray]

I confirm that I can duplicate the situation you describe below.



I also note that if you right click ANY tag in individual view, the make 
changes on tag # always defaults to tag 1.



From: Bob Austen [mailto:rgaus...@telus.net]
Sent: January-29-14 11:52 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Right click on Tag #



Can anyone else verify this problem?  I had one other person verify it prior to 
my reporting it, however, Support cannot duplicate this.

In Family View if I right click on a tag in a person's name the Advanced
Tagging screen opens and that tag that I right clicked on will show in 'Make
changes on #'. A great feature, which I use all the time. Except it now
only reliably works if I chose the husband. If I do the same for the wife I
will get a different selection, as follows…

Right clicking on Tags 1 through 4 will result in Tag #1 in 'Make changes on #'

Right clicking on Tag 5 = Tag #2

Right clicking on Tag 6 = Tag #3

Right clicking on Tag 7 = Tag #4

Right clicking on Tag 8 = Tag #5

Right clicking on Tag 9 = Tag #6

Thanks,

Bob A





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RE: [LegacyUG] Unsupported File Format

[Paul Gray]

I suspect that it has to do with the file type chosen when the file was 
originally linked. In 7.5, there were buttons for Picture, Video, Sound, and 
Document. In 8.0, the same process is there, it’s just a drop down menu. 
Unfortunately, once chosen I see no way of re-displaying what you selected 
except an Access query.



I was able to create the unsupported file type error in 8.0 when adding a media 
item to an individual (wouldn’t even let me add it) if I selected ‘Picture’ as 
the file type and then tried to link to a doc or docx file. Perhaps your files 
were added as ‘pictures’ and 7.5 didn’t care about the discrepancy, but 8.0 
does.



That would also explain current behaviour. Some of the existing links may very 
well have been added as Documents originally and they work just fine, and 
presumably when you relink the problem media, you also select the proper file 
type.



Paul Gray







From: gcr...@juno.com [mailto:gcr...@juno.com]
Sent: January-28-14 8:55 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Unsupported File Format



I've isolated 517 WORD files in my media location that are attached to 
individuals. Almost all are of information obtained from public records (obits, 
wedding notices, anniversaries, birthdays, etc) found on the Internet in old 
newspapers or the like, copied and pasted (along with the source) and saved as 
a WORD document, some way back when I was using WORD 2003 (.doc extensions) or 
WORD 2007 (.docx extensions) I use now.



These all open from Windows Explorer using WORD. On an individuals record in 
Legacy 8 they are indicated in the Media Gallery icon as either .doc or .docx 
extensions and only show the caption applied (Wedding announcement, birthday, 
obituary). When trying to open (edit) it is when the *unsupported file format* 
message appears. When I take the option *reload original* the same message 
comes up. However, if I re-add the item using the *add media* option it is 
added (linked) and can be opened via WORD.



On the other hand, some individuals with WORD documents attached open just 
fine. It seems to be a random situation. Some work, some don't. It's just 
muddling through all 517 or these WORD files checking back to the individual in 
Legacy to see which ones aren't linked correctly..



gc






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RE: [LegacyUG] Potential Problems Settings

[Paul Gray]

Try unchecking Option 8.11




Hello LUGers,
How do I stop the PP red balls from showing by names in the Family View?
I have went to OptionsCustomizeData Format and scrolled down to 3.12 and 
unchecked it, but the red balls are still active in Family View.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8.0.0385

[Paul Gray]

Darlene,



In option 5.2, right hand side do you have full month name (as opposed to 
abbrev month name) checked?



Paul Gray



From: Darlene  Don Hicks [mailto:darca...@yahoo.com]
Sent: January-21-14 12:07 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8.0.0385



Last evening I downloaded Legacy 8.  Everyone in my file, 37,000 people, all 
have date problems with a little red ! by it.  I am aware of the (from 
1960)exp. change and have started changing that.  The program states that 21 
November 1898 is incorrect as a date format.  I have gone through the 
'customize changes' but it still isn't fixed.  Do I have to close Legacy 8 
before these changes take effect?  If there is no fix, except individually 
correcting them,  can I still go back to Legacy 7.5 which is still on my 
computer?  Can a person have two Legacy files both Legacy 7.5 and Legacy 
8.0.0385, and use them interchangeably?



Darlene



A DAY HEMMED WITH PRAYER IS LESS LIKELY TO UNRAVEL!



except

“The time to guard against corruption and tyranny is before they shall have 
gotten a hold of us.”





- Thomas Jefferson 1782








The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing 
to work and give to those who would not.



– Thomas Jefferson









You are never too old to set another goal or to dream a new dream.
~ C.S. Lewis, 1898-1963






Energy and persistence conquer all things.



~ Benjamin Franklin,
1706-1790



If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up 
any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of 
society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being 
the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, 
and voluntarily become a slave.





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RE: [LegacyUG] Plain text test

[Paul Gray]

Bob,

I received the test as plain text.

Paul Gray

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Sent: January-21-14 1:38 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Plain text test

This is a test.  I left it at auto-detect instead of changing it to PLAIN 
TEXT ONLY under the OPTIONS menu.  It SHOULD default to plain text due to how 
Legacy is set up in my address book.

Checking to see how it shows up once it hits the list.  (Sorry - I can't think 
of any other way of testing this without involving the list...)

Bob



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RE: [LegacyUG] Plain text question

[Paul Gray]

Bob,

I replied to your test message indicating that it did indeed come through in 
plain text. With respect to replies to messages I have no knowledge of 
Thunderbird, but Outlook 2007 creates the reply in the same format as the 
original message unless I manually override it despite the fact that my default 
message format for all messages (not just this group) is plain text.

Paul Gray

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Sent: January-21-14 1:34 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Plain text question

Not directly related to Legacy, but it is related to this mailing list.

I use Thunderbird as my e-mail client.  In my address book for 
LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com, I have it set to:
Prefers to receive messages formatted as PLAIN TEXT

But when I create a new e-mail and address it to this user group, I look under 
OPTIONS, DELIVERY FORMAT, it is defaulting to AUTO-DETECT instead of PLAIN TEXT 
ONLY.  (I manually changed it to plain text for this e-mail.  I'm not sure if 
it would have defaulted to plain text or not).

How to I force Thunderbird to send the msg as PLAIN TEXT instead of using 
AUTO-DETECT?

Even worse, when I reply to someone, it appears that it is not using PLAIN 
TEXT.  Any suggestions?

Is there an easy way in Thunderbird to determine what format is being used 
before I send the msg?  And/or a way to tell what format a rcvd msg is in?

Thanks,
Bob



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Re: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall 7.5

[Paul Gray]

Graham,

Was your media stored in  your C:\Legacy folder?

My media was stored in a separate data partition, but I believe the uninstall 
deleted c:\legacy so if I had any media there, it would've been gone.

Paul Gray

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 On Jan 20, 2014, at 0:47, Graham Lambert gra...@bigpond.net.au wrote:


 On 20/01/2014 8:26 AM, Paul Gray wrote:
 Bob,

 That did the trick, except that I had to use the custom uninstall.

 Executing unwise.exe gave me three options, Automatic, Custom, or Repair. I 
 first did Automatic and got the same old behaviour it just deleted the 
 install.log file.

 Copied the install.log file back, and executed Custom. It threw up a few 
 screens asking whether I wanted to delete this or that. For those items that 
 were windows files (e.g. dll's) I said No, for those that were obviously 
 Legacy specific, I chose Yes.

 Seems to have worked!

 Paul Gray

 I had to do all above myself to finally delete L7.5. Unfortunately
 though, all my very precious media was deletedpermanently...how I am
 not sure? All I remember is being frustrated that 7.5 was not being
 deleted properly at first, and then later, finally agreeing to a
 delete, bypassing the recycle bin. Still trying to work out how and
 why :-(

 Graham



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[LegacyUG] Can't uninstall 7.5

[Paul Gray]

Well, I'm happy with V8, want to uninstall 7.5.

Since I had read previous posts about uninstall problems and the missing
install.log file, I first went to C:\Legacy and verified that I indeed did
have that file. Went to the Legacy folder on my start menu and found an
entry for Uninstall Legacy 7.5. Clicking on properties for this item, I
found that it would execute  C:\Legacy\Unwise.exe  /U
C:\Legacy\Install.log.

Ran the selection, user account control asked for permission, said yes, then
the Unwise executed very quickly (about 1 sec), no message such as
uninstall completed, process finished or the like.

Went back to the start menu, Legacy 7.5 still there, clicked on it and
everything is still there and operational. Looked in C\Legacy, and
everything is there except the install.log file.

Tried to uninstall again, got message that install.log is missing.

Reinstalled 7.5 from website, it recreated install.log (saw that recommended
in previous posts)

Uninstalled again, same result. All I can get the uninstall to do is delete
the install.log file, nothing more.

I should say that my installation is the 'default installation' with
everything in C:\Legacy except that my data (family file, multimedia)
resides in a separate data partition.

Any ideas for next steps?

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RE: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall 7.5

[Paul Gray]

Bob,

That did the trick, except that I had to use the custom uninstall.

Executing unwise.exe gave me three options, Automatic, Custom, or Repair. I 
first did Automatic and got the same old behaviour it just deleted the 
install.log file.

Copied the install.log file back, and executed Custom. It threw up a few 
screens asking whether I wanted to delete this or that. For those items that 
were windows files (e.g. dll's) I said No, for those that were obviously Legacy 
specific, I chose Yes.

Seems to have worked!

Paul Gray



-Original Message-
From: Bob Janice [mailto:bobjan...@gmail.com]
Sent: January-19-14 1:59 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall 7.5

Paul,

Same thing happened to me.  First I would check to see if you have the 
install.log file in the Legacy folder.  If you do, make a copy of it and put it 
on your desktop for safe-keeping.

Next, go into the Legacy folder , find the file named unwise.exe and double 
click it. Basically, you are ignoring the shortcut link inn the Start menu and 
just executing it manually.

It will probably ask if you want to do a custom uninstall or an express 
uninstall.  Choose the express uninstall. (NOTE: can't remember the wording 
exactly insofar as custom vs. express, but you will see what I mean when the 
window comes up).

Let the express uninstall continue and when it finishes you should be good to 
go.

Hope this helps.

Just deleting the Legacy folder from your hard drive (as someone
recommended) is probably not a good idea.  That will get rid of the Legacy 
files but leave a bunch of invalid entries in your Windows registry.






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RE: [LegacyUG] Printing Famly Group Record

[Paul Gray]

Sounds like it might be a messed up header or footer..



Have you tried looking at Report Options  à Page Setup Headers Footers (on 
right) àthen pressing  Reset?



Paul Gray

From: Christopher Barttels [mailto:chrisbartt...@msn.com]
Sent: January-16-14 8:43 PM
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Printing Famly Group Record



Recently I have been stumped by a problem when I print Family Group Records.



Each individual is on a separate page, i.e., husband, page 1, wife, page 2, 1st 
child, page 3, etc.  Each page begins about halfway down the page.  I can’t 
figure out why this is happening, it never has occurred before, and I’ve been 
using Legacy since 1997.



I switched to Legacy 8, early this afternoon, but I still have the same 
problem.  Can anyone subject a fix, or tell me what I need to check or uncheck?





Christopher Barttels

Dayton, Washington

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RE: [LegacyUG] Gender colors

[Paul Gray]

That's interesting. In my V7.5, the parents are not 'gender coloured' just as 
in V8. I assume that's because there is a 'male' and 'female' position so the 
gender is already stated.

If and when same sex unions are supported then the colour coding would be 
useful. (Not trying to take a position or start a discussion on supporting/not 
supporting same sex relationships in the software).


Paul Gray






-Original Message-
From: Graham Love [mailto:love-fam...@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: January-07-14 9:48 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Gender colors

I must be missing something - while the children are set to gender colours the 
parents are not. I used to have them in different colours in L7.
Graham

Sent from my iPad

 On 6 Jan 2014, at 11:58, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 Options  Change Colours
 click on any child's name to bring up the gender colour selections.

 Brian
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 br...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


 On 06-Jan-2014 1:54 AM, Robert57P_gmail wrote:
 Where do I change the color of male, female, unknown?  I can find it
 in ver 7.5, but can not find it in version 8.

 I like to go with the stereotypical colors Blue = boy pink (or red) =
 girl purple = unknown (combination of blue/red)

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RE: [LegacyUG] New computer: what order to do these?

[Paul Gray]

Charles,



I must say that I have not yet removed V7, but in my view the argument for 
removing it is that for most of us, it serves no purpose. Since the file 
structures are different, one would need to main dual data entry if one was to 
keep both databases current. And, for most of us, that’s unnecessary and a 
waste of time.



If one is not going to keep the database current, there is simply no reason to 
keep the program around.



Just my two cents.



Paul Gray



From: Charles Apple [mailto:apple1...@centurylink.net]
Sent: January-06-14 1:56 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] New computer: what order to do these?



Seriously, what is the argument for NOT keeping both V7 and V8 on the same 
computer?



Charles



From: Mary Young [mailto:m...@cmy.org.uk]
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 2:08 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New computer: what order to do these?



On 6 January 2014 13:16, Duane Baker dbake...@yahoo.com wrote:



What is the argument for keeping both V7 and V8 on the same computer?



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RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage Status

[Paul Gray]

I would first check option 8.10 and see whether ‘On Marriage Info” is selected.



Paul Gray



From: John Roose [mailto:jbro...@gmail.com]
Sent: December-16-13 1:56 PM
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Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage Status



In V 8 I entered a known spouse to Mary Smith and the fact that they divorced - 
but the status (Divorced) does not show up in the Marriage record in Family 
View. I then added a date, but still there was no recognition in the Marriage 
pane. Is this a bug or have I missed something (I read the printed manual and 
checked the help files).



I went back to my copy of V 7 and confirmed that it does work there.

Genealogy - - - - - it's in my blood!



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RE: [LegacyUG] FS 'Arrows'

[Paul Gray]

Hi Larry,

I can see the arrows on the husband, wife, and parents (as your graphic 
illustrated) if I start family view with one of the other's children's views 
set, and I then change the view to scrolling list. I can navigate up and down 
the generations and the arrows continue to display.

However, if I then leave family view (say go to pedigree view) and then return 
to family view, there are no arrows for husband, wife, parents. Similarly, if I 
exit Legacy with the children's list set to scrolling list (making it my 
default view) when I restart Legacy in family view the arrows don't appear.

Was your screen print from the first scenario I described (changing children's 
view on the fly), or based on a permanently set children's view of scrolling 
list?

Paul Gray










From: Larry Lee [mailto:ldlee...@gmail.com]
Sent: December-14-13 11:33 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FS 'Arrows'

Paul,

They are showing up on the sample file for me.

Do you have option 1.8 checked?
Maybe you have a color combination that makes them hard to see. On my screen 
they are grey on a dark green and are a little hard to see.




Larry Lee
ldlee...@gmail.com


On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Paul Gray graypa...@outlook.com wrote:
Brian,

OK, I understand why they don't show up on the children's grid list. Actually 
though, I wasn't even looking at the kids, I was looking at husband, wife, and 
parents. There are no arrows anywhere on the family view screen when child 
scrolling list (grid) view is selected.

I can always go to pedigree view for the parents and grandparents, I guess.

Paul Gray

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From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: December-14-13 8:31 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FS 'Arrows'

This is by design. The Grid is like a spreadsheet display of data from the data 
base. There is no way to add extras like the arrow graphics for LFS links like 
we can in the children lines of family view.

I do not see any arrows on the pop up children lists in pedigree view either. 
Yes they are on the people in the pedigree view but not on the grid lists in 
the pop up.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
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On 12/12/2013 3:12 PM, Paul Gray wrote:
 The FS arrows beside names are not appearing in Family View when the
 children's list view display option is set the new 'scrolling list (grid)'
 format. All is fine if the children's list view is any of the old
 options ( 1, 2, 3 or best fit columns).

 The arrows are there in pedigree view, regardless of children's list option.

 Option 1.8 Integrate with Family Search is checked.

 Clicking On Family Search in the ribbon or quick access bar still
 opens Legacy FS properly, it's just a display issue I believe.

 Release 8.0.0.361, Legacy FS Release 8.0.543 but I think this was
 happening before.

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RE: [LegacyUG] FS 'Arrows'

[Paul Gray]

Larry and Jenny,

Thanks for your assistance.

Problem reported ticket 1FA-1A3CEDD2-0403

Paul Gray

-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]

On 15/12/2013 16:46, Paul Gray wrote:
 However, if I then leave family view (say go to pedigree view) and
 then return to family view, there are no arrows for husband, wife,
 parents.

Yes, I can duplicate that.

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RE: [LegacyUG] FS 'Arrows'

[Paul Gray]

John,

Thanks for testing this some more. It does not matter whether there are 
children or not, it matters what the children's list view is set to. With the 
children's list view set to any of the 'old formats' (1,2,3, or best fit 
columns), arrows in FV are fine.

If I have a person with no children, but the children's list view is set to 
scrolling list, I don't get the arrows either.

I can get the arrows to appear in FV, on the husband or wife, if I click once 
to 'highlight them' i.e. get the thick underline at the bottom. It is like that 
action initiates the logic to display the arrows.

Brian has explained why the arrows do not appear on the children list in the 
scrolling list view. It's seems that the retrieval/display logic for the upper 
fields (husband/wife/parents) is only executed if it is also executed in the 
children's list.

Paul Gray

-Original Message-
From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com]
Sent: December-15-13 1:53 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] FS 'Arrows'

Paul and Jenny,

Please check if this FS Arrows problem happens for you with everyone or only 
with families in FV with no children?

Also check if having a PP Alert changes anything.

What I am seeing in further testing is that if a FV family does not have 
children, neither PP Alerts nor FS Arrows are drawn when going from PV to FV. 
But otherwise, they are not a problem.

john.

At 01:13 PM 12/15/2013, Paul Gray wrote:
Larry and Jenny,

Thanks for your assistance.

Problem reported ticket 1FA-1A3CEDD2-0403

Paul Gray

-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]

On 15/12/2013 16:46, Paul Gray wrote:
  However, if I then leave family view (say go to pedigree view) and
  then return to family view, there are no arrows for husband, wife,
  parents.

Yes, I can duplicate that.

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RE: [LegacyUG] With Legacy: Carbonite, Dropbox, SkyDrive, Mozy, etc.?

[Paul Gray]

Hi Dee,



First of all, it depends upon intended use. Do you have just one computer, or 
do you wish to sync your data to two or more computers? If you have only one 
computer, your cloud storage is really only for backup. If two or more, you 
need a product that not only backs up you data, but also syncs multiple 
computers. Dropbox and Skydrive backup and sync, I believe Carbonite is backup 
only.



Also, be aware that Legacy does not actually work with files in the cloud. You 
have a local copy of your files on your computer and that’s what Legacy is 
always using. The cloud copy is continuously updated as you work on Legacy, as 
well as the local copies of the same file on other computers if set to sync.



I have both Dropbox and Skydrive. Both are excellent products for the casual 
user like me. No experience with Carbonite or the other products. If you 
already have a Skydrive account, I would just use that.



Paul Gray



From: Dee Ziegler [mailto:dee.zieg...@gmail.com]
Sent: December-15-13 3:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] With Legacy: Carbonite, Dropbox, SkyDrive, Mozy, etc.?



Larry asked a good question, I'd also like to know, what cloud program do other 
Legacy users prefer? I'm using Windows 7 only for genealogy; unfortunately am a 
technodunce. Thanks, Dee in Maryland
===

Other than cost what is the difference between Carbonite, Dropbox and SkyDrive? 
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RE: [LegacyUG] FS 'Arrows'

[Paul Gray]

Brian,

OK, I understand why they don't show up on the children's grid list. Actually 
though, I wasn't even looking at the kids, I was looking at husband, wife, and 
parents. There are no arrows anywhere on the family view screen when child 
scrolling list (grid) view is selected.

I can always go to pedigree view for the parents and grandparents, I guess.

Paul Gray

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: December-14-13 8:31 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FS 'Arrows'

This is by design. The Grid is like a spreadsheet display of data from the data 
base. There is no way to add extras like the arrow graphics for LFS links like 
we can in the children lines of family view.

I do not see any arrows on the pop up children lists in pedigree view either. 
Yes they are on the people in the pedigree view but not on the grid lists in 
the pop up.

Brian
Customer Support
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On 12/12/2013 3:12 PM, Paul Gray wrote:
 The FS arrows beside names are not appearing in Family View when the
 children's list view display option is set the new 'scrolling list (grid)'
 format. All is fine if the children's list view is any of the old
 options ( 1, 2, 3 or best fit columns).

 The arrows are there in pedigree view, regardless of children's list option.

 Option 1.8 Integrate with Family Search is checked.

 Clicking On Family Search in the ribbon or quick access bar still
 opens Legacy FS properly, it's just a display issue I believe.

 Release 8.0.0.361, Legacy FS Release 8.0.543 but I think this was
 happening before.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Quick Access Toolbar

[Paul Gray]

Ian and Mike,



It would appear that the icons do not scale at all with the size (height) of 
the title bar. I fooled around with the height of the ‘Active toolbar” settings 
in Windows advanced display options all the way to making the title bar three 
times the height that it is by default and the icons remained the same size. I 
was able to get them a tiny bit bigger be fooling with the font setting under 
‘Design’ within Legacy itself.



Also, the Office 2007 style gives larger icons than the other styles on my 
system.



Paul Gray



From: Ian Gardener [mailto:ian3...@gmail.com]
Sent: December-14-13 4:21 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quick Access Toolbar



Then how come in legacy 7.5 they are four times the size they are in legacy 8. 
It can only scale the original icon and they are too small. I've opened the 
icons in an icon editor and they are tiny.



On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Mike Fry emjay...@gmail.com wrote:

On 2013/12/11 09:20, Ian Gardener wrote:

 Simple. The icons for quick access are way too small.

Their size is determined by the height of _EVERY_ Windows Titlebar

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RE: [LegacyUG] Family Search and Legacy

[Paul Gray]

Bryan,



I sometimes get frustrated with the quality of FS Family Tree data, but it is 
what it is. It will only get cleaned up if we do it, no one else will.



The main reason I correct and merge records of my ancestors is that I want the 
data on my ancestors to be correct and widely available for future generations. 
I believe Family Search to be the best bet to be a system that is maintained 
and available indefinitely. And it is free to all. I am not LDS so I don’t use 
any of the ordinance tracking.



It will take time. I’m only looking at direct ancestors (grandparents) for now. 
No uncles, aunts, cousins etc. Yet.



I’m in no rush. When it gets overwhelming, I remember the old saying. “How do 
you eat an elephant?”. “One bite at a time.”.



But, there are many who feel as you do. Just uncheck options 1.8 and 1.9 and 
you won’t even know it’s there.



Paul Gray



From: Bryan Pratt [mailto:brya...@slingshot.co.nz]
Sent: December-14-13 8:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Cc: Legacy
Subject: [LegacyUG] Family Search and Legacy



After ploughing along for some hours (a lot of hours) working with my Legacy 
family file and Family Search’s database, I’ve decided I’m not going to do 
Family Search’s work of spending copious hours of cleaning up their rubbishy 
data collection.

I started out hoping to help FS - I have benefitted from a lot of their data - 
and then to also pick up more data for my own family file.

But no longer am I going to trawl through for example 15 odd Margaret’s because 
they could be duplicates of my (already surnamed ) Margaret.  The FS database 
needs to be cleaned out of idiotic entries like using the above: e.g  
“Margaret, born, such and such date. Is yours the same?”, when you have already 
inputted that she was born in Ireland and married in USA.



The FS program is so user unfriendly. No ability to copy/paste for edit fields 
(except keyboard), the merge colours are hopeless to differentiate, the 
continuous re-check of duplicates is so time consuming; to name but a few.



I’m not an LDS member, and I feel we are being used to sort their agenda. 
Somehow in this amalgam of Legacy and Family Search, I feel I’ve ended up being 
a servant of the LDS to further their end.



The Legacy Family Tree software and the religious agenda need to be separated.



Bryan

NZ



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RE: [LegacyUG] Edit screen has some died in and buried in colored red.

[Paul Gray]

I think it means there is a source attached.

Paul Gray

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Sent: December-13-13 9:41 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Edit screen has some died in and buried in colored red.

List, What does  died in and buried in in red mean? I thought maybe it was if 
there was a note attached, but I noticed that I have some died in not colored 
red wirh a note attached and some died in colored red without a note.
Same thing with the buried in. I have 51 with a burial note and only one of 
them is colored red.

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[LegacyUG] FS 'Arrows'

[Paul Gray]

The FS arrows beside names are not appearing in Family View when the
children's list view display option is set the new 'scrolling list (grid)'
format. All is fine if the children's list view is any of the old options (
1, 2, 3 or best fit columns).

The arrows are there in pedigree view, regardless of children's list option.

Option 1.8 Integrate with Family Search is checked.

Clicking On Family Search in the ribbon or quick access bar still opens
Legacy FS properly, it's just a display issue I believe.

Release 8.0.0.361, Legacy FS Release 8.0.543 but I think this was happening
before.

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RE: [LegacyUG] When you die / GEDCOMS / Legacy fancy features

[Paul Gray]

OK. Maybe this is it.



This requires an additional click (select)  that (to me) is not obvious.



Assuming you are already on the share tab, you click the little arrow to the 
left of your Legacy fact in the left hand panel. This brings up a dialogue box 
and in the Actions section, it says Add event (data) to Family Search. There is 
shading behind the text sort of indicating that the action is selected, but it 
isn’t. You need to left click that line to actually ‘authorize’ the update. 
Optionally you can record something in why record is correct. Then click select 
action.



It usually will refresh the right hand panel with the new data automatically, 
but I’ve found that sometimes I need to click the refresh button on the top 
rifgt of the FSFT panel.



Paul Gray



From: Orinda Spence [mailto:crazypie...@gmail.com]
Sent: December-10-13 10:46 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] When you die / GEDCOMS / Legacy fancy features



I am trying to add more events.  Thanks.



On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Paul Gray graypa...@outlook.com wrote:

Okay, let's take this one step at a time. Are you trying to add a new person to 
FSFT that does not yet exist there, or are you trying to add more events to 
someone who is already there?



Paul Gray

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On Dec 10, 2013, at 21:33, Orinda Spence crazypie...@gmail.com wrote:

Trying to put my family tree on Family Search Family Tree is laborious.

In Legacy 7.5, I click to synchronize my profiles with Family Search and my 
stuff won't go into Family Search.  I can get information from them, but I 
can't my info on that database without going there and physically putting it in.

I am told that Legacy is the support for that.   Can someone fill me on, on how 
to synchronize?




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RE: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

[Paul Gray]

I agree that changes should be made to make more efficient use of the screen 
real estate in family view, but quite frankly I think the solution is to more 
or less revert to the way it was in 7.5. I don't think this would really 
compromise the new look and feel.

I think Husband and Wife need to stay on top, because that line is also used 
for tags. It's the same as 7.5 with the enhancement of showing more tags, it 
works just fine.

It's the next two lines where the space is wasted.

1) Why are the family search arrows on a line by themselves? Just put them on 
the right of the name like they used to be.

2) Why have that blue underline to highlight the active person? Just highlight 
the name like it used to be.

Those two simple changes will free up two lines which is significant space to 
expand the font size on the five vital events below.

Paul Gray




-Original Message-
From: Alan Pereira [mailto:alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: December-10-13 6:18 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

Thanks Mike, I have submitted a suggestion for a general Option called 
Compressed Family View where
1) the Parents label can either be turned of or place on the LHS of the data 
fields
2) the Integration Feature arrows are returned to the same place as Leg7.5 and 
remove the line under {your idea}
3) the Childrens label is placed to LHS of children data fields and othe 
childrens features similarly placed on RHS of said data fields
4) remove the line under the children's data fields.

This will result in saving 4 lines and nearly bring the font size back to that 
of a similarly sized window of Legacy7.5 Family View. The Toolbars still take 
up more space that 7.5 unless you want to put up with them minimised and have 
extra mouse control (not something I enjoy with a Laptop).

Alan Pereira

-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com]
Sent: 10 December 2013 11:17
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

On 2013/12/10 13:02, Alan Pereira wrote:

 I have noticed that the field desciptors of Parents and Children
 that appear on Family View now take up a line each of visible space.
 Can these descriptors be turned off or moved to the left hand edge of
 the data fields so as to allow for a larger stretched font in a windowed view.

If it's more space you're after. Disable the integration with FamilySearch. 
Then the dark-grey arrows disappear leaving a blank space under the names of 
the Husband and Wife. This space could also be reclaimed.

--
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RE: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

[Paul Gray]

Thanks, John. That did it. I am alive again!

Paul Gray

-Original Message-
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Sent: December-10-13 10:24 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

Paul,

Option 3.9 is what you are looking for.

john.


At 11:15 AM 12/10/2013, Paul Gray wrote:
Hmmm. I don't get that on my screen. Husband, wife, kid numbers are all
black, living or dead. Looked for a possible wrong setting.
Option 9.2 --- Other Colors Tab -- Living Indicator (bottom on
panel) is set to red. Is there somewhere else I should be looking, or
something that is overriding this selection?

Paul Gray



-Original Message-
From: C.G. Ouimet [mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com]
Sent: December-10-13 8:28 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

Ah ... Thanks Brian ...

Apparently, I died ... I better document that ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON


-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: December 10, 2013 10:03 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

They are living. Red is the default text colour to indicate living
people. In the child list the number beside the child's name will be
red for living children.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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On 10/12/2013 6:57 AM, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
  Yes . A senior moment .
 
  Why are the Husband and Wife sometimes red?
 
  C.G. Ouimet
 
  Kingston ON




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RE: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

[Paul Gray]

OK Jenny, I didn't have any real long names and didn't realize that. However, 
in the normal case (names that fit on one line) version 7.5 stretches the fonts 
to be very large, i.e. it uses the entire box to display the name in a very 
large font, causing it to appear like the FS arrows on 'on the same line'.

Not the biggest deal in the world, but I did appreciate the old way making the 
font as large as possible.


Paul Gray



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From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]

On 10/12/2013 16:55, Paul Gray wrote:
 It's the next two lines where the space is wasted.

 1) Why are the family search arrows on a line by themselves? Just put
 them on the right of the name like they used to be.

The FS arrows aren't always on a line by themselves.  If you have anyone with a 
rather long name that wraps over to the second line and the FS arrows remain on 
the end of that same line.
--
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RE: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

[Paul Gray]

Oops. I spoke to soon, Jenny. Not enough testing. 7.5 does not make the font 
size any larger when the name fits on one line vs. two lines. What is different 
is that 7.5 vertically centers the name and the FS arrows in the box. Version 
8.0 aligns the name to the top of the box, and the FS arrows to the bottom of 
the box hence the different appearance.

I think centering the text leaving equal white space above and below the name 
looks a bit better, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over the new 
presentation.

Paul Gray



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Sent: December-10-13 11:36 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Field Descriptors in Family View

OK Jenny, I didn't have any real long names and didn't realize that. However, 
in the normal case (names that fit on one line) version 7.5 stretches the fonts 
to be very large, i.e. it uses the entire box to display the name in a very 
large font, causing it to appear like the FS arrows on 'on the same line'.

Not the biggest deal in the world, but I did appreciate the old way making the 
font as large as possible.


Paul Gray



-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]

On 10/12/2013 16:55, Paul Gray wrote:
 It's the next two lines where the space is wasted.

 1) Why are the family search arrows on a line by themselves? Just put
 them on the right of the name like they used to be.

The FS arrows aren't always on a line by themselves.  If you have anyone with a 
rather long name that wraps over to the second line and the FS arrows remain on 
the end of that same line.
--
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RE: [LegacyUG] Living indicator - was Senior Moment

[Paul Gray]

The living/dead colour is reflected in the child number. The color for the sex 
of the children (default blue for male/red for female) is a separate setting.


Paul Gray

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From: Jack Earnshaw [mailto:j...@jearnshaw.me.uk]
Sent: December-10-13 1:30 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Living indicator - was Senior Moment

I've just looked again at the colours for children. Is it supposed to be that 
all data for children reflects their sex (ie boys are blue and girls are red) 
or should the child number reflect alive/dead?

Jack

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From: Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com]
Sent: 10 December 2013 16:59
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

No, like C.G. I can assure you that I (and many others) are very much alive in 
reality as well as in the database.

Paul Gray


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From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: December-10-13 9:50 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Senior Moment

Make sure they're not flagged as dead.  It's on the Individual Information 
window next to the Title Suff field.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Paul Gray graypa...@outlook.com wrote:
 Hmmm. I don't get that on my screen. Husband, wife, kid numbers are all 
 black, living or dead. Looked for a possible wrong setting. Option 9.2 --- 
 Other Colors Tab -- Living Indicator (bottom on panel) is set to red. Is 
 there somewhere else I should be looking, or something that is overriding 
 this selection?

 Paul Gray




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RE: [LegacyUG] Quick Access Toolbar

[Paul Gray]

Ian,



Which Design style are you using? On my system, I have larger fonts, including 
larger quick access icons if I use  the Office 2007 and Office 2010 designs. 
However, I have set my windows “advanced appearance settings” to font size 12 
for active title bar. So, I think maybe those styles look at Windows settings.



Personally, I use the design style ‘system’ and get smaller icons and text but 
I live with that because I like as much screen real estate down below in family 
view as possible.



So, first you may wish to play around with different design styles. Beyond 
that, I’m hoping someone with more detailed technical knowledge of the options 
(if any) will chime in.



Paul Gray



From: Ian Gardener [mailto:ian3...@gmail.com]
Sent: December-10-13 7:58 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quick Access Toolbar



Not so I'm afraid. I'm using Win7. If I open up Legacy 7.x, the icons in the 
access bar are four times the size they are when I open Legacy 8 on the same pc 
with the same settings.



On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Ian,

This is a function of Windows.

In Windows 8.1 it's in Control Panel - Display
where you can make the size of all items larger or smaller.

If you find the Windows option and the Quick
Access Toolbar still isn't large enough then the
option is to set up the My Toolbar Ribbon instead and use that.

Thanks for the query. I hadn't thought of that and will try it larger myself.
Cathy


At 10:11 AM 11/12/2013, you wrote:
In Legacy 8 the Quick Access Toolbar is so small
that I struggle to see it even with my work

glasses on. Is there a way to make it bigger?Â





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RE: [LegacyUG] Quick Access Toolbar

[Paul Gray]

Ian,



In addition to Design “Style”, there is design “Fonts”. Changing Fonts (Normal, 
Large, Extra Large) also has some impact on Quick Access Icon size. Try fooling 
around with combinations of design style and font to see what you can 
accomplish.



Paul Gray



From: Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com]
Sent: December-10-13 8:51 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Quick Access Toolbar



Ian,



Which Design style are you using? On my system, I have larger fonts, including 
larger quick access icons if I use  the Office 2007 and Office 2010 designs. 
However, I have set my windows “advanced appearance settings” to font size 12 
for active title bar. So, I think maybe those styles look at Windows settings.



Personally, I use the design style ‘system’ and get smaller icons and text but 
I live with that because I like as much screen real estate down below in family 
view as possible.



So, first you may wish to play around with different design styles. Beyond 
that, I’m hoping someone with more detailed technical knowledge of the options 
(if any) will chime in.



Paul Gray



From: Ian Gardener [mailto:ian3...@gmail.com]
Sent: December-10-13 7:58 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Quick Access Toolbar



Not so I'm afraid. I'm using Win7. If I open up Legacy 7.x, the icons in the 
access bar are four times the size they are when I open Legacy 8 on the same pc 
with the same settings.



On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Ian,

This is a function of Windows.

In Windows 8.1 it's in Control Panel - Display
where you can make the size of all items larger or smaller.

If you find the Windows option and the Quick
Access Toolbar still isn't large enough then the
option is to set up the My Toolbar Ribbon instead and use that.

Thanks for the query. I hadn't thought of that and will try it larger myself.
Cathy


At 10:11 AM 11/12/2013, you wrote:
In Legacy 8 the Quick Access Toolbar is so small
that I struggle to see it even with my work

glasses on. Is there a way to make it bigger?Â





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Re: [LegacyUG] When you die / GEDCOMS / Legacy fancy features

[Paul Gray]

Okay, let's take this one step at a time. Are you trying to add a new person to 
FSFT that does not yet exist there, or are you trying to add more events to 
someone who is already there?

Paul Gray

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 On Dec 10, 2013, at 21:33, Orinda Spence crazypie...@gmail.com wrote:

 Trying to put my family tree on Family Search Family Tree is laborious.  
 In Legacy 7.5, I click to synchronize my profiles with Family Search and my 
 stuff won't go into Family Search.  I can get information from them, but I 
 can't my info on that database without going there and physically putting it 
 in.

 I am told that Legacy is the support for that.   Can someone fill me on, on 
 how to synchronize?


 On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Mike Fry emjay...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2013/12/08 06:58, Orinda Spence wrote:

  Today, I searched 2 names, a married couple, and there were 157 duplicates.
  How does one handle something like that.  The names are so common, a 
  search when
  done is well -- 157 choices.

 One by one. It's a slow, slow process.

 --
 Regards,
 Mike Fry
 Johannesburg (g)



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RE: [LegacyUG] Backup files

[Paul Gray]

Those files are not backup files. Main.fdb is a regular family file, the rc3 
file is the associated relationships. The compressed backup files have an 
extension of .zip and it’s those that are compressed. There will be one for 
your main database, and (if you have set the option) one for your multimedia.



Paul Gray



From: John Gregson [mailto:jfgreg...@shaw.ca]
Sent: December-09-13 2:03 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Backup files



I am using version 7.5.0.278

I note that when I use the file backup; from File I get two
files in the backup folder.
Main.fdb  and Main~Rc3.Rc3

I also note that these files are compressed.

-What are the Rc3 files?
-Is there any way to turnoff the file compression?

 John.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Organizing Data Files

[Paul Gray]

Prescott,

You can create subfolders as you wish. The location option (I assume you are 
referring to 6.1) is simply a default location for NEW family files. Nothing 
more.

If you create subfolders under Legacy Family Tree\Data and move your various 
family files as appropriate, Legacy will see those locations and remember them.

Remember also to set option 1.2 to define which file you want to open on 
start-up (last one used, present a list, or always open a specific file)



Paul Gray

-Original Message-
From: grayscot2 [mailto:graysc...@gmail.com]
Sent: December-08-13 8:10 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Organizing Data Files




The sub-directory Data under Legacy Family Tree, wherever you keep 
it, gets pretty messy with multiple trees.  Anyone have a good way to keep down 
the confusion?

I'd like to put all the files for each tree in a Data sub-folder, but 
the location option has to be set to just one sub-folder:   Legacy Family 
Tree\Data.  Won't all the files and backups get dumped into Data on closing, 
even if I open them from each of the trees sub-folders in Data.?


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Re: [LegacyUG] Organizing Data Files

[Paul Gray]

Prescott,

I should also have noted that you can set your backup folders in file -- 
backup family file to go to whatever folders you wish as well.

Paul Gray

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 On Dec 8, 2013, at 21:01, grayscot2 graysc...@gmail.com wrote:

 December



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RE: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

[Paul Gray]

Strangest thing, the recent files list appears dependent upon the Design Style 
chosen. System and Office 2007 show the list, Office 2010 and Windows 7 Scenic 
does not. (at least on my system).



Paul Gray





From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: December-07-13 4:45 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8



Very strange, they are still.there for me in V8.0.0.358.

Suggest a reinstallation might help.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/




From: Randy Clark [mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com]
Sent: November 27, 2013 12:07 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8



I think you can see them by clicking the big L in the upper left.



On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:

A list of recent files would be helpful like you get with MS Office 
applications. Especially useful when you pin favourites ...


C.G. Ouimet
Kingston ON









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RE: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

[Paul Gray]

Well, actually it does make sense. The 'System' drop dropdown is only available 
in certain 'styles' and it makes perfect sense that different styles operate 
differently. Otherwise, they wouldn't be different, would they? Anyway, mystery 
solved, recent files list always available.

Paul Gray

-Original Message-
From: JV Leavitt [mailto:jleavi...@att.net]
Sent: December-07-13 5:18 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

Yes, I see that you are right about the way it displays.  I wouldn't have 
thought there would be a difference. However, the recent files list is visible 
in any case, either by clicking on the big L when it is showing, or by clicking 
on the word System, just under a smaller L Icon in the upper left corner, when 
that is showing.

Joseph Leavitt


On 12/7/2013 4:09 PM, Paul Gray wrote:

 Strangest thing, the recent files list appears dependent upon the
 Design Style chosen. System and Office 2007 show the list, Office 2010
 and Windows 7 Scenic does not. (at least on my system).

 Paul Gray

 *From:*Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
 *Sent:* December-07-13 4:45 PM
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

 Very strange, they are still.there for me in V8.0.0.358.

 Suggest a reinstallation might help.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/


 *From:*Randy Clark [mailto:ceddaco...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* November 27, 2013 12:07 PM
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 mailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] open file Legacy8

 I think you can see them by clicking the big L in the upper left.

 On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:52 AM, C.G. Ouimet c.g.oui...@outlook.com
 mailto:c.g.oui...@outlook.com wrote:

 A list of recent files would be helpful like you get with MS Office
 applications. Especially useful when you pin favourites ...


 C.G. Ouimet
 Kingston ON






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RE: [LegacyUG] Update or Wait

[Paul Gray]

John,

I doubt that waiting will prove to be of any advantage, but it isn't going to 
hurt either.

Much of the discussion has been around 'installation issues' and in particular 
the changes to the install (if one chooses defaults) to Windows standard 
locations (Program files/My Documents). Waiting isn't going change anything. 
However, if you told us what your current installation looks like (do you have 
everything installed, including media in C:\Legacy - the old Legacy standard), 
or elsewhere. Knowing what you have for current configuration would provide us 
the opportunity to give some tips that might simplify things and prevent 
problems.



Paul Gray

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From: John Gregson [mailto:jfgreg...@shaw.ca]
Sent: December-06-13 2:04 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Update or Wait

I have Legacy 7.5.0.278; on a Win 7 computer.
I have been following the traffic on the List, and I get the feeling that 
perhaps I should wait; perhaps for 8.1 to come out before I upgrade.

The traffic on the List, for the most part,  seems to come from users who are 
very knowledgeable with computers; but I am not one such.

Any comments?  I do not want to get into a situation that is beyond my 
knowledge to fix.

John.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 GEDcom import issues

[Paul Gray]

Hi Dorothy,



Can you give us some information about what happened on the laptop? Did you 
import the GED into Legacy or some other program? How did you update data on 
the laptop?



Paul Gray



From: Dorothy Klein [mailto:scubam...@aol.com]
Sent: December-04-13 11:41 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7.5 GEDcom import issues



Dear Group

For a recent research trip I exported a GED Legacy file from my main computer 
to a laptop. On my return I imported onto the main computer the updated GED 
Legacy file. At first no one appeared in the Index view, but then I saved the 
file (backing it up) and when I reoped it i was able to use the Index view. 
Unfortunately none of the media files linked back onto the main computer. 
According to the error report they are all missing. How can I rectify this?



Also in another error report of missing/erroneous data it says F1499 family has 
the wrong date format. I can I find family 1499. I know how to find individuals 
but not family numbers.



Thanks in advance,

Dottie





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RE: [LegacyUG] Migrating Pictures etc from 7.5 Folder to 8 Media Folder

[Paul Gray]

Wesley,



I am trying to understand your situation but I can’t. Please bear with me as I 
ask in a different way questions I’m sure you have already answered.. I am 
absolutely positive that your media can stay exactly where they are, and that 
there is no reason to change anything. I have my media (only a few items) on a 
separate drive, and they are linked identically in 7.5 and 8.0.



I don’t think what’s in 6.2 has anything to do with existing links.



So, with respect to your existing media, are the links to the K drive not 
there? I think you are saying that you can no longer see the images, is that 
true?



Paul Gray





From: Wesley Johnston [mailto:wwjohnsto...@yahoo.com]
Sent: December-03-13 11:20 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Migrating Pictures etc from 7.5 Folder to 8 Media Folder



Your configuration of folders is very similar to mine, and like yours I have 
been using this setup for years - many years. And no prior Legacy upgrade has 
caused any problems with this, since I could always customize the locations for 
each type of folder.

But Legacy 8 is clearly different in this regard, since this level of 
granularity is no longer there in the customization options. And the Media 
Relinker does not appear to have a granularity level below that of entire hard 
drive.

So I am stuck here, not knowing what my choices are in terms of their long-term 
implications

So I am in a situation that I need to know what to do to properly restore the 
images that are no longer showing (except for one) on the first tree that I 
converted as a guinea pig. (I have a great many more trees that all reference 
the same pool of folders of Legacy-related media files. So I want to make sure 
that I do this first one right, since making the wrong decision up front could 
have a lot of consequences.)



I am going to copy and paste again here the current state of my understanding, 
based on Brian's note, so that he can clarify this. I really need to know the 
full implications of the choices that are available to me, since there are so 
many files involved.



 repeat of questions for Brian -

It looks like I am either being forced to either (a) dedicate my entire K drive 
to Legacy by the Media Relinker looking only at the entire drive and not at a 
specific designated folder and all of its sub-folders or (b) dump all my files 
into a single Media folder, dealing with file name duplications in the short 
term and a massive hodge-podge of files on an on-going basis for as long as I 
use Legacy in the future.



Are these really my only two choices?



If those are really what I am being forced to do, then I will have to go with 
B, ugly as it is.

 end of repeat of questions for Brian -



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To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 9:54 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Migrating Pictures etc from 7.5 Folder to 8 Media Folder



The way I do it set up customized folders.  A main folder for just photos of 
people and cemeteries.  The second one is just for source images.  The people 
photos folder has subfolders according to surnames; cemeteries by the name of 
the cemetery and surnames for those I have photos of graves.



For source images, I have subfolders by category:  census, obituaries, letters, 
certificates (birth, marriage, death), etc.  I also have a category for text 
items and PDF files.



If you set this up first and get it organized, it will be easier to find your 
images.  The only thing is you may have to relink everything or get Legacy to 
do it for you.  I've been using the same setup for years when I was using other 
software and they were all pointed to these folders.  Lumping everything 
together in one folder is a terrible idea because when you start getting into 
hundreds of images, it's a very slow process trying to find anything.  I always 
select to leave my images where they are and not copy them.  I haven't found a 
way to make this a permanent selection within Legacy 8 or I overlooked it.



Bill Boswell



From: Wesley Johnston [mailto:wwjohnsto...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:57 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Migrating Pictures etc from 7.5 Folder to 8 Media Folder



I am still not clear what to do here.



I see that the Option 6.2 is for those people willing to let Legacy manage 
their media and store it all in a single location, which may be what I wind up 
being forced to do, even though it will cause a great deal of immediate term 
work and a lot more on-going management effort on my part  because everything 
is lumped together in one enormous folder with no way other than file name and 
file type to distinguish people pix from source pix from video clips from 
location pix ...



That is because the Media Relinker tool does not seem to have a granularity 
finer than entire disk drive level. My K drive

RE: [LegacyUG] Migrating Pictures etc from 7.5 Folder to 8 Media Folder

[Paul Gray]

Hi again Wesley,



In an earlier post, you said:



I keep all my Legacy files on a different hard drive (K) than the default. 
There, under Legacy, I have folders for Geo, Pix, Sounds, Videos ... which were 
the Legacy 7.5 file structure.



So, that the media folder structure we want to maintain, no reason to change. 
I’m wondering what you have in option 6.2 now?



Perhaps the first thing that needs to be done is to put K:\Legacy\Geo, 
K:\Legacy\Pix etc. (or whatever their exact paths are) into the Master Media 
Folder List. That should tell Legacy what the high level folders are for all of 
your existing media. I would think that would be enough, but maybe the media 
relinker needs to be run. I don’t understand why it would need to be since you 
haven’t moved anything, but who knows?



There is a solution out there, we just need to figure out what it is.



Paul Gray








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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy V.7.5 and v.8

[Paul Gray]

Yes, you can and that (IMHO) is a good thing to do. When you first open a file 
in Legacy 8 it converts the file format, so I found it easiest to create a new 
file that will be the one to be converted. There are many ways to do this, but 
here’s what I did.



Let’s say you currently have a file called Simoneau.fdb



1.  I would open that file in 7.5



2.  Then do File ---à Save Family File As V8Simoneau.fdb



3.  You will now have two files, both in 7.5 format.



4.  When you first open your file in 8.0, select the one called V8Simoneau 
and it will convert that to the new file format.



You can continue to use Simoneau in 7.5, and you can use V8Simoneau when 
working in Legacy 8.0 until you decide that all is OK and you fully convert to 
using 8.0.



Paul Gray













From: Pierre Simoneau [mailto:pierre6simon...@yahoo.ca]
Sent: December-03-13 2:00 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy V.7.5 and v.8



Can I leave  Legacy v.7.5 and install Legacy v.8 without sharing v.7.5 database 
? If so, how ?



Pierre Simoneau

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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy V.7.5 and v.8 - Notes not converted

[Paul Gray]

I believe this is a bug. If you are using the standard (free edition) this is a 
known problem. They appear fine in Deluxe (paid). Rest assured, they are in the 
file, just temporarily invisible.



If you are using Deluxe (paid), that’s a separate issue.





Paul Gray



From: Pierre Simoneau [mailto:pierre6simon...@yahoo.ca]
Sent: December-03-13 6:42 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy V.7.5 and v.8 - Notes not converted



V.8 converted my v.7 .fdb file. Notes  (general) were not converted. What's the 
problem ?



Pierre Simoneau






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RE: [LegacyUG] Family Search Integration [was: E mail test and customer number]

[Paul Gray]

Bill,

Transferring sources (both ways) should be coming in the future. It is required 
by Family Search to get their highest level of certification, Tree Share Plus.

However, as you have probably noticed, sourcing in Family Search is quite 
basic, so I think there may be issues getting the data formatted properly (or 
more specifically to the user's preference) when downloading to Legacy. I have 
looked at Roots Magic which does have this capability (no, I'm not converting) 
and it just adds a 'free form' source. No use of templates such as source 
writer.

It will be interesting to see how the programmers handle it, because I suspect 
all that is provided by Family Search is one long complete citation, although I 
don't know that for sure.

But, yes I expect that source transfers (both ways) are coming!

Paul Gray


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Sent: December-02-13 7:54 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Family Search Integration [was: E mail test and 
customer number]

Thanks for that explanation.  I noticed when I add information to my tree, it 
doesn't download any source information especially who provided it.  Just the 
FS number.  I have to go to the website to get that information.  I hope the 
next level of certification provides better sourcing tools.

Bill

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From: John B. Lisle [mailto:leg...@tqsi.com]
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 12:30 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Family Search Integration [was: E mail test and 
customer number]

Bill,

Let me start out by saying that I am not a FS expert, but I have played with it 
and done a bit of testing.

I think I can give some guidance.

1/ As far as I know, there is going to be little printed documentation on the 
Family Search module. There is a limited amount in Help. Geoff's strategy for 
training this has been short videos.
You will notice that the Help menu and the top line of FS have links to watch 
videos. These should be your first line of understanding the module.

2/ When you set Option 1.11 in Legacy to integrate with FamilySearch, you are 
only enabling the ability to link your Family File to the FamilySearch Tree 
database. At this point no information has been exchanged.

3/ When you link a person in the Family Search DB with your Family File, what 
you are doing is adding the FS ID of the person in the FS DB to the Family 
Search ID field for person in your Family File. I consider this fairly 
innocuous, as no data is exchanges either way.
The arrows go from gray-gray to become red-red because no information has been 
exchanged.

4/ Once you have made a link, you can now add information to the Family Search 
tree. As you had to login to use the tree, any information that you add is now 
in the tree and credited to you, no matter if you break the link or not. It is 
now available for everyone.

5/ If you add information from FS into your Family File, it is added and does 
not go away because you broke the link.

6/ There is much more that is done and some of the activities need to be done 
on the Family Search web site.

Family Search can be a very powerful addition to your research. And 
contributing your information is going to make the FS tree all the more potent 
as a research tool.

As I said in a previous message, many serious researchers - I know of many from 
the Guild of One Name Studies (London) - who are using Family Search tree as 
the place they archive their research.

AND, if you are an LDS member, FM is the site through which you organize your 
Temple work.

Please note that Legacy Family Search on L7.5 and L8 is identical.
Major updates to both versions have been released in the last 30 days. And this 
module is awaiting the next level of certification which will mean that users 
will be able to access more functionality from the Legacy module.

john.




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RE: [LegacyUG] Mouse scrolling in grids

[Paul Gray]

Hmmm.

I still can't get it to work. Cursor still blinking. Might there be some option 
that needs to be set a certain way?

(win 7, 64 bit, Legacy 8 Deluxe build 356, Microsoft mouse (pretty standard 
driver, I think))

Paul Gray

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From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: December-02-13 9:08 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mouse scrolling in grids

It takes a second click then the cursor no longer blinks in the top items. Now 
the scroll wheel will work.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

On 02/12/2013 8:08 AM, Sebastian Masch wrote:
 Hello

 I finally got 8 to run and stumbled over a problem in the Index View
 and the children list in the Family View. In the Index View I can't
 scroll the list with the mouse wheel as long the search boxes RIN,
 Given or Surname have the focus (blinking cursor). In 7.5 I could just
 click into to the list and then scroll up and down with the wheel.
 What secret key combination or mouse gesture will let me use it in 8?
 In the Family View it's the same with the children list, I use the
 scrolling list feature. The mouse wheel simply doesn't work.
 Also a single click on a child opens its Family View, how can I change
 it to a double click? This single click behavior is quite confusing.
 7.5 had the problem too, but it had a nice popup when hovering over a
 child, that helped a bit.

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RE: [LegacyUG] One descendant of four in a family is not showing her descendants

[Paul Gray]

Hi Fred,



Did you look at the Private indicator on the marriage record?



Paul Gray



From: Fred H [mailto:fwh...@gmail.com]
Sent: December-02-13 2:28 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] One descendant of four in a family is not showing her 
descendants



On the Family tab, all 4 children show. Clicking on the Descendant tab, all 
descendant's show up for 3 of the 4 children.

Judith is not showing that she is married, has a son, and grand children.



Clicking on her name takes me to her Family page. There it shows her husband, 
and son. I clicked on her husband to go to his individual information page, 
verifying that the privacy settings were set to Not Private which they are. 
Did the same for Judith, same settings.



I'm puzzled why her husband and siblings are not showing up on any reports or 
lists.



Need help on this one please.



Thank You

Fred













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