Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage list output

[Brian Kelly]

Theresa,

There is no ability in Legacy to export the marriage list to a .csv file 
at this time. There is a suggestion entered to implement this but there 
is no information on when or if it will be added to Legacy.


Brian Kelly

On 03-Jan-18 3:22 PM, Teresa Williams wrote:

Hi

it's easy to get the Names List 'printed" to a CSV file. But I cannot see a way 
to get similar output for the Marriage List.

Am I missing something?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage list output

[Teresa Williams]

>
> Hi
> 
> it's easy to get the Names List 'printed" to a CSV file. But I cannot see a 
> way to get similar output for the Marriage List.
> 
> Am I missing something? 
> 
> Teresa--
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Repyling to my own uestion with a work-around in case anyone else needs it:

I often underestimate the search list. But I have a friend who eminds me not 
to! Hre's what he suggested:

 - clear search list
 - do a detailed search: first condition Marriage, looking for Marriage Date 
equal to (leave value blank)
 - add a second condition with OR between the two, looking for Marriage Date 
not equal to (leave value blank)
 - do the search, and output to a CSV file in the usual way.

He's cryptic, but it works I think.

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[LegacyUG] Marriage list output

[Teresa Williams]

Hi

it's easy to get the Names List 'printed" to a CSV file. But I cannot see a way 
to get similar output for the Marriage List.

Am I missing something? 

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[LegacyUG] Marriage List

[Sarah Lange]

Three years ago, I printed a very nice "Marriage List" which only
included the ancestors of my son. I have revisited this report and now
wish to redo it and add the names of the parents for each entry. I
can't for the life of me, figure out how to print this report using
only the "Tagged Persons" that include my ancestors. Help!
Sarah Lange, Michigan
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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List

[Bill Duxbury]

Thanks Cathy, as my desktop is down for the moment (I am using my laptop for 
this conversation) I shall have to wait until my wife gets off her computer and 
call up her Legacy program.

I’ll get back to you sometime.

Bill

From: Cathy Pinner
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 12:15 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List

Bill,
if you are using another program, the problem may be with that program.

The gedcom should have the information they didn't marry in it if you've 
checked the box that they didn't marry but to be absolutely sure, make the 
Marriage Status for them in Legacy Unmarried.

To see that it's in the gedcom, import it back into Legacy to a new file.

Cathy

Bill Duxbury wrote:


  Hello Cathy, I use an external program to print in PDF format the
  content of a Gedcom file. That PDF indicates he married both the
  partner and his wife.
  Is there a way for Legacy 8 Deluxe to present the information that he
  did not marry his first partner. Perhaps Legacy may need a symbol for
  Partners as well as the Spouse one.
  Thanks
  Bill
  *From:* Cathy Pinner
  *Sent:* Friday, December 30, 2016 11:22 AM
  *To :* Legacy User Group
  *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List
  Hello Bill,

  Repeat in different words.

  "spouse" in "Spouse list" and "marriage" in "Marriage list" don't say
  anything about whether the couple were married or not.
  They're just reporting couple relationships that you've entered or
  implied by adding a child to one parent.

  The Marriage List is NOT saying he married twice. It is saying he had
  two relationships - just as you explained he did.

  Cathy

  Bill Duxbury wrote:



Hello Cathy, the problem is that although he did not marry the partner
his spouse link shows he had two spouses hence, I presume, is the
reason the Marriage List shows he did marry twice.
*From:* Cathy Pinner
*Sent:* Friday, December 30, 2016 9:40 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List
Bill,
All relationships will be in the Marriage l ist. That is shortcut for
Marriage/Relationship just like the Marriage Information screen is
where you enter whether a couple married or not.

Whether a partner is entered or unknown, all relationships where
either partner or child is entered have an MRIN so are in the
"Marriage" List.

Is that the problem?

Or does a report say that he married the first person?

Cathy


Bill Duxbury wrote:




  Hello, I have a person who was with a partner. On that page I have
  Partners indicated and not Husband and Wife. The not married box is
  also ticked.
  Some years later he married another person and that page indicates
  Husband and Wife. The problem is that his spouse link indicates he
  married the first person and this also is recorded as such in the
  *Marriage List. Is there a way to rectify this entry. Thanks, Bill.










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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List

[Cathy Pinner]

Bill,
if you are using another program, the problem may be with that program.

The gedcom should have the information they didn't marry in it if you've 
checked the box that they didn't marry but to be absolutely sure, make 
the Marriage Status for them in Legacy Unmarried.


To see that it's in the gedcom, import it back into Legacy to a new file.

Cathy

Bill Duxbury wrote:


Hello Cathy, I use an external program to print in PDF format the
content of a Gedcom file. That PDF indicates he married both the
partner and his wife.
Is there a way for Legacy 8 Deluxe to present the information that he
did not marry his first partner. Perhaps Legacy may need a symbol for
Partners as well as the Spouse one.
Thanks
Bill
*From:* Cathy Pinner
*Sent:* Friday, December 30, 2016 11:22 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List
Hello Bill,

Repeat in different words.

"spouse" in "Spouse list" and "marriage" in "Marriage list" don't say
anything about whether the couple were married or not.
They're just reporting couple relationships that you've entered or
implied by adding a child to one parent.

The Marriage List is NOT saying he married twice. It is saying he had
two relationships - just as you explained he did.

Cathy

Bill Duxbury wrote:



Hello Cathy, the problem is that although he did not marry the partner
his spouse link shows he had two spouses hence, I presume, is the
reason the Marriage List shows he did marry twice.
*From:* Cathy Pinner
*Sent:* Friday, December 30, 2016 9:40 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List
Bill,
All relationships will be in the Marriage l ist. That is shortcut for
Marriage/Relationship just like the Marriage Information screen is
where you enter whether a couple married or not.

Whether a partner is entered or unknown, all relationships where
either partner or child is entered have an MRIN so are in the
"Marriage" List.

Is that the problem?

Or does a report say that he married the first person?

Cathy


Bill Duxbury wrote:




Hello, I have a person who was with a partner. On that page I have
Partners indicated and not Husband and Wife. The not married box is
also ticked.
Some years later he married another person and that page indicates
Husband and Wife. The problem is that his spouse link indicates he
married the first person and this also is recorded as such in the
*Marriage List. Is there a way to rectify this entry. Thanks, Bill.






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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List

[Bill Duxbury]

Cathy, He did have two children with the partner and one child with his wife. 
Children’s names with the 1/2 symbol are correctly shown on both pages.
At the moment I just add a note on the Partners page that they did not marry 
even the not married box is ticked.

Bill



From: Bill Duxbury
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 11:35 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List

Hello Cathy, I use an external program to print in PDF format the content of a 
Gedcom file. That PDF indicates he married both the partner and his wife.
Is there a way for Legacy 8 Deluxe to present the information that he did not 
marry his first partner. Perhaps Legacy may need a symbol for Partners as well 
as the Spouse one.

Thanks

Bill

From: Cathy Pinner
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 11:22 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List

Hello Bill,

Repeat in different words.

"spouse" in "Spouse list" and "marriage" in "Marriage list" don't say anything 
about whether the couple were married or not.
They're just reporting couple relationships that you've entered or implied by 
adding a child to one parent.

The Marriage List is NOT saying he married twice. It is saying he had two 
relationships - just as you explained he did.

Cathy

Bill Duxbury wrote:


  Hello Cathy, the problem is that although he did not marry the partner
  his spouse link shows he had two spouses hence, I presume, is the
  reason the Marriage List shows he did marry twice.
  *From:* Cathy Pinner
  *Sent:* Friday, December 30, 2016 9:40 AM
  *To:* Legacy User Group
  *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List
  Bill,
  All relationships will be in the Marriage l ist. That is shortcut for
  Marriage/Relationship just like the Marriage Information screen is
  where you enter whether a couple married or not.

  Whether a partner is entered or unknown, all relationships where
  either partner or child is entered have an MRIN so are in the
  "Marriage" List.

  Is that the problem?

  Or does a report say that he married the first person?

  Cathy


  Bill Duxbury wrote:



Hello, I have a person who was with a partner. On that page I have
Partners indicated and not Husband and Wife. The not married box is
also ticked.
Some years later he married another person and that page indicates
Husband and Wife. The problem is that his spouse link indicates he
married the first person and this also is recorded as such in the
*Marriage List. Is there a way to rectify this entry. Thanks, Bill.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List

[Bill Duxbury]

Hello Cathy, I use an external program to print in PDF format the content of a 
Gedcom file. That PDF indicates he married both the partner and his wife.
Is there a way for Legacy 8 Deluxe to present the information that he did not 
marry his first partner. Perhaps Legacy may need a symbol for Partners as well 
as the Spouse one.

Thanks

Bill

From: Cathy Pinner
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 11:22 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List

Hello Bill,

Repeat in different words.

"spouse" in "Spouse list" and "marriage" in "Marriage list" don't say anything 
about whether the couple were married or not.
They're just reporting couple relationships that you've entered or implied by 
adding a child to one parent.

The Marriage List is NOT saying he married twice. It is saying he had two 
relationships - just as you explained he did.

Cathy

Bill Duxbury wrote:


  Hello Cathy, the problem is that although he did not marry the partner
  his spouse link shows he had two spouses hence, I presume, is the
  reason the Marriage List shows he did marry twice.
  *From:* Cathy Pinner
  *Sent:* Friday, December 30, 2016 9:40 AM
  *To:* Legacy User Group
  *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List
  Bill,
  All relationships will be in the Marriage l ist. That is shortcut for
  Marriage/Relationship just like the Marriage Information screen is
  where you enter whether a couple married or not.

  Whether a partner is entered or unknown, all relationships where
  either partner or child is entered have an MRIN so are in the
  "Marriage" List.

  Is that the problem?

  Or does a report say that he married the first person?

  Cathy


  Bill Duxbury wrote:



Hello, I have a person who was with a partner. On that page I have
Partners indicated and not Husband and Wife. The not married box is
also ticked.
Some years later he married another person and that page indicates
Husband and Wife. The problem is that his spouse link indicates he
married the first person and this also is recorded as such in the
*Marriage List. Is there a way to rectify this entry. Thanks, Bill.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List

[Cathy Pinner]

Hello Bill,

Repeat in different words.

"spouse" in "Spouse list" and "marriage" in "Marriage list" don't say 
anything about whether the couple were married or not.
They're just reporting couple relationships that you've entered or 
implied by adding a child to one parent.


The Marriage List is NOT saying he married twice. It is saying he had 
two relationships - just as you explained he did.


Cathy

Bill Duxbury wrote:


Hello Cathy, the problem is that although he did not marry the partner
his spouse link shows he had two spouses hence, I presume, is the
reason the Marriage List shows he did marry twice.
*From:* Cathy Pinner
*Sent:* Friday, December 30, 2016 9:40 AM
*To:* Legacy User Group
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List
Bill,
All relationships will be in the Marriage list. That is shortcut for
Marriage/Relationship just like the Marriage Information screen is
where you enter whether a couple married or not.

Whether a partner is entered or unknown, all relationships where
either partner or child is entered have an MRIN so are in the
"Marriage" List.

Is that the problem?

Or does a report say that he married the first person?

Cathy


Bill Duxbury wrote:



Hello, I have a person who was with a partner. On that page I have
Partners indicated and not Husband and Wife. The not married box is
also ticked.
Some years later he married another person and that page indicates
Husband and Wife. The problem is that his spouse link indicates he
married the first person and this also is recorded as such in the
*Marriage List. Is there a way to rectify this entry. Thanks, Bill.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List

[Bill Duxbury]

Hello Cathy, the problem is that although he did not marry the partner his 
spouse link shows he had two spouses hence, I presume, is the reason the 
Marriage List shows he did marry twice.

From: Cathy Pinner
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 9:40 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List

Bill,
All relationships will be in the Marriage list. That is shortcut for 
Marriage/Relationship just like the Marriage Information screen is where you 
enter whether a couple married or not.

Whether a partner is entered or unknown, all relationships where either partner 
or child is entered have an MRIN so are in the "Marriage" List.

Is that the problem?

Or does a report say that he married the first person?

Cathy


Bill Duxbury wrote:


  Hello, I have a person who was with a partner. On that page I have
  Partners indicated and not Husband and Wife. The not married box is
  also ticked.
  Some years later he married another person and that page indicates
  Husband and Wife. The problem is that his spouse link indicates he
  married the first person and this also is recorded as such in the Marriage 
List. Is there a way to rectify this entry. Thanks, Bill.


  
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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List

[Cathy Pinner]

Bill,
All relationships will be in the Marriage list. That is shortcut for 
Marriage/Relationship just like the Marriage Information screen is where 
you enter whether a couple married or not.


Whether a partner is entered or unknown, all relationships where either 
partner or child is entered have an MRIN so are in the "Marriage" List.


Is that the problem?

Or does a report say that he married the first person?

Cathy


Bill Duxbury wrote:


Hello, I have a person who was with a partner. On that page I have
Partners indicated and not Husband and Wife. The not married box is
also ticked.
Some years later he married another person and that page indicates
Husband and Wife. The problem is that his spouse link indicates he
married the first person and this also is recorded as such in the
Marriage List. Is there a way to rectify this entry. Thanks, Bill.



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[LegacyUG] Marriage List

[Bill Duxbury]

Hello, I have a person who was with a partner. On that page I have Partners 
indicated and not Husband and Wife. The not married box is also ticked.
Some years later he married another person and that page indicates Husband and 
Wife. The problem is that his spouse link indicates he married the first person 
and this also is recorded as such in the Marriage List.  Is there a way to 
rectify this entry. Thanks, Bill.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage list

[Charani]

On 03/03/2015 21:45, Jay Wilpolt wrote:
> Then why not just add
> Given name = UnknownM
> Surname = Unknown
>
> Given name = UnknownF
> Surname = Unknown
>
> When you dont have the information?
>
> This also helps to eliminate errors between data transfers when these
> fields are 'expecting" data.

Males are coloured blue and females red so I know which gender they
are.  If I want further clarification, I use Mr and Ms in the given
name fields.

I suppose I could add all the children to the notes field of both the
unknown parents, headed up "possible children" so I can easily
identify which unknown father/mother is associated with which
children, then, if I ever find the parent/s, all I have to do is
change the relevant fields.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage list

[Jay Wilpolt]

Then why not just add
Given name = UnknownM
Surname = Unknown

Given name = UnknownF
Surname = Unknown

When you dont have the information?

This also helps to eliminate errors between data transfers when these
fields are 'expecting" data.







On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Charani  wrote:

> On 03/03/2015 18:22, Jay Wilpolt wrote:
> > How else could the logic work if it didnt have SOMETHING to connect the
> > two?
>
> Logic and programming are not /necessarily/ the same thing.
>
> I'd like to be able to add children without having to enter the
> surname of a mother or father, such as when foundlings who are also
> siblings end up with different surnames but the biological parents are
> unknown so the birth surname is unknown.
>
> If I do have known siblings but no parents names, rather than add a
> father as Michele suggested, I'd add a mother because there's a 50/50
> chance the children could have been illegitimate.  I'd also be more
> likely to add an honorific in the given name field and the surname in
> brackets as I do where I don't know the maiden name of a wife.
>
> Genealogy is anything but straightforward :)
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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage list

[Charani]

On 03/03/2015 18:22, Jay Wilpolt wrote:
> How else could the logic work if it didnt have SOMETHING to connect the
> two?

Logic and programming are not /necessarily/ the same thing.

I'd like to be able to add children without having to enter the
surname of a mother or father, such as when foundlings who are also
siblings end up with different surnames but the biological parents are
unknown so the birth surname is unknown.

If I do have known siblings but no parents names, rather than add a
father as Michele suggested, I'd add a mother because there's a 50/50
chance the children could have been illegitimate.  I'd also be more
likely to add an honorific in the given name field and the surname in
brackets as I do where I don't know the maiden name of a wife.

Genealogy is anything but straightforward :)

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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage list

[Jay Wilpolt]

Yes,

How else could the logic work if it didnt have SOMETHING to connect the
two?



On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Charani  wrote:

> On 03/03/2015 16:18, Leon Chapman wrote:
> > I looked at my list and find the same problem.
> > Lots of Unknown married to Unknown.
>
> I've just produced a list of marriages and found the same thing but in
> my case I have several children who I /know/ are related but I don't
> know the names of their parents or even if the surname they used was
> their birth one.
>
> Legacy won't let you add a sibling if there isn't at least one parent.
>
> Maybe putting in one child automatically shows the unknown parents as
> that simply because the child must have had parents.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage list

[Jay Wilpolt]

Leon,

This is NOT a bug.
It's just 'leftover' data in most cases.

There are many ways these 'ghost' marriages are created and they stay in
Legacy until you delete them.
Why, because Legacy knows it isnt as smart as you are,
and never assumes that just because you are removing a spouse or child from
a marriage doesnt mean that marriage isnt valid.

If you are on the Family View, and the wife has no parents, when you click
on the 'parents' field to add someone, a marriage is created in Legacy,
even if you dont add any names.


By using a gedcom validator like Bonkers or the error checking in programs
like Genealogica Grafica, you can review your files for errors like these
that build up over time.

Hope that helps.
Jay







On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Leon Chapman  wrote:

>  Ila:
>
> I looked at my list and find the same problem.
> Lots of Unknown married to Unknown.
>
>
> This is not good and appears to be a BUG.
>
> Chap
>
> On 3/3/15 8:27 AM, Ila East wrote:
>
>  After discussing filing systems, I decided this morning to check my
> marriage list and I found hundreds of marriages with Unknown and Unknown.Â
> When I got to investigating further I found that each marriage had either a
> source attached, a marriage note, or a date. I went through a number of
> these marriages and deleted all the data and then had Legacy renumber the
> MRINs. Several were reused, but most were not. I then went through the same
> ones and made sure I removed the marriage link. These marriages disappeared
> from the screen, but when I had Legacy renumber the MRINs these were not
> reused and showed up again.
> Â
> I am assuming these marriages were created when I imported my GEDCOM file
> from FTM for the Mac after I got my Windows computer and started using
> Legacy again. It looks like each marriage was created as it should have
> been with all the data and then the marriage data was also placed in blank
> marriages thus creating these “ghost†marriages.
> Â
> I have tried compacting the family file, and check and repair but nothing
> has helped. These “darling†marriages still show up. I feel like there
> must be something I am missing and need help finding it.
> Â
> Ila East
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage list

[Michele/Support]

Charani,
You can simply add a father with the surname of the children that are siblings. 
 Leave his given name blank and don't add a wife.  This will keep your siblings 
linked together.


Michele
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-Original Message-
From: Charani [mailto:phoenixantis...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 12:34 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage list

On 03/03/2015 16:18, Leon Chapman wrote:
> I looked at my list and find the same problem.
> Lots of Unknown married to Unknown.

I've just produced a list of marriages and found the same thing but in my case 
I have several children who I /know/ are related but I don't know the names of 
their parents or even if the surname they used was their birth one.

Legacy won't let you add a sibling if there isn't at least one parent.

Maybe putting in one child automatically shows the unknown parents as that 
simply because the child must have had parents.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage list

[Charani]

On 03/03/2015 16:18, Leon Chapman wrote:
> I looked at my list and find the same problem.
> Lots of Unknown married to Unknown.

I've just produced a list of marriages and found the same thing but in
my case I have several children who I /know/ are related but I don't
know the names of their parents or even if the surname they used was
their birth one.

Legacy won't let you add a sibling if there isn't at least one parent.

Maybe putting in one child automatically shows the unknown parents as
that simply because the child must have had parents.

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Greinton and Clutton, SOM
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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage list

[Bert van Kootwijk]

I found hundreds of these marriages. They all have a marriagedate and it
appears there is a real marrige on the same date with real people.

Both GR and Beta

Bert
Dutchteam


Leon Chapman schreef op 3-3-2015 om 17:18:
> Ila:
>
> I looked at my list and find the same problem.
> Lots of Unknown married to Unknown.
>
>
> This is not good and appears to be a BUG.
>
> Chap
>
> On 3/3/15 8:27 AM, Ila East wrote:
>> After discussing filing systems, I decided this morning to check my
>> marriage list and I found hundreds of marriages with Unknown and
>> Unknown.  When I got to investigating further I found that each
>> marriage had either a source attached, a marriage note, or a date. I
>> went through a number of these marriages and deleted all the data and
>> then had Legacy renumber the MRINs. Several were reused, but most
>> were not. I then went through the same ones and made sure I removed
>> the marriage link. These marriages disappeared from the screen, but
>> when I had Legacy renumber the MRINs these were not reused and showed
>> up again.
>> Â
>> I am assuming these marriages were created when I imported my GEDCOM
>> file from FTM for the Mac after I got my Windows computer and started
>> using Legacy again. It looks like each marriage was created as it
>> should have been with all the data and then the marriage data was
>> also placed in blank marriages thus creating these “ghost” 
>> marriages.
>> Â
>> I have tried compacting the family file, and check and repair but
>> nothing has helped. These “darling” marriages still show up. I
>> feel like there must be something I am missing and need help finding it.
>> Â
>> Ila East
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage list

[Leon Chapman]

Ila:

I looked at my list and find the same problem.
Lots of Unknown married to Unknown.


This is not good and appears to be a BUG.

Chap

On 3/3/15 8:27 AM, Ila East wrote:
> After discussing filing systems, I decided this morning to check my
> marriage list and I found hundreds of marriages with Unknown and
> Unknown.  When I got to investigating further I found that each
> marriage had either a source attached, a marriage note, or a date. I
> went through a number of these marriages and deleted all the data and
> then had Legacy renumber the MRINs. Several were reused, but most were
> not. I then went through the same ones and made sure I removed the
> marriage link. These marriages disappeared from the screen, but when I
> had Legacy renumber the MRINs these were not reused and showed up again.
> I am assuming these marriages were created when I imported my GEDCOM
> file from FTM for the Mac after I got my Windows computer and started
> using Legacy again. It looks like each marriage was created as it
> should have been with all the data and then the marriage data was also
> placed in blank marriages thus creating these “ghost” marriages.
> I have tried compacting the family file, and check and repair but
> nothing has helped. These “darling” marriages still show up. I feel
> like there must be something I am missing and need help finding it.
> Ila East
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage list

[Michele/Support]

Ila,

Go to the Marriage List.

Highlight each marriage that is shown as unknown-unknown one at a time and then 
go to Options > Remove the Marriage link. If there is only one child attached 
to that marriage go ahead and remove the link.  If there are two or more 
children attached to that marriage link then don’t remove the link, instead, go 
to Edit Husband and add the surname of the children.



It is very likely you got all of the these unknown-unknowns from a gedcom 
import.





Michele

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From: Ila East [mailto:sunnydays1...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 10:27 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage list



After discussing filing systems, I decided this morning to check my marriage 
list and I found hundreds of marriages with Unknown and Unknown.  When I got to 
investigating further I found that each marriage had either a source attached, 
a marriage note, or a date. I went through a number of these marriages and 
deleted all the data and then had Legacy renumber the MRINs. Several were 
reused, but most were not. I then went through the same ones and made sure I 
removed the marriage link. These marriages disappeared from the screen, but 
when I had Legacy renumber the MRINs these were not reused and showed up again.



I am assuming these marriages were created when I imported my GEDCOM file from 
FTM for the Mac after I got my Windows computer and started using Legacy again. 
It looks like each marriage was created as it should have been with all the 
data and then the marriage data was also placed in blank marriages thus 
creating these “ghost” marriages.



I have tried compacting the family file, and check and repair but nothing has 
helped. These “darling” marriages still show up. I feel like there must be 
something I am missing and need help finding it.



Ila East

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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage list

[Ila East]

As my mother would say, when the blood got back to my brain I finally 
understood what was happening. I deleted the marriage link and that got rid of 
that marriage. But, when I had Legacy renumber the MRINs it moved a “ghost” 
marriage into the number I had just cleared.  So, I have now started at the end 
of the list and hopefully this will solve my problem.

Ila

From: Ila East
Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 9:27 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage list

After discussing filing systems, I decided this morning to check my marriage 
list and I found hundreds of marriages with Unknown and Unknown.  When I got to 
investigating further I found that each marriage had either a source attached, 
a marriage note, or a date. I went through a number of these marriages and 
deleted all the data and then had Legacy renumber the MRINs. Several were 
reused, but most were not. I then went through the same ones and made sure I 
removed the marriage link. These marriages disappeared from the screen, but 
when I had Legacy renumber the MRINs these were not reused and showed up again.

I am assuming these marriages were created when I imported my GEDCOM file from 
FTM for the Mac after I got my Windows computer and started using Legacy again. 
It looks like each marriage was created as it should have been with all the 
data and then the marriage data was also placed in blank marriages thus 
creating these “ghost” marriages.

I have tried compacting the family file, and check and repair but nothing has 
helped. These “darling” marriages still show up. I feel like there must be 
something I am missing and need help finding it.

Ila East


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[LegacyUG] Marriage list

[Ila East]

After discussing filing systems, I decided this morning to check my marriage 
list and I found hundreds of marriages with Unknown and Unknown.  When I got to 
investigating further I found that each marriage had either a source attached, 
a marriage note, or a date. I went through a number of these marriages and 
deleted all the data and then had Legacy renumber the MRINs. Several were 
reused, but most were not. I then went through the same ones and made sure I 
removed the marriage link. These marriages disappeared from the screen, but 
when I had Legacy renumber the MRINs these were not reused and showed up again.

I am assuming these marriages were created when I imported my GEDCOM file from 
FTM for the Mac after I got my Windows computer and started using Legacy again. 
It looks like each marriage was created as it should have been with all the 
data and then the marriage data was also placed in blank marriages thus 
creating these “ghost” marriages.

I have tried compacting the family file, and check and repair but nothing has 
helped. These “darling” marriages still show up. I feel like there must be 
something I am missing and need help finding it.

Ila East



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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List bug

[Brian/Support]

Yes the Test group does exist.

This problem was reported earlier and a report has been submitted to the
programmers.

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On 31/03/2014 3:06 PM, Michel Lacoursiere wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The fist time you open the Marriage List the field (MRIN, Husband or Wife) in 
> which the cursor is, contains the path of the family file you are working 
> with and the highlighted marriage is not the one you have in the family view.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michel Lacoursière
> lacoume...@yahoo.com
>
> P.S. Does the testing group still exist?



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[LegacyUG] Marriage List bug

[Michel Lacoursiere]

Hi,

The fist time you open the Marriage List the field (MRIN, Husband or Wife) in 
which the cursor is, contains the path of the family file you are working with 
and the highlighted marriage is not the one you have in the family view.

Regards,

Michel Lacoursière
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RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage List

[Morris M. Sonnier]

Hi Brian,

Works great.

Thanks

Morris Sonnier

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From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:58 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List

Search > Find > Detailed Search
Search for Individuals with Tag 9 Equal to tagged.
With the search list displayed select the Family tab on the right.
If the person is married you will see a button to edit the marriage
You can edit the marriage notes from the marriage edit screen.

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On 15/02/2012 5:42 PM, M Sonnier wrote:
> I have 129 Records which have junk from a FTM import.  Through a detailed 
> search, I have been able to isolate these files and then designate them in 
> Name List using tag # 9.  I can edit general notes, medical notes, research 
> notes, but I do not see a way to edit the marriage notes.  When I complete 
> each, it takes me back to family view.  I then have to click on Name List and 
> then search all tagged on 9.   It would be nice to have a link on the name 
> list page.  Does anyone know of an easier way?
>
> Morris Sonnier


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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List

[Brian/Support]

Search > Find > Detailed Search
Search for Individuals with Tag 9 Equal to tagged.
With the search list displayed select the Family tab on the right.
If the person is married you will see a button to edit the marriage
You can edit the marriage notes from the marriage edit screen.

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On 15/02/2012 5:42 PM, M Sonnier wrote:
> I have 129 Records which have junk from a FTM import.  Through a detailed 
> search, I have been able to isolate these files and then designate them in 
> Name List using tag # 9.  I can edit general notes, medical notes, research 
> notes, but I do not see a way to edit the marriage notes.  When I complete 
> each, it takes me back to family view.  I then have to click on Name List and 
> then search all tagged on 9.   It would be nice to have a link on the name 
> list page.  Does anyone know of an easier way?
>
> Morris Sonnier


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[LegacyUG] Marriage List

[M Sonnier]

I have 129 Records which have junk from a FTM import.  Through a detailed 
search, I have been able to isolate these files and then designate them in Name 
List using tag # 9.  I can edit general notes, medical notes, research notes, 
but I do not see a way to edit the marriage notes.  When I complete each, it 
takes me back to family view.  I then have to click on Name List and then 
search all tagged on 9.   It would be nice to have a link on the name list 
page.  Does anyone know of an easier way?
 
Morris Sonnier

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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage list - search

[Ron Ferguson]

Scott,

Your para 2. is basically what I said. You can put forward an enhancement
request should you so wish, but I wouldn't hold my breath!

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

From: Scott Hall
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 4:31 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage list - search


Two responses:

1.  You can't edit marriage notes from the individual list.  FWIW, you can't
edit any notes from the individual list other than General, Research and
Medical.
2.  While the marriage notes are on the family view, if I need to edit 6
dozen of them with a specific attribute, I first have to search for them.
If I needed to edit 6 dozen individuals, I could search for them, get a list
of just those 6 dozen, and edit them in directly in the search list.  Nice
and easy.  For marriage notes, I have to search for them, get the list of
individuals, click on an individual to go the family view, click on the
marriage note, edit it, return to the search list, click on the next
individual, and so on and so forth.  Not as easy.  I could, in lieu of a
search list, use the "Find First" option, which will take me to the first
person with the marriage note, click on the note, change it, click next
individual, etc., which is easy enough except that I will end up at each
marriage twice.  The only way around this is to add a second condition on
the search to look only for one gender, but it still requires more steps
than editing individuals.  It also risks not finding marriage notes when one
spouse is an "unknown".

So, possible, but more steps and less convenient, IMHO.

Scott


On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Ron Ferguson 
wrote:

Scott,

On the face of it, it would seem more logical. But would it make any
difference? The Marriage Notes are displayed in Family View so either
partner will bring them up. The disadvantage of the current list is that it
contains twice the number of records than is strictly necessary, although
this can be limited by also selecting  only one partner by sex.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
--

From: "Scott Hall" 

Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:21 PM
To: 

Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage list - search


> Hey all ...
>
> I'm trying to do a search for data contained within Marriage Notes so
> that I can make some updates.  Seems easy enough.  I go to Search ->
> Look for Marriage -> Look in Marriage Notes -> Contains -> the text
> I'm seeking.
>
> But when I create the search list, it gives me a list of INDIVIDUALS,
> not marriages, which doesn't allow me to edit the marriage notes.
>
> Doesn't it make more sense that if I do a search on marriages, a
> MARRIAGE list should come up?
>
> Perhaps an enhancement request is needed, or am I missing something?
>
>
> Scott
>
>




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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage list - search

[Scott Hall]

Two responses:

1.  You can't edit marriage notes from the individual list.  FWIW, you can't
edit any notes from the individual list other than General, Research and
Medical.
2.  While the marriage notes are on the family view, if I need to edit 6
dozen of them with a specific attribute, I first have to search for them.
If I needed to edit 6 dozen individuals, I could search for them, get a list
of just those 6 dozen, and edit them in directly in the search list.  Nice
and easy.  For marriage notes, I have to search for them, get the list of
individuals, click on an individual to go the family view, click on the
marriage note, edit it, return to the search list, click on the next
individual, and so on and so forth.  Not as easy.  I could, in lieu of a
search list, use the "Find First" option, which will take me to the first
person with the marriage note, click on the note, change it, click next
individual, etc., which is easy enough except that I will end up at each
marriage twice.  The only way around this is to add a second condition on
the search to look only for one gender, but it still requires more steps
than editing individuals.  It also risks not finding marriage notes when one
spouse is an "unknown".

So, possible, but more steps and less convenient, IMHO.

Scott

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Ron Ferguson
wrote:

> Scott,
>
> On the face of it, it would seem more logical. But would it make any
> difference? The Marriage Notes are displayed in Family View so either
> partner will bring them up. The disadvantage of the current list is that it
> contains twice the number of records than is strictly necessary, although
> this can be limited by also selecting  only one partner by sex.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
> --
> From: "Scott Hall" 
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:21 PM
> To: 
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage list - search
>
>  > Hey all ...
> >
> > I'm trying to do a search for data contained within Marriage Notes so
> > that I can make some updates.  Seems easy enough.  I go to Search ->
> > Look for Marriage -> Look in Marriage Notes -> Contains -> the text
> > I'm seeking.
> >
> > But when I create the search list, it gives me a list of INDIVIDUALS,
> > not marriages, which doesn't allow me to edit the marriage notes.
> >
> > Doesn't it make more sense that if I do a search on marriages, a
> > MARRIAGE list should come up?
> >
> > Perhaps an enhancement request is needed, or am I missing something?
> >
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage list - search

[Ron Ferguson]

Scott,

On the face of it, it would seem more logical. But would it make any
difference? The Marriage Notes are displayed in Family View so either
partner will bring them up. The disadvantage of the current list is that it
contains twice the number of records than is strictly necessary, although
this can be limited by also selecting  only one partner by sex.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
--
From: "Scott Hall" 
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:21 PM
To: 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage list - search

> Hey all ...
>
> I'm trying to do a search for data contained within Marriage Notes so
> that I can make some updates.  Seems easy enough.  I go to Search ->
> Look for Marriage -> Look in Marriage Notes -> Contains -> the text
> I'm seeking.
>
> But when I create the search list, it gives me a list of INDIVIDUALS,
> not marriages, which doesn't allow me to edit the marriage notes.
>
> Doesn't it make more sense that if I do a search on marriages, a
> MARRIAGE list should come up?
>
> Perhaps an enhancement request is needed, or am I missing something?
>
>
> Scott
>
>





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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage list - search

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Look at the bottoms of the Name List and Marriage List. The Name list has a 
Search button, but not on Marriage List. This 'shows' you can't create a less 
than ALL marriage list. (You can't get a list of only a dozen marriages to 
edit, but get the indivduals in those marriages.) You just have to create the 
search list in marriages, then move over to the created individual list to edit 
the info. It is annoying but it works.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Thu, 10/21/10, Scott Hall  wrote:

> From: Scott Hall 
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage list - search
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Date: Thursday, October 21, 2010, 7:21 AM
> Hey all ...
>
> I'm trying to do a search for data contained within
> Marriage Notes so
> that I can make some updates.  Seems easy
> enough.  I go to Search ->
> Look for Marriage -> Look in Marriage Notes ->
> Contains -> the text
> I'm seeking.
>
> But when I create the search list, it gives me a list of
> INDIVIDUALS,
> not marriages, which doesn't allow me to edit the marriage
> notes.
>
> Doesn't it make more sense that if I do a search on
> marriages, a
> MARRIAGE list should come up?
>
> Perhaps an enhancement request is needed, or am I missing
> something?
>
>
> Scott
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Marriage list - search

[Scott Hall]

Hey all ...

I'm trying to do a search for data contained within Marriage Notes so
that I can make some updates.  Seems easy enough.  I go to Search ->
Look for Marriage -> Look in Marriage Notes -> Contains -> the text
I'm seeking.

But when I create the search list, it gives me a list of INDIVIDUALS,
not marriages, which doesn't allow me to edit the marriage notes.

Doesn't it make more sense that if I do a search on marriages, a
MARRIAGE list should come up?

Perhaps an enhancement request is needed, or am I missing something?


Scott



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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

>From: Helen Ayers
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Sent: 22 July 2010 22:56
>Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage List
>
>Now I forsee when corresponding with family members a future need  for cross
>referencing from the current family file marriage list to the new family
>file marriage list( with no missing MRINs ) and the reverse.  I could do it
>by hand but that is a tedious process.  Does anyone have an idea of how I
>can make theses cross referenced lists? Each renumbering is recorded in
>the file called RINLog.txt in the Legacy program folder but that does not
>have the husband and wife names attached.

[Replying to Ron since OP's post was not plain/text.]

Helen:

You could store the old MRIN in the marriage User ID field. This can be
easily done using SQL. However, because you have already done the
renumbering in your new file (and presumably made other updates), this
may no longer be an option.

Or you can create your own marriage event type ... maybe called "Old
MRIN" ... and store the old MRIN there.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage List

[Ron Ferguson]

Helen,

If I have the right end of the stick, surely you can just use File>Export
To>Legacy File to export your 'complete' file to a new one? They should then
be both the same.

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- Original Message -
From: Helen Ayers
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: 22 July 2010 22:56
Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage List


I've been delaying the massive reorganisation of my "bits of paper" files
and boxes and can delay no longer.   I am in a disorganised
alphabetical/place/certificates/letters etc. system and I am now doing  the
recommended filing under MRIN's etc. as shown in  Legacy's   "Organizing
Your Paper Files".

I have created two Legacy family files with identical data. One has many
missing MRINs and in the other I filled in all missing MRINs from the
highest MRINs so there are no more holes left in the family file marriages.

Now I forsee when corresponding with family members a future need  for cross
referencing from the current family file marriage list to the new family
file marriage list( with no missing MRINs ) and the reverse.  I could do it
by hand but that is a tedious process.  Does anyone have an idea of how I
can make theses cross referenced lists? Each renumbering is recorded in
the file called RINLog.txt in the Legacy program folder but that does not
have the husband and wife names attached.

Many thanks for any help

Helen

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[LegacyUG] Marriage List

[Helen Ayers]

I've been delaying the massive reorganisation of my "bits of paper" files and 
boxes and can delay no longer.   I am in a disorganised 
alphabetical/place/certificates/letters etc. system and I am now doing  the 
recommended filing under MRIN's etc. as shown in  Legacy's   "Organizing Your 
Paper Files".

I have created two Legacy family files with identical data. One has many 
missing MRINs and in the other I filled in all missing MRINs from the highest 
MRINs so there are no more holes left in the family file marriages.

Now I forsee when corresponding with family members a future need  for cross 
referencing from the current family file marriage list to the new family file 
marriage list( with no missing MRINs ) and the reverse.  I could do it by hand 
but that is a tedious process.  Does anyone have an idea of how I can make 
theses cross referenced lists? Each renumbering is recorded in the file 
called RINLog.txt in the Legacy program folder but that does not have the 
husband and wife names attached.

Many thanks for any help

Helen






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RE: [LegacyUG] Marriage List

[Roger Jarrett]

LTOOLS (http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm) has an option to sort 
marriages by date

Regards
Roger

From: George MacGillivray [mailto:georg...@nbnet.nb.ca]
Sent: Sunday, 10 January 2010 1:11 p.m.
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Marriage List

Folks:

When I run the potential problems I get a list that shows among other things 
families in which the children are not in birth order. I have no problem with 
this.

Is there some way I can find out which marriages are not in the order in which 
they took place? For example John Smith married Mary Jones on January 1 1950. 
He then married Susan MacDonald on June 1 1960. However I entered the Susan 
MacDonald marriage first and didn't notice when I entered the Mary Jones 
marriage that it occurred first. I know how to sort the marriage when I find 
them. I want to know if there is a simple way to find them.

Thanks
George


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[LegacyUG] Marriage List

[George MacGillivray]

Folks:

When I run the potential problems I get a list that shows among other things 
families in which the children are not in birth order. I have no problem with 
this.

Is there some way I can find out which marriages are not in the order in which 
they took place? For example John Smith married Mary Jones on January 1 1950. 
He then married Susan MacDonald on June 1 1960. However I entered the Susan 
MacDonald marriage first and didn't notice when I entered the Mary Jones 
marriage that it occurred first. I know how to sort the marriage when I find 
them. I want to know if there is a simple way to find them.

Thanks
George


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