Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with v9 Hints

[Shirley Crampton]

Go to the Options button, click on customize, go to 8.13 and when you get
there, there is a button for Options or something like that.  Click on it,
scroll down to the bottom and there is a button to click to delete the
hints icon when you have reviewed all of them.

On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 8:32 PM, Ian Beach  wrote:

> Hi
>
> As this discussion seems to have off the original topic that I posted, I
> reiterate points 2 and 3 (particularly point 3)
>
> 2. It IS finding all sorts of spurious hints from the USA even though all
> my
> entries are UK based.
>
> 3. If I "Reject" Hints (e.g. the US ones) the little orange hint icon
> quantity
> doesn't change and next time I run the hints all the Rejects have
> reappeared.
>
> Ian Beach
> College Grove, Western Australia
>
> On 21/04/17 10:25 PM, Philip Solida wrote:
> > This is indeed good news Brian... I see it as a full answer to any
> remaining
> > need for ancestry other than the images being shared to family search by
> tree
> > owners as they have to ancestry in the past... word of mouth folks... we
> need
> > to get out there and talk this up at local meetings of genealogical
> societies
> > ect. The program far exceeds Ancestry in what it can do, so why hold on
> to it
> > after the recent problems... They will have to come out with something
> truely
> > compete and new features for me to consider upgrading Family tree 2014...
> >
> > On Apr 21, 2017 10:12 AM, "Brian Kelly"  > > wrote:
> >
> > I am a beta tester and there are many sources I found via the hints
> which
> > include a link to an image which can be viewed (and downloaded if you
> > choose). It is not a "one click" solution where the image is
> automatically
> > added to your file along with the source but except for some
> FamilySearch
> > images which are not downloadable due to restrictions placed on the
> images
> > by the provider I was able to download and attach source images
> obtained
> > via the Hints at Find My Past, MyHeritage and FamilySearch.
> >
> > Images I found via this method included: Census pages from England
> and
> > Wales, Canada and the United States, Images for birth Death and
> marriage
> > registrations from various jurisdictions, Parish record images with
> > baptism, marriage and death details.
> >
> > Not all hints included images because some are based only on indexes
> which
> > have no image.
> >
> > Brian Kelly
> >
> > On 21-Apr-17 9:59 AM, Philip Solida wrote:
> >
> > The current hinting I see as a start... and a good start at a
> competitive
> > hinting system to ancestry. Hinting has been to this point one
> of ancestry
> > '72 biggest advantages, and I like the ability to use multiple
> hinting
> > sources... that said another advantage to ancestry has been
> attached
> > images
> > of the actual cited documents so you can download your own copy.
> That
> > ability is also needed. As it has been use family search to
> search or
> > expand tree without charge, you still seam to need Ancestry to
> document
> > beyond a citation... actual image of a primary source
> document... so true
> > competition will need to include those features at some point in
> the
> > national databases. That is to say while the program as I see it
> is
> > far and
> > away the best, the free databases have some catching up to do.
> The
> > ability
> > to see and save a source document as part of a hint is primary
> as opposed
> > to what may be a guess as to date from someone else's
> undocumented
> > guess on
> > their tree... goes to what is the quality and source of the
> information in
> > a hint.
> >
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with v9 Hints

[Ian Beach]

Hi

As this discussion seems to have off the original topic that I posted, I 
reiterate points 2 and 3 (particularly point 3)

2. It IS finding all sorts of spurious hints from the USA even though all my
entries are UK based.

3. If I "Reject" Hints (e.g. the US ones) the little orange hint icon quantity
doesn't change and next time I run the hints all the Rejects have reappeared.

Ian Beach
College Grove, Western Australia

On 21/04/17 10:25 PM, Philip Solida wrote:
> This is indeed good news Brian... I see it as a full answer to any remaining 
> need for ancestry other than the images being shared to family search by tree 
> owners as they have to ancestry in the past... word of mouth folks... we need 
> to get out there and talk this up at local meetings of genealogical societies 
> ect. The program far exceeds Ancestry in what it can do, so why hold on to it 
> after the recent problems... They will have to come out with something truely 
> compete and new features for me to consider upgrading Family tree 2014...
>
> On Apr 21, 2017 10:12 AM, "Brian Kelly"  > wrote:
>
> I am a beta tester and there are many sources I found via the hints which
> include a link to an image which can be viewed (and downloaded if you
> choose). It is not a "one click" solution where the image is automatically
> added to your file along with the source but except for some FamilySearch
> images which are not downloadable due to restrictions placed on the images
> by the provider I was able to download and attach source images obtained
> via the Hints at Find My Past, MyHeritage and FamilySearch.
>
> Images I found via this method included: Census pages from England and
> Wales, Canada and the United States, Images for birth Death and marriage
> registrations from various jurisdictions, Parish record images with
> baptism, marriage and death details.
>
> Not all hints included images because some are based only on indexes which
> have no image.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
> On 21-Apr-17 9:59 AM, Philip Solida wrote:
>
> The current hinting I see as a start... and a good start at a 
> competitive
> hinting system to ancestry. Hinting has been to this point one of 
> ancestry
> '72 biggest advantages, and I like the ability to use multiple hinting
> sources... that said another advantage to ancestry has been attached
> images
> of the actual cited documents so you can download your own copy. That
> ability is also needed. As it has been use family search to search or
> expand tree without charge, you still seam to need Ancestry to 
> document
> beyond a citation... actual image of a primary source document... so 
> true
> competition will need to include those features at some point in the
> national databases. That is to say while the program as I see it is
> far and
> away the best, the free databases have some catching up to do.  The
> ability
> to see and save a source document as part of a hint is primary as 
> opposed
> to what may be a guess as to date from someone else's undocumented
> guess on
> their tree... goes to what is the quality and source of the 
> information in
> a hint.
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with v9 Hints

[Philip Solida]

This is indeed good news Brian... I see it as a full answer to any
remaining need for ancestry other than the images being shared to family
search by tree owners as they have to ancestry in the past... word of mouth
folks... we need to get out there and talk this up at local meetings of
genealogical societies ect. The program far exceeds Ancestry in what it can
do, so why hold on to it after the recent problems... They will have to
come out with something truely compete and new features for me to consider
upgrading Family tree 2014...

On Apr 21, 2017 10:12 AM, "Brian Kelly"  wrote:

> I am a beta tester and there are many sources I found via the hints which
> include a link to an image which can be viewed (and downloaded if you
> choose). It is not a "one click" solution where the image is automatically
> added to your file along with the source but except for some FamilySearch
> images which are not downloadable due to restrictions placed on the images
> by the provider I was able to download and attach source images obtained
> via the Hints at Find My Past, MyHeritage and FamilySearch.
>
> Images I found via this method included: Census pages from England and
> Wales, Canada and the United States, Images for birth Death and marriage
> registrations from various jurisdictions, Parish record images with
> baptism, marriage and death details.
>
> Not all hints included images because some are based only on indexes which
> have no image.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
> On 21-Apr-17 9:59 AM, Philip Solida wrote:
>
>> The current hinting I see as a start... and a good start at a competitive
>> hinting system to ancestry. Hinting has been to this point one of ancestry
>> '72 biggest advantages, and I like the ability to use multiple hinting
>> sources... that said another advantage to ancestry has been attached
>> images
>> of the actual cited documents so you can download your own copy. That
>> ability is also needed. As it has been use family search to search or
>> expand tree without charge, you still seam to need Ancestry to document
>> beyond a citation... actual image of a primary source document... so true
>> competition will need to include those features at some point in the
>> national databases. That is to say while the program as I see it is far
>> and
>> away the best, the free databases have some catching up to do.  The
>> ability
>> to see and save a source document as part of a hint is primary as opposed
>> to what may be a guess as to date from someone else's undocumented guess
>> on
>> their tree... goes to what is the quality and source of the information in
>> a hint.
>>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with v9 Hints

[Brian Kelly]

I am a beta tester and there are many sources I found via the hints 
which include a link to an image which can be viewed (and downloaded if 
you choose). It is not a "one click" solution where the image is 
automatically added to your file along with the source but except for 
some FamilySearch images which are not downloadable due to restrictions 
placed on the images by the provider I was able to download and attach 
source images obtained via the Hints at Find My Past, MyHeritage and 
FamilySearch.


Images I found via this method included: Census pages from England and 
Wales, Canada and the United States, Images for birth Death and marriage 
registrations from various jurisdictions, Parish record images with 
baptism, marriage and death details.


Not all hints included images because some are based only on indexes 
which have no image.


Brian Kelly

On 21-Apr-17 9:59 AM, Philip Solida wrote:

The current hinting I see as a start... and a good start at a competitive
hinting system to ancestry. Hinting has been to this point one of ancestry
'72 biggest advantages, and I like the ability to use multiple hinting
sources... that said another advantage to ancestry has been attached images
of the actual cited documents so you can download your own copy. That
ability is also needed. As it has been use family search to search or
expand tree without charge, you still seam to need Ancestry to document
beyond a citation... actual image of a primary source document... so true
competition will need to include those features at some point in the
national databases. That is to say while the program as I see it is far and
away the best, the free databases have some catching up to do.  The ability
to see and save a source document as part of a hint is primary as opposed
to what may be a guess as to date from someone else's undocumented guess on
their tree... goes to what is the quality and source of the information in
a hint.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with v9 Hints

[Philip Solida]

The current hinting I see as a start... and a good start at a competitive
hinting system to ancestry. Hinting has been to this point one of ancestry
'72 biggest advantages, and I like the ability to use multiple hinting
sources... that said another advantage to ancestry has been attached images
of the actual cited documents so you can download your own copy. That
ability is also needed. As it has been use family search to search or
expand tree without charge, you still seam to need Ancestry to document
beyond a citation... actual image of a primary source document... so true
competition will need to include those features at some point in the
national databases. That is to say while the program as I see it is far and
away the best, the free databases have some catching up to do.  The ability
to see and save a source document as part of a hint is primary as opposed
to what may be a guess as to date from someone else's undocumented guess on
their tree... goes to what is the quality and source of the information in
a hint.

On Apr 21, 2017 9:28 AM, "Pete" <pete.bea...@gmail.com> wrote:

> While this thread is about Hints, I have a slightly different, but
> relevant observation.
>
>
>
> My family has been in the US since 1880.  My research extends into
> Ireland, where I have conducted extensive onsite research  However, when I
> attempt use a source (SourceWriter), there are no templates for major sites
> in Ireland.  Discussions with Legacy resulted in the statement “SourceWriter
> templates are mostly geared for US sources”.
>
>
>
> I have requested that Legacy add the source templates for Ireland.  They
> have taken the request and placed it into the program bucket with a
> suggested “High” priority. Without Legacy supporting the major archives, we
> must “Hack” out way into recording data properly.
>
>
>
> My experience with this thread,  suggests that Legacy may have a major
> issue in supporting “foreign”/(non US) sites and data.
>
>
>
> Pete
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Philip Solida
> *Sent:* Friday, April 21, 2017 2:47 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with v9 Hints
>
>
>
> Perhaps as an American company, only us sites programed in for searches...
> maybe worth a problem report to support? While I am American, as nearly all
> Americans are immigrants at some point I also would like to see "foreign"
> searches as eventually I need German, Swiss, and French records as well as
> Irish and others. Hope that is not the case and just taking awhile to get
> to searching the "foreign" sites.
>
>
>
> On Apr 21, 2017 2:35 AM, "Ian Beach" <ianbe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I was looking forward to trying out the new HINTS part of Legacy 9 but so
> far
> I've been quite disappointed.
>
> 1. It's not finding anything that I haven't already entered (except see
> point 2
> below). I can't be that good that I've found everything there is to find.
> :) I
> use mainly FindMyPast.
>
> 2. It IS finding all sorts of spurious hints from the USA even though all
> my
> entries are UK based.
>
> 3. If I "Reject" Hints (e.g. the US ones) the little orange hint icon
> quantity
> doesn't change and next time I run the hints all the Rejects have
> reappeared.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Ian
>
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>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with v9 Hints

[Pete]

While this thread is about Hints, I have a slightly different, but relevant 
observation.  

 

My family has been in the US since 1880.  My research extends into Ireland, 
where I have conducted extensive onsite research  However, when I attempt use a 
source (SourceWriter), there are no templates for major sites in Ireland.  
Discussions with Legacy resulted in the statement “SourceWriter templates are 
mostly geared for US sources”. 

 

I have requested that Legacy add the source templates for Ireland.  They have 
taken the request and placed it into the program bucket with a suggested “High” 
priority. Without Legacy supporting the major archives, we must “Hack” out way 
into recording data properly.

 

My experience with this thread,  suggests that Legacy may have a major issue in 
supporting “foreign”/(non US) sites and data.  

 

Pete

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Philip Solida
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 2:47 AM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with v9 Hints

 

Perhaps as an American company, only us sites programed in for searches... 
maybe worth a problem report to support? While I am American, as nearly all 
Americans are immigrants at some point I also would like to see "foreign" 
searches as eventually I need German, Swiss, and French records as well as 
Irish and others. Hope that is not the case and just taking awhile to get to 
searching the "foreign" sites.

 

On Apr 21, 2017 2:35 AM, "Ian Beach" <ianbe...@hotmail.com 
<mailto:ianbe...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

I was looking forward to trying out the new HINTS part of Legacy 9 but so far
I've been quite disappointed.

1. It's not finding anything that I haven't already entered (except see point 2
below). I can't be that good that I've found everything there is to find. :) I
use mainly FindMyPast.

2. It IS finding all sorts of spurious hints from the USA even though all my
entries are UK based.

3. If I "Reject" Hints (e.g. the US ones) the little orange hint icon quantity
doesn't change and next time I run the hints all the Rejects have reappeared.

Any ideas?

Ian

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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with v9 Hints

[Cathy Pinner]

Philip,

FindMyPast is a UK company from which I get UK and Australian hints 
since most of my research is in England and Australia. They've only 
comparatively recently entered the US market as well.


MyHeritage is actually an Israeli company with a reputation for having 
good European data. I don't know. I do know they don't have unique 
Australian and English data but feed you FamilySearch data.


FamilySearch is worldwide though hints from FamilySearch are only coming 
from things that have been hinted by them to FamilySearch trees and then 
only if you have the FS ID entered in Legacy.


Genealogy Bank is the only hinting site that is pure USA (maybe also 
Canada but I don't think so).


Cathy

Philip Solida wrote:


Perhaps as an American company, only us sites programed in for
searches... maybe worth a problem report to support? While I am
American, as nearly all Americans are immigrants at some point I also
would like to see "foreign" searches as eventually I need German,
Swiss, and French records as well as Irish and others. Hope that is
not the case and just taking awhile to get to searching the "foreign"
sites.

On Apr 21, 2017 2:35 AM, "Ian Beach" > wrote:

I was looking forward to trying out the new HINTS part of Legacy 9
but so far
I've been quite disappointed.

1. It's not finding anything that I haven't already entered
(except see point 2
below). I can't be that good that I've found everything there is
to find. :) I
use mainly FindMyPast.

2. It IS finding all sorts of spurious hints from the USA even
though all my
entries are UK based.

3. If I "Reject" Hints (e.g. the US ones) the little orange hint
icon quantity
doesn't change and next time I run the hints all the Rejects have
reappeared.

Any ideas?

Ian

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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with v9 Hints

[Philip Solida]

Perhaps as an American company, only us sites programed in for searches...
maybe worth a problem report to support? While I am American, as nearly all
Americans are immigrants at some point I also would like to see "foreign"
searches as eventually I need German, Swiss, and French records as well as
Irish and others. Hope that is not the case and just taking awhile to get
to searching the "foreign" sites.

On Apr 21, 2017 2:35 AM, "Ian Beach"  wrote:

I was looking forward to trying out the new HINTS part of Legacy 9 but so
far
I've been quite disappointed.

1. It's not finding anything that I haven't already entered (except see
point 2
below). I can't be that good that I've found everything there is to find.
:) I
use mainly FindMyPast.

2. It IS finding all sorts of spurious hints from the USA even though all my
entries are UK based.

3. If I "Reject" Hints (e.g. the US ones) the little orange hint icon
quantity
doesn't change and next time I run the hints all the Rejects have
reappeared.

Any ideas?

Ian

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[LegacyUG] Problem with v9 Hints

[Ian Beach]

I was looking forward to trying out the new HINTS part of Legacy 9 but so far 
I've been quite disappointed.

1. It's not finding anything that I haven't already entered (except see point 2 
below). I can't be that good that I've found everything there is to find. :) I 
use mainly FindMyPast.

2. It IS finding all sorts of spurious hints from the USA even though all my 
entries are UK based.

3. If I "Reject" Hints (e.g. the US ones) the little orange hint icon quantity 
doesn't change and next time I run the hints all the Rejects have reappeared.

Any ideas?

Ian

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