[LegacyUG] Mapping

[Michele Lewis]

Mapping - Mapping will not be coming back in its current form. The
developers are working on something new to replace it. I do not have any
timetable for this.  

 

Michele Simmons Lewis, CGR

Legacy Educator

Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage

mich...@legacyfamilytree.com   

www.legacyfamilytree.com    

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Function

[CE WOOD]

>From the lack of attention to the many who made them the company they once 
>were, it is a sad day.

CE


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yp0uzqxoy...@opayq.com 
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Function


Chris Hill, the retired IT Guru can probably answer your question about 
Legacy’s Unicode capabilities, but as he said in a previous post, the 
underlying database is simply and Access table(s) which based on version has 
varying degrees of Unicode abilities.



When editing an Individual’s Information, the is a small vertical bar to the 
left of the data fields that allows you to add “special characters”; perhaps 
your u-double-acute.  You can select various character sets, but I don’t need 
it and would find it cumbersome if I did.



I for one could not abide MyHeritage.  I have a fairly capable computer with 
two SSD drives and a discrete graphics card running Windows 10 64 bit, but 
MyHeritage runs like molasses on it, and I finally removed it.  Plus, I’m not 
paying for another program, especially one that has all the symptoms of an 
early beta.



Legacy is a nice program, though it could use a cleaner interface, and I think 
in general, Millennia attempts to take care of its customers, but this very 
lengthy period without mapping is not endearing.  It is critical when selecting 
or finding accurate locations.



Should they fix the latest bugs introduced in .269 and bring a capable mapping 
function back, I’d be willing to upgrade to a version 10 if required.  Please 
don’t start any rumors about a new version.  I have no knowledge of one, nor 
any insights into what Millennia is working on.



Mark Trevithick

3rd generation Coloradan who’s left the once magnificent mountains to the 
Californicators…





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I am wondering whether this problem with the new Bing interface is related to 
the problem of Legacy not being able to accept data which uses Unicode 
characters, which most programs in this 21st century can, even Windows Notepad. 
I have raised the Unicode issue several times with Legacy in the past and have 
been told that it is because of the underlying database they use, and would 
require a major re-write of Legacy to fix, so, is unlikely to happen.

Legacy is an excellent and very capable genealogical program, but, unlike other 
popular genie programs, has this major weakness of not being able to support a 
wide range of characters in the data you enter. For example, I have ancestors 
in Hungary, but cannot enter names and places with their correct spelling 
because the English-speaking version of Legacy will not accept Eastern European 
characters, such as u-double-acute. It will accept only characters from the 
Western European character set. (Legacy versions in other languages would 
accept characters in their language of course, but only from the one respective 
256-character set ("code page"). But this is only one aspect of not being able 
to operate in a Unicode environment.

So, are we going to get a band-aid mapping facility, or is Millennia/MyHeritage 
going to bite the bullet and fix Legacy properly for the 21st century, or are 
they going to eventually fob us off on to MyHeritage's Family Tree Builder? At 
least that program can exist in a Unicode environment. Millennia's "Customer 
Service" certainly leaves its loyal users in the dark. Very sad. Come on 
Millennia, take your loyal users into your confidence - you might even end up 
losing less that way, if that's what you're scared of.

If you want to be totally depressed, check out this admittedly 2017 in-depth 
review of Legacy's situation:
https://www.tamurajones.net/MyHeritageBuysMilennnia.xhtml<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tamurajones.net%2FMyHeritageBuysMilennnia.xhtml&data=02%7C01%7C%7C3bc697efb8974673322d08d675178886%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636825141262814591&sdata=gmKowmXPKQpqBz9UVUg1Ypi%2B6x87NI0LCQghzn%2BZgyM%3D&reserved=0>
Let's hope she's wrong.

Peter Matthews
(Grumpy Old Man on soapbox)

At 12:27 06-01-19 -0500, Ronald Bernier wrote:


POSTED BY MICHELLE SIMMONS LEWIS FOUR HOURS AGO ON THE FACEBOOK LEGACY GROUP

"Mapping will not be coming back in its current form. The developers are 
working on something new. Legacy’s platform is simply incompatible with the 
new Bing API.

I am closing the comments."
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Function

[yp0uzqxoy9b9]

Chris Hill, the retired IT Guru can probably answer your question about 
Legacy’s Unicode capabilities, but as he said in a previous post, the 
underlying database is simply and Access table(s) which based on version has 
varying degrees of Unicode abilities.

 

When editing an Individual’s Information, the is a small vertical bar to the 
left of the data fields that allows you to add “special characters”; perhaps 
your u-double-acute.  You can select various character sets, but I don’t need 
it and would find it cumbersome if I did.

 

I for one could not abide MyHeritage.  I have a fairly capable computer with 
two SSD drives and a discrete graphics card running Windows 10 64 bit, but 
MyHeritage runs like molasses on it, and I finally removed it.  Plus, I’m not 
paying for another program, especially one that has all the symptoms of an 
early beta.

 

Legacy is a nice program, though it could use a cleaner interface, and I think 
in general, Millennia attempts to take care of its customers, but this very 
lengthy period without mapping is not endearing.  It is critical when selecting 
or finding accurate locations.

 

Should they fix the latest bugs introduced in .269 and bring a capable mapping 
function back, I’d be willing to upgrade to a version 10 if required.  Please 
don’t start any rumors about a new version.  I have no knowledge of one, nor 
any insights into what Millennia is working on.

 

Mark Trevithick

3rd generation Coloradan who’s left the once magnificent mountains to the 
Californicators…

 

 

 



I am wondering whether this problem with the new Bing interface is related to 
the problem of Legacy not being able to accept data which uses Unicode 
characters, which most programs in this 21st century can, even Windows Notepad. 
I have raised the Unicode issue several times with Legacy in the past and have 
been told that it is because of the underlying database they use, and would 
require a major re-write of Legacy to fix, so, is unlikely to happen.

Legacy is an excellent and very capable genealogical program, but, unlike other 
popular genie programs, has this major weakness of not being able to support a 
wide range of characters in the data you enter. For example, I have ancestors 
in Hungary, but cannot enter names and places with their correct spelling 
because the English-speaking version of Legacy will not accept Eastern European 
characters, such as u-double-acute. It will accept only characters from the 
Western European character set. (Legacy versions in other languages would 
accept characters in their language of course, but only from the one respective 
256-character set ("code page"). But this is only one aspect of not being able 
to operate in a Unicode environment.

So, are we going to get a band-aid mapping facility, or is Millennia/MyHeritage 
going to bite the bullet and fix Legacy properly for the 21st century, or are 
they going to eventually fob us off on to MyHeritage's Family Tree Builder? At 
least that program can exist in a Unicode environment. Millennia's "Customer 
Service" certainly leaves its loyal users in the dark. Very sad. Come on 
Millennia, take your loyal users into your confidence - you might even end up 
losing less that way, if that's what you're scared of.

If you want to be totally depressed, check out this admittedly 2017 in-depth 
review of Legacy's situation:
https://www.tamurajones.net/MyHeritageBuysMilennnia.xhtml
Let's hope she's wrong.

Peter Matthews 
(Grumpy Old Man on soapbox)

At 12:27 06-01-19 -0500, Ronald Bernier wrote:



POSTED BY MICHELLE SIMMONS LEWIS FOUR HOURS AGO ON THE FACEBOOK LEGACY GROUP

"Mapping will not be coming back in its current form. The developers are 
working on something new. Legacy’s platform is simply incompatible with the 
new Bing API. 

I am closing the comments."

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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Function

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No-one at Legacy has said that a decision has been made to not update the
mapping feature.

Legacy has been saying all along that they are working on a solution.  It
is taking time.  No-one knows how long it is going to take before there is
a working solution available.

Wendy


From: ltsjdad 
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> Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2019 10:05:54 -0500
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>
> It would have been very helpful if a notice had been posted by Legacy to
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Function

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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Function

[Ian Thomas]

Peter
Without going into details,  the Unicode problem could have been ‘fixed’ (those 
characters handled within Visual BASIC 6, the Microsoft computer language that 
Legacy Family Tree has been using long past its death-date); or by converting 
Legacy to be written with another Microsoft language (or more correctly, the 
framework supporting numerous computer languages on many different operating 
systems) – Microsoft .NET (using either C# or Visual BASIC .NET computer 
languages).

I think the merger/acquisition with MyHeritage would (have) complicate(d) 
things a little. See below.

Re the “Mapping Function”: It may be that the change in the last couple of 
years by Microsoft, that software incorporating the Bing Mapping API and which 
has a large number of users (which Legacy has) must now acquire licensing 
(costing significant $) became an issue intermingled with the MyHeritage 
takeover. I am guessing of course.

MyHeritage, if it is to incorporate a revamped Legacy Family Tree for desktops, 
has to rationalize its current desktop application that communicates and 
synchronizes with its customers’ online trees (I have it on my system – seldom 
used); and also to consider that the world is not all Windows (Microsoft) but 
includes iOS (Apple desktops) and even the mobile devices (tablets – Apple and 
Android) and the always-connected Google desktops running Android. Not to 
mention mobile phones (but why would anyone want to have a full-function and 
very comprehensive genealogy program on such a small screen? I think that is 
crazy).

My plan – if I were a Millennia programmer or software architect - would have 
been to transition to Microsoft .NET about 4 or 5 years ago. The NET Framework, 
which in its recent (last 3 years or so) manifestations is quite transportable 
across Windows, Unix, Linux, and the Apple and Android Unix-like operating 
systems, is powerful and versatile and of course understands Unicode and is 
available in many ‘spoken’ languages (not just English). This has been an 
obvious migration path for almost a decade.

If Millennia was/is still using VB6 for its Legacy FT, it could have considered 
Google Maps and it could have used the third-party tools (eg, a Japanese 
company) for making VB6 speak Unicode (for English and many other ‘spoken’ 
languages). The latter has been around and well-tested for 6+ years that I know 
of.  I think Google Maps would require non-free licensing.

In conclusion, I should say that this is all pie in the sky because 
circumstances have rolled over the top of one’s wish for a Unicode-compatible 
Legacy FT with close integration with Microsoft, Google, Here Maps, or Apple’s 
online mapping data and all the advantages of location  to genealogy.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Peter Matthews
Sent: Monday, 7 January 2019 5:27 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Function


I am wondering whether this problem with the new Bing interface is related to 
the problem of Legacy not being able to accept data which uses Unicode 
characters, which most programs in this 21st century can, even Windows Notepad. 
I have raised the Unicode issue several times with Legacy in the past and have 
been told that it is because of the underlying database they use, and would 
require a major re-write of Legacy to fix, so, is unlikely to happen.

Legacy is an excellent and very capable genealogical program, but, unlike other 
popular genie programs, has this major weakness of not being able to support a 
wide range of characters in the data you enter. For example, I have ancestors 
in Hungary, but cannot enter names and places with their correct spelling 
because the English-speaking version of Legacy will not accept Eastern European 
characters, such as u-double-acute. It will accept only characters from the 
Western European character set. (Legacy versions in other languages would 
accept characters in their language of course, but only from the one respective 
256-character set ("code page"). But this is only one aspect of not being able 
to operate in a Unicode environment.

So, are we going to get a band-aid mapping facility, or is Millennia/MyHeritage 
going to bite the bullet and fix Legacy properly for the 21st century, or are 
they going to eventually fob us off on to MyHeritage's Family Tree Builder? At 
least that program can exist in a Unicode environment. Millennia's "Customer 
Service" certainly leaves its loyal users in the dark. Very sad. Come on 
Millennia, take your loyal users into your confidence - you might even end up 
losing less that way, if that's what you're scared of.

If you want to be totally depressed, check out this admittedly 2017 in-depth 
review of Legacy's situation:
https://www.tamurajones.net/MyHeritageBuysMilennnia.xhtml
Let's hope she's wrong.

Peter Matthe

Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Function

[Peter Matthews]

I am wondering whether this problem with the new Bing interface is related to 
the problem of Legacy not being able to accept data which uses Unicode 
characters, which most programs in this 21st century can, even Windows Notepad. 
I have raised the Unicode issue several times with Legacy in the past and have 
been told that it is because of the underlying database they use, and would 
require a major re-write of Legacy to fix, so, is unlikely to happen.

Legacy is an excellent and very capable genealogical program, but, unlike other 
popular genie programs, has this major weakness of not being able to support a 
wide range of characters in the data you enter. For example, I have ancestors 
in Hungary, but cannot enter names and places with their correct spelling 
because the English-speaking version of Legacy will not accept Eastern European 
characters, such as u-double-acute. It will accept only characters from the 
Western European character set. (Legacy versions in other languages would 
accept characters in their language of course, but only from the one respective 
256-character set ("code page"). But this is only one aspect of not being able 
to operate in a Unicode environment.

So, are we going to get a band-aid mapping facility, or is Millennia/MyHeritage 
going to bite the bullet and fix Legacy properly for the 21st century, or are 
they going to eventually fob us off on to MyHeritage's Family Tree Builder? At 
least that program can exist in a Unicode environment. Millennia's "Customer 
Service" certainly leaves its loyal users in the dark. Very sad. Come on 
Millennia, take your loyal users into your confidence - you might even end up 
losing less that way, if that's what you're scared of.

If you want to be totally depressed, check out this admittedly 2017 in-depth 
review of Legacy's situation:
https://www.tamurajones.net/MyHeritageBuysMilennnia.xhtml
Let's hope she's wrong.

Peter Matthews
(Grumpy Old Man on soapbox)

At 12:27 06-01-19 -0500, Ronald Bernier wrote:
POSTED BY MICHELLE SIMMONS LEWIS FOUR HOURS AGO ON THE FACEBOOK LEGACY GROUP

"Mapping will not be coming back in its current form. The developers are 
working on something new. Legacy’s platform is simply incompatible with the 
new Bing API.

I am closing the comments."
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Function

[Gene Hutson]

Well, so much for ‘customer service’

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Ronald Bernier
Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 4:27 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Function

POSTED BY MICHELLE SIMMONS LEWIS FOUR HOURS AGO ON THE FACEBOOK LEGACY GROUP

“Mapping will not be coming back in its current form. The developers are 
working on something new. Legacy’s platform is simply incompatible with the new 
Bing API. 

I am closing the comments.”


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Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2019 17:03:03 +
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itsjdad and Ron Bernier,
Thanks for this update on Millennia' intentions about mapping. It would be 
interesting to know when Michelle Simmons Lewis posted this on Facebook. 
Mary Young

On Sunday, 6 January 2019, Ronald Bernier  wrote:
Missing from this post is the fact that Michele Simmons Lewis (Legacy Staff) 
explained why she shut down the Facebook post - "The thread was closed because 
I had answered the question".  "Mapping will not be coming back in it's current 
form.  The developers are working on something new."

On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 10:59 AM ltsjdad  wrote:
Hi, 

Found this on the Legacy Users group on Facebook:

We're approaching a year-and-a-half since the Mapping feature stopped working. 
It's way past time for Legacy to make a statement about whether they intend to 
make it function once again. Stating that they have a policy not to disclose 
what their programmers are working on is not satisfactory to the many users who 
have a legitimate interest in this feature. I'm not asking when it will be 
restored. I'm not asking what progress is being made to restore Mapping. I'm 
simply asking it Legacy has any intention of restoring the Mapping feature?

Admin has shutdown all comments on the post. 

Guess this answers the question as to whether Legacy intends to respond to 
their users.

Thanks, Steve Wilson.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Function

[Ronald Bernier]

POSTED BY MICHELLE SIMMONS LEWIS FOUR HOURS AGO ON THE FACEBOOK LEGACY
GROUP

“Mapping will not be coming back in its current form. The developers are
working on something new. Legacy’s platform is simply incompatible with the
new Bing API.

I am closing the comments.”


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> Cc:
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> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2019 17:03:03 +
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Function
> itsjdad and Ron Bernier,
> Thanks for this update on Millennia' intentions about mapping. It would be
> interesting to know when Michelle Simmons Lewis posted this on Facebook.
> Mary Young
>
> On Sunday, 6 January 2019, Ronald Bernier 
> wrote:
>
>> Missing from this post is the fact that Michele Simmons Lewis (Legacy
>> Staff) explained why she shut down the Facebook post - "The thread was
>> closed because I had answered the question".  "Mapping will not be coming
>> back in it's current form.  The developers are working on something new."
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 10:59 AM ltsjdad  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Found this on the Legacy Users group on Facebook:
>>>
>>> We're approaching a year-and-a-half since the Mapping feature stopped
>>> working. It's way past time for Legacy to make a statement about whether
>>> they intend to make it function once again. Stating that they have a policy
>>> not to disclose what their programmers are working on is not satisfactory
>>> to the many users who have a legitimate interest in this feature. I'm not
>>> asking when it will be restored. I'm not asking what progress is being made
>>> to restore Mapping. I'm simply asking it Legacy has any intention of
>>> restoring the Mapping feature?
>>>
>>> Admin has shutdown all comments on the post.
>>>
>>> Guess this answers the question as to whether Legacy intends to respond
>>> to their users.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Steve Wilson.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Function

[Mary Young]

Ron, thanks for the info.
Mary Young

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> Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2019 15:40:50 -0500
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> I did not see any statements from anyone about the function not coming
> back.
> Anyway, very poor communication by Legacy.
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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>  Original message 
> From: Ronald Bernier 
> Date: 1/6/19 11:29 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Legacy User Group 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Function
>
> Missing from this post is the fact that Michele Simmons Lewis (Legacy
> Staff) explained why she shut down the Facebook post - "The thread was
> closed because I had answered the question".  "Mapping will not be coming
> back in it's current form.  The developers are working on something new."
>
> On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 10:59 AM ltsjdad  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Found this on the Legacy Users group on Facebook:
>>
>> We're approaching a year-and-a-half since the Mapping feature stopped
>> working. It's way past time for Legacy to make a statement about whether
>> they intend to make it function once again. Stating that they have a policy
>> not to disclose what their programmers are working on is not satisfactory
>> to the many users who have a legitimate interest in this feature. I'm not
>> asking when it will be restored. I'm not asking what progress is being made
>> to restore Mapping. I'm simply asking it Legacy has any intention of
>> restoring the Mapping feature?
>>
>> Admin has shutdown all comments on the post.
>>
>> Guess this answers the question as to whether Legacy intends to respond
>> to their users.
>>
>> Thanks, Steve Wilson.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Function

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I did not see any statements from anyone about the function not coming 
back.Anyway, very poor communication by Legacy. 


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Ronald Bernier 
 Date: 1/6/19  11:29 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: Legacy 
User Group  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping 
Function 
Missing from this post is the fact that Michele Simmons Lewis (Legacy Staff) 
explained why she shut down the Facebook post - "The thread was closed because 
I had answered the question".  "Mapping will not be coming back in it's current 
form.  The developers are working on something new."
On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 10:59 AM ltsjdad  wrote:
Hi, 
Found this on the Legacy Users group on Facebook:
We're approaching a year-and-a-half since the Mapping feature stopped working. 
It's way past time for Legacy to make a statement about whether they intend to 
make it function once again. Stating that they have a policy not to disclose 
what their programmers are working on is not satisfactory to the many users who 
have a legitimate interest in this feature. I'm not asking when it will be 
restored. I'm not asking what progress is being made to restore Mapping. I'm 
simply asking it Legacy has any intention of restoring the Mapping feature?
Admin has shutdown all comments on the post. 
Guess this answers the question as to whether Legacy intends to respond to 
their users.
Thanks, Steve Wilson.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Function

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itsjdad and Ron Bernier,
Thanks for this update on Millennia' intentions about mapping. It would be
interesting to know when Michelle Simmons Lewis posted this on Facebook.
Mary Young

On Sunday, 6 January 2019, Ronald Bernier 
wrote:

> Missing from this post is the fact that Michele Simmons Lewis (Legacy
> Staff) explained why she shut down the Facebook post - "The thread was
> closed because I had answered the question".  "Mapping will not be coming
> back in it's current form.  The developers are working on something new."
>
> On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 10:59 AM ltsjdad  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Found this on the Legacy Users group on Facebook:
>>
>> We're approaching a year-and-a-half since the Mapping feature stopped
>> working. It's way past time for Legacy to make a statement about whether
>> they intend to make it function once again. Stating that they have a policy
>> not to disclose what their programmers are working on is not satisfactory
>> to the many users who have a legitimate interest in this feature. I'm not
>> asking when it will be restored. I'm not asking what progress is being made
>> to restore Mapping. I'm simply asking it Legacy has any intention of
>> restoring the Mapping feature?
>>
>> Admin has shutdown all comments on the post.
>>
>> Guess this answers the question as to whether Legacy intends to respond
>> to their users.
>>
>> Thanks, Steve Wilson.
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Function

[Ronald Bernier]

Missing from this post is the fact that Michele Simmons Lewis (Legacy
Staff) explained why she shut down the Facebook post - "The thread was
closed because I had answered the question".  "Mapping will not be coming
back in it's current form.  The developers are working on something new."

On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 10:59 AM ltsjdad  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Found this on the Legacy Users group on Facebook:
>
> We're approaching a year-and-a-half since the Mapping feature stopped
> working. It's way past time for Legacy to make a statement about whether
> they intend to make it function once again. Stating that they have a policy
> not to disclose what their programmers are working on is not satisfactory
> to the many users who have a legitimate interest in this feature. I'm not
> asking when it will be restored. I'm not asking what progress is being made
> to restore Mapping. I'm simply asking it Legacy has any intention of
> restoring the Mapping feature?
>
> Admin has shutdown all comments on the post.
>
> Guess this answers the question as to whether Legacy intends to respond to
> their users.
>
> Thanks, Steve Wilson.
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Mapping Function

[ltsjdad]

Hi, 
Found this on the Legacy Users group on Facebook:
We're approaching a year-and-a-half since the Mapping feature stopped working. 
It's way past time for Legacy to make a statement about whether they intend to 
make it function once again. Stating that they have a policy not to disclose 
what their programmers are working on is not satisfactory to the many users who 
have a legitimate interest in this feature. I'm not asking when it will be 
restored. I'm not asking what progress is being made to restore Mapping. I'm 
simply asking it Legacy has any intention of restoring the Mapping feature?
Admin has shutdown all comments on the post. 
Guess this answers the question as to whether Legacy intends to respond to 
their users.
Thanks, Steve Wilson.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[Brian Kelly]

The programmers never predict when any one problem will be fixed. We 
just have to be patient.


Brian Kelly

On 15-Jul-18 8:35 PM, ltsjdad wrote:

Hi,
Can we get an update on when the mapping feature will be up and running.

Thanks, Steve


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[LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[ltsjdad]

Hi,Can we get an update on when the mapping feature will be up and running.
Thanks, Steve 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Feature of Legacy 9

[Sherry H]

Yup - it's broken and there's no way to produce maps.  I don't know if
or when the programmers will get it fixed - it's been broken for a
long time now! One of the best features in Legacy too!!! Very
frustrating.

Sherry



On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 3:20 PM, Dave Johnson  wrote:
> The Legacy Version 9 on my computer works great and I love it.  I just
> assisted a friend to purchase Version 9 Deluxe and get it all set up.
> Unfortunately, the mapping feature, even though it is turned on, does not
> work. Geocoding works fine, but not the mapping.   I'm open to suggestions
> how I can pruduce maps in Legacy.
>
> Thank you for your responses.
>
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[LegacyUG] Mapping Feature of Legacy 9

[Dave Johnson]

The Legacy Version 9 on my computer works great and I love it.  I just
assisted a friend to purchase Version 9 Deluxe and get it all set up.
Unfortunately, the mapping feature, even though it is turned on, does not
work. Geocoding works fine, but not the mapping.   I'm open to suggestions
how I can pruduce maps in Legacy.  

 

Thank you for your responses.

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[Andy Berry]

Microsoft gives advanced notice of changes to its API so that developers
can make the necessary changes. Legacy must not have been listening. This
was their response
"
"The developers are still working on it. From what I understand the
recoding for the maps is going to require much more work than initially
anticipated as the mapping system fix will not just affect the mapping
system but other systems in Legacy.

They have not given an ETA on the fix. They have only said that they are
still working on it and we have reminded them that we have many users
waiting on this fix.

Sincerely,

Jairmie
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree"

For me, the mapping feature is the most important part of Legacy and the
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[Mary Young]

Maybe we can't relax because we think the companies are too relaxed!
Legacy having to deal with Microsoft's coding is nothing new. MS is their
only platform, after all.
Mary zYoung


On 5 Feb 2018 2:06 p.m., "Donna Newell"  wrote:

> If it is more complicated then why is everyone complaining?  I still
> remember them saying it was coding with Microsoft’s. Product not legacy.
> Why not just relax and let the companies work it out.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 5, 2018, at 7:44 AM, Ian Thomas  wrote:
>
> It is more complicated than that.
>
>
>
> ILT
>
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Donna Newell
> *Sent:* Monday, 5 February 2018 11:57 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature
>
>
>
> I was under the impression that the mapping problem was one created
> because Microsoft made some changes.  How can we expect legacy to fix a
> Microsoft change.  I would think the Microsoft people would have to be
> willing to work with the legacy people.  They might have more important
> things to do.  Complaining might make you feel better, but sometime
> patience is required.
>
>
>
> Donna
>
> Ardmore, Oklahoma
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:58 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:
>
> What all the good it will do, AMEN!
>
>
>
> CE
>
>
> ------
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup  on
> behalf of Leo MacDonald 
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 4, 2018 8:46 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature
>
>
>
> I agree with everyone else on this mapping problem, I have spent a lot of
> time entering the coordinates to my locations and since the mapping program
> broke down I've added over a hundred new locations. The mapping feature is
> one of the major selling points for this program, the programmers need to
> put aside some of their fine tuning projects and concentrate on repairing
> the mapping feature as soon as possible.
>
>
> --
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup  on
> behalf of Mary Young 
> *Sent:* February 4, 2018 7:12 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature
>
>
>
> My situation exactly. I have spent untold hours mapping my locations to
> exact addresses. All that work now feels wasted, and I can't progress this
> project.
>
> Mary Young
>
>
> On Sunday, 4 February 2018, Steve Wilson  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I have to agree with Paul. This needs to be a priority for Millennia,
>
>
>
> Thanks, Steve Wilson
>
> Gaithersburg, MD
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Paul Rogers
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:16 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature
>
>
>
> I was a heavy user of the mapping feature and was in the middle of a large
> verification project which has now had to be put on the back burner.
>
>
>
> What concerns me though is that we have heard very little from Millennia
> about this. Are they doing a work-around? Or perhaps doing a re-write to
> use Google maps instead (my personal preference)?
>
>
>
> It would just be nice if they kept us in the loop as to what was happening.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2018, 13:46 Brian Kelly,  wrote:
>
> Ian,
>
> Because the old API for mapping was discontinued by Microsoft ALL
> versions of Legacy which used mapping no longer work. That includes 7.5,
> 8.0 and earlier builds of 9.0. There is no way to revert to an earlier
> version where you can still use mapping.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
> On 29-Jan-18 3:47 AM, Ian Thomas wrote:
> > But I wouldn’t revert to a prior version of Legacy FT in which it was
> still working… I would lose too many nice new features in v9.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[Donna Newell]

If it is more complicated then why is everyone complaining?  I still remember 
them saying it was coding with Microsoft’s. Product not legacy.  Why not just 
relax and let the companies work it out.

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 5, 2018, at 7:44 AM, Ian Thomas  wrote:
> 
> It is more complicated than that.
>  
> ILT
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>  
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Donna Newell
> Sent: Monday, 5 February 2018 11:57 PM
> To: Legacy User Group 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature
>  
> I was under the impression that the mapping problem was one created because 
> Microsoft made some changes.  How can we expect legacy to fix a Microsoft 
> change.  I would think the Microsoft people would have to be willing to work 
> with the legacy people.  They might have more important things to do.  
> Complaining might make you feel better, but sometime patience is required. 
>  
> Donna
> Ardmore, Oklahoma
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:58 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:
> 
> What all the good it will do, AMEN!
>  
> CE
>  
> 
> From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
> Leo MacDonald 
> Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 8:46 PM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature
>  
> I agree with everyone else on this mapping problem, I have spent a lot of 
> time entering the coordinates to my locations and since the mapping program 
> broke down I've added over a hundred new locations. The mapping feature is 
> one of the major selling points for this program, the programmers need to put 
> aside some of their fine tuning projects and concentrate on repairing the 
> mapping feature as soon as possible.
>  
> 
> From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
> Mary Young 
> Sent: February 4, 2018 7:12 PM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature
>  
> My situation exactly. I have spent untold hours mapping my locations to exact 
> addresses. All that work now feels wasted, and I can't progress this project.
> Mary Young
> 
> On Sunday, 4 February 2018, Steve Wilson  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> I have to agree with Paul. This needs to be a priority for Millennia,
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks, Steve Wilson
> 
> Gaithersburg, MD
> 
>  
> 
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Paul Rogers
> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:16 AM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature
> 
>  
> 
> I was a heavy user of the mapping feature and was in the middle of a large 
> verification project which has now had to be put on the back burner.
> 
>  
> 
> What concerns me though is that we have heard very little from Millennia 
> about this. Are they doing a work-around? Or perhaps doing a re-write to use 
> Google maps instead (my personal preference)?
> 
>  
> 
> It would just be nice if they kept us in the loop as to what was happening.
> 
>  
> 
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2018, 13:46 Brian Kelly,  wrote:
> 
> Ian,
> 
> Because the old API for mapping was discontinued by Microsoft ALL
> versions of Legacy which used mapping no longer work. That includes 7.5,
> 8.0 and earlier builds of 9.0. There is no way to revert to an earlier
> version where you can still use mapping.
> 
> Brian Kelly
> 
> On 29-Jan-18 3:47 AM, Ian Thomas wrote:
> > But I wouldn’t revert to a prior version of Legacy FT in which it was still 
> > working… I would lose too many nice new features in v9.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[Ian Thomas]

It is more complicated than that.

ILT
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Donna Newell
Sent: Monday, 5 February 2018 11:57 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

I was under the impression that the mapping problem was one created because 
Microsoft made some changes.  How can we expect legacy to fix a Microsoft 
change.  I would think the Microsoft people would have to be willing to work 
with the legacy people.  They might have more important things to do.  
Complaining might make you feel better, but sometime patience is required.

Donna
Ardmore, Oklahoma
Sent from my iPad

On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:58 PM, CE WOOD mailto:wood...@msn.com>> 
wrote:

What all the good it will do, AMEN!


CE


From: LegacyUserGroup 
mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>>
 on behalf of Leo MacDonald 
mailto:macdonald...@hotmail.com>>
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 8:46 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature


I agree with everyone else on this mapping problem, I have spent a lot of time 
entering the coordinates to my locations and since the mapping program broke 
down I've added over a hundred new locations. The mapping feature is one of the 
major selling points for this program, the programmers need to put aside some 
of their fine tuning projects and concentrate on repairing the mapping feature 
as soon as possible.


From: LegacyUserGroup 
mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>>
 on behalf of Mary Young mailto:m...@cmy.org.uk>>
Sent: February 4, 2018 7:12 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

My situation exactly. I have spent untold hours mapping my locations to exact 
addresses. All that work now feels wasted, and I can't progress this project.
Mary Young

On Sunday, 4 February 2018, Steve Wilson 
mailto:ltsj...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,



I have to agree with Paul. This needs to be a priority for Millennia,



Thanks, Steve Wilson

Gaithersburg, MD



From: LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>]
 On Behalf Of Paul Rogers
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:16 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature



I was a heavy user of the mapping feature and was in the middle of a large 
verification project which has now had to be put on the back burner.



What concerns me though is that we have heard very little from Millennia about 
this. Are they doing a work-around? Or perhaps doing a re-write to use Google 
maps instead (my personal preference)?



It would just be nice if they kept us in the loop as to what was happening.



On Mon, 29 Jan 2018, 13:46 Brian Kelly, 
mailto:exma...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Ian,

Because the old API for mapping was discontinued by Microsoft ALL
versions of Legacy which used mapping no longer work. That includes 7.5,
8.0 and earlier builds of 9.0. There is no way to revert to an earlier
version where you can still use mapping.

Brian Kelly

On 29-Jan-18 3:47 AM, Ian Thomas wrote:
> But I wouldn’t revert to a prior version of Legacy FT in which it was still 
> working… I would lose too many nice new features in v9.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[Donna Newell]

I was under the impression that the mapping problem was one created because 
Microsoft made some changes.  How can we expect legacy to fix a Microsoft 
change.  I would think the Microsoft people would have to be willing to work 
with the legacy people.  They might have more important things to do.  
Complaining might make you feel better, but sometime patience is required. 

Donna
Ardmore, Oklahoma

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 4, 2018, at 10:58 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:
> 
> What all the good it will do, AMEN!
> 
> CE
> 
> 
> From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
> Leo MacDonald 
> Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 8:46 PM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature
>  
> I agree with everyone else on this mapping problem, I have spent a lot of 
> time entering the coordinates to my locations and since the mapping program 
> broke down I've added over a hundred new locations. The mapping feature is 
> one of the major selling points for this program, the programmers need to put 
> aside some of their fine tuning projects and concentrate on repairing the 
> mapping feature as soon as possible.
> 
> 
> From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
> Mary Young 
> Sent: February 4, 2018 7:12 PM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature
>  
> My situation exactly. I have spent untold hours mapping my locations to exact 
> addresses. All that work now feels wasted, and I can't progress this project.
> Mary Young
> 
> On Sunday, 4 February 2018, Steve Wilson  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>  
> 
> I have to agree with Paul. This needs to be a priority for Millennia,
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks, Steve Wilson
> 
> Gaithersburg, MD
> 
>  
> 
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Paul Rogers
> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:16 AM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature
> 
>  
> 
> I was a heavy user of the mapping feature and was in the middle of a large 
> verification project which has now had to be put on the back burner.
> 
>  
> 
> What concerns me though is that we have heard very little from Millennia 
> about this. Are they doing a work-around? Or perhaps doing a re-write to use 
> Google maps instead (my personal preference)?
> 
>  
> 
> It would just be nice if they kept us in the loop as to what was happening.
> 
>  
> 
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2018, 13:46 Brian Kelly,  wrote:
> 
> Ian,
> 
> Because the old API for mapping was discontinued by Microsoft ALL
> versions of Legacy which used mapping no longer work. That includes 7.5,
> 8.0 and earlier builds of 9.0. There is no way to revert to an earlier
> version where you can still use mapping.
> 
> Brian Kelly
> 
> On 29-Jan-18 3:47 AM, Ian Thomas wrote:
> > But I wouldn’t revert to a prior version of Legacy FT in which it was still 
> > working… I would lose too many nice new features in v9.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[Teresa Williams]

 

We here a lot from people who want mapping fixed. Some of us on h eotehr hand want other things fixed and never use mapping at all.

 

For me, I'd rather have Unicde before maps any day. And I'm grateful for the FS fixes in build 209.

 


Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 at 5:46 PM
From: "Leo MacDonald" 
To: "Legacy User Group" 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature




I agree with everyone else on this mapping problem, I have spent a lot of time entering the coordinates to my locations and since the mapping program broke down I've added over a hundred new locations. The mapping feature is one of the major selling points for this program, the programmers need to put aside some of their fine tuning projects and concentrate on repairing the mapping feature as soon as possible.
 



From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of Mary Young 
Sent: February 4, 2018 7:12 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

 


My situation exactly. I have spent untold hours mapping my locations to exact addresses. All that work now feels wasted, and I can't progress this project.
Mary Young

On Sunday, 4 February 2018, Steve Wilson <ltsj...@gmail.com> wrote:




Hi,

 

I have to agree with Paul. This needs to be a priority for Millennia,

 

Thanks, Steve Wilson

Gaithersburg, MD

 


From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of Paul Rogers
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:16 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature


 


I was a heavy user of the mapping feature and was in the middle of a large verification project which has now had to be put on the back burner.


 



What concerns me though is that we have heard very little from Millennia about this. Are they doing a work-around? Or perhaps doing a re-write to use Google maps instead (my personal preference)?



 



It would just be nice if they kept us in the loop as to what was happening.



 



On Mon, 29 Jan 2018, 13:46 Brian Kelly, <exma...@gmail.com> wrote:



Ian,

Because the old API for mapping was discontinued by Microsoft ALL
versions of Legacy which used mapping no longer work. That includes 7.5,
8.0 and earlier builds of 9.0. There is no way to revert to an earlier
version where you can still use mapping.

Brian Kelly

On 29-Jan-18 3:47 AM, Ian Thomas wrote:
> But I wouldn’t revert to a prior version of Legacy FT in which it was still working… I would lose too many nice new features in v9.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[CE WOOD]

What all the good it will do, AMEN!


CE



From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Leo MacDonald 
Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 8:46 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature


I agree with everyone else on this mapping problem, I have spent a lot of time 
entering the coordinates to my locations and since the mapping program broke 
down I've added over a hundred new locations. The mapping feature is one of the 
major selling points for this program, the programmers need to put aside some 
of their fine tuning projects and concentrate on repairing the mapping feature 
as soon as possible.



From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Mary Young 
Sent: February 4, 2018 7:12 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

My situation exactly. I have spent untold hours mapping my locations to exact 
addresses. All that work now feels wasted, and I can't progress this project.
Mary Young

On Sunday, 4 February 2018, Steve Wilson 
mailto:ltsj...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,



I have to agree with Paul. This needs to be a priority for Millennia,



Thanks, Steve Wilson

Gaithersburg, MD



From: LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>]
 On Behalf Of Paul Rogers
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:16 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature



I was a heavy user of the mapping feature and was in the middle of a large 
verification project which has now had to be put on the back burner.



What concerns me though is that we have heard very little from Millennia about 
this. Are they doing a work-around? Or perhaps doing a re-write to use Google 
maps instead (my personal preference)?



It would just be nice if they kept us in the loop as to what was happening.



On Mon, 29 Jan 2018, 13:46 Brian Kelly, 
mailto:exma...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Ian,

Because the old API for mapping was discontinued by Microsoft ALL
versions of Legacy which used mapping no longer work. That includes 7.5,
8.0 and earlier builds of 9.0. There is no way to revert to an earlier
version where you can still use mapping.

Brian Kelly

On 29-Jan-18 3:47 AM, Ian Thomas wrote:
> But I wouldn’t revert to a prior version of Legacy FT in which it was still 
> working… I would lose too many nice new features in v9.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[Leo MacDonald]

I agree with everyone else on this mapping problem, I have spent a lot of time 
entering the coordinates to my locations and since the mapping program broke 
down I've added over a hundred new locations. The mapping feature is one of the 
major selling points for this program, the programmers need to put aside some 
of their fine tuning projects and concentrate on repairing the mapping feature 
as soon as possible.



From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Mary Young 
Sent: February 4, 2018 7:12 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

My situation exactly. I have spent untold hours mapping my locations to exact 
addresses. All that work now feels wasted, and I can't progress this project.
Mary Young

On Sunday, 4 February 2018, Steve Wilson 
mailto:ltsj...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,



I have to agree with Paul. This needs to be a priority for Millennia,



Thanks, Steve Wilson

Gaithersburg, MD



From: LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com<mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>]
 On Behalf Of Paul Rogers
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:16 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature



I was a heavy user of the mapping feature and was in the middle of a large 
verification project which has now had to be put on the back burner.



What concerns me though is that we have heard very little from Millennia about 
this. Are they doing a work-around? Or perhaps doing a re-write to use Google 
maps instead (my personal preference)?



It would just be nice if they kept us in the loop as to what was happening.



On Mon, 29 Jan 2018, 13:46 Brian Kelly, 
mailto:exma...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Ian,

Because the old API for mapping was discontinued by Microsoft ALL
versions of Legacy which used mapping no longer work. That includes 7.5,
8.0 and earlier builds of 9.0. There is no way to revert to an earlier
version where you can still use mapping.

Brian Kelly

On 29-Jan-18 3:47 AM, Ian Thomas wrote:
> But I wouldn’t revert to a prior version of Legacy FT in which it was still 
> working… I would lose too many nice new features in v9.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[Mary Young]

My situation exactly. I have spent untold hours mapping my locations to
exact addresses. All that work now feels wasted, and I can't progress this
project.
Mary Young

On Sunday, 4 February 2018, Steve Wilson  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> I have to agree with Paul. This needs to be a priority for Millennia,
>
>
>
> Thanks, Steve Wilson
>
> Gaithersburg, MD
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Paul Rogers
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:16 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature
>
>
>
> I was a heavy user of the mapping feature and was in the middle of a large
> verification project which has now had to be put on the back burner.
>
>
>
> What concerns me though is that we have heard very little from Millennia
> about this. Are they doing a work-around? Or perhaps doing a re-write to
> use Google maps instead (my personal preference)?
>
>
>
> It would just be nice if they kept us in the loop as to what was happening.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2018, 13:46 Brian Kelly,  wrote:
>
> Ian,
>
> Because the old API for mapping was discontinued by Microsoft ALL
> versions of Legacy which used mapping no longer work. That includes 7.5,
> 8.0 and earlier builds of 9.0. There is no way to revert to an earlier
> version where you can still use mapping.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
> On 29-Jan-18 3:47 AM, Ian Thomas wrote:
> > But I wouldn’t revert to a prior version of Legacy FT in which it was
> still working… I would lose too many nice new features in v9.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[Steve Wilson]

Hi,

 

I have to agree with Paul. This needs to be a priority for Millennia,

 

Thanks, Steve Wilson

Gaithersburg, MD

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Paul Rogers
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 11:16 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

 

I was a heavy user of the mapping feature and was in the middle of a large 
verification project which has now had to be put on the back burner.

 

What concerns me though is that we have heard very little from Millennia about 
this. Are they doing a work-around? Or perhaps doing a re-write to use Google 
maps instead (my personal preference)?

 

It would just be nice if they kept us in the loop as to what was happening.

 

On Mon, 29 Jan 2018, 13:46 Brian Kelly,  wrote:

Ian,

Because the old API for mapping was discontinued by Microsoft ALL
versions of Legacy which used mapping no longer work. That includes 7.5,
8.0 and earlier builds of 9.0. There is no way to revert to an earlier
version where you can still use mapping.

Brian Kelly

On 29-Jan-18 3:47 AM, Ian Thomas wrote:
> But I wouldn’t revert to a prior version of Legacy FT in which it was still 
> working… I would lose too many nice new features in v9.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[Paul Rogers]

I was a heavy user of the mapping feature and was in the middle of a large
verification project which has now had to be put on the back burner.

What concerns me though is that we have heard very little from Millennia
about this. Are they doing a work-around? Or perhaps doing a re-write to
use Google maps instead (my personal preference)?

It would just be nice if they kept us in the loop as to what was happening.

On Mon, 29 Jan 2018, 13:46 Brian Kelly,  wrote:

> Ian,
>
> Because the old API for mapping was discontinued by Microsoft ALL
> versions of Legacy which used mapping no longer work. That includes 7.5,
> 8.0 and earlier builds of 9.0. There is no way to revert to an earlier
> version where you can still use mapping.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
> On 29-Jan-18 3:47 AM, Ian Thomas wrote:
> > But I wouldn’t revert to a prior version of Legacy FT in which it was
> still working… I would lose too many nice new features in v9.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[Brian Kelly]

Ian,

Because the old API for mapping was discontinued by Microsoft ALL 
versions of Legacy which used mapping no longer work. That includes 7.5, 
8.0 and earlier builds of 9.0. There is no way to revert to an earlier 
version where you can still use mapping.


Brian Kelly

On 29-Jan-18 3:47 AM, Ian Thomas wrote:

But I wouldn’t revert to a prior version of Legacy FT in which it was still 
working… I would lose too many nice new features in v9.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[Ian Thomas]

I think this is an irrelevant discussion to add to this forum, but some facts:
The APIs of all software would normally change over time. The licensing 
conditions of the Bing Maps Platform APIs have been revised with the change of 
the new APIs (greater feature set). There is an elaborate Terms of Use, last 
revised  December 2017.

It is necessary to ask Microsoft for a quote for your particular organization’s 
level of use – it is set out in some detail  
here<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/maps/licensing/options>.
(level of use can mean the number of times per week that all persons with a 
copy of Legacy FT use the Mapping lookups)

If you read that page, it is clear that use by a large number of individual 
Legacy users would not qualify for a free license – the number of daily / 
yearly transactions would be exceeded.
I don’t program with the Bing Maps Platform, and I don’t know what Microsoft’s 
change of licensing conditions for the previous APIs (used by Legacy in v9 and 
v8, before “Mapping stopped working”) would be, after release of the latest 
suite of Bing Maps Platform APIs (there are several – 
here<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/maps/choose-your-bing-maps-api> and links 
from that page).  In the Terms of Use, they retain the right to change 
conditions at any time.

Perhaps Microsoft has notified license holders (for use of the prior version of 
their Bing Maps APIs) that they should comply with a strict usage / # of 
transactions by their in-use software.
Obviously I am not aware of discussions between the parties, but I wouldn’t 
think that the MyHeritage involvement would have changed the situation. I would 
guess that Millennia would have pulled the feature from an update of v9 as a 
precaution.

I think this is too complicated and irrelevant a discussion to have here, but I 
was a heavy user of the (Mapping) address lookups and for all its peculiarities 
I wish it was still available. But I wouldn’t revert to a prior version of 
Legacy FT in which it was still working… I would lose too many nice new 
features in v9.

ILT
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Ronald Bernier
Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2018 12:00 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

Actually, it was a decision of Microsoft/Bing to change their API and break the 
mapping within Legacy.  It was not a decision of Millennia/Legacy.

On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 7:46 PM Ian Thomas 
mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Windows 10 updates (eg, 1709) have not caused the ‘Mapping’ in Legacy FT to 
disappear. That was a decision of Millennium.

ILT
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[CE WOOD]

Obviously after so long and so many complaints, Legacy really does not give a 
fig! Gives one good reason to wonder what the future holds...


CE



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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[CE WOOD]

Damn them!




From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Ronald Bernier 
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 5:00 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

Actually, it was a decision of Microsoft/Bing to change their API and break the 
mapping within Legacy.  It was not a decision of Millennia/Legacy.

On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 7:46 PM Ian Thomas 
mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Windows 10 updates (eg, 1709) have not caused the ‘Mapping’ in Legacy FT to 
disappear. That was a decision of Millennium.



ILT

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia



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 On Behalf Of P. Rickert
Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2018 9:03 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature



This certainly answers my questions about the map. I have tried everything to 
get it back, only to discover that this horrible Windows 1709 update is causing 
even more problems.



On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 4:11 PM, Mary Wilson 
mailto:marywilson...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thank you everyone so much: I was on the phone with tech support thinking that 
I was having issues with my computer not downloading, so I appreciate all the 
answers.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 25, 2018, at 3:54 PM, Ian Thomas 
mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Mary, it is ‘broken’ for everyone with the latest update (9.0.0.198) to Legacy 
Family Tree.

I understand that this is because Microsoft have changed the way that 
programmers can interface with Bing Maps, and I think the new way (the API or 
applications programming interface) costs software developers substantially 
more than before.



ILT

Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia



From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Mary Wilson
Sent: Friday, 26 January 2018 9:30 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com>>
Subject: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature



I cannot get the maps to show in the mapping feature: the list is there for the 
family selected, the place for the map appears, blank. I have checked the  
'show map' box in the master location list,I have a deluxe edition and current 
build. I am online,

It used to work, but I haven't tried in a few months and don't know if I missed 
something. I know I had to reinstall when I had computer issues, but everything 
else seems fine, at least that I know of.

Any suggestions: the archive was no help

Mary

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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[Ronald Bernier]

Actually, it was a decision of Microsoft/Bing to change their API and break
the mapping within Legacy.  It was not a decision of Millennia/Legacy.

On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 7:46 PM Ian Thomas  wrote:

> Windows 10 updates (eg, 1709) have not caused the ‘Mapping’ in Legacy FT
> to disappear. That was a decision of Millennium.
>
>
>
> ILT
>
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *P. Rickert
> *Sent:* Sunday, 28 January 2018 9:03 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature
>
>
>
> This certainly answers my questions about the map. I have tried everything
> to get it back, only to discover that this horrible Windows 1709 update is
> causing even more problems.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 4:11 PM, Mary Wilson 
> wrote:
>
> Thank you everyone so much: I was on the phone with tech support thinking
> that I was having issues with my computer not downloading, so I appreciate
> all the answers.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jan 25, 2018, at 3:54 PM, Ian Thomas  wrote:
>
> Mary, it is ‘broken’ for everyone with the latest update (9.0.0.198) to
> Legacy Family Tree.
>
> I understand that this is because Microsoft have changed the way that
> programmers can interface with Bing Maps, and I think the new way (the API
> or applications programming interface) costs software developers
> substantially more than before.
>
>
>
> ILT
>
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Mary Wilson
> *Sent:* Friday, 26 January 2018 9:30 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Mapping feature
>
>
>
> I cannot get the maps to show in the mapping feature: the list is there
> for the family selected, the place for the map appears, blank. I have
> checked the  ​'show map' box in the master location list,I have a deluxe
> edition and current build. I am online,
>
> It used to work, but I haven't tried in a few months and don't know if I
> missed something. I know I had to reinstall when I had computer issues, but
> everything else seems fine, at least that I know of.
>
> Any suggestions: the archive was no help
>
> Mary
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[Ian Thomas]

Windows 10 updates (eg, 1709) have not caused the ‘Mapping’ in Legacy FT to 
disappear. That was a decision of Millennium.

ILT
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of P. Rickert
Sent: Sunday, 28 January 2018 9:03 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

This certainly answers my questions about the map. I have tried everything to 
get it back, only to discover that this horrible Windows 1709 update is causing 
even more problems.

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 4:11 PM, Mary Wilson 
mailto:marywilson...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thank you everyone so much: I was on the phone with tech support thinking that 
I was having issues with my computer not downloading, so I appreciate all the 
answers.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 25, 2018, at 3:54 PM, Ian Thomas 
mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Mary, it is ‘broken’ for everyone with the latest update (9.0.0.198) to Legacy 
Family Tree.
I understand that this is because Microsoft have changed the way that 
programmers can interface with Bing Maps, and I think the new way (the API or 
applications programming interface) costs software developers substantially 
more than before.

ILT
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Mary Wilson
Sent: Friday, 26 January 2018 9:30 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com>>
Subject: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

I cannot get the maps to show in the mapping feature: the list is there for the 
family selected, the place for the map appears, blank. I have checked the  
​'show map' box in the master location list,I have a deluxe edition and current 
build. I am online,
It used to work, but I haven't tried in a few months and don't know if I missed 
something. I know I had to reinstall when I had computer issues, but everything 
else seems fine, at least that I know of.
Any suggestions: the archive was no help
Mary
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[Ronald Ferguson via LegacyUserGroup]

The original message to the list is in the attachment.

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As has been reported continually for months, Mapping Does Not Work.

Ron Ferguson

On Jan 27, 2018 10:02 PM, "P. Rickert"  wrote:
>
> This certainly answers my questions about the map. I have tried everything 
> to get it back, only to discover that this horrible Windows 1709 update is 
> causing even more problems. 
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 4:11 PM, Mary Wilson  
> wrote: 
>
> > Thank you everyone so much: I was on the phone with tech support thinking 
> > that I was having issues with my computer not downloading, so I appreciate 
> > all the answers. 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone 
> > 
> > On Jan 25, 2018, at 3:54 PM, Ian Thomas  wrote: 
> > 
> > Mary, it is ‘broken’ for everyone with the latest update (9.0.0.198) to 
> > Legacy Family Tree. 
> > 
> > I understand that this is because Microsoft have changed the way that 
> > programmers can interface with Bing Maps, and I think the new way (the API 
> > or applications programming interface) costs software developers 
> > substantially more than before. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ILT 
> > 
> > Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com 
> > ] *On Behalf Of *Mary Wilson 
> > *Sent:* Friday, 26 January 2018 9:30 AM 
> > *To:* Legacy User Group  
> > *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Mapping feature 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I cannot get the maps to show in the mapping feature: the list is there 
> > for the family selected, the place for the map appears, blank. I have 
> > checked the  ​'show map' box in the master location list,I have a deluxe 
> > edition and current build. I am online, 
> > 
> > It used to work, but I haven't tried in a few months and don't know if I 
> > missed something. I know I had to reinstall when I had computer issues, but 
> > everything else seems fine, at least that I know of. 
> > 
> > Any suggestions: the archive was no help 
> > 
> > Mary 
> > 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[P. Rickert]

This certainly answers my questions about the map. I have tried everything
to get it back, only to discover that this horrible Windows 1709 update is
causing even more problems.

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 4:11 PM, Mary Wilson 
wrote:

> Thank you everyone so much: I was on the phone with tech support thinking
> that I was having issues with my computer not downloading, so I appreciate
> all the answers.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 25, 2018, at 3:54 PM, Ian Thomas  wrote:
>
> Mary, it is ‘broken’ for everyone with the latest update (9.0.0.198) to
> Legacy Family Tree.
>
> I understand that this is because Microsoft have changed the way that
> programmers can interface with Bing Maps, and I think the new way (the API
> or applications programming interface) costs software developers
> substantially more than before.
>
>
>
> ILT
>
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *Mary Wilson
> *Sent:* Friday, 26 January 2018 9:30 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Mapping feature
>
>
>
> I cannot get the maps to show in the mapping feature: the list is there
> for the family selected, the place for the map appears, blank. I have
> checked the  ​'show map' box in the master location list,I have a deluxe
> edition and current build. I am online,
>
> It used to work, but I haven't tried in a few months and don't know if I
> missed something. I know I had to reinstall when I had computer issues, but
> everything else seems fine, at least that I know of.
>
> Any suggestions: the archive was no help
>
> Mary
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[Mary Wilson]

Thank you everyone so much: I was on the phone with tech support thinking that 
I was having issues with my computer not downloading, so I appreciate all the 
answers.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 25, 2018, at 3:54 PM, Ian Thomas  wrote:
> 
> Mary, it is ‘broken’ for everyone with the latest update (9.0.0.198) to 
> Legacy Family Tree.
> I understand that this is because Microsoft have changed the way that 
> programmers can interface with Bing Maps, and I think the new way (the API or 
> applications programming interface) costs software developers substantially 
> more than before.
>  
> ILT
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>  
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Mary Wilson
> Sent: Friday, 26 January 2018 9:30 AM
> To: Legacy User Group 
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature
>  
> I cannot get the maps to show in the mapping feature: the list is there for 
> the family selected, the place for the map appears, blank. I have checked the 
>  ​'show map' box in the master location list,I have a deluxe edition and 
> current build. I am online,
> It used to work, but I haven't tried in a few months and don't know if I 
> missed something. I know I had to reinstall when I had computer issues, but 
> everything else seems fine, at least that I know of. 
> Any suggestions: the archive was no help
> Mary
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[Ian Thomas]

Mary, it is ‘broken’ for everyone with the latest update (9.0.0.198) to Legacy 
Family Tree.
I understand that this is because Microsoft have changed the way that 
programmers can interface with Bing Maps, and I think the new way (the API or 
applications programming interface) costs software developers substantially 
more than before.

ILT
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Mary Wilson
Sent: Friday, 26 January 2018 9:30 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

I cannot get the maps to show in the mapping feature: the list is there for the 
family selected, the place for the map appears, blank. I have checked the  
​'show map' box in the master location list,I have a deluxe edition and current 
build. I am online,
It used to work, but I haven't tried in a few months and don't know if I missed 
something. I know I had to reinstall when I had computer issues, but everything 
else seems fine, at least that I know of.
Any suggestions: the archive was no help
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[Sherry H]

It's been broken for months. No idea if or when it will be fixed. It's
been a very popular feature and a lot of people are very frustrated
that it's not working

Sherry

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Mary Wilson  wrote:
> I cannot get the maps to show in the mapping feature: the list is there for
> the family selected, the place for the map appears, blank. I have checked
> the  'show map' box in the master location list,I have a deluxe edition and
> current build. I am online,
> It used to work, but I haven't tried in a few months and don't know if I
> missed something. I know I had to reinstall when I had computer issues, but
> everything else seems fine, at least that I know of.
> Any suggestions: the archive was no help
> Mary

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[LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[Mary Wilson]

I cannot get the maps to show in the mapping feature: the list is there for
the family selected, the place for the map appears, blank. I have checked
the  ​'show map' box in the master location list,I have a deluxe edition
and current build. I am online,
It used to work, but I haven't tried in a few months and don't know if I
missed something. I know I had to reinstall when I had computer issues, but
everything else seems fine, at least that I know of.
Any suggestions: the archive was no help
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Re: [LegacyUG] mapping locations

[Ian Thomas]

Legacy Mapping troubles me.
Though a big Microsoft fan, I do find that Google has better world coverage 
(Google Maps vs Bing Maps) and sometimes better accuracy. Both have some 
errors, in my experience (outside of my use of Legacy FT).
I can't blame either for not recognizing some of the places from centuries ago 
for which the present usage is irrelevant.
Also, omission of suburbs /  some locations in Samoa which I thought these 
USA-based organizations would cover well is not unexpected, realistically. They 
are small and numerous, with variable spelling.
Using the Legacy Mapping, I resort to researching the exact location of 
troublesome places (by internet, usually), then comparing a map of my preferred 
location with the Legacy map, and right-clicking to fix its location in the 
programme.
I find the digital method to enter the latitude/longitude in Legacy Mapping to 
be very awkward.
There are gazetteers that give accurately the lat/long of places, and it would 
be nice to be able to use those accurate positionings in a friendly way. I have 
some suggestions - perhaps best expressed directly to Millennium.

Ian Thomas
Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of CE WOOD
Sent: Tuesday, 25 April 2017 4:30 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] mapping locations


It varies. Sometimes Google is not spot on - search for a church, and it's 
somewhere in the area, but not the church - even using exact coordinates!



The same problem occurs sometimes with Bing.



Genuki is unparallelled for old maps of Britain. You can get the town and zero 
in on the castle ruins, church, etc., and get the coordinates. Those have 
always been correct when I search Google or Bing for those exact coordinates.





It is always wise to use at least two map searches to verify, AND, click on the 
exact location to see the coordinates. Then do a separate search for those 
exact coordinates. I have found many errors that way.




CE


From: LegacyUserGroup 
mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>>
 on behalf of Cheryl Rothwell 
mailto:historysle...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 5:38 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] mapping locations

I hadn't tried it before. I did spend many days cleaning up the master place 
list earlier this year so I know they are correct.

I have noticed this issue in the past when programs use Bing. If I search for 
the place in Google they come up correctly.

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 3:01 AM, Cathy Pinner 
mailto:genea...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Cheryl
Are you saying that it was OK in Legacy 8 or is this the first time you've 
tried Map My Family?

In the Master Location list with maps on, have you asked Legacy to auto 
map/geocode your locations? If you do that, you need to check them.

In the Master Location list, there is a button near the top of the screen - 
with "Geo-Code" written on it.
Click that and there are a number of options which include Geo code the current 
location again (meaning the highlighted location)
That may give you a better mapping.
Or simply go to the right place on the map and then right click on the map to 
reset the pin.

Bing maps, which Legacy links to, are pretty good at finding places but I don't 
know about US locations. The normal problems I have is for historic locations 
where the name has changed. Otherwise, it does a pretty good job of my 
Australian and UK locations.

Once you've verified the relevant locations, go back to Map My Family.

Cathy


Cheryl Rothwell wrote:


In my Legacy 9 the maps seem to more than a little off.

As an example, my 3rd great grandparents were married in Madison
County, Ohio. I thought - and Google agrees - that that is between
Columbus and Dayton. With Map my Family it is on Lake Erie, east of
Cleveland toward the New York line.  Logan County, Illinois, has moved
to eastern Macon County, Illinois.

Note that there is no other info in those locations, just the county
name, state, USA.

What is causing this? I assume it is something I am doing but what?

Cheryl Rothwell

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Re: [LegacyUG] mapping locations

[Cheryl Rothwell]

I'm not looking for these places. I know where they are.  ;) That's how I
know how wrong the maps are.

Google is not perfect but, in my searches, it has been about spot on every
time. The mapping feature of Legacy is not critical to me but if it was I
would be unhappy.

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 2:30 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:

> It varies. Sometimes Google is not spot on - search for a church, and it's
> somewhere in the area, but not the church - even using exact coordinates!
>
>
> The same problem occurs sometimes with Bing.
>
>
> Genuki is unparallelled for old maps of Britain. You can get the town and
> zero in on the castle ruins, church, etc., and get the coordinates. Those
> have *always* been correct when I search Google or Bing for those exact
> coordinates.
>
>
>
> It is always wise to use at least two map searches to verify, AND, click
> on the exact location to see the coordinates. Then do a separate search for
> those exact coordinates. I have found many errors that way.
>
>
>
> CE
>
>
> --
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup  on
> behalf of Cheryl Rothwell 
> *Sent:* Monday, April 24, 2017 5:38 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] mapping locations
>
> I hadn't tried it before. I did spend many days cleaning up the master
> place list earlier this year so I know they are correct.
>
> I have noticed this issue in the past when programs use Bing. If I search
> for the place in Google they come up correctly.
>
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 3:01 AM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:
>
>> Cheryl
>> Are you saying that it was OK in Legacy 8 or is this the first time
>> you've tried Map My Family?
>>
>> In the Master Location list with maps on, have you asked Legacy to auto
>> map/geocode your locations? If you do that, you need to check them.
>>
>> In the Master Location list, there is a button near the top of the screen
>> - with "Geo-Code" written on it.
>> Click that and there are a number of options which include Geo code the
>> current location again (meaning the highlighted location)
>> That may give you a better mapping.
>> Or simply go to the right place on the map and then right click on the
>> map to reset the pin.
>>
>> Bing maps, which Legacy links to, are pretty good at finding places but I
>> don't know about US locations. The normal problems I have is for historic
>> locations where the name has changed. Otherwise, it does a pretty good job
>> of my Australian and UK locations.
>>
>> Once you've verified the relevant locations, go back to Map My Family.
>>
>> Cathy
>>
>>
>> Cheryl Rothwell wrote:
>>
>>
>> In my Legacy 9 the maps seem to more than a little off.
>>
>> As an example, my 3rd great grandparents were married in Madison
>> County, Ohio. I thought - and Google agrees - that that is between
>> Columbus and Dayton. With Map my Family it is on Lake Erie, east of
>> Cleveland toward the New York line.  Logan County, Illinois, has moved
>> to eastern Macon County, Illinois.
>>
>> Note that there is no other info in those locations, just the county
>> name, state, USA.
>>
>> What is causing this? I assume it is something I am doing but what?
>>
>> Cheryl Rothwell
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] mapping locations

[CE WOOD]

It varies. Sometimes Google is not spot on - search for a church, and it's 
somewhere in the area, but not the church - even using exact coordinates!


The same problem occurs sometimes with Bing.


Genuki is unparallelled for old maps of Britain. You can get the town and zero 
in on the castle ruins, church, etc., and get the coordinates. Those have 
always been correct when I search Google or Bing for those exact coordinates.



It is always wise to use at least two map searches to verify, AND, click on the 
exact location to see the coordinates. Then do a separate search for those 
exact coordinates. I have found many errors that way.



CE



From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Cheryl Rothwell 
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 5:38 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] mapping locations

I hadn't tried it before. I did spend many days cleaning up the master place 
list earlier this year so I know they are correct.

I have noticed this issue in the past when programs use Bing. If I search for 
the place in Google they come up correctly.

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 3:01 AM, Cathy Pinner 
mailto:genea...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Cheryl
Are you saying that it was OK in Legacy 8 or is this the first time you've 
tried Map My Family?

In the Master Location list with maps on, have you asked Legacy to auto 
map/geocode your locations? If you do that, you need to check them.

In the Master Location list, there is a button near the top of the screen - 
with "Geo-Code" written on it.
Click that and there are a number of options which include Geo code the current 
location again (meaning the highlighted location)
That may give you a better mapping.
Or simply go to the right place on the map and then right click on the map to 
reset the pin.

Bing maps, which Legacy links to, are pretty good at finding places but I don't 
know about US locations. The normal problems I have is for historic locations 
where the name has changed. Otherwise, it does a pretty good job of my 
Australian and UK locations.

Once you've verified the relevant locations, go back to Map My Family.

Cathy


Cheryl Rothwell wrote:

In my Legacy 9 the maps seem to more than a little off.

As an example, my 3rd great grandparents were married in Madison
County, Ohio. I thought - and Google agrees - that that is between
Columbus and Dayton. With Map my Family it is on Lake Erie, east of
Cleveland toward the New York line.  Logan County, Illinois, has moved
to eastern Macon County, Illinois.

Note that there is no other info in those locations, just the county
name, state, USA.

What is causing this? I assume it is something I am doing but what?

Cheryl Rothwell

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Re: [LegacyUG] mapping locations

[Cheryl Rothwell]

I hadn't tried it before. I did spend many days cleaning up the master
place list earlier this year so I know they are correct.

I have noticed this issue in the past when programs use Bing. If I search
for the place in Google they come up correctly.

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 3:01 AM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:

> Cheryl
> Are you saying that it was OK in Legacy 8 or is this the first time you've
> tried Map My Family?
>
> In the Master Location list with maps on, have you asked Legacy to auto
> map/geocode your locations? If you do that, you need to check them.
>
> In the Master Location list, there is a button near the top of the screen
> - with "Geo-Code" written on it.
> Click that and there are a number of options which include Geo code the
> current location again (meaning the highlighted location)
> That may give you a better mapping.
> Or simply go to the right place on the map and then right click on the map
> to reset the pin.
>
> Bing maps, which Legacy links to, are pretty good at finding places but I
> don't know about US locations. The normal problems I have is for historic
> locations where the name has changed. Otherwise, it does a pretty good job
> of my Australian and UK locations.
>
> Once you've verified the relevant locations, go back to Map My Family.
>
> Cathy
>
>
> Cheryl Rothwell wrote:
>
>
> In my Legacy 9 the maps seem to more than a little off.
>
> As an example, my 3rd great grandparents were married in Madison
> County, Ohio. I thought - and Google agrees - that that is between
> Columbus and Dayton. With Map my Family it is on Lake Erie, east of
> Cleveland toward the New York line.  Logan County, Illinois, has moved
> to eastern Macon County, Illinois.
>
> Note that there is no other info in those locations, just the county
> name, state, USA.
>
> What is causing this? I assume it is something I am doing but what?
>
> Cheryl Rothwell
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] mapping locations

[Cathy Pinner]

Cheryl
Are you saying that it was OK in Legacy 8 or is this the first time 
you've tried Map My Family?


In the Master Location list with maps on, have you asked Legacy to auto 
map/geocode your locations? If you do that, you need to check them.


In the Master Location list, there is a button near the top of the 
screen - with "Geo-Code" written on it.
Click that and there are a number of options which include Geo code the 
current location again (meaning the highlighted location)

That may give you a better mapping.
Or simply go to the right place on the map and then right click on the 
map to reset the pin.


Bing maps, which Legacy links to, are pretty good at finding places but 
I don't know about US locations. The normal problems I have is for 
historic locations where the name has changed. Otherwise, it does a 
pretty good job of my Australian and UK locations.


Once you've verified the relevant locations, go back to Map My Family.

Cathy

Cheryl Rothwell wrote:


In my Legacy 9 the maps seem to more than a little off.

As an example, my 3rd great grandparents were married in Madison
County, Ohio. I thought - and Google agrees - that that is between
Columbus and Dayton. With Map my Family it is on Lake Erie, east of
Cleveland toward the New York line. Logan County, Illinois, has moved
to eastern Macon County, Illinois.

Note that there is no other info in those locations, just the county
name, state, USA.

What is causing this? I assume it is something I am doing but what?

Cheryl Rothwell
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[LegacyUG] mapping locations

[Cheryl Rothwell]

In my Legacy 9 the maps seem to more than a little off.

As an example, my 3rd great grandparents were married in Madison County,
Ohio. I thought - and Google agrees - that that is between Columbus and
Dayton. With Map my Family it is on Lake Erie, east of Cleveland toward the
New York line.  Logan County, Illinois, has moved to eastern Macon County,
Illinois.

Note that there is no other info in those locations, just the county name,
state, USA.

What is causing this? I assume it is something I am doing but what?

Cheryl Rothwell
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RE: [LegacyUG] mapping OneDrive

[Larry Edralin]

More valuable input.  Thanks

Here is my updated understanding:

Keeping family file:

On Removable drive. - must always have that drive connected
to the device/computer being used for Legacy execution.  Limited risk if
backups done on cloud server.  One needs to be careful when doing backups to
watch file locations and names for both family files and media files.  You
can restore these backups if drive crashes, is lost, or stolen.



On a cloud server -  Possible solution if one uses multiple
machines. E.g. Desktop and Laptop.   Must consider file size and upload
speed since Legacy dynamically makes changes to the file and these are then
synced to server.



On PC/device running Legacy - best scenario if you only run
one machine to keep family file on the local PC.  However, if you use a
laptop, working with a single version (last updated) family file is
complicated.  Here I would still keep media files  and their backups on a
cloud server as well as backups of family files.



I see the benefit of keeping all media files on a cloud server.  Both source
and backups.  I also see benefits to having family file and media backups
there even though they are relatively small.  Just for absolutely clear
off-site storage and security.  I also see a process of some mix of things
like restoring the backup files from alternate machines and backing up again
to the same cloud locations.



I will find comfort somewhere in these solutions as have all other Legacy
users.  For now I put everything on a cloud server.  SO far it's worked
well.









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Re: [LegacyUG] mapping OneDrive

[MikeFry]

On 2015/04/19 17:36 PM, Paul Gray wrote:

> The concept that using One Drive or Dropbox for your Legacy Family is
> 'operating with cloud based storage' is inaccurate. These products have a one
> instance of the file on your local computer, and another instance up in the
> cloud. There will be additional instances on other computers if you have
> others connected to the account.
>
> When you are using Legacy, you are operating on the local file on your PC,
> and the 'cloud copy' is updated subsequent to the local copy. You can
> continue to use Legacy even if you have no live internet connection.
>
> I see absolutely no problem using One Drive for the main family file.
>
> Mike, what do you see as the downside of using One Drive (or it's cousins) as
> the family file location.

Because as you make changes to the family file, OneDrive will try to upload each
change as it happens. Each time it uploads, it copies the whole file, not just
what was changed. To work like this you need fast broadband upload capability (I
don't think there's much of that around) most upload speeds are a maximum of
half the download or rated line speed. Another thing to be thrown into the
calculation: capped or uncapped.

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RE: [LegacyUG] mapping OneDrive

[Paul Gray]

The concept that using One Drive or Dropbox for your Legacy Family is 
'operating with cloud based storage' is inaccurate. These products have a one 
instance of the file on your local computer, and another instance up in the 
cloud. There will be additional instances on other computers if you have others 
connected to the account.

When you are using Legacy, you are operating on the local file on your PC, and 
the 'cloud copy' is updated subsequent to the local copy. You can continue to 
use Legacy even if you have no live internet connection.

I see absolutely no problem using One Drive for the main family file.

Mike, what do you see as the downside of using One Drive (or it's cousins) as 
the family file location.

Paul Gray



-Original Message-
From: MikeFry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com]
Sent: April-19-15 1:53 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] mapping OneDrive

On 2015/04/19 01:30 AM, Larry Edralin wrote:

> Thank you Brian.  It seems that OneDrive is a better resource for
> backup and not active files.  I probably use it as backup and probably
> use a removable drive for photos to save space on my hard drive.
>
> I will try the suggestion anyway to see how I like it.

Something I meant to ad in my previous post.

Whilst saying that I thought it bad practice to use the Cloud as a storage 
medium, this should have been directed at not using the Cloud to store your 
Family DataBase file. These online storage facilities are best suited to files 
that do not change very much: such as images. The FDB files can be kept online, 
in a way, simply by making your OneDrive folder the target for Backups. You 
then get a copy of the backup on your local disk and another one replicated in 
the Cloud.

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Re: [LegacyUG] mapping OneDrive

[MikeFry]

On 2015/04/19 01:30 AM, Larry Edralin wrote:

> Thank you Brian.  It seems that OneDrive is a better resource for backup and 
> not
> active files.  I probably use it as backup and probably use a removable drive
> for photos to save space on my hard drive.
>
> I will try the suggestion anyway to see how I like it.

Something I meant to ad in my previous post.

Whilst saying that I thought it bad practice to use the Cloud as a storage
medium, this should have been directed at not using the Cloud to store your
Family DataBase file. These online storage facilities are best suited to files
that do not change very much: such as images. The FDB files can be kept online,
in a way, simply by making your OneDrive folder the target for Backups. You then
get a copy of the backup on your local disk and another one replicated in the 
Cloud.

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RE: [LegacyUG] mapping OneDrive

[Larry Edralin]

Great feedback from all.  I've tried the methods and think it does make
sense to keep files on OneDrive.  Knowing that Legacy works like libraries
and simply links to file locations of source files helped a lot. I also now
know where the link to the OneDrive (cloud) is located on my computer.   I
do use multiple computers and devices so this is a good solution.  My
sincere thanks to those who answered.





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Re: [LegacyUG] mapping OneDrive

[Cathy Pinner]

Larry,
There's no reason why you shouldn't keep your media in OneDrive once
you've worked out where the folders are on your computer. You will need
to tell OneDrive that you want offline access on the folder(s) with the
media.
I keep my media in Dropbox which I find easier to use as it
automatically gives you online and offline access.

Your thought of putting them on a removeable drive is a bad one. You'd
have to have the removeable drive always attached to your computer when
using Legacy as Legacy just links to the media.

With photos, you need to keep an archive copy but the copy attached to
Legacy can be
a smaller copy - less than screen size is fine. With documents you may
need the full size but not with photos. The only exception is a photo
you may want to use as a cover photo for a report and that can be
attached from elsewhere on your computer anyway.

Cathy

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> Sounds like good advice and I probably will do this. However, the
> aspects of keeping files up in the cloud (OneDrive) is compelling.
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RE: [LegacyUG] mapping OneDrive

[Larry Edralin]

Sounds like good advice and I probably will do this.  However, the aspects
of keeping files up in the cloud (OneDrive) is compelling.





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RE: [LegacyUG] mapping OneDrive

[Larry Edralin]

Thank you Brian.  It seems that OneDrive is a better resource for backup and
not active files.  I probably use it as backup and probably use a removable
drive for photos to save space on my hard drive.



I will try the suggestion anyway to see how I like it.





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Re: [LegacyUG] mapping OneDrive

[MikeFry]

On 2015/04/19 00:29 AM, Larry Edralin wrote:

> I have stored my media (photos) on OneDrive in a folder and want to attach 
> some
> photos to individual files in Legacy 8.0.  When I go to picture center from 
> the
> tools tab, the drop down menu doesn’t include OneDrive as a selectable 
> option.
> Is there a special option for Legacy to recognize, or be mapped to the picture
> center?  I appreciate your help.

Not good practice. I would treat OneDrive purely as a backup medium and keep
images on the PC.

I can achieve what you're trying to do using version 7.5 and I suspect the
process might be the same on version 8.0 but I can't tell since I only have the
"vanilla" options which don't include the Picture Centre.

Using the Browse button (if there is such a thing) on the Picture Centre, you
can select a folder from which to pick images. In order to use your OneDrive
folder, you must know the "true" location of the folder. On my Windows/7 system,
it is found at

C:\Users\\OneDrive

--
Regards,
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[LegacyUG] mapping OneDrive

[Larry Edralin]

I have stored my media (photos) on OneDrive in a folder and want to attach
some photos to individual files in Legacy 8.0.  When I go to picture center
from the tools tab, the drop down menu doesn't include OneDrive as a
selectable option.  Is there a special option for Legacy to recognize, or be
mapped to the picture center?  I appreciate your help.





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RE: [LegacyUG] Mapping program pin icon precision

[CE WOOD]

I have no problem being incredibly precise. For instance, I can get the precise 
location of a church apse or of a church door, etc.

As I have said before, I use several mapping programs because some, like Bing, 
have better photos and bird's eye view, and some, like Google, have more maps 
and are a bit better at guessing the street address of the location you pick. 
Bing is fine if you already know the correct street address, but does not do so 
well where you pinpoint a house, say. It approximates the address, which is 
seldom exactly correct.

With Bing maps, the decimal coordinates show when you are in "road" mode.

The Bing maps in Legacy show excellent photos, but not bird's eye view. The 
great feature with Legacy Bing maps is that while you are zoomed in enough to 
see the church, say, you can right click on a different part of the church or 
in the churchyard, say, and it will ask if you want to use the coordinates of 
the spot you just selected. FANTASTIC!

The only problem is, that if you need the coordinates in decimal to use in Find 
A grave, say, you must convert them. Bing maps itself uses decimal coordinates.

If you are interested in US locations only, USGS is probably better for you. 
Most of my locations are European, with a few Crusader sites in the Mid-East, 
so that is not helpful for me.

CE

Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 20:47:40 -0700
From: hwedh...@cox.net
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Mapping program pin icon precision






One of my consistent
observations about various map display programs that use a
pushpin or map tack icon to indicate locations, is that those
icons regularly associate map locations with the body of the pin
icons, rather than with the point of the pin icons.  How can
anyone trust the locations determined by programs like that?
How can such imprecise visual locations be compared from one
mapping program to another when it is impossible to know where
on the pin icon the designated map location may be found?



When I have asked the various manufacturers of such programs
about the imprecise nature of the pin locations they have
invariably told me that if I would simply zoom in on the
location the pins would be more precise.  I have not found that
to be true, however and wonder what impressions others have of
such programs, and whether anyone has found a mapping program
that uses the pin icon pinpoints to designate locations?



John Zimmerman

Mesa, AZ


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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping program pin icon precision

[Larry Lee]

John,

Not sure if this is what you wanted but I went to the USGS and found this
http://viewer.nationalmap.gov/viewer/
Doesn't seem to be interactive but I was able to locate my house then
pinning displays the coordinates in several formats.

Larry Lee
ldlee...@gmail.com



On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 8:47 PM, hwedhlor  wrote:

>  One of my consistent observations about various map display programs
> that use a pushpin or map tack icon to indicate locations, is that those
> icons regularly associate map locations with the body of the pin icons,
> rather than with the point of the pin icons.  How can anyone trust the
> locations determined by programs like that?  How can such imprecise visual
> locations be compared from one mapping program to another when it is
> impossible to know where on the pin icon the designated map location may be
> found?
>
> When I have asked the various manufacturers of such programs about the
> imprecise nature of the pin locations they have invariably told me that if
> I would simply zoom in on the location the pins would be more precise.  I
> have not found that to be true, however and wonder what impressions others
> have of such programs, and whether anyone has found a mapping program that
> uses the pin icon pinpoints to designate locations?
>
> John Zimmerman
> Mesa, AZ
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Mapping program pin icon precision

[hwedhlor]

One of my consistent observations about various map display
programs that use a pushpin or map tack icon to indicate
locations, is that those icons regularly associate map
locations with the body of the pin icons, rather than with
the point of the pin icons.  How can anyone trust the
locations determined by programs like that? How can such
imprecise visual locations be compared from one mapping
program to another when it is impossible to know where on
the pin icon the designated map location may be found?

When I have asked the various manufacturers of such programs
about the imprecise nature of the pin locations they have
invariably told me that if I would simply zoom in on the
location the pins would be more precise.  I have not found
that to be true, however and wonder what impressions others
have of such programs, and whether anyone has found a
mapping program that uses the pin icon pinpoints to
designate locations?

John Zimmerman
Mesa, AZ




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Re: [LegacyUG] MAPPING FEAURE

[Tim Rosenlof]

On 6/28/2012 3:23 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
> On 28/06/2012 01:06, Ian GARDENER wrote:
> Also what do you think about travelled as an entry in a database?
>> I suppose it may be of interest to descendants etc..
>>
> Rather depends, I think, whether you are greating a Genealogy or a
> Family History.  When, where, how and why people travelled is definitely
> part of their Family History and helps to put meat on the bones and give
> a rounded picture of someone.
>

My family does not care about genealogy, so I am doing both. Hard to
keep track, but use a nice tool that helps me with both.

--
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Utah, USA
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Re: [LegacyUG] MAPPING FEAURE

[Ron Ferguson]

-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 11:50 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MAPPING FEAURE

On 30/06/2012 04:55, Virginia Dunham wrote:
> I am not sure this will work for you...
>
> What if you added another "Travel" event...but name it as
> Travel[[without place entry]]...and then instead of entering the place
> in the "place slot" enter it into the "description slot"
> That should prevent mapping from mapping it...and by using the double
> brackets, the "without place entry" would only be seen by you, but all
> of the travel events would still print on the reports.

If a new Event is to be created, it might as well be called Holidays or
Vacations or something, to distinguish it from the Travel events where
the location is to be mapped.

--
Jenny M Benson

If a new Holiday Event is going to be created, why not go the whole hog and
create a brand new event (View>Master Sources>Event Description>Add), and
simply omit the places field.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/




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Re: [LegacyUG] MAPPING FEAURE

[Jenny M Benson]

On 30/06/2012 04:55, Virginia Dunham wrote:
> I am not sure this will work for you...
>
> What if you added another "Travel" event...but name it as
> Travel[[without place entry]]...and then instead of entering the place
> in the "place slot" enter it into the "description slot"
> That should prevent mapping from mapping it...and by using the double
> brackets, the "without place entry" would only be seen by you, but all
> of the travel events would still print on the reports.

If a new Event is to be created, it might as well be called Holidays or
Vacations or something, to distinguish it from the Travel events where
the location is to be mapped.

--
Jenny M Benson





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Re: [LegacyUG] MAPPING FEAURE

[K A Horstman]

Were any of these travels to the homes of other family members?  If so,
keeping those events public would help identify those people and where
they lived.

Kathy Horstman


On 6/27/2012 8:06 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I’m trying to map the movements of an individual to assist with my
> research & I’m using a copy of another genie’s legacy database to do
> this. BTW I’ve not used mapping before.
>
> They have included a lot of events marked “travelled” and they are
> obviously holidays & the like all over the world as opposed to moving
> house, employment, etc. Therefore the map gives a very misleading
> impression unless I add a serious amount of notation. Other than
> marking such events as private & excluding private events, is there
> another way to exclude these travel events?
>
> I’m reluctant to change the travel to private as there are already a
> number of other private events & it could get very confusing as those
> ones I intend to include in the map (its for my research purposes only
> & the author is quite happy with that).
>
> I realise I could just remove them or make another copy of the file &
> remove them in that, but I’m wondering if Legacy has any way of doing
> it. Also what do you think about “travelled” as an entry in a
> database? I suppose it may be of interest to descendants etc..
>
> Cheers
>
> Ian GARDENER
>
> Researching the GARDENER name in Australia. Also:
>
> TRAYNOR, MULLER, MILLER, McNAIR, McDOUGALL,
>
> MacDOUGALL, AQUILINA
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] MAPPING FEAURE

[Jenny M Benson]

On 28/06/2012 01:06, Ian GARDENER wrote:
Also what do you think about “travelled” as an entry in a database?
> I suppose it may be of interest to descendants etc..
>
Rather depends, I think, whether you are greating a Genealogy or a
Family History.  When, where, how and why people travelled is definitely
part of their Family History and helps to put meat on the bones and give
a rounded picture of someone.

--
Jenny M Benson





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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping

[Paula Ryburn]

There was an option on the Events to include or exclude Private Events.  Will
log a suggestion.  Thx.
 --Paula in Texas




- Original Message 
From: Sherry/Support 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thu, December 15, 2011 12:26:59 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping

Good question! Privacy options aren't enabled for mapping so it
wouldn't be a bug

Send in a suggestion to add privacy options to mapping and I'll pass
it on to the programmers.

Privacy options should be respected when printing the map but not
necessarily when viewing it.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Paula Ryburn
 wrote:
> Sherri,
> "Bug" or "Suggestion" : Mapping shows birth place of spouse that has been
> flagged as invisible.  ?
>  --Paula in Texas


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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping

[Sherry/Support]

Good question! Privacy options aren't enabled for mapping so it
wouldn't be a bug

Send in a suggestion to add privacy options to mapping and I'll pass
it on to the programmers.

Privacy options should be respected when printing the map but not
necessarily when viewing it.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
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On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Paula Ryburn
 wrote:
> Sherri,
> "Bug" or "Suggestion" : Mapping shows birth place of spouse that has been
> flagged as invisible.  ?
>  --Paula in Texas


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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping

[Paula Ryburn]

Sherri,
"Bug" or "Suggestion" : Mapping shows birth place of spouse that has been
flagged as invisible.  ?
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams



- Original Message 
From: Sherry/Support 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, December 14, 2011 9:31:57 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping

When you're on an individual, just click on the Mapping icon on the
main toolbar to bring up a map for the individual. In the map window,
click on the Options button to select items to include.

The map includes events for the individuals shown in the little
pedigree chart in the upper left.

If you're not seeing a Mapping icon, right click on the main toolbar
and follow the instructions in the Customize Main Toolbar window to
add it.



Sincerely,
Sherry
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping

[Paula Ryburn]

TOO COOL - THX SHERRI!
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams



- Original Message 
From: Sherry/Support 
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wed, December 14, 2011 9:31:57 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping

When you're on an individual, just click on the Mapping icon on the
main toolbar to bring up a map for the individual. In the map window,
click on the Options button to select items to include.

The map includes events for the individuals shown in the little
pedigree chart in the upper left.

If you're not seeing a Mapping icon, right click on the main toolbar
and follow the instructions in the Customize Main Toolbar window to
add it.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping

[Jerry]

Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org

On 12/14/2011 12:11 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
> On 14/12/2011 15:31, Sherry/Support wrote:
>> When you're on an individual, just click on the Mapping icon on the
>> main toolbar to bring up a map for the individual. In the map window,
>> click on the Options button to select items to include.
>>
>> The map includes events for the individuals shown in the little
>> pedigree chart in the upper left.
>
> Good heavens!  I always try and plot a location correctly on the map
> when I add it, but I never realised the screen you described was there!
>Just what I wanted.
>

Me too!  Thanks Sherry!  I overlooked that icon as well, I guess
thinking it just took you to the master location list.  So, it looks
like Legacy might already have what the person was asking for in
tracking migrations for their ancestors, depending on exactly what they
are after.

Jerry


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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping

[Brian/Support]

Once they are together you can use the map icon for an individual who
has children, spouses or parents in the two families. The map icon on
the main tool bar with an individual selected will mark the map with
locations associated with that individual. Use the options button to
select the items to include on the map.

NOTE: If you are choosing the parents birth turn OFF the option to limit
events to the life of the person.

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On 13/12/2011 2:51 PM, Marli Yoder wrote:
> Hi again. Can I use the mapping feature to show where various families were?
> (two different families at the same time? or is this another yeeechhh? )
> Would LTools help? or a totally different program? I looked at Map My Family,
> and it's not what I want.
> Specifically, I want to see a family in a Switzerland area and a family in a
> Germany area to see how far they migrated to get together. I have some 
> specific
> city/canton information, but not all.
> Thanks
> Marli Yoder


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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping

[Jenny M Benson]

On 14/12/2011 15:31, Sherry/Support wrote:
> When you're on an individual, just click on the Mapping icon on the
> main toolbar to bring up a map for the individual. In the map window,
> click on the Options button to select items to include.
>
> The map includes events for the individuals shown in the little
> pedigree chart in the upper left.

Good heavens!  I always try and plot a location correctly on the map
when I add it, but I never realised the screen you described was there!
  Just what I wanted.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping

[Sherry/Support]

When you're on an individual, just click on the Mapping icon on the
main toolbar to bring up a map for the individual. In the map window,
click on the Options button to select items to include.

The map includes events for the individuals shown in the little
pedigree chart in the upper left.

If you're not seeing a Mapping icon, right click on the main toolbar
and follow the instructions in the Customize Main Toolbar window to
add it.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:58 AM, Jenny M Benson  wrote:

>
> Wouldn't it be neat if each Individual's Information screen had an extra
> icon which would lead to a map plotted with every place associated with
> that person?
>
> Not sure if such a thing would ever be within the bounds of possibility
> for a program like Legacy.
>
> --
> Jenny M Benson


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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping

[Ron Ferguson]

-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 9:58 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping

On 14/12/2011 02:01, Jerry wrote:
> I guess no one chimed in here, so I'll give you an idea that you might
> be able to build on.  As far as I know, Legacy can only show you one
> location at a time in its mapping system.  If I'm wrong about that, I'm
> sure someone will correct me in a hurry.  However, there are web-based
> programs where you can show more than one location on the map at the
> same time, so you can keep that in mind if you intend to ever utilize
> your information on a website.  For example, if a particular family
> emigrated to California from Michigan, both of those events could show
> on a Bing or Google mapping system at the same time (you may have to
> adjust the zoom).
>
> On the other hand, if you are speaking about showing how two different
> families changed their residences, such as the children of the parents
> moving from Michigan to California, that might require special software.
>
> However, I do have a sort of work-a-round suggestion that might be
> possible, or at least food for thought.  You could create an EVENT which
> says:
>
> Parents' Residence:
>
> or something that describes what you are after.  Then when you input the
> place name in that event on the child's record, all those locations
> could show up on your web-based database on the same map.  Again, I'm
> not sure if Legacy has that ability.
>
> Just food for thoughtperhaps someone else might come up with some
> other ideas. If this is not clear, just let me know and I can give you
> some links to check our website to see how this displays.


Wouldn't it be neat if each Individual's Information screen had an extra
icon which would lead to a map plotted with every place associated with
that person?

Not sure if such a thing would ever be within the bounds of possibility
for a program like Legacy.

--
Jenny M Benson

Jenny,

Whilst it is not the same, if you have Google Earth installed,  have a look
at http://www.fergys.co.uk/Ferguson/frgindex_files/NorWestEngBirths.kml.
This shows the increase/movement of Fergusons in my files from around 1600
to 2010 (use the slider animation icon). Whilst I am not going to write a
program to do it, it would not be too difficult to enable the selection of
families, and only display those selected.

The link may also be accessed from http://www.fergys.co.uk/Ferguson/maps.php
and basic instructions on writing the scripts are given at
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Blogs/GE.php .

I agree that this would not really be a suitable Legacy project!

Rob Ferguson
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping

[Jenny M Benson]

On 14/12/2011 02:01, Jerry wrote:
> I guess no one chimed in here, so I'll give you an idea that you might
> be able to build on.  As far as I know, Legacy can only show you one
> location at a time in its mapping system.  If I'm wrong about that, I'm
> sure someone will correct me in a hurry.  However, there are web-based
> programs where you can show more than one location on the map at the
> same time, so you can keep that in mind if you intend to ever utilize
> your information on a website.  For example, if a particular family
> emigrated to California from Michigan, both of those events could show
> on a Bing or Google mapping system at the same time (you may have to
> adjust the zoom).
>
> On the other hand, if you are speaking about showing how two different
> families changed their residences, such as the children of the parents
> moving from Michigan to California, that might require special software.
>
> However, I do have a sort of work-a-round suggestion that might be
> possible, or at least food for thought.  You could create an EVENT which
> says:
>
> Parents' Residence:
>
> or something that describes what you are after.  Then when you input the
> place name in that event on the child's record, all those locations
> could show up on your web-based database on the same map.  Again, I'm
> not sure if Legacy has that ability.
>
> Just food for thoughtperhaps someone else might come up with some
> other ideas. If this is not clear, just let me know and I can give you
> some links to check our website to see how this displays.


Wouldn't it be neat if each Individual's Information screen had an extra
icon which would lead to a map plotted with every place associated with
that person?

Not sure if such a thing would ever be within the bounds of possibility
for a program like Legacy.

--
Jenny M Benson


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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping

[Jerry]

I guess no one chimed in here, so I'll give you an idea that you might
be able to build on.  As far as I know, Legacy can only show you one
location at a time in its mapping system.  If I'm wrong about that, I'm
sure someone will correct me in a hurry.  However, there are web-based
programs where you can show more than one location on the map at the
same time, so you can keep that in mind if you intend to ever utilize
your information on a website.  For example, if a particular family
emigrated to California from Michigan, both of those events could show
on a Bing or Google mapping system at the same time (you may have to
adjust the zoom).

On the other hand, if you are speaking about showing how two different
families changed their residences, such as the children of the parents
moving from Michigan to California, that might require special software.

However, I do have a sort of work-a-round suggestion that might be
possible, or at least food for thought.  You could create an EVENT which
says:

Parents' Residence:

or something that describes what you are after.  Then when you input the
place name in that event on the child's record, all those locations
could show up on your web-based database on the same map.  Again, I'm
not sure if Legacy has that ability.

Just food for thoughtperhaps someone else might come up with some
other ideas. If this is not clear, just let me know and I can give you
some links to check our website to see how this displays.

Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org

On 12/13/2011 2:51 PM, Marli Yoder wrote:
> Hi again. Can I use the mapping feature to show where various families
> were? (two different families at the same time? or is this another
> yeeechhh? )
> Would LTools help? or a totally different program? I looked at Map My
> Family, and it's not what I want.
> Specifically, I want to see a family in a Switzerland area and a family
> in a Germany area to see how far they migrated to get together. I have
> some specific city/canton information, but not all.
> Thanks
> Marli Yoder
> A & M Farms
> Eureka & Sturgeon Missouri
>
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[LegacyUG] Mapping

[Marli Yoder]

Hi again. Can I use the mapping feature to show where various families were?
(two different families at the same time? or is this another yeeechhh? )
Would LTools help? or a totally different program? I looked at Map My Family,
and it's not what I want.
Specifically, I want to see a family in a Switzerland area and a family in a
Germany area to see how far they migrated to get together. I have some specific
city/canton information, but not all.
Thanks
Marli Yoder
A & M Farms
Eureka & Sturgeon Missouri


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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping of various cemeteries / locations

[Ron Ferguson]

Neat, Denis. Naturally having already set up the structure to use Google
Earth it would take me no time at all to enter data from anywhere, and have
it reproduced. I can appreciate that for a one-off your way would be both
easier and faster to do.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Denis Xenos
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 8:28 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping of various cemeteries / locations

Thanks Ron
Your site has great ideas. I will be in contact.

A simple way using the only Legacy tools is:
A)  Add an Individual called "NewYork", "Trip"
B)  Create a new Event Called "Sites" with "Show a Place Field" only.
C)  Add as many "Sites" as required for all the required Locations.
D)  Use the" Plot locations on map" button.
You now have one map with all the locations you wanted.

Denis

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Ron Ferguson 
wrote:
> Denis,
>
> The complexities of doing this are beyond the remit of this list, so I
> suggest that you look at my tutorial at
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Blogs/GE.php
>
> You may also like to look at a more advanced output using a different, but
> much more complicated, technique at
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Ferguson/maps.php (bottom of the page).
>
> If necessary, I will be happy to discuss it with you off-list.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Denis Xenos
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 7:42 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Mapping of various cemeteries / locations
>
> I am planning a road trip. I want to visit some of my Legacy locations
> and cemeteries.
>
> I am looking for a way to display (on one map) any group of cemeteries
> / locations listed in my Legacy database. Longitudes and latitudes
> have been added to both the Master Location List and the Events
> Address List.  I would also like to export the longitudes and
> latitudes for various cemeteries / locations so the data can be used
> by a GPS.
>
> Any ideas are greatly appreciated
>
> Denis
>




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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping of various cemeteries / locations

[Denis Xenos]

Thanks Ron
Your site has great ideas. I will be in contact.

A simple way using the only Legacy tools is:
A)  Add an Individual called "NewYork", "Trip"
B)  Create a new Event Called "Sites" with "Show a Place Field" only.
C)  Add as many "Sites" as required for all the required Locations.
D)  Use the" Plot locations on map" button.
You now have one map with all the locations you wanted.

Denis

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Ron Ferguson  wrote:
> Denis,
>
> The complexities of doing this are beyond the remit of this list, so I
> suggest that you look at my tutorial at http://www.fergys.co.uk/Blogs/GE.php
>
> You may also like to look at a more advanced output using a different, but
> much more complicated, technique at
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Ferguson/maps.php (bottom of the page).
>
> If necessary, I will be happy to discuss it with you off-list.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Denis Xenos
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 7:42 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Mapping of various cemeteries / locations
>
> I am planning a road trip. I want to visit some of my Legacy locations
> and cemeteries.
>
> I am looking for a way to display (on one map) any group of cemeteries
> / locations listed in my Legacy database. Longitudes and latitudes
> have been added to both the Master Location List and the Events
> Address List.  I would also like to export the longitudes and
> latitudes for various cemeteries / locations so the data can be used
> by a GPS.
>
> Any ideas are greatly appreciated
>
> Denis
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping of various cemeteries / locations

[Wendy Howard]

Hi Denis,

> I am planning a road trip. I want to visit some of my Legacy locations
> and cemeteries.

I note also that locations can be tagged in the Master Location List in
Legacy.  The Help file says:

"You can tag locations so that you can filter the /Location Report /to a
certain subset.   See Location Report. To tag a location, click the
checkbox in the Tag column to the right of the desired location name."

Maybe that could be of help to you while preparing for your trip?

You don't say what equipment you'll be taking with you.  Will you be
able to be online with a laptop or something while you're wandering around?

If you can be online, you could use Google Maps to mark the places you
want to visit.  I see you're using Gmail, so you already have access to
the extended features offered in Maps.  Take a look at "My Maps" while
you're logged in - it's very handy for marking places of interest to
you, and retrieving them quickly.

Hope this helps.  :-)

Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping of various cemeteries / locations

[Ron Ferguson]

Denis,

The complexities of doing this are beyond the remit of this list, so I
suggest that you look at my tutorial at http://www.fergys.co.uk/Blogs/GE.php

You may also like to look at a more advanced output using a different, but
much more complicated, technique at
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Ferguson/maps.php (bottom of the page).

If necessary, I will be happy to discuss it with you off-list.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Denis Xenos
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 7:42 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Mapping of various cemeteries / locations

I am planning a road trip. I want to visit some of my Legacy locations
and cemeteries.

I am looking for a way to display (on one map) any group of cemeteries
/ locations listed in my Legacy database. Longitudes and latitudes
have been added to both the Master Location List and the Events
Address List.  I would also like to export the longitudes and
latitudes for various cemeteries / locations so the data can be used
by a GPS.

Any ideas are greatly appreciated

Denis





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[LegacyUG] Mapping of various cemeteries / locations

[Denis Xenos]

I am planning a road trip. I want to visit some of my Legacy locations
and cemeteries.

I am looking for a way to display (on one map) any group of cemeteries
/ locations listed in my Legacy database. Longitudes and latitudes
have been added to both the Master Location List and the Events
Address List.  I would also like to export the longitudes and
latitudes for various cemeteries / locations so the data can be used
by a GPS.

Any ideas are greatly appreciated

Denis



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[LegacyUG] mapping

[Randy Clark]

What might it mean when the map appears but the push pins don't?



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RE: [LegacyUG] Mapping Physical Locations in Legacy (I hijacked the thread to facilitate posting - sorry)

[Jan Roberts]

All right, I give up, all appears to working as it should this morning!

Cheers
Jan
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From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Thursday, 28 January 2010 1:41
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Physical Locations in Legacy (I hijacked the 
thread to facilitate posting - sorry)

Jan,

Are you certain that you are looking at the right source list for the
generation? When you elect the sources at the end of each generation the
numbering of the citations begins at 1 for each generation.

Brian
Customer Support
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Jan Roberts wrote:
> Apologies for hijacking a thread – but my messages to LUG are being
> returned as Unknown recipient.  So trying this way.
>
> Is anyone else having a problem with sources in the Descendant Book
> Report (not Descendant Narrative)?  If I elect to have sources printed
> at the end of each generation and if, for example, the final source
> referenced for that generation is 24 then I get a list of sources from 1
> to 24 even if a number of those sources aren’t referenced in that
> generation AND if somewhere in the middle of the generation source
> number 39 (or any number above 24) is referenced it isn’t listed with
> the sources.
>
> If I elect to have all sources at the end of the report I only get a
> list of the  sources from 1 to the last number referenced for the final
> person in the report.  For example – final person references source
> number 14 as last source, so I get a list of sources from 1 to 14 only.
> Doesn’t matter if I create a PDF report, an HTML report or an ordinary
> Legacy (printer / screen) report.  Strangely a Text or RTF version
> includes all sources at the end of the book.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Jan



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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Physical Locations in Legacy (I hijacked the thread to facilitate posting - sorry)

[Brian/Support]

Jan,

Are you certain that you are looking at the right source list for the
generation? When you elect the sources at the end of each generation the
numbering of the citations begins at 1 for each generation.

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Jan Roberts wrote:
> Apologies for hijacking a thread – but my messages to LUG are being
> returned as Unknown recipient.  So trying this way.
>
> Is anyone else having a problem with sources in the Descendant Book
> Report (not Descendant Narrative)?  If I elect to have sources printed
> at the end of each generation and if, for example, the final source
> referenced for that generation is 24 then I get a list of sources from 1
> to 24 even if a number of those sources aren’t referenced in that
> generation AND if somewhere in the middle of the generation source
> number 39 (or any number above 24) is referenced it isn’t listed with
> the sources.
>
> If I elect to have all sources at the end of the report I only get a
> list of the  sources from 1 to the last number referenced for the final
> person in the report.  For example – final person references source
> number 14 as last source, so I get a list of sources from 1 to 14 only.
> Doesn’t matter if I create a PDF report, an HTML report or an ordinary
> Legacy (printer / screen) report.  Strangely a Text or RTF version
> includes all sources at the end of the book.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Jan



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RE: [LegacyUG] Mapping Physical Locations in Legacy (I hijacked the thread to facilitate posting - sorry)

[Jan Roberts]

Cheers
Jan

-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, 21 January 2010 12:31
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Physical Locations in Legacy (I hijacked the 
thread to facilitate posting - sorry)

Jan,

It is 1-30am here and I am just off to bed but have run one Descendant Book
Report and all worked well. Unfortunately you do not give enough information
for me to be certain that I am replicating your method.

So:

Which Dependant Report are you running - modified Register or Register? - 
Modified Register, but I've tried both with same result
Did you opt to start the Sources after each Generation on a new page? - see 
original message (I did give examples of both)
Does your report include Events? - No
Have you included pictures? - Yes
Did you indent first line, or select a Hanging Indent? - Indent First Line
Did you include page numbers? - Yes
Did you select to repeat duplicate lines? - No
Did you select to merge duplicate citations? - No
Was Print a Biliography also selected? - No

I don't know which, if any of these may effect the outcome though.

One thing you may try, before coming back to us is to use the Reset Button
on the opeing screen and then re-enter your settings.

- have reset all settings - still same result.  Only thing I have noticed is 
that when I elect for sources at end of book / report and I only get 14 sources 
it is NOT governed by last source referenced in report, it just stops at source 
14.
Cheers Jan

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- Original Message -
From: Jan Roberts
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: 21 January 2010 01:09
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Mapping Physical Locations in Legacy (I hijacked the
thread to facilitate posting - sorry)


Apologies for hijacking a thread – but my messages to LUG are being returned
as Unknown recipient.  So trying this way.
Is anyone else having a problem with sources in the Descendant Book Report
(not Descendant Narrative)?  If I elect to have sources printed at the end
of each generation and if, for example, the final source referenced for that
generation is 24 then I get a list of sources from 1 to 24 even if a number
of those sources aren’t referenced in that generation AND if somewhere in
the middle of the generation source number 39 (or any number above 24) is
referenced it isn’t listed with the sources.
If I elect to have all sources at the end of the report I only get a list of
the  sources from 1 to the last number referenced for the final person in
the report.  For example – final person references source number 14 as last
source, so I get a list of sources from 1 to 14 only.  Doesn’t matter if I
create a PDF report, an HTML report or an ordinary Legacy (printer / screen)
report.  Strangely a Text or RTF version includes all sources at the end of
the book.


Cheers
Jan




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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Physical Locations in Legacy (I hijacked the thread to facilitate posting - sorry)

[Ron Ferguson]

Jan,

It is 1-30am here and I am just off to bed but have run one Descendant Book
Report and all worked well. Unfortunately you do not give enough information
for me to be certain that I am replicating your method.

So:

Which Dependant Report are you running - modifed Register or Register?
Did you opt to start the Sources after each Generation on a new page?
Does your report include Events?
Have you included pictures?
Did you indent first line, or select a Hanging Indent?
Did you include page numbers?
Did you select to repeat duplicate lines?
Did you select to merge duplicate citations?
Was Print a Biliography also selected?

I don't know which, if any of these may effect the outcome though.

One thing you may try, before coming back to us is to use the Reset Button
on the opeing screen and then re-enter your settings.

Ron Ferguson
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- Original Message -
From: Jan Roberts
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: 21 January 2010 01:09
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Mapping Physical Locations in Legacy (I hijacked the
thread to facilitate posting - sorry)


Apologies for hijacking a thread – but my messages to LUG are being returned
as Unknown recipient.  So trying this way.
Is anyone else having a problem with sources in the Descendant Book Report
(not Descendant Narrative)?  If I elect to have sources printed at the end
of each generation and if, for example, the final source referenced for that
generation is 24 then I get a list of sources from 1 to 24 even if a number
of those sources aren’t referenced in that generation AND if somewhere in
the middle of the generation source number 39 (or any number above 24) is
referenced it isn’t listed with the sources.
If I elect to have all sources at the end of the report I only get a list of
the  sources from 1 to the last number referenced for the final person in
the report.  For example – final person references source number 14 as last
source, so I get a list of sources from 1 to 14 only.  Doesn’t matter if I
create a PDF report, an HTML report or an ordinary Legacy (printer / screen)
report.  Strangely a Text or RTF version includes all sources at the end of
the book.


Cheers
Jan




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RE: [LegacyUG] Mapping Physical Locations in Legacy (I hijacked the thread to facilitate posting - sorry)

[Jan Roberts]

Apologies for hijacking a thread – but my messages to LUG are being returned as 
Unknown recipient.  So trying this way.

Is anyone else having a problem with sources in the Descendant Book Report (not 
Descendant Narrative)?  If I elect to have sources printed at the end of each 
generation and if, for example, the final source referenced for that generation 
is 24 then I get a list of sources from 1 to 24 even if a number of those 
sources aren’t referenced in that generation AND if somewhere in the middle of 
the generation source number 39 (or any number above 24) is referenced it isn’t 
listed with the sources.

If I elect to have all sources at the end of the report I only get a list of 
the  sources from 1 to the last number referenced for the final person in the 
report.  For example – final person references source number 14 as last source, 
so I get a list of sources from 1 to 14 only.  Doesn’t matter if I create a PDF 
report, an HTML report or an ordinary Legacy (printer / screen) report.  
Strangely a Text or RTF version includes all sources at the end of the book.





Cheers

Jan






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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Physical Locations in Legacy

[Alastair Lack]

Can I perhaps offer another view of Ron's perfectly accurate
description of the British Isles?

The British Isles are a geographical group of islands consisting of
two sovereign nations,

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (U.K.) and
The Republic of Ireland

(Great) Britain is the largest island, and contains the United Kingdom
(countries) of England, Scotland and Wales.
The island of Ireland is mostly the Republic of Ireland, but Northern
Ireland, at its north eastern corner, is part of the UK.

The countries in the U.K. behave pretty much like states in the US,
with increasing amounts of devolution to their assemblies,
The Isle of Man, and the Channel Islands (Jersey, Guernsey, Sark etc)
are largely self governing, and not part of the E.U., nor of the U.K.

Warm regards :-)

Alastair Lack
Salisbury, England



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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Physical Locations in Legacy

[brittongen]

Oops... Go to Google Maps, find a place of interest, LEFT click a spot...

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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Physical Locations in Legacy

[brittongen]

Legacy is a bit behind the curve on this - an observation, not a criticism - 
and perhaps it's time to be proactive.   We do have to work now with what we 
have now, but our genealogies and family histories will be read in the future.  
Durable information should certainly be in standard and durable form, but only 
when practicable.  Often it will be best to separate the standard from the 
durable and go both ways. Coercing an address into a "best fit" in 4 fields 
makes good use of present software, balances the irritation of double commas 
against that of often empty fields and discarded information, while providing 
tractable data for search and print routines.  Where an address needs 
preservation in another format, the answer is a note field of some sort.  But 
what is the future?  Addresses are impermanent unless as historical records.  
For most purposes, we can now specify a location in forms which will not 
change, and with more precision.

Go to Google Maps, find a place of interest, right click a spot and click 
"What's Here?" in the resulting drop down menu.  The location of the pin in the 
map or satellite view is then at your left and/or in the map location box 
above.  I was born at 52.327044,-2.292482. Entering that gets the right spot, 
accurate to the location of the bed, though the house, attached cottages and 
forge were demolished and replaced a few years ago.  Still, the modern location 
gives a ready index to earlier satellite shots, plans and maps, to where our 
garden ended at 52.326932,-2.290433, and to the location of the garden path my 
grandfather ran up while being machine gunned by the German bomber which left 
the bullet hole in the forge door.  52.702593,-3.911324 is (probably) the 
boulder cave where I spent a memorable mountain thunderstorm night on Cader 
Idris and 53.008396,-4.147801 marks Ogof Owain Glyndwr, the one on the cliff 
face where I also slept, albeit lightly.  Perhaps no descendant of mine will 
wish to follow me, but the possibilities should be obvious to a family 
historian.

Legacy Geo Locations were invaluable for names, distances and directions to 
nearby parishes and other places to search when I was really struggling to find 
ancestors.  As noted by someone else, they also (occasionally) gave locations 
to defunct place names.  Geo database users were requested to contribute names 
and locations.  That could be a major service to genealogists and historians, 
forming a very efficient database if reduced to just the name and coordinates.  
I have used IGI data and parish locations to plot name spread against time in 
very informative graphics.  There are other uses.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Physical Locations in Legacy

[saludevil]

Thank you, Ron!  Once again your blog website has been very  informative.
I'm wondering what actually happens if you only put in three  place names.

I see you live in Manchester.  That's where most of my Hindleys are  from. 
Now on to Germanyis the place name format similar to  England's?

Sally Miller Hindley

In a message dated 1/18/2010 11:37:56 AM  Eastern Standard Time,
ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk writes:
Dermot,

I am  sure that Mike's attribution of pre 1919 Ireland to England was a
slip
of  the keyboard, but it certainly illustrates why accurate recording of
our
correct Locations is essential and why the 4 field convention is quite
unsuitable for Irish purposes as well as those of the consitituent
countries
of the United Kingdom.

To quote from one of my Blogs on UK Locations
(http://ronfergy.blogspot.com/2009/11/location-location-location-and-uk.html
)
to use this convention is like trying to get a square peg in a round  hole.

Ron Ferguson




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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Physical Locations in Legacy

[Ron Ferguson]

Dermot,

I am sure that Mike's attribution of pre 1919 Ireland to England was a slip
of the keyboard, but it certainly illustrates why accurate recording of our
correct Locations is essential and why the 4 field convention is quite
unsuitable for Irish purposes as well as those of the consitituent countries
of the United Kingdom.

To quote from one of my Blogs on UK Locations
(http://ronfergy.blogspot.com/2009/11/location-location-location-and-uk.html)
to use this convention is like trying to get a square peg in a round hole.

Ron Ferguson
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D MG wrote:
> Mike,
>
> (*Tongue firmly in my cheek*) Now you've got me going!!! (*Removes
> tongue from cheek*)
>
> Ireland is not and has never, NEVER been part of England.  Ireland is
> an island to the west of the larger island/land mass known as Great
> Britain (GB).  This island of Ireland is split into two parts, one
> being the country of Ireland (commonly known as the Republic of
> Ireland) and the other, smaller part in the North East of the island,
> known as Northern Ireland.  Northern Ireland is part of the United
> Kingdom (UK) of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
>
> Under the Act of Union of 1800, Ireland was part of this Union until
> 1919, when a war of independence was fought with the British Forces.
>
> I won't go into too much further detail, but suffice it to say that
> while Ireland may have been part of the United Kingdom of Great
> Britain and Ireland, and part of the island is still part of this
> Union, It was never part of England, which is a completely separate
> part of the land mass of GB.
>
> Confused yet?  Imagine trying to live here! ;-)
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Dermot.
>
>
> 2010/1/18 Mike Fry :
>> On 2010/01/18 02:57, John S. Adams wrote:
>>
>>> To put your somewhat yankophobe mind at ease, if it were
>>> Americanized, it would be "Durham County." It seems to me more like
>>> Irishization (or Irishisation, if you prefer).
>>
>> Of course! Small apology :-) I'd forgotten that Ireland was once
>> part of England (what's the smilie for tongue-in-cheek)!
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Mike Fry
>> Johannesburg
>>




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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Physical Locations in Legacy

[D MG]

Mike,

(*Tongue firmly in my cheek*) Now you've got me going!!! (*Removes
tongue from cheek*)

Ireland is not and has never, NEVER been part of England.  Ireland is
an island to the west of the larger island/land mass known as Great
Britain (GB).  This island of Ireland is split into two parts, one
being the country of Ireland (commonly known as the Republic of
Ireland) and the other, smaller part in the North East of the island,
known as Northern Ireland.  Northern Ireland is part of the United
Kingdom (UK) of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Under the Act of Union of 1800, Ireland was part of this Union until
1919, when a war of independence was fought with the British Forces.

I won't go into too much further detail, but suffice it to say that
while Ireland may have been part of the United Kingdom of Great
Britain and Ireland, and part of the island is still part of this
Union, It was never part of England, which is a completely separate
part of the land mass of GB.

Confused yet?  Imagine trying to live here! ;-)


Regards,

Dermot.

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2010/1/18 Mike Fry :
> On 2010/01/18 02:57, John S. Adams wrote:
>
>> To put your somewhat yankophobe mind at ease, if it were Americanized, it
>> would be "Durham County."  It seems to me more like Irishization (or
>> Irishisation, if you prefer).
>
> Of course! Small apology :-) I'd forgotten that Ireland was once part of
> England (what's the smilie for tongue-in-cheek)!
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mike Fry
> Johannesburg
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Physical Locations in Legacy

[Bill Wood]

Thanks Ron,

You are absolutely correct. I used a poor example.

The important thing to understand from my previous message is that this
alternative way to enter place names will also cater for specific addresses.
According to the training videos, Legacy designed this screen for the entry
of addresses as opposed to place names.

Yes I should have added England to the end of the Address.


Regards


Bill

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:

> Bill,
>
> I would like to make two comments on your example 1) The country should
> always be included in a location, which is where you are adding the data
> you
> quote: Freds Farm, Bludgers Road, Tadworth, Leicestershire, 553 EX2,
> England.
>
> 2) It is standard to enter locations as they were at the time of the Event,
> and it is only in recent years that the Post Code (Zip) has been
> incorporated into Post Office addresses. In most circumstances, therefore,
> it would be incorrect to include it.
>
> Ron Ferguson
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Physical Locations in Legacy

[Ron Ferguson]

Bill,

I would like to make two comments on your example 1) The country should
always be included in a location, which is where you are adding the data you
quote: Freds Farm, Bludgers Road, Tadworth, Leicestershire, 553 EX2,
England.

2) It is standard to enter locations as they were at the time of the Event,
and it is only in recent years that the Post Code (Zip) has been
incorporated into Post Office addresses. In most circumstances, therefore,
it would be incorrect to include it.

Ron Ferguson


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From: Bill Wood
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: 18 January 2010 06:47
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Physical Locations in Legacy


Sandy,

I believe the correct way to do this would be to hit the little plus sign at
the extreme right hand edge of the line where you are trying to enter the
data.

This then allows you to enter the address in any format you like and add
notes.

This is useful for recording things like street addresses and names of farms
ie Freds Farm, Bludgers Road, Tadworth, Leicestershire, 553 EX2

If you are not concerned about the mapping and associated database
functionality then what I have suggested above should work for you.

However other parts of the Legacy software may not be able to "see" and
interpret that address correctly.

The mapping software and database reports seem to rely upon the previously
discussed 4 field data format.

I can send you a PM with screenshots to show you what I am talking about
above - or if you have the training CDs look at the one about Place Names.

Regards

Bill


On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:45 AM,  wrote:



I've been struggling with this myself.  What is the correct way to  write
an address in England?  For instance, in one of my files I have..
Stanhope, Bishop Auckland, County Durham, UK
How would this be written correctly?

Thank you for any help,
Sally Miller Hindley









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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Physical Locations in Legacy

[Mike Fry]

On 2010/01/18 02:57, John S. Adams wrote:

> To put your somewhat yankophobe mind at ease, if it were Americanized, it
> would be "Durham County."  It seems to me more like Irishization (or
> Irishisation, if you prefer).

Of course! Small apology :-) I'd forgotten that Ireland was once part of
England (what's the smilie for tongue-in-cheek)!

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Physical Locations in Legacy

[Bill Wood]

Thankyou Everybody for your comments,

I have raised this issue with the Legacy Technical support team, and am
expecting a reply within a few days.

If there is a database somewhere that allows lookup of Technical SUpport
then you should be able to check progress or workarounds on this ticket
number [2DB-12E550AB-F888].

Meanwhile using the little blue plus sign discussed in my other post today
may assist some of us in recording long awkward and unusual addresses that
dont fit the 4 field format used by Legacy.


Regards

Bill


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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Physical Locations in Legacy

[Bill Wood]

Sandy,

I believe the correct way to do this would be to hit the little plus sign at
the extreme right hand edge of the line where you are trying to enter the
data.

This then allows you to enter the address in any format you like and add
notes.

This is useful for recording things like street addresses and names of farms
ie Freds Farm, Bludgers Road, Tadworth, Leicestershire, 553 EX2

If you are not concerned about the mapping and associated database
functionality then what I have suggested above should work for you.

However other parts of the Legacy software may not be able to "see" and
interpret that address correctly.

The mapping software and database reports seem to rely upon the previously
discussed 4 field data format.

I can send you a PM with screenshots to show you what I am talking about
above - or if you have the training CDs look at the one about Place Names.

Regards

Bill

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:45 AM,  wrote:

>
>
> I've been struggling with this myself.  What is the correct way to  write
> an address in England?  For instance, in one of my files I have..
> Stanhope, Bishop Auckland, County Durham, UK
> How would this be written correctly?
>
> Thank you for any help,
> Sally Miller Hindley
>
>
>
>
>



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