Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
Thanks for the tip, Don. I have a lot of Canadian family. > > From: Don Brown >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:14 AM >Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? > > >AniMap is completely useless for Canada. They only have a handful of counties >in Ontario and have no intention of adding more Canadian data. I got this >information from Mark Lassagne at AniMap. > >Don Brown >Orangeville, Ontario, Canada > >From:Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com] >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:06 PM >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? > >I looked it up and found out that Legacy store sells it. Expensive, but it >really looks helpful! > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
AniMap is completely useless for Canada. They only have a handful of counties in Ontario and have no intention of adding more Canadian data. I got this information from Mark Lassagne at AniMap. Don Brown Orangeville, Ontario, Canada From: Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:06 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? I looked it up and found out that Legacy store sells it. Expensive, but it really looks helpful! Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
I looked it up and found out that Legacy store sells it. Expensive, but it really looks helpful! > > From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:42 AM >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? > > >I have done it, using Animap for dates and data. Makes good reports. > > >From: Marg Strong >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:14 AM >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? > > > >Thank you for the responses. Someone mentined a timeline and that would make >it so much easier to find the location information rather than have to look it >up for each instance (reinventing the wheel). I know there is a timeline >feature on Legacy, but that is likely for the people and dates that I've >already entered. > >How do you create a timeline? I have no idea how to use a spreadsheet. I've >created simple (immediate) family timelines with a word processor but that >wouldn't work for this since it much more complicated. Would you use tables? >Is there a program I could try? > >When I know how to create a timeline, I can collect the boundary changes for >different places at different times and they would be accessible at a glance. >Suggestions would be welcome! >Peggy > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
I have done it, using Animap for dates and data. Makes good reports. From: Marg Strong To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? Thank you for the responses. Someone mentined a timeline and that would make it so much easier to find the location information rather than have to look it up for each instance (reinventing the wheel). I know there is a timeline feature on Legacy, but that is likely for the people and dates that I've already entered. How do you create a timeline? I have no idea how to use a spreadsheet. I've created simple (immediate) family timelines with a word processor but that wouldn't work for this since it much more complicated. Would you use tables? Is there a program I could try? When I know how to create a timeline, I can collect the boundary changes for different places at different times and they would be accessible at a glance. Suggestions would be welcome! Peggy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
To create my timelines I have added the organizing dates for all MY US counties where someone lived. Then I can have the list of all counties my family member lived or had new counties created around. This helps understand the era. From: Marg Strong To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? Thank you for the responses. Someone mentined a timeline and that would make it so much easier to find the location information rather than have to look it up for each instance (reinventing the wheel). I know there is a timeline feature on Legacy, but that is likely for the people and dates that I've already entered. How do you create a timeline? I have no idea how to use a spreadsheet. I've created simple (immediate) family timelines with a word processor but that wouldn't work for this since it much more complicated. Would you use tables? Is there a program I could try? When I know how to create a timeline, I can collect the boundary changes for different places at different times and they would be accessible at a glance. Suggestions would be welcome! Peggy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
Thanks, Tessa. My problem is I have so many things to do right now. The main thing, which I've neglected the past few days, is to do as much research on ancestry.com as I can before my six months subscription is finished. I've given up on incorporating it into Legacy until I'm finished and can clean up their gedcom. I do have the source detail information in FTM since it syncs with my online program, so I will be able to cut and paste even after my subscription is up. Thank you for the idea to put the info in a word processing document first and use highlighting. That will save some work. I wish I could skip sleep. I so much want to get into what you are talking about and do more with Legacy. Have to force myself now to take one step at a time. I have a folder where I am saving extra helpful messages and I will file this in there to refresh my memory when I can start having fun with all I've collected on Ancestry. > > From: Tessa >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 3:28 PM >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? > > >Sherry's response is great - and as with many things in Legacy I would suggest >you just open it up and play with it. > > >Step 1 - See what is in the timelines already. >Step 2 - Open up a rather simple timeline in Legacy to see how it was done - >suggestion here is the federal census for USA. >Step 3 - Try making a timeline of your own - Why and/or How? > > >I have made timelines for states I am interested in and family lived in at >some time (Missouri, Nebraska, Oregon, Washington), as well as countries >(Ireland, Newfoundland/Canada, Sweden, Norway and Slovenia) because these >places are where my people (to date) are from. Start simple (you can always >add to your timeline). I suggest a three prong approach - (1) take a look at >the timelines in FamilySearch.org country and state summaries, (2) take a look >at Wikipedia, and (3) take a look at the Archives or Historical Society for >any countries and states you are interested in. > > >Put all the information you find (copy/paste and source it) in a word >processing document and then go through it and highlight the sections you want >to add to your timeline and perhaps write it up in a way that appeals to you. >Remember that your "entry" is short - the date and the fact. The description >and notes section can discuss in greater detail and provide the source. > > >Create a timeline, add a few entries, save it, see how it looks and then add >to it as time and interest permit. Remember to source each entry (so you know >where you got it - do it right there in notes) and make sure your "entry" is >short and sweet and put your discussion in the notes section. > > >Then play around - run a chronology report with a timeline in it - for my >family in Newfoundland - I have when the censuses took place, when women got >the vote, when confederation occurred (reminds me to look to Canada after that >and Great Britain before), when various political factions were in power, what >the industries were and when they faltered (cod), emigration routes and >time-frames. You get the idea. The timelines are also a really nice way to >incorporate some of your location research. As with so many things - play >around with it, see how it reads, tweak it, and then use it! > > >On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Marg Strong wrote: > >Sherry, thank you so much. I should have known Legacy would have something to >help with this! >> >> >> >>> >>> From: Sherry/Support >>>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >>>Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 1:31 PM >>>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? >>> >>> >>>Peggy, >>> >>>To create a timeline in Legacy, go to View > Timelines and click on >>>"New". Enter your description, then a name for the timeline and >>>proceed with entering your data in the form provided. >>> >>>If you need more details, you'll find it in the Help file in Legacy >>>under Timeline: Creating or by clicking on the Help button in the >>>Timelines window. >>> >>> >>> >>>Sincerely, >>>Sherry >>>Technical Support >>>Legacy Family Tree >>> >>> >>>On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Marg Strong wrote: >>>> >>>> Thank you for the responses. Someone mentined a timeline and that would >>>> make >>>> it so much easier to find the location inform
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
Sherry's response is great - and as with many things in Legacy I would suggest you just open it up and play with it. Step 1 - See what is in the timelines already. Step 2 - Open up a rather simple timeline in Legacy to see how it was done - suggestion here is the federal census for USA. Step 3 - Try making a timeline of your own - Why and/or How? I have made timelines for states I am interested in and family lived in at some time (Missouri, Nebraska, Oregon, Washington), as well as countries (Ireland, Newfoundland/Canada, Sweden, Norway and Slovenia) because these places are where my people (to date) are from. Start simple (you can always add to your timeline). I suggest a three prong approach - (1) take a look at the timelines in FamilySearch.org country and state summaries, (2) take a look at Wikipedia, and (3) take a look at the Archives or Historical Society for any countries and states you are interested in. Put all the information you find (copy/paste and source it) in a word processing document and then go through it and highlight the sections you want to add to your timeline and perhaps write it up in a way that appeals to you. Remember that your "entry" is short - the date and the fact. The description and notes section can discuss in greater detail and provide the source. Create a timeline, add a few entries, save it, see how it looks and then add to it as time and interest permit. Remember to source each entry (so you know where you got it - do it right there in notes) and make sure your "entry" is short and sweet and put your discussion in the notes section. Then play around - run a chronology report with a timeline in it - for my family in Newfoundland - I have when the censuses took place, when women got the vote, when confederation occurred (reminds me to look to Canada after that and Great Britain before), when various political factions were in power, what the industries were and when they faltered (cod), emigration routes and time-frames. You get the idea. The timelines are also a really nice way to incorporate some of your location research. As with so many things - play around with it, see how it reads, tweak it, and then use it! On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Marg Strong wrote: > Sherry, thank you so much. I should have known Legacy would have something > to help with this! > > -- > *From:* Sherry/Support > *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2012 1:31 PM > *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing > boundaries? > > Peggy, > > To create a timeline in Legacy, go to View > Timelines and click on > "New". Enter your description, then a name for the timeline and > proceed with entering your data in the form provided. > > If you need more details, you'll find it in the Help file in Legacy > under Timeline: Creating or by clicking on the Help button in the > Timelines window. > > > > Sincerely, > Sherry > Technical Support > Legacy Family Tree > > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Marg Strong wrote: > > > > Thank you for the responses. Someone mentined a timeline and that would > make > > it so much easier to find the location information rather than have to > look > > it up for each instance (reinventing the wheel). I know there is a > timeline > > feature on Legacy, but that is likely for the people and dates that I've > > already entered. > > > > How do you create a timeline? I have no idea how to use a spreadsheet. > I've > > created simple (immediate) family timelines with a word processor but > that > > wouldn't work for this since it much more complicated. Would you use > tables? > > Is there a program I could try? > > > > When I know how to create a timeline, I can collect the boundary changes > for > > different places at different times and they would be accessible at a > > glance. Suggestions would be welcome! > > Peggy > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and > on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.c
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
Sherry, thank you so much. I should have known Legacy would have something to help with this! > > From: Sherry/Support >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 1:31 PM >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? > >Peggy, > >To create a timeline in Legacy, go to View > Timelines and click on >"New". Enter your description, then a name for the timeline and >proceed with entering your data in the form provided. > >If you need more details, you'll find it in the Help file in Legacy >under Timeline: Creating or by clicking on the Help button in the >Timelines window. > > > >Sincerely, >Sherry >Technical Support >Legacy Family Tree > > >On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Marg Strong wrote: >> >> Thank you for the responses. Someone mentined a timeline and that would make >> it so much easier to find the location information rather than have to look >> it up for each instance (reinventing the wheel). I know there is a timeline >> feature on Legacy, but that is likely for the people and dates that I've >> already entered. >> >> How do you create a timeline? I have no idea how to use a spreadsheet. I've >> created simple (immediate) family timelines with a word processor but that >> wouldn't work for this since it much more complicated. Would you use tables? >> Is there a program I could try? >> >> When I know how to create a timeline, I can collect the boundary changes for >> different places at different times and they would be accessible at a >> glance. Suggestions would be welcome! >> Peggy > > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
Peggy, To create a timeline in Legacy, go to View > Timelines and click on "New". Enter your description, then a name for the timeline and proceed with entering your data in the form provided. If you need more details, you'll find it in the Help file in Legacy under Timeline: Creating or by clicking on the Help button in the Timelines window. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Marg Strong wrote: > > Thank you for the responses. Someone mentined a timeline and that would make > it so much easier to find the location information rather than have to look > it up for each instance (reinventing the wheel). I know there is a timeline > feature on Legacy, but that is likely for the people and dates that I've > already entered. > > How do you create a timeline? I have no idea how to use a spreadsheet. I've > created simple (immediate) family timelines with a word processor but that > wouldn't work for this since it much more complicated. Would you use tables? > Is there a program I could try? > > When I know how to create a timeline, I can collect the boundary changes for > different places at different times and they would be accessible at a > glance. Suggestions would be welcome! > Peggy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
Thank you for the responses. Someone mentined a timeline and that would make it so much easier to find the location information rather than have to look it up for each instance (reinventing the wheel). I know there is a timeline feature on Legacy, but that is likely for the people and dates that I've already entered. How do you create a timeline? I have no idea how to use a spreadsheet. I've created simple (immediate) family timelines with a word processor but that wouldn't work for this since it much more complicated. Would you use tables? Is there a program I could try? When I know how to create a timeline, I can collect the boundary changes for different places at different times and they would be accessible at a glance. Suggestions would be welcome! Peggy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
Marg, Actually, I prefer it that way. Imagine how difficult it would be to find records if they were all listed on Ancestry.com under the jurisdiction when the event took place. Some of my places are listed 4 or 5 different ways in my location list because of how they were known through the years. This is just another good reason why we need to study the history too. Mary Marg Strong wrote: > Well that would make it more difficult. Shame on them. > > > > From: M. Brenzel > >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com > >Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:51 PM > >Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? > > > > > >I believe that Ancestry.com uses locations as they are in the present. > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
Thanks for your help, Russ. Nick. - Original Message - From: R G Strong-genes To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? I agree, I edit my locations to be what they were at the time of the event. Russ From: M. Brenzel Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:51 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? I believe that Ancestry.com uses locations as they are in the present. From: Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:23 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? I am wondering from your note, Mary, if the location in the source and source detail on ancestry.com use the place it would have been or is now? If they haven't used the original location it will make it all that much more difficult. -- From: M. Brenzel To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:56 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? Brian, Canada locations are the next ones for me to straighten out and name properly as they were when the events happened. What a confusing history that area has! I believe that the 2 colonies before 1841 that you referred to were Upper Canada and Lower Canada. Mary -Original Message- From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? Peggy, Canada West and Canada East were the names used in Colonial Canada from about 1841 until Confederation in 1867 when the separate Colonies of Canada, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island combined into modern Canada. Before 1841 there were two separate colonies (do not remember what they were called). In 1841 the French and English colonies were combined into one colony called Canada. Canada West was the name given to the English colony in what is now the province of Ontario, Canada East was the former French Colony in what is now the Province of Quebec. The province of Ontario is divided into counties for local government purposes and the Grey you mention is one of the counties. It has now been combined and the present county is called Grey and Simcoe. The area is North of the City of Toronto. Not sure when Grey North existed, if it ever did as a separate county. Within the counties are smaller subdivisions called townships perhaps Grey North is a township name. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
I agree, I edit my locations to be what they were at the time of the event. Russ From: M. Brenzel Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:51 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? I believe that Ancestry.com uses locations as they are in the present. From: Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:23 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? I am wondering from your note, Mary, if the location in the source and source detail on ancestry.com use the place it would have been or is now? If they haven't used the original location it will make it all that much more difficult. -- From: M. Brenzel To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:56 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? Brian, Canada locations are the next ones for me to straighten out and name properly as they were when the events happened. What a confusing history that area has! I believe that the 2 colonies before 1841 that you referred to were Upper Canada and Lower Canada. Mary -Original Message- From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? Peggy, Canada West and Canada East were the names used in Colonial Canada from about 1841 until Confederation in 1867 when the separate Colonies of Canada, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island combined into modern Canada. Before 1841 there were two separate colonies (do not remember what they were called). In 1841 the French and English colonies were combined into one colony called Canada. Canada West was the name given to the English colony in what is now the province of Ontario, Canada East was the former French Colony in what is now the Province of Quebec. The province of Ontario is divided into counties for local government purposes and the Grey you mention is one of the counties. It has now been combined and the present county is called Grey and Simcoe. The area is North of the City of Toronto. Not sure when Grey North existed, if it ever did as a separate county. Within the counties are smaller subdivisions called townships perhaps Grey North is a township name. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
Marg,
I put it under the notes in the Master Location list. On a report if you print
the location index then it will print the notes that are added to locations.
Russ
From: Marg Strong
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:20 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
Russ, I like that. Do you put it under the notes in the Master Location list,
or the event list? How would you work a report so it only prints out once, or
do you?
Thank you.
--
From: R G Strong-genes
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
Marg,
Depending on the time frame I have locations that are Upper and Lower Canada,
Canada West and Canada East. For those locations I also edit the place location
and put the time frame that it was with that name and I include the following
explanation:
1841-1867
In 1791 the Constitution Act divided Quebec (the former New France) into
Upper and Lower Canada. Each had its own legislature and its own unique civil
law codes and rules of land tenure. Upper Canada was largely English-speaking
and Lower Canada was almost entirely French-speaking. In 1841 the Act of Union
united Upper and Lower Canada as the Province of Canada with two halves --
Canada West and Canada East -- collectively known as "The Canadas."
Then in 1867 the British North American Act created the Dominion of Canada
and Canada East and Canada West became separate provinces known as Quebec and
Ontario. Also that year the Province of Canada, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick
agreed to join together. These dates are important to family historians because
references to Upper and Lower Canada indicate a date before 1841; references to
Canada West and Canada East means sometime between 1841 and 1867, and any
reference to Ontario implies a time after 1867. When someone born before 1867
told an American census taker that they were "born in Canada" they usually
meant Ontario, but might mean Quebec.
Russ Strong
From: Marg Strong
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:42 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
Thanks, Don. I found that on a webpage today and understand it better. I just
don't know if I enter my source locations as Canada West, etc. Or just Canada.
From: Don Brown
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 5:37 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
Marg
See below from a book I have with Ontario counties:
Canada West was established in 1841. Prior to this time it was known as
Upper Canada. In 1867 Canada West became Ontario.
Don Brown
Orangeville, Ontario, Canada
From: Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:30 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
I've been confused because some records use, Canada West, or for County
they use Grey, Grey North, Grey (north/norde). I did look up the history to
find out more about where "Canada West" came from.
My question is for those who have Ontario records to source. Do you use
Canada West for the country? Would you just use "Grey" to keep it standardized,
or would you use what the census uses, however it comes out?
Often on the census it goes by district rather than county which could be
different. It also often gives the township. I'm wondering how Legacy users
enter these different results into their Master Location list.
Thank you for any help!
Peggy
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All of the different programs including Legacy uses “Today’s” places for locations. It is really the “Mapping” companies that the OEM’s have subcontracted to, but that is why one should never accept that the locations within these programs to “Be Gospel” , as they are even changing today. Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. http://www.SchmeckAbernathy.com <http://www.schmeckabernathy.com/> == All outgoing and incoming mail is scanned by F-Prot Antivirus == From: Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:21 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? Well that would make it more difficult. Shame on them. _ From: M. Brenzel To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:51 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? I believe that Ancestry.com uses locations as they are in the present. From: Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:23 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? I am wondering from your note, Mary, if the location in the source and source detail on ancestry.com use the place it would have been or is now? If they haven't used the original location it will make it all that much more difficult. _ From: M. Brenzel To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:56 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? Brian, Canada locations are the next ones for me to straighten out and name properly as they were when the events happened. What a confusing history that area has! I believe that the 2 colonies before 1841 that you referred to were Upper Canada and Lower Canada. Mary -Original Message- From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? Peggy, Canada West and Canada East were the names used in Colonial Canada from about 1841 until Confederation in 1867 when the separate Colonies of Canada, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island combined into modern Canada. Before 1841 there were two separate colonies (do not remember what they were called). In 1841 the French and English colonies were combined into one colony called Canada. Canada West was the name given to the English colony in what is now the province of Ontario, Canada East was the former French Colony in what is now the Province of Quebec. The province of Ontario is divided into counties for local government purposes and the Grey you mention is one of the counties. It has now been combined and the present county is called Grey and Simcoe. The area is North of the City of Toronto. Not sure when Grey North existed, if it ever did as a separate county. Within the counties are smaller subdivisions called townships perhaps Grey North is a township name. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.f
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Well that would make it more difficult. Shame on them. > > From: M. Brenzel >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:51 PM >Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? > > >I believe that Ancestry.com uses locations as they are in the present. > >From:Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com] >Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:23 PM >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? > >I am wondering from your note, Mary, if the location in the source and source >detail on ancestry.com use the place it would have been or is now? If they >haven't used the original location it will make it all that much more >difficult. > >> >> >> >>From:M. Brenzel >>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >>Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:56 PM >>Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? >> >>Brian, >> >>Canada locations are the next ones for me to straighten out and name properly >>as they were when the events happened. What a confusing history that area >>has! >> >>I believe that the 2 colonies before 1841 that you referred to were Upper >>Canada and Lower Canada. >> >>Mary >> >>-Original Message----- >>From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com] >>Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:09 PM >>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? >> >>Peggy, >> >>Canada West and Canada East were the names used in Colonial Canada from about >>1841 until Confederation in 1867 when the separate Colonies of Canada, Nova >>Scotia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island combined into modern Canada. >>Before 1841 there were two separate colonies (do not remember what they were >>called). In 1841 the French and English colonies were combined into one >>colony called Canada. Canada West was the name given to the English colony in >>what is now the province of Ontario, Canada East was the former French Colony >>in what is now the Province of Quebec. >> >>The province of Ontario is divided into counties for local government >>purposes and the Grey you mention is one of the counties. It has now been >>combined and the present county is called Grey and Simcoe. The area is North >>of the City of Toronto. Not sure when Grey North existed, if it ever did as a >>separate county. Within the counties are smaller subdivisions called >>townships perhaps Grey North is a township name. >> >>Brian >>Customer Support >>Millennia Corporation >>br...@legacyfamilytree.com >>http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Legacy User Group guidelines: >>http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >>Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >>http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >>Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >>http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >>Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >>Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >>our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >>To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> >> >> >> > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > >Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.c
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I believe that Ancestry.com uses locations as they are in the present. From: Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:23 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? I am wondering from your note, Mary, if the location in the source and source detail on ancestry.com use the place it would have been or is now? If they haven't used the original location it will make it all that much more difficult. _ From: M. Brenzel To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:56 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? Brian, Canada locations are the next ones for me to straighten out and name properly as they were when the events happened. What a confusing history that area has! I believe that the 2 colonies before 1841 that you referred to were Upper Canada and Lower Canada. Mary -Original Message- From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? Peggy, Canada West and Canada East were the names used in Colonial Canada from about 1841 until Confederation in 1867 when the separate Colonies of Canada, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island combined into modern Canada. Before 1841 there were two separate colonies (do not remember what they were called). In 1841 the French and English colonies were combined into one colony called Canada. Canada West was the name given to the English colony in what is now the province of Ontario, Canada East was the former French Colony in what is now the Province of Quebec. The province of Ontario is divided into counties for local government purposes and the Grey you mention is one of the counties. It has now been combined and the present county is called Grey and Simcoe. The area is North of the City of Toronto. Not sure when Grey North existed, if it ever did as a separate county. Within the counties are smaller subdivisions called townships perhaps Grey North is a township name. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
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I am wondering from your note, Mary, if the location in the source and source detail on ancestry.com use the place it would have been or is now? If they haven't used the original location it will make it all that much more difficult. > > From: M. Brenzel >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:56 PM >Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? > >Brian, > >Canada locations are the next ones for me to straighten out and name properly >as they were when the events happened. What a confusing history that area has! > >I believe that the 2 colonies before 1841 that you referred to were Upper >Canada and Lower Canada. > >Mary > >-Original Message- >From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com] >Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:09 PM >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? > >Peggy, > >Canada West and Canada East were the names used in Colonial Canada from about >1841 until Confederation in 1867 when the separate Colonies of Canada, Nova >Scotia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island combined into modern Canada. >Before 1841 there were two separate colonies (do not remember what they were >called). In 1841 the French and English colonies were combined into one colony >called Canada. Canada West was the name given to the English colony in what is >now the province of Ontario, Canada East was the former French Colony in what >is now the Province of Quebec. > >The province of Ontario is divided into counties for local government purposes >and the Grey you mention is one of the counties. It has now been combined and >the present county is called Grey and Simcoe. The area is North of the City of >Toronto. Not sure when Grey North existed, if it ever did as a separate >county. Within the counties are smaller subdivisions called townships perhaps >Grey North is a township name. > >Brian >Customer Support >Millennia Corporation >br...@legacyfamilytree.com >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > > > > > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
Russ, I like that. Do you put it under the notes in the Master Location list, or the event list? How would you work a report so it only prints out once, or do you? Thank you. > > From: R G Strong-genes >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:54 PM >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? > > >Marg, >Depending on the time frame I have locations that are Upper and Lower Canada, Canada West and Canada East. For those locations I also edit the place location and put the time frame that it was with that name and I include the following explanation: > >1841-1867 >In 1791 the Constitution Act divided Quebec (the former New France) into Upper and Lower Canada. Each had its own legislature and its own unique civil law codes and rules of land tenure. Upper Canada was largely English-speaking and Lower Canada was almost entirely French-speaking. In 1841 the Act of Union united Upper and Lower Canada as the Province of Canada with two halves -- Canada West and Canada East -- collectively known as "The Canadas." > >Then in 1867 the British North American Act created the Dominion of Canada and Canada East and Canada West became separate provinces known as Quebec and Ontario. Also that year the Province of Canada, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick agreed to join together. These dates are important to family historians because references to Upper and Lower Canada indicate a date before 1841; references to Canada West and Canada East means sometime between 1841 and 1867, and any reference to Ontario implies a time after 1867. When someone born before 1867 told an American census taker that they were "born in Canada" they usually meant Ontario, but might mean Quebec. > > >Russ Strong >From: Marg Strong >Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:42 PM >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? > Thanks, Don. I found that on a webpage today and understand it better. I just don't know if I enter my source locations as Canada West, etc. Or just Canada. > > > > >> >> From: Don Brown >>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >>Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 5:37 PM >>Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? >> >> >> >>Marg >>See below from a book I have with Ontario counties: >> >>Canada West was established in 1841. Prior to this time it was known as Upper >>Canada. In 1867 Canada West became Ontario. >> >> >>Don Brown >>Orangeville, Ontario, Canada >> >>From:Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com] >>Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:30 PM >>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >>Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? >> >>I've been confused because some records use, Canada West, or for County they >>use Grey, Grey North, Grey (north/norde). I did look up the history to find >>out more about where "Canada West" came from. >> >>My question is for those who have Ontario records to source. Do you use >>Canada West for the country? Would you just use "Grey" to keep it >>standardized, or would you use what the census uses, however it comes out? >> >>Often on the census it goes by district rather than county which could be >>different. It also often gives the township. I'm wondering how Legacy users >>enter these different results into their Master Location list. >> >>Thank you for any help! >>Peggy >> >>(snip) >> > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
I think Don was correct in saying that Grey North was a district. It makes sense. To me, Canada is the country. But if it was Canada West or East when the census was taken, would that be what I would enter in the country field? > > From: Brian/Support >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:09 PM >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? > >Peggy, > >Canada West and Canada East were the names used in Colonial Canada from >about 1841 until Confederation in 1867 when the separate Colonies of >Canada, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island combined >into modern Canada. Before 1841 there were two separate colonies (do not >remember what they were called). In 1841 the French and English colonies >were combined into one colony called Canada. Canada West was the name >given to the English colony in what is now the province of Ontario, >Canada East was the former French Colony in what is now the Province of >Quebec. > >The province of Ontario is divided into counties for local government >purposes and the Grey you mention is one of the counties. It has now >been combined and the present county is called Grey and Simcoe. The area >is North of the City of Toronto. Not sure when Grey North existed, if it >ever did as a separate county. Within the counties are smaller >subdivisions called townships perhaps Grey North is a township name. > >Brian >Customer Support >Millennia Corporation >br...@legacyfamilytree.com >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > >We are changing the world of genealogy! >When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. >Thanks. > >On 22/04/2012 4:29 PM, Marg Strong wrote: >> I've been confused because some records use, Canada West, or for County they >> use Grey, Grey North, Grey (north/norde). I did look up the history to find >> out more about where "Canada West" came from. >> >> My question is for those who have Ontario records to source. Do you use >> Canada West for the country? Would you just use "Grey" to keep it >> standardized, or would you use what the census uses, however it comes out? >> >> Often on the census it goes by district rather than county which could be >> different. It also often gives the township. I'm wondering how Legacy users >> enter these different results into their Master Location list. >> >> Thank you for any help! >> Peggy > > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
That makes sense. I knew that the census places were often districts but sometimes counties. It helps to know Grey North was the district. When I'm entering the source, I make likely use district, since that is how it is recorded? Then under location, I would just use Grey or Grey county. That sounds like a plan. > > From: Don Brown >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 5:42 PM >Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? > > >Peggy > >Your second question’s answer is Grey is a county, and Grey North/Norde was >just a census district. > >Don Brown >Orangeville, Ontario, Canada > >From:Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com] >Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:30 PM >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? > >I've been confused because some records use, Canada West, or for County they >use Grey, Grey North, Grey (north/norde). I did look up the history to find >out more about where "Canada West" came from. > >My question is for those who have Ontario records to source. Do you use Canada >West for the country? Would you just use "Grey" to keep it standardized, or >would you use what the census uses, however it comes out? > >Often on the census it goes by district rather than county which could be >different. It also often gives the township. I'm wondering how Legacy users >enter these different results into their Master Location list. > >Thank you for any help! >Peggy > > > > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
> > From: Tessa >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 5:41 PM >Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? > >>>Most important point, be sure to take a look at articles about naming >locations for any of the areas you work with and learn some of the >history so you know what the location was when your event took place.<< > >Most of the sources I'm working with come from ancestry.com and many are >census. All give some form of location. I assume, for a census, the place it >was taken would be the location that was correct at the time. I was wondering >if I should use, for example, Canada West for the country, or just Canada. For >the counties, I wondered if I should use what is in the ancestry census source >- Grey is the county that seems to have variatins - or just use Grey. I think >the answer for the county is to enter what is on the census. Probably same for >country, but not as sure. > >Another problem arises when the source isn't clear as to whether it is a >township/town or county. The geo location code occasionally pops up with >something helpful, but usually is no help. Googling it sometimes gives me more >information. If I don't know whether the place is a town or county, I don't >know what field it goes into. I hate to think of how much I'll have to learn >when I don't have the sources spelled out as much as there are when found on >Ancestry. I didn't check the wikipedia article in depth, but found a page with >a simplified version to start with. > >>>You might also want to put that information into a timeline to assist you >if there are marked changes.<< > >Is there a program that I could use to create such a timeline, or would I need >to come up with it on my own? > >>>My practice is as follows: > >(b) Ireland - I include town or village, county, province and country >for Ireland so >Saint Mullins, County Carlow, Leinster, IRELAND<< > >I have a few sources from Ireland and some list Parish. Do you ignore >"parish?" Do you enter it somewhere that it can be found and yet not mess up >the consistency of the locations? > >I do enter the complete spelling of the province or state, but I hate to lose >the township when available so I've been adding it after the town in >parenthesis, and abreviating it to twp. there. When it shows up as township I >put it in the town field and spell it out rather than abreviate. That is also >is a bit confusing in the master location list. Sometimes Ancestry (where most >of my data came from) uses a name that could be town or township. I don't know >if it's because there is a town in that township, or they just are entering >the township without noting the rest. > >I also have been entering the county without the word "county" after it. This >could be a mistake also. >To make it more difficult, in Canada, when census is divided by districts >rather than county, or the district is there and the county noted. (I guess >there can be more than one district in a county) then I don't know what to put >in the county field. I could veer away from the standard four places, but that >might get even more confusing. > >>> I make a note in the master location list >edit section if I feel I need to add any specialty information.<< > >Where is the master location list edit section, where you make the note? > >Thank you for taking the time to try and help this very overwhelmed user! >Peggy > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
Brian, Canada locations are the next ones for me to straighten out and name properly as they were when the events happened. What a confusing history that area has! I believe that the 2 colonies before 1841 that you referred to were Upper Canada and Lower Canada. Mary -Original Message- From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? Peggy, Canada West and Canada East were the names used in Colonial Canada from about 1841 until Confederation in 1867 when the separate Colonies of Canada, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island combined into modern Canada. Before 1841 there were two separate colonies (do not remember what they were called). In 1841 the French and English colonies were combined into one colony called Canada. Canada West was the name given to the English colony in what is now the province of Ontario, Canada East was the former French Colony in what is now the Province of Quebec. The province of Ontario is divided into counties for local government purposes and the Grey you mention is one of the counties. It has now been combined and the present county is called Grey and Simcoe. The area is North of the City of Toronto. Not sure when Grey North existed, if it ever did as a separate county. Within the counties are smaller subdivisions called townships perhaps Grey North is a township name. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
Marg, Depending on the time frame I have locations that are Upper and Lower Canada, Canada West and Canada East. For those locations I also edit the place location and put the time frame that it was with that name and I include the following explanation: 1841-1867 In 1791 the Constitution Act divided Quebec (the former New France) into Upper and Lower Canada. Each had its own legislature and its own unique civil law codes and rules of land tenure. Upper Canada was largely English-speaking and Lower Canada was almost entirely French-speaking. In 1841 the Act of Union united Upper and Lower Canada as the Province of Canada with two halves -- Canada West and Canada East -- collectively known as "The Canadas." Then in 1867 the British North American Act created the Dominion of Canada and Canada East and Canada West became separate provinces known as Quebec and Ontario. Also that year the Province of Canada, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick agreed to join together. These dates are important to family historians because references to Upper and Lower Canada indicate a date before 1841; references to Canada West and Canada East means sometime between 1841 and 1867, and any reference to Ontario implies a time after 1867. When someone born before 1867 told an American census taker that they were "born in Canada" they usually meant Ontario, but might mean Quebec. Russ Strong From: Marg Strong Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:42 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? Thanks, Don. I found that on a webpage today and understand it better. I just don't know if I enter my source locations as Canada West, etc. Or just Canada. -- From: Don Brown To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 5:37 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? Marg See below from a book I have with Ontario counties: Canada West was established in 1841. Prior to this time it was known as Upper Canada. In 1867 Canada West became Ontario. Don Brown Orangeville, Ontario, Canada From: Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? I've been confused because some records use, Canada West, or for County they use Grey, Grey North, Grey (north/norde). I did look up the history to find out more about where "Canada West" came from. My question is for those who have Ontario records to source. Do you use Canada West for the country? Would you just use "Grey" to keep it standardized, or would you use what the census uses, however it comes out? Often on the census it goes by district rather than county which could be different. It also often gives the township. I'm wondering how Legacy users enter these different results into their Master Location list. Thank you for any help! Peggy (snip) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
Thanks, Don. I found that on a webpage today and understand it better. I just don't know if I enter my source locations as Canada West, etc. Or just Canada. > > From: Don Brown >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 5:37 PM >Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? > > >Marg >See below from a book I have with Ontario counties: > >Canada West was established in 1841. Prior to this time it was known as Upper >Canada. In 1867 Canada West became Ontario. > > >Don Brown >Orangeville, Ontario, Canada > >From:Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com] >Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:30 PM >To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? > >I've been confused because some records use, Canada West, or for County they >use Grey, Grey North, Grey (north/norde). I did look up the history to find >out more about where "Canada West" came from. > >My question is for those who have Ontario records to source. Do you use Canada >West for the country? Would you just use "Grey" to keep it standardized, or >would you use what the census uses, however it comes out? > >Often on the census it goes by district rather than county which could be >different. It also often gives the township. I'm wondering how Legacy users >enter these different results into their Master Location list. > >Thank you for any help! >Peggy > >(snip) > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on >our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
Brian Gry and Simcoe are still separate counties in the province of Ontario. Don Brown Orangeville, Ontario, Canada From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? Peggy, Canada West and Canada East were the names used in Colonial Canada from about 1841 until Confederation in 1867 when the separate Colonies of Canada, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island combined into modern Canada. Before 1841 there were two separate colonies (do not remember what they were called). In 1841 the French and English colonies were combined into one colony called Canada. Canada West was the name given to the English colony in what is now the province of Ontario, Canada East was the former French Colony in what is now the Province of Quebec. The province of Ontario is divided into counties for local government purposes and the Grey you mention is one of the counties. It has now been combined and the present county is called Grey and Simcoe. The area is North of the City of Toronto. Not sure when Grey North existed, if it ever did as a separate county. Within the counties are smaller subdivisions called townships perhaps Grey North is a township name. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com (snip) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
Peggy, Canada West and Canada East were the names used in Colonial Canada from about 1841 until Confederation in 1867 when the separate Colonies of Canada, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island combined into modern Canada. Before 1841 there were two separate colonies (do not remember what they were called). In 1841 the French and English colonies were combined into one colony called Canada. Canada West was the name given to the English colony in what is now the province of Ontario, Canada East was the former French Colony in what is now the Province of Quebec. The province of Ontario is divided into counties for local government purposes and the Grey you mention is one of the counties. It has now been combined and the present county is called Grey and Simcoe. The area is North of the City of Toronto. Not sure when Grey North existed, if it ever did as a separate county. Within the counties are smaller subdivisions called townships perhaps Grey North is a township name. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 22/04/2012 4:29 PM, Marg Strong wrote: > I've been confused because some records use, Canada West, or for County they > use Grey, Grey North, Grey (north/norde). I did look up the history to find > out more about where "Canada West" came from. > > My question is for those who have Ontario records to source. Do you use > Canada West for the country? Would you just use "Grey" to keep it > standardized, or would you use what the census uses, however it comes out? > > Often on the census it goes by district rather than county which could be > different. It also often gives the township. I'm wondering how Legacy users > enter these different results into their Master Location list. > > Thank you for any help! > Peggy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
Peggy Your second question’s answer is Grey is a county, and Grey North/Norde was just a census district. Don Brown Orangeville, Ontario, Canada From: Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? I've been confused because some records use, Canada West, or for County they use Grey, Grey North, Grey (north/norde). I did look up the history to find out more about where "Canada West" came from. My question is for those who have Ontario records to source. Do you use Canada West for the country? Would you just use "Grey" to keep it standardized, or would you use what the census uses, however it comes out? Often on the census it goes by district rather than county which could be different. It also often gives the township. I'm wondering how Legacy users enter these different results into their Master Location list. Thank you for any help! Peggy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
Peggy - I don't know how others do things (I am sure we will get lots of responses) but I have a great deal of Newfoundland (pre and post confederation) as well as some British Columbia. While that is not Ontario I think the same principles apply. At the outset, I do use a four place master location and I know that many others consider this a USA driven convention. Most important point, be sure to take a look at articles about naming locations for any of the areas you work with and learn some of the history so you know what the location was when your event took place. You have some serious issues with Ontario because of time-frames - Upper and Lower Canada, various provinces while it was part of Quebec, and the confederation issue. I would suggest if you want to follow the timing that you check out the wikipedia article (I know but it is a good start) and then the Archives of Canada for the discussion of administrative units). I did the same type of thing when I was looking into Newfoundland, Norway, Sweden and Ireland for my own database. You might also want to put that information into a timeline to assist you if there are marked changes. My practice is as follows: (a) Norway - I include the farm name in the suffix in my entries for Norwegian families (they are often known by their farm names) so Lanke, Nedre-Stjordal, Nord-Trondelag, NORWAY [however, I do use the correct special characters in my database for norwegian) (b) Ireland - I include town or village, county, province and country for Ireland so Saint Mullins, County Carlow, Leinster, IRELAND (c) Sweden - I include town or village, county, province and country for Sweden so Basterud, Eksharad, Varmlands lan, SWEDEN [again correct special characters in my database for swedish] (d) Newfoundland - For my Newfoundland (pre and post confederation) and for the other provinces of Canada I do as follows: If it is pre-1949 (confederation), my location reads: Plate Cove, Bonavista Bay, , NEWFOUNDLAND If it is post-1949 (confederation), my location reads: Plate Cove, Bonavista Bay, Newfoundland & Labrador, CANADA (e) Canada - my example for British Columbia reads as follows: Vancouver City, Vancouver, British Columbia, CANADA (f) USA - again four conventions so Seattle, King, Washington, USA I realize that this does not work for all countries but I do make an effort to go the country's website and figure out how they break down their country codes, then I make a note in the master location list edit section if I feel I need to add any specialty information. The key is to think about what you want to do, how you want it to read, and if you and someone else will understand what you are referencing. Above all, don't abbreviate (or if you do put that in the short form) because codes change over time and you want to try to do this once and have a system in place. Just my thoughts. Best of luck! On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Marg Strong wrote: > I've been confused because some records use, Canada West, or for County they > use Grey, Grey North, Grey (north/norde). I did look up the history to find > out more about where "Canada West" came from. > > My question is for those who have Ontario records to source. Do you use > Canada West for the country? Would you just use "Grey" to keep it > standardized, or would you use what the census uses, however it comes out? > > Often on the census it goes by district rather than county which could be > different. It also often gives the township. I'm wondering how Legacy users > enter these different results into their Master Location list. > > Thank you for any help! > Peggy > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on > our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- Tessa Keough Guild No. 5089 Legacy Virtual Users Group Surnames - Keough, Murphy, Aylward, Kocevar, Lidman, Zagradisnik Places - Ireland, Newfoundland, Norway, Slovenia, Sweden, USA (New York, Illinois, Missouri, Nebraska, Washington) Blogs - The Keough Corner and Scandia Musings & More Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.co
RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
Marg See below from a book I have with Ontario counties: Canada West was established in 1841. Prior to this time it was known as Upper Canada. In 1867 Canada West became Ontario. Don Brown Orangeville, Ontario, Canada From: Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries? I've been confused because some records use, Canada West, or for County they use Grey, Grey North, Grey (north/norde). I did look up the history to find out more about where "Canada West" came from. My question is for those who have Ontario records to source. Do you use Canada West for the country? Would you just use "Grey" to keep it standardized, or would you use what the census uses, however it comes out? Often on the census it goes by district rather than county which could be different. It also often gives the township. I'm wondering how Legacy users enter these different results into their Master Location list. Thank you for any help! Peggy (snip) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
