Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Glitch?

2011-01-10 Thread Ron Ferguson
Kirsten,

I don't think that your problem is the same as that described by Leo. I am
aware of that bug (and find it very annoying), but it occurs only when a
source is erroneously added twice, it also makes it more difficult to
correct sourcing errors.

As you say, in your case you are only adding the source once to each event,
and it is this situation which I cannot replicate. I would hope that others
may look at this so that we may determine whether it is my result, or yours,
which is the most common. We are clearly doing something different!

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Kirsten Bowman
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 2:31 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Glitch?

Leo and Ron:

I've attached the source only once to each name field for the bride and
groom, but I've also attached it to the marriage field and that seems to be
when the duplicate pops up.  Since Ron isn't seeing the same problem, I may
have to play with it more to try and narrow it down before reporting.
Thanks to both of you for your responses.

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: leo macdonald [mailto:macdonald...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 5:51 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Glitch?



Hi Ron and Kirsten,

I was having the same problems for the past few weeks, when using a source
(a book) and the souce clipboard to document the pages in the book. When I
attached the source to the person's name it would be attached, however if I
happened to attach it a second time to the same name then I would have two
duplicate sources for the persons name.

I reported this and have received the following reply:

Are you using the Source Clipboard? If so this problem has already been
reported to us by other users and was logged for the programmers’ attention
as issue 3377: “SourceWriter sources duplicate when added repeatedly to same
Event using the Source Clipboard.”

Leo

 From: ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Glitch?
 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 01:17:20 +

 Kirsten,

 I see that your question has not been answered, and although I
 consistently
 use sourced marriage information I cannot replicate your problem. For
 example, one of my ancestors married a Jane Craison; her name and the
 place
 of marriage was obtained from the Parish Registers and I sourced both her
 name on her Individual Screen and the Marriage details on the Marriage
 Screen using the Source Clipboard. The reference for the source is number
 4
 in both instances, and hence the source Detail only appears once in the
 Source Page of the Report.

 I am using Source Writer, and Legacy 7.4.0.45 btw.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 However, I am not
 -Original Message-
 From: Kirsten Bowman
 Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 2:54 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Glitch?

 I'm finding an aggravating problem with duplicated source citations:

 When attaching a citation of any type (book, marriage record, etc.) from
 the
 Source Clipboard to the husband and wife's name fields and the marriage
 information, the source is duplicated in the list of citations on the
 Reports  Books  Descendant report. It seems I can attach that citation
 to
 the names of the husband and wife without duplication, but adding it to
 the
 Marriage Information screen produces the duplication.

 Does anyone else see something like this?

 Kirsten





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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Glitch?

2011-01-10 Thread Ron Ferguson
Jenny,

Your efforts confirm the results which I obtained. As I understand Kirsten's
problem, she is saying that the source number for the individuals' names are
the same, whilst those for the marriage is different. This only my
interpretation though; Kirsten says that the source citation appears twice,
for the name and marriage details, and as far as I can see this can only
happen if they have different reference numbers.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 2:47 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Glitch?

On 10/01/2011 12:19, Ron Ferguson wrote:
 As you say, in your case you are only adding the source once to each
 event,
 and it is this situation which I cannot replicate. I would hope that
 others
 may look at this so that we may determine whether it is my result, or
 yours,
 which is the most common. We are clearly doing something different!

I've rather lost the plot here!  Where is the duplication of Source
appearing?

I have just done a Descendant Book Report for a married couple with the
same (identical) Citation for the husband's name, wife's name and the
marriage.  On the Report those three items have the superscript 3 and
the correct Citation appears as number 3 in the Source list, once only.

But am I looking in the wrong place?

--
Jenny M Benson




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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Glitch?

2011-01-10 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 10/01/2011 17:21, Ron Ferguson wrote:
 As I understand Kirsten's
 problem, she is saying that the source number for the individuals' names are
 the same, whilst those for the marriage is different. This only my
 interpretation though; Kirsten says that the source citation appears twice,
 for the name and marriage details, and as far as I can see this can only
 happen if they have different reference numbers.

Kirsten, is this happening with everybody, or just one couple?

If the latter, my guess would be that some (possibly tiny) difference in
the details has somehow crept in, even though I think you used the
clipboard to copy and paste the citation.  I would try doing the CP
from one instance to the other 2 again.

If it's happening for lots of couples ... I'm stumped!

--
Jenny M Benson



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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Glitch?

2011-01-10 Thread Kirsten Bowman
Ron:

Live and learn!  Now I have to re-think the use of those selections.  Thanks 
again.

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 2:02 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Glitch?


Kirsten,

Yes, it does seem logical. The fact is that by selecting to show the comment
on the first time only your are, in effect, creating two different
citations, one with the comment and one without.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Kirsten Bowman
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 9:49 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Glitch?

Jenny and Ron:

I believe I've found the quirk causing the duplicate source citations.  In
creating the Master Source I added text in the Comments about this Master
Source box, and checked to include it on reports the first time only.  In
experimenting now, I changed that selection to each time--and the
duplicated citation disappeared.

I wouldn't expect that one time/every time choice to have the side effect of
duplicating sources, but perhaps that's the way it's supposed to work.  Does
this seem logical to you?

Thanks so much for helping to investigate this issue.

Kirsten


-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 10:36 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Glitch?


On 10/01/2011 17:21, Ron Ferguson wrote:
 As I understand Kirsten's
 problem, she is saying that the source number for the individuals' names
 are
 the same, whilst those for the marriage is different. This only my
 interpretation though; Kirsten says that the source citation appears
 twice,
 for the name and marriage details, and as far as I can see this can only
 happen if they have different reference numbers.

Kirsten, is this happening with everybody, or just one couple?

If the latter, my guess would be that some (possibly tiny) difference in
the details has somehow crept in, even though I think you used the
clipboard to copy and paste the citation.  I would try doing the CP
from one instance to the other 2 again.

If it's happening for lots of couples ... I'm stumped!

--
Jenny M Benson






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Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Glitch?

2011-01-09 Thread Ron Ferguson
Kirsten,

I see that your question has not been answered, and although I consistently
use sourced marriage information I cannot replicate your problem. For
example, one of my ancestors married a Jane Craison; her name and the place
of marriage was obtained from the Parish Registers and I sourced both her
name on her Individual Screen and the Marriage details on the Marriage
Screen using the Source Clipboard. The reference for the source is number 4
in both instances, and hence the source Detail only appears once in the
Source Page of the Report.

I am using Source Writer, and Legacy 7.4.0.45 btw.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

However, I am not
-Original Message-
From: Kirsten Bowman
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 2:54 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Glitch?

I'm finding an aggravating problem with duplicated source citations:

When attaching a citation of any type (book, marriage record, etc.) from the
Source Clipboard to the husband and wife's name fields and the marriage
information, the source is duplicated in the list of citations on the
Reports  Books  Descendant report.  It seems I can attach that citation to
the names of the husband and wife without duplication, but adding it to the
Marriage Information screen produces the duplication.

Does anyone else see something like this?

Kirsten





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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Glitch?

2011-01-09 Thread leo macdonald

Hi Ron and Kirsten,

I was having the same problems for the past few weeks, when using a source (a 
book) and the souce clipboard to document the pages in the book. When I 
attached the source to the person's name it would be attached, however if I 
happened to attach it a second time to the same name then I would have two 
duplicate sources for the persons name.

I reported this and have received the following reply:

Are you using the Source Clipboard? If so this problem has already been 
reported to us by other users and was logged for the programmers’ attention as 
issue 3377: “SourceWriter sources duplicate when added repeatedly to same Event 
using the Source Clipboard.”

Leo

 From: ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Glitch?
 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 01:17:20 +

 Kirsten,

 I see that your question has not been answered, and although I consistently
 use sourced marriage information I cannot replicate your problem. For
 example, one of my ancestors married a Jane Craison; her name and the place
 of marriage was obtained from the Parish Registers and I sourced both her
 name on her Individual Screen and the Marriage details on the Marriage
 Screen using the Source Clipboard. The reference for the source is number 4
 in both instances, and hence the source Detail only appears once in the
 Source Page of the Report.

 I am using Source Writer, and Legacy 7.4.0.45 btw.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 However, I am not
 -Original Message-
 From: Kirsten Bowman
 Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 2:54 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Glitch?

 I'm finding an aggravating problem with duplicated source citations:

 When attaching a citation of any type (book, marriage record, etc.) from the
 Source Clipboard to the husband and wife's name fields and the marriage
 information, the source is duplicated in the list of citations on the
 Reports  Books  Descendant report. It seems I can attach that citation to
 the names of the husband and wife without duplication, but adding it to the
 Marriage Information screen produces the duplication.

 Does anyone else see something like this?

 Kirsten





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RE: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Glitch?

2011-01-09 Thread Kirsten Bowman
Leo and Ron:

I've attached the source only once to each name field for the bride and groom, 
but I've also attached it to the marriage field and that seems to be when the 
duplicate pops up.  Since Ron isn't seeing the same problem, I may have to play 
with it more to try and narrow it down before reporting.  Thanks to both of you 
for your responses.

Kirsten

-Original Message-
From: leo macdonald [mailto:macdonald...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 5:51 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Glitch?



Hi Ron and Kirsten,

I was having the same problems for the past few weeks, when using a source (a 
book) and the souce clipboard to document the pages in the book. When I 
attached the source to the person's name it would be attached, however if I 
happened to attach it a second time to the same name then I would have two 
duplicate sources for the persons name.

I reported this and have received the following reply:

Are you using the Source Clipboard? If so this problem has already been 
reported to us by other users and was logged for the programmers’ attention as 
issue 3377: “SourceWriter sources duplicate when added repeatedly to same Event 
using the Source Clipboard.”

Leo

 From: ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Glitch?
 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 01:17:20 +

 Kirsten,

 I see that your question has not been answered, and although I consistently
 use sourced marriage information I cannot replicate your problem. For
 example, one of my ancestors married a Jane Craison; her name and the place
 of marriage was obtained from the Parish Registers and I sourced both her
 name on her Individual Screen and the Marriage details on the Marriage
 Screen using the Source Clipboard. The reference for the source is number 4
 in both instances, and hence the source Detail only appears once in the
 Source Page of the Report.

 I am using Source Writer, and Legacy 7.4.0.45 btw.

 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/

 However, I am not
 -Original Message-
 From: Kirsten Bowman
 Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 2:54 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Citation Glitch?

 I'm finding an aggravating problem with duplicated source citations:

 When attaching a citation of any type (book, marriage record, etc.) from the
 Source Clipboard to the husband and wife's name fields and the marriage
 information, the source is duplicated in the list of citations on the
 Reports  Books  Descendant report. It seems I can attach that citation to
 the names of the husband and wife without duplication, but adding it to the
 Marriage Information screen produces the duplication.

 Does anyone else see something like this?

 Kirsten





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