Re: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall 7.5
On 20 Jan 2014 09:07, Graham Lambert wrote: I had to do all above myself to finally delete L7.5. Unfortunately though, all my very precious media was deletedpermanently...how I am not sure? All I remember is being frustrated that 7.5 was not being deleted properly at first, and then later, finally agreeing to a delete, bypassing the recycle bin. Still trying to work out how and why:-( Why? Because your media were stored under the C:\Legacy folder? Delete C:\Legacy delete everything. Media. Family file. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall 7.5
Ah, if only I could go back over every frustrating step...I might be able to work out my big error. Alas, it's not possible. So an old backup and lots of hard work are ahead of me. I've being trying Piniform Recuva software to 'undelete' for the last 2 days, but no good so far. Graham On 20/01/2014 7:03 PM, MikeFry wrote: On 20 Jan 2014 09:07, Graham Lambert wrote: I had to do all above myself to finally delete L7.5. Unfortunately though, all my very precious media was deletedpermanently...how I am not sure? All I remember is being frustrated that 7.5 was not being deleted properly at first, and then later, finally agreeing to a delete, bypassing the recycle bin. Still trying to work out how and why:-( Why? Because your media were stored under the C:\Legacy folder? Delete C:\Legacy delete everything. Media. Family file. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall 7.5
Graham, Was your media stored in your C:\Legacy folder? My media was stored in a separate data partition, but I believe the uninstall deleted c:\legacy so if I had any media there, it would've been gone. Paul Gray Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2014, at 0:47, Graham Lambert gra...@bigpond.net.au wrote: On 20/01/2014 8:26 AM, Paul Gray wrote: Bob, That did the trick, except that I had to use the custom uninstall. Executing unwise.exe gave me three options, Automatic, Custom, or Repair. I first did Automatic and got the same old behaviour it just deleted the install.log file. Copied the install.log file back, and executed Custom. It threw up a few screens asking whether I wanted to delete this or that. For those items that were windows files (e.g. dll's) I said No, for those that were obviously Legacy specific, I chose Yes. Seems to have worked! Paul Gray I had to do all above myself to finally delete L7.5. Unfortunately though, all my very precious media was deletedpermanently...how I am not sure? All I remember is being frustrated that 7.5 was not being deleted properly at first, and then later, finally agreeing to a delete, bypassing the recycle bin. Still trying to work out how and why :-( Graham Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall 7.5
I must admit, I am becoming very confused here, because when looking at where, Default locations of (6.1) family files and (6.2) media files is saying it is located in, C:\Users\Graham\Documents\Legacy Family Tree\Media\but when I look thereI can't even find \Documents\...I can see My Documents, but not just \Documents\...so still scratching my head so far??? I do remember moving it from the Desktop folder, so I must have put it there, and now it's gone. Graham On 20/01/2014 7:12 PM, Paul Gray wrote: Graham, Was your media stored in your C:\Legacy folder? My media was stored in a separate data partition, but I believe the uninstall deleted c:\legacy so if I had any media there, it would've been gone. Paul Gray Sent from my iPhone Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall 7.5
On 20 Jan 2014 11:00, Graham Lambert wrote: I must admit, I am becoming very confused here, because when looking at where, Default locations of (6.1) family files and (6.2) media files is saying it is located in, C:\Users\Graham\Documents\Legacy Family Tree\Media\but when I look thereI can't even find \Documents\...I can see My Documents, but not just \Documents\...so still scratching my head so far??? My Documents is Microsoft shorthand for C:\Users\Graham\Documents -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg (g) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall 7.5
Another reason not to put your media in the Legacy program folder. I would think if your media was placed in My Documents under Legacy, the uninstall would leave it alone. Backup often or get a separate hard drive for your data. I never depend on one hard drive because sometimes they fail. I finally uninstalled Legacy 7.5 last night using the unwise method with no problems. I didn't check any of the Windows files and only selected to delete files associated with Legacy. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: Graham Lambert [mailto:gra...@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 2:07 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall 7.5 On 20/01/2014 8:26 AM, Paul Gray wrote: Bob, That did the trick, except that I had to use the custom uninstall. Executing unwise.exe gave me three options, Automatic, Custom, or Repair. I first did Automatic and got the same old behaviour it just deleted the install.log file. Copied the install.log file back, and executed Custom. It threw up a few screens asking whether I wanted to delete this or that. For those items that were windows files (e.g. dll's) I said No, for those that were obviously Legacy specific, I chose Yes. Seems to have worked! Paul Gray I had to do all above myself to finally delete L7.5. Unfortunately though, all my very precious media was deletedpermanently...how I am not sure? All I remember is being frustrated that 7.5 was not being deleted properly at first, and then later, finally agreeing to a delete, bypassing the recycle bin. Still trying to work out how and why :-( Graham Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall 7.5
Ah yes, okay, so that's where they were I suppose, thanks Mike. Graham On 20/01/2014 10:40 PM, MikeFry wrote: On 20 Jan 2014 11:00, Graham Lambert wrote: I must admit, I am becoming very confused here, because when looking at where, Default locations of (6.1) family files and (6.2) media files is saying it is located in, C:\Users\Graham\Documents\Legacy Family Tree\Media\but when I look thereI can't even find \Documents\...I can see My Documents, but not just \Documents\...so still scratching my head so far??? My Documents is Microsoft shorthand for C:\Users\Graham\Documents Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall 7.5
That's just another mistake I have made. Sure, I did regular backups, but in cleaning up my external backup drive because it was running out of room, somehow I removed the 'Full backup', along with some of the 'Increment' backups. Another valuable lesson learned. Graham On 21/01/2014 2:06 AM, William Boswell wrote: Another reason not to put your media in the Legacy program folder. I would think if your media was placed in My Documents under Legacy, the uninstall would leave it alone. Backup often or get a separate hard drive for your data. I never depend on one hard drive because sometimes they fail. I finally uninstalled Legacy 7.5 last night using the unwise method with no problems. I didn't check any of the Windows files and only selected to delete files associated with Legacy. Bill Boswell -Original Message- From: Graham Lambert [mailto:gra...@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 2:07 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall 7.5 On 20/01/2014 8:26 AM, Paul Gray wrote: Bob, That did the trick, except that I had to use the custom uninstall. Executing unwise.exe gave me three options, Automatic, Custom, or Repair. I first did Automatic and got the same old behaviour it just deleted the install.log file. Copied the install.log file back, and executed Custom. It threw up a few screens asking whether I wanted to delete this or that. For those items that were windows files (e.g. dll's) I said No, for those that were obviously Legacy specific, I chose Yes. Seems to have worked! Paul Gray I had to do all above myself to finally delete L7.5. Unfortunately though, all my very precious media was deletedpermanently...how I am not sure? All I remember is being frustrated that 7.5 was not being deleted properly at first, and then later, finally agreeing to a delete, bypassing the recycle bin. Still trying to work out how and why :-( Graham Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall 7.5
Paul: Yes, the same happened to me, I went through all the same steps you did, and I finally just deleted the whole folder from the C drive. I kept the files in the recycle bin for awhile, but all seemed o.k. and no problems since. Give it a try. Judith -Original Message- From: Paul Gray [mailto:graypa...@outlook.com] Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 12:33 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall 7.5 Well, I'm happy with V8, want to uninstall 7.5. Since I had read previous posts about uninstall problems and the missing install.log file, I first went to C:\Legacy and verified that I indeed did have that file. Went to the Legacy folder on my start menu and found an entry for Uninstall Legacy 7.5. Clicking on properties for this item, I found that it would execute C:\Legacy\Unwise.exe /U C:\Legacy\Install.log. Ran the selection, user account control asked for permission, said yes, then the Unwise executed very quickly (about 1 sec), no message such as uninstall completed, process finished or the like. Went back to the start menu, Legacy 7.5 still there, clicked on it and everything is still there and operational. Looked in C\Legacy, and everything is there except the install.log file. Tried to uninstall again, got message that install.log is missing. Reinstalled 7.5 from website, it recreated install.log (saw that recommended in previous posts) Uninstalled again, same result. All I can get the uninstall to do is delete the install.log file, nothing more. I should say that my installation is the 'default installation' with everything in C:\Legacy except that my data (family file, multimedia) resides in a separate data partition. Any ideas for next steps? Paul Gray Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall 7.5
Paul, Same thing happened to me. First I would check to see if you have the install.log file in the Legacy folder. If you do, make a copy of it and put it on your desktop for safe-keeping. Next, go into the Legacy folder , find the file named unwise.exe and double click it. Basically, you are ignoring the shortcut link inn the Start menu and just executing it manually. It will probably ask if you want to do a custom uninstall or an express uninstall. Choose the express uninstall. (NOTE: can't remember the wording exactly insofar as custom vs. express, but you will see what I mean when the window comes up). Let the express uninstall continue and when it finishes you should be good to go. Hope this helps. Just deleting the Legacy folder from your hard drive (as someone recommended) is probably not a good idea. That will get rid of the Legacy files but leave a bunch of invalid entries in your Windows registry. On 1/19/2014 3:33 PM, Paul Gray wrote: Well, I'm happy with V8, want to uninstall 7.5. Since I had read previous posts about uninstall problems and the missing install.log file, I first went to C:\Legacy and verified that I indeed did have that file. Went to the Legacy folder on my start menu and found an entry for Uninstall Legacy 7.5. Clicking on properties for this item, I found that it would execute C:\Legacy\Unwise.exe /U C:\Legacy\Install.log. Ran the selection, user account control asked for permission, said yes, then the Unwise executed very quickly (about 1 sec), no message such as uninstall completed, process finished or the like. Went back to the start menu, Legacy 7.5 still there, clicked on it and everything is still there and operational. Looked in C\Legacy, and everything is there except the install.log file. Tried to uninstall again, got message that install.log is missing. Reinstalled 7.5 from website, it recreated install.log (saw that recommended in previous posts) Uninstalled again, same result. All I can get the uninstall to do is delete the install.log file, nothing more. I should say that my installation is the 'default installation' with everything in C:\Legacy except that my data (family file, multimedia) resides in a separate data partition. Any ideas for next steps? Paul Gray Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall 7.5
Bob, That did the trick, except that I had to use the custom uninstall. Executing unwise.exe gave me three options, Automatic, Custom, or Repair. I first did Automatic and got the same old behaviour it just deleted the install.log file. Copied the install.log file back, and executed Custom. It threw up a few screens asking whether I wanted to delete this or that. For those items that were windows files (e.g. dll's) I said No, for those that were obviously Legacy specific, I chose Yes. Seems to have worked! Paul Gray -Original Message- From: Bob Janice [mailto:bobjan...@gmail.com] Sent: January-19-14 1:59 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall 7.5 Paul, Same thing happened to me. First I would check to see if you have the install.log file in the Legacy folder. If you do, make a copy of it and put it on your desktop for safe-keeping. Next, go into the Legacy folder , find the file named unwise.exe and double click it. Basically, you are ignoring the shortcut link inn the Start menu and just executing it manually. It will probably ask if you want to do a custom uninstall or an express uninstall. Choose the express uninstall. (NOTE: can't remember the wording exactly insofar as custom vs. express, but you will see what I mean when the window comes up). Let the express uninstall continue and when it finishes you should be good to go. Hope this helps. Just deleting the Legacy folder from your hard drive (as someone recommended) is probably not a good idea. That will get rid of the Legacy files but leave a bunch of invalid entries in your Windows registry. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall 7.5
On 20/01/2014 8:26 AM, Paul Gray wrote: Bob, That did the trick, except that I had to use the custom uninstall. Executing unwise.exe gave me three options, Automatic, Custom, or Repair. I first did Automatic and got the same old behaviour it just deleted the install.log file. Copied the install.log file back, and executed Custom. It threw up a few screens asking whether I wanted to delete this or that. For those items that were windows files (e.g. dll's) I said No, for those that were obviously Legacy specific, I chose Yes. Seems to have worked! Paul Gray I had to do all above myself to finally delete L7.5. Unfortunately though, all my very precious media was deletedpermanently...how I am not sure? All I remember is being frustrated that 7.5 was not being deleted properly at first, and then later, finally agreeing to a delete, bypassing the recycle bin. Still trying to work out how and why :-( Graham Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall 7.5
Dave, Not sure this will apply to your situation, but I had similar trouble with 7.5. and this might work. Look in the program files for Install.log. If it's not there, try re-installing 7.5 once more. Check again to see if install.log is among the program files. You need this to get it uninstalled and each time you uninstall it is deleted. Now see if you can use Control Panel to uninstall, if it's there. If this uninstall doesn't work; re-install again to get an install.log, then go into the program and click on Unwise.exe. If you get options then to do an Auto or Custom uninstall, choose custom. You'll get various options to uninstall. If you hit all of them, you'll lose your unlocking number if it is Deluxe and have to get it back from Legacy if you want to use 7.5 again. From: Dave [famho...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 08:11 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall 7.5 A couple months ago, I got a new Windows 8 laptop. I installed Legacy 7.5 in the default directory and all worked well. Later I upgraded to Windows 8.1 when it became available. Still all worked fine. Now, I purchased Legacy 8 and wanted to uninstall Legacy 7.5. But it doesn't appear in the programs listed in control panel so I can't uninstall. So I tried to install 7.5 over top of it. It then appears in the control panel so I can uninstall. But after uninstalling, the Legacy 7.5 program icon is still there and works fine when clicked. Has anyone experienced this or have any suggestions? Dave Pointer Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Can't uninstall 7.5
That did it.I reinstalled, the install.log was there but still wouldn't work thru control panel.So I reinstalled, the install.log was there.But the UNWISE worked perfectly. Thanks for the quick response. I owe you one! Dave Pointer -- Not sure this will apply to your situation, but I had similar trouble with 7.5. and this might work. Look in the program files for Install.log. If it's not there, try re-installing 7.5 once more. Check again to see if install.log is among the program files. You need this to get it uninstalled and each time you uninstall it is deleted. Now see if you can use Control Panel to uninstall, if it's there. If this uninstall doesn't work; re-install again to get an install.log, then go into the program and click on Unwise.exe. If you get options then to do an Auto or Custom uninstall, choose custom. You'll get various options to uninstall. If you hit all of them, you'll lose your unlocking number if it is Deluxe and have to get it back from Legacy if you want to use 7.5 again. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp