Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-25 Thread Marg Strong
Thanks for the tip, Don. I have a lot of Canadian family.





 From: Don Brown donbr...@sympatico.ca
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Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:14 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?


AniMap is completely useless for Canada. They only have a handful of counties 
in Ontario and have no intention of adding more Canadian data. I got this 
information from Mark Lassagne at AniMap.
 
Don Brown
Orangeville, Ontario, Canada
 
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I looked it up and found out that Legacy store sells it. Expensive, but it 
really looks helpful!
 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-24 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
To create my timelines I have added the organizing dates for all MY US counties 
where someone lived. Then I can have the list of all counties my family member 
lived or had new counties created around. This helps understand the era.




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Thank you for the responses. Someone mentined a timeline and that would make it 
so much easier to find the location information rather than have to look it up 
for each instance (reinventing the wheel). I know there is a timeline feature 
on Legacy, but that is likely for the people and dates that I've already 
entered.

How do you create a timeline? I have no idea how to use a spreadsheet. I've 
created simple (immediate) family timelines with a word processor but that 
wouldn't work for this since it much more complicated. Would you use tables? Is 
there a program I could try?

When I know how to create a timeline, I can collect the boundary changes for 
different places at different times and they would be accessible at a glance. 
Suggestions would be welcome!
Peggy


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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-24 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
I have done it, using Animap for dates and data. Makes good reports.




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Thank you for the responses. Someone mentined a timeline and that would make it 
so much easier to find the location information rather than have to look it up 
for each instance (reinventing the wheel). I know there is a timeline feature 
on Legacy, but that is likely for the people and dates that I've already 
entered.

How do you create a timeline? I have no idea how to use a spreadsheet. I've 
created simple (immediate) family timelines with a word processor but that 
wouldn't work for this since it much more complicated. Would you use tables? Is 
there a program I could try?

When I know how to create a timeline, I can collect the boundary changes for 
different places at different times and they would be accessible at a glance. 
Suggestions would be welcome!
Peggy


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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-24 Thread Marg Strong
I looked it up and found out that Legacy store sells it. Expensive, but it 
really looks helpful!





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Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?


I have done it, using Animap for dates and data. Makes good reports.


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Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?



Thank you for the responses. Someone mentined a timeline and that would make 
it so much easier to find the location information rather than have to look it 
up for each instance (reinventing the wheel). I know there is a timeline 
feature on Legacy, but that is likely for the people and dates that I've 
already entered.

How do you create a timeline? I have no idea how to use a spreadsheet. I've 
created simple (immediate) family timelines with a word processor but that 
wouldn't work for this since it much more complicated. Would you use tables? 
Is there a program I could try?

When I know how to create a timeline, I can collect the boundary changes for 
different places at different times and they would be accessible at a glance. 
Suggestions would be welcome!
Peggy


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RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-23 Thread David C Abernathy
All of the different programs including Legacy uses “Today’s” places for 
locations. It is really the “Mapping” companies that the OEM’s have 
subcontracted to, but that is why one should never accept that the locations 
within these programs to “Be Gospel” , as they are even changing today.



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From: Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:21 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?



Well that would make it more difficult. Shame on them.




  _


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Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:51 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?



I believe that Ancestry.com uses locations as they are in the present.



From: Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:23 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?



I am wondering from your note, Mary, if the location in the source and source 
detail on ancestry.com use the place it would have been or is now? If they 
haven't used the original location it will make it all that much more difficult.




  _


From: M. Brenzel brenze...@roadrunner.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:56 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?


Brian,

Canada locations are the next ones for me to straighten out and name properly 
as they were when the events happened.  What a confusing history that area has!

I believe that the 2 colonies before 1841 that you referred to were Upper 
Canada and Lower Canada.

Mary

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Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:09 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

Peggy,

Canada West and Canada East were the names used in Colonial Canada from about 
1841 until Confederation in 1867 when the separate Colonies of Canada, Nova 
Scotia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island combined into modern Canada. 
Before 1841 there were two separate colonies (do not remember what they were 
called). In 1841 the French and English colonies were combined into one colony 
called Canada. Canada West was the name given to the English colony in what is 
now the province of Ontario, Canada East was the former French Colony in what 
is now the Province of Quebec.

The province of Ontario is divided into counties for local government purposes 
and the Grey you mention is one of the counties. It has now been combined and 
the present county is called Grey and Simcoe. The area is North of the City of 
Toronto. Not sure when Grey North existed, if it ever did as a separate county. 
Within the counties are smaller subdivisions called townships perhaps Grey 
North is a township name.

Brian
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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-23 Thread Nick Diamand
Thanks for your help, Russ. Nick.
- Original Message -
From: R G Strong-genes
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?


I agree, I edit my locations to be what they were at the time of the event.
Russ

From: M. Brenzel
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:51 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

I believe that Ancestry.com uses locations as they are in the present.



From: Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:23 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?



I am wondering from your note, Mary, if the location in the source and source 
detail on ancestry.com use the place it would have been or is now? If they 
haven't used the original location it will make it all that much more difficult.




--

  From: M. Brenzel brenze...@roadrunner.com
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:56 PM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?


  Brian,

  Canada locations are the next ones for me to straighten out and name properly 
as they were when the events happened.  What a confusing history that area has!

  I believe that the 2 colonies before 1841 that you referred to were Upper 
Canada and Lower Canada.

  Mary

  -Original Message-
  From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
  Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:09 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

  Peggy,

  Canada West and Canada East were the names used in Colonial Canada from about 
1841 until Confederation in 1867 when the separate Colonies of Canada, Nova 
Scotia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island combined into modern Canada. 
Before 1841 there were two separate colonies (do not remember what they were 
called). In 1841 the French and English colonies were combined into one colony 
called Canada. Canada West was the name given to the English colony in what is 
now the province of Ontario, Canada East was the former French Colony in what 
is now the Province of Quebec.

  The province of Ontario is divided into counties for local government 
purposes and the Grey you mention is one of the counties. It has now been 
combined and the present county is called Grey and Simcoe. The area is North of 
the City of Toronto. Not sure when Grey North existed, if it ever did as a 
separate county. Within the counties are smaller subdivisions called townships 
perhaps Grey North is a township name.

  Brian
  Customer Support
  Millennia Corporation
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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-23 Thread brenzelmf
Marg,

Actually, I prefer it that way.  Imagine how difficult it would be to find 
records if they were all listed on Ancestry.com under the jurisdiction when the 
event took place.  Some of my places are listed 4 or 5 different ways in my 
location list because of how they were known through the years.

This is just another good reason why we need to study the history too.

Mary

 Marg Strong tiny...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Well that would make it more difficult. Shame on them.
 
  From: M. Brenzel brenze...@roadrunner.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:51 PM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
 
 
 I believe that Ancestry.com uses locations as they are in the present.
  




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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-23 Thread Marg Strong

Thank you for the responses. Someone mentined a timeline and that would make it 
so much easier to find the location information rather than have to look it up 
for each instance (reinventing the wheel). I know there is a timeline feature 
on Legacy, but that is likely for the people and dates that I've already 
entered.

How do you create a timeline? I have no idea how to use a spreadsheet. I've 
created simple (immediate) family timelines with a word processor but that 
wouldn't work for this since it much more complicated. Would you use tables? Is 
there a program I could try?

When I know how to create a timeline, I can collect the boundary changes for 
different places at different times and they would be accessible at a glance. 
Suggestions would be welcome!
Peggy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-23 Thread Sherry/Support
Peggy,

To create a timeline in Legacy, go to View  Timelines and click on
New. Enter your description, then a name for the timeline and
proceed with entering your data in the form provided.

If you need more details, you'll find it in the Help file in Legacy
under Timeline: Creating or by clicking on the Help button in the
Timelines window.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Marg Strong tiny...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Thank you for the responses. Someone mentined a timeline and that would make
 it so much easier to find the location information rather than have to look
 it up for each instance (reinventing the wheel). I know there is a timeline
 feature on Legacy, but that is likely for the people and dates that I've
 already entered.

 How do you create a timeline? I have no idea how to use a spreadsheet. I've
 created simple (immediate) family timelines with a word processor but that
 wouldn't work for this since it much more complicated. Would you use tables?
 Is there a program I could try?

 When I know how to create a timeline, I can collect the boundary changes for
 different places at different times and they would be accessible at a
 glance. Suggestions would be welcome!
 Peggy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-23 Thread Marg Strong
Sherry, thank you so much. I should have known Legacy would have something to 
help with this!





 From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

Peggy,

To create a timeline in Legacy, go to View  Timelines and click on
New. Enter your description, then a name for the timeline and
proceed with entering your data in the form provided.

If you need more details, you'll find it in the Help file in Legacy
under Timeline: Creating or by clicking on the Help button in the
Timelines window.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Marg Strong tiny...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Thank you for the responses. Someone mentined a timeline and that would make
 it so much easier to find the location information rather than have to look
 it up for each instance (reinventing the wheel). I know there is a timeline
 feature on Legacy, but that is likely for the people and dates that I've
 already entered.

 How do you create a timeline? I have no idea how to use a spreadsheet. I've
 created simple (immediate) family timelines with a word processor but that
 wouldn't work for this since it much more complicated. Would you use tables?
 Is there a program I could try?

 When I know how to create a timeline, I can collect the boundary changes for
 different places at different times and they would be accessible at a
 glance. Suggestions would be welcome!
 Peggy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-23 Thread Tessa
Sherry's response is great - and as with many things in Legacy I would
suggest you just open it up and play with it.

Step 1 - See what is in the timelines already.
Step 2 - Open up a rather simple timeline in Legacy to see how it was done
- suggestion here is the federal census for USA.
Step 3 - Try making a timeline of your own - Why and/or How?

I have made timelines for states I am interested in and family lived in at
some time (Missouri, Nebraska, Oregon, Washington), as well as countries
(Ireland, Newfoundland/Canada, Sweden, Norway and Slovenia) because these
places are where my people (to date) are from. Start simple (you can always
add to your timeline).  I suggest a three prong approach - (1) take a look
at the timelines in FamilySearch.org country and state summaries, (2) take
a look at Wikipedia, and (3) take a look at the Archives or Historical
Society for any countries and states you are interested in.

Put all the information you find (copy/paste and source it) in a word
processing document and then go through it and highlight the sections you
want to add to your timeline and perhaps write it up in a way that appeals
to you. Remember that your entry is short - the date and the fact. The
description and notes section can discuss in greater detail and provide the
source.

Create a timeline, add a few entries, save it, see how it looks and then
add to it as time and interest permit. Remember to source each entry (so
you know where you got it - do it right there in notes) and make sure your
entry is short and sweet and put your discussion in the notes section.

Then play around - run a chronology report with a timeline in it - for my
family in Newfoundland - I have when the censuses took place, when women
got the vote, when confederation occurred (reminds me to look to Canada
after that and Great Britain before), when various political factions were
in power, what the industries were and when they faltered (cod), emigration
routes and time-frames. You get the idea.  The timelines are also a really
nice way to incorporate some of your location research.  As with so many
things - play around with it, see how it reads, tweak it, and then use it!

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Marg Strong tiny...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Sherry, thank you so much. I should have known Legacy would have something
 to help with this!

   --
 *From:* Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Sent:* Monday, April 23, 2012 1:31 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing
 boundaries?

 Peggy,

 To create a timeline in Legacy, go to View  Timelines and click on
 New. Enter your description, then a name for the timeline and
 proceed with entering your data in the form provided.

 If you need more details, you'll find it in the Help file in Legacy
 under Timeline: Creating or by clicking on the Help button in the
 Timelines window.



 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree


 On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Marg Strong tiny...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Thank you for the responses. Someone mentined a timeline and that would
 make
  it so much easier to find the location information rather than have to
 look
  it up for each instance (reinventing the wheel). I know there is a
 timeline
  feature on Legacy, but that is likely for the people and dates that I've
  already entered.
 
  How do you create a timeline? I have no idea how to use a spreadsheet.
 I've
  created simple (immediate) family timelines with a word processor but
 that
  wouldn't work for this since it much more complicated. Would you use
 tables?
  Is there a program I could try?
 
  When I know how to create a timeline, I can collect the boundary changes
 for
  different places at different times and they would be accessible at a
  glance. Suggestions would be welcome!
  Peggy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-23 Thread Marg Strong
Thanks, Tessa. My problem is I have so many things to do right now. The main 
thing, which I've neglected the past few days, is to do as much research on 
ancestry.com as I can before my six months subscription is finished. I've given 
up on incorporating it into Legacy until I'm finished and can clean up their 
gedcom. I do have the source detail information in FTM since it syncs with my 
online program, so I will be able to cut and paste even after my subscription 
is up.

Thank you for the idea to put the info in a word processing document first and 
use highlighting. That will save some work. I wish I could skip sleep. I so 
much want to get into what you are talking about and do more with Legacy. Have 
to force myself now to take one step at a time.

I have a folder where I am saving extra helpful messages and I will file this 
in there to refresh my memory when I can start having fun with all I've 
collected on Ancestry.





 From: Tessa murke...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?


Sherry's response is great - and as with many things in Legacy I would suggest 
you just open it up and play with it. 


Step 1 - See what is in the timelines already.
Step 2 - Open up a rather simple timeline in Legacy to see how it was done - 
suggestion here is the federal census for USA.
Step 3 - Try making a timeline of your own - Why and/or How?


I have made timelines for states I am interested in and family lived in at 
some time (Missouri, Nebraska, Oregon, Washington), as well as countries 
(Ireland, Newfoundland/Canada, Sweden, Norway and Slovenia) because these 
places are where my people (to date) are from. Start simple (you can always 
add to your timeline).  I suggest a three prong approach - (1) take a look at 
the timelines in FamilySearch.org country and state summaries, (2) take a look 
at Wikipedia, and (3) take a look at the Archives or Historical Society for 
any countries and states you are interested in. 


Put all the information you find (copy/paste and source it) in a word 
processing document and then go through it and highlight the sections you want 
to add to your timeline and perhaps write it up in a way that appeals to you. 
Remember that your entry is short - the date and the fact. The description 
and notes section can discuss in greater detail and provide the source.


Create a timeline, add a few entries, save it, see how it looks and then add 
to it as time and interest permit. Remember to source each entry (so you know 
where you got it - do it right there in notes) and make sure your entry is 
short and sweet and put your discussion in the notes section. 


Then play around - run a chronology report with a timeline in it - for my 
family in Newfoundland - I have when the censuses took place, when women got 
the vote, when confederation occurred (reminds me to look to Canada after that 
and Great Britain before), when various political factions were in power, what 
the industries were and when they faltered (cod), emigration routes and 
time-frames. You get the idea.  The timelines are also a really nice way to 
incorporate some of your location research.  As with so many things - play 
around with it, see how it reads, tweak it, and then use it!


On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Marg Strong tiny...@yahoo.com wrote:

Sherry, thank you so much. I should have known Legacy would have something to 
help with this!




 From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?


Peggy,

To create a timeline in Legacy, go to View  Timelines and click on
New. Enter your description, then a name for the timeline and
proceed with entering your data in the form provided.

If you need more details, you'll find it in the Help file in Legacy
under Timeline: Creating or by clicking on the Help button in the
Timelines window.



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Marg Strong tiny...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Thank you for the responses. Someone mentined a timeline and that would 
 make
 it so much easier to find the location information rather than have to look
 it up for each instance (reinventing the wheel). I know there is a timeline
 feature on
 Legacy, but that is likely for the people and dates that I've
 already entered.

 How do you create a timeline? I have no idea how to use a spreadsheet. I've
 created simple (immediate) family timelines with a word processor but that
 wouldn't work for this since it much more complicated. Would you use 
 tables?
 Is there a program I could try?

 When I know how to create a timeline, I can collect the boundary changes 
 for
 different places at different times and they would

RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-22 Thread Don Brown
Marg

See below from a book I have with Ontario counties:



Canada West was established in 1841. Prior to this time it was known as Upper 
Canada. In 1867 Canada West became Ontario.





Don Brown

Orangeville, Ontario, Canada



From: Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:30 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?



I've been confused because some records use, Canada West, or for County they 
use Grey, Grey North, Grey (north/norde). I did look up the history to find out 
more about where Canada West came from.



My question is for those who have Ontario records to source. Do you use Canada 
West for the country? Would you just use Grey to keep it standardized, or 
would you use what the census uses, however it comes out?



Often on the census it goes by district rather than county which could be 
different. It also often gives the township. I'm wondering how Legacy users 
enter these different results into their Master Location list.



Thank you for any help!

Peggy


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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-22 Thread Tessa
Peggy -
I don't know how others do things (I am sure we will get lots of
responses) but I have a great deal of Newfoundland (pre and post
confederation) as well as some British Columbia. While that is not
Ontario I think the same principles apply. At the outset, I do use a
four place master location and I know that many others consider this a
USA driven convention.

Most important point, be sure to take a look at articles about naming
locations for any of the areas you work with and learn some of the
history so you know what the location was when your event took place.
You have some serious issues with Ontario because of time-frames -
Upper and Lower Canada, various provinces while it was part of Quebec,
and the confederation issue. I would suggest if you want to follow the
timing that you check out the wikipedia article (I know but it is a
good start) and then the Archives of Canada for the discussion of
administrative units). I did the same type of thing when I was looking
into Newfoundland, Norway, Sweden and Ireland for my own database. You
might also want to put that information into a timeline to assist you
if there are marked changes.
My practice is as follows:
(a) Norway - I include the farm name in the suffix in my entries for
Norwegian families (they are often known by their farm names) so
Lanke, Nedre-Stjordal, Nord-Trondelag, NORWAY [however, I do use the
correct special characters in my database for norwegian)
(b) Ireland - I include town or village, county, province and country
for Ireland so
Saint Mullins, County Carlow, Leinster, IRELAND
(c) Sweden - I include town or village, county, province and country
for Sweden so
Basterud, Eksharad, Varmlands lan, SWEDEN [again correct special
characters in my database for swedish]
(d) Newfoundland - For my Newfoundland (pre and post confederation)
and for the other provinces of Canada I do as follows:
If it is pre-1949 (confederation), my location reads:
Plate Cove, Bonavista Bay, , NEWFOUNDLAND
If it is post-1949 (confederation), my location reads:
Plate Cove, Bonavista Bay, Newfoundland  Labrador, CANADA
(e) Canada - my example for  British Columbia reads as follows:
Vancouver City, Vancouver, British Columbia, CANADA
(f) USA - again four conventions so
Seattle, King, Washington, USA

I realize that this does not work for all countries but I do make an
effort to go the country's website and figure out how they break down
their country codes, then I make a note in the master location list
edit section if I feel I need to add any specialty information.

The key is to think about what you want to do, how you want it to
read, and if you and someone else will understand what you are
referencing. Above all, don't abbreviate (or if you do put that in the
short form) because codes change over time and you want to try to do
this once and have a system in place.  Just my thoughts. Best of luck!

On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Marg Strong tiny...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I've been confused because some records use, Canada West, or for County they
 use Grey, Grey North, Grey (north/norde). I did look up the history to find
 out more about where Canada West came from.

 My question is for those who have Ontario records to source. Do you use
 Canada West for the country? Would you just use Grey to keep it
 standardized, or would you use what the census uses, however it comes out?

 Often on the census it goes by district rather than county which could be
 different. It also often gives the township. I'm wondering how Legacy users
 enter these different results into their Master Location list.

 Thank you for any help!
 Peggy


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RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-22 Thread Don Brown
Peggy



Your second question’s answer is Grey is a county, and Grey North/Norde was 
just a census district.



Don Brown

Orangeville, Ontario, Canada



From: Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:30 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?



I've been confused because some records use, Canada West, or for County they 
use Grey, Grey North, Grey (north/norde). I did look up the history to find out 
more about where Canada West came from.



My question is for those who have Ontario records to source. Do you use Canada 
West for the country? Would you just use Grey to keep it standardized, or 
would you use what the census uses, however it comes out?



Often on the census it goes by district rather than county which could be 
different. It also often gives the township. I'm wondering how Legacy users 
enter these different results into their Master Location list.



Thank you for any help!

Peggy










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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-22 Thread Brian/Support
Peggy,

Canada West and Canada East were the names used in Colonial Canada from
about 1841 until Confederation in 1867 when the separate Colonies of
Canada, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island combined
into modern Canada. Before 1841 there were two separate colonies (do not
remember what they were called). In 1841 the French and English colonies
were combined into one colony called Canada. Canada West was the name
given to the English colony in what is now the province of Ontario,
Canada East was the former French Colony in what is now the Province of
Quebec.

The province of Ontario is divided into counties for local government
purposes and the Grey you mention is one of the counties. It has now
been combined and the present county is called Grey and Simcoe. The area
is North of the City of Toronto. Not sure when Grey North existed, if it
ever did as a separate county. Within the counties are smaller
subdivisions called townships perhaps Grey North is a township name.

Brian
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On 22/04/2012 4:29 PM, Marg Strong wrote:
 I've been confused because some records use, Canada West, or for County they 
 use Grey, Grey North, Grey (north/norde). I did look up the history to find 
 out more about where Canada West came from.

 My question is for those who have Ontario records to source. Do you use 
 Canada West for the country? Would you just use Grey to keep it 
 standardized, or would you use what the census uses, however it comes out?

 Often on the census it goes by district rather than county which could be 
 different. It also often gives the township. I'm wondering how Legacy users 
 enter these different results into their Master Location list.

 Thank you for any help!
 Peggy



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RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-22 Thread Don Brown
Brian

Gry and Simcoe are still separate counties in the province of Ontario.



Don Brown

Orangeville, Ontario, Canada



From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:09 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?



Peggy,

Canada West and Canada East were the names used in Colonial Canada from
about 1841 until Confederation in 1867 when the separate Colonies of
Canada, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island combined
into modern Canada. Before 1841 there were two separate colonies (do not
remember what they were called). In 1841 the French and English colonies
were combined into one colony called Canada. Canada West was the name
given to the English colony in what is now the province of Ontario,
Canada East was the former French Colony in what is now the Province of
Quebec.

The province of Ontario is divided into counties for local government
purposes and the Grey you mention is one of the counties. It has now
been combined and the present county is called Grey and Simcoe. The area
is North of the City of Toronto. Not sure when Grey North existed, if it
ever did as a separate county. Within the counties are smaller
subdivisions called townships perhaps Grey North is a township name.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-22 Thread Marg Strong
Thanks, Don. I found that on a webpage today and understand it better. I just 
don't know if I enter my source locations as Canada West, etc. Or just Canada.





 From: Don Brown donbr...@sympatico.ca
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 5:37 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?


Marg
See below from a book I have with Ontario counties:
 
Canada West was established in 1841. Prior to this time it was known as Upper 
Canada. In 1867 Canada West became Ontario.
 
 
Don Brown
Orangeville, Ontario, Canada
 
From:Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:30 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
 
I've been confused because some records use, Canada West, or for County they 
use Grey, Grey North, Grey (north/norde). I did look up the history to find 
out more about where Canada West came from.
 
My question is for those who have Ontario records to source. Do you use Canada 
West for the country? Would you just use Grey to keep it standardized, or 
would you use what the census uses, however it comes out?
 
Often on the census it goes by district rather than county which could be 
different. It also often gives the township. I'm wondering how Legacy users 
enter these different results into their Master Location list.
 
Thank you for any help!
Peggy

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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-22 Thread R G Strong-genes
Marg,
Depending on the time frame I have locations that are Upper and Lower Canada, 
Canada West and Canada East. For those locations I also edit the place location 
and put the time frame that it was with that name and I include the following 
explanation:

1841-1867
In 1791 the Constitution Act divided Quebec (the former New France) into Upper 
and Lower Canada. Each had its own legislature and its own unique civil law 
codes and rules of land tenure. Upper Canada was largely English-speaking and 
Lower Canada was almost entirely French-speaking. In 1841 the Act of Union 
united Upper and Lower Canada as the Province of Canada with two halves -- 
Canada West and Canada East -- collectively known as The Canadas.

Then in 1867 the British North American Act created the Dominion of Canada and 
Canada East and Canada West became separate provinces known as Quebec and 
Ontario. Also that year the Province of Canada, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick 
agreed to join together. These dates are important to family historians because 
references to Upper and Lower Canada indicate a date before 1841; references to 
Canada West and Canada East means sometime between 1841 and 1867, and any 
reference to Ontario implies a time after 1867. When someone born before 1867 
told an American census taker that they were born in Canada they usually 
meant Ontario, but might mean Quebec.


Russ Strong

From: Marg Strong
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:42 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

Thanks, Don. I found that on a webpage today and understand it better. I just 
don't know if I enter my source locations as Canada West, etc. Or just Canada.




--
  From: Don Brown donbr...@sympatico.ca
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 5:37 PM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?


  Marg
  See below from a book I have with Ontario counties:

  Canada West was established in 1841. Prior to this time it was known as Upper 
Canada. In 1867 Canada West became Ontario.


  Don Brown
  Orangeville, Ontario, Canada

  From: Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com]
  Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:30 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

  I've been confused because some records use, Canada West, or for County they 
use Grey, Grey North, Grey (north/norde). I did look up the history to find out 
more about where Canada West came from.

  My question is for those who have Ontario records to source. Do you use 
Canada West for the country? Would you just use Grey to keep it standardized, 
or would you use what the census uses, however it comes out?

  Often on the census it goes by district rather than county which could be 
different. It also often gives the township. I'm wondering how Legacy users 
enter these different results into their Master Location list.

  Thank you for any help!
  Peggy

  (snip)





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RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-22 Thread M. Brenzel
Brian,

Canada locations are the next ones for me to straighten out and name properly 
as they were when the events happened.  What a confusing history that area has!

I believe that the 2 colonies before 1841 that you referred to were Upper 
Canada and Lower Canada.

Mary

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:09 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

Peggy,

Canada West and Canada East were the names used in Colonial Canada from about 
1841 until Confederation in 1867 when the separate Colonies of Canada, Nova 
Scotia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island combined into modern Canada. 
Before 1841 there were two separate colonies (do not remember what they were 
called). In 1841 the French and English colonies were combined into one colony 
called Canada. Canada West was the name given to the English colony in what is 
now the province of Ontario, Canada East was the former French Colony in what 
is now the Province of Quebec.

The province of Ontario is divided into counties for local government purposes 
and the Grey you mention is one of the counties. It has now been combined and 
the present county is called Grey and Simcoe. The area is North of the City of 
Toronto. Not sure when Grey North existed, if it ever did as a separate county. 
Within the counties are smaller subdivisions called townships perhaps Grey 
North is a township name.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-22 Thread Marg Strong






 From: Tessa murke...@gmail.com
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Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 5:41 PM
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Most important point, be sure to take a look at articles about naming
locations for any of the areas you work with and learn some of the
history so you know what the location was when your event took place.

Most of the sources I'm working with come from ancestry.com and many are 
census. All give some form of location. I assume, for a census, the place it 
was taken would be the location that was correct at the time. I was wondering 
if I should use, for example, Canada West for the country, or just Canada. For 
the counties, I wondered if I should use what is in the ancestry census source 
- Grey is the county that seems to have variatins - or just use Grey. I think 
the answer for the county is to enter what is on the census. Probably same for 
country, but not as sure.

Another problem arises when the source isn't clear as to whether it is a 
township/town or county. The geo location code occasionally pops up with 
something helpful, but usually is no help. Googling it sometimes gives me more 
information. If I don't know whether the place is a town or county, I don't 
know what field it goes into. I hate to think of how much I'll have to learn 
when I don't have the sources spelled out as much as there are when found on 
Ancestry. I didn't check the wikipedia article in depth, but found a page with 
a simplified version to start with.

You might also want to put that information into a timeline to assist you
if there are marked changes.

Is there a program that I could use to create such a timeline, or would I need 
to come up with it on my own?

My practice is as follows:

(b) Ireland - I include town or village, county, province and country
for Ireland so
Saint Mullins, County Carlow, Leinster, IRELAND

I have a few sources from Ireland and some list Parish. Do you ignore 
parish? Do you enter it somewhere that it can be found and yet not mess up 
the consistency of the locations?

I do enter the complete spelling of the province or state, but I hate to lose 
the township when available so I've been adding it after the town in 
parenthesis, and abreviating it to twp. there. When it shows up as township I 
put it in the town field and spell it out rather than abreviate. That is also 
is a bit confusing in the master location list. Sometimes Ancestry (where most 
of my data came from) uses a name that could be town or township. I don't know 
if it's because there is a town in that township, or they just are entering 
the township without noting the rest.

I also have been entering the county without the word county after it. This 
could be a mistake also.
To make it more difficult, in Canada, when census is divided by districts 
rather than county, or the district is there and the county noted. (I guess 
there can be more than one district in a county) then I don't know what to put 
in the county field. I could veer away from the standard four places, but that 
might get even more confusing.

 I make a note in the master location list
edit section if I feel I need to add any specialty information.

Where is the master location list edit section, where you make the note?

Thank you for taking the time to try and help this very overwhelmed user!
Peggy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-22 Thread Marg Strong
That makes sense. I knew that the census places were often districts but 
sometimes counties. It helps to know Grey North was the district. When I'm 
entering the source, I make likely use district, since that is how it is 
recorded? Then under location, I would just use Grey or Grey county. That 
sounds like a plan.





 From: Don Brown donbr...@sympatico.ca
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 5:42 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?


Peggy
 
Your second question’s answer is Grey is a county, and Grey North/Norde was 
just a census district.
 
Don Brown
Orangeville, Ontario, Canada
 
From:Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:30 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
 
I've been confused because some records use, Canada West, or for County they 
use Grey, Grey North, Grey (north/norde). I did look up the history to find 
out more about where Canada West came from.
 
My question is for those who have Ontario records to source. Do you use Canada 
West for the country? Would you just use Grey to keep it standardized, or 
would you use what the census uses, however it comes out?
 
Often on the census it goes by district rather than county which could be 
different. It also often gives the township. I'm wondering how Legacy users 
enter these different results into their Master Location list.
 
Thank you for any help!
Peggy



 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-22 Thread Marg Strong
I think Don was correct in saying that Grey North was a district. It makes 
sense. To me, Canada is the country. But if it was Canada West or East when the 
census was taken, would that be what I would enter in the country field?





 From: Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com
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Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

Peggy,

Canada West and Canada East were the names used in Colonial Canada from
about 1841 until Confederation in 1867 when the separate Colonies of
Canada, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island combined
into modern Canada. Before 1841 there were two separate colonies (do not
remember what they were called). In 1841 the French and English colonies
were combined into one colony called Canada. Canada West was the name
given to the English colony in what is now the province of Ontario,
Canada East was the former French Colony in what is now the Province of
Quebec.

The province of Ontario is divided into counties for local government
purposes and the Grey you mention is one of the counties. It has now
been combined and the present county is called Grey and Simcoe. The area
is North of the City of Toronto. Not sure when Grey North existed, if it
ever did as a separate county. Within the counties are smaller
subdivisions called townships perhaps Grey North is a township name.

Brian
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On 22/04/2012 4:29 PM, Marg Strong wrote:
 I've been confused because some records use, Canada West, or for County they 
 use Grey, Grey North, Grey (north/norde). I did look up the history to find 
 out more about where Canada West came from.

 My question is for those who have Ontario records to source. Do you use 
 Canada West for the country? Would you just use Grey to keep it 
 standardized, or would you use what the census uses, however it comes out?

 Often on the census it goes by district rather than county which could be 
 different. It also often gives the township. I'm wondering how Legacy users 
 enter these different results into their Master Location list.

 Thank you for any help!
 Peggy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-22 Thread Marg Strong
Russ, I like that. Do you put it under the notes in the Master Location list, 
or the event list? How would you work a report so it only prints out once, or 
do you?
Thank you.





 From: R G Strong-genes rgstrongge...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?


Marg,
Depending on the time frame I have locations that are Upper and Lower
Canada, Canada West and Canada East. For those locations I also edit the place
location and put the time frame that it was with that name and I include the
following explanation:
 
1841-1867
In 1791 the Constitution Act divided Quebec (the former New France) into
Upper and Lower Canada. Each had its own legislature and its own unique civil
law codes and rules of land tenure. Upper Canada was largely English-speaking
and Lower Canada was almost entirely French-speaking. In 1841 the Act of Union
united Upper and Lower Canada as the Province of Canada with two halves --
Canada West and Canada East -- collectively known as The Canadas.
 
Then in 1867 the British North American Act created the Dominion of Canada
and Canada East and Canada West became separate provinces known as Quebec and
Ontario. Also that year the Province of Canada, Nova Scotia and New Brunswick
agreed to join together. These dates are important to family historians because
references to Upper and Lower Canada indicate a date before 1841; references to
Canada West and Canada East means sometime between 1841 and 1867, and any
reference to Ontario implies a time after 1867. When someone born before 1867
told an American census taker that they were born in Canada they usually meant
Ontario, but might mean Quebec.
 
 
Russ Strong 
From: Marg Strong
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:42 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing
boundaries?
  Thanks, Don. I found that on a webpage today and understand it
better. I just don't know if I enter my source locations as Canada West, etc. Or
just Canada.





 From: Don Brown donbr...@sympatico.ca
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 5:37 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

 

Marg
See below from a book I have with Ontario counties:
 
Canada West was established in 1841. Prior to this time it was known as Upper 
Canada. In 1867 Canada West became Ontario.
 
 
Don Brown
Orangeville, Ontario, Canada
 
From:Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:30 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
 
I've been confused because some records use, Canada West, or for County they 
use Grey, Grey North, Grey (north/norde). I did look up the history to find 
out more about where Canada West came from.
 
My question is for those who have Ontario records to source. Do you use 
Canada West for the country? Would you just use Grey to keep it 
standardized, or would you use what the census uses, however it comes out?
 
Often on the census it goes by district rather than county which could be 
different. It also often gives the township. I'm wondering how Legacy users 
enter these different results into their Master Location list.
 
Thank you for any help!
Peggy

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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-22 Thread Marg Strong
I am wondering from your note, Mary, if the location in the source and source 
detail on ancestry.com use the place it would have been or is now? If they 
haven't used the original location it will make it all that much more difficult.





 From: M. Brenzel brenze...@roadrunner.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:56 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

Brian,

Canada locations are the next ones for me to straighten out and name properly 
as they were when the events happened.  What a confusing history that area has!

I believe that the 2 colonies before 1841 that you referred to were Upper 
Canada and Lower Canada.

Mary

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Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:09 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

Peggy,

Canada West and Canada East were the names used in Colonial Canada from about 
1841 until Confederation in 1867 when the separate Colonies of Canada, Nova 
Scotia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island combined into modern Canada. 
Before 1841 there were two separate colonies (do not remember what they were 
called). In 1841 the French and English colonies were combined into one colony 
called Canada. Canada West was the name given to the English colony in what is 
now the province of Ontario, Canada East was the former French Colony in what 
is now the Province of Quebec.

The province of Ontario is divided into counties for local government purposes 
and the Grey you mention is one of the counties. It has now been combined and 
the present county is called Grey and Simcoe. The area is North of the City of 
Toronto. Not sure when Grey North existed, if it ever did as a separate 
county. Within the counties are smaller subdivisions called townships perhaps 
Grey North is a township name.

Brian
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RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-22 Thread M. Brenzel
I believe that Ancestry.com uses locations as they are in the present.



From: Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:23 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?



I am wondering from your note, Mary, if the location in the source and source 
detail on ancestry.com use the place it would have been or is now? If they 
haven't used the original location it will make it all that much more difficult.




  _


From: M. Brenzel brenze...@roadrunner.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:56 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?


Brian,

Canada locations are the next ones for me to straighten out and name properly 
as they were when the events happened.  What a confusing history that area has!

I believe that the 2 colonies before 1841 that you referred to were Upper 
Canada and Lower Canada.

Mary

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:09 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

Peggy,

Canada West and Canada East were the names used in Colonial Canada from about 
1841 until Confederation in 1867 when the separate Colonies of Canada, Nova 
Scotia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island combined into modern Canada. 
Before 1841 there were two separate colonies (do not remember what they were 
called). In 1841 the French and English colonies were combined into one colony 
called Canada. Canada West was the name given to the English colony in what is 
now the province of Ontario, Canada East was the former French Colony in what 
is now the Province of Quebec.

The province of Ontario is divided into counties for local government purposes 
and the Grey you mention is one of the counties. It has now been combined and 
the present county is called Grey and Simcoe. The area is North of the City of 
Toronto. Not sure when Grey North existed, if it ever did as a separate county. 
Within the counties are smaller subdivisions called townships perhaps Grey 
North is a township name.

Brian
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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

2012-04-22 Thread Marg Strong
Well that would make it more difficult. Shame on them.





 From: M. Brenzel brenze...@roadrunner.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:51 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?


I believe that Ancestry.com uses locations as they are in the present.
 
From:Marg Strong [mailto:tiny...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:23 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?
 
I am wondering from your note, Mary, if the location in the source and source 
detail on ancestry.com use the place it would have been or is now? If they 
haven't used the original location it will make it all that much more 
difficult.
 



From:M. Brenzel brenze...@roadrunner.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:56 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

Brian,

Canada locations are the next ones for me to straighten out and name properly 
as they were when the events happened.  What a confusing history that area 
has!

I believe that the 2 colonies before 1841 that you referred to were Upper 
Canada and Lower Canada.

Mary

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:09 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Canadian Locations - Changing boundaries?

Peggy,

Canada West and Canada East were the names used in Colonial Canada from about 
1841 until Confederation in 1867 when the separate Colonies of Canada, Nova 
Scotia, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island combined into modern Canada. 
Before 1841 there were two separate colonies (do not remember what they were 
called). In 1841 the French and English colonies were combined into one 
colony called Canada. Canada West was the name given to the English colony in 
what is now the province of Ontario, Canada East was the former French Colony 
in what is now the Province of Quebec.

The province of Ontario is divided into counties for local government 
purposes and the Grey you mention is one of the counties. It has now been 
combined and the present county is called Grey and Simcoe. The area is North 
of the City of Toronto. Not sure when Grey North existed, if it ever did as a 
separate county. Within the counties are smaller subdivisions called 
townships perhaps Grey North is a township name.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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