RE: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

2012-02-11 Thread Alan Pereira
Brian, Yes I am suggesting the drop down on the Event Description but only 
where the Event Fact is Occupation
A drop down list can be popluated dynamically from a query on the existing 
tables, the query being
SELECT distinct tblER.Description FROM tblER WHERE (((tblER.IDET)=47));
with the requisite order by
The table solution could be provided by population from the above query on 
opening the database if response times become an issue.
I have used the query approach on many applications where the populated size of 
the table is low (less than 500,000 rows).  As IDET is an indexed field I am 
sure dynamic drop down list is a valid option.
Alan

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: 11 February 2012 05:13
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

Alan,

There is no Occupation Description field where your suggestion could be 
applied. In Legacy Occupation is an event.

If you are suggesting that the Event Description field have an autocomplete and 
drop down list option, that would require a database table be linked to that 
field. Since Occupation is only one of the many event names in the Event Master 
List I do not think you can link a database table to the description only when 
the Event name selected is Occupation and not have it linked for all the other 
Events.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

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On 10/02/2012 12:23 PM, Alan Pereira wrote:
 Maybe a worthwhile option would be for the Occupation Description field to 
 display a drop down list of occupations that you have already added such that 
 as you started to type in the field the list reduced down.  This type of 
 functionality is possible in MSAccess forms so should be just as easy to 
 produce in Legacy.

 It would allow you to standardise within  your own database without affecting 
 the base functionality of Legacy.

 Alan


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RE: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

2012-02-11 Thread Alan Pereira
Hi Mike
I avoid using both the Title fields as these influence how a person is 
displayed, preferring to add title as an event.
Occupation can change over time - I spent half my working life as a mechanical 
engineer and the other half as a systems analyst.  Some of my ancestors changed 
occupation as many as 6 times.  The Event Occupation handles this very well.
Alan

-Original Message-
From: Mike Bridgeford [mailto:mikebridgef...@gmail.com]
Sent: 11 February 2012 06:40
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

Hi Alan,
I use the 'title suf', after the person's name to record the person's main 
occupation in square brackets. For example, mine would be Michael Angus 
Bridgeford [mech.engineer]. It may not be sortable, but it give me a very quick 
and ready guide to a person's main occupation, which helps with the 
identification of other information relevant to him. I do not normally put in 
the female's occupation, unless it is relevant.
Regards,
Mike bridgeford

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: 11 February 2012 07:13 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

Alan,

There is no Occupation Description field where your suggestion could be 
applied. In Legacy Occupation is an event.

If you are suggesting that the Event Description field have an autocomplete and 
drop down list option, that would require a database table be linked to that 
field. Since Occupation is only one of the many event names in the Event Master 
List I do not think you can link a database table to the description only when 
the Event name selected is Occupation and not have it linked for all the other 
Events.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!
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Thanks.

On 10/02/2012 12:23 PM, Alan Pereira wrote:
 Maybe a worthwhile option would be for the Occupation Description field to 
 display a drop down list of occupations that you have already added such that 
 as you started to type in the field the list reduced down.  This type of 
 functionality is possible in MSAccess forms so should be just as easy to 
 produce in Legacy.

 It would allow you to standardise within  your own database without affecting 
 the base functionality of Legacy.

 Alan


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Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

2012-02-11 Thread Ron Ferguson
Alan,

Whilst that may well work for you, it will not work for me because (a) I do
not have an IDER value of 47, and (b) the way I use that Events is clearly
very different to that used by yourself. In other words, for many (most?)
people it will give totally stupid result. I cannot think of anyway of doing
this where the method of using a function is at the discretion of the user.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


-Original Message-
From: Alan Pereira
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 11:27 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

Brian, Yes I am suggesting the drop down on the Event Description but only
where the Event Fact is Occupation
A drop down list can be popluated dynamically from a query on the existing
tables, the query being
SELECT distinct tblER.Description FROM tblER WHERE (((tblER.IDET)=47));
with the requisite order by
The table solution could be provided by population from the above query on
opening the database if response times become an issue.
I have used the query approach on many applications where the populated size
of the table is low (less than 500,000 rows).  As IDET is an indexed field I
am sure dynamic drop down list is a valid option.
Alan

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: 11 February 2012 05:13
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

Alan,

There is no Occupation Description field where your suggestion could be
applied. In Legacy Occupation is an event.

If you are suggesting that the Event Description field have an autocomplete
and drop down list option, that would require a database table be linked to
that field. Since Occupation is only one of the many event names in the
Event Master List I do not think you can link a database table to the
description only when the Event name selected is Occupation and not have it
linked for all the other Events.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!
When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
Thanks.

On 10/02/2012 12:23 PM, Alan Pereira wrote:
 Maybe a worthwhile option would be for the Occupation Description field to
 display a drop down list of occupations that you have already added such
 that as you started to type in the field the list reduced down.  This type
 of functionality is possible in MSAccess forms so should be just as easy
 to produce in Legacy.

 It would allow you to standardise within  your own database without
 affecting the base functionality of Legacy.

 Alan



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RE: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

2012-02-11 Thread Alan Pereira
Ron, you have answered your own comment.  If you do not use the event Fact 
occupation then you will not have an IDET=47.  This drop down list will, for 
you, not occur.
This is exactly what I meant by it being at the discretion of the user.
If you use it, then it populates with values you have previously used.  This 
you can add to with a new value or use again so as to standardise your 
Occupation description.
Alan

-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: 11 February 2012 12:57
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

Alan,

Whilst that may well work for you, it will not work for me because (a) I do not 
have an IDER value of 47, and (b) the way I use that Events is clearly very 
different to that used by yourself. In other words, for many (most?) people it 
will give totally stupid result. I cannot think of anyway of doing this where 
the method of using a function is at the discretion of the user.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


-Original Message-
From: Alan Pereira
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 11:27 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

Brian, Yes I am suggesting the drop down on the Event Description but only 
where the Event Fact is Occupation A drop down list can be popluated 
dynamically from a query on the existing tables, the query being SELECT 
distinct tblER.Description FROM tblER WHERE (((tblER.IDET)=47)); with the 
requisite order by The table solution could be provided by population from the 
above query on opening the database if response times become an issue.
I have used the query approach on many applications where the populated size of 
the table is low (less than 500,000 rows).  As IDET is an indexed field I am 
sure dynamic drop down list is a valid option.
Alan

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: 11 February 2012 05:13
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

Alan,

There is no Occupation Description field where your suggestion could be 
applied. In Legacy Occupation is an event.

If you are suggesting that the Event Description field have an autocomplete and 
drop down list option, that would require a database table be linked to that 
field. Since Occupation is only one of the many event names in the Event Master 
List I do not think you can link a database table to the description only when 
the Event name selected is Occupation and not have it linked for all the other 
Events.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!
When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
Thanks.

On 10/02/2012 12:23 PM, Alan Pereira wrote:
 Maybe a worthwhile option would be for the Occupation Description
 field to display a drop down list of occupations that you have already
 added such that as you started to type in the field the list reduced
 down.  This type of functionality is possible in MSAccess forms so
 should be just as easy to produce in Legacy.

 It would allow you to standardise within  your own database without
 affecting the base functionality of Legacy.

 Alan



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Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

2012-02-11 Thread Ron Ferguson
Alan,

I do have an Event/Fact Occupation. However its IDET has a value of 51.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


-Original Message-
From: Alan Pereira
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:19 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

Ron, you have answered your own comment.  If you do not use the event Fact
occupation then you will not have an IDET=47.  This drop down list will, for
you, not occur.
This is exactly what I meant by it being at the discretion of the user.
If you use it, then it populates with values you have previously used.  This
you can add to with a new value or use again so as to standardise your
Occupation description.
Alan

-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: 11 February 2012 12:57
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

Alan,

Whilst that may well work for you, it will not work for me because (a) I do
not have an IDER value of 47, and (b) the way I use that Events is clearly
very different to that used by yourself. In other words, for many (most?)
people it will give totally stupid result. I cannot think of anyway of doing
this where the method of using a function is at the discretion of the user.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


-Original Message-
From: Alan Pereira
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 11:27 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

Brian, Yes I am suggesting the drop down on the Event Description but only
where the Event Fact is Occupation A drop down list can be popluated
dynamically from a query on the existing tables, the query being SELECT
distinct tblER.Description FROM tblER WHERE (((tblER.IDET)=47)); with the
requisite order by The table solution could be provided by population from
the above query on opening the database if response times become an issue.
I have used the query approach on many applications where the populated size
of the table is low (less than 500,000 rows).  As IDET is an indexed field I
am sure dynamic drop down list is a valid option.
Alan

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: 11 February 2012 05:13
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

Alan,

There is no Occupation Description field where your suggestion could be
applied. In Legacy Occupation is an event.

If you are suggesting that the Event Description field have an autocomplete
and drop down list option, that would require a database table be linked to
that field. Since Occupation is only one of the many event names in the
Event Master List I do not think you can link a database table to the
description only when the Event name selected is Occupation and not have it
linked for all the other Events.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!
When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
Thanks.

On 10/02/2012 12:23 PM, Alan Pereira wrote:
 Maybe a worthwhile option would be for the Occupation Description
 field to display a drop down list of occupations that you have already
 added such that as you started to type in the field the list reduced
 down.  This type of functionality is possible in MSAccess forms so
 should be just as easy to produce in Legacy.

 It would allow you to standardise within  your own database without
 affecting the base functionality of Legacy.

 Alan





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RE: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

2012-02-11 Thread Alan Pereira
Ron, the IDET of 51 is used for Probate
Alan

-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: 11 February 2012 15:00
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

Alan,

I do have an Event/Fact Occupation. However its IDET has a value of 51.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


-Original Message-
From: Alan Pereira
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:19 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

Ron, you have answered your own comment.  If you do not use the event Fact 
occupation then you will not have an IDET=47.  This drop down list will, for 
you, not occur.
This is exactly what I meant by it being at the discretion of the user.
If you use it, then it populates with values you have previously used.  This 
you can add to with a new value or use again so as to standardise your 
Occupation description.
Alan

-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: 11 February 2012 12:57
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

Alan,

Whilst that may well work for you, it will not work for me because (a) I do not 
have an IDER value of 47, and (b) the way I use that Events is clearly very 
different to that used by yourself. In other words, for many (most?) people it 
will give totally stupid result. I cannot think of anyway of doing this where 
the method of using a function is at the discretion of the user.

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/


-Original Message-
From: Alan Pereira
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 11:27 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

Brian, Yes I am suggesting the drop down on the Event Description but only 
where the Event Fact is Occupation A drop down list can be popluated 
dynamically from a query on the existing tables, the query being SELECT 
distinct tblER.Description FROM tblER WHERE (((tblER.IDET)=47)); with the 
requisite order by The table solution could be provided by population from the 
above query on opening the database if response times become an issue.
I have used the query approach on many applications where the populated size of 
the table is low (less than 500,000 rows).  As IDET is an indexed field I am 
sure dynamic drop down list is a valid option.
Alan

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: 11 February 2012 05:13
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

Alan,

There is no Occupation Description field where your suggestion could be 
applied. In Legacy Occupation is an event.

If you are suggesting that the Event Description field have an autocomplete and 
drop down list option, that would require a database table be linked to that 
field. Since Occupation is only one of the many event names in the Event Master 
List I do not think you can link a database table to the description only when 
the Event name selected is Occupation and not have it linked for all the other 
Events.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!
When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
Thanks.

On 10/02/2012 12:23 PM, Alan Pereira wrote:
 Maybe a worthwhile option would be for the Occupation Description
 field to display a drop down list of occupations that you have already
 added such that as you started to type in the field the list reduced
 down.  This type of functionality is possible in MSAccess forms so
 should be just as easy to produce in Legacy.

 It would allow you to standardise within  your own database without
 affecting the base functionality of Legacy.

 Alan





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Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

2012-02-11 Thread Mike Fry
On 2012/02/10 12:37, Alan Pereira wrote:

 SELECT distinct tblER.Description FROM tblER WHERE (((tblER.IDET)=47));

In my family file, this selects one type of Event/Fact with two entries. The
Event was one that I created myself and labelled as Military Service. So as Ron
said, you can't generalise this for everyone.

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Mike Fry
Johannesburg


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Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

2012-02-11 Thread Ron Ferguson
Thank you Dennis ;-)

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Dennis M. Kowallek
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:52 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:44:55 -, Alan Pereira
alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

Ron, the IDET of 51 is used for Probate

Alan, the IDETs are not hard coded. Every database could be different.
Not that it really matters because one can find the Occupation master
event via a join.

--

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RE: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

2012-02-11 Thread Alan Pereira
My Apologies to all for not understanding the nature of the IDET code.
As Dennis says, a join is required to establish the, so the query to support a 
drop down list becomes...

SELECT DISTINCT tblER.Description FROM tblET INNER JOIN tblER ON tblET.IDET = 
tblER.IDET WHERE (((tblET.EventType)=Occupation)) ORDER BY tblER.Description



Thank you Dennis for correcting my understanding of these tables.

Alan

-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: 11 February 2012 16:07
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

Thank you Dennis ;-)

Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk/

-Original Message-
From: Dennis M. Kowallek
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:52 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:44:55 -, Alan Pereira
alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

Ron, the IDET of 51 is used for Probate

Alan, the IDETs are not hard coded. Every database could be different.
Not that it really matters because one can find the Occupation master event via 
a join.

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Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

2012-02-11 Thread Brian/Support
And the Occupation would have to be changed for each of the
Non-English versions of Legacy since the Event names change with the
languages.

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On 11/02/2012 11:38 AM, Alan Pereira wrote:
 My Apologies to all for not understanding the nature of the IDET code.
 As Dennis says, a join is required to establish the, so the query to support 
 a drop down list becomes...

 SELECT DISTINCT tblER.Description FROM tblET INNER JOIN tblER ON tblET.IDET = 
 tblER.IDET WHERE (((tblET.EventType)=Occupation)) ORDER BY tblER.Description



 Thank you Dennis for correcting my understanding of these tables.

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RE: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

2012-02-10 Thread cr brassfield

Hi Everyone
I was looking to have a master list like 'locations' that would show me all the 
individuals I had entered who did a specific job compiled from data I had 
already entered under 'occupation'. There are a number of research advantages 
to such a list. Just a couple = If like me you have families continually giving 
children same names but they follow different profession then if you get an 
apprenticeship record or occupation details in a source it's easier to locate 
correct person.Helps track families' life-style and migration if they have done 
work affected by industrialisation and other changes. Useful for looking in 
sources you might not otherwise consider. I have often found links to how they 
met future spouses in this way.
Carol


Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 19:26:25 -0800
From: paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com



Jenny, WOW!!!How did you figure out how to do all that??  ;)
I think maybe the OP was wanting a drop-down list of occupations to select from 
when entering... I don't know... a new field for the individual?
However, your approach did point out to me the MANY ways I have been entering 
data for an Occupation event over the years!  Oh dear, I see another clean-up 
task on my horizon! ;)Thanks,
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman 
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field 
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle 
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters
 Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams

From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thu, February 9, 2012 10:26:00 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST


On 09/02/2012 13:21, cr brassfield wrote:
 Is there some way I can create an 'Occupations' list.

Try this, it works but the result might not be exactly how you'd like it.

First, open the Event Definitions Master List, select Occupation and
click Show List.  Now click the Create Search List button and click
Create New List.  Click Close, then Close again and a message will
appear asking if you want to show the results.  Click OK and the list
will appear as a Name List.

Now click print and select the fields to appear on your Report.  You
will want at least Surname, Given names so check the box next to that
and click the Options button next to Optional Fields.  On the next
screen, click one of the buttons with 3 dots on next to a field you
*don't* want and select Event from the resulting list.  Select
Occupation from the next list.  Click Close and then check the box
 next
to Event: Occupation.

Nearly there!

No click Preview and see if you are happy with the results.  You can
make some small alterations to the layout before printing if you want.

--
Jenny M Benson


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Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

2012-02-10 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 10/02/2012 03:26, Paula Ryburn wrote:
 How did you figure out how to do all that??  ;)

Started by wondering if a specific Event was one of the fields one could
select to display in a print-out of the Name List.  When I discovered it
was, I went back to work out how to get the right Names in the list -
was thinking it might involve tagging, but it didn't, of course.

 I think maybe the OP was wanting a drop-down list of occupations to
 select from when entering... I don't know... a new field for the individual?

I can think of 2 reasons for that being impractical.  For one, there are
just far too many occupations.  Secondly, what would you do about
someone who had 2, 3 or more occupations over their lifetime?


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RE: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

2012-02-10 Thread Alan Pereira
There is another way if you know how to use MSACCESS
Change the fdb extension to mdb
open in MSAccess
Create the following query in sql view

SELECT distinct tblER.Description FROM tblER WHERE (((tblER.IDET)=47));

Display the results and copy paste into Excel as your master Occupations List
Do not save the query
close MSAccess
Rename back from mdb to fdb

Alan Pereira



-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
Sent: 09 February 2012 16:26
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

On 09/02/2012 13:21, cr brassfield wrote:
 Is there some way I can create an 'Occupations' list.

Try this, it works but the result might not be exactly how you'd like it.

First, open the Event Definitions Master List, select Occupation and click Show 
List.  Now click the Create Search List button and click Create New List.  
Click Close, then Close again and a message will appear asking if you want to 
show the results.  Click OK and the list will appear as a Name List.

Now click print and select the fields to appear on your Report.  You will want 
at least Surname, Given names so check the box next to that and click the 
Options button next to Optional Fields.  On the next screen, click one of the 
buttons with 3 dots on next to a field you
*don't* want and select Event from the resulting list.  Select Occupation from 
the next list.  Click Close and then check the box next to Event: Occupation.

Nearly there!

No click Preview and see if you are happy with the results.  You can make some 
small alterations to the layout before printing if you want.

--
Jenny M Benson


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Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

2012-02-10 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 10/02/2012 10:37, Alan Pereira wrote:
 There is another way if you know how to use MSACCESS
 Change the fdb extension to mdb
 open in MSAccess
 Create the following query in sql view

 SELECT distinct tblER.Description FROM tblER WHERE (((tblER.IDET)=47));

 Display the results and copy paste into Excel as your master Occupations List
 Do not save the query
 close MSAccess
 Rename back from mdb to fdb

Except, as I have pointed out before, there is no need to rename your
.fdb file.  Access is quite happy to open *.fdb files.  It saves a
couple of steps.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

2012-02-10 Thread M. Brenzel
There is no need to change the extension of the file to mdb.  I just 
right-click on the fdb file, select Open with and Microsoft Access .

Of course, before doing anything with your database outside of Legacy, make a 
backup copy!

Mary

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On Feb 10, 2012, at 5:37 AM, Alan Pereira alanpere...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

 There is another way if you know how to use MSACCESS
 Change the fdb extension to mdb
 open in MSAccess
 Create the following query in sql view

 SELECT distinct tblER.Description FROM tblER WHERE (((tblER.IDET)=47));

 Display the results and copy paste into Excel as your master Occupations List
 Do not save the query
 close MSAccess
 Rename back from mdb to fdb

 Alan Pereira



 -Original Message-
 From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk]
 Sent: 09 February 2012 16:26
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

 On 09/02/2012 13:21, cr brassfield wrote:
 Is there some way I can create an 'Occupations' list.

 Try this, it works but the result might not be exactly how you'd like it.

 First, open the Event Definitions Master List, select Occupation and click 
 Show List.  Now click the Create Search List button and click Create New 
 List.  Click Close, then Close again and a message will appear asking if you 
 want to show the results.  Click OK and the list will appear as a Name List.

 Now click print and select the fields to appear on your Report.  You will 
 want at least Surname, Given names so check the box next to that and click 
 the Options button next to Optional Fields.  On the next screen, click one of 
 the buttons with 3 dots on next to a field you
 *don't* want and select Event from the resulting list.  Select Occupation 
 from the next list.  Click Close and then check the box next to Event: 
 Occupation.

 Nearly there!

 No click Preview and see if you are happy with the results.  You can make 
 some small alterations to the layout before printing if you want.

 --
 Jenny M Benson


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Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

2012-02-10 Thread Paula Ryburn
I agree with you on the impracticality of a master list of occupations.  I think
nearly all the occupations I have came from US census listings, and it's not
like those enumerators had a standard list they used.  The reporting method you
provided is enough for me, should I need to examine my file for particular
occupations.  I think the only really standard one I have is farmer ;)
 --Paula





From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, February 10, 2012 4:35:03 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

On 10/02/2012 03:26, Paula Ryburn wrote:
 How did you figure out how to do all that??  ;)

Started by wondering if a specific Event was one of the fields one could
select to display in a print-out of the Name List.  When I discovered it
was, I went back to work out how to get the right Names in the list -
was thinking it might involve tagging, but it didn't, of course.

 I think maybe the OP was wanting a drop-down list of occupations to
 select from when entering... I don't know... a new field for the individual?

I can think of 2 reasons for that being impractical.  For one, there are
just far too many occupations.  Secondly, what would you do about
someone who had 2, 3 or more occupations over their lifetime?


--
Jenny M Benson

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RE: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

2012-02-10 Thread Alan Pereira
Maybe a worthwhile option would be for the Occupation Description field to 
display a drop down list of occupations that you have already added such that 
as you started to type in the field the list reduced down.  This type of 
functionality is possible in MSAccess forms so should be just as easy to 
produce in Legacy.

It would allow you to standardise within  your own database without affecting 
the base functionality of Legacy.

Alan



From: Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: 10 February 2012 16:36
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST



I agree with you on the impracticality of a master list of occupations.  I 
think nearly all the occupations I have came from US census listings, and it's 
not like those enumerators had a standard list they used.  The reporting method 
you provided is enough for me, should I need to examine my file for particular 
occupations.  I think the only really standard one I have is farmer ;)


--Paula





  _

From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Fri, February 10, 2012 4:35:03 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

On 10/02/2012 03:26, Paula Ryburn wrote:
 How did you figure out how to do all that??  ;)

Started by wondering if a specific Event was one of the fields one could
select to display in a print-out of the Name List.  When I discovered it
was, I went back to work out how to get the right Names in the list -
was thinking it might involve tagging, but it didn't, of course.

 I think maybe the OP was wanting a drop-down list of occupations to
 select from when entering... I don't know... a new field for the individual?

I can think of 2 reasons for that being impractical.  For one, there are
just far too many occupations.  Secondly, what would you do about
someone who had 2, 3 or more occupations over their lifetime?


--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

2012-02-10 Thread Sherry/Support
There are two ways you can create a report like this:

1. Click on the Reports icon, select the Books/Other tab and then the
Event report. You can create a report on one specific event type for
any or all persons.

2. Create a Name List or Search List report.  Bring up the Name List
or your Search List, click on Print and add up to 30 fields of data
(in the Deluxe) to the report.

You can search for all people who were grocers by clicking on the
Search icon, selecting the Detailed Search tab and do the following
search:

Look for whom?   Individuial
Where to look  Event Description
How to look Contains
What to look for  Grocer



Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:08 AM, cr brassfield
crbrassfi...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone

 I was looking to have a master list like 'locations' that would show me all
 the individuals I had entered who did a specific job compiled from data I
 had already entered under 'occupation'. There are a number of research
 advantages to such a list. Just a couple =
  If like me you have families continually giving children same names but
 they follow different profession then if you get an apprenticeship record or
 occupation details in a source it's easier to locate correct person.
 Helps track families' life-style and migration if they have done work
 affected by industrialisation and other changes. Useful for looking in
 sources you might not otherwise consider. I have often found links to how
 they met future spouses in this way.

 Carol


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Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

2012-02-10 Thread Brian/Support
Alan,

There is no Occupation Description field where your suggestion could
be applied. In Legacy Occupation is an event.

If you are suggesting that the Event Description field have an
autocomplete and drop down list option, that would require a database
table be linked to that field. Since Occupation is only one of the many
event names in the Event Master List I do not think you can link a
database table to the description only when the Event name selected is
Occupation and not have it linked for all the other Events.

Brian
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On 10/02/2012 12:23 PM, Alan Pereira wrote:
 Maybe a worthwhile option would be for the Occupation Description field to 
 display a drop down list of occupations that you have already added such that 
 as you started to type in the field the list reduced down.  This type of 
 functionality is possible in MSAccess forms so should be just as easy to 
 produce in Legacy.

 It would allow you to standardise within  your own database without affecting 
 the base functionality of Legacy.

 Alan


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RE: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

2012-02-10 Thread Mike Bridgeford
Hi Alan,
I use the 'title suf', after the person's name to record the person's main 
occupation in square brackets. For example, mine would be Michael Angus 
Bridgeford [mech.engineer]. It may not be sortable, but it give me a very quick 
and ready guide to a person's main occupation, which helps with the 
identification of other information relevant to him. I do not normally put in 
the female's occupation, unless it is relevant.
Regards,
Mike bridgeford

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: 11 February 2012 07:13 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

Alan,

There is no Occupation Description field where your suggestion could
be applied. In Legacy Occupation is an event.

If you are suggesting that the Event Description field have an
autocomplete and drop down list option, that would require a database
table be linked to that field. Since Occupation is only one of the many
event names in the Event Master List I do not think you can link a
database table to the description only when the Event name selected is
Occupation and not have it linked for all the other Events.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

We are changing the world of genealogy!
When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence.
Thanks.

On 10/02/2012 12:23 PM, Alan Pereira wrote:
 Maybe a worthwhile option would be for the Occupation Description field to 
 display a drop down list of occupations that you have already added such that 
 as you started to type in the field the list reduced down.  This type of 
 functionality is possible in MSAccess forms so should be just as easy to 
 produce in Legacy.

 It would allow you to standardise within  your own database without affecting 
 the base functionality of Legacy.

 Alan


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Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

2012-02-09 Thread Mike Fry
On 2012/02/09 15:21, cr brassfield wrote:
 Is there some way I can create an 'Occupations' list.

 A couple of years ago I sent it as a suggestion for a master list but nothing
 has happened.

No such table in the database yet. That's what it needs. At the moment,
Occupations can only be a fact/event.

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Mike Fry
Johannesburg


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Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

2012-02-09 Thread Paula Ryburn
Jenny, WOW!!!
How did you figure out how to do all that??  ;)

I think maybe the OP was wanting a drop-down list of occupations to select from
when entering... I don't know... a new field for the individual?

However, your approach did point out to me the MANY ways I have been entering
data for an Occupation event over the years!  Oh dear, I see another clean-up
task on my horizon! ;)
Thanks,
 --Paula in Texas
Researching:  Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman
Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field
Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle
Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn
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From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thu, February 9, 2012 10:26:00 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] OCCUPATIONS LIST

On 09/02/2012 13:21, cr brassfield wrote:
 Is there some way I can create an 'Occupations' list.

Try this, it works but the result might not be exactly how you'd like it.

First, open the Event Definitions Master List, select Occupation and
click Show List.  Now click the Create Search List button and click
Create New List.  Click Close, then Close again and a message will
appear asking if you want to show the results.  Click OK and the list
will appear as a Name List.

Now click print and select the fields to appear on your Report.  You
will want at least Surname, Given names so check the box next to that
and click the Options button next to Optional Fields.  On the next
screen, click one of the buttons with 3 dots on next to a field you
*don't* want and select Event from the resulting list.  Select
Occupation from the next list.  Click Close and then check the box next
to Event: Occupation.

Nearly there!

No click Preview and see if you are happy with the results.  You can
make some small alterations to the layout before printing if you want.

--
Jenny M Benson


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