Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-31 Thread Greg Schafer
Dan Nicholson wrote:

 I would like to allow glibc-2.5.1 through a freeze if it happens. That
 should be safe since we've been moving the snapshot along.

New Glibc's are now up.

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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-31 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 7/31/07, Greg Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dan Nicholson wrote:

  I would like to allow glibc-2.5.1 through a freeze if it happens. That
  should be safe since we've been moving the snapshot along.

 New Glibc's are now up.

Thanks, Greg. Was there no announcement?

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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-24 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
 I guess I can do it again.  Most of the stuff is mechanical.  We'd need
 to decide on a package freeze.  Right now there are a total of 16 open

Can we cut trunk to a release/testing/6.3 branch so that we can begin 
doing 7.0 type work on trunk?

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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-24 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
 Bruce Dubbs wrote:
 I guess I can do it again.  Most of the stuff is mechanical.  We'd need
 to decide on a package freeze.  Right now there are a total of 16 open
 
 Can we cut trunk to a release/testing/6.3 branch so that we can begin 
 doing 7.0 type work on trunk?

I tagged 6.3-rc1.  I also added 7.0 to the wiki milestones and 6.3-rc1
and 7.0 to the versions for tickets.

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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-24 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
 I tagged 6.3-rc1.  I also added 7.0 to the wiki milestones and 6.3-rc1
 and 7.0 to the versions for tickets.

Thanks. :)

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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-23 Thread M.Canales.es
El Lunes, 23 de Julio de 2007 20:49, Dan Nicholson escribió:

 That doesn't say too much. OK, looking at postix/test-vfork3.c, I
 think I see the issue. At that point it does 'unsetenv (PATH);' and
 then tries to execute echo. For this to work, we need to have echo
 in /bin, which we don't at that point. If /bin/echo - /tools/bin/echo
 is added to the Essential Symlinks, I bet it will pass. Can you give
 that a try?

Yes, it passes, included using -j3 ;-) 

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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-23 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 7/23/07, M.Canales.es [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 El Lunes, 23 de Julio de 2007 20:49, Dan Nicholson escribió:

  That doesn't say too much. OK, looking at postix/test-vfork3.c, I
  think I see the issue. At that point it does 'unsetenv (PATH);' and
  then tries to execute echo. For this to work, we need to have echo
  in /bin, which we don't at that point. If /bin/echo - /tools/bin/echo
  is added to the Essential Symlinks, I bet it will pass. Can you give
  that a try?

 Yes, it passes, included using -j3 ;-)

OK. I'm adding echo and noting that nptl/tst-cancel1 is known to fail.

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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-22 Thread M.Canales.es
El Jueves, 19 de Julio de 2007 00:13, Matthew Burgess escribió:

 I did a full final system testsuite run with the latest package updates
 (including a repackaged version of the latest iproute2 package).  No
 failures there.  I've not done an ICA/farce build though, so that would
 certainly be useful.

ICA/farce reports that the next files differ on iteration1Viteration2 but not 
in iteration2Viteration3:

/etc/ld.so.cache
/usr/include/c++/4.1.2/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bits/stdc++.h.gch/0{0,2}g.gch
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/cc1
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/cc1plus

The cc1{,plus} differ was reported some time ago, but the issue was not 
resoled:

http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2007-February/059028.html

The build has been done on a new AMD64 machine using Ubuntu-6.06.1 (linux 
2.6.15-28-k7 SMP PREEMPT) as host.

Glibc testsuite sow this errors in iteration1:

posix/tst-vfork3.out
nptl/tst-cancell.out

but iteration{2,3} show only:

nptl/tst-cancell.out

Binutils and GCC testsuites are identical on all iterations.


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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-22 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 7/22/07, M.Canales.es [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 El Jueves, 19 de Julio de 2007 00:13, Matthew Burgess escribió:

  I did a full final system testsuite run with the latest package updates
  (including a repackaged version of the latest iproute2 package).  No
  failures there.  I've not done an ICA/farce build though, so that would
  certainly be useful.

 ICA/farce reports that the next files differ on iteration1Viteration2 but not
 in iteration2Viteration3:

 /etc/ld.so.cache
 /usr/include/c++/4.1.2/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bits/stdc++.h.gch/0{0,2}g.gch
 /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/cc1
 /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/cc1plus

 The cc1{,plus} differ was reported some time ago, but the issue was not
 resoled:

 http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2007-February/059028.html

Yeah, those look normal. I think you can get the cc1 and cc1plus
differences to go away if you strip at build time. I.e., `make
LDFLAGS=-s'.

 Glibc testsuite sow this errors in iteration1:

 posix/tst-vfork3.out
 nptl/tst-cancell.out

 but iteration{2,3} show only:

 nptl/tst-cancell.out

I don't know about tst-vfork3, but tst-cancel1 will fail on gcc-4.1.

http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2007-July/059606.html

Do you still have the output from tst-vfork3?

Thanks, Manuel.

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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-22 Thread M.Canales.es
El Domingo, 22 de Julio de 2007 20:15, Dan Nicholson escribió:


 Do you still have the output from tst-vfork3?


Do you meant the log output on the posix/tst-vfork3.out file?

If the later, I will need to do a new build but stopping it before Glibc 
sources and build directory deletion. 

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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-18 Thread Dejan Čabrilo
On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 13:56 -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote:
 I'm pretty much in that boat :) I'll be out of town the July 25-30,
 but I'll be more than happy to give time when I can. I think we can
 pretty much push a package freeze right now and cut a branch. The only
 thing I'd be interested in seeing is glibc-2.5.1 if it happens. Also,
 I have a couple previously mentioned bootscript patches that I'd like
 to push in. Those are low priority, though.

Without trying to sound ungrateful to people working on LFS: what about
GCC 4.2? Any chance of seeing it in LFS any time soon?

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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-18 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 7/18/07, Dejan Čabrilo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 13:56 -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote:
  I'm pretty much in that boat :) I'll be out of town the July 25-30,
  but I'll be more than happy to give time when I can. I think we can
  pretty much push a package freeze right now and cut a branch. The only
  thing I'd be interested in seeing is glibc-2.5.1 if it happens. Also,
  I have a couple previously mentioned bootscript patches that I'd like
  to push in. Those are low priority, though.

 Without trying to sound ungrateful to people working on LFS: what about
 GCC 4.2? Any chance of seeing it in LFS any time soon?

Yes, but after 6.3. It's a rather large change that requires testing,
so it'll have to wait until after the release. The sooner 6.3 is
pushed out, the sooner we can start upgrading to gcc-4.2 and
glibc-2.6.

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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-18 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 7/17/07, Dan Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 7/17/07, Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   What do your bootscript patches do, and how do you view their risk
  ?

 Should be backwards compatible. A couple I have queued up but keep
 forgetting to commit them. Add an early script to quiet the kernel log
 level, then kill the level handling in init.d/modules.

 http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2007-June/059501.html

 Second one would kill this bug:

 http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/ticket/2026

As warned previously, I've added a new script to set the printk level
on the console: init.d/consolelog. This is linked at
rcsysinit.d/S02consolelog. It reads the LOGLEVEL variable from
/etc/sysconfig/console. I added a blurb in chapter07/console.xml about
this. Holler if you have any problems. Here's the commit.

http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-book/2007-July/021153.html

I also committed another change to clean up the modules script, which
parses /etc/sysconfig/modules. There should be no change in behavior.

http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-book/2007-July/021154.html

If these seem alright, I'll spin a new lfs-bootscripts snapshot.

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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-18 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 07:57:08PM -0600, Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 12:50:45AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote:
   I was going to say 'yes' to a package freeze (and if glibc-2.5.1
  appears in a timely fashion you can knock me down with the proverbial
  feather!), except that (a) ISTR you weren't very confident about
  linux-2.6.21 (you quoted Dave Jones's comments, I think) and indeed
  Linus found its release somewhat painful, and (b) 2.6.22.1 is out
  (WFM!) and might last a little bit longer (by the time 6.3 comes out,
  2.6.21 is unlikely to still be maintained).
 
 Matt seems to have solved this bit already. See
 http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/changeset/8219
 
 Thanks, I hadn't seen an update on -book so I checked the online
version and it was a few hours out of date.

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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-18 Thread M.Canales.es
El Miércoles, 18 de Julio de 2007 02:49, Bruce Dubbs escribió:


 What do you want for a target release date?  I would think we could get
 a -rc1 out in a week if we don't make any changes to the tool chain.

Looks good.

I will start some ICA/farce and full-testsuites builds.

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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-18 Thread Matthew Burgess
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:55:50 +0200, M.Canales.es [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I will start some ICA/farce and full-testsuites builds.

I did a full final system testsuite run with the latest package updates 
(including a repackaged version of the latest iproute2 package).  No failures 
there.  I've not done an ICA/farce build though, so that would certainly be 
useful.

Thanks,

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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-18 Thread DJ Lucas
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
 Dan Nicholson wrote:

   
 Fixing pidofproc to actually do the right thing w.r.t pid files.
 Dennis Perkins actually put that part together. The other change he
 does there is make the pid list local and echo it back. This is
 slightly different and possibly not backwards compatible since the
 current behavior has the other *proc() functions just using the global
 pidlist variable created in pidofproc.

 I prefer Dennis' way and can fix the functions to catch the result in
 it's own variable, but it could break existing scripts which call
 pidofproc directly. In most cases, though, pidofproc is being called
 indirectly through loadproc or statusproc. 
 

 I did a grep of the bootscripts in both BLFS and LFS and the only files
 that mention pidofproc are:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/LFS/trunk/bootscripts]$ grep -rl pidofproc *|grep -v svn
 ChangeLog
 contrib/lsb/lib/init-functions
 contrib/lsb-v3/lsb/init-functions
 contrib/lsb-v3/init.d/lfs-functions
 contrib/lsb-v3/init.d/template
 lfs/init.d/functions

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/BLFS/trunk/bootscripts]$ grep -r pidofproc *|grep -v svn
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/BLFS/trunk/bootscripts]$

 So if these files are all made consistent, there shouldn't be any problem.

 As far as user's custom scripts go, I'd think a prudent user would check
 them all when upgrading to a new version of LFS.

   -- Bruce
   
Well, the contrib/ versions shouldn't even be considered.  They provide
their own pidofproc() anyway, which already has this change because the
spec says so.  So the patch is a go already as far as anything within
the LFS and BLFS.  Another consideration is whether CH are still using
the same/similar functions file and scripts.

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Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-17 Thread Matthew Burgess
Hi guys,

For some reason, my responses to the existing thread regarding a 6.3 release 
haven't made it through to the list.  Hopefully this one does!

I agree with the fact that LFS-6.3 is long overdue.  In order to see this gets 
done sooner rather than later, I think it only fair I pass on the release 
management hat to a willing volunteer, as I can't see my personal time freeing 
up any time soon.  I think current trunk is in a pretty good state, and the
number of outstanding bugs targeted for the 6.3 release is manageable.

So, does anyone here want to wrestle this release into submission?

Thanks,

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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-17 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 02:28:31PM -0600, Matthew Burgess wrote:
 So, does anyone here want to wrestle this release into submission?

I'm willing to be a wing-man. :) I'll do what I can to help, but I doubt
I have enough free time to tackle it all alone. A release comittee/group
might be a good idea for 6.3 since it seems that most of us are in a
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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-17 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 7/17/07, Jeremy Huntwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 02:28:31PM -0600, Matthew Burgess wrote:
  So, does anyone here want to wrestle this release into submission?

 I'm willing to be a wing-man. :) I'll do what I can to help, but I doubt
 I have enough free time to tackle it all alone. A release comittee/group
 might be a good idea for 6.3 since it seems that most of us are in a
 similar boat time-wise.

I'm pretty much in that boat :) I'll be out of town the July 25-30,
but I'll be more than happy to give time when I can. I think we can
pretty much push a package freeze right now and cut a branch. The only
thing I'd be interested in seeing is glibc-2.5.1 if it happens. Also,
I have a couple previously mentioned bootscript patches that I'd like
to push in. Those are low priority, though.

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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-17 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 01:56:57PM -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote:
 
 I'm pretty much in that boat :) I'll be out of town the July 25-30,
 but I'll be more than happy to give time when I can. I think we can
 pretty much push a package freeze right now and cut a branch. The only
 thing I'd be interested in seeing is glibc-2.5.1 if it happens. Also,
 I have a couple previously mentioned bootscript patches that I'd like
 to push in. Those are low priority, though.
 
 Like everybody else, I'm lacking time.  But we do need to get
something less-old released.  In my case, my limited testing will
probably be concentrating on ppc64 for clfs (still trying to find a
version of gcc-4.2 which works).  And I'm hoping to go on holiday
at very short notice.  But I can hopefully build a current LFS in the
next week (I'd pencilled in a 'bleeding edge' build with gcc-4.2 and
glibc-2.6+, but that can wait if we are going to make a release).

 I was going to say 'yes' to a package freeze (and if glibc-2.5.1
appears in a timely fashion you can knock me down with the proverbial
feather!), except that (a) ISTR you weren't very confident about
linux-2.6.21 (you quoted Dave Jones's comments, I think) and indeed
Linus found its release somewhat painful, and (b) 2.6.22.1 is out
(WFM!) and might last a little bit longer (by the time 6.3 comes out,
2.6.21 is unlikely to still be maintained).

 What do your bootscript patches do, and how do you view their risk
?

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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matthew Burgess wrote:
 Hi guys,
 
 For some reason, my responses to the existing thread regarding a 6.3
 release haven't made it through to the list.  Hopefully this one
 does!
 
 I agree with the fact that LFS-6.3 is long overdue.  In order to see
 this gets done sooner rather than later, I think it only fair I pass
 on the release management hat to a willing volunteer, as I can't see
 my personal time freeing up any time soon.  I think current trunk is
 in a pretty good state, and the number of outstanding bugs targeted
 for the 6.3 release is manageable.
 
 So, does anyone here want to wrestle this release into submission?

I guess I can do it again.  Most of the stuff is mechanical.  We'd need
to decide on a package freeze.  Right now there are a total of 16 open
tickets, but only 5 are assigned to 6.3.  Of these, the iproute ticket
could either be moved to future or we could send a message to the devs
and ask them to repackage the app.  I haven't looked into the others in
any detail.

Just as a comparison, there were a total of 126 tickets worked for 6.2
and there are a total of 157 (5 open) for 6.3.

What do you want for a target release date?  I would think we could get
a -rc1 out in a week if we don't make any changes to the tool chain.

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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-17 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 12:50:45AM +0100, Ken Moffat wrote:
  I was going to say 'yes' to a package freeze (and if glibc-2.5.1
 appears in a timely fashion you can knock me down with the proverbial
 feather!), except that (a) ISTR you weren't very confident about
 linux-2.6.21 (you quoted Dave Jones's comments, I think) and indeed
 Linus found its release somewhat painful, and (b) 2.6.22.1 is out
 (WFM!) and might last a little bit longer (by the time 6.3 comes out,
 2.6.21 is unlikely to still be maintained).

Matt seems to have solved this bit already. See
http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/changeset/8219

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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-17 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 07:49:20PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
 Just as a comparison, there were a total of 126 tickets worked for 6.2
 and there are a total of 157 (5 open) for 6.3.

Well, it seems a good time for a package freeze then, especially after
Matt brought us up to speed with several packages today. It seems that
everyone is generally agreed on that point, so shall we call it
official?

I'll just see if there isn't a ticket I can take on now...

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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-17 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 7/17/07, Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  What do your bootscript patches do, and how do you view their risk
 ?

Should be backwards compatible. A couple I have queued up but keep
forgetting to commit them. Add an early script to quiet the kernel log
level, then kill the level handling in init.d/modules.

http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2007-June/059501.html

Second one would kill this bug:

http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/ticket/2026

Two other things I haven't done, but would like to (meaning, I may
punt for now since I haven't tested). Support for IP
aliasing/labelling:

http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2007-June/059442.html

Fixing pidofproc to actually do the right thing w.r.t pid files.
Dennis Perkins actually put that part together. The other change he
does there is make the pid list local and echo it back. This is
slightly different and possibly not backwards compatible since the
current behavior has the other *proc() functions just using the global
pidlist variable created in pidofproc.

I prefer Dennis' way and can fix the functions to catch the result in
it's own variable, but it could break existing scripts which call
pidofproc directly. In most cases, though, pidofproc is being called
indirectly through loadproc or statusproc. The difference is this:

current:
pidofproc -s $1 # creates pidlist
for pid in $pidlist; do
...

new:
pids=$(pidofproc -s $1) # pidlist is local to pidofproc
for pid in $pids; do
...

http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-support/2007-July/033304.html

That may be able to be split into two parts since the pid file
handling is a bug and should be safe to fix.

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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-17 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 7/17/07, Jeremy Huntwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 07:49:20PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
  Just as a comparison, there were a total of 126 tickets worked for 6.2
  and there are a total of 157 (5 open) for 6.3.

 Well, it seems a good time for a package freeze then, especially after
 Matt brought us up to speed with several packages today. It seems that
 everyone is generally agreed on that point, so shall we call it
 official?

I would like to allow glibc-2.5.1 through a freeze if it happens. That
should be safe since we've been moving the snapshot along.

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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-17 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 07:16:20PM -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote:
 I would like to allow glibc-2.5.1 through a freeze if it happens. That
 should be safe since we've been moving the snapshot along.

Duly noted. And I don't see why that wouldn't be fine. Especially as
once we clear up the remaining tickets we'll probably be asking everyone
to run some builds through jhalfs and verify the results. Hopefully
we'll have enough testers that adding 2.5.1 won't cause a major delay.

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Re: Plans for LFS-6.3

2007-07-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dan Nicholson wrote:

 Fixing pidofproc to actually do the right thing w.r.t pid files.
 Dennis Perkins actually put that part together. The other change he
 does there is make the pid list local and echo it back. This is
 slightly different and possibly not backwards compatible since the
 current behavior has the other *proc() functions just using the global
 pidlist variable created in pidofproc.
 
 I prefer Dennis' way and can fix the functions to catch the result in
 it's own variable, but it could break existing scripts which call
 pidofproc directly. In most cases, though, pidofproc is being called
 indirectly through loadproc or statusproc. 

I did a grep of the bootscripts in both BLFS and LFS and the only files
that mention pidofproc are:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]/LFS/trunk/bootscripts]$ grep -rl pidofproc *|grep -v svn
ChangeLog
contrib/lsb/lib/init-functions
contrib/lsb-v3/lsb/init-functions
contrib/lsb-v3/init.d/lfs-functions
contrib/lsb-v3/init.d/template
lfs/init.d/functions

[EMAIL PROTECTED]/BLFS/trunk/bootscripts]$ grep -r pidofproc *|grep -v svn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/BLFS/trunk/bootscripts]$

So if these files are all made consistent, there shouldn't be any problem.

As far as user's custom scripts go, I'd think a prudent user would check
them all when upgrading to a new version of LFS.

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