Re: [liberationtech] Are you using 2-step verification? (Survey)
You migth want to take a look at a study I worked on while interning at PARC that looked at this issue in detail: (PDF warning) A Comparative Usability Study of Two-Factor Authentication http://www.norcie.com/papers/2fUSEC.pdf -- Greg Norcie (gnor...@indiana.edu) PhD Student, Security Informatics Indiana University On 1/27/15 9:33 PM, Robert Guerra wrote: Are you using 2-step verification? If so, a colleague is conducting a survey for you to complete :-) Details are below... Thanks in advance! regards Robert -- Robert Guerra Phone: +1 416-893-0377 Twitter: twitter.com/netfreedom Email: rgue...@privaterra.org PGP Keys : https://keybase.io/rguerra Are you using 2-step verification? (Survey) http://www.securityskeptic.com/2015/01/are-you-using-2-step-verification-survey.html Passwords play roles in many security incidents. Phishing attacks often seek to collect a target's login information for online banking, corporate or private email, network login, auction or social media sites. In these and other attacks, attackers benefit from how we rely only on a password to access an account or prove our identity. 2-step verification is a more secure form of proving your identity (who you are) than just passwords. In most 2-step verification systems, you register a trusted device with an online banking service, blog, or social media provider: this device is typically your mobile phone. When you log in to that service or social media, you verify your identity by entering both your password and a verification code that's sent to your trusted device (again, most often your mobile phone). By adding this second step, someone who learns your password for your online banking service, etc., can't impersonate your or access your accounts unless he also has your trusted device. 2-step verification is a good defense against stolen passwords. The purpose of this post - and the embedded survey - is to learn whether 2-step verification is popular, and where people are using it. A secondary purpose is to raise awareness of 2-step-verification so that more people will be encouraged to use it. Please take a few minutes to answer the six (6) questions. Share the survey with your colleagues, friends and family members, especially those who are not overly technical. The more responses, the better! Thanks in advance for your help. I hope to share results by 15 February. -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
[liberationtech] Fwd: Call for Applications (April 3 deadline) - NATO Emerging Leaders Working Group
Original Message Subject:Call for Applications (April 3 deadline) - NATO Emerging Leaders Working Group Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2014 19:47:45 -0400 The Atlantic Council is excited to announce that it is accepting applications for a working group of exceptional emerging leaders (ages 25-35) from across the NATO Alliance to recommend concrete proposals that support a renewed Trans-Atlantic Bond. NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen announced the working group today to seek input from emerging leaders in the run-up to the NATO Summit in Wales this September and has asked the Atlantic Council to facilitate this unique international and nonpartisan initiative. Following a competitive and merit-based application process, fifteen emerging leaders from NATO member countries will travel to the Atlantic Council’s Toward a Europe Whole and Free conference on April 29-May 1 in Washington, DC to meet senior leaders and begin drafting recommendations; to NATO HQ in Brussels this June to present recommendations to Alliance leaders; and – tentatively – to the NATO Summit in Wales this September. Members will have an opportunity to shape the discussions at and in the run-up to the 2014 NATO Summit and build a lasting community of peers committed to supporting a strong Trans-Atlantic bond for the twenty-first century. Applicants may include elected officials, business leaders, journalists, legislative staff, military personnel and veterans, community leaders, policy experts, government officials, and other professionals working in a field of relevance to the Trans-Atlantic bond whose leadership experience, professional expertise, and direct role in influencing policy and public opinion position them to contribute substantively to the working group and provide innovative recommendations. Please note: • Participants who have attended past Young Atlanticist Summits (in Chicago, Lisbon, Bucharest, Istanbul, and Prague) are not eligible to apply. • Members will have unique opportunities to travel and meet exceptional peers and Alliance leaders and should expect to participate fully in the events mentioned above in 2014 (the April 29-May 1 conference in DC, early June conference in Brussels, and tentatively planned Wales Summit which is scheduled for the week of September 5). The deadline to apply is April 3, 2014. To learn more and apply, please visit http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/programs/young-atlanticist-program/nato-emerging-leaders-working-group. If you have any questions, please contact Director of the Atlantic Council's Young Atlanticist Program, Jonathan Silverthorne, at jsilvertho...@atlanticcouncil.org mailto:jsilvertho...@atlanticcouncil.org ___ FellowsCareers mailing list fellowscare...@listserv.aaas.org mailto:fellowscare...@listserv.aaas.org http://listserv.aaas.org/mailman/listinfo/fellowscareers ___ The Fellows Careers listserv is intended to provide a free forum for exchange of career information among current and former AAAS Fellows only. AAAS does not monitor, sanction, or endorse the content of information exchanged through the listserv, except when posted by AAAS Fellowships staff acting in a professional capacity. Opinions or points of view expressed in a listserv message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of AAAS or the Science amp; Technology Policy Fellowships Department. -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] 15 years later, why can't Johnny still not encrypt?
The Symposium on Usable Security is an entire conference dedicated to the subject. They have their proceedings all available on their website: http://cups.cs.cmu.edu/soups/2013/program.html - Greg On 1/15/14, 5:23 AM, Anders Thoresson wrote: Hi all! When doing research on email encryption and why it's still not widely used, I've read Alma Whittens Why Johnny Can’t Encrypt: A Usability Evaluation of PGP 5.0 [1] from '99. I wonder if anyone knows of similar but more recent usability studies on encryption software? Comparing the findings made by Whittens and compare them to the software available today, not much seems to have happened. But does the conclusion still holds, that a lack of mass-adoption of email encryption is due to problematic UX – or are there other reasons that today are seen as more important? [1] – https://www.usenix.org/legacy/events/sec99/full_papers/whitten/whitten.ps Best regards, Anders Thoresson Freelance reporter and...@thoresson.net http://anders.thoresson.se http://www.dn.se/blogg/teknikbloggen http://twitter.com/thoresson -- Liberationtech is public archives are searchable on Google. Violations of list guidelines will get you moderated: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech. Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu.
Re: [liberationtech] Sociological studies of covert mass-surveillance organisations
This isn't exactly what you're looking for, but an alleged anonymous TSA
screener started a blog. I think that some of the details, such as the
fact that they allegedly have acronyms for bogus bag checks designed to
inconvenience passengers who are difficult speaks volumes.
http://boingboing.net/2012/12/21/anonymous-tsa-insider-blog.html
- Greg
On 8/31/13 2:14 AM, Luis Felipe R. Murillo wrote:
On 08/30/2013 01:54 PM, Yosem Companys wrote:
From: Caspar Bowden li...@casparbowden.net
I realize this is an improbable request (I think), but is anyone aware of
any Surveillance Studies research on the organisations conducting *
covert/secret* mass-surveillance (a securitocracy)
many thanks any pointers
I am not particularly familiar with this literature, but I know of a few
pointers.
This seminar in Brazil brought together researchers studying
surveillance and social control. They had three panels of interest
('Internet and Surveillance', 'New Technologies of Surveillance', and
'Institutional Surveillance'):
http://www2.pucpr.br/ssscla/
These two references are central in the debate (so Caspar must be super
familiar with them):
- Foucault, Michel. Discipline and Punish (redefining the debate on
the nature of power and the nature of state power):
http://www.foucault.info/documents/disciplineandpunish/foucault.disciplineandpunish.panopticism.html
- Deleuze, Gilles. Society of Control (updating Foucault's treatment
of surveillance to the contemporary 'society of control'):
http://www.nadir.org/nadir/archiv/netzkritik/societyofcontrol.html
best!
luisfelipe.
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Re: [liberationtech] Piratebrowser?
IMHO, it seems like a needless duplication of effort.
Tor alone is pretty good at circumvention. It has a couple flaws - it's
slower than a simple VPN, and obtaining bridges can be a bit of a
challenge if you're in a regime that's actively blocking access.
But the Pirate Browser doesn't seem to attempt to solve either of these
issues.
-Greg
On 8/11/13 10:14 AM, Ben Laurie wrote:
On 11 August 2013 03:39, Griffin Boyce griffinbo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 08/11/2013 12:51 AM, Tom Ritter wrote:
Some other random stats for the curious.
Tor v0.2.3.25 (git-17c24b3118224d65)
Vidalia 0.2.21 (QT 4.8.1)
# Configured for speed
ExcludeSingleHopRelays 0
EnforceDistinctSubnets 0
AllowSingleHopCircuits 1
# Exclude countries that might have blocks
ExcludeExitNodes {dk},{ie},{gb},{nl},{be},{it},{cn},{ir},{fi},{no}
#Selected user prefs
user_pref(browser.startup.homepage, http://6kkgg7nth3sbuuwd.onion;);
user_pref(general.useragent.override, PB0.6b Mozilla/5.0 (Windows
NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:23.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/23.0);
-tom
It's pretty surprising that the Pirate Bay went this route. I have a
hard time believing that it isn't just some kind of publicity stunt.
They also released the browser as an exe when the site doesn't use
SSL/https. Which is kind of an interesting choice, considering their
stated desire to target Iran (of all places).
About a year ago, I wrote a quick Chrome plugin for torrenters to
bypass the common DNS blocks on TPB and similar sites.
In the UK I thought blocks were IP-based, hence this piece of
amusement: https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2013/sky-torrentfreak-blocking.
Users from the
UK and the Netherlands (both places where they have a large userbase)
had recently been blocked from accessing TPB. I have a hard time
believing that Iran represents more than a negligible number of possible
Pirate Bay users. It could be a scheme to get more of their users to
use privacy-protecting techniques, but a guide might have more of an
effect there. If their only goal is to bypass censorship of this one
site, there are easier methods that are just as effective. The plugin I
made was trivial to write and it wouldn't be difficult for the pirate
bay to do something similar (quite a few plugins exist already, and it
wouldn't be hard to just pick one to promote).
~Griffin
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Re: [liberationtech] Internships available at leading Palo Alto tech startup
Unpaid internships are illegal actually. Unless receiving course credit from a university - then they're just morally unsound :) -- Greg Norcie (g...@norcie.com) GPG key: 0x1B873635 On 2/22/13 10:16 AM, Q. Parker wrote: A list enumerating some items which make this post objectionable: 1) Unpaid internships are wrong on a number of levels. 2) This is data-mining/graph analysis for spam. 3) Quirky should be a qualification for employment only for clinical trials. 4) The only thing this work will liberate is the will to live from fresh-faced recent grads. All in all, I'd rather bag groceries than work for a company that posts an ad like this (and here, no less). Quirkily, Q. On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 06:43:38PM -0800, Hamdan Azhar wrote: Please forward widely! --- INTERNSHIPS AVAILABLE AT LEADING SILICON VALLEY STARTUP GraphScience - a Palo Alto based venture-backed startup focusing on predictive behavioral analytics in social networks - is offering internships for college students and recent graduates. Interns will play a valuable role in building the leading social advertising platform on Facebook. Our clients are major Fortune 500 retailers and we're looking for quirky, creative, self-motivated individuals who would thrive in a fast-paced environment. Internships are unpaid and last for at least 3 months. Interested? Email us your resume, your favorite ice cream flavor, and the name of the last book you read. CONTACT: Hamdan Azhar, Lead Data Scientist, ham...@graphscience.com -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Internships available at leading Palo Alto tech startup
Sorry, my bad, I totally missed that. -- Greg Norcie (g...@norcie.com) GPG key: 0x1B873635 On 2/22/13 5:00 PM, Scott Elcomb wrote: On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Greg Norcie g...@norcie.com wrote: While I agree the OP probably should have gone to libtech-jobs, are they actually saying they aren't paying? While they didn't mention payment in the OP, they didn't say it was unpaid either. The graphscience site lists some internships in with their other hiring opportunities. OP mentioned it in the initial post: Our clients are major Fortune 500 retailers and we're looking for quirky, creative, self-motivated individuals who would thrive in a fast-paced environment. Internships are unpaid and last for at least 3 months. -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] The Privacy Book, by James Black, PhD?
Good ideas should speak for themselves. Some of the most knowledgeable people working on PETS don't have PhDs (or sometimes, lack degrees completely.) Anyone who stresses the PhD in order to imply their ideas are somehow better than others gets an eyebrow raise from me. (And that's coming from a doctoral student :) ) Also, either that's a fake name, or this James Black hasn't even published anything of note on the subject. Either way, he's using an appeal to authority, which doesn't sit well with me. Furthermore, I don't like the business model. Why doesn't he put the book up for free, and offer avenues for people to send him donations if they liked it? Those who would pirate the book will pirate it anyways, and those who might not have paid might download it, read it, then decide to donate. The fact that he didn't consider this as a business model also gives me pause. -- Greg Norcie (g...@norcie.com) GPG key: 0x1B873635 On 2/14/13 5:11 PM, Lee Fisher wrote: Does anyone have any opinions about the advise in this book? Thanks. https://www.awxcnx.de/privacybook.htm snip The Privacy Book: The Essential Guide To Living Anonymously CONTENTS CHAPTER 1 – INTRODUCTION CHAPTER II – ANONYMOUS ENCRYPTED EMAIL CHAPTER III – ANONYMOUS ENCRYPTED INTERNET CHAPTER IV – COMPUTER INTERNET SECURITY CHAPTER V – GHOST PHONES CHAPTER VI – GHOST INTERNET CONNECTION CHAPTER VII – DOMAINS, WEBHOSTING, ECOMMERCE CHAPTER VIII – ANONYMOUS PRIVATE EMONEY CHAPTER IX – DATA ENCRYPTION CHAPTER X – FAKE IDS SCAMS CHAPTER XI – REAL WORLD ANONYMITY CHAPTER XII – CONCLUSION REFERENCE LIST Author:James Black, PhD Over 300 pages, high quality, PDF or ePub The price of the eBook will be pegged to the price of gold. Pecunix and Liberty Reserve: 0.5 grams of Gold. Bitcoins: Equal to 0.5 grams of Gold. Euros, Swiss Francs and U.S. Dollars Equal to 0.5 grams of Gold. Delivery Method: Email (PDF or ePub) Payment options will be discussed via email. Preferred Payment Options: Pecunix, Liberty Reserve and Bitcoin. Negotiable with other payment methods. To purchase the book feel free to contact the autor by the text form below. Please add your email address for a reply. snip -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
[liberationtech] Super Bowl Power Outage: Possible SCADA intrusion?
It's admittedly a wild theory, but it was the first thing that came to mind. After the game I googled, and came across this gem: Michael Burns, a spokesman for Entergy Services, the local utility, said that his company’s distribution and transmission feeders that serve the Superdome were never interrupted. Power did not go out elsewhere in the city. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/04/sports/football/power-outage-in-superdome-delays-super-bowl.html As many on this list may know, SCADA vulnerabilities are rampant in the US power grid. And Stuxnet was targeted at SCADA systems overseas. Now, there's admittedly no evidence, so this is just idle speculation on my part, but I'd be surprised if I was the only one musing along these lines, and thought it might be interesting to start a thread about the possibility. -- Greg Norcie (g...@norcie.com) GPG key: 0x1B873635 -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Skype Open Letter: CALL FOR SIGNATORIES
You can add my name. Greg Norcie - PhD Student, Privacy Researcher -- Greg Norcie (g...@norcie.com) GPG key: 0x1B873635 On 1/16/13 11:58 AM, Nadim Kobeissi wrote: Dear Privacy Advocates and Internet Freedom Activists, I call on you to review the following draft for our Open Letter to Skype and present your name or the name of your organization as signatories: http://www.skypeopenletter.com/draft/ The letter will be released soon. Feedback is also welcome. Thank you, NK -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Tragic News: Aaron Swartz commits suicide
I really respect Aaron's work, and don't mean to detract from it. But perhaps we can use this to talk about the issue of depression in the technology community? (Especially academia - we are, after all on a Stanford run email list) I have several friends in academia who suffer from depression. I am known for being a good listening IRL, and I've offered to be there for many of them. You know what depressed ME? All of them remain oblivious the others exist - because they all believe that publicly acknowledging their mental illness will kill their chances for tenure and/or prestigious industry research jobs, and have sworn me to secrecy. These friends come from multiple universities/companies - it is not a problem endemic to one place. Depression kills more people than terrorism, DUI, heart disease, breast cancer - more than so many popular causes. Again - I do not in any way, shape, or form intend to detract from Alex's contributions. He was a great inspiration to me, and I greatly respect his contributions to us all. But I think that by opening a conversation about mental illness, we can help more people than debating about JSTOR, and do not want to see this opportunity lost. We could remove the stigma from talking about mental illness in academia today, if we chose. And maybe we could save someone thinking of making the choice Aaron made. Personally, I dislike the term suicide. I prefer the wording died of depression - to emphasize that depression is as much as a disease as any other. In closing... I offer my condolences to Aaron's surviving family, and hope we can use this moment to achieve some sort of silver lining to an extremely dark cloud. RIP Aaron. -- Greg Norcie (g...@norcie.com) GPG key: 0x1B873635 On 1/12/13 3:35 AM, Yosem Companys wrote: This is a tragic loss and a terrible blow to the liberationtech community. Yosem http://tech.mit.edu/V132/N61/swartz.html Aaron Swartz commits suicide Web Update By Anne Cai NEWS EDITOR; UPDATED AT 2:15 A.M. 1/12/13 Computer activist Aaron H. Swartz committed suicide in New York City yesterday, Jan. 11, according to his uncle, Michael Wolf, in a comment to The Tech. Swartz was 26. “The tragic and heartbreaking information you received is, regrettably, true,” confirmed Swartz’ attorney, Elliot R. Peters of Kecker and Van Nest, in an email to The Tech. Swartz was indicted in July 2011 by a federal grand jury for allegedly mass downloading documents from the JSTOR online journal archive with the intent to distribute them. He subsequently moved to Brooklyn, New York, where he then worked for Avaaz Foundation, a nonprofit “global web movement to bring people-powered politics to decision-making everywhere.” Swartz appeared in court on Sept. 24, 2012 and pleaded not guilty. The accomplished Swartz co-authored the now widely-used RSS 1.0 specification at age 14, was one of the three co-owners of the popular social news site Reddit, and completed a fellowship at Harvard’s Ethics Center Lab on Institutional Corruption. In 2010, he founded DemandProgress.org, a “campaign against the Internet censorship bills SOPA/PIPA.” -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
[liberationtech] Facebook Allows You to Pay $1 to Message Anyone
Hi all, I just read this article about Facebook's recent change to messages: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2022925/facebooks-1-message-test-opens-inboxes-to-strangers.html The gist is that you can pay a dollar to make sure your message is delivered: In the test, users can pay $1 to make sure their messages land in the Inbox, rather than the Other section. Facebook thinks this could be the best way to deliver important messages from non-friends while keeping spam out of the Inbox. I was wondering whether anyone else thinks this change could be a violation of Facebook's FTC settlement? I am not a lawyer, but I know several policy wonks are on here, so I thought I'd seek a second opinion. Recall that according to their 2011 settlement, Facebook is required to obtain consumers' affirmative express consent before enacting changes that override their privacy preferences (http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2011/11/privacysettlement.shtm) Facebook's previous privacy interface allowed users to specify who could send them messages. For example, a user could have specified that only their friends could message them. The new interface offers two options: 1.) Basic Filtering: Mostly just friends and people you know 2.) Strict Filtering: Mostly just friends - you may miss messages from other people you know (Screenshot: http://imgur.com/EZSBq) If a user, prior to this change, had made their settings such that only friends could message them, this change makes it such that ANYONE (including strangers) to pay to message them. Couldn't this be construed as enacting changes that override privacy preferences without affirmative express consent, and thus a violation of the 2011 settlement? -- Greg Norcie (g...@norcie.com) GPG key: 0x1B873635 -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] issilentcircleopensourceyet.com
Nadim I understand your position, but actions like this website won't help your cause. Can you understand how actions like setting up this web site might be viewed as a way to call attention to oneself, rather than champion the (respectable) ideals of the open source movement? -- Greg Norcie (g...@norcie.com) GPG key: 0x1B873635 On 11/6/12 1:53 PM, Nadim Kobeissi wrote: Ali, The issue is trust. Security software verifiability should not have to depend on Silent Circle (or who they hire to audit, for example Veracode.) NK On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Ali-Reza Anghaie a...@packetknife.com mailto:a...@packetknife.com wrote: Nobody would dispute that - that's not quite the same thing as FOSS default positions or some of the other criticisms. For example, I'd contend a paid Veracode audit would in all likelihood be better than any typical FOSS audit. Had they done that (heck, they might have but I doubt it) and still announced the intent of opening the codebase - I wager that would not have stopped the criticism. It appears to be a deep-seeded cultural divide more than any of the other factors combined. -Al On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Yosem Companys compa...@stanford.edu mailto:compa...@stanford.edu wrote: Security audits are always important, especially when people's lives are at risk. On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Nadim Kobeissi na...@nadim.cc mailto:na...@nadim.cc wrote: Hi Ali, There is no agenda, and there needn't be one if you are to critique security software. No need to be so aggressive. My qualms against Silent Circle are detailed here: http://log.nadim.cc/?p=89 NK On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Ali-Reza Anghaie a...@packetknife.com mailto:a...@packetknife.com wrote: Seriously - what's your agenda? Where are the domains for the other tens of providers who charge arms and legs based on closed protocols even? What's the nit with Silent Circle specifically? Because they're accessible? Because it's easier to use? Because the founders have good track records of standing up to Government too? Being absolutist about everything isn't helping anyone who ~needs~ it - it's a privilege of the haves that we can have these conversations over and over again. Shouldn't we have taken the fight to carriers, Apple iOS TCs, etc. harder and longer ago? And why do we keep expecting private entities to fight our Government battles for us? It's a losing proposition and increases the costs-per-individual to untenable levels when we mix absolutely all their enterprise with civil liberty issues. There has got to be a better way than this ridiculous trolling and bickering. Someone? Anyone? Again, seriously, what's the agenda against Silent Circle specifically? -Ali On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Nadim Kobeissi na...@nadim.cc mailto:na...@nadim.cc wrote: http://issilentcircleopensourceyet.com/ NK -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Bitcoin and The Public Function of Money
The personal (computer) is political :) -- Greg Norcie (g...@norcie.com) GPG key: 0x1B873635 On 11/5/12 1:21 PM, Yosem Companys wrote: They go hand in hand. Can't have philosophy without practices... ;) On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Dmytri Kleiner d...@trick.ca wrote: Hey Yosem, pretty sure the thread has run its course at this point. But in any case we can't get the tech part right if we don't get the liberation part right. The user stories for liberation tech must certainly derive from visions of liberation, or? Especially when the tech in question is economic in nature, such as Bitcoin. And economics is a technology every but as much as cryptography. -- Dmytri Kleiner Yosem Companys compa...@stanford.edu wrote: Just a little nudge to get folks back on the liberationtech discussion. While I (and probably others) find the discussion on this thread interesting, it appears to lack the necessary technology component to be deemed liberationtech. Thanks all, Yosem On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 4:15 AM, André Rebentisch tabe...@gmail.com wrote: Am 05.11.2012 11:19, schrieb Jacob Appelbaum: It isn't a straw man. Free trade is a nonsense phrase - free? Free for you? For me? Unencumbered by state taxes as it crosses a border? How does that trade happen? When I create something of value - have I done it in a vacuum? Free trade relates to tariffs and (import/export) quota, in other words overcoming geographical market segmentation. Best, André -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Large amounts of spam
Maybe I'm paranoid, but I wonder if this is an effort to disrupt the list (as opposed to the usual economic incentives associated w/ spam.) -- Greg Norcie (g...@norcie.com) GPG key: 0x1B873635 On 10/30/12 8:09 PM, Yosem Companys wrote: I've placed the list under emergency moderation, so I will have to approve every message individually before it gets delivered. Hopefully, this will stop the spam. On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Nadim Kobeissi na...@nadim.cc mailto:na...@nadim.cc wrote: This mailing list has a spam problem (I'm receiving nude photo attachments now.) Admins: Please address! Thank you, NK -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Large amounts of spam
I used to do anti-phishing training for a start up. Spammers aren't dumb. They probably realize 1.) People in academia trust other academics 2.) People from Stanford have more disposable income than the average mailing list recipient. :) -- Greg Norcie (g...@norcie.com) GPG key: 0x1B873635 On 10/31/12 6:50 PM, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb wrote: At a risk of receiving the mentioned spam myself (thankfully my mail provider also seems to be killing the spam before it gets to me), and at risk of offering another evidence-less possible scenario - There was recently a valid e-mail account that was somehow used to send spam to the list. It's quite conceivable that account is some way connected/has provided the beginning point. Or like the person from Stanford mentioned maybe the spam is targeting a number of Stanford lists On 31 Oct 2012, at 22:41, Yosem Companys wrote: Maybe. But the site was already mirrored for a while prior to the archives being made public. So I think that's unlikely. On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Andrew Lewis m...@andrewlew.is wrote: Maybe someone is simply scrapping the archives for the sender address? On Oct 31, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Sarah Watts wrote: I am one of the...people it got; my email address was suddenly subscribed to more than thirty lists (Twenty maybe) none of which I subscribed to. I contacted someone...and have yet to do the second thing they suggested. -S On 10/31/12, S Vivek vivek...@stanford.edu wrote: Greg: This seems to be happening in other lists at Stanford, and so I won't be worried of a concerted effort against the libtech listserv. We are working on it, and I hope that we'll be able to handle it soon. Vivek = Program on Liberation Technology, Stanford University http://liberationtechnology.stanford.edu C 149 Encina Hall 616 Serra St. Stanford, CA 94305 Phone: 1-801-784-8357, that is 1-801-S Vivek's! Blog: http://viveks.info On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Andy Isaacson a...@hexapodia.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 07:32:18PM -0400, Nadim Kobeissi wrote: This mailing list has a spam problem (I'm receiving nude photo attachments now.) Admins: Please address! Hmmm, I'm not seeing this problem; I'm subscribed to liberationtech on a bog-standard linux + postfix installation and I save every message delivered before I run spam filtering, and I don't see anything porn-spam-related in my all-mail archive. Care to share one of the spam messages (headers + body text only, I don't need any more nude photos thnx)? Offlist is bettter I suppose. -andy -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Bernard / bluboxthief / ei8fdb IO91XM / www.ei8fdb.org -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] CryptoParty Handbook
I think this is a great project. But I do think that a manual is a stopgap measure - it would also be great if we worked towards making these tools usable enough that they didn't need a manual. If we can make an iPod so easy enough for our grandparents to use, we should be able to do the same with Tor, PGP, etc. It will be a long, arduous process, but I think it can be done. Usable security it not an oxymoron :) -- Greg Norcie (g...@norcie.com) GPG key: 0x1B873635 On 10/4/12 5:13 PM, Andrew Mallis wrote: FYI This 392 page, Creative Commons licensed handbook is designed to help those with no prior experience to protect their basic human right to Privacy in networked, digital domains. By covering a broad array of topics and use contexts it is written to help anyone wishing to understand and then quickly mitigate many kinds of vulnerability using free, open-source tools. Most importantly however this handbook is intended as a reference for use during Crypto Parties. PDF available for download and more info: https://cryptoparty.org/wiki/CryptoPartyHandbook *Andrew Mallis* #ows Tech Ops http://www.nycga.net/groups/tech | FGA http://wiki.occupy.net/wiki/Federated_General_Assembly | Occupy Directory http://directory.occupy.net -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] archives public
There is what should be, and there is reality. Any mailing list that allows anyone to subscribe is effectively public - some malicious actor will always siphon off posts, regardless of laws, list policies, or basic social norms. Making claims that a list is private is dangerous and gives a false sense of security IMHO. I say we keep the list as it is - no automated archive. And if there is a technical measure to indicate to ethical bots not to archive, we set that up. But I feel strongly that we should _not_ make any claims that the list is private. We should state something like While LibTech attempts to limit crawling by robots, this list is open to anyone, and thus, is for all intents and purposes, public. -- Greg Norcie (g...@norcie.com) GPG key: 0x1B873635 On 8/11/12 3:58 PM, André Rebentisch wrote: Am 10.08.2012 06:40, schrieb Brian Conley: I agree with you generally Jillian, but perhaps the list guidelines should be changed to simply make the archives public? I respectfully disagree, I experienced it as dangerous to have open ML archives. In Germany I would clearly advise list admins against unless it is a newsletter. I have been through this. a) case of noticetakedown action: Most list admins have no process how to delete individual posts from the archives. If you don't respond in time you get into trouble. You never get enough time to respond when your opponents are malicious. b) several emails per year from individuals kindly asking you to remove posts from the archives of an inactive list you didn't even know. c) google indexing, which promotes a) and b) cases A ML usually implies an expectation about the audience and a customary agreement how to share submissions. If you subscribe to a mailing list w/o open archives your are not supposed to make them available. Here an example: RMS once had a discussion with Zimbabwe supporters on an IGF internet governance list where he expressed quite frank and opinionated views about the nature of the Mugabe government. Because it was an open list with open archives (but limited subscribers) the conversation ended up indexed by Google. RMS did not bother that he endangered his African discussion partners by inciting them to answer his flame bait. Did participants to a ML gave their prior consent to leave a totalitarian trace? Google indexing makes the discussion partners uneven, because (email surveillance aside) certain parties cannot express their views within the group. Google indexing of open archive ML leaves a trace that anyone without advanced knowledge, access or technology could exploit. You type the email of a student from Zimbabwe and you find a discussion where he responds to a critic of the Mugabe government. Not relevant for us, we enjoy free speech, but it may become quite dangerous for this person, in particular, if the nature of the regime was correctly described. I am disgusted by the information wants to be free cynicism in these scenarios. Best, André ___ liberationtech mailing list liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Should you need to change your subscription options, please go to: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech If you would like to receive a daily digest, click yes (once you click above) next to would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest? You will need the user name and password you receive from the list moderator in monthly reminders. You may ask for a reminder here: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech Should you need immediate assistance, please contact the list moderator. Please don't forget to follow us on http://twitter.com/#!/Liberationtech ___ liberationtech mailing list liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Should you need to change your subscription options, please go to: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech If you would like to receive a daily digest, click yes (once you click above) next to would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest? You will need the user name and password you receive from the list moderator in monthly reminders. You may ask for a reminder here: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech Should you need immediate assistance, please contact the list moderator. Please don't forget to follow us on http://twitter.com/#!/Liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] archives public
I am not suggesting legalizing murder I am suggesting placing prominent signs in an area where many murders occur :) These signs could warn people to take reasonable precautions such as avoiding travel at night, and dialing 911 to report suspicious persons, and possibly choosing to obtain a concealed carry permit. I don't think these signs would normalize murders. My own undergrad used to post flyers in areas where muggings occured, and this didn't make me think it was OK to mug people - it made me take a bus or a cab, rather than walk through those areas late at night. Also, we have a means to stop CCTV - privacy legislation. For example, if London (CCTV champion of the world) changed their laws, the use of CCTV could be eliminated very easily. There is no easy fix to stop malicious individuals and/or intelligence agencies from siphoning off posts. The intelligence agencies of the world all have pretty much free reign to spy on the communications of the rest of the world. Some of the less human rights respecting ones spy on their own people as well :) You talk about how terrible it is that these privacy violations are occurring - and I emphatically agree, 100%. Where we differ is that I think that it is better to warn people about their lack of privacy, and perhaps help them avoid making a dangerous disclosure, rather than pay lip service to some ill-defined idea like normalization while some poor souls posts something that could get them arrested or killed. I value human lives over ideas, especially when those ideas aren't backed with data. Can you show me proof that people's privacy attitudes change when exposed to privacy warnings in the manner you fear will happen? (If not - hey - potential study idea up for grabs :) ) -- Greg Norcie (g...@norcie.com) GPG key: 0x1B873635 On 8/11/12 4:20 PM, André Rebentisch wrote: Am 12.08.2012 01:03, schrieb Greg Norcie: There is what should be, and there is reality. Any mailing list that allows anyone to subscribe is effectively public - some malicious actor will always siphon off posts, regardless of laws, list policies, or basic social norms. Radicalising realism, why do societies sanction murder if all people have to die anyway? ;-) But seriously, in the context of camera surveillance: Analogue argument, you are in public space, everyone could watch you at the streets, why bother camera surveillance? Shouldn't a citizen expect to be recorded on tape? etc. I am all for worst case expectations but often it's a human slippery slope that we tend make these views normative and as a result promote practices that make things worse and discourage higher ambitions and standards. Best, André ___ liberationtech mailing list liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Should you need to change your subscription options, please go to: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech If you would like to receive a daily digest, click yes (once you click above) next to would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest? You will need the user name and password you receive from the list moderator in monthly reminders. You may ask for a reminder here: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech Should you need immediate assistance, please contact the list moderator. Please don't forget to follow us on http://twitter.com/#!/Liberationtech ___ liberationtech mailing list liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Should you need to change your subscription options, please go to: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech If you would like to receive a daily digest, click yes (once you click above) next to would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest? You will need the user name and password you receive from the list moderator in monthly reminders. You may ask for a reminder here: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech Should you need immediate assistance, please contact the list moderator. Please don't forget to follow us on http://twitter.com/#!/Liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] archives public
Yes. I think I was unnecessarily harsh in my own initial reply. We simply cannot presuppose knowledge of a system. Security nonexperts have different mental models. Can we solve every security issue? No. And this is one that unfortunately, can't be solved without user education. However, if there's a way to tell robots not to archive this list, I think it should be undertaken. Corporations and other private business entities will always respond to the letter (not the spirit) of the law (/rules/W3C standards) -- Greg Norcie (g...@norcie.com) GPG key: 0x1B873635 On 8/9/12 9:40 PM, Brian Conley wrote: I agree with you generally Jillian, but perhaps the list guidelines should be changed to simply make the archives public? In the interest of simplicity and transparency to users, this is probably the best solution. Currently individuals who are more knowledgeable have more access, while those who are less knowledgeable may have incorrect assumptions about the safety/security of the content of their emails to the list. This is starting to feel a bit like the crux of that cryptocat conversation, no? On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Jillian C. York jilliancy...@gmail.com mailto:jilliancy...@gmail.com wrote: Folks, *anyone can join the list*. I assume you all know that, since you all joined once. Therefore, this seems like a pretty silly thing to argue about. On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Maxim Kammerer m...@dee.su mailto:m...@dee.su wrote: On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Sam King samk...@cs.stanford.edu mailto:samk...@cs.stanford.edu wrote: In general, I prefer it when the reply-to is as it is in this mailing list. When I want to reply to the sender, I hit reply, and when I want to reply to all, I hit reply all. Then, after N replies in a row, you have N subscriber emails in To: header, which means that user's mail server has to send N identical emails (strain on the server, risk of triggering spam filters), list server has to filter email to subscribers who are in To: or Cc: (if anything goes wrong, they get an email twice), and anyone who forwards an email from the list unnecessarily exposes subscribers' email addresses. When the reply-to is the list, it becomes more annoying to reply just to the sender. Any decent mail client has a “Reply to Sender” button — no idea why GMail doesn't (or I didn't look hard enough). -- Maxim Kammerer Liberté Linux: http://dee.su/liberte ___ liberationtech mailing list liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu mailto:liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Should you need to change your subscription options, please go to: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech If you would like to receive a daily digest, click yes (once you click above) next to would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest? You will need the user name and password you receive from the list moderator in monthly reminders. You may ask for a reminder here: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech Should you need immediate assistance, please contact the list moderator. Please don't forget to follow us on http://twitter.com/#!/Liberationtech -- *+1-857-891-4244 tel:%2B1-857-891-4244 |**jilliancyork.com http://jilliancyork.com/ | @jilliancyork * We must not be afraid of dreaming the seemingly impossible if we want the seemingly impossible to become a reality - /Vaclav Havel/ ___ liberationtech mailing list liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu mailto:liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Should you need to change your subscription options, please go to: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech If you would like to receive a daily digest, click yes (once you click above) next to would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest? You will need the user name and password you receive from the list moderator in monthly reminders. You may ask for a reminder here: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech Should you need immediate assistance, please contact the list moderator. Please don't forget to follow us on http://twitter.com/#!/Liberationtech -- Brian Conley Director, Small World News http://smallworldnews.tv http://smallworldnews.tv/ m: 646.285.2046 Skype: brianjoelconley public key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xCEEF938A1DBDD587 http://pgp.mit.edu
[liberationtech] Wired's response to Soghoian's criticism of their Cryptocat article
I am interested in what the list thinks of this recent Wired article: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/08/security-researchers/all/ I have written a few paragraphs, but I'll sit on them until morning and see if I am still as unhappy w/ Wired tomorrow morning as I am now before posting them publicly. -- Greg Norcie (g...@norcie.com) GPG key: 0x1B873635 ___ liberationtech mailing list liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Should you need to change your subscription options, please go to: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech If you would like to receive a daily digest, click yes (once you click above) next to would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest? You will need the user name and password you receive from the list moderator in monthly reminders. You may ask for a reminder here: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech Should you need immediate assistance, please contact the list moderator. Please don't forget to follow us on http://twitter.com/#!/Liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] AES-encyrpted telephony in Iran?
Also, regardless of it's technical merits, that price is way too high. -- Greg Norcie (g...@norcie.com) GPG key: 0x1B873635 On 6/12/12 9:29 PM, Naiz Mudin wrote: Ladies Gentlemen, I have discovered, by serendipity, an iOS application that is evidently also available for Windows Phone and Symbian (soon to be replaced with Windows Phone 8). It is called, SafeSession and claims 256-bit AES encryption between known and trusted users. Is this a viable opportunity for an Iranian audience? On iOS market, the price is at $299 USD, clearly out of the price range of an Iranian economy reeling from the effects of sanctions and out-of-control inflation. Can it be migrated, or somehow ported? The technology intrigues me greatly - as I am a paladin for technology that permits open but secure communications between Iranians without fear of filtering or government monitoring. But is the cost too high? Has the developer not found the right market? Or is it simply not the right tool to solve the right problem? http://safe-session.com/safe_session_voip Regards, NaizMudin @naizmudin ___ liberationtech mailing list liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Should you need to change your subscription options, please go to: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech If you would like to receive a daily digest, click yes (once you click above) next to would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest? You will need the user name and password you receive from the list moderator in monthly reminders. You may ask for a reminder here: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech Should you need immediate assistance, please contact the list moderator. Please don't forget to follow us on http://twitter.com/#!/Liberationtech ___ liberationtech mailing list liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Should you need to change your subscription options, please go to: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech If you would like to receive a daily digest, click yes (once you click above) next to would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest? You will need the user name and password you receive from the list moderator in monthly reminders. You may ask for a reminder here: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech Should you need immediate assistance, please contact the list moderator. Please don't forget to follow us on http://twitter.com/#!/Liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Urgent question
Sam makes a great point. In general, it is a best practice to assume that anything posted to a mailing list like this (or any other form of social media) is public, regardless of any privacy settings. Even if the list is not indexed by the maintainers, any member could choose to copy the messages sent to the list, and post them on the public web. However, I do believe that this list does not make the subscriber list publicly available, so if someone wants to sign up and lurk, as long as they do not post, their identity would not be known to anyone other than the admins. -- Greg Norcie (g...@norcie.com) GPG key: 0x1B873635 On 6/4/12 9:12 PM, Sam King wrote: ...any privacy you're getting is just security through obscurity. ___ liberationtech mailing list liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Should you need to change your subscription options, please go to: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech If you would like to receive a daily digest, click yes (once you click above) next to would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest? You will need the user name and password you receive from the list moderator in monthly reminders. You may ask for a reminder here: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech Should you need immediate assistance, please contact the list moderator. Please don't forget to follow us on http://twitter.com/#!/Liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Outside of the list/listmembers is Libtech basically private, or basically public? WAS - Re: Urgent question
Brian, Yes, I agree that the community believes these things. The problem is that a malicious actor could sign up for the list and forward messages posted to it. The admins allow freemail users to subscribe, so this is a credible attack vector. While I trust the members of the community would not violate the spirit of the list, unfortunately we cannot guard against malicious outsiders while maintaining the open spirit that the list currently has. -- Greg Norcie (g...@norcie.com) GPG key: 0x1B873635 On 6/4/12 9:49 PM, Brian Conley wrote: I believe we have also agreed, generally, as a community, that the content here should not be shared broadly outside the list, or consider on the record unless you request the consent of the initial poster. I hope others will state whether they think this is the case, or not? I know that the community is online and so not secure but i believe it should be considered private to the community as a matter of courtesy. I hope others will jump in with their thoughts as well! Brian ___ liberationtech mailing list liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Should you need to change your subscription options, please go to: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech If you would like to receive a daily digest, click yes (once you click above) next to would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest? You will need the user name and password you receive from the list moderator in monthly reminders. You may ask for a reminder here: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech Should you need immediate assistance, please contact the list moderator. Please don't forget to follow us on http://twitter.com/#!/Liberationtech
Re: [liberationtech] Privacy-minded search engines?
Privacy Bird was an early attempt at a privacy sensitive search engine, rendering privacy ratings based on P3P. Project site: http://www.privacybird.org/faq.html Academic article on it's development (apologies for the paywall): http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=1165734.1165735 -- Greg Norcie (g...@norcie.com) GPG key: 0x1B873635 On 5/1/12 8:39 AM, Okhin wrote: On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 23:19:06 -0700 Parker Higgins par...@eff.org wrote: On 4/30/12 3:55 PM, Cyrus Farivar wrote: Hey guys, I'm working on a piece about privacy-minded search engines. I know of DuckDuckGo and IXQuick. Any others out there? seeks-project.info which is an opensourced and P2P searchengines, each user can/may set-up it's own node and connect it to peers to enhance it's ability to find pertinent results. OKhin ___ liberationtech mailing list liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Should you need to change your subscription options, please go to: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech If you would like to receive a daily digest, click yes (once you click above) next to would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest? You will need the user name and password you receive from the list moderator in monthly reminders. You may ask for a reminder here: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech Should you need immediate assistance, please contact the list moderator. Please don't forget to follow us on http://twitter.com/#!/Liberationtech ___ liberationtech mailing list liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Should you need to change your subscription options, please go to: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech If you would like to receive a daily digest, click yes (once you click above) next to would you like to receive list mail batched in a daily digest? You will need the user name and password you receive from the list moderator in monthly reminders. You may ask for a reminder here: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech Should you need immediate assistance, please contact the list moderator. Please don't forget to follow us on http://twitter.com/#!/Liberationtech
