Re: Hiding lyrics extenders on empty measures

[Jean-Charles Malahieude]

Le 23/11/2022 à 10:32, Werner LEMBERG a écrit :



As it turns out, it’s Score.LyricHyphen.stencil I have to play with,
since in my actual score, the end of the word 'Kum -- ba -- ya'
occurs at the beginning of the coda [...]


This is an interesting case, which probably nobody has thought of
previously (at least I can't remember this ever being discussed).  I
agree that LilyPond should be able to handle this, for example with a
predefined command like `\trailingHyphen`.



Something like a \laissezVibrer followed by a \repeatTie?

Re: Hiding lyrics extenders on empty measures

[Werner LEMBERG]

Hello Kieren,


>> I agree that LilyPond should be able to handle this, for example
>> with a predefined command like `\trailingHyphen`.
> 
> An automagic solution would be great!

Please check our issue tracker whether we really don't have such a
request.  If not, could you open an issue?


Werner

Re: Hiding lyrics extenders on empty measures

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi all,

> This is an interesting case, which probably nobody has thought of
> previously (at least I can't remember this ever being discussed).

I run into it all the time in my works… I simply prefix the syllable with a 
hyphen (tweaked to match the LyricHyphen) and use self-alignment-X to make it 
look like it’s doing the right thing.

> I agree that LilyPond should be able to handle this,
> for example with a predefined command like `\trailingHyphen`.

An automagic solution would be great!

Thanks,
Kieren.

Re: Hiding lyrics extenders on empty measures

[Werner LEMBERG]

> As it turns out, it’s Score.LyricHyphen.stencil I have to play with,
> since in my actual score, the end of the word 'Kum -- ba -- ya'
> occurs at the beginning of the coda [...]

This is an interesting case, which probably nobody has thought of
previously (at least I can't remember this ever being discussed).  I
agree that LilyPond should be able to handle this, for example with a
predefined command like `\trailingHyphen`.

Jean?


Werner

Re: Hiding lyrics extenders on empty measures

[Jacques Menu]

Hello Werner,

As it turns out, it’s Score.LyricHyphen.stencil I have to play with, since in 
my actual score, the end of the word 'Kum — ba — ya' occurs at the beginning of 
the coda :




But :

\override Score.LyricHyphen.stencil = ##f 
kum — ba --
\revert Score.LyricHyphen.stencil
ya

prevents the hyphen I need  after ‘ba’ at the end of measure 13 from being 
visible : it’s either all hyphens of none of them.

So I use :

Lo -- ord Kum --
\once  \override LyricText.X-offset = #-0.5
"ba  -"

instead, at the cost of this minus sign being slightly too thick.

Would be nice to be able to be able to hide all the hyphens except the first 
one in such a situation.

A nice day!

JM

Re: Hiding lyrics extenders on empty measures

[Jacques Menu]

Hello Werner,

Thanks for pointing this out, and sorry for the noice : I’ve done so many 
attempts that this escaped me.

A nice day!

JM

> Le 23 nov. 2022 à 08:05, Werner LEMBERG  a écrit :
> 
> 
>> Overriding Score.LyricExtender.stencil to hide the extenders seems
>> to be ineffective, as show below. OverridingScore.LyricText.stencil
>> works fine, though.
> 
> Well, you have
> 
> ```
>Lor -- d  -- |
> ```
> 
> If you replace this with
> 
> ```
>Lor -- d  __ |
> ```
> 
> it works as expected.  What am I missing?
> 
> 
>   Werner
> 

Re: Hiding lyrics extenders on empty measures

[Werner LEMBERG]

> Overriding Score.LyricExtender.stencil to hide the extenders seems
> to be ineffective, as show below. OverridingScore.LyricText.stencil
> works fine, though.

Well, you have

```
Lor -- d  -- |
```

If you replace this with

```
Lor -- d  __ |
```

it works as expected.  What am I missing?


   Werner

Hiding lyrics extenders on empty measures

[Jacques Menu]

Hello folks,

Overriding Score.LyricExtender.stencil to hide the extenders seems to be 
ineffective, as show below. OverridingScore.LyricText.stencil works fine, 
though.

Thanks for any help!

JM



\version "2.23.80"

#(set-global-staff-size 32)

\score {
  <<

\new Staff
<<
  \new Voice = "voixA"  {
\clef "treble"
\partial 2
a2 |
b16 c8. r4 r2 |
f8 g4. a2 ~ |
a2 r2
  }

  \new Lyrics \lyricsto "voixA"
  {
Oh   |
\override Score.LyricExtender.stencil = ##f %%% <-- HERE
Lor -- d  -- |
\revert Score.LyricExtender.stencil
Kum -- ba -- ya __
  }


>>
  >>
}