RE: lingo-l Any idea?

2003-12-02 Thread Anand Ravi
snip
Using a flash member also has speed implications.  If you have one large
map
with every little object on it, when it's zoomed out to see a lot of the
map, there will be so many little objects visible that it will bog down
the
playback, possibly worse than an image would (you'd have to do some
tests to
see which is worse).  
snip

Just a thought..the problems of speed can be minimized if you go down
the multiple movieclips route

Regards,
Anand Ravi 



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lingo-l Any idea?

2003-12-02 Thread Paul Steven
Hi there

I made a similar app which was basically a searchable street map of the
entire UK city of Cardiff. I initially started off using imaging Lingo to
copy the relevant section of the entire map however this was far too slow
when scrolling especially as the client required it to scroll at 10
different zoom levels.

I found that using a flash sprite was an ideal solution as it had the
ability to zoom built in and the performance of scrolling and zooming at the
same time was very good.

Please feel free to email me if you have any questions about this approach.

Cheers

Paul

http://www.themediakitchen.co.uk



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Re: lingo-l Any idea?

2003-12-01 Thread emredk
Best way to zooming map,  using vector flash member. it gives best quality.
When you're using an image, on zoomstate %300 (any) set the flash
movieclip.alpha down. It hides to image pixel problem.

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 At 19:08 30. 11. 03, Diego Landro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For the zoom option map the best way would be to use a big image and
resize
 it as you use the zoom in-out tool, but that way maybe the image is too
big
 and the app would slow down  a lot because of the big image. If this
happens
 i guess your best shot would be to use different images for different
 degrees of zooming, and you should be careful enough to register these
 variations between maps so you can then adjust your coordinates for
object

 Yes, picture of the map is very big and it slow down any moving and
 resizing. it looks like more pictures will be better solution.

 for making n-markers (if i understand quite right what youre trying to
do)
 your best possibility is to use lists (marker=[m1,m2,m3...]) if youre not
 familiar with lists check the lingo dictionary, is quite simple (again, i

 Ufff, my english, sorry. Markers are on the map annd they must be buttons.
 For example, i select from database all objects from group museums and
have
 34 results with x and y coordinates for display on the map (markers) and
 every dot on the map must be mouse clickable. I can handle more pictures
 and scaling between them and i can use loop:

 repeat with i=1 to GetRecordCount(ValentinaCursor)
 ...
 end repeat

 to display dots on the map:

 member(map).image.fill(rect(0,0,20,20).offset(x_koord, y_koord),
 [#color : rgb(255,0,0), #shapeType : #oval, #lineSize : 2])

 but i have not any idea how to make them mouse sensitive - when you click
 on some map object you get more information about. Best posibble way is
 that click return some record ID and this is a reason to make sprites on
 the fly not to draw on the image.


 Alex


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RE: lingo-l Any idea?

2003-12-01 Thread Anand Ravi
You might want to explore integrating flash content within Director for
this. 

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Subject: lingo-l Any idea?

I want to make one CD ROM  project - dinamic map of the city with city 
objects which are shown dinamicly on the map from database.(Valentina).
I 
have a problem how to make map of the city with zoom option. Is it one
big 
image or to make it from many small images, or something else. I have
done 
similar thing with one image and one object.

In database I store x and y location of object and then position a
marker 
sprite on selected object. If i have more objects to show, how to make 
n-markers? I can draw oval on bitmap but there is a problem to detect
mouse 
click on one of them and which one and call display_more_information 
function or miaw.

Did someone have done something similar or have idea how to do this?

Thanks, and sorry for my english
Alex 


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Re: lingo-l Any idea?

2003-12-01 Thread Charlie Fiskeaux II
Using a flash member also has speed implications.  If you have one large map
with every little object on it, when it's zoomed out to see a lot of the
map, there will be so many little objects visible that it will bog down the
playback, possibly worse than an image would (you'd have to do some tests to
see which is worse).  I would probably go a different route altogether and
use a copyPixels solution.  Have one large map that is the whole map at as
large a resolution as you would ever need, and then have another bitmap that
is just for display.  Then you can use copyPixels to copy different parts of
the large map into the display bitmap for display.  To zoom out, simply copy
a larger rect of the source bitmap into the smaller one of the display
bitmap and it will be resized to fit (antialiasing and all!).

Charlie Fiskeaux II
Media Designer
Cre8tive Group
cre8tivegroup.com
859/858-9054x29
cell:859/608-9194

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Subject: Re: lingo-l Any idea?


 Best way to zooming map,  using vector flash member. it gives best
quality.
 When you're using an image, on zoomstate %300 (any) set the flash
 movieclip.alpha down. It hides to image pixel problem.

 emredk®

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 From: sasa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 6:41 AM
 Subject: Re: lingo-l Any idea?


  At 19:08 30. 11. 03, Diego Landro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  For the zoom option map the best way would be to use a big image and
 resize
  it as you use the zoom in-out tool, but that way maybe the image is too
 big
  and the app would slow down  a lot because of the big image. If this
 happens
  i guess your best shot would be to use different images for different
  degrees of zooming, and you should be careful enough to register these
  variations between maps so you can then adjust your coordinates for
 object
 
  Yes, picture of the map is very big and it slow down any moving and
  resizing. it looks like more pictures will be better solution.
 
  for making n-markers (if i understand quite right what youre trying to
 do)
  your best possibility is to use lists (marker=[m1,m2,m3...]) if youre
not
  familiar with lists check the lingo dictionary, is quite simple (again,
i
 
  Ufff, my english, sorry. Markers are on the map annd they must be
buttons.
  For example, i select from database all objects from group museums and
 have
  34 results with x and y coordinates for display on the map (markers) and
  every dot on the map must be mouse clickable. I can handle more pictures
  and scaling between them and i can use loop:
 
  repeat with i=1 to GetRecordCount(ValentinaCursor)
  ...
  end repeat
 
  to display dots on the map:
 
  member(map).image.fill(rect(0,0,20,20).offset(x_koord, y_koord),
  [#color : rgb(255,0,0), #shapeType : #oval, #lineSize : 2])
 
  but i have not any idea how to make them mouse sensitive - when you
click
  on some map object you get more information about. Best posibble way is
  that click return some record ID and this is a reason to make sprites on
  the fly not to draw on the image.
 
 
  Alex
 
 
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Re: lingo-l Any idea

2003-12-01 Thread Denis Bélisle
Hi Alex,

I have done something like this last year. I used maps of different 
size (10%, 25%, 50% and 100%) and allowed the user to zoom in. With 
this approach, like Diego says, you must harvest all marker positions 
and transform their coordinates and size when going from one map to 
another. Just make sure all marker positions are made relative to the 
map as a reference, of course, and not the stage. Overall this means a 
few tricks to implement, but it works quite well.

Denis



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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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From: Diego Landro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: lingo-l Any idea?
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:08:51 -0300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, never done anything of the sort, but here are some ideas.
For the zoom option map the best way would be to use a big image and 
resize
it as you use the zoom in-out tool, but that way maybe the image is 
too big
and the app would slow down  a lot because of the big image. If this 
happens
i guess your best shot would be to use different images for different
degrees of zooming, and you should be careful enough to register these
variations between maps so you can then adjust your coordinates for 
object
displaying and placing (example: if you use a 100% and a 50% map, then 
in
the 50% map you should display your objects at object.size/2)
for making n-markers (if i understand quite right what youre trying to 
do)
your best possibility is to use lists (marker=[m1,m2,m3...]) if youre 
not
familiar with lists check the lingo dictionary, is quite simple 
(again, i
don´t know if i understood right what you´re trying to do, i guess 
it´s that
you have one set of variables and you want to use many sets and not 
just
one, then lists is the way to go)
Diego Landro
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From: sasa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 8:50 AM
Subject: lingo-l Any idea?


I want to make one CD ROM  project - dinamic map of the city with city
objects which are shown dinamicly on the map from 
database.(Valentina). I
have a problem how to make map of the city with zoom option. Is it 
one big
image or to make it from many small images, or something else. I have 
done
similar thing with one image and one object.

In database I store x and y location of object and then position a 
marker
sprite on selected object. If i have more objects to show, how to make
n-markers? I can draw oval on bitmap but there is a problem to detect
mouse
click on one of them and which one and call display_more_information
function or miaw.
Did someone have done something similar or have idea how to do this?

Thanks, and sorry for my english
Alex
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lingo-l Any idea?

2003-11-30 Thread sasa
I want to make one CD ROM  project - dinamic map of the city with city 
objects which are shown dinamicly on the map from database.(Valentina). I 
have a problem how to make map of the city with zoom option. Is it one big 
image or to make it from many small images, or something else. I have done 
similar thing with one image and one object.

In database I store x and y location of object and then position a marker 
sprite on selected object. If i have more objects to show, how to make 
n-markers? I can draw oval on bitmap but there is a problem to detect mouse 
click on one of them and which one and call display_more_information 
function or miaw.

Did someone have done something similar or have idea how to do this?

Thanks, and sorry for my english
Alex 

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Re: lingo-l Any idea?

2003-11-30 Thread Diego Landro
Well, never done anything of the sort, but here are some ideas.
For the zoom option map the best way would be to use a big image and resize
it as you use the zoom in-out tool, but that way maybe the image is too big
and the app would slow down  a lot because of the big image. If this happens
i guess your best shot would be to use different images for different
degrees of zooming, and you should be careful enough to register these
variations between maps so you can then adjust your coordinates for object
displaying and placing (example: if you use a 100% and a 50% map, then in
the 50% map you should display your objects at object.size/2)
for making n-markers (if i understand quite right what youre trying to do)
your best possibility is to use lists (marker=[m1,m2,m3...]) if youre not
familiar with lists check the lingo dictionary, is quite simple (again, i
don´t know if i understood right what you´re trying to do, i guess it´s that
you have one set of variables and you want to use many sets and not just
one, then lists is the way to go)
Diego Landro
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From: sasa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 8:50 AM
Subject: lingo-l Any idea?


 I want to make one CD ROM  project - dinamic map of the city with city
 objects which are shown dinamicly on the map from database.(Valentina). I
 have a problem how to make map of the city with zoom option. Is it one big
 image or to make it from many small images, or something else. I have done
 similar thing with one image and one object.

 In database I store x and y location of object and then position a marker
 sprite on selected object. If i have more objects to show, how to make
 n-markers? I can draw oval on bitmap but there is a problem to detect
mouse
 click on one of them and which one and call display_more_information
 function or miaw.

 Did someone have done something similar or have idea how to do this?

 Thanks, and sorry for my english
 Alex


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Re: lingo-l Any idea?

2003-11-30 Thread sasa
At 19:08 30. 11. 03, Diego Landro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For the zoom option map the best way would be to use a big image and resize
it as you use the zoom in-out tool, but that way maybe the image is too big
and the app would slow down  a lot because of the big image. If this happens
i guess your best shot would be to use different images for different
degrees of zooming, and you should be careful enough to register these
variations between maps so you can then adjust your coordinates for object
Yes, picture of the map is very big and it slow down any moving and 
resizing. it looks like more pictures will be better solution.

for making n-markers (if i understand quite right what youre trying to do)
your best possibility is to use lists (marker=[m1,m2,m3...]) if youre not
familiar with lists check the lingo dictionary, is quite simple (again, i
Ufff, my english, sorry. Markers are on the map annd they must be buttons. 
For example, i select from database all objects from group museums and have 
34 results with x and y coordinates for display on the map (markers) and 
every dot on the map must be mouse clickable. I can handle more pictures 
and scaling between them and i can use loop:

   repeat with i=1 to GetRecordCount(ValentinaCursor)
   ...
   end repeat
to display dots on the map:

   member(map).image.fill(rect(0,0,20,20).offset(x_koord, y_koord), 
[#color : rgb(255,0,0), #shapeType : #oval, #lineSize : 2])

but i have not any idea how to make them mouse sensitive - when you click 
on some map object you get more information about. Best posibble way is 
that click return some record ID and this is a reason to make sprites on 
the fly not to draw on the image.

Alex  

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