Re: lingo-l x-post: DMX issues (summary)

2003-06-23 Thread Andreas Gaunitz
On Friday, Jun 20, 2003, at 16:43 Europe/Stockholm, Daniel Nelson wrote:

time animation. The ones that bother me are the little tools that I
write which use OSControl xtra for all the interface components. They
are so lightweight that it seems crazy to start the fans blowing -
which also reduces laptop battery time, of course.
Yes, I wish there were an option to say hey, this is just a regular 
app, not a multimedia project.


What about using pause instead of go to the frame? I don't have dir on 
this computer so I can't test it myself, but I use pause if I don't 
have animations...

-A.

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Re: lingo-l x-post: DMX issues (summary)

2003-06-20 Thread Alex da Franca
At 0:52 Uhr -0400 20.06.2003, Tab Julius wrote:
I've noticed that occasionally commands issued in the message window 
are ignored.  I haven't figured out the rhyme or reason to this, but 
in testing various command-line Xtras, occasionally, a call 
garners no result at all.  A breakpoint and/or printout in the Xtra 
shows it was never called.  Re-submitting the command works.

Has anyone else seen this?
could it be by any chance, that you SHIFT-RETURNed by mistake ?
you remember, that there is this new multi line message window 
feature in DiMX ?
shift+return adds a return without executing the line
ctrl+return executes all preceding lines up to the first empty line.
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RE: lingo-l x-post: DMX issues (summary)

2003-06-20 Thread Chris Aernoudt
This has always been like this, PC and MAC...
The only thing that really sucks about this, is that it is an excellent
way of eating laptop battery power... a real good feature for a mobile
world, ironically speaking of course :)

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Subject: Re: lingo-l x-post: DMX issues (summary)


On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 01:34  PM, Kevin McFarland wrote:

 I'm trying to summarize known DMX issues, here is what I have come up 
 with so far, from looking at past threads and notes. Any others I'm 
 missing?

 * font width on OSX
 * exitLock broken on OSX?
 * modifier key bugs on OSX, fixed by rebooting
 * inaccurate soundLevel value returned on OSX
 * some Buddy issues on OSX

Maybe I'm the only one seeing this one - idle projectors in OSX 
consuming huge CPU resources for no apparent reason. I notice on my 
Powerbook that the CPU fan comes on whenever there is a projector 
running, or even a shockwave in the browser - my own, or anyone else's. 
CPU averages 80% utilization when the projector is in the background 
looping on a frame with no scripts (other than go to the frame.)

If this doesn't qualify as an issue to be reported, does anyone see 
similar results, or have found a way to eliminate the CPU hogging?

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Re: lingo-l x-post: DMX issues (summary)

2003-06-20 Thread Tab Julius
Could be.. I'll have to watch it more closely.

Most of the commands do end in a right parentheses, as in function(myxtra)

It's possible; at least that would explain it.  Might just be a result of 
typing too fast.

Thanks

- Tab

At 03:31 AM 6/20/03, Alex da Franca wrote:
At 0:52 Uhr -0400 20.06.2003, Tab Julius wrote:
I've noticed that occasionally commands issued in the message window are 
ignored.  I haven't figured out the rhyme or reason to this, but in 
testing various command-line Xtras, occasionally, a call garners no 
result at all.  A breakpoint and/or printout in the Xtra shows it was 
never called.  Re-submitting the command works.

Has anyone else seen this?
could it be by any chance, that you SHIFT-RETURNed by mistake ?
you remember, that there is this new multi line message window feature in 
DiMX ?
shift+return adds a return without executing the line
ctrl+return executes all preceding lines up to the first empty line.
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Re: lingo-l x-post: DMX issues (summary)

2003-06-20 Thread Daniel Nelson

 time animation. The ones that bother me are the little tools that I
 write which use OSControl xtra for all the interface components. They
 are so lightweight that it seems crazy to start the fans blowing -
 which also reduces laptop battery time, of course.


Yes, I wish there were an option to say hey, this is just a regular app, not a 
multimedia project.  It's so very easy to make great looking and functioning stuff in 
Director that it would be nice if it had the ability to act just like other 
applications.

I guess I'll fire off a message to the wishlist.  Maybe if enough people ask for this, 
then they'll do it!

Regards,

Daniel


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Re: lingo-l x-post: DMX issues (summary)

2003-06-20 Thread Troy Rollins
On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 12:17  PM, Daniel Nelson wrote:

You can send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Done. Thanks.

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RE: lingo-l x-post: DMX issues (summary)

2003-06-20 Thread Thomas Higgins
Hey,

 What's the wish list URL? Since Macromedia changed their site 
 around, I don't visit too often.

All bug reports and feature requests should be submitted using the form at the 
following URL:

http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/

Yes, I'm listening to this DMX issues thread and will note all items mentioned. That 
having been said, please do send along any requests via the wishform as well.

Cheers,
Tom Higgins
Product Specialist - Director Team
Macromedia
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Re: lingo-l x-post: DMX issues (summary)

2003-06-20 Thread Daniel Nelson
Thank you Tom for your presence here and for the heads up on the wish-list.

Best Regards,

Daniel

Thomas Higgins wrote:


 All bug reports and feature requests should be submitted using the form at the 
 following URL:

 http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/

 Yes, I'm listening to this DMX issues thread and will note all items mentioned. That 
 having been said, please do send along any requests via the wishform as well.

 Cheers,
 Tom Higgins
 Product Specialist - Director Team
 Macromedia
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Re: lingo-l x-post: DMX issues (summary)

2003-06-19 Thread Buzz Kettles
don't forget the pizza of death issues in the script window

At 10:34 AM -0700 6/19/03, you wrote:
I'm trying to summarize known DMX issues, here is what I have come 
up with so far, from looking at past threads and notes. Any others 
I'm missing?

* font width on OSX
* exitLock broken on OSX?
* modifier key bugs on OSX, fixed by rebooting
* inaccurate soundLevel value returned on OSX
* some Buddy issues on OSX
and of course lots of authoring-only bugs I've read about, e.g. windowing etc

thanks,
KMc
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Re: lingo-l x-post: DMX issues (summary)

2003-06-19 Thread Troy Rollins
On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 01:34  PM, Kevin McFarland wrote:

I'm trying to summarize known DMX issues, here is what I have come up 
with so far, from looking at past threads and notes. Any others I'm 
missing?

* font width on OSX
* exitLock broken on OSX?
* modifier key bugs on OSX, fixed by rebooting
* inaccurate soundLevel value returned on OSX
* some Buddy issues on OSX
Maybe I'm the only one seeing this one - idle projectors in OSX 
consuming huge CPU resources for no apparent reason. I notice on my 
Powerbook that the CPU fan comes on whenever there is a projector 
running, or even a shockwave in the browser - my own, or anyone else's. 
CPU averages 80% utilization when the projector is in the background 
looping on a frame with no scripts (other than go to the frame.)

If this doesn't qualify as an issue to be reported, does anyone see 
similar results, or have found a way to eliminate the CPU hogging?

--
Troy
RPSystems, Ltd.
http://www.rpsystems.net
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Re: lingo-l x-post: DMX issues (summary)

2003-06-19 Thread Daniel Nelson
Hi Troy,

The way Macromedia has explained this is that Director projectors don't actually hog 
the cpu, they just eat up unused cycles.  If I recall correctly, this is aimed to 
handle animation.  Other types of processing can afford to wait--being off by a tenth 
of a second may not really
matter--but a tenth of a second in an animation produces a jerk in the motion.

When another application requests cycles, Director supposedly plays nicely.

Regards,

Daniel


 Maybe I'm the only one seeing this one - idle projectors in OSX
 consuming huge CPU resources for no apparent reason. I notice on my
 Powerbook that the CPU fan comes on whenever there is a projector
 running, or even a shockwave in the browser - my own, or anyone else's.
 CPU averages 80% utilization when the projector is in the background
 looping on a frame with no scripts (other than go to the frame.)

 If this doesn't qualify as an issue to be reported, does anyone see
 similar results, or have found a way to eliminate the CPU hogging?

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Re: lingo-l x-post: DMX issues (summary)

2003-06-19 Thread Howdy-Tzi
On Thursday, Jun 19, 2003, at 23:00 America/Chicago, Daniel Nelson 
wrote:

The way Macromedia has explained this is that Director projectors 
don't actually hog the cpu, they just eat up unused cycles.  If I 
recall correctly, this is aimed to handle animation.
Yeah; I believe taking the framerate down can reduce it, as of course 
can unchecking animate in background but if you have processes that 
must be running, that's not such a hot plan of course. ;)

Also looking over the cpuHogTicks setting might be of value here.

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Re: lingo-l x-post: DMX issues (summary)

2003-06-19 Thread Troy Rollins
On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 12:41  AM, Howdy-Tzi wrote:


The way Macromedia has explained this is that Director projectors 
don't actually hog the cpu, they just eat up unused cycles.  If I 
recall correctly, this is aimed to handle animation.
Yeah; I believe taking the framerate down can reduce it, as of course 
can unchecking animate in background but if you have processes that 
must be running, that's not such a hot plan of course. ;)

Also looking over the cpuHogTicks setting might be of value here.
Thanks, I'm looking into this. I would agree that it does seem to play 
nicely most of the time. The disconcerting part is primarily the fact 
that projectors and shockwaves (nearly) always trigger a Powerbook's 
CPU fan. So whenever you launch a Director based app, after a few 
seconds it sounds like a little airplane revving up - something I 
normally associate with rendering in 3D or other computational heavy 
tasks... not something caused by a little app or utility.

It is not so big a deal in projectors which have a lot of video or real 
time animation. The ones that bother me are the little tools that I 
write which use OSControl xtra for all the interface components. They 
are so lightweight that it seems crazy to start the fans blowing - 
which also reduces laptop battery time, of course.

--
Troy
RPSystems, Ltd.
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Re: lingo-l x-post: DMX issues (summary)

2003-06-19 Thread Tab Julius
I've noticed that occasionally commands issued in the message window are 
ignored.  I haven't figured out the rhyme or reason to this, but in testing 
various command-line Xtras, occasionally, a call garners no result at 
all.  A breakpoint and/or printout in the Xtra shows it was never 
called.  Re-submitting the command works.

Has anyone else seen this?

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