Re: Posting etiquette
Mark Wheeler wrote: I was one of those recent "Moving On" posters, and apologize if that has created concerns on the list. Responses to "Moving on" posts I remember mostly are of the "good luck, it's been nice knowing you" kind. I think Mark was expressing concern about "jobs available" notices, not "work wanted." ANZ Bank (anz.com.au) has just announced its sending lots of jobs tO India. I'm an ANZ customer. I'm wondering what that implies for my privacy, Indian laws are not Australian laws. I'm sure they're not as good as Australian laws, and enforcement is problematic. I don't like the idea of most confidential information about me leaving our shores. What happens when there's an information leak in India? Does Australian law apply? I suspect not. If any employers are thinking sending IT work, these are concerns that need to be addressed. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1...@coco.merseine.nu z1...@coco.merseine.nu -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Posting etiquette
>>> On 3/13/2009 at 6:57 PM, Rich Smrcina wrote: -snip- > Dan: do the list rules allow for a short summary of a new available position > to be posted? Wrong list. ;) Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Posting etiquette
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 12:03 AM, David L. Craig wrote: > MEMO ITSABOY, ITSAGIRL--yup, they were all primordial > Facebook and an extremely important reason why VM > survived. I surely hope there's a place for such > social networking amongst all those who subscribe > herein, even if it not be via this particular facility. For those who are not old enough (or too old and have forgotten) http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare/ Very fond memories indeed when I see the creativity ;-) MEMO ITSABOOK Announcements of books written by VMSHARE residents MEMO ITSABOYBirth Announcements For the Male Gender MEMO ITSADR Announcements of degree conferrals MEMO ITSAGIRL Birth Announcements For the Fairer Sex MEMO ITSATHEM Births are announced in ITSABOY/ITSAGIRL; this file announces weddings -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SWI-PROLOG and OPENJDK
>>> On 3/13/2009 at 5:37 PM, Bruce Furber wrote:
> I have a need for a PROLOG compiler to run on our SLES10 system on zLinux
>
> I attempted to do a source build using SWI-PROLOG downloaded from Opensuse.
> Apparently it uses OPENJDK which I cannot find for S390X.
Hmm. I downloaded swi-prolog-5.6.54-10.3.src.rpm, installed it, deleted two
lines from the .spec file:
--- swi-prolog.spec.orig2009-01-20 20:22:51.0 -0500
+++ swi-prolog.spec 2009-03-13 19:09:12.0 -0400
@@ -20,8 +20,6 @@
BuildRequires: freetype2-devel gcc-c++ gmp-devel libjpeg-devel libpng-devel
mysql-devel openssl-devel postgresql-devel readline-devel unixODBC-devel
xorg-x11 xorg-x11-Xvfb xorg-x11-devel
%if %suse_version > 1020
BuildRequires: texlive texlive-latex
-%else
-BuildRequires: te_ams te_latex
%endif
License:GPL v2 or later; LGPL v2.1 or later
Provides: swi_pl = %{version}-%{release}
and it built for me the first time with "rpmbuild -bb swi-prolog.spec". No
mention of any sort of Java dependency, and certainly not on OpenJDK. How did
you go about it?
Mark Post
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Re: Posting etiquette
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 03:50:57PM -0500, Mark Wheeler wrote: > > These sorts of messages have been used for many years > by members of the VM community to announce retirements, > job changes, etc. The subject "Moving On" was not > arbitrary, tracing back to MEMO MOVING-ON on the > old VMSHARE site (for people old enough to remember > that collaboration occurred amongst VMers long before > "the Internets"). MEMO ITSABOY, ITSAGIRL--yup, they were all primordial Facebook and an extremely important reason why VM survived. I surely hope there's a place for such social networking amongst all those who subscribe herein, even if it not be via this particular facility. -- May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! Dave Craig - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "'So the universe is not quite as you thought it was. You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then. Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe.'" --from _Nightfall_ by Asimov/Silverberg -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SWI-PROLOG and OPENJDK
>>> On 3/13/2009 at 5:37 PM, Bruce Furber wrote: > I have a need for a PROLOG compiler to run on our SLES10 system on zLinux > > I attempted to do a source build using SWI-PROLOG downloaded from Opensuse. > Apparently it uses OPENJDK which I cannot find for S390X. Is it that it is specifically looking for OpenJDK and not finding it, or that it is looking for that, or any other JDK, and not finding any? Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Posting etiquette
Although I certainly appreciate the concept of LinkedIn and what it has to offer (a link to my public profile is in my sig), some people don't have the bandwidth, knowledge or just don't care for that sort of social networking. There could be other reasons for not participating. MEMO postings are a hold over from before Al Gore invented the internet and are very relevant to the audience of the list. Velocity Software is very graciously hosting the jobs list. Every so often a question comes up about jobs and several people will respond with the URL, or Tony Noto from Velocity will just the URL as a reminder. Dan: do the list rules allow for a short summary of a new available position to be posted? D Waldo Anderson wrote: I might suggest creating a presence on LinkedIn not only for job search but also for the many other support information resources offered there. D Waldo Anderson -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2009 - Orlando, FL - May 15-19, 2009 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Posting etiquette
I might suggest creating a presence on LinkedIn not only for job search but also for the many other support information resources offered there. D Waldo Anderson -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
SWI-PROLOG and OPENJDK
I have a need for a PROLOG compiler to run on our SLES10 system on zLinux I attempted to do a source build using SWI-PROLOG downloaded from Opensuse. Apparently it uses OPENJDK which I cannot find for S390X. TIA for any help Bruce -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Posting etiquette
I was one of those recent "Moving On" posters, and apologize if that has created concerns on the list. These sorts of messages have been used for many years by members of the VM community to announce retirements, job changes, etc. The subject "Moving On" was not arbitrary, tracing back to MEMO MOVING-ON on the old VMSHARE site (for people old enough to remember that collaboration occurred amongst VMers long before "the Internets"). Mark Wheeler _ Hotmail® is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: starting 'at the begining' to install linux on z/os
> I am at the beginning of installing Linux on z/os. I thinking > just in an Lpar or two for now, z/vm later. This is an R&D > project just to get it up and running. I have a Z9 and a copy > of SUSE. Now what? What would be the bes t redbook or manual? Steven: I hope you mean you are looking at installing Linux on System z. z/OS is an operating system. :-) Most customers today install under z/VM so that is where most of the documentation points you to. However, there a few older Redbooks on the subject. Just search at http://ibm.com/redbooks for "linux and zseries". Most of these date from the 2001-2004, so you will need to come here for assistance. Jim -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Posting etiquette
And that coming from a person working at a bank in this economic climate ;-) Personally, job offering and searching is for a different format, this should be a technical forum, not a job search tool. Go to Monster.com or Dice.com for a job search. That's my two cents. James Chaplin Systems Programmer, MVS, zVM & zLinux Base Technologies, Inc -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Schneck.Glenn Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 2:12 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Posting etiquette Mark, I have seen job postings on other lists and personally don't see an issue with them. In this economic climate and the potential of each of us being laid off any avenue for employment is appreciated, IMHO. Glenn Glenn A. Schneck AVP, Managed Services, Transaction Services SunTrust Banks, Inc. 407-762-3514 (office) 407-625-2596 (cell) glenn.schn...@suntrust.com Live Solid. Bank Solid. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Barajas Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 1:09 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Posting etiquette Ladies and Gentlemen, I have a question about etiquette of postings into this email list. I've been monitoring and most of the postings are about asking and sharing of technical issues encountered during day to day activities and once in a while about events to benefit everyone. Even once or twice I have seen several of the members posting having to move on. On the last one; I would like to know what would be or if it would be possible for posting for employment opportunities. If this is not the right spot to find folks with this groups skill sets ... would someone be able to direct me to where I might be able to post and find folks? PS This is my first post to the email list and hope that I'm not breaking too many rules. Thanks Mark Barajas Data Center Technologies Accenture - Infrastructure Consulting & Enterprise Architecture If the decisions you made yesterday are in line with your values, don't go back and second-guess yourself. Stick with it, move on, and trust yourself. "A goal is a planned conflict with the status quo." -Hyrum W. Smith "A plan is a list of actions arranged in whatever sequence is thought likely to achieve an objective." -John Argetti This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust is a federally registered service mark of SunTrust Banks, Inc. Live solid. Bank solid. is a service mark of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: starting 'at the begining' to install linux on z/os
That assumes you have access to the HMC in the first place. I don't know what his environment is like, but I'm 1000 miles away from the data center, and in any case, they don't allow anyone NEAR the HMC during business hours. Setting up VM initially might take a little longer (like one day if you know what you're doing), but the benefits come back quickly. The one thing I did forget to mention before is that if you're going to set up an LPAR, it helps to carve out a subset of DASD defined only to that LPAR, and try to standardize the addresses. When you're dealing with real addresses, you can't move them around as easily as you can with virtual minidisks, and Linux will scan ALL available DASD devices on IPL. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of David Andrews Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 12:01 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] starting 'at the begining' to install linux on z/os On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 11:23 -0400, Hall, Ken (GTS) wrote: > The installation on bare metal is tricky (as those of us who have > installed under Hercules have found) and requires access to the HMC for > possibly many sessions to get things right so it will come up and > install. Installing Debian from the HMC cupholder was pretty easy; I got it done in an afternoon. What's more time-consuming is getting the LPAR defined, with the DASD device addresses properly isolated from your production system(s). Took me several iterations with HCD to get it right, and much longer than it took to install Debian itself. (HCD and I don't get along all that well.) There might be some downtime associated with creating a new LPAR, depending on your dynamic-reconfiguration-fu and whether you've got spare memory to carve out. I'm not VM-literate, so it took me less time to build the LPAR than it would have taken me to install and learn VM. (Not to mention that I'd have had to convince someone to pay for it.) DB has a litany of reasons for using z/VM in your Linux farm, and you should generally listen to anything he says... but for my modest purposes a single little LPAR works just fine. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. david.andr...@duda.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- This message w/attachments (message) may be privileged, confidential or proprietary, and if you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, do not use or share it and delete it. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Merrill Lynch. Subject to applicable law, Merrill Lynch may monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its networks/systems. The laws of the country of each sender/recipient may impact the handling of EC, and EC may be archived, supervised and produced in countries other than the country in which you are located. This message cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. References to "Merrill Lynch" are references to any company in the Merrill Lynch & Co., Inc. group of companies, which are wholly-owned by Bank of America Corporation. Securities and Insurance Products: * Are Not FDIC Insured * Are Not Bank Guaranteed * May Lose Value * Are Not a Bank Deposit * Are Not a Condition to Any Banking Service or Activity * Are Not Insured by Any Federal Government Agency. Attachments that are part of this E-communication may have additional important disclosures and disclaimers, which you should read. This message is subject to terms available at the following link: http://www.ml.com/e-communications_terms/. By messaging with Merrill Lynch you consent to the foregoing. -- -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SUSE 9 on Mupltiprise 3000
On Mar 13, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Fridrich, John wrote: Hey out there... Has anyone installed SUSE 9 under z/VM 4.4 on a Multiprise 3000 (7060)??? I have the boot-strap installed and working up to the network part... Can't ping outside the machine so I can't FTP the install back in. Not sure how to configure... or what network interface to use... The 7060 is an odd machine... I've tried the emulated ethernet cards, CTC to VM's IP stack, and directly to the BUSTECH MAN (ESCON attached LCS device) that I run all of my IP traffic through (3270 sessions and VSE's IP stack)... All with no luck... $...@... I've done that many times. Your best bet will be to define a guest LAN inside VM, tell the rest of your network to route to the guest LAN via the VM stack, give VM an interface on that guest LAN, and use VM's interface on the guest LAN as your router for your Linux guests. Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Posting etiquette
>>> On 3/13/2009 at 1:08 PM, Mark Barajas >>> wrote: -snip- > I would like to know what would be or if it would be possible for > posting for employment opportunities. If this is not the right spot to > find folks with this groups skill sets ... would someone be able to > direct me to where I might be able to post and find folks? There have been a few job postings in the past, but not a lot. Each time it has caused some of the list members some consternation,because their employers forbid them to be subscribed (from their work email) to any mailing list where job postings are made, no matter if that's not the main purpose of the list. In some cases, it's cause for termination for them. So, while it's not actually prohibited by anyone, it's also not actively encouraged. There is a no-cost job posting page on Velocity Software's web site. Other than that, I would only say going through one of the commercial sites such as dice.com, monster.com, etc. might be your best bet. Over the last year or so, I have seen a number of mainframe Linux and z/VM jobs pop up there. Although there hasn't been too many people that have announced layoffs, your last option I would say would be looking through the archives of this list and IBMVM. We had one of our members recently get laid off from his job, and he's looking for z/VM and Linux employment in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SUSE 9 on Mupltiprise 3000
Hey in there... There are a couple of ways you can do this. If your Bustech MAN has additional LCS devices defined, DEDICATE a couple of them to the Linux virtual machine and use them in the network setup portion of the Linux installation. Set up a Guest LAN under VM and route it through your VM TCP/IP stack. That will require some routing finesse with your outboard routers and systems, but it is certainly doable. This will require a separate subnet for the Linux virtual machines that use the Guest LAN. The CTC to VM idea is really clunky and will quickly become difficult to maintain. Fridrich, John wrote: Hey out there... Has anyone installed SUSE 9 under z/VM 4.4 on a Multiprise 3000 (7060)??? I have the boot-strap installed and working up to the network part... Can't ping outside the machine so I can't FTP the install back in. Not sure how to configure... or what network interface to use... The 7060 is an odd machine... I've tried the emulated ethernet cards, CTC to VM's IP stack, and directly to the BUSTECH MAN (ESCON attached LCS device) that I run all of my IP traffic through (3270 sessions and VSE's IP stack)... All with no luck... $...@... John Fridrich Systems Programmer San Joaquin County ISD 24 S. Hunter St., Rm5 Stockton, CA 95202 209-468-8413 -- Rich Smrcina VM Assist, Inc. Phone: 414-491-6001 Ans Service: 360-715-2467 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina Catch the WAVV! http://www.wavv.org WAVV 2009 - Orlando, FL - May 15-19, 2009 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Posting etiquette
The following link is provided for this industry at no charge: "http://velocitysoftware.com/jobs/"; This is for posting jobs available and wanted for the VM, VSE and Linux platforms. Mark Barajas wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen, I have a question about etiquette of postings into this email list. I've been monitoring and most of the postings are about asking and sharing of technical issues encountered during day to day activities and once in a while about events to benefit everyone. Even once or twice I have seen several of the members posting having to move on. On the last one; I would like to know what would be or if it would be possible for posting for employment opportunities. If this is not the right spot to find folks with this groups skill sets ... would someone be able to direct me to where I might be able to post and find folks? PS This is my first post to the email list and hope that I'm not breaking too many rules. Thanks Mark Barajas Data Center Technologies Accenture - Infrastructure Consulting & Enterprise Architecture If the decisions you made yesterday are in line with your values, don't go back and second-guess yourself. Stick with it, move on, and trust yourself. "A goal is a planned conflict with the status quo." -Hyrum W. Smith "A plan is a list of actions arranged in whatever sequence is thought likely to achieve an objective." -John Argetti This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 begin:vcard fn:Barton Robinson n:Robinson;Barton adr;dom:;;PO 391209;Mountain View;CA;94039-1209 email;internet:bar...@velocitysoftware.com title:Sr. Architect tel;work:650-964-8867 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:VelocitySoftware.com version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: Posting etiquette
Mark, I have seen job postings on other lists and personally don't see an issue with them. In this economic climate and the potential of each of us being laid off any avenue for employment is appreciated, IMHO. Glenn Glenn A. Schneck AVP, Managed Services, Transaction Services SunTrust Banks, Inc. 407-762-3514 (office) 407-625-2596 (cell) glenn.schn...@suntrust.com Live Solid. Bank Solid. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Barajas Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 1:09 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Posting etiquette Ladies and Gentlemen, I have a question about etiquette of postings into this email list. I've been monitoring and most of the postings are about asking and sharing of technical issues encountered during day to day activities and once in a while about events to benefit everyone. Even once or twice I have seen several of the members posting having to move on. On the last one; I would like to know what would be or if it would be possible for posting for employment opportunities. If this is not the right spot to find folks with this groups skill sets ... would someone be able to direct me to where I might be able to post and find folks? PS This is my first post to the email list and hope that I'm not breaking too many rules. Thanks Mark Barajas Data Center Technologies Accenture - Infrastructure Consulting & Enterprise Architecture If the decisions you made yesterday are in line with your values, don't go back and second-guess yourself. Stick with it, move on, and trust yourself. "A goal is a planned conflict with the status quo." -Hyrum W. Smith "A plan is a list of actions arranged in whatever sequence is thought likely to achieve an objective." -John Argetti This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust is a federally registered service mark of SunTrust Banks, Inc. Live solid. Bank solid. is a service mark of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: starting 'at the begining' to install linux on z/os
Thanks for all of the responses. Yes, as soon as I clicked SEND the thought, Linux doesn't run under z/os but in in an lpar, occurred to me. Any and all help/info is greatly appreciated. Thanks, -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 11:04 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: starting 'at the begining' to install linux on z/os >>> On 3/13/2009 at 11:06 AM, "Gear, Steven" wrote: > Hello, > > I am at the beginning of installing Linux on z/os. I thinking just in an > Lpar or two for now, z/vm later. This is an R&D project just to get it up and > running. I have a Z9 and a copy of SUSE. Now what? What would be the best > redbook or manual? Hi, Steve, Welcome to the mailing list. Now that everyone's been pedantic and told you that z/OS <> mainframe, take a look at http://linuxvm.org/redbooks.html . The second book in that list, " Linux for IBM eServer zSeries and S/390: Distributions" is quite old at this point, but it does describe how to do installations in an LPAR. Don't look to the details of each step to be correct, but the overall flow is going to be similar: - Set up a working NFS, FTP, HTTP, or SMB server that your z9 can reach over the network - IPL from tape or the DVD - Get a working network connection defined - Access the installation server - Once the installation routines are up and running, SSH in (or use VNC) to actually start the install process - At the end of phase 1, reboot the system and SSH in again to complete the configuration. I also strongly recommend you take a look at http://linuxvm.org/Present/SHARE112/S9233mp.pdf , "Linux Installation Planning." The first slide in there talks about the need to get all the other groups in your organization involved up front. If you don't, you're going to have a hard time succeeding. The last few slides lay out all the data you'll need _before_ you start the first IPL from tape. As others have said, getting z/VM installed first would be a really good idea. IBM is usually willing to loan you the hardware and software you'll need to be happy with your R&D results. Trying to run Linux in the white space left over from z/OS is usually not sufficient, and performance is likely to stink. If you do go with z/VM, there is a good "Virtualization Cookbook" on the IBM Redbooks site that will walk you through the process of getting both z/VM and Linux installed: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247493.html Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
SUSE 9 on Mupltiprise 3000
Hey out there... Has anyone installed SUSE 9 under z/VM 4.4 on a Multiprise 3000 (7060)??? I have the boot-strap installed and working up to the network part... Can't ping outside the machine so I can't FTP the install back in. Not sure how to configure... or what network interface to use... The 7060 is an odd machine... I've tried the emulated ethernet cards, CTC to VM's IP stack, and directly to the BUSTECH MAN (ESCON attached LCS device) that I run all of my IP traffic through (3270 sessions and VSE's IP stack)... All with no luck... $...@... John Fridrich Systems Programmer San Joaquin County ISD 24 S. Hunter St., Rm5 Stockton, CA 95202 209-468-8413 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: starting 'at the begining' to install linux on z/os
On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 11:23 -0400, Hall, Ken (GTS) wrote: > The installation on bare metal is tricky (as those of us who have > installed under Hercules have found) and requires access to the HMC for > possibly many sessions to get things right so it will come up and > install. Installing Debian from the HMC cupholder was pretty easy; I got it done in an afternoon. What's more time-consuming is getting the LPAR defined, with the DASD device addresses properly isolated from your production system(s). Took me several iterations with HCD to get it right, and much longer than it took to install Debian itself. (HCD and I don't get along all that well.) There might be some downtime associated with creating a new LPAR, depending on your dynamic-reconfiguration-fu and whether you've got spare memory to carve out. I'm not VM-literate, so it took me less time to build the LPAR than it would have taken me to install and learn VM. (Not to mention that I'd have had to convince someone to pay for it.) DB has a litany of reasons for using z/VM in your Linux farm, and you should generally listen to anything he says... but for my modest purposes a single little LPAR works just fine. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. david.andr...@duda.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Server sizing from AIX to z/Linux - Rules of thumb?
>>> On 3/13/2009 at 12:39 PM, Jim Moling wrote: > Wondering if anyone has some rules-of-thumb for sizing a z/Linux virtual > server for AIX-based workloads, specifically CPU & memory. > All I am looking for are rough guidelines that can be used as a starting > point to estimate resources for moving a workload from a mid-tier platform > (AIX) to a mainframe virtual Linux server. If you want to be conservative, assume "used GigaHertz" will be the same (_not_ "available GigaHertz), and any CPU that's driving I/O on the AIX box will turn into extra capacity on System z. (This can be huge, if AIX is doing lots of I/O.) Many people are able to achieve real storage over commit rates of up to 1.5. I would assume lower, again for the sake of being conservative. But, the best way is to measure an AIX system, move the workload, and then measure again to see how _your_ workload acts. Do this a few times and you should start to get a feel for how things are translating. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Posting etiquette
Ladies and Gentlemen, I have a question about etiquette of postings into this email list. I've been monitoring and most of the postings are about asking and sharing of technical issues encountered during day to day activities and once in a while about events to benefit everyone. Even once or twice I have seen several of the members posting having to move on. On the last one; I would like to know what would be or if it would be possible for posting for employment opportunities. If this is not the right spot to find folks with this groups skill sets ... would someone be able to direct me to where I might be able to post and find folks? PS This is my first post to the email list and hope that I'm not breaking too many rules. Thanks Mark Barajas Data Center Technologies Accenture - Infrastructure Consulting & Enterprise Architecture If the decisions you made yesterday are in line with your values, don't go back and second-guess yourself. Stick with it, move on, and trust yourself. "A goal is a planned conflict with the status quo." -Hyrum W. Smith "A plan is a list of actions arranged in whatever sequence is thought likely to achieve an objective." -John Argetti This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Layer 2 VSWITCH and SUSE 10 starter system problems
Is there a reason why it can't go one step further? You know it's layer capabilities obviously, just use it in the manner it is supposed to be rather than having the administrator code something? Marcy "This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation." -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:28 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Layer 2 VSWITCH and SUSE 10 starter system problems >>> On 3/13/2009 at 4:29 AM, Ursula Braun wrote: -snip- > Cause code 0xf6 has been caught in qeth recently: > http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=com > mitdiff > ;h=fc9c24603c4b93d84160e14c0a98a754d4328d15 > > I am going to discuss with z/VM development whether qeth should catch > cause code 0x4e as well. Ursula, That would be really good. While you're at it, could you perhaps also talk about cause codes 0x04, 0x08, and 0x17? Those have shown up in the past, although not nearly as often as others. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Layer 2 VSWITCH and SUSE 10 starter system problems
>>> On 3/13/2009 at 4:29 AM, Ursula Braun wrote: -snip- > Cause code 0xf6 has been caught in qeth recently: > http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff > ;h=fc9c24603c4b93d84160e14c0a98a754d4328d15 > > I am going to discuss with z/VM development whether qeth should catch > cause code 0x4e as well. Ursula, That would be really good. While you're at it, could you perhaps also talk about cause codes 0x04, 0x08, and 0x17? Those have shown up in the past, although not nearly as often as others. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Server sizing from AIX to z/Linux - Rules of thumb?
Wondering if anyone has some rules-of-thumb for sizing a z/Linux virtual server for AIX-based workloads, specifically CPU & memory. All I am looking for are rough guidelines that can be used as a starting point to estimate resources for moving a workload from a mid-tier platform (AIX) to a mainframe virtual Linux server. For example, we have AIX Server based applications that use a 3-tier architecture that consists of: 1) Web Server - 2 CPU, 2 GB RAM 2) App Server - 4 CPU, 8 GB RAM 3) DB Server - 4 CPU's, 16 GB RAM, 100 GB Storage I realize that it ultimately depends on just how busy a server is in order to determine resource requirements with any degree of accuracy, and explained as much to those that asked me about this, and being short of any empirical data at this point, was hoping that others may have derived some basic guidelines based on their experience. We're looking at potentially moving hundreds of AIX servers onto mainframe-based Linux servers, so trying to get a handle on just what that will mean in terms of resources. I figure the disk-based requirements would be pretty much Gig-for-Gig, but not sure how to factor AIX CPU's to z10 IFL's and the scaling factors going from AIX RAM to central storage. I humbly ask for any help towards getting a better handle on this, which would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jim Moling - This E-mail and its attachments (if any) are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) and may contain sensitive but unclassified information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the E-mail and any attachments. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Total VDISK SPACE ALLOWED for a z/Linux guest
>>> On 3/13/2009 at 11:51 AM, "Martin, Terry R. (LOCKHEED MARTIN Performance Engineering/CTR) (CTR)" wrote: > Hi > > > > I forget, how much VDISK total is allowed for a Linux guest? That's totally arbitrary, and defined in SYSTEM CONFIG. Don't allow too much, because if Linux winds up using it all, it can really hurt your system. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: starting 'at the begining' to install linux on z/os
>>> On 3/13/2009 at 11:06 AM, "Gear, Steven" wrote: > Hello, > > I am at the beginning of installing Linux on z/os. I thinking just in an > Lpar or two for now, z/vm later. This is an R&D project just to get it up and > running. I have a Z9 and a copy of SUSE. Now what? What would be the best > redbook or manual? Hi, Steve, Welcome to the mailing list. Now that everyone's been pedantic and told you that z/OS <> mainframe, take a look at http://linuxvm.org/redbooks.html . The second book in that list, " Linux for IBM eServer zSeries and S/390: Distributions" is quite old at this point, but it does describe how to do installations in an LPAR. Don't look to the details of each step to be correct, but the overall flow is going to be similar: - Set up a working NFS, FTP, HTTP, or SMB server that your z9 can reach over the network - IPL from tape or the DVD - Get a working network connection defined - Access the installation server - Once the installation routines are up and running, SSH in (or use VNC) to actually start the install process - At the end of phase 1, reboot the system and SSH in again to complete the configuration. I also strongly recommend you take a look at http://linuxvm.org/Present/SHARE112/S9233mp.pdf , "Linux Installation Planning." The first slide in there talks about the need to get all the other groups in your organization involved up front. If you don't, you're going to have a hard time succeeding. The last few slides lay out all the data you'll need _before_ you start the first IPL from tape. As others have said, getting z/VM installed first would be a really good idea. IBM is usually willing to loan you the hardware and software you'll need to be happy with your R&D results. Trying to run Linux in the white space left over from z/OS is usually not sufficient, and performance is likely to stink. If you do go with z/VM, there is a good "Virtualization Cookbook" on the IBM Redbooks site that will walk you through the process of getting both z/VM and Linux installed: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247493.html Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Total VDISK SPACE ALLOWED for a z/Linux guest
amnesia? ;-) On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Martin, Terry R. (LOCKHEED MARTIN Performance Engineering/CTR) (CTR) wrote: > Hi > > > > I forget, how much VDISK total is allowed for a Linux guest? > > > > > > Thank You, > > > > Terry Martin > > Lockheed Martin - Information Technology > > z/OS & z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning > > Cell - 443 632-4191 > > Work - 410 786-0386 > > terry.ma...@cms.hhs.gov > > Telecommuting on Fridays - Use my cell phone > > > > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Total VDISK SPACE ALLOWED for a z/Linux guest
Hi I forget, how much VDISK total is allowed for a Linux guest? Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Information Technology z/OS & z/VM Systems - Performance and Tuning Cell - 443 632-4191 Work - 410 786-0386 terry.ma...@cms.hhs.gov Telecommuting on Fridays - Use my cell phone -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: starting 'at the begining' to install linux on z/os
Hi, > I have a Z9 and a copy of SUSE. Now what? What would > be the best redbook or manual? I may be a bit biased, but a lot of people have used the Redbook "z/VM and Linux on IBM System z The Virtualization Cookbook for SLES 10 SP2", SG24-7493, on the Web at http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247493.html "Mike MacIsaac"(845) 433-7061 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Getting Gnome to behave
Mauro Souza wrote:
Your problem isn't with Gnome... You are using twm as your default window
manager... You can change it (as people already said) in your
${HOME}/.vnc/xstartup. Or you could start the service (service, not program)
vncserver for the entire box. Connecting to it will bring you to a login
screen, rather to your crude, barebone desktop...
If I am not mistaken, you can change twm for gnome-wm in your xstartup file
to bring up gnome.
Mauro
http://mauro.limeiratem.com - registered Linux User: 294521
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Just to second this, replacing "twm &" with "gnome-wm &" in
~/.vnc/xstartup will give you the Gnome window manager. To take it a
step further, if you want the Gnome menus, panels and such (full Gnome
desktop), replace with "gnome-session &".
-Brad
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Romanowski, John (OFT) <
john.romanow...@oft.state.ny.us> wrote:
try changing twm to mwm in the xstartup file.
-Original Message-
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Raymond Higgs
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:55 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Getting Gnome to behave
That's when the fun starts - every window that opens starts as a
'skeleton
like grid' attached to the mouse pointer - wherever I left-click the
real
window is placed. This behavior is annoying and I can't figure out
how
to
get it to behave as one would expect. Much Googling hasn't
enlightened
me
either.
Can anyone help me out here ??
Bern - VK2KAD
Edit ${HOME}/.vnc/xstartup to change your window manager.
Ray Higgs
System z FCP Development
Bld. 706, B24
2455 South Road
Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
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Re: starting 'at the begining' to install linux on z/os
Linux does not install on z/OS. No other operating system does. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -^^-^^ "In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different." On 3/13/09 10:06 AM, "Gear, Steven" wrote: > > Hello, > > I am at the beginning of installing Linux on z/os. I thinking just in an > Lpar or two for now, z/vm later. This is an R&D project just to get it up and > running. I have a Z9 and a copy of SUSE. Now what? What would be the best > redbook or manual? > > Thanks, > steve > > -- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: starting 'at the begining' to install linux on z/os
First of all, you don't install Linux on zOS, you install it on either the zSeries processor, or under zVM. About the only part you might need zOS for is to create an IPL tape if you want to install in an LPAR. This isn't recommended though, and I think a lot of folks on this list will echo that, particularly Mr. Boyes, who has a lot of experience with this. The installation on bare metal is tricky (as those of us who have installed under Hercules have found) and requires access to the HMC for possibly many sessions to get things right so it will come up and install. zVM gives you a much more manageable environment to work under, and if you talk to IBM, they're usually more than willing to help with getting it going. The learning curve for getting zVM installed has some bumps, but following the one-page instructions, you can have a basic system up in a couple of hours. Another option, if you're determined to go the LPAR route would be to try it out on your desktop under Hercules (the zSeries emulator), and once you have the process down, go back to the real thing. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Gear, Steven Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 11:06 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [LINUX-390] starting 'at the begining' to install linux on z/os Hello, I am at the beginning of installing Linux on z/os. I thinking just in an Lpar or two for now, z/vm later. This is an R&D project just to get it up and running. I have a Z9 and a copy of SUSE. Now what? What would be the best redbook or manual? Thanks, steve -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- This message w/attachments (message) may be privileged, confidential or proprietary, and if you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender, do not use or share it and delete it. Unless specifically indicated, this message is not an offer to sell or a solicitation of any investment products or other financial product or service, an official confirmation of any transaction, or an official statement of Merrill Lynch. Subject to applicable law, Merrill Lynch may monitor, review and retain e-communications (EC) traveling through its networks/systems. The laws of the country of each sender/recipient may impact the handling of EC, and EC may be archived, supervised and produced in countries other than the country in which you are located. This message cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. References to "Merrill Lynch" are references to any company in the Merrill Lynch & Co., Inc. group of companies, which are wholly-owned by Bank of America Corporation. Securities and Insurance Products: * Are Not FDIC Insured * Are Not Bank Guaranteed * May Lose Value * Are Not a Bank Deposit * Are Not a Condition to Any Banking Service or Activity * Are Not Insured by Any Federal Government Agency. Attachments that are part of this E-communication may have additional important disclosures and disclaimers, which you should read. This message is subject to terms available at the following link: http://www.ml.com/e-communications_terms/. By messaging with Merrill Lynch you consent to the foregoing. -- -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Getting Gnome to behave
Your problem isn't with Gnome... You are using twm as your default window
manager... You can change it (as people already said) in your
${HOME}/.vnc/xstartup. Or you could start the service (service, not program)
vncserver for the entire box. Connecting to it will bring you to a login
screen, rather to your crude, barebone desktop...
If I am not mistaken, you can change twm for gnome-wm in your xstartup file
to bring up gnome.
Mauro
http://mauro.limeiratem.com - registered Linux User: 294521
Scripture is both history, and a love letter from God.
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Romanowski, John (OFT) <
john.romanow...@oft.state.ny.us> wrote:
> try changing twm to mwm in the xstartup file.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
> > Raymond Higgs
> > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:55 PM
> > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Getting Gnome to behave
> >
> > > That's when the fun starts - every window that opens starts as a
> > 'skeleton
> > > like grid' attached to the mouse pointer - wherever I left-click the
> > real
> > > window is placed. This behavior is annoying and I can't figure out
> > how
> > to
> > > get it to behave as one would expect. Much Googling hasn't
> > enlightened
> > me
> > > either.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Can anyone help me out here ??
> > >
> > > Bern - VK2KAD
> >
> > Edit ${HOME}/.vnc/xstartup to change your window manager.
> >
> > Ray Higgs
> > System z FCP Development
> > Bld. 706, B24
> > 2455 South Road
> > Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
> > (845) 435-8666, T/L 295-8666
> > rayhi...@us.ibm.com
> >
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starting 'at the begining' to install linux on z/os
Hello, I am at the beginning of installing Linux on z/os. I thinking just in an Lpar or two for now, z/vm later. This is an R&D project just to get it up and running. I have a Z9 and a copy of SUSE. Now what? What would be the best redbook or manual? Thanks, steve -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: help setting up email on suse
>>> On 3/13/2009 at 8:44 AM, LJ Mace wrote: > I think this subject has been broached here before, but for the life of me I > can't find it. My wife complains I don't look hard enough so please be gentle > in your criticism. > Problem:I want to set up email to just a few select users on my system. I > have some displays I want to take then email them to mine/their outlook > accounts. > I am unsure how to do this even where to start, so please start slow, speak > in small words, and be kind. If you have the postfix package installed (and you almost certainly do), there shouldn't be anything you need to do except start sending emails. chkconfig --list postfix postfix 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:on 4:off 5:on 6:off rcpostfix status Checking for service Postfix: running netstat -ln | grep :25 tcp0 0 127.0.0.1:250.0.0.0:* LISTEN You may have to edit /etc/postfix/main.cf to specify the "relayhost =" parameter, if there's a specific relay host that your organization wants internal email senders to use. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
help setting up email on suse
I think this subject has been broached here before, but for the life of me I can't find it. My wife complains I don't look hard enough so please be gentle in your criticism. Problem:I want to set up email to just a few select users on my system. I have some displays I want to take then email them to mine/their outlook accounts. I am unsure how to do this even where to start, so please start slow, speak in small words, and be kind. thanks mace -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Getting Gnome to behave
try changing twm to mwm in the xstartup file.
> -Original Message-
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
> Raymond Higgs
> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:55 PM
> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: Getting Gnome to behave
>
> > That's when the fun starts - every window that opens starts as a
> 'skeleton
> > like grid' attached to the mouse pointer - wherever I left-click the
> real
> > window is placed. This behavior is annoying and I can't figure out
> how
> to
> > get it to behave as one would expect. Much Googling hasn't
> enlightened
> me
> > either.
> >
> >
> >
> > Can anyone help me out here ??
> >
> > Bern - VK2KAD
>
> Edit ${HOME}/.vnc/xstartup to change your window manager.
>
> Ray Higgs
> System z FCP Development
> Bld. 706, B24
> 2455 South Road
> Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
> (845) 435-8666, T/L 295-8666
> rayhi...@us.ibm.com
>
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Re: Layer 2 VSWITCH and SUSE 10 starter system problems
>>> On 3/12/2009 at 3:37 PM, Alan Altmark wrote: > On Thursday, 03/12/2009 at 02:40 EDT, Mark Post wrote: >> > I get an IDX TERMINATE with cause code 0xf6, which I have read some of >> > the archives that said that was a layer2/layer3 mismatch error. >> >> I'm pretty sure that would be a 0x4e error, since I just deliberately > caused >> that mismatch on one of my test systems to check. > > - 0x4E means the adapter doesn't understand what the device driver told > it. Either a bad primitive was sent or the operands are bad. This could > be because you've configured Linux to speak "OSA" but you defined a > "HIPERS" NIC. Cause code 0xf6 has been caught in qeth recently: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=fc9c24603c4b93d84160e14c0a98a754d4328d15 I am going to discuss with z/VM development whether qeth should catch cause code 0x4e as well. Ursula Braun Linux on System z Development IBM Germany -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
