Re: Windows emulation
Hi. I usually use cygwin, starts the xserver, a xterm and login via ssh to a zlinux server using ssh -X server.ip.nr and from where I just can start any xwindow pgm that will start in my cygwin-xserver. ___ Tore Agblad Volvo Information Technology Infrastructure Mainframe Design Development, Linux servers Dept 4352 DA1S SE-405 08, Gothenburg Sweden Telephone: +46-31-3233569 E-mail: tore.agb...@volvo.com http://www.volvo.com/volvoit/global/en-gb/ -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Bernie VK2KAD Sent: den 6 oktober 2009 05:01 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Windows emulation Thanks for the response - I just need a little translation into IBM sysprog-ese to get this concept clear. I am running a windows desktop so I downloaded Xming to use as the Xserver - It installed OK - I then ran Xlaunch to get it going - xming.exe appears as a running process in Task Manager - to configure I selected display number 0 (zero) and accepted all other defaults. On my Zlinux I issued -bash-4.0# set DISPLAY=20.250.180.96:0,0;export DISPLAY Then to test I issued -bash-4.0# xeyes Error: Can't open display: I can ping 20.250.180.96 from zLinux and in a Putty SSH session so I know I have IP connectivity. I'm not sure what make sure you have run 'xhost +remote.linux.system' on the desktop system means in the context of the above config. I used xeyes as a test because I don't have xterm (my Zlinux is Fedora11 and xterm doesn't appear when I enter z + TAB in bash. More help needed as I am still in the deep-end floundering ;) Bern -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, 1 October 2009 11:37 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Windows emulation On 10/1/09 12:35 AM, Bernie VK2KAD vk2...@hotmail.com wrote: I am trying to get bochs working on Fedora11. I am using the Hercules image that was distributed in Jun/Jul timeframe running under Hercules 3.06 After manually installing the BIOS images I was able to cleanly install bochs - when I went to start it I realised that I would need xwindows so I then did yum install Xorg* - the install occurred without a glitch - then when I go to startx I get the following - I am now at the deep end and floundering - can anyone suggest what steps I need to proceed ??? You do not want to run the X server on the Z10, you run the X server on the desktop machine you are going to use as a display. The default startx script tries to start a X server on the same host -- which it's not going to do because z machines don't have frame buffers. If you are in bash on the Linux guest, start X on your desktop system, make sure you have run 'xhost +remote.linux.system' on the desktop system and use: set DISPLAY=your.desktop.workstation:0.0;export DISPLAY on the remote guest. And then run bochs. The DISPLAY environment variable is used by the X libraries to figure out where to actually send the display information. This is true for all X applications. You can test if you set it up right by doing the above set command and then typing: 'xterm '. If a window appears on your desktop, you're ready to go. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
CAVMEN Meeting on Thursday, October 22, 2009
The fourth quarter meeting of the Chicago Area VM (and Linux) Enthusiasts will be held on Thursday, October 22, 2009. Due to speaker scheduling problems, the afternoon sessions have not been assigned as yet. Since the IBM z EXPO is being held this week, I may not have the afternoon sessions confirmed until next week. I will send out agenda updates as information becomes available. There is still road construction work in progress in the area around Hewitt Associates. The situation changes weekly, so I will send out a construction update on the Tuesday before the meeting. My intention is to have the handouts for each of the sessions available for download on the website by the Tuesday before the meeting.. This will give everyone a chance to print them in advance if they so desire. I will put them online as soon as I receive them from the speakers. -- Meeting Location: This quarter's meeting will be held at the Hewitt Associates 'East Campus' located at 100 Half Day Road, in Lincolnshire, IL. We will meet in Conference Room 100-M3, in Building 100, just off the cafeteria. If you have not attended a meeting at this location before, or you are not familiar with the area, http://cavmen.home.comcast.net/hewittb99.htmlClick here for additional information on directions, maps, lodging and dining. -- Attendance: We would like to request a count of expected attendees by the Monday before the meeting, so that we may plan appropriately for arranging the facilities, and for refreshments and lunch, should one of the vendors wish to provide them. If you are planning to attend, PLEASE send an E-Mail by that date to mailto:cav...@comcast.netcav...@comcast.net with a subject line of Meeting Attendance. This is meant to be a facilities planning aid and should not be interpreted as a registration requirement. If you suddenly become available at the last minute, please feel free to attend even if you have not responded. Thank you in advance for your cooperation in this matter. -- Meeting Agenda: 9:00 AM z/VM Platform Update: Introducing z/VM V6.1 - Advancing the Art of Server Virtualization This presentation will highlight the new functions available with z/VM V6.1, IBM's newest version of advanced server virtualization support for IBM System z. Building on the functionally rich base of z/VM Version 5.4, z/VM V6.1, previewed on July 7, 2009, further enhances the economic attractiveness of consolidating workloads on the mainframe. Find out how z/VM V6.1 on IBM System z10 advances the art of enterprise virtualization. The speaker will also provide an overview of future z/VM support (statements of direction) included in the z/VM V6.1 preview announcement. The speaker will be Alan Altmark of the IBM Corporation. 10:30 AMCoffee Break 11:00 AMSecurity Zones in z/VM In multi-tier network applications, there is usually the concept of demilitarized zones, or DMZs, that each contain a set of servers. Each DMZ is separated from others by firewalls and by access policies to ensure that there is no unwanted user access or flow of data. Learn in this presentation how to properly build virtual DMZs and to integrate virtual servers into your existing DMZs. We will also discuss using the RACF Security Server on z/VM to prevent a red zone server from connecting to a green zone network or green zone data... The speaker will be Alan Altmark of the IBM Corporation. 12:30 PMLunch Break 1:30 PM Administration and Vendor Announcements 1:45 PM Linux on z Update The speaker will present a brief update of recent developments in the Linux under z/VM area. The speaker will be Paul Augustyniak of the IBM Corporation. 2:00 PM Third Presentation The topic is to be determined. The speaker is to be determined. 3:15 PM Coffee Break and Prize Drawing 3:30 PM Fourth Presentation The topic is to be determined. The speaker is to be determined. 4:45 PM Free-for-All Members will attempt to answer any reasonable VM or hardware related questions. If you are having a problem and want to find out if others are experiencing it, or you are installing new hardware or software and want to find out what types of problems others have experienced, here is the place to find out. Members are encouraged to bring ideas for future presentations and speakers to this meeting. -- Please check the WEB site for Map and Directions: http://cavmen.home.comcast.net In addition, you will also find extensive information available on dining and lodging in the Hewitt Associates area. Additional information about the CAVMEN group, and other VM related items of interest are available on our web site. There is no charge for admission to meetings. Meeting attendance is open to anyone, and advance registration is not required. I look forward to seeing all of you at the meeting.
Re: Windows emulation
On 10/5/09 11:00 PM, Bernie VK2KAD vk2...@hotmail.com wrote: I am running a windows desktop so I downloaded Xming to use as the Xserver - It installed OK - I then ran Xlaunch to get it going - xming.exe appears as a running process in Task Manager - to configure I selected display number 0 (zero) and accepted all other defaults. So far, so good. On my Zlinux I issued -bash-4.0# set DISPLAY=20.250.180.96:0,0;export DISPLAY That should be a period (.) between the last pair of 0s, eg set DISPLAY=foo.bar.baz:0.0;export DISPLAY You're specifying video-adapter.display attached to adapter with that :0.0. The comma is a syntax error. Then to test I issued -bash-4.0# xeyes Error: Can't open display: I can ping 20.250.180.96 from zLinux and in a Putty SSH session so I know I have IP connectivity. There's one more step... I'm not sure what make sure you have run 'xhost +remote.linux.system' on the desktop system means in the context of the above config. On top of connectivity between client and server, X also has a crude permission scheme that controls what hosts are allowed to project client windows onto your screen. The whole X protocol is a series of transactions between the client application and the X server -- the X server is basically a rendering engine for a set of standard primitives supplied by the client, and sends mouse movements and key presses back to the client as standardized event structures. The xhost application is the key to authorizing a host to project events onto your X server and/or receive events back -- if you haven't told the X server on your Windows machine that clients on remote.linux.system are allowed to project things, you get the Can't open display error (although in your case, I think the comma in the DISPLAY spec is what's messing you up). You can get there, but the host doesn't have permission to use that display. Running 'xhost +remote.linux.system' allows the remote.linux.system host to use the display currently pointed to by the DISPLAY environment variable. You could just do xhost + (which allows the whole world to connect), but that also allows ANYONE to inject ANY X event into your X server -- or grab any event coming FROM your X server, like typing your password. You typically need to do this on the local system running the X server (there's a chicken/egg problem here in that you need to authorize the remote system to connect and do things, but you can't do that until you authorize the remote system), so there's some special case code in xhost and the X server to check if they're on the same system and let the request through. Most non-Unix PC implementations finesse this by just automatically authorizing everyone, but they really shouldn't. I used xeyes as a test because I don't have xterm (my Zlinux is Fedora11 and xterm doesn't appear when I enter z + TAB in bash. Ouch. Xeyes will work, but realize that it processes EVERY mouse movement you make as a stream of events, which will burn CPU like crazy. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Windows emulation
You also need to go into Xming's directory ( C:\Program Files\Xming on my machine ), bring up X0.hosts in notepad, and add the hosts that will be permitted to connect to your desktop ( I prefer using IP addresses rather than names - a dns/internal political issue ) David Boyes dbo...@sinenomin e.net To Sent by: Linux on LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 390 Port cc linux-...@vm.mar IST.EDU Subject Re: Windows emulation 10/06/2009 07:19 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port linux-...@vm.mar IST.EDU On 10/5/09 11:00 PM, Bernie VK2KAD vk2...@hotmail.com wrote: I am running a windows desktop so I downloaded Xming to use as the Xserver - It installed OK - I then ran Xlaunch to get it going - xming.exe appears as a running process in Task Manager - to configure I selected display number 0 (zero) and accepted all other defaults. So far, so good. On my Zlinux I issued -bash-4.0# set DISPLAY=20.250.180.96:0,0;export DISPLAY That should be a period (.) between the last pair of 0s, eg set DISPLAY=foo.bar.baz:0.0;export DISPLAY You're specifying video-adapter.display attached to adapter with that :0.0. The comma is a syntax error. Then to test I issued -bash-4.0# xeyes Error: Can't open display: I can ping 20.250.180.96 from zLinux and in a Putty SSH session so I know I have IP connectivity. There's one more step... I'm not sure what make sure you have run 'xhost +remote.linux.system' on the desktop system means in the context of the above config. On top of connectivity between client and server, X also has a crude permission scheme that controls what hosts are allowed to project client windows onto your screen. The whole X protocol is a series of transactions between the client application and the X server -- the X server is basically a rendering engine for a set of standard primitives supplied by the client, and sends mouse movements and key presses back to the client as standardized event structures. The xhost application is the key to authorizing a host to project events onto your X server and/or receive events back -- if you haven't told the X server on your Windows machine that clients on remote.linux.system are allowed to project things, you get the Can't open display error (although in your case, I think the comma in the DISPLAY spec is what's messing you up). You can get there, but the host doesn't have permission to use that display. Running 'xhost +remote.linux.system' allows the remote.linux.system host to use the display currently pointed to by the DISPLAY environment variable. You could just do xhost + (which allows the whole world to connect), but that also allows ANYONE to inject ANY X event into your X server -- or grab any event coming FROM your X server, like typing your password. You typically need to do this on the local system running the X server (there's a chicken/egg problem here in that you need to authorize the remote system to connect and do things, but you can't do that until you authorize the remote system), so there's some special case code in xhost and the X server to check if they're on the same system and let the request through. Most non-Unix PC implementations finesse this by just automatically authorizing everyone, but they really shouldn't. I used xeyes as a test because I don't have xterm (my Zlinux is Fedora11 and xterm doesn't appear when I enter z + TAB in bash. Ouch. Xeyes will work, but realize that it processes EVERY mouse movement you make as a stream of events, which will burn CPU like crazy. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Windows emulation
If I recall aright, cygwin is a real win since it automagically copes with ssh -X. Other than that, are you sure you've done the equivalent of xhost + hostname so that your laptop will allow the incoming connection? Is your Windows firewalling set up to allow such a connection to make it into the laptop? (As I seem to recall, the Windows firewall is usually delivered to only let malware port connections into the machine... :-) ) (All right, back in Windows 3.11 days, I tended to rename win.com to lose.com... and W95 took the opportunity for that little irony out of my hands.) Why you are running to a Windoze workstation, though...:-) :-) :-) (Don't mind me-- almost 9 years inside IBM had be spoiled since IBM's C4EB was a whole lot better than the Windoze builds in terms of RAM and DASD use... and the Lotus Workplace actually ran faster and felt more stable... followed by 2+ years as a contractor at Verizon where there ain't no Linux access to the VPN grated on my nerves...) -soup On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 8:19 AM, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: On 10/5/09 11:00 PM, Bernie VK2KAD vk2...@hotmail.com wrote: I am running a windows desktop so I downloaded Xming to use as the Xserver - It installed OK - I then ran Xlaunch to get it going - xming.exe appears as a running process in Task Manager - to configure I selected display number 0 (zero) and accepted all other defaults. So far, so good. On my Zlinux I issued -bash-4.0# set DISPLAY=20.250.180.96:0,0;export DISPLAY That should be a period (.) between the last pair of 0s, eg set DISPLAY=foo.bar.baz:0.0;export DISPLAY You're specifying video-adapter.display attached to adapter with that :0.0. The comma is a syntax error. Then to test I issued -bash-4.0# xeyes Error: Can't open display: I can ping 20.250.180.96 from zLinux and in a Putty SSH session so I know I have IP connectivity. There's one more step... I'm not sure what make sure you have run 'xhost +remote.linux.system' on the desktop system means in the context of the above config. On top of connectivity between client and server, X also has a crude permission scheme that controls what hosts are allowed to project client windows onto your screen. The whole X protocol is a series of transactions between the client application and the X server -- the X server is basically a rendering engine for a set of standard primitives supplied by the client, and sends mouse movements and key presses back to the client as standardized event structures. The xhost application is the key to authorizing a host to project events onto your X server and/or receive events back -- if you haven't told the X server on your Windows machine that clients on remote.linux.system are allowed to project things, you get the Can't open display error (although in your case, I think the comma in the DISPLAY spec is what's messing you up). You can get there, but the host doesn't have permission to use that display. Running 'xhost +remote.linux.system' allows the remote.linux.system host to use the display currently pointed to by the DISPLAY environment variable. You could just do xhost + (which allows the whole world to connect), but that also allows ANYONE to inject ANY X event into your X server -- or grab any event coming FROM your X server, like typing your password. You typically need to do this on the local system running the X server (there's a chicken/egg problem here in that you need to authorize the remote system to connect and do things, but you can't do that until you authorize the remote system), so there's some special case code in xhost and the X server to check if they're on the same system and let the request through. Most non-Unix PC implementations finesse this by just automatically authorizing everyone, but they really shouldn't. I used xeyes as a test because I don't have xterm (my Zlinux is Fedora11 and xterm doesn't appear when I enter z + TAB in bash. Ouch. Xeyes will work, but realize that it processes EVERY mouse movement you make as a stream of events, which will burn CPU like crazy. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- John R. Campbell Speaker to Machines souperb at gmail dot com MacOS X proved it was easier to make Unix user-friendly than to fix Windows -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Remove a user from a secondary group
I know how to add a user to a second group, for example to give su authority (using wheel)to a user, we issue the following command: usermod -G wheel testur4 But how can I remove him in a single command without directly editing the /etc/group /etc/gshadow files (vigr). Is there a single command? James Chaplin Systems Programmer, MVS, zVM zLinux Base Technologies, Inc Supporting the zSeries Platform Team -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux vswitch layer2 OSA-Express2 (z9 ) to OSA-EXPRESS3 1000T (z10 ) migration issue
Marcy, I would like to know if you picked up an updated microcode on the OSA3 and then reloaded it or just force reloaded on it. We are running OSA CODE LEVEL = 0732 and would like to double check with your OSA code level. We were pointed to kernel 2.6.25 when we opened an ETR with IBM on this issue. Did you also upgrade to a new kernel for the OSA3. We are running kernel 2.6.18-164.el5. We checked all of VSWITCH, NIC def and Linux interface definitions and everything appears to be correct. We made sure we defined the network as layer 2 confirmed from sysfs. Thank you, Ashwin -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 12:17 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Linux vswitch layer2 OSA-Express2 (z9 ) to OSA-EXPRESS3 1000T (z10 ) migration issue In addition to what Alan said about your config and maintenance, you might want to take the OSA chpid completely offline and back on to force it to reload its microcode. We had some OSA issues last week with a z9-z10 upgrade and the reload fixed them. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 10:12 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Linux vswitch layer2 OSA-Express2 (z9 ) to OSA-EXPRESS3 1000T (z10 ) migration issue On Friday, 10/02/2009 at 12:16 EDT, Bhemidhi, Ashwin ashw...@ti.com wrote: This was a layer 2 vswitch before and after the move. Also if I need to delete and re-define do I just do it in Linux or we also need to delete and re-define in z/VM guest ID( I do not see if this matters). I tried deleting and re-defining the network interface in the guest but with no success. I still get the same error: qdio: loading QDIO base support version 2 qeth: loading qeth S/390 OSA-Express driver qeth: received an IDX TERMINATE with cause code 0xf6 qeth: The qeth device 0.0.0800 is not configured for the OSI layer required by z/VM qeth: sense data available on channel 0.0.0800. qeth: cstat 0x0 dstat 0xE qeth: irb: 00 c2 60 17 04 98 90 38 0e 00 10 00 00 80 00 00 qeth: irb: 01 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 qeth: sense data: 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 qeth: sense data: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 qeth: Initialization in hardsetup failed! rc=-5 qeth: received an IDX TERMINATE with cause code 0xf6 0xF6 is specifically issued when the VSWITCH type doesn't match the way the guest has previously configured the adapter. You could get this error if the guest tried to configure layer 3 on an layer 2 VSWITCH or the guest configured the vNIC prior to the COUPLE to the VSWITCH. All that would be required is to log the user off/on or detach the NIC and re-define it. If the ONLY thing you changed was z9-z10 and you have the support for OSA-Express3 (if that's what you're using) applied, then call it in. Just double-check that Linux is configured to do layer 2. I have seen systems do odd things after a h/w change because something was dependent on the system identifier or CPU serial number. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux vswitch layer2 OSA-Express2 (z9 ) to OSA-EXPRESS3 1000T (z10 ) migration issue
We are running OSA code level 7.33 according to osa/sf * CHPID DD information follows * CHPID -- DD PCHID -- 0381 Hardware model - OSA-Direct Express3 Subtype Gigabit Ethernet Reset indicator Not required Modes configured --- None Processor code level --- 07.33 We have both SLES 9 (2.6.5-7.317) and SLES 10 (2.6.16.60-0.39.3) across layer 2 vswitch. It'z z/VM 5.4 RSU 0902. We didn't pick up a newer level with the reload (I had ran osa/sf before it and the number was the same as it is now). Are you running RedHat? It sounds like you may have an issue to report to them. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Bhemidhi, Ashwin Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 9:14 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Linux vswitch layer2 OSA-Express2 (z9 ) to OSA-EXPRESS3 1000T (z10 ) migration issue Marcy, I would like to know if you picked up an updated microcode on the OSA3 and then reloaded it or just force reloaded on it. We are running OSA CODE LEVEL = 0732 and would like to double check with your OSA code level. We were pointed to kernel 2.6.25 when we opened an ETR with IBM on this issue. Did you also upgrade to a new kernel for the OSA3. We are running kernel 2.6.18-164.el5. We checked all of VSWITCH, NIC def and Linux interface definitions and everything appears to be correct. We made sure we defined the network as layer 2 confirmed from sysfs. Thank you, Ashwin -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 12:17 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Linux vswitch layer2 OSA-Express2 (z9 ) to OSA-EXPRESS3 1000T (z10 ) migration issue In addition to what Alan said about your config and maintenance, you might want to take the OSA chpid completely offline and back on to force it to reload its microcode. We had some OSA issues last week with a z9-z10 upgrade and the reload fixed them. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 10:12 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Linux vswitch layer2 OSA-Express2 (z9 ) to OSA-EXPRESS3 1000T (z10 ) migration issue On Friday, 10/02/2009 at 12:16 EDT, Bhemidhi, Ashwin ashw...@ti.com wrote: This was a layer 2 vswitch before and after the move. Also if I need to delete and re-define do I just do it in Linux or we also need to delete and re-define in z/VM guest ID( I do not see if this matters). I tried deleting and re-defining the network interface in the guest but with no success. I still get the same error: qdio: loading QDIO base support version 2 qeth: loading qeth S/390 OSA-Express driver qeth: received an IDX TERMINATE with cause code 0xf6 qeth: The qeth device 0.0.0800 is not configured for the OSI layer required by z/VM qeth: sense data available on channel 0.0.0800. qeth: cstat 0x0 dstat 0xE qeth: irb: 00 c2 60 17 04 98 90 38 0e 00 10 00 00 80 00 00 qeth: irb: 01 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 qeth: sense data: 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 qeth: sense data: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 qeth: Initialization in hardsetup failed! rc=-5 qeth: received an IDX TERMINATE with cause code 0xf6 0xF6 is specifically issued when the VSWITCH type doesn't match the way the guest has previously configured the adapter. You could get this error if the guest tried to configure layer 3 on an layer 2 VSWITCH or the guest configured the vNIC prior to the COUPLE to the VSWITCH. All that would be required is to log the user off/on or detach the NIC and re-define it. If the ONLY thing you changed was z9-z10 and you have the support
Re: Remove a user from a secondary group
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR) Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 11:06 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Remove a user from a secondary group I know how to add a user to a second group, for example to give su authority (using wheel)to a user, we issue the following command: usermod -G wheel testur4 But how can I remove him in a single command without directly editing the /etc/group /etc/gshadow files (vigr). Is there a single command? James Chaplin Assuming that I haven't gone totally insane. usermod -a -G newgroup existinguser #add newgroup usermod -G oldgroup existinguser #remove oldgroup -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Novell iPrint Server using SLES on System z?
Greeting Listers... I have been getting plenty of questions within our organization lately regarding the support capabilities of the zLinux environment for a variety of service and infrastructure applications we employone of the latest is Novell's iPrint (which we are a heavy user of) I know that iPrint is supported on SLES on the x86 platform, but the question has come up (multiple times) Is iPrint supported under SLES on System z? Can we virtualize it like other infrastructure services on z? It's supported on SLES on x86.why not SLES on System z?SLES and iPrint are both Novell products. you get the idea. This is a common and obviously oversimplified perspective, but it's there nonetheless. ;-) Anyway, the short answer from Novell is: Nothe longer answer is: It is not currently on the map, some reasons technical (undetermined), some reasons business case. But since our organization is looking at everything we can to determine viability for consolidation/virtualization, I wanted to query the list on a few things: 1. Are other organizations out there using iPrint on SLES (on x86) who are also using SLES on System z? 2. If Novell iPrint were an option for SLES on System z (and you were using iPrint) would you host it on System z? If not, can you share your rationale/perspective? 3. Does there appear to be a business case/demand out there for Novell to support iPrint under SLES on System z (that Novell is unaware of)? 4. Is it even worthwhile to explore (like I don't have enough to do already)? Thanks in advance for your thoughts and perspectives, Gene Gene Carter Capital Group Companies 3500 Wiseman Blvd San Antonio, TX 78251 210-474-3194 gene_car...@capgroup.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux vswitch layer2 OSA-Express2 (z9 ) to OSA-EXPRESS3 1000T (z10 ) migration issue
Marcy, Thank you for the information. We are running Redhat and have an opened an issue with them. Redhat support escalated the case with their engineers. So I am waiting on them. Ashwin -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 11:29 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Linux vswitch layer2 OSA-Express2 (z9 ) to OSA-EXPRESS3 1000T (z10 ) migration issue We are running OSA code level 7.33 according to osa/sf * CHPID DD information follows * CHPID -- DD PCHID -- 0381 Hardware model - OSA-Direct Express3 Subtype Gigabit Ethernet Reset indicator Not required Modes configured --- None Processor code level --- 07.33 We have both SLES 9 (2.6.5-7.317) and SLES 10 (2.6.16.60-0.39.3) across layer 2 vswitch. It'z z/VM 5.4 RSU 0902. We didn't pick up a newer level with the reload (I had ran osa/sf before it and the number was the same as it is now). Are you running RedHat? It sounds like you may have an issue to report to them. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Bhemidhi, Ashwin Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 9:14 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Linux vswitch layer2 OSA-Express2 (z9 ) to OSA-EXPRESS3 1000T (z10 ) migration issue Marcy, I would like to know if you picked up an updated microcode on the OSA3 and then reloaded it or just force reloaded on it. We are running OSA CODE LEVEL = 0732 and would like to double check with your OSA code level. We were pointed to kernel 2.6.25 when we opened an ETR with IBM on this issue. Did you also upgrade to a new kernel for the OSA3. We are running kernel 2.6.18-164.el5. We checked all of VSWITCH, NIC def and Linux interface definitions and everything appears to be correct. We made sure we defined the network as layer 2 confirmed from sysfs. Thank you, Ashwin -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 12:17 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Linux vswitch layer2 OSA-Express2 (z9 ) to OSA-EXPRESS3 1000T (z10 ) migration issue In addition to what Alan said about your config and maintenance, you might want to take the OSA chpid completely offline and back on to force it to reload its microcode. We had some OSA issues last week with a z9-z10 upgrade and the reload fixed them. Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 10:12 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Linux vswitch layer2 OSA-Express2 (z9 ) to OSA-EXPRESS3 1000T (z10 ) migration issue On Friday, 10/02/2009 at 12:16 EDT, Bhemidhi, Ashwin ashw...@ti.com wrote: This was a layer 2 vswitch before and after the move. Also if I need to delete and re-define do I just do it in Linux or we also need to delete and re-define in z/VM guest ID( I do not see if this matters). I tried deleting and re-defining the network interface in the guest but with no success. I still get the same error: qdio: loading QDIO base support version 2 qeth: loading qeth S/390 OSA-Express driver qeth: received an IDX TERMINATE with cause code 0xf6 qeth: The qeth device 0.0.0800 is not configured for the OSI layer required by z/VM qeth: sense data available on channel 0.0.0800. qeth: cstat 0x0 dstat 0xE qeth: irb: 00 c2 60 17 04 98 90 38 0e 00 10 00 00 80 00 00 qeth: irb: 01 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 qeth: sense data: 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 qeth: sense data: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 qeth: Initialization in hardsetup failed! rc=-5 qeth: received
Re: Novell iPrint Server using SLES on System z?
On Oct 6, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Eugene Carter wrote: 1. Are other organizations out there using iPrint on SLES (on x86) who are also using SLES on System z? 2. If Novell iPrint were an option for SLES on System z (and you were using iPrint) would you host it on System z? If not, can you share your rationale/perspective? 3. Does there appear to be a business case/demand out there for Novell to support iPrint under SLES on System z (that Novell is unaware of)? 4. Is it even worthwhile to explore (like I don't have enough to do already)? NDPS is *so* 1998. Unless you still have actual Netware somewhere it's just using LPR/LPD and IPP anyway, I think. The rest of the world is using CUPS these days, as far as I can tell, which works fine on z. So, my responses in order would be: 1) dunno 2) no--I'd use CUPS, which is open and well-supported 3) *I* don't see it 4) no Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Linux article
Did anyone form here see this? Thoughts?? Mace http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid39_gci1369845,00.html?track=NL-795ad=728889asrc=EM_NLN_9453824uid=5701628 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Remove a user from a secondary group
On 10/6/2009 at 12:06 PM, CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR) james.chap...@associates.dhs.gov wrote: I know how to add a user to a second group, for example to give su authority (using wheel)to a user, we issue the following command: usermod -G wheel testur4 But how can I remove him in a single command without directly editing the /etc/group /etc/gshadow files (vigr). Is there a single command? When you use usermod -G group1,group2,group3 username, any groups that username is a member of, but are not listed on the command, are removed. I.e., each usermod -G command must specify _all_ the groups you want them to be in. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Novell iPrint Server using SLES on System z?
On 10/6/2009 at 12:50 PM, Eugene Carter gene_car...@capgroup.com wrote: -snip- 1. Are other organizations out there using iPrint on SLES (on x86) who are also using SLES on System z? Yes. 2. If Novell iPrint were an option for SLES on System z (and you were using iPrint) would you host it on System z? If not, can you share your rationale/perspective? I'm not a customer, so I won't comment here. 3. Does there appear to be a business case/demand out there for Novell to support iPrint under SLES on System z (that Novell is unaware of)? I believe so. I won't say we have a _lot_ of customers running things like iPrint and eDirectory that also have mainframes, but we do have some, and most of them would like to run them on SLES on System z. 4. Is it even worthwhile to explore (like I don't have enough to do already)? If you don't, the Novell product managers for those products will never get the message. (We've been telling them ourselves they should do this, but as with any other vendor, if it doesn't come from a customer, it doesn't seem to matter much.) Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Novell iPrint Server using SLES on System z?
On 10/6/2009 at 1:00 PM, Adam Thornton athorn...@sinenomine.net wrote: -snip- 2) no--I'd use CUPS, which is open and well-supported Unless you were already an iPrint customer, in which case this answer would be different. Like you, I've never done much, if anything, with iPrint. The customers who have really like it. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Remove a user from a secondary group
Thanks Mark, . . . that's the answer, and I did not know this. James Chaplin Systems Programmer, MVS, zVM zLinux Base Technologies, Inc -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 2:33 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Remove a user from a secondary group On 10/6/2009 at 12:06 PM, CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR) james.chap...@associates.dhs.gov wrote: I know how to add a user to a second group, for example to give su authority (using wheel)to a user, we issue the following command: usermod -G wheel testur4 But how can I remove him in a single command without directly editing the /etc/group /etc/gshadow files (vigr). Is there a single command? When you use usermod -G group1,group2,group3 username, any groups that username is a member of, but are not listed on the command, are removed. I.e., each usermod -G command must specify _all_ the groups you want them to be in. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Adam is moving on...
Some of you know this already, and some of you don't: Last month, I was offered a great opportunity at another organization that will allow me to focus my career in a way I have been interested in for quite a while. I accepted that position, knowing that my customers at SNA would be in good hands after I left. As a result, this Friday is my last day with SNA. Sine Nomine and its owners have been quite supportive of my move, for which I am very grateful. I intend to continue reading the Linux on 390 and VM mailing lists, but I am no longer going to be working with zSeries boxes as part of my job (I will continue to play with Hercules in my Copious Free Time), so my advice may grow even less useful than it currently is. Anyone who wants a non-work email address of mine and doesn't already have one, please contact me off-list. Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Oracle Client on SLES 10
Has anyone installed this yet? It worked fine on SLES 9. I keep running into OUI-15038 rule CertifiedVersion OSChecks failed and if I ignore them, the link fails with: INFO: /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/bin/genclntsh INFO: /usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/lib/stubs/libdl.so when searching for -ldl /usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/lib/stubs/libm.so when searching for -lm /usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product INFO: /10.2.0/db_1/lib/stubs/libnsl.so when searching for -lnsl /usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/lib/stubs/librt.so when searching for -lrt /usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/lib/libclient10.a(obindps.o): relocation R_390_PC32 against `ocibndps' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC /u INFO: sr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: final link failed: Bad value collect2: ld returned 1 exit status INFO: genclntsh: Failed to link libclntsh.so.10.1 make: *** [client_sharedlib] Error 1 INFO: End output from spawned process. INFO: -- INFO: Exception thrown from action: make Exception Name: MakefileException Exception String: Error in invoking target 'client_sharedlib' of makefile '/opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/network/lib/ins_net_client.mk'. See '/opt/oracle/app/oracle/oraInventory/logs/installActions2009-10-06_12-29-26PM.log' for details. Exception Severity: 1 Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Oracle Client on SLES 10
I think I answered my own question through google. I need patch 6007358. Now off to get that... Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:35 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [LINUX-390] Oracle Client on SLES 10 Has anyone installed this yet? It worked fine on SLES 9. I keep running into OUI-15038 rule CertifiedVersion OSChecks failed and if I ignore them, the link fails with: INFO: /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/bin/genclntsh INFO: /usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/lib/stubs/libdl.so when searching for -ldl /usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/lib/stubs/libm.so when searching for -lm /usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product INFO: /10.2.0/db_1/lib/stubs/libnsl.so when searching for -lnsl /usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/lib/stubs/librt.so when searching for -lrt /usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/lib/libclient10.a(obindps.o): relocation R_390_PC32 against `ocibndps' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC /u INFO: sr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: final link failed: Bad value collect2: ld returned 1 exit status INFO: genclntsh: Failed to link libclntsh.so.10.1 make: *** [client_sharedlib] Error 1 INFO: End output from spawned process. INFO: -- INFO: Exception thrown from action: make Exception Name: MakefileException Exception String: Error in invoking target 'client_sharedlib' of makefile '/opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/network/lib/ins_net_client.mk'. See '/opt/oracle/app/oracle/oraInventory/logs/installActions2009-10-06_12-29-26PM.log' for details. Exception Severity: 1 Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux article
Did anyone form here see this? Thoughts?? Couple observations: 1) They're counting only RHEL and SLES. Doesn't count Ubuntu, which seems to power most of the netbooks where there seems to be significant expansion both on the desktop and in the data center (same OS on desktop and server gets points). 2) As noted: in a tight economy, don't fix it if it ain't broke. If people have working stuff, they aren't messing with it. We've finally made the point IMHO that people are the expensive part of IT, and that's what companies are economizing on: people. It takes a lot less people to run what you have rather than try to do something new. 3) I think the virtualization angle is somewhat specious. People just aren't buying hardware if they can avoid it, thus fewer licenses. 4) The support market for Linux is finally maturing to the point that the major vendors aren't the only game in town, and there is a lot of customized distribution creation going on, which isn't counted in this. Cf Scientific Linux, embedded Linux devices, etc. Seemed FUDish. --d b -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux article
On Wed, October 7, 2009 10:08, David Boyes wrote: Did anyone form here see this? Thoughts?? Couple observations: 1) They're counting only RHEL and SLES. Doesn't count Ubuntu, which seems to power most of the netbooks where there seems to be significant expansion both on the desktop and in the data center (same OS on desktop and server gets points). It also doesn't gel with RH's published figures for the year. If people aren't using more Linux, why are RedHat (and, I hope, SuSE) making more money and selling more stuff? -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
NPIV known problems?
Does anyone know if there are any known problems with NPIV and Suse 10 SP2? We're trying to add NPIV to one of our Suse 10 test systems, and having a spectacularly unsuccessful time. When we turned the NPIV bit on, we lost access to all the fcp dasd that had been working without any problems, so we turned NPIV off on the original channel, and added another channel; all the defined fcp devices started working again, and then we turned NPIV on for the new channel. VM can see the new channel and the addresses that have been dedicated to the Suse test system. Suse can see the channel, and reports the following during boot: scsi3 : zfcp zfcp: The adapter 0.0.f101 reported the following characteristics: WWNN 0x5005076400c36e0d, WWPN 0xc05076fd6b000784, S_ID 0x00701401, adapter version 0x4, LIC version 0x70e, FC link speed 4 Gb/s zfcp: Switched fabric fibrechannel network detected at adapter 0.0.f101. However, when we go into yast2, the fcp function cannot (or will not) define a new device on the new NPIV channel address. It sees the channel address when it does the scan during startup (the address shows up in the add a device pulldown box), but most of the time it doesn't seem to like the WWPN, and we've tried every WWPN we've been able to find that looked like it might work. We can see the channel and the address on the HMC, and the switch. So far, it looks like we can see the NPIV channel where ever we look, but that's about it. Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful. Thank you. Sue Sivets -- Suzanne Sivets Systems Programmer Innovation Data Processing 275 Paterson Ave Little Falls, NJ 07424-1658 973-890-7300 Fax 973-890-7147 ssiv...@fdrinnovation.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Oracle Client on SLES 10
Marcy, i have this patch, i will sent to you tomorrow morning. i'm at my home now. On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.comwrote: I think I answered my own question through google. I need patch 6007358. Now off to get that... Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Marcy Cortes Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:35 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [LINUX-390] Oracle Client on SLES 10 Has anyone installed this yet? It worked fine on SLES 9. I keep running into OUI-15038 rule CertifiedVersion OSChecks failed and if I ignore them, the link fails with: INFO: /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/bin/genclntsh INFO: /usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/lib/stubs/libdl.so when searching for -ldl /usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/lib/stubs/libm.so when searching for -lm /usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product INFO: /10.2.0/db_1/lib/stubs/libnsl.so when searching for -lnsl /usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/lib/stubs/librt.so when searching for -lrt /usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/lib/libclient10.a(obindps.o): relocation R_390_PC32 against `ocibndps' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC /u INFO: sr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: final link failed: Bad value collect2: ld returned 1 exit status INFO: genclntsh: Failed to link libclntsh.so.10.1 make: *** [client_sharedlib] Error 1 INFO: End output from spawned process. INFO: -- INFO: Exception thrown from action: make Exception Name: MakefileException Exception String: Error in invoking target 'client_sharedlib' of makefile '/opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/network/lib/ ins_net_client.mk'. See '/opt/oracle/app/oracle/oraInventory/logs/installActions2009-10-06_12-29-26PM.log' for details. Exception Severity: 1 Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Adam is moving on...
Adam Thornton wrote: Some of you know this already, and some of you don't: Last month, I was offered a great opportunity at another organization that will allow me to focus my career in a way I have been interested in for quite a while. I accepted that position, knowing that my customers at SNA would be in good hands after I left. As a result, this Friday is my last day with SNA. Sine Nomine and its owners have been quite supportive of my move, for which I am very grateful. Have fun! -- Cheers John -- spambait 1...@coco.merseine.nu z1...@coco.merseine.nu -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: emulating a z/OS DDNAME dataset concatenation in Linux
John McKown wrote: I'm a z/OS (and back to OS/VS1) type person. I don't know of any way to I remember PCP, MFT and MVT[-) do this as I think you want to. What I assume is that you basically want to do one open() type function, and have the run time give you the records from the file(s) in the concatenation without any more work on your part anod only get an eof() indication at the end of the last file. Now, I can envision writing a subroutine to do this, but I don't know of one built in to, say, glibc. Now Perl does this if you do something like: I haven;t seen anyone offer a suggestion that will work for a program that expects one input file that is not stdin. I think this does what you want. fred (cat lots of files) It's called process substitution. and you can read all about it in the bash manpage. The above example is a special case, one could also filter input (using grep maybe) or generate a report from a database (postgresql and psql perhaps), and the analogue for writing also works. #!/bin/perl while () { print $_; } and invoke it: perl -f program.pl file1.txt file2.data it will read file1.txt and file2.data in that while() loop. But something like C or Java generally won't. On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 22:08, BISHOP, Peter wrote: Hi, I've searched around and drawn a blank. What I'm wondering is whether there is a method in Linux that emulates a z/OS DDNAME's facility of allowing multiple datasets to be concatenated and effectively treated as one file. I looked at symbolic links, the cat command, variants of the mount command, but didn't see anything clearly supporting this. The ability supported by the DDNAME concept of not needing to copy the files to concatenate them is important as we want to avoid as much overhead as possible. What we'd like to do is run a job on zLinux that accesses multiple z/OS datasets in one file, as is done with the DDNAME concept with z/OS JCL. Can NFS in some way support this? I think NFS will only use the mount command anyway, but has it another route than that? Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. Best regards Peter Peter Bishop HP Enterprise Services Asia Pacific South Mainframe Capability Engineering +61 2 9012 5147 office | +61 2 9012 6620 fax | peter.bis...@hp.com 36-46 George St | Burwood | NSW 2134 Australia -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Cheers John -- spambait 1...@coco.merseine.nu z1...@coco.merseine.nu -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Novell iPrint Server using SLES on System z?
Eugene Carter wrote: Greeting Listers... I have been getting plenty of questions within our organization lately regarding the support capabilities of the zLinux environment for a variety of service and infrastructure applications we employone of the latest is Novell's iPrint (which we are a heavy user of) In each case you should ask the question of the supplier[1], Novell in this instance, and since Novell is involved I would also ask SUSE. Only the software supplier can give a definitive answer (unless you find happy users), and by _formally_ asking the supplier you go to establish the need, a no now may become a yes in the future. [1] I don't think it would hurt to ask, in the case the answer's no, for suggested alternatives. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1...@coco.merseine.nu z1...@coco.merseine.nu -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Using IPTABLES in SLES10 (NAT)
Samir Reddahi wrote: Hi Florian, You can use the boot.local (/etc/init.d/boot.local) to add the commands. The boot.local is executed right before the runlevel change. That sounds like The Wrong Way. If you use the SUSE firewall tools, it's best to use them properly, not work around things you don't understand. How would your successor be able to do it. I use RHEL-clone and Debian with shorewall, and not SLES much at all so I can't really comment on specifics, but I have the impression that some other parts of SLES expect the firewall scripts to work in a certain way, so substituting others may not be practical. OTHO SUSE configuration tools are, in my estimation, generally better than RH's, and Debian doesn't assume one uses a firewall at all (but provides several tools for managing them). In your position, I'd start by reading the documentation. All of it. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1...@coco.merseine.nu z1...@coco.merseine.nu -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: HELP's in
Gary Cox wrote: HELP One upon a time Mr Mrs Sin had a baby. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1...@coco.merseine.nu z1...@coco.merseine.nu -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: HELP's in
John Summerfield wrote: Gary Cox wrote: HELP One upon a time Mr Mrs Sin had a baby. He as just a small Sin. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1...@coco.merseine.nu z1...@coco.merseine.nu -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: HELP's in
John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: Gary Cox wrote: HELP One upon a time Mr Mrs Sin had a baby. He was just a small Sin. Over time, as babies do, he grew. He became a bigger Sin. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1...@coco.merseine.nu z1...@coco.merseine.nu -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: HELP's in
John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: Gary Cox wrote: HELP One upon a time Mr Mrs Sin had a baby. He was just a small Sin. Over time, as babies do, he grew. He became a bigger Sin. He joined the priesthood, and became Father Sin. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1...@coco.merseine.nu z1...@coco.merseine.nu -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: HELP's in
John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: Gary Cox wrote: HELP One upon a time Mr Mrs Sin had a baby. He was just a small Sin. Over time, as babies do, he grew. He became a bigger Sin. He joined the priesthood, and became Father Sin. Years passed, and he found favour in the Church. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1...@coco.merseine.nu z1...@coco.merseine.nu -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: NPIV known problems?
Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 10/06/2009 06:33:00 PM: Sue Sivets ssiv...@fdrinnovation.com Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 10/06/2009 06:33 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject NPIV known problems? Does anyone know if there are any known problems with NPIV and Suse 10 SP2? We're trying to add NPIV to one of our Suse 10 test systems, and having a spectacularly unsuccessful time. When we turned the NPIV bit on, we lost access to all the fcp dasd that had been working without any problems, so we turned NPIV off on the original channel, and added another channel; all the defined fcp devices started working again, and then we turned NPIV on for the new channel. VM can see the new channel and the addresses that have been dedicated to the Suse test system. Suse can see the channel, and reports the following during boot: scsi3 : zfcp zfcp: The adapter 0.0.f101 reported the following characteristics: WWNN 0x5005076400c36e0d, WWPN 0xc05076fd6b000784, S_ID 0x00701401, adapter version 0x4, LIC version 0x70e, FC link speed 4 Gb/s zfcp: Switched fabric fibrechannel network detected at adapter 0.0.f101. However, when we go into yast2, the fcp function cannot (or will not) define a new device on the new NPIV channel address. It sees the channel address when it does the scan during startup (the address shows up in the add a device pulldown box), but most of the time it doesn't seem to like the WWPN, and we've tried every WWPN we've been able to find that looked like it might work. We can see the channel and the address on the HMC, and the switch. So far, it looks like we can see the NPIV channel where ever we look, but that's about it. Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful. Thank you. Sue Sivets -- Suzanne Sivets Systems Programmer Innovation Data Processing 275 Paterson Ave Little Falls, NJ 07424-1658 973-890-7300 Fax 973-890-7147 ssiv...@fdrinnovation.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 I would try to use san_disc to see what is in your fabric. There is a good example in the san_disc manpage. Follow the example through -c PORT_LIST. If you do not see the WWPN of your storage array, then it is probably a zoning issue. I hope this helps. Ray Higgs System z FCP Development Bld. 706, B24 2455 South Road Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 (845) 435-8666, T/L 295-8666 rayhi...@us.ibm.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: HELP's in
John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: Gary Cox wrote: HELP One upon a time Mr Mrs Sin had a baby. He was just a small Sin. Over time, as babies do, he grew. He became a bigger Sin. He joined the priesthood, and became Father Sin. Years passed, and he found favour in the Church. Eventually, -- Cheers John -- spambait 1...@coco.merseine.nu z1...@coco.merseine.nu -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: HELP's in
Dude - please stop flooding my email -- just put in one post - if it ain't funny in one post ... it ain't funny. Scott On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:39 PM, John Summerfield deb...@herakles.homelinux.org wrote: John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: Gary Cox wrote: HELP One upon a time Mr Mrs Sin had a baby. He was just a small Sin. Over time, as babies do, he grew. He became a bigger Sin. He joined the priesthood, and became Father Sin. Years passed, and he found favour in the Church. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1...@coco.merseine.nu z1...@coco.merseine.nu -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.htmlhttp://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: HELP's in
John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: Gary Cox wrote: HELP One upon a time Mr Mrs Sin had a baby. He was just a small Sin. Over time, as babies do, he grew. He became a bigger Sin. He joined the priesthood, and became Father Sin. Years passed, and he found favour in the Church. Eventually, he became Cardinal Sin. -- Cheers John -- spambait 1...@coco.merseine.nu z1...@coco.merseine.nu -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 You cannot reply off-list:-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux article
David writes: ... 1) They're counting only RHEL and SLES. Doesn't count Ubuntu, which seems to power most of the netbooks ... FWIW, I recently bought an ASUS eee PC900 and it runs Debian. I think they've sold a lot of netbooks. -- --henry schaffer -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux article
On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 09:50:14PM -0400, Henry E Schaffer wrote: David writes: ... 1) They're counting only RHEL and SLES. Doesn't count Ubuntu, which seems to power most of the netbooks ... FWIW, I recently bought an ASUS eee PC900 and it runs Debian. I think they've sold a lot of netbooks. Actually, the ASUS EeePC versions with Linux on them come with Xandros, which is a derivative of Debian. The distrinction is rather important because they run on two completely different release schedules. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: HELP's in
John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: John Summerfield wrote: Gary Cox wrote: HELP One upon a time Mr Mrs Sin had a baby. He was just a small Sin. Over time, as babies do, he grew. He became a bigger Sin. He joined the priesthood, and became Father Sin. Years passed, and he found favour in the Church. Eventually, he became Cardinal Sin. Not to be confused with Ordinal. :-) (sighs) I apologize-- though not very much-- for the Pascal reference. -- John R. Campbell Speaker to Machines souperb at gmail dot com MacOS X proved it was easier to make Unix user-friendly than to fix Windows -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Linux article
On 10/6/2009 at 5:37 PM, Rodger Donaldson rodg...@diaspora.gen.nz wrote: -snip- why are RedHat (and, I hope, SuSE) making more money and selling more stuff? In our particular case, up 38% year over year. So yeah, FUD. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Oracle Client on SLES 10
No need, but thanks anyway. An Oracle DBA here retrieved it for me. All is well (although this is ugly - I won't be able to command line install this thing on the other 21 servers). Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390