Re: Windows emulation

2009-10-06 Thread Agblad Tore
Hi.
I usually use cygwin, starts the xserver, a xterm and login via ssh
to a zlinux server using ssh -X server.ip.nr
and from where I just can start any xwindow pgm that will start in my
cygwin-xserver. 


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-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Bernie 
VK2KAD
Sent: den 6 oktober 2009 05:01
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Windows emulation

Thanks for the response - I just need a little translation into IBM
sysprog-ese to get this concept clear.


I am running a windows desktop so I downloaded Xming to use as the Xserver -
It installed OK - I then ran Xlaunch to get it going - xming.exe appears as
a running process in Task Manager - to configure I selected display number 0
(zero) and accepted all other defaults.

On my Zlinux I issued
-bash-4.0# set DISPLAY=20.250.180.96:0,0;export DISPLAY
Then to test I issued
-bash-4.0# xeyes
Error: Can't open display:

I can ping 20.250.180.96 from zLinux and in a Putty SSH session so I know I
have IP connectivity.


I'm not sure what  make sure you have run 'xhost +remote.linux.system' on
the desktop system means in the context of the above config.  I used xeyes
as a test because I don't have xterm (my Zlinux is Fedora11 and xterm
doesn't appear when I enter z + TAB in bash.

More help needed as I am still in the deep-end floundering  ;)

Bern



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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of David
Boyes
Sent: Thursday, 1 October 2009 11:37 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Windows emulation

On 10/1/09 12:35 AM, Bernie VK2KAD vk2...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I am trying to get bochs working on Fedora11.

 I am using the Hercules image that was distributed in Jun/Jul timeframe
 running under Hercules 3.06

 After manually installing the BIOS images I was able to cleanly install
 bochs - when I went to start it I realised that I would need xwindows so I
 then did yum install Xorg* - the install occurred without a glitch -
then
 when I go to startx I get the following - I am now at the deep end and
 floundering - can anyone suggest what steps I need to proceed ???

You do not want to run the X server on the Z10, you run the X server on the
desktop machine you are going to use as a display. The default startx script
tries to start a X server on the same host -- which it's not going to do
because z machines don't have frame buffers.

If you are in bash on the Linux guest, start X on your desktop system, make
sure you have run 'xhost +remote.linux.system' on the desktop system and
use:

set DISPLAY=your.desktop.workstation:0.0;export DISPLAY

on the remote guest. And then run bochs. The DISPLAY environment variable is
used by the X libraries to figure out where to actually send the display
information.

This is true for all X applications. You can test if you set it up right by
doing the above set command and then typing: 'xterm '. If a window appears
on your desktop, you're ready to go.

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CAVMEN Meeting on Thursday, October 22, 2009

2009-10-06 Thread Chicago Area VM (and Linux) Enthusiasts

The fourth quarter meeting of the Chicago Area VM (and Linux)
Enthusiasts will be held on Thursday, October 22, 2009.

Due to speaker scheduling problems, the afternoon sessions have not
been assigned as yet.   Since the IBM z EXPO is being held this week,
I may not have the afternoon sessions confirmed until next week.  I
will send out agenda updates as information becomes available.

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Hewitt Associates.  The situation changes weekly, so I will send out
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Re: Windows emulation

2009-10-06 Thread David Boyes
On 10/5/09 11:00 PM, Bernie VK2KAD vk2...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I am running a windows desktop so I downloaded Xming to use as the Xserver -
 It installed OK - I then ran Xlaunch to get it going - xming.exe appears as
 a running process in Task Manager - to configure I selected display number 0
 (zero) and accepted all other defaults.

So far, so good. 
 
 On my Zlinux I issued
 -bash-4.0# set DISPLAY=20.250.180.96:0,0;export DISPLAY

That should be a period (.) between the last pair of 0s, eg

set DISPLAY=foo.bar.baz:0.0;export DISPLAY

You're specifying video-adapter.display attached to adapter with that :0.0.
The comma is a syntax error.

 Then to test I issued
 -bash-4.0# xeyes
 Error: Can't open display:
 
 I can ping 20.250.180.96 from zLinux and in a Putty SSH session so I know I
 have IP connectivity.

There's one more step...
 
 I'm not sure what  make sure you have run 'xhost +remote.linux.system' on
 the desktop system means in the context of the above config.

On top of connectivity between client and server, X also has a crude
permission scheme that controls what hosts are allowed to project client
windows onto your screen.  The whole X protocol is a series of transactions
between the client application and the X server -- the X server is basically
a rendering engine for a set of standard primitives supplied by the client,
and sends mouse movements and key presses back to the client as standardized
event structures. 

The xhost application is the key to authorizing a host to project events
onto your X server and/or receive events back -- if you haven't told the X
server on your Windows machine that clients on remote.linux.system are
allowed to project things, you get the Can't open display error (although in
your case, I think the comma in the DISPLAY spec is what's messing you up).
You can get there, but the host doesn't have permission to use that display.

Running 'xhost +remote.linux.system' allows the remote.linux.system host to
use the display currently pointed to by the DISPLAY environment variable.
You could just do xhost + (which allows the whole world to connect), but
that also allows ANYONE to inject ANY X event into your X server -- or grab
any event coming FROM your X server, like typing your password.

You typically need to do this on the local system running the X server
(there's a chicken/egg problem here in that you need to authorize the remote
system to connect and do things, but you can't do that until you authorize
the remote system), so there's some special case code in xhost and the X
server to check if they're on the same system and let the request through.

Most non-Unix PC implementations finesse this by just automatically
authorizing everyone, but they really shouldn't.

 I used xeyes
 as a test because I don't have xterm (my Zlinux is Fedora11 and xterm
 doesn't appear when I enter z + TAB in bash.

Ouch. Xeyes will work, but realize that it processes EVERY mouse movement
you make as a stream of events, which will burn CPU like crazy.

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Re: Windows emulation

2009-10-06 Thread Bruce . Lightsey
You also need to go into Xming's directory ( C:\Program Files\Xming  on my
machine ), bring up X0.hosts in notepad, and add the hosts that will be
permitted to connect to your desktop ( I prefer using IP addresses rather
than names - a dns/internal political issue )





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On 10/5/09 11:00 PM, Bernie VK2KAD vk2...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I am running a windows desktop so I downloaded Xming to use as the
Xserver -
 It installed OK - I then ran Xlaunch to get it going - xming.exe appears
as
 a running process in Task Manager - to configure I selected display
number 0
 (zero) and accepted all other defaults.

So far, so good.

 On my Zlinux I issued
 -bash-4.0# set DISPLAY=20.250.180.96:0,0;export DISPLAY

That should be a period (.) between the last pair of 0s, eg

set DISPLAY=foo.bar.baz:0.0;export DISPLAY

You're specifying video-adapter.display attached to adapter with that :0.0.
The comma is a syntax error.

 Then to test I issued
 -bash-4.0# xeyes
 Error: Can't open display:

 I can ping 20.250.180.96 from zLinux and in a Putty SSH session so I know
I
 have IP connectivity.

There's one more step...

 I'm not sure what  make sure you have run 'xhost +remote.linux.system'
on
 the desktop system means in the context of the above config.

On top of connectivity between client and server, X also has a crude
permission scheme that controls what hosts are allowed to project client
windows onto your screen.  The whole X protocol is a series of transactions
between the client application and the X server -- the X server is
basically
a rendering engine for a set of standard primitives supplied by the client,
and sends mouse movements and key presses back to the client as
standardized
event structures.

The xhost application is the key to authorizing a host to project events
onto your X server and/or receive events back -- if you haven't told the X
server on your Windows machine that clients on remote.linux.system are
allowed to project things, you get the Can't open display error (although
in
your case, I think the comma in the DISPLAY spec is what's messing you up).
You can get there, but the host doesn't have permission to use that
display.

Running 'xhost +remote.linux.system' allows the remote.linux.system host to
use the display currently pointed to by the DISPLAY environment variable.
You could just do xhost + (which allows the whole world to connect), but
that also allows ANYONE to inject ANY X event into your X server -- or grab
any event coming FROM your X server, like typing your password.

You typically need to do this on the local system running the X server
(there's a chicken/egg problem here in that you need to authorize the
remote
system to connect and do things, but you can't do that until you authorize
the remote system), so there's some special case code in xhost and the
X
server to check if they're on the same system and let the request through.

Most non-Unix PC implementations finesse this by just automatically
authorizing everyone, but they really shouldn't.

 I used xeyes
 as a test because I don't have xterm (my Zlinux is Fedora11 and xterm
 doesn't appear when I enter z + TAB in bash.

Ouch. Xeyes will work, but realize that it processes EVERY mouse movement
you make as a stream of events, which will burn CPU like crazy.

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Re: Windows emulation

2009-10-06 Thread John Campbell
If I recall aright, cygwin is a real win since it automagically copes
with ssh -X.

Other than that, are you sure you've done the equivalent of xhost +
hostname so that your laptop will allow the incoming connection?  Is
your Windows firewalling set up to allow such a connection to make it
into the laptop?  (As I seem to recall, the Windows firewall is
usually delivered to only let malware port connections into the
machine...   :-)   )

(All right, back in Windows 3.11 days, I tended to rename win.com to
lose.com... and W95 took the opportunity for that little irony out of
my hands.)

Why you are running to a Windoze workstation, though...:-)   :-)   :-)

(Don't mind me--  almost 9 years inside IBM had be spoiled since IBM's
C4EB was a whole lot better than the Windoze builds in terms of RAM
and DASD use... and the Lotus Workplace actually ran faster and felt
more stable...  followed by 2+ years as a contractor at Verizon where
there ain't no Linux access to the VPN grated on my nerves...)

-soup

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 8:19 AM, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote:
 On 10/5/09 11:00 PM, Bernie VK2KAD vk2...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I am running a windows desktop so I downloaded Xming to use as the Xserver -
 It installed OK - I then ran Xlaunch to get it going - xming.exe appears as
 a running process in Task Manager - to configure I selected display number 0
 (zero) and accepted all other defaults.

 So far, so good.

 On my Zlinux I issued
 -bash-4.0# set DISPLAY=20.250.180.96:0,0;export DISPLAY

 That should be a period (.) between the last pair of 0s, eg

 set DISPLAY=foo.bar.baz:0.0;export DISPLAY

 You're specifying video-adapter.display attached to adapter with that :0.0.
 The comma is a syntax error.

 Then to test I issued
 -bash-4.0# xeyes
 Error: Can't open display:

 I can ping 20.250.180.96 from zLinux and in a Putty SSH session so I know I
 have IP connectivity.

 There's one more step...

 I'm not sure what  make sure you have run 'xhost +remote.linux.system' on
 the desktop system means in the context of the above config.

 On top of connectivity between client and server, X also has a crude
 permission scheme that controls what hosts are allowed to project client
 windows onto your screen.  The whole X protocol is a series of transactions
 between the client application and the X server -- the X server is basically
 a rendering engine for a set of standard primitives supplied by the client,
 and sends mouse movements and key presses back to the client as standardized
 event structures.

 The xhost application is the key to authorizing a host to project events
 onto your X server and/or receive events back -- if you haven't told the X
 server on your Windows machine that clients on remote.linux.system are
 allowed to project things, you get the Can't open display error (although in
 your case, I think the comma in the DISPLAY spec is what's messing you up).
 You can get there, but the host doesn't have permission to use that display.

 Running 'xhost +remote.linux.system' allows the remote.linux.system host to
 use the display currently pointed to by the DISPLAY environment variable.
 You could just do xhost + (which allows the whole world to connect), but
 that also allows ANYONE to inject ANY X event into your X server -- or grab
 any event coming FROM your X server, like typing your password.

 You typically need to do this on the local system running the X server
 (there's a chicken/egg problem here in that you need to authorize the remote
 system to connect and do things, but you can't do that until you authorize
 the remote system), so there's some special case code in xhost and the X
 server to check if they're on the same system and let the request through.

 Most non-Unix PC implementations finesse this by just automatically
 authorizing everyone, but they really shouldn't.

 I used xeyes
 as a test because I don't have xterm (my Zlinux is Fedora11 and xterm
 doesn't appear when I enter z + TAB in bash.

 Ouch. Xeyes will work, but realize that it processes EVERY mouse movement
 you make as a stream of events, which will burn CPU like crazy.

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Remove a user from a secondary group

2009-10-06 Thread CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR)
I know how to add a user to a second group, for example to give su
authority (using wheel)to a user, we issue the following command:
usermod -G wheel testur4

But how can I remove him in a single command without directly editing
the /etc/group  /etc/gshadow files (vigr). Is there a single command?

James Chaplin
Systems Programmer, MVS, zVM  zLinux
Base Technologies, Inc
Supporting the zSeries Platform Team

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Re: Linux vswitch layer2 OSA-Express2 (z9 ) to OSA-EXPRESS3 1000T (z10 ) migration issue

2009-10-06 Thread Bhemidhi, Ashwin
Marcy, 

I would like to know if you picked up an updated microcode on the OSA3 and then 
reloaded it or just force reloaded on it. We are running OSA CODE LEVEL = 0732 
and would like to double check with your OSA code level.

We were pointed to kernel 2.6.25 when we opened an ETR with IBM on this issue. 
Did you also upgrade to a new kernel for the OSA3. We are running kernel 
2.6.18-164.el5.

We checked all of VSWITCH, NIC def and Linux interface definitions and 
everything appears to be correct. We made sure we defined the network as layer 
2 confirmed from sysfs. 


Thank you,
Ashwin 

-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Marcy 
Cortes
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 12:17 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Linux vswitch layer2 OSA-Express2 (z9 ) to OSA-EXPRESS3 1000T (z10 
) migration issue

In addition to what Alan said about your config and maintenance, you might want 
to take the OSA chpid completely offline and back on to force it to reload its 
microcode.   We had some OSA issues last week with a z9-z10 upgrade and the 
reload fixed them.


Marcy 

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Alan 
Altmark
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 10:12 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Linux vswitch layer2 OSA-Express2 (z9 ) to 
OSA-EXPRESS3 1000T (z10 ) migration issue

On Friday, 10/02/2009 at 12:16 EDT, Bhemidhi, Ashwin ashw...@ti.com
wrote:

 This was a layer 2 vswitch before and after the move. Also if I need to
delete
 and re-define do I just do it in Linux or we also need to delete and
re-define
 in z/VM guest ID( I do not see if this matters).  I tried deleting and
 re-defining the network interface in the guest but with no success. I
still get
 the same error:

 qdio: loading QDIO base support version 2
 qeth: loading qeth S/390 OSA-Express driver
 qeth: received an IDX TERMINATE with cause code 0xf6
 qeth: The qeth device 0.0.0800 is not configured for the OSI layer
required by
 z/VM
 qeth: sense data available on channel 0.0.0800.
 qeth:  cstat 0x0
 dstat 0xE
 qeth: irb: 00 c2 60 17  04 98 90 38  0e 00 10 00  00 80 00 00
 qeth: irb: 01 02 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00
 qeth: sense data: 02 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00
 qeth: sense data: 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00
 qeth: Initialization in hardsetup failed! rc=-5
 qeth: received an IDX TERMINATE with cause code 0xf6

0xF6 is specifically issued when the VSWITCH type doesn't match the way
the guest has previously configured the adapter.  You could get this error
if the guest tried to configure layer 3 on an layer 2 VSWITCH or the guest
configured the vNIC prior to the COUPLE to the VSWITCH.

All that would be required is to log the user off/on or detach the NIC and
re-define it.

If the ONLY thing you changed was z9-z10 and you have the support for
OSA-Express3 (if that's what you're using) applied, then call it in.  Just
double-check that Linux is configured to do layer 2.

I have seen systems do odd things after a h/w change because something was
dependent on the system identifier or CPU serial number.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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Re: Linux vswitch layer2 OSA-Express2 (z9 ) to OSA-EXPRESS3 1000T (z10 ) migration issue

2009-10-06 Thread Marcy Cortes
We are running OSA code level 7.33 according to osa/sf
  
* CHPID DD information follows *  
  
CHPID -- DD  
PCHID -- 0381
Hardware model - OSA-Direct Express3 
Subtype  Gigabit Ethernet
Reset indicator  Not required
Modes configured --- None
Processor code level --- 07.33   

We have both SLES 9 (2.6.5-7.317) and SLES 10 (2.6.16.60-0.39.3) across layer 2 
vswitch.
It'z z/VM 5.4 RSU 0902.   

We didn't pick up a newer level with the reload (I had ran osa/sf before it and 
the number was the same as it is now).

Are you running RedHat?   It sounds like you may have an issue to report to 
them.

Marcy 

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-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Bhemidhi, 
Ashwin
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 9:14 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Linux vswitch layer2 OSA-Express2 (z9 ) to 
OSA-EXPRESS3 1000T (z10 ) migration issue

Marcy, 

I would like to know if you picked up an updated microcode on the OSA3 and then 
reloaded it or just force reloaded on it. We are running OSA CODE LEVEL = 0732 
and would like to double check with your OSA code level.

We were pointed to kernel 2.6.25 when we opened an ETR with IBM on this issue. 
Did you also upgrade to a new kernel for the OSA3. We are running kernel 
2.6.18-164.el5.

We checked all of VSWITCH, NIC def and Linux interface definitions and 
everything appears to be correct. We made sure we defined the network as layer 
2 confirmed from sysfs. 


Thank you,
Ashwin 

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Cortes
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 12:17 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Linux vswitch layer2 OSA-Express2 (z9 ) to OSA-EXPRESS3 1000T (z10 
) migration issue

In addition to what Alan said about your config and maintenance, you might want 
to take the OSA chpid completely offline and back on to force it to reload its 
microcode.   We had some OSA issues last week with a z9-z10 upgrade and the 
reload fixed them.


Marcy 

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Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 10:12 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Linux vswitch layer2 OSA-Express2 (z9 ) to 
OSA-EXPRESS3 1000T (z10 ) migration issue

On Friday, 10/02/2009 at 12:16 EDT, Bhemidhi, Ashwin ashw...@ti.com
wrote:

 This was a layer 2 vswitch before and after the move. Also if I need to
delete
 and re-define do I just do it in Linux or we also need to delete and
re-define
 in z/VM guest ID( I do not see if this matters).  I tried deleting and
 re-defining the network interface in the guest but with no success. I
still get
 the same error:

 qdio: loading QDIO base support version 2
 qeth: loading qeth S/390 OSA-Express driver
 qeth: received an IDX TERMINATE with cause code 0xf6
 qeth: The qeth device 0.0.0800 is not configured for the OSI layer
required by
 z/VM
 qeth: sense data available on channel 0.0.0800.
 qeth:  cstat 0x0
 dstat 0xE
 qeth: irb: 00 c2 60 17  04 98 90 38  0e 00 10 00  00 80 00 00
 qeth: irb: 01 02 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00
 qeth: sense data: 02 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00
 qeth: sense data: 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00
 qeth: Initialization in hardsetup failed! rc=-5
 qeth: received an IDX TERMINATE with cause code 0xf6

0xF6 is specifically issued when the VSWITCH type doesn't match the way
the guest has previously configured the adapter.  You could get this error
if the guest tried to configure layer 3 on an layer 2 VSWITCH or the guest
configured the vNIC prior to the COUPLE to the VSWITCH.

All that would be required is to log the user off/on or detach the NIC and
re-define it.

If the ONLY thing you changed was z9-z10 and you have the support 

Re: Remove a user from a secondary group

2009-10-06 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On 
 Behalf Of CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR)
 Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 11:06 AM
 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
 Subject: Remove a user from a secondary group
 
 I know how to add a user to a second group, for example to give su
 authority (using wheel)to a user, we issue the following command:
 usermod -G wheel testur4
 
 But how can I remove him in a single command without directly editing
 the /etc/group  /etc/gshadow files (vigr). Is there a single command?
 
 James Chaplin

Assuming that I haven't gone totally insane.

usermod -a -G newgroup existinguser #add newgroup

usermod -G oldgroup existinguser #remove oldgroup

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Novell iPrint Server using SLES on System z?

2009-10-06 Thread Eugene Carter
Greeting Listers...

I have been getting plenty of questions within our organization lately
regarding the support capabilities of the zLinux environment for a variety
of service and infrastructure applications we employone of the latest
is Novell's iPrint (which we are a heavy user of)

I know that iPrint is supported on SLES on the x86 platform, but the
question has come up (multiple times) Is iPrint supported under SLES on
System z?  Can we virtualize it like other infrastructure services on z?
It's supported on SLES on x86.why not SLES on System z?SLES and
iPrint are both Novell products.   you get the idea.

This is a common and obviously oversimplified perspective, but it's there
nonetheless.  ;-)

Anyway, the short answer from Novell is:  Nothe longer answer is:  It
is not currently on the map, some reasons technical (undetermined), some
reasons business case.

But since our organization is looking at everything we can to determine
viability for consolidation/virtualization, I wanted to query the list on a
few things:

1.  Are other organizations out there using iPrint on SLES (on x86) who are
also using SLES on System z?
2.  If Novell iPrint were an option for SLES on System z (and you were
using iPrint) would you host it on System z?  If not, can you share your
rationale/perspective?
3.  Does there appear to be a business case/demand out there for Novell to
support iPrint under SLES on System z (that Novell is unaware of)?
4.  Is it even worthwhile to explore (like I don't have enough to do
already)?


Thanks in advance for your thoughts and perspectives,
Gene


Gene Carter
Capital Group Companies
3500 Wiseman Blvd
San Antonio, TX  78251
210-474-3194
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Re: Linux vswitch layer2 OSA-Express2 (z9 ) to OSA-EXPRESS3 1000T (z10 ) migration issue

2009-10-06 Thread Bhemidhi, Ashwin
Marcy,

Thank you for the information. We are running Redhat and have an opened an 
issue with them. Redhat support escalated the case with their engineers. So I 
am waiting on them. 

Ashwin 

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) migration issue

We are running OSA code level 7.33 according to osa/sf
  
* CHPID DD information follows *  
  
CHPID -- DD  
PCHID -- 0381
Hardware model - OSA-Direct Express3 
Subtype  Gigabit Ethernet
Reset indicator  Not required
Modes configured --- None
Processor code level --- 07.33   

We have both SLES 9 (2.6.5-7.317) and SLES 10 (2.6.16.60-0.39.3) across layer 2 
vswitch.
It'z z/VM 5.4 RSU 0902.   

We didn't pick up a newer level with the reload (I had ran osa/sf before it and 
the number was the same as it is now).

Are you running RedHat?   It sounds like you may have an issue to report to 
them.

Marcy 

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Ashwin
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 9:14 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Linux vswitch layer2 OSA-Express2 (z9 ) to 
OSA-EXPRESS3 1000T (z10 ) migration issue

Marcy, 

I would like to know if you picked up an updated microcode on the OSA3 and then 
reloaded it or just force reloaded on it. We are running OSA CODE LEVEL = 0732 
and would like to double check with your OSA code level.

We were pointed to kernel 2.6.25 when we opened an ETR with IBM on this issue. 
Did you also upgrade to a new kernel for the OSA3. We are running kernel 
2.6.18-164.el5.

We checked all of VSWITCH, NIC def and Linux interface definitions and 
everything appears to be correct. We made sure we defined the network as layer 
2 confirmed from sysfs. 


Thank you,
Ashwin 

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Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 12:17 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Linux vswitch layer2 OSA-Express2 (z9 ) to OSA-EXPRESS3 1000T (z10 
) migration issue

In addition to what Alan said about your config and maintenance, you might want 
to take the OSA chpid completely offline and back on to force it to reload its 
microcode.   We had some OSA issues last week with a z9-z10 upgrade and the 
reload fixed them.


Marcy 

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Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 10:12 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Linux vswitch layer2 OSA-Express2 (z9 ) to 
OSA-EXPRESS3 1000T (z10 ) migration issue

On Friday, 10/02/2009 at 12:16 EDT, Bhemidhi, Ashwin ashw...@ti.com
wrote:

 This was a layer 2 vswitch before and after the move. Also if I need to
delete
 and re-define do I just do it in Linux or we also need to delete and
re-define
 in z/VM guest ID( I do not see if this matters).  I tried deleting and
 re-defining the network interface in the guest but with no success. I
still get
 the same error:

 qdio: loading QDIO base support version 2
 qeth: loading qeth S/390 OSA-Express driver
 qeth: received an IDX TERMINATE with cause code 0xf6
 qeth: The qeth device 0.0.0800 is not configured for the OSI layer
required by
 z/VM
 qeth: sense data available on channel 0.0.0800.
 qeth:  cstat 0x0
 dstat 0xE
 qeth: irb: 00 c2 60 17  04 98 90 38  0e 00 10 00  00 80 00 00
 qeth: irb: 01 02 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00
 qeth: sense data: 02 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00
 qeth: sense data: 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00
 qeth: Initialization in hardsetup failed! rc=-5
 qeth: received 

Re: Novell iPrint Server using SLES on System z?

2009-10-06 Thread Adam Thornton

On Oct 6, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Eugene Carter wrote:



1.  Are other organizations out there using iPrint on SLES (on x86)
who are
also using SLES on System z?
2.  If Novell iPrint were an option for SLES on System z (and you were
using iPrint) would you host it on System z?  If not, can you share
your
rationale/perspective?
3.  Does there appear to be a business case/demand out there for
Novell to
support iPrint under SLES on System z (that Novell is unaware of)?
4.  Is it even worthwhile to explore (like I don't have enough to do
already)?


NDPS is *so* 1998.  Unless you still have actual Netware somewhere
it's just using LPR/LPD and IPP anyway, I think.

The rest of the world is using CUPS these days, as far as I can tell,
which works fine on z.

So, my responses in order would be:
1) dunno
2) no--I'd use CUPS, which is open and well-supported
3) *I* don't see it
4) no

Adam

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Linux article

2009-10-06 Thread LJ Mace
Did anyone form here see this?
Thoughts??

Mace

 
http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid39_gci1369845,00.html?track=NL-795ad=728889asrc=EM_NLN_9453824uid=5701628

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Re: Remove a user from a secondary group

2009-10-06 Thread Mark Post
 On 10/6/2009 at 12:06 PM, CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR)
james.chap...@associates.dhs.gov wrote: 
 I know how to add a user to a second group, for example to give su
 authority (using wheel)to a user, we issue the following command:
 usermod -G wheel testur4
 
 But how can I remove him in a single command without directly editing
 the /etc/group  /etc/gshadow files (vigr). Is there a single command?

When you use usermod -G group1,group2,group3 username, any groups that 
username is a member of, but are not listed on the command, are removed.  I.e., 
each usermod -G command must specify _all_ the groups you want them to be in.


Mark Post

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Re: Novell iPrint Server using SLES on System z?

2009-10-06 Thread Mark Post
 On 10/6/2009 at 12:50 PM, Eugene Carter gene_car...@capgroup.com wrote: 
-snip-
 1.  Are other organizations out there using iPrint on SLES (on x86) who are
 also using SLES on System z?

Yes.

 2.  If Novell iPrint were an option for SLES on System z (and you were
 using iPrint) would you host it on System z?  If not, can you share your
 rationale/perspective?

I'm not a customer, so I won't comment here.

 3.  Does there appear to be a business case/demand out there for Novell to
 support iPrint under SLES on System z (that Novell is unaware of)?

I believe so.  I won't say we have a _lot_ of customers running things like 
iPrint and eDirectory that also have mainframes, but we do have some, and most 
of them would like to run them on SLES on System z.

 4.  Is it even worthwhile to explore (like I don't have enough to do
 already)?

If you don't, the Novell product managers for those products will never get the 
message.  (We've been telling them ourselves they should do this,  but as with 
any other vendor, if it doesn't come from a customer, it doesn't seem to matter 
much.)


Mark Post

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Re: Novell iPrint Server using SLES on System z?

2009-10-06 Thread Mark Post
 On 10/6/2009 at  1:00 PM, Adam Thornton athorn...@sinenomine.net wrote: 
-snip-
 2) no--I'd use CUPS, which is open and well-supported

Unless you were already an iPrint customer, in which case this answer would be 
different.  Like you, I've never done much, if anything, with iPrint.  The 
customers who have really like it.


Mark Post

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Re: Remove a user from a secondary group

2009-10-06 Thread CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR)
Thanks Mark, . . . that's the answer, and I did not know this.

James Chaplin
Systems Programmer, MVS, zVM  zLinux
Base Technologies, Inc
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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
Mark Post
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 2:33 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Remove a user from a secondary group

 On 10/6/2009 at 12:06 PM, CHAPLIN, JAMES (CTR)
james.chap...@associates.dhs.gov wrote: 
 I know how to add a user to a second group, for example to give su
 authority (using wheel)to a user, we issue the following command:
 usermod -G wheel testur4
 
 But how can I remove him in a single command without directly editing
 the /etc/group  /etc/gshadow files (vigr). Is there a single command?

When you use usermod -G group1,group2,group3 username, any groups that
username is a member of, but are not listed on the command, are removed.
I.e., each usermod -G command must specify _all_ the groups you want
them to be in.


Mark Post

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Adam is moving on...

2009-10-06 Thread Adam Thornton

Some of you know this already, and some of you don't:

Last month, I was offered a great opportunity at another organization
that will allow me to focus my career in a way I have been interested
in for quite a while. I accepted that position, knowing that my
customers at SNA would be in good hands after I left. As a result,
this Friday is my last day with SNA.  Sine Nomine and its owners have
been quite supportive of my move, for which I am very grateful.

I intend to continue reading the Linux on 390 and VM mailing lists,
but I am no longer going to be working with zSeries boxes as part of
my job (I will continue to play with Hercules in my Copious Free
Time), so my advice may grow even less useful than it currently is.
Anyone who wants a non-work email address of mine and doesn't already
have one, please contact me off-list.

Adam

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Oracle Client on SLES 10

2009-10-06 Thread Marcy Cortes
Has anyone installed this yet?   It worked fine on SLES 9.  
I keep running into OUI-15038 rule CertifiedVersion OSChecks failed and if I 
ignore them, the link fails with:


INFO: /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/bin/genclntsh

INFO: 
/usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: 
skipping incompatible 
/opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/lib/stubs/libdl.so when 
searching for -ldl
/usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: 
skipping incompatible 
/opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/lib/stubs/libm.so when 
searching for -lm
/usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: 
skipping incompatible /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product
INFO: /10.2.0/db_1/lib/stubs/libnsl.so when searching for -lnsl
/usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: 
skipping incompatible 
/opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/lib/stubs/librt.so when 
searching for -lrt
/usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: 
/opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/lib/libclient10.a(obindps.o): 
relocation R_390_PC32 against `ocibndps' can not be used when making a shared 
object; recompile with -fPIC
/u
INFO: sr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: 
final link failed: Bad value
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

INFO: genclntsh: Failed to link libclntsh.so.10.1
make: *** [client_sharedlib] Error 1

INFO: End output from spawned process.
INFO: --
INFO: Exception thrown from action: make
Exception Name: MakefileException
Exception String: Error in invoking target 'client_sharedlib' of makefile 
'/opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/network/lib/ins_net_client.mk'.
 See 
'/opt/oracle/app/oracle/oraInventory/logs/installActions2009-10-06_12-29-26PM.log'
 for details.
Exception Severity: 1



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Re: Oracle Client on SLES 10

2009-10-06 Thread Marcy Cortes
I think I answered my own question through google.
I need patch 6007358.  Now off to get that... 


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Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:35 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [LINUX-390] Oracle Client on SLES 10

Has anyone installed this yet?   It worked fine on SLES 9.  
I keep running into OUI-15038 rule CertifiedVersion OSChecks failed and if I 
ignore them, the link fails with:


INFO: /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/bin/genclntsh

INFO: 
/usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: 
skipping incompatible 
/opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/lib/stubs/libdl.so when 
searching for -ldl
/usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: 
skipping incompatible 
/opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/lib/stubs/libm.so when 
searching for -lm
/usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: 
skipping incompatible /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product
INFO: /10.2.0/db_1/lib/stubs/libnsl.so when searching for -lnsl
/usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: 
skipping incompatible 
/opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/lib/stubs/librt.so when 
searching for -lrt
/usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: 
/opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/lib/libclient10.a(obindps.o): 
relocation R_390_PC32 against `ocibndps' can not be used when making a shared 
object; recompile with -fPIC
/u
INFO: sr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld: 
final link failed: Bad value
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

INFO: genclntsh: Failed to link libclntsh.so.10.1
make: *** [client_sharedlib] Error 1

INFO: End output from spawned process.
INFO: --
INFO: Exception thrown from action: make
Exception Name: MakefileException
Exception String: Error in invoking target 'client_sharedlib' of makefile 
'/opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/network/lib/ins_net_client.mk'.
 See 
'/opt/oracle/app/oracle/oraInventory/logs/installActions2009-10-06_12-29-26PM.log'
 for details.
Exception Severity: 1



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Re: Linux article

2009-10-06 Thread David Boyes
 Did anyone form here see this?
 Thoughts??

Couple observations:

1) They're counting only RHEL and SLES. Doesn't count Ubuntu, which seems to 
power most of the netbooks where there seems to be significant expansion both 
on the desktop and in the data center (same OS on desktop and server gets 
points). 

2) As noted: in a tight economy, don't fix it if it ain't broke. If people have 
working stuff, they aren't messing with it. We've finally made the point IMHO 
that people are the expensive part of IT, and that's what companies are 
economizing on: people. It takes a lot less people to run what you have rather 
than try to do something new. 

3) I think the virtualization angle is somewhat specious. People just aren't 
buying hardware if they can avoid it, thus fewer licenses. 

4) The support market for Linux is finally maturing to the point that the major 
vendors aren't the only game in town, and there is a lot of customized 
distribution creation going on, which isn't counted in this. Cf Scientific 
Linux, embedded Linux devices, etc. 

Seemed FUDish. 

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Re: Linux article

2009-10-06 Thread Rodger Donaldson
On Wed, October 7, 2009 10:08, David Boyes wrote:
 Did anyone form here see this?
 Thoughts??

 Couple observations:

 1) They're counting only RHEL and SLES. Doesn't count Ubuntu, which seems
 to power most of the netbooks where there seems to be significant
 expansion both on the desktop and in the data center (same OS on desktop
 and server gets points).

It also doesn't gel with RH's published figures for the year.  If people
aren't using more Linux, why are RedHat (and, I hope, SuSE) making more
money and selling more stuff?

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NPIV known problems?

2009-10-06 Thread Sue Sivets

Does anyone know if there are any known problems with NPIV and Suse 10
SP2? We're trying to add NPIV to one of our Suse 10 test systems, and
having a spectacularly unsuccessful time.

When we turned the NPIV bit on, we lost access to all the fcp dasd that
had been working without any problems, so we turned NPIV off on the
original channel, and added another channel;  all the defined fcp
devices started working again, and then we turned NPIV on for the new
channel. VM can see the new channel and the addresses that have been
dedicated to the Suse test system. Suse can see the channel, and reports
the following during boot:

scsi3 : zfcp
zfcp: The adapter 0.0.f101 reported the following characteristics:
WWNN 0x5005076400c36e0d, WWPN 0xc05076fd6b000784, S_ID 0x00701401,
adapter version 0x4, LIC version 0x70e, FC link speed 4 Gb/s
zfcp: Switched fabric fibrechannel network detected at adapter 0.0.f101.

However, when we go into yast2, the fcp function cannot (or will not)
define a new device on the new NPIV channel address. It sees the channel
address when it does the scan during startup (the address shows up in
the add a device pulldown box), but most of the time it doesn't seem to
like the WWPN, and we've tried every WWPN we've been able to find that
looked like it might work. We can see the channel and the address on the
HMC, and the switch. So far, it looks like we can see the NPIV channel
where ever we look, but that's about it.

Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful.

Thank you.

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Re: Oracle Client on SLES 10

2009-10-06 Thread Rogerio Soares
Marcy, i have this patch, i will sent to you tomorrow morning. i'm at my
home now.



On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Marcy Cortes
marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.comwrote:

 I think I answered my own question through google.
 I need patch 6007358.  Now off to get that...


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 Has anyone installed this yet?   It worked fine on SLES 9.
 I keep running into OUI-15038 rule CertifiedVersion OSChecks failed and if
 I ignore them, the link fails with:


 INFO: /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/bin/genclntsh

 INFO:
 /usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld:
 skipping incompatible
 /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/lib/stubs/libdl.so when
 searching for -ldl
 /usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld:
 skipping incompatible
 /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/lib/stubs/libm.so when
 searching for -lm
 /usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld:
 skipping incompatible /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product
 INFO: /10.2.0/db_1/lib/stubs/libnsl.so when searching for -lnsl
 /usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld:
 skipping incompatible
 /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/lib/stubs/librt.so when
 searching for -lrt
 /usr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld:
 /opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/lib/libclient10.a(obindps.o):
 relocation R_390_PC32 against `ocibndps' can not be used when making a
 shared object; recompile with -fPIC
 /u
 INFO:
 sr/lib64/gcc/s390x-suse-linux/4.1.2/../../../../s390x-suse-linux/bin/ld:
 final link failed: Bad value
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

 INFO: genclntsh: Failed to link libclntsh.so.10.1
 make: *** [client_sharedlib] Error 1

 INFO: End output from spawned process.
 INFO: --
 INFO: Exception thrown from action: make
 Exception Name: MakefileException
 Exception String: Error in invoking target 'client_sharedlib' of makefile
 '/opt/oracle/app/oracle/oracle/product/10.2.0/db_1/network/lib/
 ins_net_client.mk'. See
 '/opt/oracle/app/oracle/oraInventory/logs/installActions2009-10-06_12-29-26PM.log'
 for details.
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Re: Adam is moving on...

2009-10-06 Thread John Summerfield

Adam Thornton wrote:

Some of you know this already, and some of you don't:

Last month, I was offered a great opportunity at another organization
that will allow me to focus my career in a way I have been interested
in for quite a while. I accepted that position, knowing that my
customers at SNA would be in good hands after I left. As a result,
this Friday is my last day with SNA.  Sine Nomine and its owners have
been quite supportive of my move, for which I am very grateful.


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Re: emulating a z/OS DDNAME dataset concatenation in Linux

2009-10-06 Thread John Summerfield

John McKown wrote:

I'm a z/OS (and back to OS/VS1) type person. I don't know of any way to


I remember PCP, MFT and MVT[-)


do this as I think you want to. What I assume is that you basically want
to do one open() type function, and have the run time give you the
records from the file(s) in the concatenation without any more work on
your part anod only get an eof() indication at the end of the last file.
Now, I can envision writing a subroutine to do this, but I don't know of
one built in to, say, glibc. Now Perl does this if you do something
like:



I haven;t seen anyone offer a suggestion that will work for a program
that expects one input file that is not stdin. I think this does what
you want.


fred (cat lots of files)

It's called process substitution. and you can read all about it in the
bash manpage. The above example is a special case, one could also filter
input (using grep maybe) or generate a report from a database
(postgresql and psql perhaps), and the analogue for writing also works.






#!/bin/perl
while () {
  print $_;
}

and invoke it:

perl -f program.pl file1.txt file2.data

it will read file1.txt and file2.data in that while() loop. But
something like C or Java generally won't.


On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 22:08, BISHOP, Peter wrote:

Hi,
I've searched around and drawn a blank.  What I'm wondering is whether there is 
a method in Linux that emulates a z/OS DDNAME's facility of allowing multiple 
datasets to be concatenated and effectively treated as one file.

I looked at symbolic links, the cat command, variants of the mount command, 
but didn't see anything clearly supporting this.  The ability supported by the DDNAME concept of 
not needing to copy the files to concatenate them is important as we want to avoid as much overhead 
as possible.

What we'd like to do is run a job on zLinux that accesses multiple z/OS datasets in one 
file, as is done with the DDNAME concept with z/OS JCL.

Can NFS in some way support this?  I think NFS will only use the mount 
command anyway, but has it another route than that?

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.
Best regards
Peter


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Re: Novell iPrint Server using SLES on System z?

2009-10-06 Thread John Summerfield

Eugene Carter wrote:

Greeting Listers...

I have been getting plenty of questions within our organization lately
regarding the support capabilities of the zLinux environment for a variety
of service and infrastructure applications we employone of the latest
is Novell's iPrint (which we are a heavy user of)



In each case you should ask the question of the supplier[1], Novell in
this instance, and since Novell is involved I would also ask SUSE.

Only the software supplier can give a definitive answer (unless you find
happy users), and by _formally_ asking the supplier you go to establish
the need, a no now may become a yes in the future.

[1] I don't think it would hurt to ask, in the case the answer's no,
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Re: Using IPTABLES in SLES10 (NAT)

2009-10-06 Thread John Summerfield

Samir Reddahi wrote:

Hi Florian,

You can use the boot.local (/etc/init.d/boot.local) to add the commands.
The boot.local is executed right before the runlevel change.



That sounds like The Wrong Way.

If you use the SUSE firewall tools, it's best to use them properly, not
work around things you don't understand. How would your successor be
able to do it.

I use RHEL-clone and Debian with shorewall, and not SLES much at all so
  I can't really comment on specifics, but I have the impression that
some other parts of SLES expect the firewall scripts to work in a
certain way, so substituting others may not be practical. OTHO SUSE
configuration tools are, in my estimation, generally better than RH's,
and Debian doesn't assume one uses a firewall at all (but provides
several tools for managing them).

In your position, I'd start by reading the documentation. All of it.



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Re: HELP's in

2009-10-06 Thread John Summerfield

Gary Cox wrote:

HELP


One upon a time Mr  Mrs Sin had a baby.


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Re: HELP's in

2009-10-06 Thread John Summerfield

John Summerfield wrote:

Gary Cox wrote:

HELP


One upon a time Mr  Mrs Sin had a baby.


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Re: HELP's in

2009-10-06 Thread John Summerfield

John Summerfield wrote:

John Summerfield wrote:

Gary Cox wrote:

HELP


One upon a time Mr  Mrs Sin had a baby.


He was just a small Sin.


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Re: HELP's in

2009-10-06 Thread John Summerfield

John Summerfield wrote:

John Summerfield wrote:

John Summerfield wrote:

Gary Cox wrote:

HELP


One upon a time Mr  Mrs Sin had a baby.


He was just a small Sin.


Over time, as babies do, he grew. He became a bigger Sin.


He joined the priesthood, and became Father Sin.



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Re: HELP's in

2009-10-06 Thread John Summerfield

John Summerfield wrote:

John Summerfield wrote:

John Summerfield wrote:

John Summerfield wrote:

Gary Cox wrote:

HELP


One upon a time Mr  Mrs Sin had a baby.


He was just a small Sin.


Over time, as babies do, he grew. He became a bigger Sin.


He joined the priesthood, and became Father Sin.



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Re: NPIV known problems?

2009-10-06 Thread Raymond Higgs
Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 10/06/2009 06:33:00
PM:

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 Subject

 NPIV known problems?

 Does anyone know if there are any known problems with NPIV and Suse 10
 SP2? We're trying to add NPIV to one of our Suse 10 test systems, and
 having a spectacularly unsuccessful time.

 When we turned the NPIV bit on, we lost access to all the fcp dasd that
 had been working without any problems, so we turned NPIV off on the
 original channel, and added another channel;  all the defined fcp
 devices started working again, and then we turned NPIV on for the new
 channel. VM can see the new channel and the addresses that have been
 dedicated to the Suse test system. Suse can see the channel, and reports
 the following during boot:

 scsi3 : zfcp
 zfcp: The adapter 0.0.f101 reported the following characteristics:
 WWNN 0x5005076400c36e0d, WWPN 0xc05076fd6b000784, S_ID 0x00701401,
 adapter version 0x4, LIC version 0x70e, FC link speed 4 Gb/s
 zfcp: Switched fabric fibrechannel network detected at adapter 0.0.f101.

 However, when we go into yast2, the fcp function cannot (or will not)
 define a new device on the new NPIV channel address. It sees the channel
 address when it does the scan during startup (the address shows up in
 the add a device pulldown box), but most of the time it doesn't seem to
 like the WWPN, and we've tried every WWPN we've been able to find that
 looked like it might work. We can see the channel and the address on the
 HMC, and the switch. So far, it looks like we can see the NPIV channel
 where ever we look, but that's about it.

 Any ideas or suggestions would be helpful.

 Thank you.

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I would try to use san_disc to see what is in your fabric.  There is a
good example in the san_disc manpage.  Follow the example through -c
PORT_LIST.  If you do not see the WWPN of your storage array, then it is
probably a zoning issue.

I hope this helps.

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Re: HELP's in

2009-10-06 Thread John Summerfield

John Summerfield wrote:

John Summerfield wrote:

John Summerfield wrote:

John Summerfield wrote:

John Summerfield wrote:

Gary Cox wrote:

HELP


One upon a time Mr  Mrs Sin had a baby.


He was just a small Sin.


Over time, as babies do, he grew. He became a bigger Sin.


He joined the priesthood, and became Father Sin.



Years passed, and he found favour in the Church.


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Re: HELP's in

2009-10-06 Thread Scott Rohling
Dude - please stop flooding my email -- just put in one post - if it ain't
funny in one post ...  it ain't funny.

Scott

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:39 PM, John Summerfield 
deb...@herakles.homelinux.org wrote:

 John Summerfield wrote:

 John Summerfield wrote:

 John Summerfield wrote:

 John Summerfield wrote:

 Gary Cox wrote:

 HELP


 One upon a time Mr  Mrs Sin had a baby.


 He was just a small Sin.


 Over time, as babies do, he grew. He became a bigger Sin.


 He joined the priesthood, and became Father Sin.


 Years passed, and he found favour in the Church.



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Re: HELP's in

2009-10-06 Thread John Summerfield

John Summerfield wrote:

John Summerfield wrote:

John Summerfield wrote:

John Summerfield wrote:

John Summerfield wrote:

John Summerfield wrote:

Gary Cox wrote:

HELP


One upon a time Mr  Mrs Sin had a baby.


He was just a small Sin.


Over time, as babies do, he grew. He became a bigger Sin.


He joined the priesthood, and became Father Sin.



Years passed, and he found favour in the Church.


Eventually,


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Re: Linux article

2009-10-06 Thread Henry E Schaffer
David writes:
 ...
 1) They're counting only RHEL and SLES. Doesn't count Ubuntu, which
 seems to power most of the netbooks  ...

  FWIW, I recently bought an ASUS eee PC900 and it runs Debian.  I think
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Re: Linux article

2009-10-06 Thread Kris Van Hees
On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 09:50:14PM -0400, Henry E Schaffer wrote:
 David writes:
  ...
  1) They're counting only RHEL and SLES. Doesn't count Ubuntu, which
  seems to power most of the netbooks  ...

   FWIW, I recently bought an ASUS eee PC900 and it runs Debian.  I think
 they've sold a lot of netbooks.

Actually, the ASUS EeePC versions with Linux on them come with Xandros, which
is a derivative of Debian.  The distrinction is rather important because they
run on two completely different release schedules.

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Re: HELP's in

2009-10-06 Thread John Campbell
John Summerfield wrote:
 John Summerfield wrote:
 John Summerfield wrote:
 John Summerfield wrote:
 John Summerfield wrote:
 John Summerfield wrote:
 John Summerfield wrote:

 Gary Cox wrote:

 HELP

 One upon a time Mr  Mrs Sin had a baby.

 He was just a small Sin.

 Over time, as babies do, he grew. He became a bigger Sin.

 He joined the priesthood, and became Father Sin.


 Years passed, and he found favour in the Church.

 Eventually,

 he became Cardinal Sin.

Not to be confused with Ordinal. :-)

(sighs)

I apologize-- though not very much-- for the Pascal reference.

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Re: Linux article

2009-10-06 Thread Mark Post
 On 10/6/2009 at  5:37 PM, Rodger Donaldson rodg...@diaspora.gen.nz wrote: 
-snip-
 why are RedHat (and, I hope, SuSE) making more
 money and selling more stuff?

In our particular case, up 38% year over year.  So yeah, FUD.


Mark Post

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Re: Oracle Client on SLES 10

2009-10-06 Thread Marcy Cortes
No need, but thanks anyway.  An Oracle DBA here retrieved it for me.
All is well (although this is ugly - I won't be able to command line install 
this thing on the other 21 servers).


Marcy 

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