Re: nfs mounting query

2003-11-27 Thread Erez Kirson
Hi

Here is a link to the SRPMS ( yes its on the internet :) )

ftp://ftp.iglu.org.il/pub/mirrors/redhat/updates.redhat.com/enterprise/2.1AS/en/os/SRPMS/

here there are two util-linux the 20 version is the one i have - take a look
and tell me what you think
By the way i can do the test with a defrent kernel if you want .

Thanks

Erez Kirson

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[OT] Search results - strange results

2003-11-27 Thread Shachar Shemesh
hi list,

I am occasionally going over the people who browse my site, and try to 
understand what brought them there. The most popular thing is people in 
Israel seeking writing a resume. One such browser came from the 
following link:
http://find.walla.co.il/ts.cgi?w=/0q=%EB%FA%E9%E1%FA%20%F7%E5%F8%E5%FA%20%E7%E9%E9%ED

Now here's the strange thing. Result #2 in the actual search is my 
Hebrew HTML resume. Result #7 is my resume in Doc format. In between, 
there are search results from other sites. My response is:
WTF???

Walla seems to be ranking my site in two different places. It's the same 
site.

Any explanations would be appretiated.

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Re: [OT] Search results - strange results

2003-11-27 Thread Gil Freund
Shachar Shemesh wrote:
hi list,

I am occasionally going over the people who browse my site, and try to 
understand what brought them there. The most popular thing is people in 
Israel seeking writing a resume. One such browser came from the 
following link:
http://find.walla.co.il/ts.cgi?w=/0q=%EB%FA%E9%E1%FA%20%F7%E5%F8%E5%FA%20%E7%E9%E9%ED 

Now here's the strange thing. Result #2 in the actual search is my 
Hebrew HTML resume. Result #7 is my resume in Doc format. In between, 
there are search results from other sites. My response is:
WTF???

Walla seems to be ranking my site in two different places. It's the same 
site.

Any explanations would be appretiated.

From looking at the reults, It's not ranking your site, it's ranking 
individual pages. Moreover, it only gives out content from the DOC file 
(shame on you ;)) and not from the HTML.

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Re: [OT] Search results - strange results

2003-11-27 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Gil Freund wrote:

From looking at the reults, It's not ranking your site, it's ranking 
individual pages. Moreover, it only gives out content from the DOC 
file (shame on you ;)) and not from the HTML.

Obviously, it's much easier to look into Doc than into HTML.

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Re: USB ADSL modem - experiences?

2003-11-27 Thread Shoshannah Forbes
On Nov 20, 2003, at 8:53 PM, Guy Teverovsky wrote:

1) ports 6667-6668 (IRC) are blocked - you can't use IRC
You can, if the server supports using port  and you set your IRC 
client to use that port (it work fine for me with ECI as a router and 
xchat)

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layout Vs direction: multilingual users

2003-11-27 Thread Guy Baruch


Gil Freund wrote:

Another note, that could be unrelated. I asked before on the list why 
context switching (LTR - RTL) in OO and CXoffice does not change the 
language as well. Is this related to the keyboard layout, or am I 
barking up the wrong tree?
I don't know about KB leayouts, but it sounds like such a heuristic may be
problematic with multilingual users.
e.g., if a user needs hebrew, arabic, english and french, he'll be quite 
miffed
by the software choosing his language for him ...

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Re: [OT] Search results - strange results

2003-11-27 Thread Diego Iastrubni
 , 27  2003, 12:04,Shachar Shemesh:
 Gil Freund wrote:
  From looking at the reults, It's not ranking your site, it's ranking
  individual pages. Moreover, it only gives out content from the DOC
  file (shame on you ;)) and not from the HTML.

 Obviously, it's much easier to look into Doc than into HTML.

while looking for shachar in google i see your page in the 7th position.

other searches:
meni, hits the spot.
tzafrir, hits the spot.
volovic, 2nd hit, (mark, in first hit, i liked the flowers shots!)
muli, you are third.
shlomi fish, hits the spot.
eli marmor, i suppose 2nd hit? 
gabor szabo, 2,3 hit. 

(partial list of the people on this list, don't offend if i forgot you)

anyone else would like to know if google recognize him personally? :-)

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Re: USB ADSL modem - experiences?

2003-11-27 Thread Micha Feigin
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 09:42:50PM +0200, Guy Teverovsky wrote:
 On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 05:06, Micha Feigin wrote:
 
  Downloaded the file and tried accessing the modem as described, but
  apparently my modem does think that its dumb since when I try to browse
  to 192.168.1.1 I don't get any reply.
  I belive it does think that that is its address, since it does answear
  the arp request for that address (at list I belive the modem is the one
  answearing that since I made sure it wasn't connected at the time and
  its the only thing on that interface on non of my machines has that
  address).
 
 Does the computer, you are trying to access the ECI from, has a network
 interface in 192.168.1.0/24 subnet ?
 

OK solved the problem. I was trying to access the modem from a computer
behind my gateway machine and the firewall on the gateway was configured to
NAT br0-ppp0 and when trying to access the modem I actually needed to
NAT br0-eth0 instead.
Still haven't found out how to enable local servers, but haven't tried
to hard either since I prefer my local gateway so that I can use dynamic
dns services (will probably have to poll the modem every once in a while
otherwise, and why break a working setup).
Its features are nice though for home networks, macs (especially os 9
and less which don't have pppoe) and for better firewalling of windows
etc.
Good to know the abbility to let the modem dial to the provider itself,
firewall the network, be a dns and dhcp server exists.

 Guy
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Re: [OT] Search results - strange results

2003-11-27 Thread Aviram Jenik
On Thursday 27 November 2003 17:36, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
 while looking for shachar in google i see your page in the 7th position.

 other searches:
 eli marmor, i suppose 2nd hit?

Actually, both the first and the second are Eli's pages - the first is the 
freshmeat homepage, and thus it is more popular and ranked higher than his 
more personal page.

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Re: [OT] Search results - strange results

2003-11-27 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Thu, Nov 27, 2003, Diego Iastrubni wrote about Re: [OT] Search results - strange 
results:
 other searches:
 meni, hits the spot.
 tzafrir, hits the spot.
...
 (partial list of the people on this list, don't offend if i forgot you)
 
 anyone else would like to know if google recognize him personally? :-)

I was the world's top Nadav for a very long time, until suddenly some
wierd site not mentioning Nadav even once, usurped me.

Altavista seem to like me better, and on their index I'm still the #1 Nadav :)

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fedora core 1 - openoffice 1.1.0-6 Hebrew

2003-11-27 Thread Arie Folger
Hi,

I just upgraded from RH9 to Fedora Core 1 (FC1?) and whereas my experience has 
been wonderful so far, I found the following two issues:

* LPRng disappeared, replaced by CUPS. OK, I don't mind CUPS, except that it 
didn't support my printer until I found out the following: My printer, an HP 
LJ 1150, cannot be installed using redhat-config-printer, but needs to be 
installed using the web interface, instead. Why? (redhat-config-printer does 
otherwise a nice job with SAMBA printers and with restarting the daemon and 
with printing test pages, so it isn't allergic to CUPS). Of course, I had to 
manually change the entry in rc?.d from lpd to cups.

* worse than the above is that the supplied version of OOo, 1.1.0-6, doesn't 
seem to do Hebrew. I tested with the installed-from-tarball 1.1.0, and the 
latter still works 100%, Hebrew and all, but not so the one that is shipped. 
Changing locale doesn't make a difference. Anybody else experience similar 
issues?

Arie
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Re: [OT] Search results - strange results

2003-11-27 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Diego Iastrubni wrote:

 , 27  2003, 12:04,Shachar Shemesh:
 

Gil Freund wrote:
   

From looking at the reults, It's not ranking your site, it's ranking
individual pages. Moreover, it only gives out content from the DOC
file (shame on you ;)) and not from the HTML.
 

Obviously, it's much easier to look into Doc than into HTML.
   

while looking for shachar in google i see your page in the 7th position.

other searches:
meni, hits the spot.
tzafrir, hits the spot.
volovic, 2nd hit, (mark, in first hit, i liked the flowers shots!)
muli, you are third.
shlomi fish, hits the spot.
eli marmor, i suppose 2nd hit? 
gabor szabo, 2,3 hit. 

(partial list of the people on this list, don't offend if i forgot you)

anyone else would like to know if google recognize him personally? :-)
 

What kind of survey is that? :-)
Decide - either you are looking for full name, first name, last name or 
common nick.
For example:
Mark - couldn't locate in first three pages (30 hits).
Volovic - first hit are photographs he took. Home page (empty) is 
second. Home page (non-empty) third. First non-related link - fith 
(family trees up to 7, and again 8 through 12, with 13 being something 
in Japanese).
Mark Volovic - First hit is related to him, his homepage is 27th. First 
non-him hit is 102th.

Likewise
Shachar - 4th hit is me, homepage comes in 7th.
Shemesh - 3rd hit is me, my homepage.
Shachar Shemesh - 1st hit is me (my home page). First non-me hit is 59th.
Now, what does that mean? In short - nothing.
It has to do with how much each of us invests in his respective home 
page, how rare the name is, etc. For example - Marc is a far more common 
name than Shachar, but Volovic is less common than Shemesh. This gives 
me a relative advantage when searching for first name, and him a 
relative advantage when searching for last time. When doing both 
searches, the less common the least common of the two is, the more 
advantage you have. Now, what does that tell anyone about our respective 
penis length again?

I'll remind you that the original question was not about why my site was 
ranked higher/lower than other sites. The question was how come there 
were three hits between two almost identical pages on the same site.

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Re: [OT] Search results - strange results

2003-11-27 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Shachar Shemesh wrote:

 I'll remind you that the original question was not about why my site was
 ranked higher/lower than other sites. The question was how come there
 were three hits between two almost identical pages on the same site.

Perhaps the engine prefers HTML to DOC?

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Re: fedora core 1 - openoffice 1.1.0-6 Hebrew

2003-11-27 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Arie Folger wrote:

* worse than the above is that the supplied version of OOo, 1.1.0-6, doesn't 
seem to do Hebrew. I tested with the installed-from-tarball 1.1.0, and the 
latter still works 100%, Hebrew and all, but not so the one that is shipped. 
Changing locale doesn't make a difference. Anybody else experience similar 
issues?
 

Did you try to explicitly enable complex text layout?

 Shachar

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version of kernel (fwd)

2003-11-27 Thread Ely Levy
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Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:11:27 +0200
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Subject: version of kernel

Shalom . I had kernel 2.4.20-8 and i did updates for the Red-Hat now i
see that when i run the command uname -a i see my kernel version is
2.4.20-8 but when i compare the code i see that the code is suitable to
2.5.* (for example i have multi-queues in the task queue ) what is the
problem or why the uname doesn't see the right version.  thanks.

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Re: version of kernel (fwd)

2003-11-27 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
I'm not sure if he's booting the right kernel and looking at the right tree ;)

2.4.20-20.9 is the latest official redhat 9 kernel..

Hetz

On Thursday 27 November 2003 19:42, Ely Levy wrote:
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 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:11:27 +0200
 From: moses [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: version of kernel

 Shalom . I had kernel 2.4.20-8 and i did updates for the Red-Hat now i
 see that when i run the command uname -a i see my kernel version is
 2.4.20-8 but when i compare the code i see that the code is suitable to
 2.5.* (for example i have multi-queues in the task queue ) what is the
 problem or why the uname doesn't see the right version.  thanks.

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Re: fedora core 1 - openoffice 1.1.0-6 Hebrew

2003-11-27 Thread Arie Folger
On Thursday 27 November 2003 18:33, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
 Arie Folger wrote:
 * worse than the above is that the supplied version of OOo, 1.1.0-6,
  doesn't seem to do Hebrew. I tested with the installed-from-tarball
  1.1.0, and the latter still works 100%, Hebrew and all, but not so the
  one that is shipped. Changing locale doesn't make a difference. Anybody
  else experience similar issues?

 Did you try to explicitly enable complex text layout?

   Shachar

I am using the same dot file directory for both versions (actually, neither is 
now working, and I am struggling to figure out why. I can't open any 
document. Either I get the choose filter dialog, after which, OOo invariably 
dies, or I get the empty window that replaces the StarOffice desktop, and no 
matter what I choose, it won't open a file. Either it is unresponsive, or it 
brings that same filter chooser dialog up), so there should be no difference.

Arie
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clear proofs from the Talmud [to support his argument].
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Re: fedora core 1 - openoffice 1.1.0-6 Hebrew

2003-11-27 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
 * LPRng disappeared, replaced by CUPS. OK, I don't mind CUPS, except that
 it didn't support my printer until I found out the following: My printer,
 an HP LJ 1150, cannot be installed using redhat-config-printer, but needs
 to be installed using the web interface, instead. Why?
 (redhat-config-printer does otherwise a nice job with SAMBA printers and
 with restarting the daemon and with printing test pages, so it isn't
 allergic to CUPS). Of course, I had to manually change the entry in rc?.d
 from lpd to cups.

Well, from my experience, the KDE printer control panel is the easiest one to 
set CUPS with, including your own printer. If you cannot find your printer 
driver for your printer, just mount your Printer driver CDROM, and look for 
the PPD files - then feed them to the KDE printercontrol.

As for switching between CUPS  LPD, try: alternatives

Hetz

 * worse than the above is that the supplied version of OOo, 1.1.0-6,
 doesn't seem to do Hebrew. I tested with the installed-from-tarball 1.1.0,
 and the latter still works 100%, Hebrew and all, but not so the one that is
 shipped. Changing locale doesn't make a difference. Anybody else experience
 similar issues?

 Arie


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SOLVED: fedora core 1 - openoffice 1.1.0-6 Hebrew

2003-11-27 Thread Arie Folger
I deleted all traces of my openoffice installation as far as my homedir goes, 
and ran setup from the rpm installed version, and lo and behold, everything 
is all right now. Hebrew works, German works (including umlauts, i.e. , 
and regardless of locale setting, which was an issue in 1.1.0-RC3).

Thanks for your tips, guys,

Arie
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clear proofs from the Talmud [to support his argument].
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can't save data on disk-on-key

2003-11-27 Thread Shlomo Solomon
Hi,

I borrowed a friend's disk-on-key to try it on my Mandrake box. As hoped, I 
was able to read data from the device with no problem. I just plugged in to 
the USB and an icon appeared on the desktop. Clicking the icon mounted the 
device. But I haven't been able to save data. 

The permissions for the device seem OK.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -lad /mnt/r*
drwxrwxrwx3 solomon  solomon 16384 Jan  1  1970 /mnt/removable/

When I copy a file to the device (using the GUI or command line), I can see 
the file listed. This is also true in the GUI and command line (ls -la). 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -la /mnt/r*/ne*
-rwxrwxrwx1 solomon  solomon  8723 Nov 27 20:27 
/mnt/removable/newfile*

But despite the fact that I can see the file listed, if I unmount and mount 
again, the file I copied to the device is gone.

I've tried manually mounting from the command line both as a regular user and 
as root and that doesn't help. 

BTW - the device itself is formatted for Windows. I can't change that because 
the device is not my property and I have to return it to my friend.

Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

TIA


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Re: can't save data on disk-on-key

2003-11-27 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Most of those devices have write protect latch/switch on them, make sure 
it's off..

Hetz

On Thursday 27 November 2003 20:32, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
 Hi,

 I borrowed a friend's disk-on-key to try it on my Mandrake box. As hoped, I
 was able to read data from the device with no problem. I just plugged in to
 the USB and an icon appeared on the desktop. Clicking the icon mounted the
 device. But I haven't been able to save data.

 The permissions for the device seem OK.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -lad /mnt/r*
 drwxrwxrwx3 solomon  solomon 16384 Jan  1  1970 /mnt/removable/

 When I copy a file to the device (using the GUI or command line), I can see
 the file listed. This is also true in the GUI and command line (ls -la).

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -la /mnt/r*/ne*
 -rwxrwxrwx1 solomon  solomon  8723 Nov 27 20:27
 /mnt/removable/newfile*

 But despite the fact that I can see the file listed, if I unmount and mount
 again, the file I copied to the device is gone.

 I've tried manually mounting from the command line both as a regular user
 and as root and that doesn't help.

 BTW - the device itself is formatted for Windows. I can't change that
 because the device is not my property and I have to return it to my friend.

 Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

 TIA


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Re: can't save data on disk-on-key

2003-11-27 Thread Dotan Mazor
If the switch doesn't work, try to mount it and unmount it manually. Don't 
trust the automount, since this is sometimes a problematic issue...
When you unmount it, the file should then be copied, so leave the 
disk-on-key connected for several moments, and only then remove/remount 
it. Try it with a small file first.
Dotan

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:48:04 +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Most of those devices have write protect latch/switch on them, make 
sure
it's off..

Hetz

On Thursday 27 November 2003 20:32, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
Hi,

I borrowed a friend's disk-on-key to try it on my Mandrake box. As 
hoped, I
was able to read data from the device with no problem. I just plugged 
in to
the USB and an icon appeared on the desktop. Clicking the icon mounted 
the
device. But I haven't been able to save data.

The permissions for the device seem OK.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -lad /mnt/r*
drwxrwxrwx3 solomon  solomon 16384 Jan  1  1970 /mnt/removable/
When I copy a file to the device (using the GUI or command line), I can 
see
the file listed. This is also true in the GUI and command line (ls -la).

[EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ ls -la /mnt/r*/ne*
-rwxrwxrwx1 solomon  solomon  8723 Nov 27 20:27
/mnt/removable/newfile*
But despite the fact that I can see the file listed, if I unmount and 
mount
again, the file I copied to the device is gone.

I've tried manually mounting from the command line both as a regular 
user
and as root and that doesn't help.

BTW - the device itself is formatted for Windows. I can't change that
because the device is not my property and I have to return it to my 
friend.

Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

TIA


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Re: can't save data on disk-on-key

2003-11-27 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Thursday 27 November 2003 20:48, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
 Most of those devices have write protect latch/switch on them, make sure
 it's off..

that was the first thing I checked ;-)

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Re: can't save data on disk-on-key

2003-11-27 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Shlomo Solomon wrote:

 On Thursday 27 November 2003 20:48, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
  Most of those devices have write protect latch/switch on them, make sure
  it's off..

 that was the first thing I checked ;-)

Copy a huge file on it and the umount.  At least one of them
should take long.

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Re: can't save data on disk-on-key

2003-11-27 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Thursday 27 November 2003 21:42, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
 On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
  On Thursday 27 November 2003 20:48, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
   Most of those devices have write protect latch/switch on them, make
   sure it's off..
 
  that was the first thing I checked ;-)

 Copy a huge file on it and the umount.  At least one of them
 should take long

1 - copied a 100 Mega file (it took over 2 minutes)
2 - waited for the led to stop flickering
3 - checked from command line AND from GUI - the file was there
4 - waited another 2 minutes
5 - umount
6 - mount
7 - the 100 mega file is gone :-(

this is crazy

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Re: can't save data on disk-on-key

2003-11-27 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 10:06:26PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
 On Thursday 27 November 2003 21:42, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
  On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
   On Thursday 27 November 2003 20:48, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
Most of those devices have write protect latch/switch on them, make
sure it's off..
  
   that was the first thing I checked ;-)
 
  Copy a huge file on it and the umount.  At least one of them
  should take long
 
 1 - copied a 100 Mega file (it took over 2 minutes)
 2 - waited for the led to stop flickering
 3 - checked from command line AND from GUI - the file was there
 4 - waited another 2 minutes
 5 - umount
 6 - mount
 7 - the 100 mega file is gone :-(
 
 this is crazy

Indeed.
What does dmesg say?
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Re: can't save data on disk-on-key

2003-11-27 Thread Omer Zak
I had a similar problem with my USB disk-on-key.
The problem happened when it was mounted as /dev/sda1 on mount point
(/mnt/diskonkey in my system).
When I changed it to mount as /dev/sda4, the problem disappeared.
YMMV, so check also other /dev/sda* devices.

Usually, kudzu detects as /dev/sda1 and automatically modifies /etc/fstab
accordingly.
I manually added the line without the 'kudzu' option to force the device
to mount as /dev/sda4 when I ask to mount it.
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On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:

 On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Shlomo Solomon wrote:

  On Thursday 27 November 2003 20:48, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
   Most of those devices have write protect latch/switch on them, make sure
   it's off..
 
  that was the first thing I checked ;-)

 Copy a huge file on it and the umount.At least one of them
 should take long.


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Re: can't save data on disk-on-key

2003-11-27 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Thursday 27 November 2003 22:30, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 10:06:26PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
  On Thursday 27 November 2003 21:42, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
   On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
On Thursday 27 November 2003 20:48, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
 Most of those devices have write protect latch/switch on them,
 make sure it's off..
   
that was the first thing I checked ;-)
  
   Copy a huge file on it and the umount.  At least one of them
   should take long
 
  1 - copied a 100 Mega file (it took over 2 minutes)
  2 - waited for the led to stop flickering
  3 - checked from command line AND from GUI - the file was there
  4 - waited another 2 minutes
  5 - umount
  6 - mount
  7 - the 100 mega file is gone :-(
 
  this is crazy

 Indeed.
 What does dmesg say?

when I mount I get the following in dmesg:
MSDOS FS: IO charset utf8

and this is in syslog:
Nov 27 23:12:54 shlomo1 kernel: MSDOS FS: IO charset utf8

copying a file or umount don't show anything in dmesg or syslog

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Re: can't save data on disk-on-key

2003-11-27 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 11:18:16PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
 On Thursday 27 November 2003 22:30, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
  What does dmesg say?
 
 when I mount I get the following in dmesg:
 MSDOS FS: IO charset utf8
 
 and this is in syslog:
 Nov 27 23:12:54 shlomo1 kernel: MSDOS FS: IO charset utf8
 
 copying a file or umount don't show anything in dmesg or syslog

utf8 is suspicious for me - I never used it on vfat. Is this
autodetected, or in /etc/fstab (by you or by kudzu)? Oh, just a
second - it's MSDOS? Not vfat? Why? Can you try vfat, with and
without options (such as iocharset=, codepage=, uni_xlate, utf8)?
But that's not all I asked for. What does dmesg say when plugging
in or out?
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Re: can't save data on disk-on-key

2003-11-27 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Thursday 27 November 2003 23:44, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 11:18:16PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
  On Thursday 27 November 2003 22:30, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
   What does dmesg say?
 
  when I mount I get the following in dmesg:
  MSDOS FS: IO charset utf8
 
  and this is in syslog:
  Nov 27 23:12:54 shlomo1 kernel: MSDOS FS: IO charset utf8
 
  copying a file or umount don't show anything in dmesg or syslog

 utf8 is suspicious for me - I never used it on vfat. Is this
 autodetected, or in /etc/fstab (by you or by kudzu)? Oh, just a

I didn't make any changes to fstab. Kudzu detected the disk-on-key and 
automatically set up all parameters. Here's what I found in fstab:
/dev/sda1 /mnt/removable auto user,iocharset=utf8,kudzu,noauto,umask=0,exec 0 
0

I also tried changing that to sda4 in fstab as Omer suggested and got:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ mount /dev/sda4
mount: special device /dev/sda4 does not exist


 second - it's MSDOS? Not vfat? Why? Can you try vfat, with and
 without options (such as iocharset=, codepage=, uni_xlate, utf8)?

Why? - as noted above, this was all set up by KUDZU. I'm not sure I understand 
your suggestion. Do you mean I should make changes to fstab and if so, what 
changes?

 But that's not all I asked for. What does dmesg say when plugging
 in or out?

here's dmesg after unplugging and immediately plugging in again:

usb.c: USB disconnect on device 00:07.2-1.3 address 25
hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-1.3, assigned address 26
WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured
USB Mass Storage device found at 26

I was unable to find any useful information about the above warning message on 
GOOGLE. The message appears in lots of posts to various forums, but nobody 
writes if it's a problem (after all it is a warning and not an error, so I 
guess people are ignoring it).





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Re: [OT?] SPAM

2003-11-27 Thread Amichai Rotman
On Tuesday 25 November 2003 20:49, Kfir Lavi wrote:
 When you post to a public list, the spammers will see your email and
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Re: extended Israeli keyboard layout

2003-11-27 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 09:38:26PM +0200, Gil Freund wrote:
 Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
 
 Hi
 
 http://iglu.org.il/cgi-bin/fom?file=86 has been updated regarding
 keyboard configuration. I also put there more information about the
 avilable extended variants of the Israeli layout in XFree 4.3 . 
 
 They were originally added as initial prototypes, in hope to get user
 input. Unfortunetly there has beenenough of that.
 
 
 Great work!
 
 Questions:
 
 (1) XkbOptions
 In the 4.2 section you state that to set the keyboard toggle you have to 
 execute:
  setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll il
 
 Whereas in the 4.3 section you state that you set the toggle in the 
 XF86Config using:
  Option XkbOptions grp:switch,grp:shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll
 
 Aren't those the same (i.e. archive the same goal) and work the same 
 both in 4.2 and 4.3?

The options are the same. The only syntax change from XFree 4.2 to XFree
4.3 is that you should now use us,il instead of il, because il no
longer includes the American layout implicitly.

 (4) Section 2, the paragraph starting with All the above-mentioned menu 
 options , elaboration would be nice. I still have difficulty 
 understanding the difference between groups and layouts.

Started writing it:

http://iglu.org.il/cgi-bin/fom?file=220

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Re: can't save data on disk-on-key

2003-11-27 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Shlomo Solomon wrote:

  second - it's MSDOS? Not vfat? Why? Can you try vfat, with and
  without options (such as iocharset=, codepage=, uni_xlate, utf8)?

 Why? - as noted above, this was all set up by KUDZU. I'm not sure I understand
 your suggestion. Do you mean I should make changes to fstab and if so, what
 changes?

Don't trust any app ;).  Change 'auto' to 'vfat' in fstab and
give it a try.

  But that's not all I asked for. What does dmesg say when plugging
  in or out?

 here's dmesg after unplugging and immediately plugging in again:

 usb.c: USB disconnect on device 00:07.2-1.3 address 25
 hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-1.3, assigned address 26
 WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured
 USB Mass Storage device found at 26

 I was unable to find any useful information about the above warning message on
 GOOGLE. The message appears in lots of posts to various forums, but nobody
 writes if it's a problem (after all it is a warning and not an error, so I
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mozilla firebird.

2003-11-27 Thread Tzahi Fadida
I have a winbox which i run mozilla firebird.
how do i manully change the properties scripts so that when i hit CTRL-N a new
tab will open instead of a new window. ( i tried the extention that do that, and
it worked for a while but it stoped doing it for some reason)
also, when i enter the technion site webCT it uses a western encoding on
default, and i entered in the customize the various hebrew encodings and have
put them first but to no avail, is there something to be done?
10x.

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hybernation fro mxp and 8139too

2003-11-27 Thread Diego Iastrubni
Hi,

when I hybernate from XP and boot into linux (mandrake 9.2), the nic (a 
realteck, 8139too) does not respond. I have to boot into XP and then shutdown 
to make it work again. Some apm issue maybe? can someone guide me to a 
solution?

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Re: mozilla firebird.

2003-11-27 Thread Lior Kaplan
Hi Tzahi,

1. Why not use CTRL+T for a new tab?
2. A look at the WebCT source code reveals that they use 'windows-1255'
encoding. Make sure that encoding is well defined (font etc.). The rest of
the Technion's site uses iso-8859-8 encoding.

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 I have a winbox which i run mozilla firebird.
 how do i manully change the properties scripts so that when i hit CTRL-N a
new
 tab will open instead of a new window. ( i tried the extention that do
that, and
 it worked for a while but it stoped doing it for some reason)
 also, when i enter the technion site webCT it uses a western encoding on
 default, and i entered in the customize the various hebrew encodings and
have
 put them first but to no avail, is there something to be done?
 10x.

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Re: can't save data on disk-on-key

2003-11-27 Thread Micha Feigin
On Fri, Nov 28, 2003 at 12:37:19AM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
 On Thursday 27 November 2003 23:44, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
  On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 11:18:16PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
   On Thursday 27 November 2003 22:30, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
What does dmesg say?
  
   when I mount I get the following in dmesg:
   MSDOS FS: IO charset utf8
  
   and this is in syslog:
   Nov 27 23:12:54 shlomo1 kernel: MSDOS FS: IO charset utf8
  
   copying a file or umount don't show anything in dmesg or syslog
 
  utf8 is suspicious for me - I never used it on vfat. Is this
  autodetected, or in /etc/fstab (by you or by kudzu)? Oh, just a
 
 I didn't make any changes to fstab. Kudzu detected the disk-on-key and 
 automatically set up all parameters. Here's what I found in fstab:
 /dev/sda1 /mnt/removable auto user,iocharset=utf8,kudzu,noauto,umask=0,exec 0 
 0
 
 I also tried changing that to sda4 in fstab as Omer suggested and got:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ mount /dev/sda4
 mount: special device /dev/sda4 does not exist
 

you could try running fdisk -l /dev/sda to see what partitions actually
exist on that device (they can sometimes have somewhat strange
prtitioning schemes).

 
  second - it's MSDOS? Not vfat? Why? Can you try vfat, with and
  without options (such as iocharset=, codepage=, uni_xlate, utf8)?
 
 Why? - as noted above, this was all set up by KUDZU. I'm not sure I understand 
 your suggestion. Do you mean I should make changes to fstab and if so, what 
 changes?
 
  But that's not all I asked for. What does dmesg say when plugging
  in or out?
 
 here's dmesg after unplugging and immediately plugging in again:
 
 usb.c: USB disconnect on device 00:07.2-1.3 address 25
 hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-1.3, assigned address 26
 WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured
 USB Mass Storage device found at 26
 
 I was unable to find any useful information about the above warning message on 
 GOOGLE. The message appears in lots of posts to various forums, but nobody 
 writes if it's a problem (after all it is a warning and not an error, so I 
 guess people are ignoring it).
 
 
 
 
 
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hebrew in fedora revisited

2003-11-27 Thread Aaron
Hi all,

I am trying to type hebrew in vim and unlike in RH 9.0 I see no hebrew,
I try changing fonts and no go.

I have the ability to read hebrew in kde but not in vim??

I would appreciate any help you could offer, thanks
Aaron



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Re: can't save data on disk-on-key

2003-11-27 Thread Omer Zak

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Micha Feigin wrote:

 On Fri, Nov 28, 2003 at 12:37:19AM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
  On Thursday 27 November 2003 23:44, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:
   On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 11:18:16PM +0200, Shlomo Solomon wrote:
On Thursday 27 November 2003 22:30, Yedidyah Bar-David wrote:

[... snipped ...]

  I didn't make any changes to fstab. Kudzu detectedthe disk-on-key and
  automatically set up all parameters. Here's what I found in fstab:
  /dev/sda1 /mnt/removable auto user,iocharset=utf8,kudzu,noauto,umask=0,exec 0
  0
 
  I also tried changing that to sda4 in fstab as Omer suggested and got:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] solomon]$ mount /dev/sda4
  mount: special device /dev/sda4 does not exist
 

 you could try running fdisk -l /dev/sda to see what partitions actually
 exist on that device (they can sometimes have somewhat strange
 prtitioning schemes).

[... snipped ...]

  here's dmesg after unplugging and immediately plugging in again:
 
  usb.c: USB disconnect on device 00:07.2-1.3 address 25
  hub.c: new USB device 00:07.2-1.3, assigned address 26
  WARNING: USB Mass Storage data integrity not assured
  USB Mass Storage device found at 26

1. Is your disk-on-key connected directly to one of the PC's USB
   connections, or via an USB hub?

2. Try to check /dev/sdah10, /dev/sdax10 (their minor number is 26).
   Their major numbers may be wrong, however.
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Re: hybernation fro mxp and 8139too

2003-11-27 Thread Gil Freund
Diego Iastrubni wrote:

Hi,

when I hybernate from XP and boot into linux (mandrake 9.2), the nic (a 
realteck, 8139too) does not respond. I have to boot into XP and then shutdown 
to make it work again. Some apm issue maybe? can someone guide me to a 
solution?

This is more likely an ACPI issue rather then an APM issue.
If Windows is using ACPI and Linux is using APM (specially on newer 
laptops), it is common phenomena.

In Windows, Open the NIC properties, click configure and check if the 
NIC has a Power Properties tab. If it does, uncheck the Allow the 
computer to turn off this device to save power



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Re: can't save data on disk-on-key

2003-11-27 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Friday 28 November 2003 02:36, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:


 Don't trust any app ;).  Change 'auto' to 'vfat' in fstab and
 give it a try.


Thanks - that did it .

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