Re: Cable Internet
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, Julian Daich wrote:
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El lun, 16-04-2007 a las 10:46 +1000, Geoff Shang escribi?:
I'm about to move to Israel with my wife. We've managed to land ourselves
a good deal for cable Internet, and I've been reading conflicting
information about how it works.
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AFAIK and at least until four months ago, cable uses L2TP. For more
information check out
http://www.netcheif.com/Articles/BrdBandDefs/BrdBandDefs.htm
This is a Hebrew article - is there something similar in English?
- yba
Thanks in advance for any help you can give. It's confusing trying to get
technical questions answered from the other side of the world when you don't
speak the language.
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Re: Linux friendly hardware RAID card in Israel
On Monday 16 April 2007 03:08, Arieh Skliarouk quoth: > Hi, LSI Logic have multiple models. From 150-4 (4 SATA-1 ports) to 300-8X (8 SATA-2 ports). I am using an LSI 150-6 (6 SATA-1 ports) and it can be installed transparently. The later models (3xx) have RAID 0,1,5,6,1+0 and 10. The earlier models lack RAID6. > Can anyone recommend me Linux friendly hardware RAID card with following > features: > >- Available for purchase from Israel company or reseller >- SATA support for 4 drives or more >- Open source driver included in latests 2.6 kernel >- Must support true HW RAID[0,1,5] raid, when BIOS and Linux see only >single disk (unlike Promise cards). >- Consequence of previous two requirements: debian 4.0 can install >itself onto the RAID (configured from BIOS), out-of-the-box. >- hot-swap is not necessary, the system can be powered off for >maintenance sometimes. > > Thank you in advance! -- ---MAV Marc A. Volovic Linguists do it cunningly = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cable Internet
On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 10:40:23AM +0300, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: > >AFAIK and at least until four months ago, cable uses L2TP. For more > >information check out > >http://www.netcheif.com/Articles/BrdBandDefs/BrdBandDefs.htm > > This is a Hebrew article - is there something similar in English? I've never seen anything like it. BTW, routers purchased in the U.S. WON'T work here. The only exception is the Linksys WRTG54-L (linux version) with third party firmware. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 Fax ONLY: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cable Internet
El lun, 16-04-2007 a las 10:40 +0300, Jonathan Ben Avraham escribió: > > http://www.netcheif.com/Articles/BrdBandDefs/BrdBandDefs.htm > > This is a Hebrew article - is there something similar in English? > >- yba You are right. Sorry( see original Geoff comments bellow). At least the word Linux and the names of protocols and modems are in Latin characters at the tables, including their links. I just STFWed Googling for¨ israel cable L2TP¨ to find useful links. See some examples. http://l3ech.net/cables_linux_l2tp.php?reverse=on http://www.tournament.org.il/run/index.php?/archives/33-Cables-in-Israel-and-L2TP-on-Fedora-Core-3-Linux.html http://support.actcom.co.il/support/tips/cableen/cableRedhat_l2tp.php http://www.technion.ac.il/~eyalroz/linux_cable_pptp.html#pptp_l2tp_pppoe Hope it is useful. > >> Thanks in advance for any help you can give. It's confusing trying to get > >> technical questions answered from the other side of the world when you > >> don't > >> speak the language. -- Julian Daich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [isramac] connecting with a cable modem
Here's something I wrote to the Israel Mac user's list about it cable modems. I'll make changes where needed: - Forwarded message from "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:57:43 +0200 > From: "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [isramac] connecting with a cable modem > There is a hidden catch with cable modems in Israel. Since HOT and BEZEQ > are not legally permitted to be ISPs, they cannot offer you a connection > to the Internet. Therefore unless you use MPLS, which creates a VPN (aka > tunnel) inside HOT's network for you, you have to use a VPN/tunnel > to connect to the Internet. > > That's what you've been doing using L2TP on your PC. L2TP is a tunneling > protcol championed by Microsoft. It's not very good, but it works, > and the hardware at the ISP's end is a lot cheaper than any other. > > The hidden gotcha with cable modems is how they allocate connections > to the ISP. When your computer connects to HOT's network, it is > assigned an IP address in a local network. That local network has a > gateway to HOT's main network and via that gateway you connect to > a tunneling/VPN gateway which connects you to the outside world. > > The problem is that software designed for the U.S. assumes the gateway > out of the LAN is the same as the tunneling gateway. That's why routers > from the U.S. won't work here using cable modems without MPLS (which > is now almost impossible to get). > > I don't know if MacOS supports L2TP off the top of my head, and I'm > not near a Mac to check it out. Note MacOS X and Linux both support L2TP. I have an old connection with Netvision, from before L2TP was popular and I use pptp. > > A friend of mine has a Mac and he uses 013 and has had problems which > they fixed for him, knowing well he had a Mac. Netvision also supports > Macs. > > Since he uses an aDSL line and OS9 (no tunneling support), he got a router > from BEZEQ and uses that to connect to his ISP. > > At this point you can buy a cheap combination router/4 port hub/WiFi access > point for around 230 NIS at Office Depot. > > I suggest you get one, or spend the extra money and get a "name brand". - End forwarded message - Also note that since I wrote the reply to the original message at around 7:30 am, my cable connection was down twice. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 Fax ONLY: 972-2-648-1443 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cable Internet
Just a small correction > I've never seen anything like it. BTW, routers purchased in the U.S. > WON'T work here. The only exception is the Linksys WRTG54-L (linux > version) with third party firmware. I have a D-LINK 614+ router purchased in the USA, and it works fine here with cable internet (L2TP) via actcom. The Israeli technical support staff were helpful in getting it set up. Jason = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dynamically configuring ssh ip address
On 4/15/07, Maxim Veksler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/15/07, Ehud Karni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 16:18:20 +1000, Amos Shapira wrote: > > > > That said, I'm not sure that I can trust SSH_CLIENT/SSH_CONNECTION since > > they are passed from the client. Maybe a getpeername(2) on stdin/stdout can > > be used as a more secure way to obtain the client's IP. > > You are mistaken. You can trust the SSH_CLIENT/SSH_CONNECTION, it is > taken from the TCP stack, not from the client (same as getpeername). Just when did this list go crazy? There's a solution fitting your problem - dynamic DNS (with DNSSEC). Why hack something when any modern DNS server supports it through configuration?
Re: dynamically configuring ssh ip address
On 16/04/07, Ilya Konstantinov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just when did this list go crazy? There's a solution fitting your problem - dynamic DNS (with DNSSEC). Why hack something when any modern DNS server supports it through configuration? When not having access to the DNS server to enable it (or knowing whether it supports this at all - stinky MS stuff). On the other hand - maybe I can install a local one on my desktop machine and update it with dnssec - any recommendations in that area (among the options available as Debian Etch packages)? --Amos
Re: dynamically configuring ssh ip address
On 4/16/07, Amos Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 16/04/07, Ilya Konstantinov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just when did this list go crazy? There's a solution fitting your > problem - dynamic DNS (with DNSSEC). Why hack something when any modern DNS > server supports it through configuration? > When not having access to the DNS server to enable it (or knowing whether it supports this at all - stinky MS stuff). Microsoft's DNS server ain't particularly bad (and its management tools are certainly better than Bind's). Don't knock it if you don't know it. On the other hand - maybe I can install a local one on my desktop machine and update it with dnssec - any recommendations in that area (among the options available as Debian Etch packages)? Bind (Debian "bind9" package) will do just fine.
Wireless PCI card that can act as Access Point ?
Hello, Could someone please recommend a PCI WiFi card with prism 2/2.5/3 chipset available for purchase in Israel ? I would like to make an AP from it based on RH4. http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/07/10/1729226 Can't find any of those in Zap or anything http://wiki.personaltelco.net/index.cgi/Prism2Card. -- Cheers, Maxim Veksler "Free as in Freedom" - Do u GNU ? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wireless PCI card that can act as Access Point ?
Quoth Maxim Veksler: > Could someone please recommend a PCI WiFi card with prism 2/2.5/3 > chipset available for purchase in Israel ? > > I would like to make an AP from it based on RH4. > http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/07/10/1729226 > > Can't find any of those in Zap or anything > http://wiki.personaltelco.net/index.cgi/Prism2Card. Truth be told - I never did like the way Linux works as an AP. And - at home - I did not use Linux for an AP, but a pfSense. Using standard atheros cards. To your specific question - IIRC, the prism2 series is long gone... -- ---MAV Marc A. Volovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Swiftouch, LTD +972-544-676764 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cable Internet
Hello, Thanks to everyone who responded. So it seems that some howtos need updating. Ok so since I'm going to get a router eventually anyway, I need to get one that does L2TP, right? Are most Israeli routers L2TP enabled or do I need to specifically ask for it? I was hoping in the short term to be able to plg my Zyxel Prestige 2002 VoIP adaptor in to the connection, but I'm guessing it won't work until I get a router and do the necessary configurations. Any recommendations for good routers? (if such recommendations are against any list policies, feel free to recommend off list). And just while I'm curious, is ADSL standard PPPoE or something more complicated? Geoff. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wireless PCI card that can act as Access Point ?
Hi, I assume you want to use your box as router+WiFi or such. Instead of building the configuration from scratch, I would recommend to look at LinkSys WRT54GL, which is availabe on zap: http://web.zap.co.il/models.asp?sog=&keyword=WRT54GL And then reflash it with Linux: http://www.lifehacker.com/software/router/hack-attack-turn-your-60-router-into-a-600-router-178132.php -- Arieh
Re: Cable Internet
Hi! ADSL standard is PPPoE . Dani Geoff Shang wrote: > Hello, > > Thanks to everyone who responded. > > So it seems that some howtos need updating. Ok so since I'm going to > get a router eventually anyway, I need to get one that does L2TP, > right? Are most Israeli routers L2TP enabled or do I need to > specifically ask for it? > > I was hoping in the short term to be able to plg my Zyxel Prestige > 2002 VoIP adaptor in to the connection, but I'm guessing it won't work > until I get a router and do the necessary configurations. > > Any recommendations for good routers? (if such recommendations are > against any list policies, feel free to recommend off list). > > And just while I'm curious, is ADSL standard PPPoE or something more > complicated? > > Geoff. > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cable Internet
El lun, 16-04-2007 a las 21:51 +1000, Geoff Shang escribió: > Hello, > > Thanks to everyone who responded. > > So it seems that some howtos need updating. Ok so since I'm going to get a > router eventually anyway, I need to get one that does L2TP, right? Are > most Israeli routers L2TP enabled or do I need to specifically ask for it? Many of them but not all, you should request for routers with good cable support. 3Com routers work fine with L2TP. -- Julian Daich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux friendly hardware RAID card in Israel
I have used RAIDCore cards (then Broadcom). Purchased from Excellnet. I used 8 port cards, and the beauty is that since they do "software" raid, you can combine up to 4 controllers and created a 32 drives RAID array (>16TB with 500GB SATA disks ). The driver is not open-source, but they provide drivers for the latest disributions, plus a kit that lets you link their driver to unsupported kernels. I don't think you can install debian out of the box ion them. If that's what you want, I suggest you check what drivers Debian pack in, and choose that way - I believe LSI logic would work out of the [debian] box, and probably 3ware as well. Good luck Dan On 4/16/07, Arieh Skliarouk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Can anyone recommend me Linux friendly hardware RAID card with following features: Available for purchase from Israel company or reseller SATA support for 4 drives or more Open source driver included in latests 2.6 kernel Must support true HW RAID[0,1,5] raid, when BIOS and Linux see only single disk (unlike Promise cards). Consequence of previous two requirements: debian 4.0 can install itself onto the RAID (configured from BIOS), out-of-the-box. hot-swap is not necessary, the system can be powered off for maintenance sometimes.Thank you in advance! -- Arieh = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Recommendation for software/hardware for virtualization
Hi, As part of my new job, i am going to develop also windows kernel/drivers. Therefore i will have to (naturally) run windows, however, i got comfortable with linux desktop and i am reluctant to move back to windows as my main desktop environment. What are my options, considering i am willing to buy ANY (within reason) new hardware to accommodate the possibility of running the two OSs (linux and windows) in tandem without interfering with the work flow. What is the most optimal solution money can buy software wise. 10x. -- Regards, Tzahi. -- Tzahi Fadida Blog: http://tzahi.blogsite.org | Home Site: http://tzahi.webhop.info WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommendation for software/hardware for virtualization
I think that your best bet would be to use virtual machines (VMware or competitor). You can (EULA permitting) save copies of images at various stages of installation and operation. Then, when something goes wrong (as it invariably would), you can restore an older image, with cost only of copying 4GB data from one place to another place. Another option is to use two computers - one running Linux, to be used to edit files, and the other one - to run compilations and executions. They'll use SAMBA to share files. At a previous work I used both approaches. --- Omer On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 21:11 +0300, Tzahi Fadida wrote: > Hi, > As part of my new job, i am going to develop also windows kernel/drivers. > Therefore i will have to (naturally) run windows, however, i got comfortable > with linux desktop and i am reluctant to move back to windows as my main > desktop environment. > What are my options, considering i am willing to buy ANY (within reason) new > hardware to accommodate the possibility of running the two OSs (linux and > windows) in tandem without interfering with the work flow. > What is the most optimal solution money can buy software wise. -- In civilized societies, captions are as important in movies as soundtracks, professional photography and expert editing. My own blog is at http://tddpirate.livejournal.com/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommendation for software/hardware for virtualization
Tzahi Fadida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As part of my new job, i am going to develop also windows > kernel/drivers. Therefore i will have to (naturally) run windows, > however, i got comfortable with linux desktop and i am reluctant to > move back to windows as my main desktop environment. Don't. Windows GUI sucks in so many major ways compared to Linux. > What are my options, considering i am willing to buy ANY (within > reason) new hardware to accommodate the possibility of running the > two OSs (linux and windows) in tandem without interfering with the > work flow. What is the most optimal solution money can buy software > wise. I am confused: software-wise or hardware-wise? Well, in any case, the following options come to mind (I have personal experience with all of them, they all work): 1) 2 computers, 2 monitors (a dual flat panel may be very nice). I would prefer this solution, unless you are really afraid that you would be distracted by the second screen even when it is off. I used to work like this 10 to 5 years ago and liked it a lot. You can use a KVM switch to have a single keyboard and a single mouse, if your desk area is limited. 2) 2 computers, 1 monitor, KVM switch - only one desktop shown at a time which may be a disadvantage, depending on the work pattern. I used to work like this, too, it is OK, but I didn't like the necessity to switch the display. Make sure your KVM supports switching from the keyboard, otherwise you will have to have the switch and the cables on your (physical) desktop next to your keyboard/mouse to press the stupid button, which is a nuisance. 3) 2 computers, 1 monitor, either an X server on Windows or an RDP client on Linux or VNC (in either direction) or something of the kind. Pros: 1 monitor, simultaneous display. Cons: you may get good performance or you may find it a bit sluggish depending on the configuration and on what you do, YMMV. 4) Solution 2 above + the software in solution 3 for those cases when you need to see the Linux and Windows screens simultaneously. Pros compared to 3 - you can make any of the computers your main screen and display the other desktop in a window at will. 5) A virtual machine such as VMware. You will need a decent computer, enough memory, etc., but the requirements are modest by today's standards. I run Linux on a T43 Thinkpad and there are some things (being nice to co-workers mainly) that I need to do in Windows, so I have an XP in a VMware Player, allocated 368MB of RAM out of the total GB to it, and it works just fine. Depending on what kernel work you will be doing, you may need to run Windows on real HW and Linux in a VM, which may be less than absolutely perfect (but probably decent) if you spend the vast majority of your time in the Linux desktop. The above assumes that we are talking about desktop computers and you will be working at your desk. Hope it helps. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.goldshmidt.org = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommendation for software/hardware for virtualization
On Monday 16 April 2007 22:16:00 Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > 5) A virtual machine such as VMware. You will need a decent computer, >enough memory, etc., but the requirements are modest by today's >standards. I run Linux on a T43 Thinkpad and there are some things >(being nice to co-workers mainly) that I need to do in Windows, so >I have an XP in a VMware Player, allocated 368MB of RAM out of the >total GB to it, and it works just fine. Depending on what kernel >work you will be doing, you may need to run Windows on real HW and >Linux in a VM, which may be less than absolutely perfect (but >probably decent) if you spend the vast majority of your time in the >Linux desktop. > > The above assumes that we are talking about desktop computers and you > will be working at your desk. There are 2 workplaces i am looking at. At work i am getting 1 computer with who knows what on it. 99% it is windows. It would be stupid to develop drivers on your main OS, thus i am guessing vmware would be the other solution there anyway, so i will also run linux on a separate vmware session or run cygwin solutions. However, i got the feeling it won't play nice if i have 1 main OS + 2 guests at the same time. As a kernel developer, however, i may get a new computer with those new CPUs that can handle VT. Do you think they will be able to handle 2 guests? The other place is at home which is here i am referring to the hw solution. Here the host os will obviously remain Linux and thus, the virtualized OS would be windows. I guess VMWARE here too? What about XEN? I hear that there are CPUs which are better at virtualization , what should i purchase? currently my computer won't be able to handle another OS since it is p1.6. -- Regards, Tzahi. -- Tzahi Fadida Blog: http://tzahi.blogsite.org | Home Site: http://tzahi.webhop.info WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OLPC talk by Zvi Devir
Hi, The talk today: http://haifux.org/lectures/163/ Was excellent (at least the part I saw, I got late). Few photos of the toy: http://www.flickr.com/photos/oron_peled Photos of some people were sent to the guilty by private mail ;-) -- Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron ICQ UIN: 16527398 "Man cannot discover new oceans unless he has the courage to lose sight of the shore..." = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommendation for software/hardware for virtualization
Tzahi Fadida wrote: On Monday 16 April 2007 22:16:00 Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: 5) A virtual machine such as VMware. You will need a decent computer, enough memory, etc., but the requirements are modest by today's standards. I run Linux on a T43 Thinkpad and there are some things (being nice to co-workers mainly) that I need to do in Windows, so I have an XP in a VMware Player, allocated 368MB of RAM out of the total GB to it, and it works just fine. Depending on what kernel work you will be doing, you may need to run Windows on real HW and Linux in a VM, which may be less than absolutely perfect (but probably decent) if you spend the vast majority of your time in the Linux desktop. The above assumes that we are talking about desktop computers and you will be working at your desk. There are 2 workplaces i am looking at. At work i am getting 1 computer with who knows what on it. 99% it is windows. It would be stupid to develop drivers on your main OS, thus i am guessing vmware would be the other solution there anyway, so i will also run linux on a separate vmware session or run cygwin solutions. However, i got the feeling it won't play nice if i have 1 main OS + 2 guests at the same time. As a kernel developer, however, i may get a new computer with those new CPUs that can handle VT. Do you think they will be able to handle 2 guests? The other place is at home which is here i am referring to the hw solution. Here the host os will obviously remain Linux and thus, the virtualized OS would be windows. I guess VMWARE here too? What about XEN? I hear that there are CPUs which are better at virtualization , what should i purchase? currently my computer won't be able to handle another OS since it is p1.6. normally, when developing drivers for windows, especially if they are hardware drivers - you can't do that on a guest OS - you need to do this on an OS running directly on the hardware. this is because the guest only sees virtualized hardware - and your company's hardware is not supported by the virtualization engine ;) thus, in most driver-related work places, you will get 2 computers anyway - one on which to develop the code and compile it. one on which to run the driver (and crash it every once in a while). thus, you will be able to run the virtualization system on the first PC. note that in windows, you often connect the debugger, from the development machine, via a serial (COM) cable to the target machine. thus, if you'll run windows as a guest - it'll need access to the COM port - you'll have to figure out how to configure it, and be ready to handle problems on your own - no one in the company will help you with it - unless there's another linux freak there ;) --guy = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommendation for software/hardware for virtualization
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 01:29:44 guy keren wrote: > Tzahi Fadida wrote: > > On Monday 16 April 2007 22:16:00 Oleg Goldshmidt wrote: > >> 5) A virtual machine such as VMware. You will need a decent computer, > >>enough memory, etc., but the requirements are modest by today's > >>standards. I run Linux on a T43 Thinkpad and there are some things > >>(being nice to co-workers mainly) that I need to do in Windows, so > >>I have an XP in a VMware Player, allocated 368MB of RAM out of the > >>total GB to it, and it works just fine. Depending on what kernel > >>work you will be doing, you may need to run Windows on real HW and > >>Linux in a VM, which may be less than absolutely perfect (but > >>probably decent) if you spend the vast majority of your time in the > >>Linux desktop. > >> > >> The above assumes that we are talking about desktop computers and you > >> will be working at your desk. > > > > There are 2 workplaces i am looking at. > > At work i am getting 1 computer with who knows what on it. 99% it is > > windows. It would be stupid to develop drivers on your main OS, thus i am > > guessing vmware would be the other solution there anyway, so i will also > > run linux on a separate vmware session or run cygwin solutions. However, > > i got the feeling it won't play nice if i have 1 main OS + 2 guests at > > the same time. As a kernel developer, however, i may get a new computer > > with those new CPUs that can handle VT. Do you think they will be able to > > handle 2 guests? > > > > The other place is at home which is here i am referring to the hw > > solution. Here the host os will obviously remain Linux and thus, the > > virtualized OS would be windows. I guess VMWARE here too? What about XEN? > > I hear that there are CPUs which are better at virtualization , what > > should i purchase? currently my computer won't be able to handle another > > OS since it is p1.6. > > normally, when developing drivers for windows, especially if they are > hardware drivers - you can't do that on a guest OS - you need to do this > on an OS running directly on the hardware. this is because the guest > only sees virtualized hardware - and your company's hardware is not > supported by the virtualization engine ;) No hardware. It is all software (security etc...). > thus, in most driver-related work places, you will get 2 computers > anyway - one on which to develop the code and compile it. one on which > to run the driver (and crash it every once in a while). thus, you will > be able to run the virtualization system on the first PC. note that in > windows, you often connect the debugger, from the development machine, > via a serial (COM) cable to the target machine. thus, if you'll run > windows as a guest - it'll need access to the COM port - you'll have to > figure out how to configure it, and be ready to handle problems on your > own - no one in the company will help you with it - unless there's > another linux freak there ;) Well, the product is cross-platforms and we have a few linux developers there. Hopefully, i'll get some help with that if necessary. -- Regards, Tzahi. -- Tzahi Fadida Blog: http://tzahi.blogsite.org | Home Site: http://tzahi.webhop.info WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
