Re: External Hard Drives and Linux

2007-11-06 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
I run an ex-laptop 30GB HD via USB which is mounted as /personthingy and is 
used as personthingys home. /home/everyone_else is on internal HD. I've 
bounced between most major distros with this idea, and it works perfectly.

The only disadvantage to this is that i have to make sure nothing else that 
would be treated as hard storage , such as my camera, is plugged in when i 
boot up the computer.

 
 On Wednesday 07 November 2007 12:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi
 
 I am looking to purchase an external hard drive to keep family videos on 
(these 
 things fill my personal hard drive and I have no backups). 
 
 My main system is Ubuntu Linux. These things seem to have UBS2 or Firewire 
 interfaces. Is there anything I need to be aware of or look out for when 
 purchasing one primarily to use with Linux?
 
 Any experiences?
 
 Regards
 
 Graeme Kiyoto-Ward
 03 982 6844
 

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Re: Slightly OT - Getting Telstra to admit there is a problem :(

2007-11-05 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
I've emailed your @team.telstra. address
There's a message on your answer phone too. Seems you left work by the time i 
returned from my work :(

 
 On Monday 05 November 2007 22:03, you wrote:
 Hi
 
 If you have the ticket number send that (or the account number). I'm 
 still happy to send it to the transition team, it my end up there anyway 
 but I can get it there faster. I have them lined up and they are 
 expecting to have a look.
 
 We are working to improve the service that we provide and I don't think 
 that our helpdesk should force users to ping the gateway every minute 
 for two days to prove they have a problem. I'm really keen to us this as 
 an example because this is the sort of thing we are trying to get better at.
 
 Regards
 
 Graeme Kiyoto-Ward
 
 Chris AKA personthingy wrote:
  Sorry, i did read it/them this morning, but i had to go play in the park 
  across the road all day..
 
   I'm a roadie, and we are setting up for a wee gathering under the name 
  of Southern Amp, it's using all of the AMI (Jade) stadium ground.. Should 
  be fun, it is for us :)
 
  For reference, the fault is worse now than it was, so i risked a another 19 
  minute wait to talk to the help desk, got someone a bit more helpful than i 
  got on the first call, and have a ticket number now. 
 
  The fact i logged the fault with a script that pings my gateway 
(203.97.119.1) 
  and paradise.net.nz and then reports my ability to (not)see the world meant 
i 
  could quote downtime at the help staff. This seemed to make a huge amount 
of 
  difference.. It could not be denied that the fault was real :)
 
  Unfortunately i'll be playing roadie in the park across the road all this 
  week, so we probably won't have it sorted till sometime next. 
 
  I pity the poor people who use the chatroom hosted from my house!
 
 
 
   
   On Monday 05 November 2007 16:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi 
   
   I have sent a couple of responses to 'personthingylinux-list-
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]'. I work for TelstraClear and I have one of the 
people 
  on 
   our transmission team who will look into this. 
   
   I need some contact details so that we can identify your connection. If 
you 
   call me on 03 982 6844 or e-mail me at work 
   ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and provide your phone and 
  account 
   number we will get the problem looked at.
   
   I will also raise this with the Contact Centre to make sure these types of 
   calls are better managed in future.
   
   Regards
   
   Graeme Kiyoto-Ward
   03 982 6844
   
   Quoting Michael Fincham [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
Don Gould wrote:
 NZNOG is the place to go to find someone more helpful.
 

NZNOG isn't really the right place for customers to complain... you're 
likely to be flamed to a small crisp if you try ;)

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Mobile: 027 666 4482
 
   
   
 

 

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Re: Slightly OT - Getting Telstra to admit there is a problem :(

2007-11-04 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
Sorry, i did read it/them this morning, but i had to go play in the park 
across the road all day..

 I'm a roadie, and we are setting up for a wee gathering under the name 
of Southern Amp, it's using all of the AMI (Jade) stadium ground.. Should 
be fun, it is for us :)

For reference, the fault is worse now than it was, so i risked a another 19 
minute wait to talk to the help desk, got someone a bit more helpful than i 
got on the first call, and have a ticket number now. 

The fact i logged the fault with a script that pings my gateway (203.97.119.1) 
and paradise.net.nz and then reports my ability to (not)see the world meant i 
could quote downtime at the help staff. This seemed to make a huge amount of 
difference.. It could not be denied that the fault was real :)

Unfortunately i'll be playing roadie in the park across the road all this 
week, so we probably won't have it sorted till sometime next. 

I pity the poor people who use the chatroom hosted from my house!



 
 On Monday 05 November 2007 16:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi 
 
 I have sent a couple of responses to 'personthingylinux-list-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]'. I work for TelstraClear and I have one of the people 
on 
 our transmission team who will look into this. 
 
 I need some contact details so that we can identify your connection. If you 
 call me on 03 982 6844 or e-mail me at work 
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and provide your phone and 
account 
 number we will get the problem looked at.
 
 I will also raise this with the Contact Centre to make sure these types of 
 calls are better managed in future.
 
 Regards
 
 Graeme Kiyoto-Ward
 03 982 6844
 
 Quoting Michael Fincham [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Don Gould wrote:
   NZNOG is the place to go to find someone more helpful.
   
  
  NZNOG isn't really the right place for customers to complain... you're 
  likely to be flamed to a small crisp if you try ;)
  
  -- 
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  Unleash Technology Solutions
  www.unleash.co.nz
  Phone: 0800 750 250
  Mobile: 027 666 4482
   
 
 

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Free to good home, well any home.

2007-11-04 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
I have 3 boxes of Linux Journal and the like, and a desire to enjoy a long 
forgotten luxury commonly known as free floor space.

Any takers? Come and get them, or they are fire starter!


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Re: Free to good home, well any home.

2007-11-04 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
Sold to the man who put his hand up...

I'll contact you off list so you can take them away ASAP
Thank you for giving me half a square metre of floor space!

 
 On Monday 05 November 2007 18:26, Don Gould wrote:
 I'll put my hand up.
 
 Cheers Don
 
 Chris AKA personthingy wrote:
  I have 3 boxes of Linux Journal and the like, and a desire to enjoy a long 
  forgotten luxury commonly known as free floor space.
  
  Any takers? Come and get them, or they are fire starter!
  
  
 
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 2/59 Peverel Street, Riccarton, Christchurch, New Zealand
 Phone: +64 3 348 7235 - Mobile: +64 21 114 0699
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Re: Small / low power Linux device/PC

2007-11-04 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
I'm interested... i have a need to have a 12volt recreational computer set up 
soon...
Something to do with gypsy life and a large housetruck.
I don't want to be mains dependant for a Debian-etch box.

 
 On Monday 05 November 2007 19:34, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
 I can dig up details if you're interested.
 Sold by various outlets in NZ.
 
 Soekris will work too and has probably a lower power consumption, but
 it's pretty special, uncommon, expensive, and not sold in NZ.
 
 Volker

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Re: Slightly OT - Getting Telstra to admit there is a problem :(

2007-11-03 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
I dought if traceroute would help too much.
when it's dead it's dead :(
However, i'll suggest this to the person who helps administer meinserver. I 
couldn't script my way out of a paper bag myself

 
 On Saturday 03 November 2007 20:50, Don Gould wrote:
 IMHO you need to change your script to do a traceroute when you get a 
 fail so that the location of the fault can be seen.
 
 NZNOG is the place to go to find someone more helpful.
 
 But really, you need to log a fault ticket with the helpdesk first and 
 then ask for it to be esculated past level one.  You need to ask to 
 speak to the team leader.
 
 HTH
 
 Cheers Don
 


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Re: Slightly OT - Getting Telstra to admit there is a problem :(

2007-11-03 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
We are now pinging my gateway (203.97.119.1) AND paradise.net.nz every minute, 
and logging simply OK and FAIL it will be interesting to see what that 
shows after a few more FAIL blocks have been logged, something to check in 
the morning.

Your idea has helped. See later entries in log file :)
http://www.something.net.nz/img/server/pinglog

 
 On Saturday 03 November 2007 20:50, Don Gould wrote:
 IMHO you need to change your script to do a traceroute when you get a 
 fail so that the location of the fault can be seen.
 

 

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Re: Slightly OT - Getting Telstra to admit there is a problem :(

2007-11-03 Thread Chris AKA personthingy

Signal to Noise Ratio   39 dB
Power Level 3 dBmV  The Downstream Power Level reading is a snapshot taken 
at 
the time this page was requested. Please Reload/Refresh this Page for a new 
reading 


UpstreamValue
Channel ID  1

Power Level 31 dBmV

I'll contact you off-list about moving files about..

 
 On Sunday 04 November 2007 12:58, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
 It's interesting to note that even though I use the same gateway, I
 have not noticed dropouts like you have. That doesn't mean that they
 don't happen for me, just that I havn't noticed them, but if I was
 losing the connection with the same frequency that you seem to be, I
 suspect that either my son or I would have done so.
 
 Have you looked at the signal report page as presented by the Cable Modem?
 
 http://192.168.100.1/RgSignal.asp
 
 I get these valies:-
 Signal To Noise Ratio:  39.0 dB
Power Level:4.9 dBmV
 
 btw, seeing that you are on the same class C net, I'd be very
 interested to discover both the bandwidth offered at the local level
 and whether T/C charge for the traffic.
 Care to do an experiment some time?
 Anybody else on the same class C net?
 A comparison might well be very instructive!
 
 
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Slightly OT - Getting Telstra to admit there is a problem :(

2007-11-02 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
Seems cable modem land isn't what it used to be with help-desk suggesting that 
as i only have 13 cable modem reboots in my history, that there isn't any 
real connectivity issue, and failing to see why regular drops in connectivity 
might be a problem, or that they might happen without cable modem reboots 
being done to fix the issue.

We're running a script that pings paradise.net.nz every minute, and reports 
the result as either OK or FAIL on a log that can be viewed here.
http://www.something.net.nz/img/server/pinglog 
Of course the concept of a log that showed without question the exact times of 
the otherwise denied faults went down like a cup of cold stuff with the 
help-desk person who really seemed to just want me to go away..

So as i'm sure i'm not alone with this dropout, i feel it would be good to get 
telstras more capable techs to see that there is a problem, or better still, 
actually fix it (whatever it is)

Any ideas who to hassle?

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Re: Fixed wiring with stranded core cable

2007-10-30 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
I'm hoping that the question referred to data wiring, not power

I always use ready made flexible cables cause it's cheaper on the scale of 
wiring my own house. I just buy once twice the required length, cut them in 
half, and the key bit, relevant to the question is that i twist them at the 
end so there is no stray bits as i push them into the sockets as if a solid 
wire I don't see the extra twist needed as a big drama over the less 
flexible stuff i'm told is normally used.



 
 On Wednesday 31 October 2007 08:13, Robert Fisher wrote:
 On Wednesday 31 October 2007 8:00 am, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
  Does anyone have experience with using stranded core cable for fixed
  wiring? It would be easier to pull through the walls and corners, but
  all the sockets and patch panel etc equipment would be made for solid
  core cables. If I am careful pushing the wires into the sockets, will it
  work reliably? Anything in particular to watch out for?
 
 The only solid core cable is 1.0 square mm (used for lighting circuits).
 
 Above that size and you have 1.5 mm which is 3 strand and then most sizes 
 above that are 7 strand.
 
 Do you mean flex?
 
 Legally you cannot use flex for fixed wiring other than from a permanent 
 connection unit to a fixed appliance.
 
 I am an ageing electrician (not practicing) so I could be corrected.
 Yuri?
 
 Rob
 

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Re: PCLinuxOS - a few comments - I forgot to mention.........

2007-10-23 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
That was supposed to be offlist, but never mind
:)
ipaq may be i386, but it is still a POS, hence the slugs name
It really shouldn't IMHO be used as anything other than a fileserver.



 
 On Wednesday 24 October 2007 10:38, Chevhq Car wrote:
 Uhm,
 I started in the days of CPM, and rememeber when the IpAq was the
 latest and greatest.
 Does that qualify me for a walking stick?
 Actually I began before CPM to be clinically acurate
 However the Ipaq is still a i386 architecture (or was it a 286?)
 
 cheers Chris T
 
 = = = Original message = = =
 
 I forgot to mention.
 The machine i am running came at the right price. It was rescued from being
 recycled, and with minor shame i will admit that it is an Ipaq by Compaq. If
 you can remember when they came out you can wave your walking stick about,
 complain about the youth of today, and apply for a pension shortly. :)
 
 The fact that it runs at all with the full GUI of a system built for modern
 machines with some grunt is miraculous, so the fact that bleeding edge
 PClinuxOS tends to make it fall over is not that shocking really.
 
 
 
 
 
  On Saturday 20 October 2007 13:44, you wrote:
  Hi, I am replying off list.
 
  Could I ask please, what you meant by unstable?
  I am seeking knowledge here, as unstable can mean different things to
  different people?
 
  regards Chris T
  = = = Original message = = =
 
  I found PCLinuxOS swish, all the bells and whistles were there BUT as it was
  unstable on my POS, i went back to Debian - Etch.
 
  I'm so conservative :)
 
  
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Re: PCLinuxOS - a few comments

2007-10-19 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
I found PCLinuxOS swish, all the bells and whistles were there BUT as it was 
unstable on my POS, i went back to Debian - Etch.

I'm so conservative :)

 
 
 = = = Original message = = =
 
 Hi Cluggers,
 
 For a few months I have been using PCLinuxOS.
 I did something to stuff up Gentoo so I grabbed a computer magazine
 from the supermarket and installed whatever distro featured on the
 cover disk - which happened to be PCLinuxOS.
 
 Impressions:
 Overall good.
 All codecs where there right at the start, without having to add
 repositories and manually apt-get/emerge/urpmi them.
 KDE default - my preferred desktop (although there's nothing wrong
 with gnome if that's what works for you).
 I read somewhere that it's RPM based, but uses Synaptic as the package 
manager.
 Synaptic seems to work okay. Meets my needs. Can't compare with other
 distros coz I haven't kept up with the latest trends.
 
 So this distro meets all my needs for now. Nice and easy. I'd
 recommend it to anyone wanting to give Linux a go.
 
 Yuri
 
 
 
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Re: What's up with the list mail server?

2007-10-12 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
I've been getting severely delayed emails from the last 2 or so days. I'm with 
paradise, but that's irrelevant as my email picked up directly from it's 
host, register-direct (net24 in disguise)




Re: sandboxes

2007-10-09 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
Bet this lad going to graduate to a firm Debian user :p

 
 On Wednesday 10 October 2007 16:52, Steve Holdoway wrote:
 I applaud your [Aidan Gauland's] paranoia, it makes a welcome change from 
the 'must have the newest and shiniest NOW!' brigade (:
 
 


What does it take to make my Debian-etch system aware of the change in daylight savings?

2007-09-30 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
What does it take to make my Debian-etch system aware of the change in 
daylight savings? I've updated, upgraded, and still my clock is firmly of the 
belief that it is NZST. Even changing the hour manually has proved futile, as 
the system fixes this error every boot up. 

Is there a file somewhere to edit that effectively says knock the clock 
forward an hour between x-day and y-day if your using kiwi-land time?


Re: What does it take to make my Debian-etch system aware of the change in daylight savings?

2007-09-30 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
Yip, it is.

Pacific/Auckland doesn't seem to fix the daylight savings issues though.

I'll give the link a decent read when i get back from the mornings 
work.
Hopefully that sorts it.
:)

~~~ 
 On Monday 01 October 2007 07:17, Steve Holdoway wrote:
 On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:06:38 +1200
 Chris AKA personthingy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  What does it take to make my Debian-etch system aware of the change in
  daylight savings? I've updated, upgraded, and still my clock is firmly of 
the
  belief that it is NZST. Even changing the hour manually has proved futile, 
as
  the system fixes this error every boot up.
 
  Is there a file somewhere to edit that effectively says knock the clock
  forward an hour between x-day and y-day if your using kiwi-land time?
 
 http://www.geekzone.co.nz/barf/3483
 
 make sure /etc/timezone contains
 
 Pacific/Auckland
 
 Steve
 


Re: What does it take to make my Debian-etch system aware of the change in daylight savings?

2007-09-30 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
That was too easy
:)
Thanks for that. I must say i feel better about adding to or altering my 
system deliberately with CHOSEN non-stable add ons, than adding volatile to 
my repository list, and risking it with every upgrade.


 
 On Monday 01 October 2007 09:03, paul schulz wrote:
 sudo dpkg -i tzdata_2007f-3ubuntu1_all.deb


Re: Social engineering phone support.

2007-09-04 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
Sad but true, and as far as i can tell, it's the best option! :-/

 
 On Tuesday 04 September 2007 18:22, yuri wrote:
 So you're buying phone and internet from a cable TV company :-)
 
 On 04/09/07, Chris AKA personthingy wrote:
  This may be true, but doesn't explain why telecom phones, and ihug (dish
  pointing at the hill) pushed me towards Telstra so many years ago for a
  combined service.
 
  IIRC, i ended up with more for about half the price..
 
  
   On Monday 03 September 2007 22:29, Don Gould wrote:
   You buy wine from a beer company and what do you expect you'll get?
   You buy beer from a wine company and what do you expect you'll get?
   You try to by internet from a telephone company... (we know what you got).
   You by internet from an internet company and you'll get internet.
 


Re: Social engineering phone support.

2007-09-03 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
This may be true, but doesn't explain why telecom phones, and ihug (dish 
pointing at the hill) pushed me towards Telstra so many years ago for a 
combined service.

IIRC, i ended up with more for about half the price..

 
 On Monday 03 September 2007 22:29, Don Gould wrote:
 You buy wine from a beer company and what do you expect you'll get?
 You buy beer from a wine company and what do you expect you'll get?
 You try to by internet from a telephone company... (we know what you got).
 You by internet from an internet company and you'll get internet.
 
 With respect to 'phone support', if you've got a good ISP then you don't 
 need good support do you?
 
 I just about never call Orcon
 

 


Re: annoying sound

2007-07-17 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
I have to wonder what you where listening to music with? 

If it were amarok, i suspect you wouldn't have had that problem, allthough of 
course amarok is a resourse hog in it's own right, but it does give prioriy 
to keeping the music tidy and unbroken, even at the cost of corretly 
displaying what you are listeng to, should you be critically low on 
resourses.


 
 On Tue, 17 Jul 2007, Zane Gilmore wrote:
 I went to listen to my (legal) music just now and discovered that there a
 sound recurring in a reasonably random way.
 It sounds like a dripping tap and it happens at a random interval between 
approx 1 second to about 
 10 seconds.
 This makes listening to music impossible.
 
 Can anyone think of a way of tracking down it's source?
 
 Cheers,
 Zane
 
 
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Re: new recipient address?

2007-06-21 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
I think i'd be less confused if i saw an unexpected vogon constructor fleet.

Quite simply, i look at the script below and think, What The Photon is that?

I'm a computer user, not a programmer.

If you don't mind i'll hang the basic rule, and do what almost always works 
for me, that being filtering on to in this case.

Out of KMails filter options, to seemed to be the most consistent in this 
case, apart from when things got tweaked/upgraded recently, but even so, that 
was just 10(?) messages that flew into my inbox out of several thousand, so 
i'll consider that a good enough strike rate not to write off to filtering 
yet.

For the record, i usually filter on from and drop frequent emailers messages 
into designated folders, leaving the inbox for messages that are unexpected, 
BCC addressed, or one offs. 

I only use to in this case, because it's a list that has ever varying 
senders and subjects, but has (had) a 100% constant recipient.
:)

 
 On Thursday 21 June 2007 22:20, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
  Is this a permanent change, and do i therefore need to change my filter 
  settings or no?
 
 My procmail filter coped just fine. The basic rule is: *never* filter on
 To:, simply because it doesn't work. If your filter is intelligent and
 examines both to: and cc: when the sender uses cc: to you, you're lucky,
 but it'll never work if the sender uses bcc:.
 
 Here's my procmail snippet:
 
 #  CLUG
 :0
 * ^Comments: University of Canterbury Linux Users
 * 1^0 ^TOlinux-users@(|(it|its|cantva|csc).)canterbury.ac.nz
 * 1^0 ^List-Subscribe: 
*mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * -0^0 .
 {
   # PLONKers
   #:0 
   #* ^From:.* [...]
   #/dev/null
 
   # save what's left
   :0:
   $THISLISTS/Linux-users-Chch-List
 }
 
 Oops so I am filtering on to:, but it's an alternative. The only other 
headers
 one can filter on are comment: and list-subscribe:. Before someone
 points out that there is list-unsubscribe: too, that's not going to be
 any more stable than list-subscribe.
 
 Volker
 
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new recipient address?

2007-06-20 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
Hey what gives?
 the recipient address has changed from
linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
to
Recipients removed: ;

Has some-one done some tweaking?

Is this a permanent change, and do i therefore need to change my filter 
settings or no?


Re: Out of network ports - what to do?

2007-06-15 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
Why not just run 2 to each room close to the switch, and 1 to each room that 
the cable lengths outweigh the cost of another switch?

I have a 55 metre length from my main switch to the sleepout where my son has 
his branch of the network. He has his own switch out there. This is much 
cheaper then running a second cable, and also uses but one hole in the the 
main switch. 

I expect to do the same should anyone require to run more than one machine in 
my lounge (20 metre run) or the other sleepout (30 metre partly underground 
run)

Perhaps this approach will reduce costs, and free up a hole or 2 on the main 
switch for you?



 



Re: feisty sounds

2007-06-07 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
I have a similar issue with POS running etch, however i decided that it wasn't 
a bug, but a feature, as it means that if i browse the web while running 
amarok, i don't get talking emoticon adds and other annoyances interrupting 
the desired sound.

I was going to fix it, but have decided that it is better off broken

Interestingly etch is the only distro i have used so far that has produced 
this issue.

I'd like to know if there was a way to switch on the media player sound, and 
more importantly switch off everything else at whim.

 
 On Friday 08 June 2007 08:27, Roger Searle wrote:
 Sounds are partially working on this feisty install.  Amarok goes great 
 so at least I know that I have codecs for mp3 files and that the onboard 
 sound is working in some way. 
 
 I have installed via automatix all the available multimedia codecs, 
 mplayer and firefox plugins, and non-free audio and dvd codecs. 
 
 Yet any random youtube video has no sound, nor do I hear anything if I 
 go to system settings  sound system and click the test sound button, 
 where I have tried either ALSA or auto detect as the audio device. 
 
 Any tips on how to properly test and resolve this would be appreciated.
 
 Cheers,
 Roger
 
 


Re: feisty sounds

2007-06-07 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
 POS is what i call my machine.
I hope no explanation is needed.

 
 On Friday 08 June 2007 11:03, Chris AKA personthingy wrote:
 I have a similar issue with POS running etch, however i decided that it 
wasn't...


Re: unsubscribe

2007-05-27 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
Perhaps one or two lines could be put on the group emails, something along the 
lines of :

Unsubscription and other info here: 
http://volker.dnsalias.net/linux/lists-nz.html


  
 On Sunday 27 May 2007 21:12, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
 On Sun 27 May 2007 21:04:41 NZST +1200, Christopher D Maher wrote:
 
  I agree people who fail to read clear instructions are nothing but useless!
 
 Clear instructions are here:
 
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Re: unsubscribe

2007-05-27 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
Actually... good point

 
 On Monday 28 May 2007 11:34, Nick Rout wrote:
 
 PS I am not in favour of email list programs adding footers to every
 message. Unless people religiously trim their replies, it soon degenerates
 into miles of repeated footer, all saying the same thing. Thats a reason
 its in the headers.
 
 
 
 


Re: unsubscribe

2007-05-26 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
It amazes me the amount of people here that:

A. Bother to read the headers on the list emails.

and/or

B. Expect everyone else to read the headers on the list emails!

  _^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_^_

Having the instructions in the headers is a bit like having the instructions 
for operating the car CD player written on a plate beside the engine, just so 
that mechanics can muse them selves at the stupid clients who don't know how 
to turn the back speakers off. 
The instructions are clearly available in a locked filing cabinet in a disused 
lavatory in the cellar of the display department where the lights and stairs 
have both gone.

:)

~
On Sunday 27 May 2007 14:00, Phill Coxon wrote:
 It's in the headers for every email sent to the list. 
 
 Send an email to: 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 with unsubscribe linux-users in the message body. 
 
 


Re: Southern Institute of Technology--non-MS alternatives for coursework?

2007-05-17 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
NZ entire education system provides qualifications
These are there so people can look, and see that a person is qualified, and 
therefore can assume, with varying inaccuracy, that the qualified person has 
some idea what they are doing.

So if using front-page provides qualification, then so be it.
 From qualification, we can gain a foot in the door, and from that we can gain 
qualified experience, and then forget about front-page and the likes.

5 years ago, dream-weaver shat all over front page, and all though i have lost 
touch, i suspect that there are now many web design standard apps that are 
fat far better than FP... They just fail to be Microsoft approved.

:(


Re: M$ FUD or Patent Armageddon Now?

2007-05-14 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
Perhaps not on the verge of financial failure, but they haven't released a 
product that people generally like for a few years now, and aren't blind to 
the fact that being little more than a cunning marketing machine is not 
enough to keep them with the market share they once enjoyed...

It seems some bloody bastards are cutting into the not quite as safe M$ 
market, and cutting in rapidly

A reaction to threat is obvious.
Microsoft aren't hiding their fear well.



On Monday 14 May 2007 19:36, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
 On Mon 14 May 2007 19:01:55 NZST +1200, Wesley Parish wrote:
 
  Microsoft is putting itself in precisely the same position The SCO Group 
put 
  itself in in 2003 - broad allegations without specificity.  And of course, 
The 
  SCO Group did what it did partially because it was on the point of 
financial 
  collapse.
 
 Are you hinting M$$$ is on the point of financial collapse?
 Well, dreams are free... :)
 
 Volker
 
 -- 
 Volker Kuhlmannis list0570 with the domain in header
 http://volker.dnsalias.net/Please do not CC list postings to me.
 


Re: M$ FUD or Patent Armageddon Now?

2007-05-13 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
Sounds to me like someone is starting to get nervious.
:)

~~~
On Monday 14 May 2007 15:32, Carl Cerecke wrote:
 On 14/05/07, lyndon sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm only surprised it has taken MS this long to actually foist a law
  suit.
 
 It's taken them a while to build up a big enough patent portfolio/warchest.
 Like the internet, they were a bit late to the software patent game.
 
 Cheers,
 Carl.
 


Re: OT: Telstra usage meter

2007-05-10 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
http://pressf1.pcworld.co.nz/showthread.php?p=550229#post550229
It appears to be happening all over the place, all though my meter is fine




On Thursday 10 May 2007 23:16, Aaron Christensen wrote:
 You have now used 3,706 additional block[s] of usage, on your TelstraClear
 HighSpeed Internet plan for the period to 16/05/2007.
 
 Additional usage blocks are charged at $2.95 per block of 2,048 megabytes,
 regardless of the number of megabytes you use from that block.
 
 Thats $10,932.70.. heart almost stopped when I saw this.
 
 Cheers
 


Re: OT: Telstra usage meter

2007-05-10 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
I'll amend that- It appears it took me 13 hours to use 11 grands worth of 
data...
unless... surely not, unless the meter is wrong?

~~
High Speed Service: HighSpeed Service x
Account number: 

You have now used 3,532 additional block[s] of usage, on your TelstraClear 
HighSpeed Internet plan for the period to 10/06/2007.

Additional usage blocks are charged at $2.95 per block of 2,048 megabytes, 
regardless of the number of megabytes you use from that block.

We will endeavour to send you another reminder email if you use additional 
usage blocks.

Regards

TelstraClear Internet Services Team


~
On Friday 11 May 2007 08:03, Chris AKA personthingy wrote:
 http://pressf1.pcworld.co.nz/showthread.php?p=550229#post550229
 It appears to be happening all over the place, all though my meter is 
fine
 
 
 
 
 On Thursday 10 May 2007 23:16, Aaron Christensen wrote:
  You have now used 3,706 additional block[s] of usage, on your TelstraClear
  HighSpeed Internet plan for the period to 16/05/2007.
  
  Additional usage blocks are charged at $2.95 per block of 2,048 megabytes,
  regardless of the number of megabytes you use from that block.
  
  Thats $10,932.70.. heart almost stopped when I saw this.
  
  Cheers
  
 


Re: Clug poster in Coma

2007-05-09 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
Sheesh...
 I got an email from him a few weeks ago when i accidentally 
left www.millerton.co.nz on my signiture, he was asking if i was 
 www.millerton.co.nz, and if so informing me that he lives a couple of 
houses down from me (it)..

I still haven't figured out exactly where a couple of houses down from me 
actually is, but it just brings home what a small world it is...
I also sometimes have work for the owner of the Edgeware Road house.
Shrinking bloody planet!
 I'd rather have small world syndrome bought home in more positive ways than 
hearing about people in a coma




On Thursday 10 May 2007 09:59, Carl Cerecke wrote:
 I just read in the paper that Ben Devine, a clug-list poster is in a
 coma at Chch hospital. He was one of those hit by the car at the party
 in edgeware road on Saturday night.
 
 http://www.stuff.co.nz/4054073a11.html
 
 Hoping he recovers fully,
 Carl.
 


Re: OT: online photo storage sites

2007-05-09 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
Is this for private use, or public access?

Either way, a myspace account allows the storage, and online display of 300ish 
photos, which can be organised into folders
IIRC you have the choice of 100% private, friends only or public
Maybe this will meet your needs?


~~
On Thursday 10 May 2007 10:50, Kerry Mayes wrote:
 Does anyone know of an online photo storage site that would allow an
 upload of 300 pics at once?  i have used photobucket in a limited way,
 but to upload in bulk you have to use their special browser i.e. not
 linux based (ooh, back on topic!)
 
 I have these photos I took at a recent family wedding and would like
 the rest of the family to have access to see if they want me to send
 them some full size versions.
 
 I used gThumb to rename and resize them all to something a little
 larger than thumb nails and am ready to go!
 
 Kerry.
 


Re: disk partitioning and format scheme

2007-05-09 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
Not always
 My server would not boot it 250Gb HDD, but by altering the HDDs jumpers, the 
machine could be fooled into thinking that it was a 32Gb disk, and would then 
boot up, where upon the unseen reality's like the final 200GB+ /home 
partition could be used by etch. 
 A separate /boot partition was essential in fooling the machine that the HDD 
i chose was well within its BIOS support. Or so i'm told by the clever 
bastard that set it up for me.

~~
On Thursday 10 May 2007 12:19, Nick Rout wrote:
 A separate /boot is a moot point, probably not necessary


Re: SimplyMEPIS

2007-05-09 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
If you can't got one from someone closer, i could burn you a copy
What version would you like?
i have 3.4.3 and 6 plus 3 CDs of extras for simplymepis6 sitting on HDD
Happy to swap you for blank CDs.

I live near Jade Stadium tho. This might be a little far from you.

On Thursday 10 May 2007 14:18, david merriman wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Could I please obtain a copy of the latest SimplyMEPIS from somebody ?  
 I've read good things about it here and elsewhere, and thought I might 
 give it a go.  I work in Riccarton (near Mandeville St), and live in 
 Parklands (Mairehau Rd).
 
 Thanks in advance,
 David Merriman
 -- 
 Before you criticise someone, walk a mile in their shoes.  That way, 
 when you criticise them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
 


Re: Gnome keyring question

2007-05-06 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
If it becomes essential to type your user password with such frequency as many 
fanatics would have it, it also becomes easier to slip a fake log in screens 
in front of people, as logging in yet again becomes something done with 
progressively more annoyance and less question or caution.

Wait.. that's already done. Hence why phishing sites have as high a success 
rate as they do.

One user login process enabling everything that user normally does within a 
given session within the users usual network seems much more secure to me 
than having to log in for the upteenth time just to connect to the office 
coffee machine.

One assumes logging into the network is a normal part of the days start up 
procedure?
:)


On Monday 07 May 2007 09:00, Jonathan Bell wrote:

 b) if he does it every time _anyway_ then it's a usability
 issue rather than a security issue
 
 I authenticate myself on my workstation when I get to work.
 If I had to type in my password to connect to the
 network then the network shares... then the coffee
 machine... I'd get a little annoyed.


Re: Hello and.....

2007-05-02 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
Actually, you get a desktop that works (usually) with Debian etch as well.

My personal machine (POS) is the only machine i know of which proved the 
exception, although that was while etch was still deemed an unstable 
release. Etch worked, but lived up to it's development status.
 Am awaiting my next allocation of bandwidth before trying the current STABLE 
etch release.

 Granted one has to install etch before trying it, which is slightly less 
exciting than booting of o CD and trying the distro live frist, and THEN 
clicking install.


but anyways, new users get a working desktop, with most if not all of the 
things they may want, and either synaptic or the dead easy 
apt-get install whatever
 command will help a new user try new stuff with ease when/if they so choose. 

Lets face it, installing from the debian repository's is far easier than say, 
installing legitimate programs on windows box from the CD! (although slightly 
harder than installing windows viri)

Nothing new here of course, other than Dells use of Ubuntu, suggesting that 
Linux will be an option for future mainstream users in the very near future.

I have had an old friend of mine, an intelligent woman who works editing video 
and so forth use my mepis-laptop a couple of years ago to check email and the 
likes, and NOT REALIZE IT WAS A LINUX SYSTEM, till i asked her what she 
thought of it. She was under the shared misconception that *nix was 
exclusively mystic command line stuff.

 We've come a long way since then.

~

On Thursday 03 May 2007 09:35, Nick Rout wrote:
 
 On Thu, May 3, 2007 9:14 am, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
  On Thu 03 May 2007 08:51:32 NZST +1200, Campbell McKenzie wrote:
 
  Mepis and Ubunutu are great for new users because if they want new
  software
  they can use Synaptic (aka apt-get)
 
  New users means they'd want a desktop. You want to put Linux on the
  desktop with apt-get? Perhaps next Millennium. Until then you'd have to
  come up with something better, i.e. graphical, to break the Linux is
  only for geeks association.
 
 Well frankly this is crap. synaptic is a user friendly front end to
 apt-get, just as yast tries to be a user friendly front end to rpm. With
 ubuntu, or mepis (both apt based) you get a desktop that works. Its a
 fact, live with it.
 
 -- 
 Nick Rout
 
 
 


Re: Hello and.....

2007-05-02 Thread Chris AKA personthingy

Ey? How can it be simpler than doing a search for a program, and/or reading 
the descriptions, and then hitting install?

Come on... even i can do it!


~~
On Thursday 03 May 2007 10:55, lyndon sutherland wrote:
 Synaptic  might be a little bit much (read too complex) 


Re: Hello and.....

2007-05-02 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
Is that really a hurdle?

When my sons mother complained at me that all the games she proudly found on 
the net to amuse ziggy wouldn't install on my stupid Linux laptop, i was 
more than a little relieved at my laptops stupidity!


On Thursday 03 May 2007 11:03, Jim Cheetham wrote:
 On 03/05/07, Chris AKA personthingy
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ey? How can it be simpler than doing a search for a program, and/or reading
  the descriptions, and then hitting install?
 
  Come on... even i can do it!
 
 Just training people out of the habit of surfing to a random website
 and downloading the exe file will be a big hurdle.
 


Re: Hello and.....

2007-05-02 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
Or how about my friend who allowed me to set up her machine as a windows/mepis 
dual boot a year or 2 ago, and whose kids just can't break Mepis 3.4, 
or Linux as she calls it, however the windows side of her machine is a 
write off, something to do with the ease of installing new programs , viri, 
and stuff...

Funny thing is she now like the linux side more, just because it turned out to 
be family proof, where as the other operating system.
 It quite simply meets her needs, which are mainly watching/listening to 
media, trademe, and Gmail...



On Thursday 03 May 2007 13:40, Jonathan Bell wrote:
 You want simple users?


Re: Hello and.....

2007-05-02 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
There's a reason for that.

Apt-get grabs software from a repository, eg: 
http://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/ 
and the standard repository's are said to be safe where as the .debs 
you see around the place are somewhat more experimental, probably not as 
deadly as installing randomly found .exes on doze, but have the same 
potential to be something other than what they seem.

Anyway... here's your apt packages, or the nearest you'll get to it.
:)



~~
On Thursday 03 May 2007 15:32, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
 And I haven't seen an apt package yet, but there are plenty of .debs around.


Re: Hello and.....

2007-05-01 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
Yip
 I'm a great fan of Mepis...

 perfect for someone who is used to windows and terrified of anything new
:)

Etch has been desktop ready for a while now me thinks.. and Mepis is 
debian-etch based

~

On Wednesday 02 May 2007 16:30, Campbell McKenzie wrote:
 HI Everyone
 
 Just a quick message to say Hello! I am a long time lurker of the CLUG and
 WLUG. Currently running a multitude of OS's mainly Mepis 6.5 RC3 and Puppy
 2.15CE.
 
 I'm loving the current Vista gossip and the fact that Linux might hit the
 desktop tops soon!
 
  
 
 Has anyone considered teaching Windows users transitioning to Linux to use
 Mepis? It uses KDE (easy transition for Windows Users) Hardware recognition
 is through the roof, Very easy to set up (its already set up), Great support
 forums and is Based on Ubuntu LTS www.mepis.org http://www.mepis.org/ 
 
  
 
 Hopefully will meet some of you soon at a meeting or two. Look forward to
 your replies!
 
  
 
 Thanks cAm
 
  
 
 Campbell McKenzie
 ICT Broker
 NZGlobal Consulting
 PO Box 19770
 Woolston 
 Christchurch 8241 
 T:  03 977 9619
 F:  03 977 9617
 M: 021 2255 025
 0800 NZGlobal
 W: www.nzglobal.com
 
  
 
 


Re: software install on suse~~~ was~~~Re: OT: telstra clear is pinging me repeatedly.

2007-04-26 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
So how does one install whois using suse 10.2?

On Thursday 26 April 2007 18:25, Steve Holdoway wrote:
 On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:07:44 +1200
 Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ apt-get whois install
  bash: apt-get: command not found
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~
  
 
 As I pointed out earlier, that wouldn't work even if you had installed apt ( 
and personthingy would need to be superuser ). Just because SuSE is different 
isn't a reason to dismiss it. You'd do well to keep an opener mind. You'll 
not I'm keeping my personal feelings out of this conversation!
 
 Steve
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-get whois install
 E: Invalid operation whois
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# 
 
 


Re: software install on suse~~~ was~~~Re: OT: telstra clear is pinging me repeatedly.

2007-04-26 Thread Chris AKA personthingy
Um... Ok, i assume you mean the computer tab on the start menu thing?

There's no install option, and entering whois on the search bar i do see 
lets me find a variety of things, including the email i am replying to here, 
but no install option.

It occurs to me this may be because i have removed the CDrom, and the option 
to install software from CD.

I'm shutting down and putting a CDrom in before i myself disappear of the the 
humble grind of hoping to be paid one of these years :)
~

On Friday 27 April 2007 08:53, Steve Holdoway wrote:
 OK, now I'm at work, and have booted up a vanilla SuSE 10.2 install.
 
 computer-install software
 type in whois into the search box at the top of the gui, amd click 'Install'
 
 The necessary resources are on the install dvd
 
 Steve
 
 On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:34:38 +1200
 Chris AKA personthingy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  So how does one install whois using suse 10.2?
  
  On Thursday 26 April 2007 18:25, Steve Holdoway wrote:
   On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:07:44 +1200
   Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ apt-get whois install
bash: apt-get: command not found
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~

   
   As I pointed out earlier, that wouldn't work even if you had installed apt 
( 
  and personthingy would need to be superuser ). Just because SuSE is 
different 
  isn't a reason to dismiss it. You'd do well to keep an opener mind. You'll 
  not I'm keeping my personal feelings out of this conversation!
   
   Steve
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-get whois install
   E: Invalid operation whois
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#