Re: It seems there is no end to greed!
IIRC, about 90% live within 100km of the border. David Aikema - Original Message - From: Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, December 20, 2002 4:12 pm Subject: Re: It seems there is no end to greed! Are most Canadians within about an hour's drive of the US border? Joel On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 09:57:55AM -0800, David Aikema wrote: On December 20, 2002 08:49 am, Ted Ozolins wrote: I'm about a 15 minute drive from the Canada/US border. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Cups help?
Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've got two systems running CUPS and I'm having trouble getting them to share a printer. Print server: RH7.3, printer is on parallel:/dev/lp0, called HPLJ4M, configured as HP LaserJet 4M, Foomatic + Postscript (because that's what it is). It works fine. CUPS: RedHat RPM, v 1.1.14 NICs: eth0) DSL connection eth1) internal LAN, 192.168.x.146 I think I have CUPS listening on both NICs, port 631 (ipp, right?). The CUPS log files confirm this. Print client: COL 3.1.1 WS. I have tried configuring in several ways, most recently as ipp://192.168.x.146:631/ipp/HPLJ4M, and notice that this URI is changed by replacing ipp: with http: in the admin display, although my input is the default the next time through 'modify'. It is reported as busy... CUPS: Caldera RPM, v 1.1.10-3 NICS: eth0) internal LAN, 192.168.x.150 Problem: I cannot find a configuration on the client that seems to connect to the server. I see nothing in the logs about attempts, but I may not know where to look. The client usually reports Printer is busy; will retry in 10 seconds. The printer is idle, and I see no print jobs on the server. Anybody with a clue? ++ kevin I run Slackware 8.1 on all my machines here. Setting up printing on the server was neet and simple, but setting up the client gave me all sorts of problems I hadn't encountered on previous setups. Finally I decided to give Webmin a shot and setup printing on the client machines . In the printer que (in your case) use HPLJ4M and your ip (192.168.X.X) of the server and of course a name for the printer. Give that a try and see what that does for you. -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Powered by Slackware 8.1, sent with Mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: APM vs ACPI
If you're going to do that you'll need to get ACPID and set it up in place of APMD. Otherwise ACPI isn't going to do much for you. There may also be kernel patches involved. ACPI has been under very heavy development as it is one of the subsystems being enhanced in 2.5.x. http://acpid.sourceforge.net/ Seemed like a good place to start, though it's a bit thin on documentation. On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 00:03:49 -0500 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you! So I should choose ACPI when I build a kernel since my board supports it and disable APM. On Fri, 2002-12-20 at 23:14, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: What is the difference in APM vs ACPI for power management? Are they two exclusive methods of controling shutdown, etc. or is ACPI an advanced version of APM? When I build a kernel can I specify both or do I choose one? Well, here is the difference between the two (At least as I understand it): APM is a a BIOS-based scheme of system power management. It provides CPU and device power management and uses device activity timeouts to determine when to transition devices to low power states. However, APM falls short: 1.) Every BIOS has its own power management scheme. There is no consistancy between manufacturers. Each BIOS developer must refine and maintain their own APM BIOS code and functionality. 2.) The reason for a suspend is never known. 3.) The BIOS is unaware what the user is doing. Ultimately, the BIOS makes a mess of everything. 4.) The BIOS knows nothing about USB devices, add-in cards and IEEE 1394 devices. ACPI was developed to overcome the deficiencies in APM. ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) is an open industry specification. ACPI evolves the existing collection of power management BIOS code, Advanced Power Management (APM) application programming interfaces (APIs, PNPBIOS APIs, Multiprocessor Specification (MPS) tables and so on into a well-defined power management and configuration interface specification. The specification enables new power management technology to evolve independently in operating systems and hardware while ensuring that they continue to work together. Unlike APM, ACPI allows the Operating System (instead of the BIOS) to control Power Management (OSPM). The support code provided by the BIOS is not written in the native assembly language of the platform but in AML (ACPI Machine Language). The BIOS does not determine the policies or time-outs for power management or resource management. There are 4 device states under APM: Enabled, Standby, Suspend and Off. ACPI's device states are extended, with 4 major global states: Working (S0), Sleeping (S1-S3), Soft-Off (S4), and Mechanical-Off (S5). Sleeping is further broken down into 3 substates.The ACPI BIOS tables define what these states mean for individual devices, and the operating system determines when to move a device, or even the entire system, from one state to another. The ACPI-compatible OS mainly acts as a swap manager that swap the computer to different state based on the information collected. A transition from one state to another is first started with the OSPM system code which instructs the OS kernel for the specific state transition. After the kernel receives the instruction, it asks the appropriate device driver to perform the operation. Response from the operation will be passed back to the OSPM from the kernel. This process will proceed in hierarchical order until all devices and components reach a specified state. There is more, but the above info is probably enough... Best Peck -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: APM vs ACPI
Feigning erudition, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: % Thank you! So I should choose ACPI when I build a kernel since my board % supports it and disable APM. Actually, if you compile in both, the kernel will use ACPI by default and disable APM, otherwise it will use APM. You can have both at the same time, but the kernel handles that for you. See Documentation/apm.txt in the kernel source tree for some more information. [good stuff elided] Kurt -- Lunatic Asylum, n.: The place where optimism most flourishes. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Cups help?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On the COL box, you should use: http://localhost:631/ In manage printers, if you don't see the printer on your RH box already, you need to do one of two things: on both systems, check /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to make sure there are no restrictions from other systems connecting to you (the comments should be self-explanatory). ensure you're running compatible versions of the software (I suggest you install the latest version on each) On all my systems, the clients just have the server's printer there automagically. CUPS handles all that by itself for systems on the local network (running tcpdump you'll see port 631 actively broadcasting every few seconds). On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 21:56:56 -0800 (PST) begin Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth: I've got two systems running CUPS and I'm having trouble getting them to share a printer. Print server: RH7.3, printer is on parallel:/dev/lp0, called HPLJ4M, configured as HP LaserJet 4M, Foomatic + Postscript (because that's what it is). It works fine. CUPS: RedHat RPM, v 1.1.14 NICs: eth0) DSL connection eth1) internal LAN, 192.168.x.146 I think I have CUPS listening on both NICs, port 631 (ipp, right?). The CUPS log files confirm this. Print client: COL 3.1.1 WS. I have tried configuring in several ways, most recently as ipp://192.168.x.146:631/ipp/HPLJ4M, and notice that this URI is changed by replacing ipp: with http: in the admin display, although my input is the default the next time through 'modify'. It is reported as busy... CUPS: Caldera RPM, v 1.1.10-3 NICS: eth0) internal LAN, 192.168.x.150 Problem: I cannot find a configuration on the client that seems to connect to the server. I see nothing in the logs about attempts, but I may not know where to look. The client usually reports Printer is busy; will retry in 10 seconds. The printer is idle, and I see no print jobs on the server. Ciao, David A. Bandel - -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+BFmB3uVcotqGMQcRAhcVAKDHSxrGfk1RewqI/8eSs6xuYiBFJQCghabC Fp7ShAcKVGPIvUbdWZfY8Tk= =z8Zf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Knoppix: Any caveats?
Knoppix worked as advertised. A really nice piece of work. Everyone should own one of these. This would be a great way to try out new, upgraded linux thingees like KDE 3 and the like, before actually going through the work of installing them. I hope the Knoppix people keep this up! Joel On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 09:24:44PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: I am downloading Knoppix right now and will try to burn it and run it am Morgan, or some such (pardon my German). It seems very straight forward from the web site. Are there any gotcha's of which I should be aware? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
[patch] ext3 deadlock fix
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 My recent fix for the ext3 data=journal umount data loss problem has a bug. The filesystem can deadlock if someone runs `mount -o remount' while the filesystem is under load. Everything which writes to that filesystem gets stuck in `D' state. This is because: a) ext3_sync_fs() has to wait until a transaction has finished. b) a transaction cannot finish when someone else holds lock_super(). Because lock_super() is used in the block allocator. The patch ensures that -sync_fs is never run under lock_super(). Documentation/filesystems/Locking |2 ++ fs/buffer.c |2 +- 2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) - --- 24/Documentation/filesystems/Locking~sync_fs-fix Sun Dec 15 11:12:48 2002 +++ 24-akpm/Documentation/filesystems/Locking Sun Dec 15 11:16:15 2002 @@ -93,6 +93,7 @@ prototypes: void (*delete_inode) (struct inode *); void (*put_super) (struct super_block *); void (*write_super) (struct super_block *); + int (*sync_fs) (struct super_block *); int (*statfs) (struct super_block *, struct statfs *); int (*remount_fs) (struct super_block *, int *, char *); void (*clear_inode) (struct inode *); @@ -108,6 +109,7 @@ delete_inode: no clear_inode: no put_super: yes yes maybe (see below) write_super: yes yes maybe (see below) +write_super: yes no maybe (see below) statfs:yes no no remount_fs:yes yes maybe (see below) umount_begin: yes no maybe (see below) - --- 24/fs/buffer.c~sync_fs-fixSun Dec 15 11:12:48 2002 +++ 24-akpm/fs/buffer.c Sun Dec 15 11:13:13 2002 @@ -327,9 +327,9 @@ int fsync_super(struct super_block *sb) lock_super(sb); if (sb-s_dirt sb-s_op sb-s_op-write_super) sb-s_op-write_super(sb); + unlock_super(sb); if (sb-s_op sb-s_op-sync_fs) sb-s_op-sync_fs(sb); - - unlock_super(sb); unlock_kernel(); return sync_buffers(dev, 1); _ - - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line unsubscribe linux-kernel in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+BITwSrrWWknCnMIRAskrAJ43YhwQAr53QtJdifthH6/ThvjGnQCdEkC0 mm4nNc+6/A6h1zNkRBX9ZHI= =CBvJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: APM vs ACPI
Feigning erudition, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: % Okay, I see now. Thank you (I don't have much erudition on this subject % G). % % Feigning erudition, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: % % Thank you! So I should choose ACPI when I build a kernel since my board % % supports it and disable APM. % % Actually, if you compile in both, the kernel will use ACPI by default % and disable APM, otherwise it will use APM. You can have both at the % same time, but the kernel handles that for you. See Documentation/apm.txt % in the kernel source tree for some more information. Err, I meant You can have both compiled in at the same time, but you can't *use* both at the same time... Kurt -- Broad-mindedness, n.: The result of flattening high-mindedness out. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: killing viruses in kmail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony Alfrey spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: Hi. I use kmail. Periodically I get things that look like some nasty html-based script that is some sort of Windowsy virus. I can usually tell what they are by the title of the mail or by the name of the sender even before I click on the message. So my objective is to delete them without opening them. if that's your objective, why not kill them when sendmail gets the email to begin with? http://www.linux-sxs.org/sendmail_antispam.html will tell you how to get sendmail running with an anti-virus product inserted in the milter process - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org # Basic IBM dingbats, some of which will never have a purpose clear # to mankind 2.4.0 linux/drivers/char/cp437.uni -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+BI9+SrrWWknCnMIRAqEKAKCztzcwuyFDy8/S2/SWpeKDLCQBRQCeM2y7 yyeyO4JFbh7QMvpYZ56ndNc= =qScY -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: APM vs ACPI
Thank you! I'll save this and check this out. I assume we put these on the LILO command line? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Feigning erudition, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Good discussion on this topic.. I'd like to add that during some of my testing on UnitedLinux 1.0 w/2.4.19 kernel, which has acpi enabled, we found all kinds of wierdness going on from NIC's that weren't recognized or couldn't ping out on the lan to SCSI issues where the kernel couldn't initialize the hardware on the SCSI chain. SuSE told us to us ACPI=OFF or ACPI=OLDBOOT..These boot options did fix the problem. Seems that the ACPI stuff in the 2.4.19 kernel is a little whacky.. So you'll want 2 things, the newest kernel, and its related ACPI patches, and a machine with a sufficiently new BIOS.. For example, if the BIOS rev date isn't 2000 or later the kernel wont even start the ACPI stuff... Good luck! Jim -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: APM vs ACPI
Right! Feigning erudition, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: % Okay, I see now. Thank you (I don't have much erudition on this subject % G). % % Feigning erudition, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: % % Thank you! So I should choose ACPI when I build a kernel since my board % % supports it and disable APM. % % Actually, if you compile in both, the kernel will use ACPI by default % and disable APM, otherwise it will use APM. You can have both at the % same time, but the kernel handles that for you. See Documentation/apm.txt % in the kernel source tree for some more information. Err, I meant You can have both compiled in at the same time, but you can't *use* both at the same time... Kurt -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
wget: A good download manager?
Just a question for my own information. wget in info wget claims to be a good download manager. That is to say, it can restart the download if the connection is lost. Does someone have experience who can verify this? And, if you have experience with wget, do you have any experiences with wget which might be useful to share with someone just starting to use it? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: APM vs ACPI
In my opinion, the best thing about acpi, at least from the standpoint of an AMD user is the ability to throttle the speed of the processor in real time (Using autospeedstep http://gpsdrive.kraftvoll.at/speedstep.shtml ). Best Peck ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: wget: A good download manager?
Yes wget can resume failed downloads. I don't know that i'd call wget a download manager. If you're looking for a good download manager, i'd recommend a GUI known as Downloader for X. Check freshmeat. On 12/21/02 08:03, Joel Hammer wrote: Just a question for my own information. wget in info wget claims to be a good download manager. That is to say, it can restart the download if the connection is lost. Does someone have experience who can verify this? And, if you have experience with wget, do you have any experiences with wget which might be useful to share with someone just starting to use it? -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 9:55am up 6 days, 17:05, 2 users, load average: 0.91, 0.61, 0.46 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Updated Step
Doug Hunley has just updated http://www.linux-sxs.org/openssl.html to incorporate the following: Updated to fix the assumed path to perl interpreter ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
printing problem
I have an HP iii printer attached to my system which is running caldera 2.4.2. Printing works, but often when printing from a linux app, a la OpenOffice, I select the US LETTER paper size, hit print and the OnLine light goes off, requiring me to hit the Continue button, which then motivates the printer to spit out the page. Often when I first open OpenOffice and create a new document, the default page size is A4. I wish I could make OO default instead to US Letter. Any suggestions on these questions? Scott ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: printing problem
On Saturday 21 December 2002 13:31 pm, Bonez wrote: I have an HP iii printer attached to my system which is running caldera 2.4.2. Printing works, but often when printing from a linux app, a la OpenOffice, I select the US LETTER paper size, hit print and the OnLine light goes off, requiring me to hit the Continue button, which then motivates the printer to spit out the page. Often when I first open OpenOffice and create a new document, the default page size is A4. I wish I could make OO default instead to US Letter. Any suggestions on these questions? Scott Have you gone into spadmin and set the paper characteristics for the default printer? ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 12/21/02 14:04 + ++ The value of knowledge lies not in its accumulation, but in its utilization. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Updated Step
Doug Hunley has just updated http://www.linux-sxs.org/sendm2.html to incorporate the following: kill the damn help file by using site.config.m4 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Xfree CVS and Qt issues...
Anyone here playing with the Xfree CVS sources? I've got version 4.2.99.2 dated december 17. I've got it here, compiles no problems and it runs very fast... The only hitch I have is compiling QT. During make, the compile terminates with complaints of parsing problems... Xft.h. I've been to both the QT and Xfree mailing lists and it seems there's been a code change in the Xft portion of the Xfree CVS tree and it kills compiling any version of QT. I'm not clear why there has to be an Xft2... but I read that it's progress right? I've found a hacked way of getting QT to compile, but I was wondering if anyone has found an elegant way of doing it. What I do is compile xfree from CVS and install it. I then delete the files in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft and replace them with copies from xfree version 4.2.0. I then grab /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.1.0 and overlay it in the target system. I then symlink /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so to /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.1.0 All this does is backlevel Xft in the CVS code to the ones distributed in 4.2.0. Once done, QT any version will compile without problems. One small question before I go... is there a definitive list of options that explains what's available for xfree compiling? I've picked up some tips from Doug Hunley and use some of them in my host.def file. But what I'm looking for is the one to turn off xinerama and whatever else may be available for getting more performance out of xfree. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net 1:17am up 28 days, 2:58, 10 users, load average: 0.89, 0.99, 1.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: killing viruses in kmail
On Saturday 21 December 2002 07:57 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony Alfrey spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: Hi. I use kmail. Periodically I get things that look like some nasty html-based script that is some sort of Windowsy virus. I can usually tell what they are by the title of the mail or by the name of the sender even before I click on the message. So my objective is to delete them without opening them. if that's your objective, why not kill them when sendmail gets the email to begin with? http://www.linux-sxs.org/sendmail_antispam.html will tell you how to get sendmail running with an anti-virus product inserted in the milter process Thanks. I will check this out. -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd Rather Be Sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: (no subject)
Hello to you too. Care to introduce yourself? On 12/21/02 12:06, Skynet wrote: hi -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 1:00pm up 6 days, 20:10, 2 users, load average: 0.05, 0.13, 0.26 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Xfree CVS and Qt issues...
On 12/21/02 11:27, Jerry McBride wrote: Anyone here playing with the Xfree CVS sources? I've got version 4.2.99.2 dated december 17. I've got it here, compiles no problems and it runs very fast... Fast compared to what? -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 12:55pm up 6 days, 20:05, 2 users, load average: 0.10, 0.13, 0.32 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: wget: A good download manager?
Konqueror also can resume failed downloads. R -- http://www.quen.net Fix reason firmly in her seat and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there is one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear. --Thomas Jefferson ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Xfree CVS and Qt issues...
On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:59:55 -0800 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/21/02 11:27, Jerry McBride wrote: Anyone here playing with the Xfree CVS sources? I've got version 4.2.99.2 dated december 17. I've got it here, compiles no problems and it runs very fast... Fast compared to what? Compared to 4.2.0. Currently, glxgears reports 749/149. This is on an old 500mhz k6-2 and a matrox g200. Previously compiled 4.2.0 ran about 75% of that. In my book it's much faster. I can't wait for 4.3.0 to turn up and get this QT/Xft2 thingy behind us. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net 4:53pm up 28 days, 18:34, 10 users, load average: 0.90, 1.14, 1.07 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB
I went out and bought a digital camera, Nikon Coolpix 2500. They didn't have a card reader at BestBuy. The camera is designed to hook up to a USB port. Does anyone know if there is a linux app that supports this camera? Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB
off subject of your topic.. Do you like the camera..(I dont care if I have to use windows for it) Just want to find a good digital camera taht takes fair pictures in low light. Bill Day Linux 2.2.20-1tr i586 8:09am up 17 days, 23:11, 0 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 We're still up at irc.openprojects.net @ #linux-users or irc.freenode.net @ #linux-users http://counter.li.org #83358 http://sxs.daysdomain.com/ - Original Message - From: Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 4:00 PM Subject: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB I went out and bought a digital camera, Nikon Coolpix 2500. They didn't have a card reader at BestBuy. The camera is designed to hook up to a USB port. Does anyone know if there is a linux app that supports this camera? Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/6/02 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB
Joel Hammer wrote: I went out and bought a digital camera, Nikon Coolpix 2500. They didn't have a card reader at BestBuy. The camera is designed to hook up to a USB port. Does anyone know if there is a linux app that supports this camera? Joel gphoto2 supports some nikons, but I don't see yours there. Do you know if it is a usb mass storage device? Try this. In a terminal as root type: tail -f /var/log/messages Then hook up the camera to the usb port, and turn it on. See what message result. It may give you some clue as to a device. If not, as root in a different xterm, try mkdir /mnt/camera then mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera This *might* work. See what messages result. The following applies to my fuji 3800. cd /mnt/camera shows a directory structure where my pictures are located, so I cd /mnt/camera/*/* and there are the pictures. I use the following script to transfer them to my hard drive. (the images directory is in my home directory) #!/bin/sh echo Please enter a directory name for the pictures. read DIRPATH mkdir ~/images/$DIRPATH echo Mounting camera... mount /mnt/camera echo Camera contents: ls /mnt/camera/dcim/100_fuji/ echo Copying... cp /mnt/camera/dcim/100_fuji/*.* ~/images/$DIRPATH echo Unmounting camera... umount /mnt/camera chown -R ken ~/images/$DIRPATH echo ~/images/$DIRPATH contents: ls ~/images/$DIRPATH echo Open $DIRPATH in gqview? y/n read answer if [ $answer = y ] || [ $answer = yes ] then gqview ~/images/$DIRPATH exit 0 fi exit 0 -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB
On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 17:00:12 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went out and bought a digital camera, Nikon Coolpix 2500. They didn't have a card reader at BestBuy. The camera is designed to hook up to a USB port. Does anyone know if there is a linux app that supports this camera? Uhhh... Since it's usb and a memory storage device... you can probably plug it in via the usb port on your computer, load the appropriate usb drivers, and then mount it as a scsi vfat device. Once done, I run XV to view the pictures and gimp to play with them... Here's what I use to load the correct usb, fs modules and ends with a mount: modprobe usbcore modprobe usb-uhci modprobe usb-storage modprobe fat modprobe vfat echo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera Don't forget to umount the device when done with it. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net 5:29pm up 28 days, 19:10, 12 users, load average: 0.69, 0.97, 0.99 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 05:16:47PM -0600, Bill Day wrote: Don't know yet if I like it. I am still charging the battery before first use! Consumers Report gave it a top recommendation in the 2 meg pixel class. And, it was one of the cheaper ones. Since this is my first digital camera, I wasn't going to go spend big $$. Joel On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 05:16:47PM -0600, Bill Day wrote: off subject of your topic.. Do you like the camera..(I dont care if I have to use windows for it) Just want to find a good digital camera taht takes fair pictures in low light. Bill Day Linux 2.2.20-1tr i586 8:09am up 17 days, 23:11, 0 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 We're still up at irc.openprojects.net @ #linux-users or irc.freenode.net @ #linux-users http://counter.li.org #83358 http://sxs.daysdomain.com/ - Original Message - From: Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 4:00 PM Subject: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB I went out and bought a digital camera, Nikon Coolpix 2500. They didn't have a card reader at BestBuy. The camera is designed to hook up to a USB port. Does anyone know if there is a linux app that supports this camera? Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/6/02 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users off subject of your topic.. Do you like the camera..(I dont care if I have to use windows for it) Just want to find a good digital camera taht takes fair pictures in low light. Bill Day Linux 2.2.20-1tr i586 8:09am up 17 days, 23:11, 0 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 We're still up at irc.openprojects.net @ #linux-users or irc.freenode.net @ #linux-users http://counter.li.org #83358 http://sxs.daysdomain.com/ - Original Message - From: Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 4:00 PM Subject: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB I went out and bought a digital camera, Nikon Coolpix 2500. They didn't have a card reader at BestBuy. The camera is designed to hook up to a USB port. Does anyone know if there is a linux app that supports this camera? Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/6/02 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB
Hi Joel! You can mount the camera using the USB file system that is now standard fair in all Linux distro's. I do it all the time with a Fuji FinePix as well as a Nikon CoolPix 2500 (Just like you have...). Once the camera is mounted (Should mount as /mnt/camera for security), you can use a GUI file manager to browse/move/delete images. As a matter of fact, you can do anything in the camera's memory (Which is what is mounted as a file system) that you can do in a normal file system. In a pinch, I've used my camera to move binary files between machines. Imagine. Best Peck ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB
One other thing: In the event you want a great photo printer, get an HP PhotoSmart 7350. The things are slick and work *great* in Linux (HP wrote the driver that is used in Linux) and all features are supported. The photo's that you can print are, in my opinion, excellent. Further, when just printing documents (StarOffice or whatever), the printer is as fast as sh!t through a goose. Best Peck ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB
I am using a lexmarkz53. Its driver was written by lexmark, and seems to work well. I was having a problem with getting good photo prints, though. I took a sample to BestBuy, where most weekends a guy from Lexmark is in the printer section. He's an older guy who seems to really know these printers. This is a refreshing change from the usual store clerk. Anyway, he diagnosed my problem as a bad color cartridge (made by lexmark), and I replaced it and now all if fine, so far. Joel One other thing: In the event you want a great photo printer, get an HP PhotoSmart 7350. The things are slick and work *great* in Linux (HP wrote the driver that is used in Linux) and all features are supported. The photo's that you can print are, in my opinion, excellent. Further, when just printing documents (StarOffice or whatever), the printer is as fast as sh!t through a goose. Best Peck ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: wget: A good download manager?
Feigning erudition, Joel Hammer wrote: % Just a question for my own information. % % wget in info wget claims to be a good download manager. That is to say, % it can restart the download if the connection is lost. Does someone have % experience who can verify this? Yes. wget can resume failed downloads. So can most ftp clients. It's called reget. % And, if you have experience with wget, do you have any experiences with % wget which might be useful to share with someone just starting to use it? I don't think I'd consider wget a download manager. Kurt -- If God had intended Man to Smoke, He would have set him on Fire. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB
Thanks. I followed your suggestions and they worked perfectly. Dang, this is good. I just wish I knew why sda1 works. What this means is that I can automate picture taking at work, maybe. This may be really good. Joel On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 05:34:14PM -0500, Jerry McBride wrote: On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 17:00:12 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went out and bought a digital camera, Nikon Coolpix 2500. They didn't have a card reader at BestBuy. The camera is designed to hook up to a USB port. Does anyone know if there is a linux app that supports this camera? Uhhh... Since it's usb and a memory storage device... you can probably plug it in via the usb port on your computer, load the appropriate usb drivers, and then mount it as a scsi vfat device. Once done, I run XV to view the pictures and gimp to play with them... Here's what I use to load the correct usb, fs modules and ends with a mount: modprobe usbcore modprobe usb-uhci modprobe usb-storage modprobe fat modprobe vfat echo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB
I have taken about 20 pictures in the house tonight, in fairly low light. This camera is great. If you send me your email I address, I will send a couple of examples to you. The default (maybe the highest quality, don't know yet) is a 400,000 byte jpg file. They look really nice on my monitor (fills it up). This camera seems to work fine with linux. I can upload the photos out of the camera without difficulty. IT WORKS! Joel On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 05:16:47PM -0600, Bill Day wrote: off subject of your topic.. Do you like the camera..(I dont care if I have to use windows for it) Just want to find a good digital camera taht takes fair pictures in low light. Bill Day Linux 2.2.20-1tr i586 8:09am up 17 days, 23:11, 0 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 We're still up at irc.openprojects.net @ #linux-users or irc.freenode.net @ #linux-users http://counter.li.org #83358 http://sxs.daysdomain.com/ - Original Message - From: Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 4:00 PM Subject: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB I went out and bought a digital camera, Nikon Coolpix 2500. They didn't have a card reader at BestBuy. The camera is designed to hook up to a USB port. Does anyone know if there is a linux app that supports this camera? Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.427 / Virus Database: 240 - Release Date: 12/6/02 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 07:48:42PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: I am using a lexmarkz53. Its driver was written by lexmark, and seems to work well. I was having a problem with getting good photo prints, though. I took a sample to BestBuy, where most weekends a guy from Lexmark is in the printer section. He's an older guy who seems to really know these printers. This is a refreshing change from the usual store clerk. Anyway, he diagnosed my problem as a bad color cartridge (made by lexmark), and I replaced it and now all if fine, so far. If you install the latest version of gimp-print, the drivers for the z53 are far better than those from Lexmark. I haven't been all that happy with the photo printing quality of the z53. I think there's supposed to be a photo cartridge to replace the black one for printing photographs, but I haven't been able to find anybody who carries them. I took Peck's advice and just got one of the HP photosmart printers. Tomorrow I'll take it out of its box, and try it on various Linux systems, and on an eMac running OS X 10.2 Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Good luck to all you optimists out there who think Microsoft can deliver 35 million lines of quality code on which you can operate your business.'' -- John C. Dvorak ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
bzImage and vmlinux files
While building kernels I notice that I end up with a bzImage and a vmlinux files. The bzImage I copy to /boot as a vmlinuz-x and it is specified in lilo.conf. What is the vmlinux file for? Why is it generated. Is it the uncompressed version of bzImage? -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bzImage and vmlinux files
On 12/21/02 21:16, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: While building kernels I notice that I end up with a bzImage and a vmlinux files. The bzImage I copy to /boot as a vmlinuz-x and it is specified in lilo.conf. What is the vmlinux file for? Why is it generated. Is it the uncompressed version of bzImage? Yup. -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 9:15pm up 7 days, 4:25, 2 users, load average: 0.09, 0.16, 0.40 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: bzImage and vmlinux files
Thank you! On 12/21/02 21:16, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: While building kernels I notice that I end up with a bzImage and a vmlinux files. The bzImage I copy to /boot as a vmlinuz-x and it is specified in lilo.conf. What is the vmlinux file for? Why is it generated. Is it the uncompressed version of bzImage? Yup. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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RE: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB
Bill: The cartridge your looking for is Lexmark High resolution Photo cartridge - 12A1990 it replaces the color cartridge, 12A1990 being the model number for the Z53 printer. I buy them at Best Buy here in Califronia, usa. you can order them from www.lexmark.com at http://www.lexmark.com/US/products/supplies/0,1230,MTg0NHwx,00.html hope this helps. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bill Campbell Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 6:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB I haven't been all that happy with the photo printing quality of the z53. I think there's supposed to be a photo cartridge to replace the black one for printing photographs, but I haven't been able to find anybody who carries them. I took Peck's advice and just got one of the HP photosmart printers. Tomorrow I'll take it out of its box, and try it on various Linux systems, and on an eMac running OS X 10.2 Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Good luck to all you optimists out there who think Microsoft can deliver 35 million lines of quality code on which you can operate your business.'' -- John C. Dvorak ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users