Re: It seems there is no end to greed!

2002-12-21 Thread davidaikema
IIRC, about 90% live within 100km of the border.

David Aikema

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From: Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, December 20, 2002 4:12 pm
Subject: Re: It seems there is no end to greed!

 Are most Canadians within about an hour's drive of the US border?
 
 Joel
 On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 09:57:55AM -0800, David Aikema wrote:
  On December 20, 2002 08:49 am, Ted Ozolins wrote:
  I'm about a 15 minute drive from the Canada/US border.

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Re: Cups help?

2002-12-21 Thread Ted Ozolins
Kevin O'Gorman wrote:


I've got two systems running CUPS and I'm having trouble getting
them to share a printer.

Print server:
 RH7.3, printer is on parallel:/dev/lp0, called HPLJ4M, configured
as HP LaserJet 4M, Foomatic + Postscript  (because that's what
it is).  It works fine.
 CUPS: RedHat RPM, v 1.1.14
 NICs:
eth0) DSL connection
eth1) internal LAN, 192.168.x.146
 I think I have CUPS listening on both NICs, port 631 (ipp, right?).
The CUPS log files confirm this.

Print client:
 COL 3.1.1 WS.  I have tried configuring in several ways, most
recently as ipp://192.168.x.146:631/ipp/HPLJ4M, and notice that
this URI is changed by replacing ipp: with http: in the
admin display, although my input is the default the next time
through 'modify'.  It is reported as busy...
 CUPS: Caldera RPM, v 1.1.10-3
 NICS:
eth0) internal LAN, 192.168.x.150

Problem: I cannot find a configuration on the client that seems to
connect to the server.  I see nothing in the logs about attempts,
but I may not know where to look.

The client usually reports Printer is busy; will retry in 10
seconds.  The printer is idle, and I see no print jobs on the
server.

Anybody with a clue?

++ kevin

 

I run Slackware 8.1 on all my machines here. Setting up printing on the 
server was neet and simple, but setting up the client gave me  all 
sorts of problems I hadn't encountered on previous setups.  Finally I 
decided to give Webmin a shot and setup printing on the client machines 
. In the printer que (in your case) use HPLJ4M and your ip (192.168.X.X) 
of the server and of course a name for the printer. Give that a try and 
see what that does for you.

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Re: APM vs ACPI

2002-12-21 Thread Aaron Grewell
If you're going to do that you'll need to get ACPID and set it up in place of APMD.  
Otherwise ACPI isn't going to do much for you.  There may also be kernel patches 
involved.  ACPI has been under very heavy development as it is one of the subsystems 
being enhanced in 2.5.x.

http://acpid.sourceforge.net/

Seemed like a good place to start, though it's a bit thin on documentation.


On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 00:03:49 -0500
Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thank you!  So I should choose ACPI when I build a kernel since my board 
 supports it and disable APM.
 
  On Fri, 2002-12-20 at 23:14, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
  What is the difference in APM vs ACPI for power management?  Are they two
  exclusive methods of controling shutdown, etc. or is ACPI an advanced
  version of APM?  When I build a kernel can I specify both or do I choose
  one?
  
  
  Well, here is the difference between the two (At least as I understand
  it):
  
  APM is a a BIOS-based scheme of system power management. It provides CPU
  and device power management and uses device activity timeouts to
  determine when to transition devices to low power states.
  
  However, APM falls short:
  
  1.) Every BIOS has its own power management scheme. There is no
  consistancy between manufacturers. Each BIOS developer must refine and
  maintain their own APM BIOS code and functionality.
  
  
  2.) The reason for a suspend is never known.
  
  
  3.) The BIOS is unaware what the user is doing. Ultimately, the BIOS
  makes a mess of everything.
  
  4.) The BIOS knows nothing about USB devices, add-in cards and IEEE 1394
  devices.
  
  
  ACPI was developed to overcome the deficiencies in APM. ACPI (Advanced
  Configuration and Power Interface) is an open industry specification.
  
  ACPI evolves the existing collection of power management BIOS code,
  Advanced Power Management (APM) application programming interfaces
  (APIs, PNPBIOS APIs, Multiprocessor Specification (MPS) tables and so on
  into a well-defined power management and configuration interface
  specification. The specification enables new power management technology
  to evolve independently in operating systems and hardware while ensuring
  that they continue to work together.
  
  Unlike APM, ACPI allows the Operating System (instead of the BIOS) to
  control Power Management (OSPM). The support code provided by the BIOS
  is not written in the native assembly language of the platform but in
  AML (ACPI Machine Language). The BIOS does not determine the policies or
  time-outs for power management or resource management.
  
  
  There are 4 device states under APM: Enabled, Standby, Suspend and Off.
  
  ACPI's device states are extended, with 4 major global states: Working
  (S0), Sleeping (S1-S3), Soft-Off (S4), and Mechanical-Off (S5). Sleeping
  is further broken down into 3 substates.The ACPI BIOS tables define what
  these states mean for individual devices, and the operating system
  determines when to move a device, or even the entire system, from one
  state to another.
  
  The ACPI-compatible OS mainly acts as a swap manager that swap the
  computer to different state based on the information collected. A
  transition from one state to another is first started with the OSPM
  system code which instructs the OS kernel for the specific state
  transition. After the kernel receives the instruction, it asks the
  appropriate device driver to perform the operation. Response from the
  operation will be passed back to the OSPM from the kernel. This process
  will proceed in hierarchical order until all devices and components
  reach a specified state.
  
  There is more, but the above info is probably enough...
  
  
  
  Best
  
  Peck
 
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Re: APM vs ACPI

2002-12-21 Thread kwall
Feigning erudition, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
% Thank you!  So I should choose ACPI when I build a kernel since my board 
% supports it and disable APM.

Actually, if you compile in both, the kernel will use ACPI by default
and disable APM, otherwise it will use APM. You can have both at the
same time, but the kernel handles that for you. See Documentation/apm.txt
in the kernel source tree for some more information.

[good stuff elided]

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Re: Cups help?

2002-12-21 Thread David A. Bandel
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On the COL box, you should use:
http://localhost:631/

In manage printers, if you don't see the printer on your RH box already,
you need to do one of two things:

on both systems, check /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to make sure there are no
restrictions from other systems connecting to you (the comments should be
self-explanatory).

ensure you're running compatible versions of the software (I suggest you
install the latest version on each)

On all my systems, the clients just have the server's printer there
automagically.  CUPS handles all that by itself for systems on the local
network (running tcpdump you'll see port 631 actively broadcasting every
few seconds).


On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 21:56:56 -0800 (PST)
begin  Kevin O'Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed forth:

 I've got two systems running CUPS and I'm having trouble getting
 them to share a printer.
 
 Print server:
   RH7.3, printer is on parallel:/dev/lp0, called HPLJ4M, configured
  as HP LaserJet 4M, Foomatic + Postscript  (because that's what
  it is).  It works fine.
   CUPS: RedHat RPM, v 1.1.14
   NICs:
  eth0) DSL connection
  eth1) internal LAN, 192.168.x.146
   I think I have CUPS listening on both NICs, port 631 (ipp, right?).
  The CUPS log files confirm this.
 
 Print client:
   COL 3.1.1 WS.  I have tried configuring in several ways, most
  recently as ipp://192.168.x.146:631/ipp/HPLJ4M, and notice that
  this URI is changed by replacing ipp: with http: in the
  admin display, although my input is the default the next time
  through 'modify'.  It is reported as busy...
   CUPS: Caldera RPM, v 1.1.10-3
   NICS:
  eth0) internal LAN, 192.168.x.150
 
 Problem: I cannot find a configuration on the client that seems to
 connect to the server.  I see nothing in the logs about attempts,
 but I may not know where to look.
 
 The client usually reports Printer is busy; will retry in 10
 seconds.  The printer is idle, and I see no print jobs on the
 server.

Ciao,

David A. Bandel
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Re: Knoppix: Any caveats?

2002-12-21 Thread Joel Hammer
Knoppix worked as advertised. A really nice piece of work. Everyone should
own one of these. 

This would be a great way to try out new, upgraded linux thingees like KDE 3
and the like, before actually going through the work of installing them. I
hope the Knoppix people keep this up!

Joel

On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 09:24:44PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote:
 I am downloading Knoppix right now and will try to burn it and run it am
 Morgan, or some such (pardon my German). It seems very straight forward
 from the web site.
 
 Are there any gotcha's of which I should be aware?
 
 Thanks,
 Joel
 
 
 
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[patch] ext3 deadlock fix

2002-12-21 Thread Andrew Morton
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My recent fix for the ext3 data=journal umount data loss problem
has a bug.  The filesystem can deadlock if someone runs `mount -o remount'
while the filesystem is under load.  Everything which writes to that
filesystem gets stuck in `D' state.

This is because:

a) ext3_sync_fs() has to wait until a transaction has finished.

b) a transaction cannot finish when someone else holds lock_super().
   Because lock_super() is used in the block allocator.

The patch ensures that -sync_fs is never run under lock_super().




 Documentation/filesystems/Locking |2 ++
 fs/buffer.c   |2 +-
 2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

- --- 24/Documentation/filesystems/Locking~sync_fs-fix  Sun Dec 15 11:12:48 2002
+++ 24-akpm/Documentation/filesystems/Locking   Sun Dec 15 11:16:15 2002
@@ -93,6 +93,7 @@ prototypes:
void (*delete_inode) (struct inode *);
void (*put_super) (struct super_block *);
void (*write_super) (struct super_block *);
+   int (*sync_fs) (struct super_block *);
int (*statfs) (struct super_block *, struct statfs *);
int (*remount_fs) (struct super_block *, int *, char *);
void (*clear_inode) (struct inode *);
@@ -108,6 +109,7 @@ delete_inode:   no
 clear_inode:   no
 put_super: yes yes maybe   (see below)
 write_super:   yes yes maybe   (see below)
+write_super:   yes no  maybe   (see below)
 statfs:yes no  no
 remount_fs:yes yes maybe   (see below)
 umount_begin:  yes no  maybe   (see below)
- --- 24/fs/buffer.c~sync_fs-fixSun Dec 15 11:12:48 2002
+++ 24-akpm/fs/buffer.c Sun Dec 15 11:13:13 2002
@@ -327,9 +327,9 @@ int fsync_super(struct super_block *sb)
lock_super(sb);
if (sb-s_dirt  sb-s_op  sb-s_op-write_super)
sb-s_op-write_super(sb);
+   unlock_super(sb);
if (sb-s_op  sb-s_op-sync_fs)
sb-s_op-sync_fs(sb);
- - unlock_super(sb);
unlock_kernel();

return sync_buffers(dev, 1);

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Re: APM vs ACPI

2002-12-21 Thread kwall
Feigning erudition, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
% Okay, I see now.  Thank you (I don't have much erudition on this subject 
% G).
% 
%  Feigning erudition, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
%  % Thank you!  So I should choose ACPI when I build a kernel since my board
%  % supports it and disable APM.
%  
%  Actually, if you compile in both, the kernel will use ACPI by default
%  and disable APM, otherwise it will use APM. You can have both at the
%  same time, but the kernel handles that for you. See Documentation/apm.txt
%  in the kernel source tree for some more information.

Err, I meant You can have both compiled in at the same time, but you
can't *use* both at the same time...

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Re: killing viruses in kmail

2002-12-21 Thread Douglas J Hunley
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Tony Alfrey spewed electrons into the ether that resembled:
 Hi.

 I use kmail.  Periodically I get things that look like some nasty
 html-based script that is some sort of Windowsy virus.  I can usually
 tell what they are by the title of the mail or by the name of the
 sender even before I click on the message.
 So my objective is to delete them without opening them.

if that's your objective, why not kill them when sendmail gets the email to 
begin with? http://www.linux-sxs.org/sendmail_antispam.html will tell you how 
to get sendmail running with an anti-virus product inserted in the milter 
process

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Re: APM vs ACPI

2002-12-21 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Thank you!  I'll save this and check this out.  I assume we put these on 
the LILO command line?


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Feigning erudition, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
 
 Good discussion on this topic.. I'd like to add that during some of my
 testing on UnitedLinux 1.0 w/2.4.19 kernel, which has acpi enabled, we
 found all kinds of wierdness going on from NIC's that weren't recognized
 or couldn't ping out on the lan to SCSI issues where the kernel couldn't
 initialize the hardware on the SCSI chain.
 
 SuSE told us to us ACPI=OFF or ACPI=OLDBOOT..These boot options did fix
 the problem. Seems that the ACPI stuff in the 2.4.19 kernel is a little
 whacky.. So you'll want 2 things, the newest kernel, and its related
 ACPI patches, and a machine with a sufficiently new BIOS.. For example,
 if the BIOS rev date isn't 2000 or later the kernel wont even start the
 ACPI stuff...
 
 Good luck!
 
 Jim

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Re: APM vs ACPI

2002-12-21 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Right!


 Feigning erudition, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
 % Okay, I see now.  Thank you (I don't have much erudition on this subject
 % G).
 %
 %  Feigning erudition, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
 %  % Thank you!  So I should choose ACPI when I build a kernel since my
 board %  % supports it and disable APM.
 % 
 %  Actually, if you compile in both, the kernel will use ACPI by default
 %  and disable APM, otherwise it will use APM. You can have both at the
 %  same time, but the kernel handles that for you. See
 Documentation/apm.txt %  in the kernel source tree for some more
 information.
 
 Err, I meant You can have both compiled in at the same time, but you
 can't *use* both at the same time...
 
 Kurt

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wget: A good download manager?

2002-12-21 Thread Joel Hammer
Just a question for my own information.

wget in info wget claims to be a good download manager. That is to say,
it can restart the download if the connection is lost. Does someone have
experience who can verify this?

And, if you have experience with wget, do you have any experiences with
wget which might be useful to share with someone just starting to use it?

Thanks,
Joel

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Re: APM vs ACPI

2002-12-21 Thread Marvin Dickens
In my opinion, the best thing about acpi, at least from the standpoint of an
AMD user is the ability to throttle the speed of the processor in real time
(Using autospeedstep   http://gpsdrive.kraftvoll.at/speedstep.shtml ).

Best

Peck

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Re: wget: A good download manager?

2002-12-21 Thread Net Llama!
Yes wget can resume failed downloads.  I don't know that i'd call wget a 
   download manager.  If you're looking for a good download manager, 
i'd recommend a GUI known as Downloader for X.  Check freshmeat.

On 12/21/02 08:03, Joel Hammer wrote:
Just a question for my own information.

wget in info wget claims to be a good download manager. That is to say,
it can restart the download if the connection is lost. Does someone have
experience who can verify this?

And, if you have experience with wget, do you have any experiences with
wget which might be useful to share with someone just starting to use it?


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Updated Step

2002-12-21 Thread Nobody
Doug Hunley has just updated http://www.linux-sxs.org/openssl.html to incorporate the 
following:
Updated to fix the assumed path to perl interpreter
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printing problem

2002-12-21 Thread Bonez
I have an HP iii printer attached to my system which is running caldera 
2.4.2. Printing works, but often when printing from a linux app, a la 
OpenOffice, I select the US LETTER paper size, hit print and the OnLine light 
goes off, requiring me to hit the Continue button, which then motivates the 
printer to spit out the page. 

Often when I first open OpenOffice and create a new document, the default 
page size is A4. I wish I could make OO default instead to US Letter. Any 
suggestions on these questions? 

Scott
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Re: printing problem

2002-12-21 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Saturday 21 December 2002 13:31 pm, Bonez wrote:
 I have an HP iii printer attached to my system which is running
 caldera 2.4.2. Printing works, but often when printing from a linux
 app, a la OpenOffice, I select the US LETTER paper size, hit print and
 the OnLine light goes off, requiring me to hit the Continue button,
 which then motivates the printer to spit out the page.

 Often when I first open OpenOffice and create a new document, the
 default page size is A4. I wish I could make OO default instead to US
 Letter. Any suggestions on these questions?

 Scott

Have you gone into spadmin  and set the paper characteristics for the 
default printer?




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Updated Step

2002-12-21 Thread Nobody
Doug Hunley has just updated http://www.linux-sxs.org/sendm2.html to incorporate the 
following:
kill the damn help file by using site.config.m4
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Xfree CVS and Qt issues...

2002-12-21 Thread Jerry McBride

Anyone here playing with the Xfree CVS sources? I've got version 4.2.99.2 dated
december 17.

I've got it here, compiles no problems and it runs very fast...

The only hitch I have is compiling QT. During make, the compile terminates with
complaints of parsing problems... Xft.h.

I've been to both the QT and Xfree mailing lists and it seems there's been a
code change in the Xft portion of the  Xfree CVS tree and it kills compiling any
version of QT. I'm not clear why there has to be an Xft2... but I read that it's
progress right?

I've found a hacked way of getting QT to compile, but I was wondering if anyone
has found an elegant way of doing it.

What I do is compile xfree from CVS and install it. I then delete the files in
/usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xft and replace them with copies from xfree version
4.2.0. I then grab /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.1.0 and overlay it in the target
system. I then symlink /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so to /usr/X11R6/lib/libXft.so.1.0

All this does is backlevel Xft in the CVS code to the ones distributed in 4.2.0.
Once done, QT any version will compile without problems.

One small question before I go... is there a definitive list of options that
explains what's available for xfree compiling? I've picked up some tips from
Doug Hunley and use some of them in my host.def file. But what I'm looking for
is the one to turn off xinerama and whatever else may be available for getting
more performance out of xfree.




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Re: killing viruses in kmail

2002-12-21 Thread Tony Alfrey
On Saturday 21 December 2002 07:57 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
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 Tony Alfrey spewed electrons into the ether that resembled:
  Hi.
 
  I use kmail.  Periodically I get things that look like some nasty
  html-based script that is some sort of Windowsy virus.  I can
  usually tell what they are by the title of the mail or by the name
  of the sender even before I click on the message.
  So my objective is to delete them without opening them.

 if that's your objective, why not kill them when sendmail gets the
 email to begin with? http://www.linux-sxs.org/sendmail_antispam.html
 will tell you how to get sendmail running with an anti-virus product
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Re: (no subject)

2002-12-21 Thread Net Llama!
Hello to you too.  Care to introduce yourself?

On 12/21/02 12:06, Skynet wrote:

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Re: Xfree CVS and Qt issues...

2002-12-21 Thread Net Llama!
On 12/21/02 11:27, Jerry McBride wrote:

Anyone here playing with the Xfree CVS sources? I've got version 4.2.99.2 dated
december 17.

I've got it here, compiles no problems and it runs very fast...


Fast compared to what?

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Re: wget: A good download manager?

2002-12-21 Thread R. Quenett
Konqueror also can resume failed downloads.

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Re: Xfree CVS and Qt issues...

2002-12-21 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:59:55 -0800 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 12/21/02 11:27, Jerry McBride wrote:
  Anyone here playing with the Xfree CVS sources? I've got version 4.2.99.2
  dated december 17.
  
  I've got it here, compiles no problems and it runs very fast...
 
 Fast compared to what?
 

Compared to 4.2.0. Currently, glxgears reports 749/149. This is on an old 500mhz
k6-2 and a matrox g200. Previously compiled 4.2.0 ran about 75% of that. In my
book it's much faster. I can't wait for 4.3.0 to turn up and get this QT/Xft2
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Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB

2002-12-21 Thread Joel Hammer
I went out and bought a digital camera, Nikon Coolpix 2500. They didn't have
a card reader at BestBuy. The camera is designed to hook up to a USB port.
Does anyone know if there is a linux app that supports this camera?

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Re: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB

2002-12-21 Thread Bill Day
off subject of your topic..  Do you like the camera..(I dont care if I have
to use windows for it)  Just want to find a good digital camera taht takes
fair pictures in low light.

Bill Day

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Subject: Nikon Coolpix 2500  USB


 I went out and bought a digital camera, Nikon Coolpix 2500. They didn't
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 Does anyone know if there is a linux app that supports this camera?

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Re: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB

2002-12-21 Thread Ken Moffat
Joel Hammer wrote:

I went out and bought a digital camera, Nikon Coolpix 2500. They didn't have
a card reader at BestBuy. The camera is designed to hook up to a USB port.
Does anyone know if there is a linux app that supports this camera?

Joel



gphoto2 supports some nikons, but I don't see yours there.

Do you know if it is a usb mass storage device?
Try this. In a terminal as root type:
tail -f /var/log/messages
Then hook up the camera to the usb port, and turn it on.
See what message result. It may give you some clue as to a device.

If not, as root in a different xterm, try
mkdir /mnt/camera
then
mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera
This *might* work. See what messages result.

The following applies to my fuji 3800.

cd /mnt/camera shows a directory structure where my pictures are 
located, so I cd /mnt/camera/*/*
and there are the pictures.
I use the following script to transfer them to my hard drive. (the 
images directory is in my home directory)


#!/bin/sh
echo Please enter a directory name for the pictures.
read DIRPATH
mkdir ~/images/$DIRPATH
echo Mounting camera...
mount  /mnt/camera
echo Camera contents:
ls /mnt/camera/dcim/100_fuji/
echo Copying...
cp /mnt/camera/dcim/100_fuji/*.* ~/images/$DIRPATH
echo Unmounting camera...
umount /mnt/camera
chown -R ken ~/images/$DIRPATH
echo ~/images/$DIRPATH contents:
ls ~/images/$DIRPATH
echo Open $DIRPATH in gqview? y/n
read answer
if [ $answer = y ] || [ $answer = yes ]
then
   gqview ~/images/$DIRPATH
   exit 0
fi
exit 0



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Re: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB

2002-12-21 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 17:00:12 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I went out and bought a digital camera, Nikon Coolpix 2500. They didn't have
 a card reader at BestBuy. The camera is designed to hook up to a USB port.
 Does anyone know if there is a linux app that supports this camera?
 

Uhhh...

Since it's usb and a memory storage device... you can probably plug it in via
the usb port on your computer, load the appropriate usb drivers, and then mount
it as a scsi vfat device. Once done, I run XV to view the pictures and gimp to
play with them...

Here's what I use to load the correct usb, fs modules and ends with a mount:

modprobe usbcore 
modprobe usb-uhci
modprobe usb-storage
modprobe fat
modprobe vfat
echo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera

Don't forget to umount the device when done with it.

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Re: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB

2002-12-21 Thread Joel Hammer
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 05:16:47PM -0600, Bill Day wrote:
Don't know yet if I like it. I am still charging the battery before first
use!
Consumers Report gave it a top recommendation in the 2 meg  pixel class.
And, it was one of the cheaper ones. Since this is my first digital camera,
I wasn't going to go spend big $$.

Joel

On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 05:16:47PM -0600, Bill Day wrote:
 off subject of your topic..  Do you like the camera..(I dont care if I have
 to use windows for it)  Just want to find a good digital camera taht takes
 fair pictures in low light.
 
 Bill Day
 
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 Subject: Nikon Coolpix 2500  USB
 
 
  I went out and bought a digital camera, Nikon Coolpix 2500. They didn't
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  a card reader at BestBuy. The camera is designed to hook up to a USB port.
  Does anyone know if there is a linux app that supports this camera?
 
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 fair pictures in low light.
 
 Bill Day
 
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  I went out and bought a digital camera, Nikon Coolpix 2500. They didn't
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  Does anyone know if there is a linux app that supports this camera?
 
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Re: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB

2002-12-21 Thread Marvin Dickens
Hi Joel!

You can mount the camera using the USB file system that is now standard
fair in all Linux distro's. I do it all the time with a Fuji FinePix as
well as a Nikon CoolPix 2500 (Just like you have...). Once the camera is
mounted (Should mount as /mnt/camera for security), you can use a GUI
file manager to browse/move/delete images. As a matter of fact, you can
do anything in the camera's memory (Which is what is mounted as a file
system) that you can do in a normal file system. In a pinch, I've used
my camera to move binary files between machines. Imagine.


Best

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Re: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB

2002-12-21 Thread Marvin Dickens
One other thing: In the event you want a great photo printer, get an HP
PhotoSmart 7350. The things are slick and work *great* in Linux (HP
wrote the driver that is used in Linux) and all features are supported.
The photo's that you can print are, in my opinion, excellent. Further,
when just printing documents (StarOffice or whatever), the printer is as
fast as sh!t through a goose.

Best

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Re: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB

2002-12-21 Thread Joel Hammer
I am using a lexmarkz53. Its driver was written by lexmark, and seems to work
well. I was having a problem with getting good photo prints, though. I took
a sample to BestBuy, where most weekends a guy from Lexmark is in the
printer section. He's an older guy who seems to really know these printers.
This is a refreshing change from the usual store clerk. Anyway, he
diagnosed my problem as a bad color cartridge (made by lexmark), and I
replaced it and now all if fine, so far.

Joel


 One other thing: In the event you want a great photo printer, get an HP
 PhotoSmart 7350. The things are slick and work *great* in Linux (HP
 wrote the driver that is used in Linux) and all features are supported.
 The photo's that you can print are, in my opinion, excellent. Further,
 when just printing documents (StarOffice or whatever), the printer is as
 fast as sh!t through a goose.
 
 Best
 
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Re: wget: A good download manager?

2002-12-21 Thread kwall
Feigning erudition, Joel Hammer wrote:
% Just a question for my own information.
% 
% wget in info wget claims to be a good download manager. That is to say,
% it can restart the download if the connection is lost. Does someone have
% experience who can verify this?

Yes. wget can resume failed downloads. So can most ftp clients. It's
called reget.

% And, if you have experience with wget, do you have any experiences with
% wget which might be useful to share with someone just starting to use it?

I don't think I'd consider wget a download manager.

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Re: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB

2002-12-21 Thread Joel Hammer
Thanks. I followed your suggestions and they worked perfectly. Dang, this is
good.

I just wish I knew why sda1 works. 

What this means is that I can automate picture taking at work, maybe. This
may be really good.

Joel

On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 05:34:14PM -0500, Jerry McBride wrote:
 On Sat, 21 Dec 2002 17:00:12 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I went out and bought a digital camera, Nikon Coolpix 2500. They didn't have
  a card reader at BestBuy. The camera is designed to hook up to a USB port.
  Does anyone know if there is a linux app that supports this camera?
  
 
 Uhhh...
 
 Since it's usb and a memory storage device... you can probably plug it in via
 the usb port on your computer, load the appropriate usb drivers, and then mount
 it as a scsi vfat device. Once done, I run XV to view the pictures and gimp to
 play with them...
 
 Here's what I use to load the correct usb, fs modules and ends with a mount:
 
 modprobe usbcore 
 modprobe usb-uhci
 modprobe usb-storage
 modprobe fat
 modprobe vfat
 echo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera
 
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Re: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB

2002-12-21 Thread Joel Hammer
I have taken about 20 pictures in the house tonight, in fairly low light.
This camera is great. If you send me your email I address, I will send a
couple of examples to you. The default (maybe the highest quality, don't
know yet) is a 400,000 byte jpg file. They look really nice on my monitor
(fills it up). 
This camera seems to work fine with linux. I can upload the photos out of
the camera without difficulty.
IT WORKS!

Joel



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 off subject of your topic..  Do you like the camera..(I dont care if I have
 to use windows for it)  Just want to find a good digital camera taht takes
 fair pictures in low light.
 
 Bill Day
 
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Re: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB

2002-12-21 Thread Bill Campbell
On Sat, Dec 21, 2002 at 07:48:42PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote:
I am using a lexmarkz53. Its driver was written by lexmark, and seems to work
well. I was having a problem with getting good photo prints, though. I took
a sample to BestBuy, where most weekends a guy from Lexmark is in the
printer section. He's an older guy who seems to really know these printers.
This is a refreshing change from the usual store clerk. Anyway, he
diagnosed my problem as a bad color cartridge (made by lexmark), and I
replaced it and now all if fine, so far.

If you install the latest version of gimp-print, the drivers for the z53
are far better than those from Lexmark.

I haven't been all that happy with the photo printing quality of the z53.
I think there's supposed to be a photo cartridge to replace the black one
for printing photographs, but I haven't been able to find anybody who
carries them.

I took Peck's advice and just got one of the HP photosmart printers.
Tomorrow I'll take it out of its box, and try it on various Linux systems,
and on an eMac running OS X 10.2

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bzImage and vmlinux files

2002-12-21 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
While building kernels I notice that I end up with a bzImage and a vmlinux 
files.  The bzImage I copy to /boot as a vmlinuz-x and it is specified 
in lilo.conf.  What is the vmlinux file for?  Why is it generated.  Is it 
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Re: bzImage and vmlinux files

2002-12-21 Thread Net Llama!
On 12/21/02 21:16, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:

While building kernels I notice that I end up with a bzImage and a vmlinux 
files.  The bzImage I copy to /boot as a vmlinuz-x and it is specified 
in lilo.conf.  What is the vmlinux file for?  Why is it generated.  Is it 
the uncompressed version of bzImage?

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Re: bzImage and vmlinux files

2002-12-21 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Thank you!  

 On 12/21/02 21:16, Brett I. Holcomb wrote:
 While building kernels I notice that I end up with a bzImage and a
 vmlinux
 files.  The bzImage I copy to /boot as a vmlinuz-x and it is
 specified
 in lilo.conf.  What is the vmlinux file for?  Why is it generated.  Is it
 the uncompressed version of bzImage?
 
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Updated Step

2002-12-21 Thread Nobody
Scott Henderson has just updated http://www.linux-sxs.org/spamfilter.html to 
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RE: Nikon Coolpix 2500 USB

2002-12-21 Thread Mike McKinlay
Bill:
  The cartridge your looking for is Lexmark High resolution Photo
cartridge - 12A1990 it replaces the color cartridge, 12A1990 being the
model number for the Z53 printer. I buy them at Best Buy here in Califronia,
usa. you can order them from www.lexmark.com at
http://www.lexmark.com/US/products/supplies/0,1230,MTg0NHwx,00.html
hope this helps.
Mike
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I haven't been all that happy with the photo printing quality of the z53.
I think there's supposed to be a photo cartridge to replace the black one
for printing photographs, but I haven't been able to find anybody who
carries them.

I took Peck's advice and just got one of the HP photosmart printers.
Tomorrow I'll take it out of its box, and try it on various Linux systems,
and on an eMac running OS X 10.2

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