Re: Bios upgrade under Linux?

2003-01-01 Thread Pam R
On Tuesday 31 December 2002 20:31, Ted Ozolins wrote:
 Pam R wrote:
 Hi Gurii
 
 I'm building my first linux only box and wondered how I would, if it is
  ever needed, update the bios, since updates seem to come as dos .exe
  files?
 
 Pam

 I keep a DOS boot disk that I use for my bios updates. I download and
 place the flash program and the updated BIOS on the floppy.

Simple when you know how, isn't it? Thanks to Stuart, Net  Ted for your help.

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Re: lexmark z53 printer

2003-01-01 Thread Collins
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 02:16:31 -0500
Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 One feature of this printer is that if a job arrives at it improperly
 formatted, the job just gets lost. I guess the printer just ignores
 it.
 

Thanks for all the help; enjoy your rest; Happy New Year tomorrow.

Problem solved - ghostscript was gimped up.  I emerged ghostscript
(7.05) again, and now the printer works like a champ.

Tomorrow I can get back to working with some scanned pictures.

It's really great to have a simple printing system rather than all that
CUPS crap.  I guess my opposition to bloated software is showing
through. g

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Re: lexmark z53 printer

2003-01-01 Thread Ted Ozolins
Collins wrote:


Thanks for all the help; enjoy your rest; Happy New Year tomorrow.

Problem solved - ghostscript was gimped up.  I emerged ghostscript
(7.05) again, and now the printer works like a champ.

Tomorrow I can get back to working with some scanned pictures.

It's really great to have a simple printing system rather than all that
CUPS crap.  I guess my opposition to bloated software is showing
through. g

 

Thats the beauty of linux, choices and more choices, anything from slim 
and trim to outright bloat. : )

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Re: My compile adventure

2003-01-01 Thread Bonez
Kurt:

I know a good optometrist for you. I did write 266, but left out that 
seemingly all important mhz suffix. Sorry about that. Yes, it's a pentium II 
266 processor. 

scott

On Tuesday 31 December 2002 18:44, you wrote:
 Feigning erudition, Bonez wrote:
 % No SMP box here..just a single old and slow but reliable Intel 266
 processor.

 Surely not a *286*? Linux won't run on a 286 because it doesn't have
 memory paging hardware.

 Kurt
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Re: My compile adventure

2003-01-01 Thread kwall
Feigning erudition, Bonez wrote:
% Kurt:
% 
% I know a good optometrist for you. I did write 266, but left out that 
% seemingly all important mhz suffix. Sorry about that. Yes, it's a pentium II 
% 266 processor. 

Doh! It's not an optometrist I need, just to read more slowly.

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Re: Distirbuitions

2003-01-01 Thread kwall
Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote:
% On 12/31/02 20:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
% Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote:
% 
% [distribution and window manager preferences]
% 
% % I can post screenshots of both XFCE-3.8.18  XFCE-4.x (from yesterday's
% % cvs checkout) if anyone is interested.
% 
% I'd be interested in the XFCE version 4 stuff.
% 
% Well, my box at work is running yesterday's CVS, so that will have to 
% wait til Thursday for the screenshots.  Until then, here are a bunch 
% that someone else created:
% 
% http://members.home.nl/jbhuijsmans/screenshots/

Thanks, Llama. XFCE 4 looks nice. Lately, I've been using FVWM2.

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Combination Printers and Scanners under linux

2003-01-01 Thread Joel Hammer
Are there any good combination printers and scanners which work under linux?
The printer needs to be color photo quality. The scanner would be used for
scanning color photographs.

Thanks,

Joel

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Coolpix 2500: Update

2003-01-01 Thread Joel Hammer
Just an update on this camera.

I have been using it for about a week. It takes excellent photos,
faraway and close up, and plays very nicely with linux. Red eye is
still a nuisance, however. I must be doing something wrong there. So,
if anyone is looking for a moderately priced digital camera ($280),
this is an excellent choice.

This digital stuff really opens up new ways of doing things. For example,
I take photos in a medical laboratory. We have always had a dedicated
photo stand (actually two), with very expensive lights and a table with
glass plate and backlight. Lots of expense, a nuisance to keep clean,
and wasted laboratory space. A dirty background was always a problem.

Now, with digital, we can take a picture of a specimen on a bloody
cutting board, use a flash, and hold the camera in our hands if we
want. The digital camera has a quicker shutter speed, what with the bright
flash.  Overhead ceiling lights, once a problem, are now not a problem.
With gimp it is quick and simple to replace that bloody cutting board
in the background with a nice jet black background so your specimen just
hangs there in space, beautiful. Diverticulosis never looked this good
before.

So, if you have hesitated about going digital, I think the technology has
arrived.

Joel


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Re: wget: A good download manager?

2003-01-01 Thread Douglas J Hunley
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this is how the SxS mirrors are updated. rsync kicks ass for that kind of 
thing
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Re: Coolpix 2500: Update

2003-01-01 Thread ronnie gauthier
Check the flash modes there may be a reduction flash. That is where
there are two close flashes together.

On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 10:16:23 -0500 - Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote the following
Re: Coolpix 2500: Update

Just an update on this camera.

I have been using it for about a week. It takes excellent photos,
faraway and close up, and plays very nicely with linux. Red eye is
still a nuisance, however. I must be doing something wrong there. So,
if anyone is looking for a moderately priced digital camera ($280),
this is an excellent choice.

This digital stuff really opens up new ways of doing things. For
example, I take photos in a medical laboratory. We have always had a
dedicated photo stand (actually two), with very expensive lights and a
table with glass plate and backlight. Lots of expense, a nuisance to
keep clean, and wasted laboratory space. A dirty background was always
a problem.

Now, with digital, we can take a picture of a specimen on a bloody
cutting board, use a flash, and hold the camera in our hands if we
want. The digital camera has a quicker shutter speed, what with the
bright flash.  Overhead ceiling lights, once a problem, are now not a
problem. With gimp it is quick and simple to replace that bloody
cutting board in the background with a nice jet black background so
your specimen just hangs there in space, beautiful. Diverticulosis
never looked this good before.

So, if you have hesitated about going digital, I think the technology
has arrived.

Joel


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Re: Coolpix 2500: Update

2003-01-01 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Wednesday 01 January 2003 10:59 am, ronnie gauthier wrote:
 Check the flash modes there may be a reduction flash. That is where
 there are two close flashes together.


Yes, there is a red-eye reduction mode...


 On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 10:16:23 -0500 - Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote the following
 Re: Coolpix 2500: Update

 Just an update on this camera.
 
 I have been using it for about a week. It takes excellent photos,
 faraway and close up, and plays very nicely with linux. Red eye is
 still a nuisance, however. I must be doing something wrong there. So,
 if anyone is looking for a moderately priced digital camera ($280),
 this is an excellent choice.

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Re: (no subject)

2003-01-01 Thread Tim Wunder
On Wednesday 01 January 2003 12:00 am, someone claiming to be 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Happy New Year from Pittsburgh, list!

 Kurt

Back at ya from Baltimore!
Did you create a cron job to send that message?

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Re: Gimps question: Selection lines remain visible

2003-01-01 Thread Alan Jackson
Another way to do it might be to create a transparent layer above the picture layer, 
and after making the selection and inverting it, go to that layer and do a floodfill
with the background color of your choice. I like to operate on separate layers when 
possible
to keep the original pristine.

On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 02:28:35 -0500
Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, I found a solution of sorts.
 
 The additional step I was taking was to convert the foreground from white to
 black, after making the cut. I have found that if I start with a black
 foreground, the white line is a black line and doesn't show up in my black
 background.
 Oh well,
 
 Joel
 On Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 01:54:23AM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote:
  I have an odd problem.
  
  Here is how it comes about:
  
  I use the free hand selection tool to outline an object. I invert the
  selection and hit cut. This is supposed to removed garbage from the picture
  background while keeping the object in the picture.
  
  After the cut command, I am left with the fine white line which outlines the
  object. I can erase it, but, is there a way to avoid this problem. Is this a
  feature?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Joel
  
  
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Re: Motherboards

2003-01-01 Thread Tom Wilson
On Monday 30 December 2002 10:03 pm, Jerry McBride's voice rose above 
the ones in my head and declared:

 On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 20:27:48 -0500 Tom Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  I just got a SOYO Dragon Lite and ot rocks.  VIA KT333 chipset
  though. I haven't had any problems at all with it yet.

 Tom... does that motherboard sport the 4 heatsink mounting holes for
 the processor 

Yup.

 and how is for overclocking? 

It does some overclocking but not as much as some of their other 
boards.  This is a scaled down version of the Dragon boards they make.  
So while it is perfect for my desktop needs and maybe dabbling into 
overclocking for the first time, it is perfect.  I believe the Dragon 
Plus and Dragon Ultra's are more rich in overclocking features.  

 Does it have a lot of bios options?

Yup.  Obviously not as many as the Plus or Ultras but there are a ton 
of them for it being the Lite model.  So far, I love this board.  They 
have good descriptions of features and specs on the website for the 
boards and downloadable manuals.  

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OTHappy New Year [Was Re: (no subject)]

2003-01-01 Thread kwall
Feigning erudition, Tim Wunder wrote:
% On Wednesday 01 January 2003 12:00 am, someone claiming to be 
% [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
%  Happy New Year from Pittsburgh, list!
% 
%  Kurt
% 
% Back at ya from Baltimore!
% Did you create a cron job to send that message?

I used at and forgot to add the Subject: line.

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movie editing?

2003-01-01 Thread Net Llama!
Does anyone have any experience with movie editing under Linux?  I'm not 
looking for anything industrial strength, just something that will let 
me cut frames from movies (MPEG, AVI  DIVX primarily).

I looked at a whole bunch of different packages (MainActor, Cinerella, 
AVIdemux etc) and they're either gross overkill, or very buggy.   Any 
recomendations would be gladly appreciated.

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Re: Coolpix 2500: Update

2003-01-01 Thread Collins
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 10:16:23 -0500
Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just an update on this camera.
 
 I have been using it for about a week. It takes excellent photos,
 faraway and close up, and plays very nicely with linux. 

Picture quality is rated excellent by consumer reports, but how much of
a problem is the fact that there is no viewfinder, just the display?

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Re: Distirbuitions

2003-01-01 Thread Collins
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 08:37:36 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote:
 % On 12/31/02 20:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 % Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote:
 % 
 % [distribution and window manager preferences]
 % 
 % % I can post screenshots of both XFCE-3.8.18  XFCE-4.x (from
 yesterday's% % cvs checkout) if anyone is interested.
 % 
 % I'd be interested in the XFCE version 4 stuff.
 % 
 % Well, my box at work is running yesterday's CVS, so that will have
 to % wait til Thursday for the screenshots.  Until then, here are a
 bunch % that someone else created:
 % 
 % http://members.home.nl/jbhuijsmans/screenshots/
 
 Thanks, Llama. XFCE 4 looks nice. Lately, I've been using FVWM2.
 

XFCE4 works like a champ, but ... 

The window manager does not do session management, and there's no
session manager plugin yet.  For you types who ever shutdown, that's no
big deal, but it's a bummer for me to have to restart and resize each
app everytime I startup groan

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Another gimp question

2003-01-01 Thread Collins
Now that I have my epson 1660 scanner and z53 printer working (many
thanks to Joel), I'm trying to get up to speed with the gimp.

My first project with the scanner is to crop a picture to heads only to
fit in a miniature frame.  I figured out how to select the portion of
the picture that I want and to scale down the image (approx. 14%) to fit
in the mini-frame, but the clipping is a square area, and the mini-frame
is round.

Is there a way to clip out a cricular region from an image?

From the big gimp dummy, or the big dummy gimp, depending on your
viewpoint. g
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Re: Coolpix 2500: Update

2003-01-01 Thread Joel Hammer
Just a matter of getting used to it, which take about 5 minutes! If the
picture isn't framed exactly right, who cares. That's what digital is
for. The camera is auto focus, so, if the AF symbol is green, you are
good to go. A view finder wouldn't have any function, anyway.

Watch out though. As the owner's manual clearly warns, the neck strap may
cause strangulation!

Joel


On Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 11:34:15AM -0700, Collins wrote:
 On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 10:16:23 -0500
 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Just an update on this camera.
  
  I have been using it for about a week. It takes excellent photos,
  faraway and close up, and plays very nicely with linux. 
 
 Picture quality is rated excellent by consumer reports, but how much of
 a problem is the fact that there is no viewfinder, just the display?
 
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Re: Coolpix 2500: Update

2003-01-01 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Wednesday 01 January 2003 13:34 pm, Collins wrote:
 On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 10:16:23 -0500

 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Just an update on this camera.
 
  I have been using it for about a week. It takes excellent photos,
  faraway and close up, and plays very nicely with linux.

 Picture quality is rated excellent by consumer reports, but how much
 of a problem is the fact that there is no viewfinder, just the
 display?

No problem that I've found.   Might be a problem in real low-light 
conditions where the display might not show enough.


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Re: Another gimp question

2003-01-01 Thread Joel Hammer
Next to the square selector, there is a circular selector. Next to that is
the free hand selector.

Joel

On Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 11:45:25AM -0700, Collins wrote:
 Is there a way to clip out a cricular region from an image?
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Re: Coolpix 2500: Update

2003-01-01 Thread Ted Ozolins
Collins wrote:


On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 10:16:23 -0500
Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 

Just an update on this camera.

I have been using it for about a week. It takes excellent photos,
faraway and close up, and plays very nicely with linux. 
   


Picture quality is rated excellent by consumer reports, but how much of
a problem is the fact that there is no viewfinder, just the display?

 

We use a Sony (records image on a floppy) digital camera to take 
pictures of test equipment etc to be place on the web for sale ( 
http://www.sphere.bc.ca ). I nor my boss has ever used the viewfinder 
yet. It seems a lot more convenient to hold the camera and use the 
display. What you see is pretty well what you get. I love that feature. 
Every piece of equipment that I rebuild and calibrate is photoed and 
placed on the net. Up until now I've been using a Canon T-50 35mm for 
all my personal photographic needs but in the new year I'm seriously 
considering picking up a digital cam. All that remains is to figure out 
which one :)

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Re: lexmark z53 printer

2003-01-01 Thread Collins
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 01:21:03 -0500
Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The z53Photo.sh is one I wrote myself. You won't have it. It is just
 z53.sh which uses a different configuration file, one that is
 configured for glossy photo printing.
 

Joel,

Would you have any problem with posting your Z53Photo.sh and
configuration file to the group?  I, for one, would like to try it out.

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Re: Another gimp question

2003-01-01 Thread Collins
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 13:58:46 -0500
Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Next to the square selector, there is a circular selector. Next to
 that is the free hand selector.
 

Thanks.

I'm emerging the gimp user manual now, so maybe I'll find the answers,
but ...

1.  I didn't find the way yet to set the defaults for printer selection,
but it was fairly simple to add |dps| to my printcap to get the standard
gimp print options to work.

2.  When acquiring an image via the scanner, is there a simple way to
preview the scan, select a smaller section to scan, and then do the scan
for real?  My wife will be primary user of the scanner, and she will
want this functionality which was provided by her old Win$Crap software.

3. Why the %#@! doesn't the Acquire menu option provide for the scanner
dialog?  Instead, you have to go with Xtns - Acquire Image - scanner. 
Can this be tailored?

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Re: Another gimp question

2003-01-01 Thread Ted Ozolins
Collins wrote:


Now that I have my epson 1660 scanner and z53 printer working (many
thanks to Joel), I'm trying to get up to speed with the gimp.

My first project with the scanner is to crop a picture to heads only to
fit in a miniature frame.  I figured out how to select the portion of
the picture that I want and to scale down the image (approx. 14%) to fit
in the mini-frame, but the clipping is a square area, and the mini-frame
is round.

Is there a way to clip out a cricular region from an image?


From the big gimp dummy, or the big dummy gimp, depending on your

viewpoint. g
 

I recall seeing a gimp script that does that and more. I just checked 
http://www.gimp.org/scripts.html but for some reason all the links seem 
to be dead from here.

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Re: Coolpix 2500: Update

2003-01-01 Thread Ken Moffat
Ted Ozolins wrote:


  I'm seriously considering picking up a digital cam. All that remains 
is to figure out which one :)

Don't overlook the fuji Finepix 3800, which is 3.2 megapixels, 6x 
optical zoom, has some manual features, has both an lcd and an 
electronic viewfinder, and I got for $330 on ubid.com. You might get it 
for less now mail order if you search. Battery life is excellent, my 
rechargable AA nimh (takes 4) last a long time, but you have to buy them 
and the charger. Not included. It's usb mass storage and works with 
kernel 2.4.20 (not 2.4.19, at least on libranet linux). Comes with a 
16meg dX card, and you can get 64meg cards for about $35(us) or 128 meg 
for around $60(us) on line. a 64 meg holds about 100 shots at 3.2 
normal. There is a 3.2 meg fine setting that I haven't tried yet. You 
can also step down to lower res settings all the way to 640x480. Also 
does 60second avi's with sound. I like the camera a lot, and it's pretty 
highly rated.

2 drawbacks, not too good in low light, since the viewfinder blacks out, 
and no manual focus. These are easily worked around with a laser 
pointer.  Or you can use the fixed focus (2ft to infinity) of the wide 
angle setting. Or if you must zoom the focus will fix at 6 ft if 
autofocus won't work due to low light.  

Anyway, IMHO, being no expert on digital, for the $$ it's a fine buy.


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Re: Coolpix 2500: Update

2003-01-01 Thread Joel Hammer
Could you please explain how a laser pointer helps with the autofocus?

The Coolpix 2500 also has this limitation.

Joel

On Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 11:55:58AM -0800, Ken Moffat wrote:
 Ted Ozolins wrote:
 
 2 drawbacks, not too good in low light, since the viewfinder blacks out, 
 and no manual focus. These are easily worked around with a laser 
 pointer.  Or you can use the fixed focus (2ft to infinity) of the wide 
 angle setting. Or if you must zoom the focus will fix at 6 ft if 
 autofocus won't work due to low light.  
 
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Re: Another gimp question

2003-01-01 Thread Joel Hammer
Can't help with the gimp scanner stuff.  I use xscanimage, which has the
features you mention.

Joel

 2.  When acquiring an image via the scanner, is there a simple way to
 preview the scan, select a smaller section to scan, and then do the scan
 for real?  My wife will be primary user of the scanner, and she will
 want this functionality which was provided by her old Win$Crap software.
 
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Re: lexmark z53 printer

2003-01-01 Thread Joel Hammer
No problem. I generated the configuration file with the lexmarkz53 program,
renamed it z53Photo.conf, and then edited the filter file to use that configuration 
file
only, and renamed it z53Photo.sh

First, the filter:

#!/bin/sh

DEBUG=0
PDIR=/usr/local/lexmark/z53
TMPFILE=`mktemp /tmp/lexmark.XX`

# lxgps is a little utility used to setup the
# Ghostscript parameters.  It sets two parameters
# in particular: resolution and paper size.  It
# determines what to set these to by reading the
# configuration file that is passed in.
GSPARMS=`$PDIR/lxacgsparm z53.conf`
echo $GSPARMS  parms
set  shellvalues
echo Have run this script  shellvalues
runz53 ()
{
cat  $TMPFILE
file -b $TMPFILE | grep -i postscript  /dev/null
if [ $? -eq 0 ] ; then
gs -q -dNOPAUSE $GSPARMS -sDEVICE=ppmraw -sOutputFile=- $TMPFILE | 
$PDIR/z53 --config z53Photo.conf --dotcounts
else
file -b $TMPFILE | grep -i PDF  /dev/null
if [ $? -eq 0 ] ; then
gs -q -dNOPAUSE $GSPARMS -sDEVICE=ppmraw -sOutputFile=- 
$TMPFILE | $PDIR/z53 --config z53Photo.conf --dotcounts
else
enscript -B -o - $TMPFILE | gs -q -dNOPAUSE $GSPARMS
-sDEVICE=ppmraw -sOutputFile=- - | $PDIR/z53 --output blackonly --config z53Photo.conf 
--dotcounts
fi
fi
/bin/rm -f $TMPFILE
}

 
runz53 2 /dev/null

The only change was in the --config parameter given to the lexmark provided
driver, z53.
Now, it is not obvious, but lexmarkz53, and the lxacgsparm program in
the filter above assume  /var/spool/lexmark is the directory to store the
configuration files.  (I find these things out by using locate and
strings binaryprogram | grep spool, and so on.)
So, you don't need to provide the full pathname for the configuration file
in the --config option, just the name of the file.

Here is my z53Photo.conf:
[settings]

queue=z53-outfiles
resolution=2400
blackonly=no
mediasize=letter
quality=business
paper=glossy
cartridge=black

[outfiles]

align=/usr/local/lexmark/z53/lxacalgn.out
clean=/usr/local/lexmark/z53/lxaucln.out
photoalign=/usr/local/lexmark/z53/lxacphal.out
photoclean=/usr/local/lexmark/z53/lxauphcl.out
testpage=/usr/local/lexmark/z53/lxactstc.out

[black]

a=25
b=7
c=10
d=15
e=13
f=13

[photo]

a=15
b=8
c=15
d=15

[dotcounts]

cyan=205244387
magenta=203060491
yellow=226198509
black=321406435
dilutedcyan=0
dilutedmagenta=0

[oldblack]

black=0
blackindex=0

[oldkcm]

black=0
dilutedcyan=0
dilutedmagenta=0
photoindex=0

[oldcmy]

cyan=0
magenta=0
yellow=0
colorindex=0

=End of z53Photo.conf

This editing of programs to use different configuration files is very handy.

It can also be done with binary files, with vi -b.

The only trick there is to use the exact same number of characters for the
new file name as the old file name. This is very handy. For example, for
a while my daughter ran two version of netscape, one which did and one which
did not use a proxy server. She never had to change any settings herself,
just start the right version of netscape (ie., click on the correct icon.)

Don't forget you have to add a printcap entry, with the right print filter
name, too.
Photo:\
sh:sd=/var/spool/lpd/z53Photo:mx#0:\
:lp=/dev/lp0:\
:if=/usr/local/lexmark/z53/z53Photo.sh
:mc#1
:sh:

Joel

On Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 12:21:36PM -0700, Collins wrote:
 On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 01:21:03 -0500
 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The z53Photo.sh is one I wrote myself. You won't have it. It is just
  z53.sh which uses a different configuration file, one that is
  configured for glossy photo printing.
  
 
 Joel,
 
 Would you have any problem with posting your Z53Photo.sh and
 configuration file to the group?  I, for one, would like to try it out.
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Re: Another gimp question

2003-01-01 Thread Collins
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 15:14:27 -0500
Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can't help with the gimp scanner stuff.  I use xscanimage, which has
 the features you mention.
 
 Joel
 
  2.  When acquiring an image via the scanner, is there a simple way
  to preview the scan, select a smaller section to scan, and then do
  the scan for real?  My wife will be primary user of the scanner, and
  she will want this functionality which was provided by her old
  Win$Crap software.
  

With a little experimentation, I found most of the answers.  The gimp
interface really has all that xscanimage offers (it seems), and it
works.  It just takes some getting used to.

BTW, xscanimage is gimped (no pun intended) for me - incomplete menu
(only exit) and even exit does not work (had to use xkill).


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Re: Another gimp question

2003-01-01 Thread Collins
On Wed, 01 Jan 2003 11:54:24 -0800
Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just checked  http://www.gimp.org/scripts.html but for some reason
 all the links
  seem to be dead from here.
 

Yes, a very few seem to work, but most are 404.

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Re: Distirbuitions

2003-01-01 Thread Matthew Carpenter
begin  Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Tue, 31 Dec 2002 21:53:30 -0800)

 On 12/31/02 21:33, Matthew Carpenter wrote:
  begin  Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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snip
 What kinda redhat quirks?  I've always felt that SuSE had the quirks 
 (like the rather unusual layout under /etc).
Agreed.  I used to HATE SuSE.  RedHat has had some weird challenges which
has made me sing it's praises as is required of an evangelist.  I am in
a heavily Microsoft area so I have a lot of evangelizing to do.  Little
things were just annoying, like their inability to install for me so that
the machine name that I typed in was maintained after install...  The
biggest annoyance was just how difficult it was to configure printing.  I
had a very difficult time encouraging other tech-newbies to use Red Hat
because there didn't seem to be a good way to admin the printing
subsystem.  Sure, I can create printcap files in VI, but they can't
 
  :)  I liked David Bandel's description of removing the GNU from some
  files from the debian distro.
 
 Yea, but that's window dressing, and doesn't change the fact that the 
 zealouts are still out there running the show.  Dave Bandel is by no 
 means your average linux user, so when he works his voodoo, its magic in
 
 the making.

I was talking about his comments about removing the GNU from GNU/Linux
:)

 Redhat is also LSB  FHS compliant.  Granted the last SuSE i touched was
 
 their enterprise server release, and that was still horribly perverse in
 
 its layout.  If things have changed since then, i might not feel the 
 same way.

I couldn't say.  But if UL is to survive at all I figure I'd better learn
how things are laid out.  The reason I hated it was because it was
different from COL and RH.
 
 You have to compile MPlayer with libdvdcss support in order for it to be
 
 capable of playing DVDs.  THe same is true for Xine.

I'll check it.  They wouldn't be able to ship libdvdcss, but if the
MPlayer packager cared enough, he might have compiled it with the
libraries and then just not ship them.  Xine looks for the libraries at
runtime meaning that they may or may not be there and it will load and
work.  Does that make sense.

Talk to you later.

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Re: Distirbuitions

2003-01-01 Thread Net Llama!
On 01/01/03 12:56, Matthew Carpenter wrote:

begin  Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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the machine name that I typed in was maintained after install...  The
biggest annoyance was just how difficult it was to configure printing.  I
had a very difficult time encouraging other tech-newbies to use Red Hat
because there didn't seem to be a good way to admin the printing
subsystem.  Sure, I can create printcap files in VI, but they can't


I'll admit, i haven't tested printing much recently.  My two primary 
Redhat based desktop boxes are still running the original lprng that 
came with 6.2.  That was a breeze to setup, so perhaps things have 
changed, i dunno.

You have to compile MPlayer with libdvdcss support in order for it to be

capable of playing DVDs.  THe same is true for Xine.


I'll check it.  They wouldn't be able to ship libdvdcss, but if the
MPlayer packager cared enough, he might have compiled it with the
libraries and then just not ship them.  Xine looks for the libraries at
runtime meaning that they may or may not be there and it will load and
work.  Does that make sense.


The MPlayer packager (if you mean the folks who write it) never 
provides binaries for the reasons i've elaborated on earlier.

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Re: Distirbuitions

2003-01-01 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Net Llama! wrote:

 On 01/01/03 12:56, Matthew Carpenter wrote:
 begin  Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 the machine name that I typed in was maintained after install...  The
 biggest annoyance was just how difficult it was to configure printing.  I
 had a very difficult time encouraging other tech-newbies to use Red Hat
 because there didn't seem to be a good way to admin the printing
 subsystem.  Sure, I can create printcap files in VI, but they can't
 
 I'll admit, i haven't tested printing much recently.  My two primary
 Redhat based desktop boxes are still running the original lprng that
 came with 6.2.  That was a breeze to setup, so perhaps things have
 changed, i dunno.

I installed RH 7.3 about a month ago and used cups.  It set it up and 
worked flawlessly.  I have a Lantronix printserver so I just set up the 
parameters and away it went.


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Re: lexmark z53 printer

2003-01-01 Thread Collins
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 15:45:01 -0500
Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No problem. I generated the configuration file with the lexmarkz53
 program, renamed it z53Photo.conf, and then edited the filter file to
 use that configuration file only, and renamed it z53Photo.sh
 

[ useful scripts snipped ]

Muchas gracias!   Will file away and evaluate as soon as I have the
time.  

Right now I'm setting up a userid for my wife and checking out
everything.  Since I now have the only working scanner in the house, she
will need to learn the basics of xfce navigation, gimp, mozilla, mozilla
mail or sylpheed, and OpenOffice.

Wish me luck. g

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Re: Another gimp question

2003-01-01 Thread Ken Moffat
Ted Ozolins wrote:


Collins wrote:


Now that I have my epson 1660 scanner and z53 printer working (many
thanks to Joel), I'm trying to get up to speed with the gimp.



Gimp has a File/Acquire menu item that should have an Xsane device 
dialog item that should start XSane. I have an epson 1660 that functions 
very well under Xsane from gimp. Did you edit the sane epson config file 
(/etc/sane.d/epson.conf)? I uncommented the last line and it worked 
immediately.
This is a sweet scanner.

(I have upgraded my kernel to 2.4.20, if that matters.)

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Re: Coolpix 2500: Update

2003-01-01 Thread Ken Moffat
Joel Hammer wrote:


Could you please explain how a laser pointer helps with the autofocus?

 

Just aim it at your object of focus and it gives the camera autofocus 
sensor something bright on which to focus.
Many flash units, and some digital cameras, have built in lasers to help 
in low light. My external flash for my 35mm Canon has that. Very 
effective, but somewhat slow.
My solution is just to use wide angle (always in focus, at least on the 
fuji.) and aim blindly at my subject. After the picture, you can look at 
the result immediately to see if it needs reshooting. The advantage of 
digital.

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2002 Remembrances

2003-01-01 Thread Collins

Memorable moments for me in 2002 included:

* brief (2 months) daliance with a RedHat system.  It's not as bad as I
had thought previously, and damn reliable (7.3 system).  As usual, I got
tired of RPM really fast.

* Return (probably permanently) to gentoo (1.4_rc1_rc2 system).  Still
the best for my desktop needs.  Only needed to descend into RPM hell for
one freaking package: Lexmark Z53 printer driver.  Lexmark gets kudos
for making a Linux support package, however.

* A few more brave souls have strayed onto the gentoo pathway, and the
cries of you can take your gentoo and stuff it have subsided. g

* On the cusp of the new year I slayed the CUPS dragon and put up an
lprng printing system (thanks to Joel's help)

* Also on the cusp, installed a scanner and the gimp and got it all
working (USB novice).

* Learned just today (well, that's not 2002 any more) the purpose for a
fire breathing monster cpu!  On my lowly 800Mz unit, it takes 3-5
minutes for gimp to repaint the screen with a 1200 dpi resolution image,
and that's every time you switch desktops.

* Affirmed my belief that this is still the best user group on the
planet.  Lots of good info, and all the flames you can eat! g

Here's hoping you all have a profitable, safe, and joyous new year. 

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Re: Another gimp question

2003-01-01 Thread Ken Moffat



2.  When acquiring an image via the scanner, is there a simple way to
preview the scan, select a smaller section to scan, and then do the scan
for real?  My wife will be primary user of the scanner, and she will
want this functionality which was provided by her old Win$Crap software.

   

If you use either xsane or xscanimage, you have a preview option. If you 
show the preview window, there is a preview button, and after you 
acquire the preview, you can click and drag a selection, which will end 
up being the size of your final scanned image.

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JFSes

2003-01-01 Thread Bob Hemus
I just got back a couple of days and the power came back on about an
hour ago.  You folks may have worked this out already, I have about 600
messages to go through.  There is an intersting article about IBM's
journaling file system on page 18 of January's Linux Journal.  They seem
real long on JFSes.  Like Lonnie.
Anybody else read it and come away with the same impression?

Happy New Year
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Re: Coolpix 2500: Update

2003-01-01 Thread Bill Campbell
On Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 10:16:23AM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote:
Just an update on this camera.

I have been using it for about a week. It takes excellent photos,
faraway and close up, and plays very nicely with linux. Red eye is
still a nuisance, however. I must be doing something wrong there. So,
if anyone is looking for a moderately priced digital camera ($280),
this is an excellent choice.

The most effective thing I've done with my Olympus 2020 Zoom is to buy an
external flash which can be used for bounce rather than direct flash.  This
largely eliminates red eye, and reflections of the flash itself from the
pictures.  The Olympus doesn't have a hot shoe, so it required an adapter
for the flash which connects with a separate cable to the side of the
camera.  The adapter screws into the tripod mount screw on the bottom of
the camera, and provides a handle on left side of the camera with a mount
similar to the normal hot shoe.

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Re: Coolpix 2500: Update

2003-01-01 Thread Bill Campbell
On Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 01:06:20PM -0500, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Wednesday 01 January 2003 13:34 pm, Collins wrote:
..
 Picture quality is rated excellent by consumer reports, but how much
 of a problem is the fact that there is no viewfinder, just the
 display?

No problem that I've found.   Might be a problem in real low-light 
conditions where the display might not show enough.

The biggest problem I've found isn't low light, but bright light outdoors
which made the display basically unreadable.  I wanted a hood similar to
that used on old plate film cameras.

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Re: 2002 Remembrances

2003-01-01 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Wednesday 01 January 2003 17:09 pm, Collins wrote:
 Memorable moments for me in 2002 included:

 * brief (2 months) daliance with a RedHat system.  It's not as bad as
 I had thought previously, and damn reliable (7.3 system).  As usual, I
 got tired of RPM really fast.


I never could get a warm feeling with RH.  Probably never will.


 * Return (probably permanently) to gentoo (1.4_rc1_rc2 system).  Still
 the best for my desktop needs.  Only needed to descend into RPM hell
 for one freaking package: Lexmark Z53 printer driver.  Lexmark gets
 kudos for making a Linux support package, however.


Whatever works for you is what is best.

 * A few more brave souls have strayed onto the gentoo pathway, and the
 cries of you can take your gentoo and stuff it have subsided. g


But we're still out here waiting for you to step over that 'Gentoo is the 
world's best fill in the blank line'  again...  g



 * On the cusp of the new year I slayed the CUPS dragon and put up an
 lprng printing system (thanks to Joel's help)


More power to you... and I agree here.  But I intend to give CUPs a try 
in the future to see what it's all about.


 * Also on the cusp, installed a scanner and the gimp and got it all
 working (USB novice).


Me too but it seems to be getting more solid.

 * Learned just today (well, that's not 2002 any more) the purpose for
 a fire breathing monster cpu!  On my lowly 800Mz unit, it takes 3-5
 minutes for gimp to repaint the screen with a 1200 dpi resolution
 image, and that's every time you switch desktops.


Haven't run into that but I just gave myself a Coolpix 2500 for Xmas so I 
am sure I have more fun awaiting.


 * Affirmed my belief that this is still the best user group on the
 planet.  Lots of good info, and all the flames you can eat! g


And we're here to make you eat those flames  g

 Here's hoping you all have a profitable, safe, and joyous new year.

And you too.  (and stuff that Gentoo where the New Year will do it 
some good!!)


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Re: Coolpix 2500: Update

2003-01-01 Thread Joel Hammer
Do you have any experience with ring illuminators?

Joel

 The most effective thing I've done with my Olympus 2020 Zoom is to buy an
 external flash which can be used for bounce rather than direct flash.  This
 largely eliminates red eye, and reflections of the flash itself from the
 pictures.  The Olympus doesn't have a hot shoe, so it required an adapter
 for the flash which connects with a separate cable to the side of the
 camera.  The adapter screws into the tripod mount screw on the bottom of
 the camera, and provides a handle on left side of the camera with a mount
 similar to the normal hot shoe.
 
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Re: Coolpix 2500: Update

2003-01-01 Thread Keith Antoine
At 10:16 AM 1/01/2003 -0500, you wrote:

Just an update on this camera.

I have been using it for about a week. It takes excellent photos,
faraway and close up, and plays very nicely with linux. Red eye is
still a nuisance, however. I must be doing something wrong there. So,
if anyone is looking for a moderately priced digital camera ($280),
this is an excellent choice.


Most photographic software can remove red-eye, however just use the std 
photographers
trick of not allowing the subject to stare straight into the camera when 
taking photos. They
always look more natural if they look off camera anyway.



Diverticulosis never looked this good
before.



It might look great but it can feel terrible mate grin

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Re: It seems there is no end to greed!

2003-01-01 Thread Bob Hemus
R. Quenett wrote:
 
 from Joel Hammer:
---
I tried looking it up in Bartlett's, but couldn't find it so I'm not
sure if it was Mark Twain or Will Rogers who said to the effect; We
have the finest politicians money can buy.  Probably this maxim
respects no borders or ethnic groups?
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Re: 2002 Remembrances

2003-01-01 Thread Jerry McBride
On Wed, 01 Jan 2003 15:09:44 -0700 Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Memorable moments for me in 2002 included:
 

Mine...

* layed off and called back to work, before I even left the building on two
separate occasions. What a night mare! A age 46 I've learned alot about
human foibles and frailties and how cheap some humans appear in the eyes of
other humans. I'll never be the same.

* compiled kde 3.10 on a whim and fell in love with the pig... Really nice.

 * On the cusp of the new year I slayed the CUPS dragon and put up an
 lprng printing system (thanks to Joel's help)
 

* ditto... CUPS sucks so bad that your ears pop when you install it...

* Built my first real performance computer; msi kt3 ultra, xp 1600@2000+ water
cooled.

* Paid off the mortgage on our house... It's like being born again. Imagine
having an extra $1000.00 a month in your pocket. :')

 Here's hoping you all have a profitable, safe, and joyous new year. 
 

ditto.

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Re: JFSes

2003-01-01 Thread kwall
Feigning erudition, Bob Hemus wrote:
% I just got back a couple of days and the power came back on about an
% hour ago.  You folks may have worked this out already, I have about 600
% messages to go through.  There is an intersting article about IBM's
% journaling file system on page 18 of January's Linux Journal.  They seem
% real long on JFSes.  Like Lonnie.

There exists JFS as in IBM JFS, which is IBM's entry into journalled
filesystems. There also exists JFSes as in journalling filesystems in
general.

% Anybody else read it and come away with the same impression?

Haven't seen my LJ yet.

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Re: Mandrake Doomed?

2003-01-01 Thread Bob Hemus
Then, beginning in mid-1999, we entered the technology bubble whereby
several venture capitalists invested in MandrakeSoft. Their requirement
was that we would accelerate the development of the company while
leaving its management to an experienced staff of world-class managers. 

Their BIG ERROR!  World Class Managers are akin to Educational
Administrators.  Neither have been in the trenches for over 20 years,
if ever. If they get rid of 'em they may be able to climb out of their
hole.
Bob


Andrew Mathews wrote:
 
 Ken Moffat wrote:
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  So, I should give money to Mandrake to bail out greedy speculators? I
  don't think so. It's bad enough I have to support my ex-wife.
 
  Kurt
 
 
  Ouch, I can relate.
 
 
 Guess I'm lucky. Got a pair of 'em, but no financial obligations. Funny,
 I *still* don't have any money though.
 
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Re: 2002 Remembrances

2003-01-01 Thread Collins
On Wed, 01 Jan 2003 18:05:44 -0500
Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 01 Jan 2003 15:09:44 -0700 Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Memorable moments for me in 2002 included:
  
 
 Mine...
 
 * layed off and called back to work, before I even left the building
 on two separate occasions. What a night mare! A age 46 I've learned
 alot about human foibles and frailties and how cheap some humans
 appear in the eyes of other humans. I'll never be the same.

Bummer!  We've had a lot of layoffs at our company, including a few
dozen just in time for Christmas.  Thus far I've dodged the bullets.  At
my age (60 in a few days), I'll certainly never find the responsible,
enjoyable job I have now again.  Holding my thumbs.

 
 * compiled kde 3.10 on a whim and fell in love with the pig... Really
 nice.

It's a pig, but I like the general screen setup and interface better
than gnome.  

 
  * On the cusp of the new year I slayed the CUPS dragon and put up an
  lprng printing system (thanks to Joel's help)
  
 
 * ditto... CUPS sucks so bad that your ears pop when you install it...
 
 * Built my first real performance computer; msi kt3 ultra, xp
 1600@2000+ water cooled.

I'll copy my wife on this one!

 
 * Paid off the mortgage on our house... It's like being born again.
 Imagine having an extra $1000.00 a month in your pocket. :')
 

Looking forward to that in 1-2 years.  Probably just about the time for
the next round of layoffs. g


  Here's hoping you all have a profitable, safe, and joyous new year. 
  
 
 ditto.


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Re: 2002 Remembrances

2003-01-01 Thread m.w.chang
that should have been joyful rather than joyous.

Same to you. May the force and farce be with you. :P

 Here's hoping you all have a profitable, safe, and joyous new year. 
 

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Re: JFSes

2003-01-01 Thread Net Llama!
On 01/01/03 17:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Feigning erudition, Bob Hemus wrote:
% I just got back a couple of days and the power came back on about an
% hour ago.  You folks may have worked this out already, I have about 600
% messages to go through.  There is an intersting article about IBM's
% journaling file system on page 18 of January's Linux Journal.  They seem
% real long on JFSes.  Like Lonnie.

There exists JFS as in IBM JFS, which is IBM's entry into journalled
filesystems. There also exists JFSes as in journalling filesystems in
general.

% Anybody else read it and come away with the same impression?

Haven't seen my LJ yet.


Nor have I.  Although i thought the article in question was in last 
month's LJ.

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OT Re: 2002 Remembrances

2003-01-01 Thread Net Llama!
On 01/01/03 17:55, Collins wrote:

On Wed, 01 Jan 2003 18:05:44 -0500
Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

* layed off and called back to work, before I even left the building
on two separate occasions. What a night mare! A age 46 I've learned
alot about human foibles and frailties and how cheap some humans
appear in the eyes of other humans. I'll never be the same.


Bummer!  We've had a lot of layoffs at our company, including a few
dozen just in time for Christmas.  Thus far I've dodged the bullets.  At
my age (60 in a few days), I'll certainly never find the responsible,
enjoyable job I have now again.  Holding my thumbs.


Last year i survived 6 rounds of layoffs in which my department was 
decimated to the point where its now 80% smaller than it was a year ago, 
and 95% smaller than it was 2 years ago.  Its been an eye opening  
nerve racking experience.  They've cut to the bone, and i've been 
working the job of 4 people ever since.

* compiled kde 3.10 on a whim and fell in love with the pig... Really
nice.


It's a pig, but I like the general screen setup and interface better
than gnome.  

Its no secret that i dislike KDE, although i'm also not that big of a 
fan of Gnome.  I do find Gnome to be prettier than KDE, if that means 
anything.

* Paid off the mortgage on our house... It's like being born again.
Imagine having an extra $1000.00 a month in your pocket. :')



Looking forward to that in 1-2 years.  Probably just about the time for
the next round of layoffs. g


I dont' have a mortgage yet.  I'm still paying off college loans.


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Re: Mandrake Doomed?

2003-01-01 Thread Net Llama!
On 01/01/03 05:22, Bob Hemus wrote:

Then, beginning in mid-1999, we entered the technology bubble whereby
several venture capitalists invested in MandrakeSoft. Their requirement
was that we would accelerate the development of the company while
leaving its management to an experienced staff of world-class managers. 

Their BIG ERROR!  World Class Managers are akin to Educational
Administrators.  Neither have been in the trenches for over 20 years,
if ever. If they get rid of 'em they may be able to climb out of their
hole.

But therein lies the catch.  Once the VC's own you, you can't get rid 
of their hand picked management.  Its a deal with the devil.

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Re: Mandrake Doomed?

2003-01-01 Thread ianstepn
As I read it (though I don't have it before me) they did get rid of their devils and 
are well on the way out of the hole.  Having just looked at Mandrake 9.0 from the 
viewpoint of a newbie looking for a way to make computing affordable for more of the 
community, I hope things go their way.  Looks like a great distribution for the 
techy-challenged.

IanS

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From: Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, January 1, 2003 11:36 pm
Subject: Re: Mandrake Doomed?

 On 01/01/03 05:22, Bob Hemus wrote:
  Then, beginning in mid-1999, we entered the technology bubble 
 whereby several venture capitalists invested in MandrakeSoft. 
 Their requirement
  was that we would accelerate the development of the company while
  leaving its management to an experienced staff of world-class 
 managers. 
  
  Their BIG ERROR!  World Class Managers are akin to Educational
  Administrators.  Neither have been in the trenches for over 20 
 years, if ever. If they get rid of 'em they may be able to climb 
 out of their
  hole.
 
 But therein lies the catch.  Once the VC's own you, you can't 
 get rid 
 of their hand picked management.  Its a deal with the devil.
 
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config info location in Mandrake

2003-01-01 Thread Keith Morse

Speaking of Mandrake, where does config info normally get stored.  
Specifically I'm trying to find wireless data such as ESSID, mode and 
others.   This is off the remanents of an 8.2 install.  The card used is a 
WMP11  which is a direct pci interface.

http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?grid=33scid=36prid=196

I've looked in the usual places /etc/pcmcia /etc/sysconfig but am not 
finding the files those configs are stored in.  Ideas?

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