Re: Via C3 processor?
Ted Ozolins wrote: Net Llama! wrote: crap. C3 basically equals the performance of a slow PII. sure its usable, but not for anything other than email casual web surfing. On 01/03/03 19:52, Ken Moffat wrote: Any opinions on this Via C3 processor? Just wondered if what WalMart is trying to sell is usable. The C3 motherboards I've seen come with everyting but the kitchen_sink built in. They have very small footprints and are a great choice if you are thinking of making a mobile MP3 player. For anything more intensive , get a real cpu and mb. Okay, that's pretty much what I thought. Thanks. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OpenOffice and Powerpoint
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Re: OT XFS Build Problems
On Fri, 03 Jan 2003 20:46:55 -0700 Andrew Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Collins wrote: snip Nor has EXT3 ever failed this (usually unintentional) test for me. I did have a reiserfs system fail to recover after a lockup (about 3 years ago), but I'm user the current reiserfs is stable now. I truly wish I could say the same, but unfortunately that was one of the failings we could demonstrate fairly consistently. During a 2 hour evaluation before our Chief Justice, CEO, and CIO, as well as the management team, ext3 never did survive 5 hard resets in a row. We rebuilt the machines exactly the same, only difference being on an xfs filesystem, all packages were the same. xfs still, to this day, has never failed to recover itself, even under almost 100% load. We migrated our Informix database from raw logical partitions under AIX to xfs partitions under linux and the data set was monitored for corruption at the moment of impact with absolutely NO loss. [ snips ] Ext3 works great for most people, but I've had and seen too many problems to consider it ready for a production machine in our environment. I'm glad you've had good luck with it though. -- Good to know. I'll probably move to XFS when it becomes part of the mainstream in the 2.6 kernel. I hate patches, most especially patches that aren't always compatible with the rest of kernel development. Also, in the past, not every distro has XFS support, so I would get into the catch-22 situation of needing something from an XFS partition and not being able to mount it. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area gentoo 1.4 system ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CD-RW disks
On Fri, 03 Jan 2003 19:49:07 -0800 Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Collins wrote: I'll have to try some new media (sigh). All of these were still in shrink-wrap, however. Blanking them also does not work. I may have missed something here, but do music cd's play in that unit? -- Yes. And I can burn audio cd's (CD-R) as well and they work in external cd-players, I can also burn (CD-R) isos with no problems. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area gentoo 1.4 system ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OTInternet birthday was Wednesday.
It was the 20th anniversary Wed. for the internet http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20030103/ap_on_hi_te/techbits_internet_bday_3 Thank you Al Gore! ;-) Harry G ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Motherboards
My bias against VIA has come from years in the newsgroups where VIA has again and again been the culprit because it wasn't compatible with (sound, video, put product name here) cards. You may have to lower the sound card acceleration for example. Yes, many of these have been windows systems but at this point it was a hardware level problem. Yes, many of these are game machines but they do test the hardware G and when other chipsets had no problems with the same setup - it's very suspiciouis. And yes, VIA has issued driver updates to fix these but why should I have to hassle with this again and again - they need to do it right. Any chipset manufacturer can have a problem but VIA has had far too many over the years to suit me so I don't allow them on the vendor list when I look at motherboards. My $0.02 worth... VIA chipsets aren't that bad. In fact, it's the most common chipset that I'me exposed to, both at home and at work. As far as brands go. I'm totally amazed at how well SOYO motherboards work. Also MSI. My most recent purchase has been an MSI KT3 ULTRA2. Excellent, fast and decently priced. As for Intel cpu's... I go out of my way to avoid them. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
New Step
Thanks to Kurt Wall we now have a Step on Setting up the GNU Mailman listserver. You may find this step at http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
linux firewire recommendations
Anyone familiar with linux/fireware/adapters etc.? I'm looking to attach my JVC DVL805 camcorder to my linux box. Obviously I will need to add a firewire adapter to the box and software. I would love to hear your suggestions TIA -- Collins Richey - Denver Area gentoo 1.4 system ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Labels in /etc/fstab
I'm trying to use labels in /etc/fstab. According to man fstab(5) I should put LABEL=files but this gives me an error when it boots and goes to maintenance mode. I must be missing something simple but I've been over the man pages and can't find it. The partition does have a label on it. Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Labels in /etc/fstab
Never mind - I found it! I had another error on the line - I used 0,0 instead of 0 0!!! Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I'm trying to use labels in /etc/fstab. According to man fstab(5) I should put LABEL=files but this gives me an error when it boots and goes to maintenance mode. I must be missing something simple but I've been over the man pages and can't find it. The partition does have a label on it. Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
persistent new kernel woes
I have pestered the list about this, but I'd really like to get my kernel upgrade working with 2.4.20 from 2.4.2. If anyone on the list would oblige me in a short real time discussion, using ICQ; 12212330 or Yahoo: sanchiro12 Thanks for any help, Scott p.s. What I am hoping can happen is that I can get help identifying exactly what hardware I have, and to see what modules are loading at boot time, and then to review and list what I need to specifically compile in to the new kernel. Also, hoping to review my /var/log/messages to see what clues it can provide. I appreciate your help Lonni, and the help of others..I just think this would happen much more efficiently in a real time conversation. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
USB keyboard
Hi everyone, Hope you all had a good holiday. I spent some time trying to get my second PC installed with RH 8.0. I had some problems that I was wondering if anyone enountered or has any ideas about: The machine is a Compaq Presario, 700 mhz AMD Duron, 256MB RAM, 20G HD. It has a usb keyboard and PS/2 wheel mouse and ran W2K. I wanted to keep it dual boot in case of problems and because there were files that I might need on it. These are the steps I took to get linux installed: 1) It used partition magic to create the initial set of partitions and to squish windows into the first 7G, leaving the rest for linux. 2) Put RH 8.0 CD and rebooted machine. The initial screen to boot off the CD came up fine and I could type with no problem. 3) Next screen asking whether to verify the CD or skip froze solid. I tried some other installing 7.3 using and when got a kernel panic error right off on boot. Then I thought, hmmm, usb keyboard? I removed the usb keyboard and put a generic non-usb keyboard on it;the 8.0 install went without a hitch. So I know have a working 8.0 system that I can experiment with networking and the like. I also have my son using it to browse the net :-) But the real question for me is, why couldn't the installation deal with the usb keyboard? If I plug the keyboard back in, will it work? I haven't found too much on usb keyboards on the web or on the SxS site. Thoughts? = _ Susan Macchia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots... ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice and Powerpoint
On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 09:26:33AM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: Does anyone have experience exporting from OpenOffice to PowerPoint? I want to export simple presentations, just images slides and text slides. Have you thought of doing the presentation using html and a standard browser instead? That way it's not proprietary, and can be viewed anywhere. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Liberty don't work as good in practice as it does in speeches.'' Will Rogers ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: linux firewire recommendations
On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 10:17:24AM -0700, Collins wrote: Anyone familiar with linux/fireware/adapters etc.? I'm looking to attach my JVC DVL805 camcorder to my linux box. Obviously I will need to add a firewire adapter to the box and software. I'm using an Adaptec unit (downstairs so I can't see the model). When I was in CompUSA last week, I saw some adapters that have both USB 2 and FireWare on the same PCI card. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -- Herbert Spencer (1891) ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Knoppix does it again, in style
Just a line to plug knoppix some more. I tried it today on a computer at work. A compaq deskpro EN. Loaded and ran well, although I think memory was a problem for me. Only 128megs in the machine and graphics slowed things down. It played well with my USB nikon camera, to my surprise. This make 2 old AT machines, a newer ATX machine, an HP laptop, and the compaq, all without any diffculty. I was surprised to see cdrecord installed. They really haven't left much out. One thing they did leave out seems to be a decent dictionary for ispell. Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice and Powerpoint
On Sat, 2003-01-04 at 07:26, Joel Hammer wrote: Does anyone have experience exporting from OpenOffice to PowerPoint? I want to export simple presentations, just images slides and text slides. Thanks, Joel Hi Joel, I did a fair amount of OO Impress to Powerpoint a couple of months ago. The conversion is generally OK -say 85 to 95% -, but there are little glitches. 1. Bullets in Impress will still look like bullets when the converted file is viewed on your linux computer using OO. (The Impress file fileanme.sxi has been saved as filename.ppt and is being viewed using OO Impress.) When the same filename.ppt is viewed in MS Powerpoint the bullets will likely be seen as a small happy face rather than as a small black dot. 2. Picture / Graphic placement may be slightly different between the sxi file and the ppt file. The result is that the picture and the adjacent text may overlap. I have not tried animated or motion presentation, so I can not comment on any possible issues. Overall the problems are not insurmountable. The text, graphics, backgrounds, styles, and notes are all converted from sxi to ppt. Using a common font -arial or times new roman- will help but this still has the bullets problem (I was using Arial and encoding set at ISO-8859-1). HTH -- Ralph Sanford - If your government does not trust you, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - should you trust your government? DH/DSS Key - 0x7A1BEA01 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CD-RW disks
Collins wrote: I may have missed something here, but do music cd's play in that unit? -- Yes. And I can burn audio cd's (CD-R) as well and they work in external cd-players, I can also burn (CD-R) isos with no problems. I use cdr/w quite a bit for large file transfers between computers at work and home. I just tried blanking one (out of the box) and it failed. I've had these for about 6 months. using another rewritable that is from the same batch but has been used several times works just fine. Out of eight rewritables left in this batch, five failed, this is terrible, I've never had problems with Memorex in the past. I'll have to check some of the ones at work and see if they have the same problem (thats over 150 units). I'm now wondering if this is a time related problem associated with rewriteable media? -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Powered by Slackware 8.1, sent with Mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice and Powerpoint
Hmmm What I am going to have are four or five directories, each containing 4 or 5 jpg images. The contents of each directory must be displayed in proper order, but the order of presentation at the directory level will be random. Since these presentations are at least a weekly event, what I am trying to do is work out a system where presentations can be generated with very little effort. I was wondering how I could generate Powerpoint presentations semi-automatically. That idea sounds dumb, when I write it down and look at it on paper. HTML might be better suited for this. It would be no sweat to create the html with sed and a little knowledge of html (That's describes my knowledge of html). Given the excellent results I have been getting with html2ps and ps2pdf, maybe the whole thing can be made into one big pdf file. In full screen mode, this might make a very nice presentation. Now, that would give 'em something to talk about. It is interesting how many possibilities come to mind when you stop thinking in terms of MS software! This idea has merit. Got any more ideas? Thanks, Joel On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 10:27:55AM -0800, Bill Campbell wrote: On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 09:26:33AM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: Does anyone have experience exporting from OpenOffice to PowerPoint? I want to export simple presentations, just images slides and text slides. Have you thought of doing the presentation using html and a standard browser instead? That way it's not proprietary, and can be viewed anywhere. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Liberty don't work as good in practice as it does in speeches.'' Will Rogers ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Knoppix does it again, in style
I was using kde. Maybe that caused the slowness, since they say kde is a bit bloated. Joel On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 01:34:38PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: Loaded and ran well, although I think memory was a problem for me. Only 128megs in the machine and graphics slowed things down. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice and Powerpoint
On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 02:22:51PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote:
Hmmm
What I am going to have are four or five directories, each containing 4 or
5 jpg images. The contents of each directory must be displayed in proper
order, but the order of presentation at the directory level will be random.
Since these presentations are at least a weekly event, what I am trying
to do is work out a system where presentations can be generated with
very little effort. I was wondering how I could generate Powerpoint
presentations semi-automatically. That idea sounds dumb, when I write
it down and look at it on paper.
Computers are best when they automate repetitive tasks. One of
my primary gripes with M$ GUI programs like Word is that they
make many jobs more difficult. I've been automating reports from
databases using perl scripts and groff for years.
HTML might be better suited for this. It would be no sweat to create the html
with sed and a little knowledge of html (That's describes my knowledge of
html). Given the excellent results I have been getting with html2ps and
ps2pdf, maybe the whole thing can be made into one big pdf file. In full
screen mode, this might make a very nice presentation. Now, that would
give 'em something to talk about.
It is interesting how many possibilities come to mind when you stop
thinking in terms of MS software!
This idea has merit. Got any more ideas?
I'm attaching a quicky script I wrote to create web pages with
thumbnails to catalog images in a directory. This is crude, but
should give you some ideas.
Bill
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#!/usr/local/bin/perl
eval ' exec /usr/local/bin/perl -S $0 $@ '
if $running_under_some_shell;
shift if(join(, @ARGV) eq ); # Xenix Kludge
# $Header: /u/usr/cvs/lbin/getopt.perl,v 1.14 2000/10/19 23:04:35 bill Exp $
# $Date: 2000/10/19 23:04:35 $
# @(#) $Id: getopt.perl,v 1.14 2000/10/19 23:04:35 bill Exp $
use File::Basename;
my ($progname, $dirname) = fileparse($0); # save this very early
chop($dirname);
do /usr/bin/csspath.perl unless $ENV{'USR_BIN_CSSPATH'};
$USAGE =
#
# Usage: $progname [-v] [-e var=value]
#
# Options ArgumentDescription
# -f filenameFile containing images to index
# -c integer Number of columns (default 5)
# -v Verbose
#
;
sub usage {
die join(\n,@_) .
\n$USAGE\n;
}
# This is in the prototype because it's frequently fiddled on a
# case by case basis for local debugging.
sub run {
my $cmd = shift;
print STDERR system($cmd) if $verbose;
system($cmd);
}
# do getopts.pl;
use strict;
use Getopt::Long;
Getopt::Long::Configure qw {require_order bundling};
# declare global variables
use vars (
'%opt_e', # environment settings
'$opt_h', # print help
'$opt_v', # Verbose
'$verbose',
'$opt_c',
'$opt_f',
);
usage(Invalid Option) unless GetOptions (
'-e=s%',# environment variables
'-h|help',
'-v|verbose',
'-c|columns=n',
'-f|file-list=s',
);
for (keys %opt_e) {
$ENV{$_} = $opt_e{$_};
}
$verbose = '-v' if $opt_v;
my $suffix = $$ unless $opt_v;
sub un_taint {
my $PATH = $ENV{'PATH'};
$ENV{'PATH'} = $PATH;
$ = $;# make it ignore taintedness (
$) = $(;# gids )
}
# un_taint(); # make it ignore taintedness
# this sets TMPDIR to the largest available temporary directory.
require 'bigtmp.pl'; my $TMPDIR = bigtmp();
$\ = \n; # use newlines as separators.
my $seq = 0;
my $fmt = qq(convert '%s' -geometry 80x60 %s);
$opt_c = 5 unless $opt_c;
open(INDEX, index.html);
print INDEX titleIndex to @ARGV/title;
print INDEX h1Index to @ARGV/h1;
print INDEX table col=$opt_c;
open(INPUT, ($opt_f ? $opt_f : gfind @ARGV -follow -type f | sort |));
my @table_lines = ();
while(INPUT) {
chomp;
next if (/\.xvpics/);
next unless(/\.(jpe{0,1}g|gif|tif{1,2}|png|xpm)$/i);
$seq++;
my $thumbnail = sprintf(image_%04d.jpg, $seq);
my $cmd = sprintf($fmt, $_, $thumbnail);
run($cmd) unless -f $thumbnail;
push(@table_lines,
qq(tdA href=file:$_img src=$thumbnail/a/td));
}
while(@table_lines) {
print INDEX join(\n\t, 'tr',
splice(@table_lines, 0, $opt_c),
'/tr');
}
print INDEX /table;
__END__
convert 01100076.jpg -geometry 160x120 /tmp/test.jpg
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Re: USB keyboard
Susan Macchia wrote: I tried some other installing 7.3 using and when got a kernel panic error right off on boot. Then I thought, hmmm, usb keyboard? I removed the usb keyboard and put a generic non-usb keyboard on it;the 8.0 install went without a hitch. So I know have a working 8.0 system that I can experiment with networking and the like. I also have my son using it to browse the net :-) But the real question for me is, why couldn't the installation deal with the usb keyboard? If I plug the keyboard back in, will it work? I haven't found too much on usb keyboards on the web or on the SxS site. Thoughts? = I've run across this problem countless times doing installs RH and Mandrake. For some reason they have not included full support for USB in the default kernel. After installing with a standard keyboard and mouse, I've had to configure and compile the kernel to include full support for usb and usb initial file sys. Usually after a fresh install I got to kernel.org and acquire a vanilla kernel since I'll be compiling it anyway and go from there. As always YMMV. -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Powered by Slackware 8.1, sent with Mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CD-RW disks
I've been using Imation CD-RW 1x-4x compatible for quite a while now with no problems. Could be the vendor? Just my $.02 :-) Ted Ozolins wrote: Collins wrote: I may have missed something here, but do music cd's play in that unit? -- Yes. And I can burn audio cd's (CD-R) as well and they work in external cd-players, I can also burn (CD-R) isos with no problems. I use cdr/w quite a bit for large file transfers between computers at work and home. I just tried blanking one (out of the box) and it failed. I've had these for about 6 months. using another rewritable that is from the same batch but has been used several times works just fine. Out of eight rewritables left in this batch, five failed, this is terrible, I've never had problems with Memorex in the past. I'll have to check some of the ones at work and see if they have the same problem (thats over 150 units). I'm now wondering if this is a time related problem associated with rewriteable media? = _ Susan Macchia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots... ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: persistent new kernel woes
On 01/04/03 10:00, Bonez wrote: I have pestered the list about this, but I'd really like to get my kernel upgrade working with 2.4.20 from 2.4.2. If anyone on the list would oblige me in a short real time discussion, using ICQ; 12212330 or Yahoo: sanchiro12 Thanks for any help, Scott p.s. What I am hoping can happen is that I can get help identifying exactly what hardware I have, and to see what modules are loading at boot time, and then to review and list what I need to specifically compile in to the new kernel. Also, hoping to review my /var/log/messages to see what clues it can provide. I appreciate your help Lonni, and the help of others..I just think this would happen much more efficiently in a real time conversation. That's what irc is for. join #linux-users on irc.freenode.net -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 11:50am up 20 days, 18:59, 2 users, load average: 0.07, 0.05, 0.06 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
New Step
Thanks to Brett Holcomb we now have a Step on Setting up ALSA on Gentoo Linux. You may find this step at http://www.linux-sxs.org/gentoo_also.html ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OpenOffice and Powerpoint
Joel Hammer wrote: HTML might be better suited for this. It would be no sweat to create the html with sed and a little knowledge of html (That's describes my knowledge of html). Given the excellent results I have been getting with html2ps and ps2pdf, maybe the whole thing can be made into one big pdf file. In full screen mode, this might make a very nice presentation. Now, that would give 'em something to talk about. Hi, I'm afraid I know absolutely nothing about PP, but here's something that might interest you. Check out a slide presentation on the Knoppix website (www.knoppix.org - select the USA/British flag for the English pages) entitled Slides for the Knoppix Presentation at the Chemnitzer Linux-Tagen 2002. They actually are PP/Impress type presentations, but done in PDF. I came across them on the Knoppix iso I downloaded a couple of weeks ago. I didn't even know you could do this in PDF, but it looks great. If you can find out how they built them, this might be the way to go. Cheers! cmr -- Registered Linux User #241964 Do not meddle in the affairs of Wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger. -- Samwise Gamgee ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: New Step
Feigning erudition, Nobody wrote: % Thanks to Brett Holcomb we now have a Step on Setting up ALSA on Gentoo Linux. % You may find this step at http://www.linux-sxs.org/gentoo_also.html Um, gentoo-also.html? Perchance that should (or should have) been gentoo_alsa.html? Kurt -- We must remember the First Amendment which protects any shrill jackass no matter how self-seeking. -- F. G. Withington ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: New Step
On 01/04/03 12:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Feigning erudition, Nobody wrote: % Thanks to Brett Holcomb we now have a Step on Setting up ALSA on Gentoo Linux. % You may find this step at http://www.linux-sxs.org/gentoo_also.html Um, gentoo-also.html? Perchance that should (or should have) been gentoo_alsa.html? errr..yea, that. sorry. doug needs to fix this now, since its all DB driven. ugh. -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 1:10pm up 20 days, 20:19, 2 users, load average: 0.25, 0.42, 0.43 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: New Step
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Net Llama! spewed electrons into the ether that resembled: Um, gentoo-also.html? Perchance that should (or should have) been gentoo_alsa.html? fixed - -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://www.linux-sxs.org and http://jobs.linux-sxs.org Reality is a crutch for people who can't handle drugs. -- Lily Tomlin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+F07/SrrWWknCnMIRApFGAKCy7AXjWwOCF0oDWoNioGI7PHIeUQCgoVCN e/uL9OooFo6043kvVz4z07I= =YeCR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ghostscript compile
On Fri, 03 Jan 2003 21:05:22 -0800 Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 01/03/03 20:31, Joel Hammer wrote: You might find it easier just to get a version of gs which has your driver compiled in it. As I recall, trying to compile gs was beyond me. Joel On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 09:29:47PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been trying to get my printer, lexmark 3200, working under debian. It worked under mandrake before so I know it works with linux. After much RTFM, I found out the driver for this printer wasn't compiled into the debian pre-packaged gs. So my question is how do you compile a driver into gs that doesn't come standard? Has anyone needed to do this before? Agreed. I remember attempting to help a friend compile a print driver in ghostscript about 2 years ago. I was praying to be thrown into a circle of hell after fighting with it for a few hours. ghostscript is one of those ancient UNIX legacy apps that really needs a massive overhaul. Its been ported to death and really is utterly frightening in its internals. Well, I got it done. Perhaps I should have RTFMed a bit more before posting to the list. I found my answers in the README in the source dir for my driver, and the Make.html and Drivers.html files in the 'doc/' dir of my ghostscript source tree. At first glance I thought the Drivers.html file was aimed at developers, but only some of it is. The README file helped me understand what was in there. Once I cd'ed into the top level dir of the ghostscript source tree, I copied my driver source file into 'src/' and added a few lines to 'src/contrib.mak'. Then I ran ./configure and edited the resulting Makefile, adding one small entry there, then 'make' and 'make install'. I ran apsfilterconfig and now I have fully functional lexmark 3200 printer, and I now know more about printing than I thought I wanted to. ;-) Bill ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Server Distros -- Update
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:56:07 -0800 Condon Thomas A KPWA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Great! I'm glad to hear that you had good results and enjoyed it. David's book is on my shelf as well, and you're right: it's great. Happy Linning! Thanks for all the help this list has offered in the past, recent and remote. I consider each day's reading a learning experience. In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) Thomas A. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 A Jester Unemployed ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ghostscript compile
On 01/04/03 13:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I got it done. Perhaps I should have RTFMed a bit more before posting to the list. I found my answers in the README in the source dir for my driver, and the Make.html and Drivers.html files in the 'doc/' dir of my ghostscript source tree. At first glance I thought the Drivers.html file was aimed at developers, but only some of it is. The README file helped me understand what was in there. Once I cd'ed into the top level dir of the ghostscript source tree, I copied my driver source file into 'src/' and added a few lines to 'src/contrib.mak'. Then I ran ./configure and edited the resulting Makefile, adding one small entry there, then 'make' and 'make install'. I ran apsfilterconfig and now I have fully functional lexmark 3200 printer, and I now know more about printing than I thought I wanted to. Excellent, congrats. Could you write up a SxS on the process and send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]? -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 1:45pm up 20 days, 20:54, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.01 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: 2002 Remembrances
On Wed, 01 Jan 2003 18:05:44 -0500 Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 01 Jan 2003 15:09:44 -0700 Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Memorable moments for me in 2002 included: Mine... * layed off and called back to work, before I even left the building on two separate occasions. What a night mare! A age 46 I've learned alot about human foibles and frailties and how cheap some humans appear in the eyes of other humans. I'll never be the same. I'm still having to cope with these lessons... Not laid off or fired, but sometimes I wonder how far I am from it. Then again, if I ran Windows at work like everyone else I'd probably annoy my boss less... * compiled kde 3.10 on a whim and fell in love with the pig... Really nice. I can hardly wait... * On the cusp of the new year I slayed the CUPS dragon and put up an lprng printing system (thanks to Joel's help) * ditto... CUPS sucks so bad that your ears pop when you install it... Ok, now I can't sit by and let this one slide... lprng is a great daemon for sharing a local printer. CUPS is great for printing to non-PS printers. Sure, you can make lprng do it, but it sure ain't nice and friendly. Biggest problems I've had with CUPS is setting a wrong printer driver and getting NOTHING printed as the print jobs evaporate, and: remote print server goes away temporarily, and CUPS stops the local print queue... not to start back up without manual intervention. But my nightmares with lprng on a desktop machine still live, burned eternally into my memory. CUPS is a good desktop system. * Built my first real performance computer; msi kt3 ultra, xp 1600@2000+ water cooled. * Paid off the mortgage on our house... It's like being born again. Imagine having an extra $1000.00 a month in your pocket. :') This is where I get SUPER jealous on both counts. You must have done something right to have the house paid off by 46. My wife and I are refinancing taking the 26 years on our mortgage and rolling them into a 15 year, paying off one piece of land and the school loan. At 29 years and 4 days, we're working on it :) As for the performance machine, I'm still subsisting ona Celeron 300A (overclocked to 450MHz) and a Diamond Viper 330 which doesn't accelerate in X (I bought it before I met Linux), a mammoth NEC 5FGp 17 boat of a monitor, and several other lesser machines which make great servers. Happy New Year and Merry Christmas (day 10) Matt ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: raid
At 05:22 PM 3/01/2003 -0800, you wrote: On 01/03/03 17:10, Keith Antoine wrote: At 03:53 PM 3/01/2003 -0800, you wrote: On 01/03/03 15:40, Keith Antoine wrote: Well the holidays are over and all my family have gone, just the two of us again. I have been using windows for two reasons, one is that I had problems with mandrake 9.0 and went The problem arose i that when I went to re-install the drives were shown as hac,hdd and hde; no hda hdc as I used to have with cd drives on b and d. looked as if they are now hda and hdb ?? This is real wierd and I do not seem to be able to change the to what they should be., was thinkingbof taking the raid out of circuit for the install but! Is this hardware or software RAID? If its hardware, what kind of controller is it? Perhaps a BIOS problem? Its a promise chip in an Asus A7V333. So did you change anything in its BIOS? No, but I have delved into what is happening and its wierd. Lets take windows first with raid enabled: its XP pro. It boots and allocates primary master with C and D partitions. Then it allocated the raid drive as G. Then the two dvd drives, ones a burner as E F. Linux will not boot at all in this state but will when I disable raid on the MB. It comes up with the following drive configuration when raid is enabled: hdd = raid drive hde = primary master hdf = Samsung dvd reader hdg = Secondary master hdh = Dvd Burner hda, hdc do not appear at all ! Now it cannot be bios otherwise windows would exhibit the same problem but it does not, so what is there that causes linux to differ ??? Keith aka skippy ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Distirbuitions
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:06:22 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote: % On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % Feigning erudition, Net Llama! wrote: % % [distribution and window manager preferences] % % % I can post screenshots of both XFCE-3.8.18 XFCE-4.x (from yesterday's% % cvs checkout) if anyone is interested. % % I'd be interested in the XFCE version 4 stuff. % % otay, here's my latest desktop: % http://linux-sxs.org/~netllama/xfce4.png Hmm. It just stalls while loading. So much for XFCE being fast :) ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Server Distros -- Update
Great! I'm glad to hear that you had good results and enjoyed it. David's book is on my shelf as well, and you're right: it's great. Forgive me; I missed which book this is? -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: raid
On 01/04/03 13:59, Keith Antoine wrote: So did you change anything in its BIOS? No, but I have delved into what is happening and its wierd. Lets take windows first with raid enabled: its XP pro. It boots and allocates primary master with C and D partitions. Then it allocated the raid drive as G. Then the two dvd drives, ones a burner as E F. Linux will not boot at all in this state but will when I disable raid on the MB. It comes up with the following drive configuration when raid is enabled: hdd = raid drive hde = primary master hdf = Samsung dvd reader hdg = Secondary master hdh = Dvd Burner hda, hdc do not appear at all ! Now it cannot be bios otherwise windows would exhibit the same problem but it does not, so what is there that causes linux to differ ??? I've never done IDE RAID, so perhaps i'm way off base here. Are you sure its not supposed to work this way? Is the problem that you can't install Linux like this, or can't get a preinstalled version to boot? -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 2:15pm up 20 days, 21:24, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
SCSI device detected multiple times
I've notice that when my system boots and is doing SCSI device discovery that it lists a scanner multiple times. The RAID, SCSI CD, are discovered and then the scanner shows up as filling all the luns on a card. It's like it answers to the query for each lun. It is an old Microteck Scanmaker IIsp so maybe that's it? -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCSI device detected multiple times
Perhaps a termination problem? I could swear someone else had this problem months ago. Check the list archives perhaps? On 01/04/03 15:36, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I've notice that when my system boots and is doing SCSI device discovery that it lists a scanner multiple times. The RAID, SCSI CD, are discovered and then the scanner shows up as filling all the luns on a card. It's like it answers to the query for each lun. It is an old Microteck Scanmaker IIsp so maybe that's it? -- ~ L. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo: http://netllama.ipfox.com 3:45pm up 20 days, 22:54, 2 users, load average: 0.17, 0.26, 0.18 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Gimp Question: Multiple cuts and pastes
Is there a way in gimp to do multiple copies from an image and then paste them back into the image in random order, like klipper does for kde? I suppose you could put them into another layer as a workaround, but, it might be nice to have a direct way of doing this. Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SCSI device detected multiple times
Hmm, could be. I'll check into it. Net Llama! wrote: Perhaps a termination problem? I could swear someone else had this problem months ago. Check the list archives perhaps? On 01/04/03 15:36, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I've notice that when my system boots and is doing SCSI device discovery that it lists a scanner multiple times. The RAID, SCSI CD, are discovered and then the scanner shows up as filling all the luns on a card. It's like it answers to the query for each lun. It is an old Microteck Scanmaker IIsp so maybe that's it? -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] AKA Grunt Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Slackware Mailing List
Hello, list, I'm pleased to announce that KurtWerks now hosts a mailing list for users of Slackware. List information and subscription instructions available at http://www.kurtwerks.com/mailman/listinfo.cgi/slackware. I look forward to seeing all the Slackware users on this list on [EMAIL PROTECTED] To try to head off any criticism of posting this here, let me make perfectly clear that KurtWerks hosting a Slackware mailing list is *no* way suggests *any* dissatisfaction with this list or the job Doug has done running the Steps site. IMHO, linux-sxs.org is the premier site for Linux support and [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the all-around best general list for supporting general Linux users. I created [EMAIL PROTECTED] to meet a distinct need for a Slackware-specific mailing list -- slackware.com does not have such a list and I no longer venture out to Usenet. I also created the list out of a desire to run my own mailing list. I'll continue to be an active participant here and will continue in my role as an editor, hopefully a more prominent one. I hope to be just as busy over at KurtWerks. After all, it is my own site and I've been wanting to do something more interesting with it for quite some time. Finally, I have not official affiliation with the Slackware site. This is strictly my own undertaking. Best regards, Kurt -- Know what I hate most? Rhetorical questions. -- Henry N. Camp ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Gimp Question: Multiple cuts and pastes
Joel Hammer wrote: Is there a way in gimp to do multiple copies from an image and then paste them back into the image in random order, like klipper does for kde? I suppose you could put them into another layer as a workaround, but, it might be nice to have a direct way of doing this. Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users This might work... Right Click - Edit/Buffer/Cut or Copy Named -- several times, then Paste Named several times? -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
another small problem with networking
I have a friend that has a linux box (mandrake9.0) and an XP plus a ME connected. We can get it to the stage where we can ping from 192.168.0.1 to either of the others (3 4) and from them to 1 or 2. We have 2 inet cards installed in the linux box. However we cannot get to the net from either of the windows boxes. Forwarding is active, tried masquerade and it locked it up tight. Have one cable that does not work at all, it has to be a crossover cable ; right? -- Keith Antoine (GANDALF) aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: 2002 Remembrances
On Fri, 03 Jan 2003 16:56:05 -0500 Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 01 Jan 2003 18:05:44 -0500 Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 01 Jan 2003 15:09:44 -0700 Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Memorable moments for me in 2002 included: Mine... * layed off and called back to work, before I even left the building on two separate occasions. What a night mare! A age 46 I've learned alot about human foibles and frailties and how cheap some humans appear in the eyes of other humans. I'll never be the same. I'm still having to cope with these lessons... Not laid off or fired, but sometimes I wonder how far I am from it. Then again, if I ran Windows at work like everyone else I'd probably annoy my boss less... If you're on the radar screen for any reason at all, you'll be remembered come someday. I was sacked twice, once with two weeks notice and once out of the blue and called back to work before I left the building. It still warms my cheeks when I think of it. If you've got a supervisor, then you've got a number stamped on your forehead. Just prepare yourselves as best as possible and try and live with it, one day at a time. * compiled kde 3.10 on a whim and fell in love with the pig... Really nice. I can hardly wait... * On the cusp of the new year I slayed the CUPS dragon and put up an lprng printing system (thanks to Joel's help) * ditto... CUPS sucks so bad that your ears pop when you install it... Ok, now I can't sit by and let this one slide... lprng is a great daemon for sharing a local printer. CUPS is great for printing to non-PS printers. Sure, you can make lprng do it, but it sure ain't nice and friendly. Biggest problems I've had with CUPS is setting a wrong printer driver and getting NOTHING printed as the print jobs evaporate, and: remote print server goes away temporarily, and CUPS stops the local print queue... not to start back up without manual intervention. But my nightmares with lprng on a desktop machine still live, burned eternally into my memory. CUPS is a good desktop system. I'm waiting for the version that has those particular problems fixed. Then it will be a very nice printer daemon. That manual intervention that you mention is just fine... unless you've got to walk a mile to kick the box that's hung... * Built my first real performance computer; msi kt3 ultra, xp 1600@2000+ water cooled. * Paid off the mortgage on our house... It's like being born again. Imagine having an extra $1000.00 a month in your pocket. :') This is where I get SUPER jealous on both counts. You must have done something right to have the house paid off by 46. My wife and I are refinancing taking the 26 years on our mortgage and rolling them into a 15 year, paying off one piece of land and the school loan. At 29 years and 4 days, we're working on it :) It's a tough row to hoe, you want to know the secret? What we did was; lived like hermits and put every spare dime we had against our mortgage. And I mean every single one... Any day you want a tip on how to make a dime cry... just ask. It's been one big nut cracker, but now it's over. Would I do it all again? Hell no... :0) -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net 10:12pm up 42 days, 23:51, 12 users, load average: 1.54, 1.23, 1.25 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: another small problem with networking
On Sun, 05 Jan 2003 14:16:22 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a friend that has a linux box (mandrake9.0) and an XP plus a ME connected. We can get it to the stage where we can ping from 192.168.0.1 to either of the others (3 4) and from them to 1 or 2. We have 2 inet cards installed in the linux box. However we cannot get to the net from either of the windows boxes. Forwarding is active, tried masquerade and it locked it up tight. Have one cable that does not work at all, it has to be a crossover cable ; right? All connections into the hub should be straight through cables, including the server. The only exception is that if you stack hubs, some of them won't have an expansion port and you'll need a cross over cable. The cable connection from the server to the inet would depend on how you're getting your inet feed. If it's over a cable via a cable modem, some use a cross over cable, some use straight... it depends on what your provider gave you. Your server has two nic's, one for internet connection, the other feeding into a hub/switch box, then you should run a firewall script the enables masquerading. That locking up you mentioned, Did you modify a firewall script for your setup? It could be you entered a host name incorrectly and iptables/ipchains is waiting to timeout before it moves on to the next line in your firewall script. For instance, if I re-run my firewall script when my ISP's smtp server is off-line, the script will hang there until it times out and then continues on as normal. -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux Join me in chat at #linux-users on irc.freenode.net 11:28pm up 43 days, 1:07, 10 users, load average: 1.28, 1.34, 1.27 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
