Re: Video card

2003-09-01 Thread Joel Hammer
 If you've never built a kernel on this machine, you should
 probably run ``make mrproper'' before doing anything as this
 brings in the defaults the original Caldera kernels use.

I have built numerous kernels on this machine. It was simpler in
the old days.  I didn't run mrproper because I had to use all the
configuration settings of my old kernel. My old kernel is a win4lin
patched thingee. I would gladly buy a windows computer before I installed
win4lin again.

Joel

 Doesn't eDesktop 2.4 use grub?

I have always used lilo with this Caldera 2.4 box.

Joel

On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 03:50:51PM -0700, Bill Campbell wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 31, 2003, Joel Hammer wrote:
  recompiled it how?  what did you change from the last kernel?
 
 I didn't change a thing. I just went into /usr/src/linux, and ran make
 dep make clean make bzImage.
 
 If you've never built a kernel on this machine, you should
 probably run ``make mrproper'' before doing anything as this
 brings in the defaults the original Caldera kernels use.
 
 I shoulda saved an old copy of the kernel. I rebooted without trouble
 after running lilo.conf, but the second reboot I got a hard drive error.
 
 Doesn't eDesktop 2.4 use grub?
 
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Re: Video card

2003-09-01 Thread Bill Campbell
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003, Joel Hammer wrote:
 If you've never built a kernel on this machine, you should
 probably run ``make mrproper'' before doing anything as this
 brings in the defaults the original Caldera kernels use.

I have built numerous kernels on this machine. It was simpler in
the old days.  I didn't run mrproper because I had to use all the
configuration settings of my old kernel. My old kernel is a win4lin
patched thingee. I would gladly buy a windows computer before I installed
win4lin again.

Running win4lin on SuSE 8.[12] is pretty easy.  Download their patched
kernel and go.  I have an eDesktop 2.4 system here running win4lin that
still works on those very rare occassions when I want to run somthing under
the Windows virus (practically never since I've been running OS X on a G4
which runs TurboTax).  I really learned to build Caldera kernel RPMS by
applying the win4lin patches to the eDesktop 2.4 SRPMS.

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Re: What the hell is going on - SOBIG.F

2003-09-01 Thread Shawn Tayler
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:38:29 -0400 (EDT) Gerry Doris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
professed:

 I even tried scanning my quarantine directory and ClamAV still misses the
 virus.  Yes. I'm using the latest ClamAV signatures.
 
 I suspect these virii are coming through the list.  I could be wrong
 since Sobig forges the headers but I think they're slipping through.

Yes,

ClamAV is definitely missing some variants of the SoBig.  I have 5 examples
here that it fails to ID but rav gets them each time
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Re: Test

2003-09-01 Thread Shawn Tayler
On 31 Aug 2003 19:44:24 -0400 burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] professed:

 Test, over
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Your are 559 OM
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Re: Video card

2003-09-01 Thread Joel Hammer
Well, I finally got the thing to reboot, and the newly compiled kernel 
is running, and I get the exact same error from the nvidia install 
script. It claims the compiler I used to compile the kernel is different 
from the one I am compiling the kernel module for the nvidia driver. 
I'll never know because I have no way of knowing which compiler the 
install script is using.

After running the install script, if I try to start KDM I get a missing 
kernel module. Luckily, rebooting solves this problem.
Now, I haven't recompiled all my modules with the new compiler. Things 
are working so why push it.
Unless I can find the Makefile for this thing and tell it to ignore the 
compiler difference,  it looks like I will have to find an older video 
card for this box. Maybe ebay.

Joel

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Re: Video card

2003-09-01 Thread Net Llama!
On 08/31/03 15:43, Joel Hammer wrote:

recompiled it how?  what did you change from the last kernel?


I didn't change a thing. I just went into /usr/src/linux, and ran make
If you didn't change anything, then how would the original problem be 
resolved??  Does your kernel have any AGP support?

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Re: Video card

2003-09-01 Thread Shawn Tayler
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:09:58 -0400 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
professed:

 Well, I finally got the thing to reboot, and the newly compiled kernel 
 is running, and I get the exact same error from the nvidia install 
 script. It claims the compiler I used to compile the kernel is different 
 from the one I am compiling the kernel module for the nvidia driver. 
 I'll never know because I have no way of knowing which compiler the 
 install script is using.

Rebuild the nvidia driver from scratch it all it takes

Shawn
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Re: Video card

2003-09-01 Thread Ken Moffat
Joel Hammer wrote:

 
Unless I can find the Makefile for this thing and tell it to ignore 
the compiler difference,  it looks like I will have to find an older 
video card for this box. Maybe ebay.

Joel
Are all these problems from the nvidia*.run script? I had no problems on 
a couple of machines here running geforce4 cards.

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Re: Video card

2003-09-01 Thread Joel Hammer
My problem, according to the nvidia install script, is that I used a 
different compiler to make the kernel than I was using to compile the 
kernel module for the driver.
I compiled this kernel about two years ago and since then I tried to 
update glibc (never again) and I suspect I updated the compiler at some 
time, too.
So, I just recompiled my kernel with the current compiler. Luckily the 
.config was the same. That was supposed to have made things better, but, 
there was no change. Same error when I tried to compile the kernel module.
Joel

Net Llama! wrote:

On 08/31/03 15:43, Joel Hammer wrote:

recompiled it how? what did you change from the last kernel?


I didn't change a thing. I just went into /usr/src/linux, and ran make


If you didn't change anything, then how would the original problem be 
resolved?? Does your kernel have any AGP support?






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Re: What the hell is going on - SOBIG.F

2003-09-01 Thread Keith Antoine
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 05:37 am, Gerry Doris wrote:


 Well, I guess if no one else has been seeing all these virii then the
 infected system(s) picked up my email address and is using the list as
 the source.

No you are NOT the only one as i am inundated with UMCx messages from this 
list plus uUndelivered mail notices. I also got 3 SOBIG-F virii  as well and 
I am also slightly pissed off that the list is letting over 24 messages slip 
by. If I was and could be in windows I would be infected, maybe! It has only 
happened with the Sobig virus and i am guessing that the virus scanner being 
used is not doing its job. I also am seeing messages to other people that the 
list seems to n be letting through. VACATION Kaycy Martin in particular.

It just seems that things have gone haywire over the past few days.


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Re: Test

2003-09-01 Thread Keith Antoine
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:44 am, burns wrote:
 Test, over

Hell, I did not even know it had begun! Waht was I tested for?

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Re: Video card

2003-09-01 Thread joel
Yes, I wouldn't lie about something like this.
The nvidia install script has its own ideas about which compiler it is 
using.
Are there any other names for the compiler except gcc?
I have searched my box for gcc and cc and all I get is /usr/bin/gcc. 
Nothing else.
Joel

Ken Moffat wrote:

Joel Hammer wrote:

 
Unless I can find the Makefile for this thing and tell it to ignore 
the compiler difference,  it looks like I will have to find an older 
video card for this box. Maybe ebay.

Joel


Are all these problems from the nvidia*.run script? I had no problems 
on a couple of machines here running geforce4 cards.

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Re: Video card

2003-09-01 Thread Ken Moffat
joel wrote:

Yes, I wouldn't lie about something like this.
The nvidia install script has its own ideas about which compiler it is 
using.
Are there any other names for the compiler except gcc?
I have searched my box for gcc and cc and all I get is /usr/bin/gcc. 
Nothing else.
Joel

Generally gcc is a link to gcc-2.95 or gcc-3.2 or 3.3. If you
ls -l /usr/bin/gcc*
you'll see what's there to choose from. You can change the link to point 
to a different version.

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external cd-rw

2003-09-01 Thread Ken Moffat
I have an old hp7200e external parallel-port cd-rw that I'd like to try. 
Anyone have any info on this thing? I've tried to hook it up using some 
instructions from the web, but it won't mount.

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Re: Test

2003-09-01 Thread burns
On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 21:41, Keith Antoine wrote:
 On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:44 am, burns wrote:
  Test, over
 
 Hell, I did not even know it had begun! Waht was I tested for?
 

sexually transmitted diseases. You failed and now will have to study
much harder for the re-test.
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Re: Test

2003-09-01 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth burns:
 Test, over


Ayup.
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Re: Test

2003-09-01 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Keith Antoine:
 On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:44 am, burns wrote:
  Test, over
 
 Hell, I did not even know it had begun! Waht was I tested for?

If we have to tell you, you failed. :-)

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Re: external cd-rw

2003-09-01 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Ken Moffat:
 I have an old hp7200e external parallel-port cd-rw that I'd like to try. 
 Anyone have any info on this thing? I've tried to hook it up using some 
 instructions from the web, but it won't mount.

You probably need external IDE device support in your kernel. This
used to mean PARIDE ($SRC/Documentation/paride.txt). In fact, the
HP 7200 is specifically mentioned (not, necessarily, the e variation
thereof).

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Re: OT Why Microsoft has to go ...

2003-09-01 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On 30 Aug 2003 21:32:16 -0400
burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nothing fishy here. The patents are intellectual property and assets of
 the corporation. As such they are the property of the investors and the
 creditors. Selling them to your wife is illegal in this instance.

Not if the investors agree to do so. How many can there be in a company of
two employees?

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Re: Test

2003-09-01 Thread Keith Antoine
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:54 pm, burns wrote:
 On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 21:41, Keith Antoine wrote:
  On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:44 am, burns wrote:
   Test, over
 
  Hell, I did not even know it had begun! Waht was I tested for?

 sexually transmitted diseases. You failed and now will have to study
 much harder for the re-test.

Thats no bloody good, I lost the instruction sheet.

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Re: Test

2003-09-01 Thread Terence McCarthy
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:31:00 +1000
Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thats no bloody good, I lost the instruction sheet.

so what about the hand book?

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Re: Video card

2003-09-01 Thread Joel Hammer
Good idea.
which `gcc` returns:
/usr/local/bin/gcc
and 
file `which gcc`
shows a binary file.
strings `which gcc` shows version 2.95.3, which is what I think I
am using.

I went the extra step and recompiled my modules and make'd
modules_install.  However, depmod wouldn't work, never has on this
machine.

I still get the same error when I try to compile the NV kernel module,
the NV install script complaining about the compiler version being
different from the one used to compile the running kernel.
uname -a show the newly compiled kernel is running.

I would put this card into another computer (one of my lindows boxes,
for example) but those kernels come precompiled and there is little
chance the compiler I have downloaded was used to compile those kernels.

So, until I can find which Makefile into which I have to insert the
IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH directive, I appear to be stuck.

Joel

On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 07:20:14PM -0700, Ken Moffat wrote:
 joel wrote:
 
  Yes, I wouldn't lie about something like this.
  The nvidia install script has its own ideas about which compiler it is 
  using.
  Are there any other names for the compiler except gcc?
  I have searched my box for gcc and cc and all I get is /usr/bin/gcc. 
  Nothing else.
  Joel
 
 
 Generally gcc is a link to gcc-2.95 or gcc-3.2 or 3.3. If you
 ls -l /usr/bin/gcc*
 you'll see what's there to choose from. You can change the link to point 
 to a different version.
 
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Re: Test

2003-09-01 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Terence McCarthy:
 On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:31:00 +1000
 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Thats no bloody good, I lost the instruction sheet.
 
 so what about the hand book?

Woot!

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Re: OT Why Microsoft has to go ...

2003-09-01 Thread burns
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 02:33, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:
 On 30 Aug 2003 21:32:16 -0400
 burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Nothing fishy here. The patents are intellectual property and assets of
  the corporation. As such they are the property of the investors and the
  creditors. Selling them to your wife is illegal in this instance.
 
 Not if the investors agree to do so. How many can there be in a company of
 two employees?

They would still have to get the OK from their investors - that IP is
probably what their investors bought into in the first place. A company
of 2 people has no other value.
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Re: Video card

2003-09-01 Thread Tom Marinis
Joel Hammer wrote:
Good idea.
which `gcc` returns:
/usr/local/bin/gcc
and 
file `which gcc`
shows a binary file.
strings `which gcc` shows version 2.95.3, which is what I think I
am using.

I went the extra step and recompiled my modules and make'd
modules_install.  However, depmod wouldn't work, never has on this
machine.
I still get the same error when I try to compile the NV kernel module,
the NV install script complaining about the compiler version being
different from the one used to compile the running kernel.
uname -a show the newly compiled kernel is running.
I would put this card into another computer (one of my lindows boxes,
for example) but those kernels come precompiled and there is little
chance the compiler I have downloaded was used to compile those kernels.
So, until I can find which Makefile into which I have to insert the
IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH directive, I appear to be stuck.
Joel

On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 07:20:14PM -0700, Ken Moffat wrote:

joel wrote:


Yes, I wouldn't lie about something like this.
The nvidia install script has its own ideas about which compiler it is 
using.
Are there any other names for the compiler except gcc?
I have searched my box for gcc and cc and all I get is /usr/bin/gcc. 
Nothing else.
Joel

Generally gcc is a link to gcc-2.95 or gcc-3.2 or 3.3. If you
ls -l /usr/bin/gcc*
you'll see what's there to choose from. You can change the link to point 
to a different version.



I'm sorry for jumping in late, but maybe you
installed and mixed files, binaries, and libraries
for all your GCC stuff?
I always check for gcc version like this;

$ gcc --version

Here is what I've done in my case. KURT and DAVID
BANDEL, Andrew Mathews, and Net Llama pointed me in
the right direction, although it took awhile to for
me comprehend and understand their advice.  ;)


I wanted to upgrade the compilers, be able to quickly
dump them when necessary, but still retain the
original compiler intact;
installed gcc version 2.95, 3.1, 3.2, 3.2.2  in the
following manner;
/usr/local/share/gcc/version_number/

When I built all my installation files for the compiler,
I placed them all under that particular directory, so say for
instance 2.95.3, which I learned was the wrong thing to
do, but it worked...It makes deleting them very easy now,
since I merely dump that particular directory.
So, for instance, 2.95.3 looked like and had all the
compiler files in the following locations.
/usr/local/share/gcc/2.95.3/bin
/usr/local/share/gcc/2.95.3/lib
/usr/local/share/gcc/2.95.3/include
/usr/local/share/gcc/2.95.3/info
/usr/local/share/gcc/2.95.3/man
/usr/local/share/gcc/2.95.3/i686-pc-linux
Then I edited my /etc/.bashrc file for the root
account, and then add a export for the particular
compiler I want to use.  I merely had to specify the
/bin directory of that particular compiler.
When I tried the first time, I was using the
Caldera 3.1.1 distro, and the compiler I wanted
to use was for all users, so I copied and saved,
then changed the /etc/.bashrc file to
something like this...
You may want to save and then alter your root .bashrc file,
and have a statment order that specify the compiler you
wish to use first, pointing to that particular binary.
[ typically, /usr/local/bin  ]
What my setup looked like, what I did.

The Original /etc/.bashrc statement;
tab means insert tab here...
# try to generate an elaborate PATH ...
_p=$HOME/bin
[ $UID = 0 ]tab _p=$_p /usr/local/bin /sbin /usr/sbin


===

My modified /etc/.bashrc statement;

I exchange /usr/local/bin for

/usr/local/share/gcc/2.95.3/bin

NOTE:

the last line is all one line...
tab means insert tab here...
# try to generate an elaborate PATH ...
_p=$HOME/bin
[ $UID = 0 ]tab _p=$_p usr/local/share/gcc/2.95.3/bin
/sbin /usr/sbin




Next,

The compiler specific included libraries.
I had to include them for the particular compiler.
I had to modify the /etc/ld.so.conf file to see them,
so I had to edit that file.
The original /etc/ld.so.conf;

/usr/X11R6/lib
/opt/kde/lib
/opt/kde2/lib
/usr/lib/qt2/lib
The modified version of /etc/ld.so.conf;

/usr/X11R6/lib
/opt/kde/lib
/opt/kde2/lib
/usr/lib/qt2/lib
/usr/local/share/gcc/2.95.3/lib
/usr/local/share/gcc/2.95.3/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux/2.95.3/
Then load the cache, as root,

$ ldconfig -v

I confirm the cache contents by doing this...

$ ldconfig -p

Done.



I have yet to figure out how to reload the current
libraries loaded on boot up by Linux.  If I knew, it
would be a matter of simply stopping and restarted or
rather, reloading the libraries required.
I was stuck with rebooting the computer, but
since I was the only user, it didn't matter.
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insmod error: Couldn't find kernel version module was compiled for

2003-09-01 Thread Joel Hammer
This was the video card thread, but I have made great progress.  I found
that if you use a -keep option with the installer script, it saves
everything, including the instructions, so you can fiddle with whatever.

I tracked down the Makefile for building the kernel module and put in the
IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH
directive.

I then ran the installer script and everything went well until the end
where, as usual, depmod wouldn't run, but, I overrode that and things
went to completion.

When I try to install the module with insmod -f, I get the error listed
in the title of this letter.

I am stumped for now.

Any suggestions welcome.

Joel




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Re: insmod error: Couldn't find kernel version module was compiledfor:SOLVED

2003-09-01 Thread Joel Hammer
Fudgettaboutit.

I hunted around a bit and found a module in /lib/modules/.../video  that was
placed there by the nvidia installer script. I insmod'ed that one and
it worked. I had been trying to insmod a likely sounding module placed
in the target directory by the installer.

 PROBLEM SOLVED

My Gforce FX 5200 is looking good.

It took only about 6 to 8 hours to get this card installed.

Doom and quake look great.  Now that I understand what I am doing with
this thang, I may get a couple of more for my lindows boxes. Nvidia
deserves a lot of respect and support from linux users.

Now, of course, the question arises, do I have to do this all for the other
kernels I boot on this machine? I'll have to find out someday.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

Joel


On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 09:57:43AM -0400, Joel Hammer wrote:
 This was the video card thread, but I have made great progress.  I found
 that if you use a -keep option with the installer script, it saves
 everything, including the instructions, so you can fiddle with whatever.
 
 I tracked down the Makefile for building the kernel module and put in the
 IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH
 directive.
 
 I then ran the installer script and everything went well until the end
 where, as usual, depmod wouldn't run, but, I overrode that and things
 went to completion.
 
 When I try to install the module with insmod -f, I get the error listed
 in the title of this letter.
 
 I am stumped for now.
 
 Any suggestions welcome.
 
 Joel
 
 
 
 
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Re: insmod error: Couldn't find kernel version module was compiledfor

2003-09-01 Thread Joel Hammer
I am using 2.4.5-win4lin.

Joel

On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 07:18:01AM -0700, Net Llama! wrote:
 Out of sheer curiosity, which kernel version are you using?
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Re: insmod error: Couldn't find kernel version module was compiledfor:SOLVED

2003-09-01 Thread Ken Moffat
Joel Hammer wrote:

Fudgettaboutit.

I hunted around a bit and found a module in /lib/modules/.../video  that was
placed there by the nvidia installer script. I insmod'ed that one and
it worked. I had been trying to insmod a likely sounding module placed
in the target directory by the installer.
PROBLEM SOLVED
 

i wonder if the lin4win extensions are the problem. I've used the nvidia 
installer with no problems on several installs. The script prompts for 
several choices, and if all appropriate headers are not present it will 
tell you. The only thing I've had to do is edit XF86Config.

Maybe you'll have better luck on a stock kernel on lindows.

I use Libranet, debian based, and it installs no problem. I've also 
installed on Debian 3.0, Slackware 9, and knoppix 3.2.

Libranet has it built in to the install process.

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Re: insmod error: Couldn't find kernel version module was compiledfor

2003-09-01 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Joel Hammer:
 This was the video card thread, but I have made great progress.  I found
 that if you use a -keep option with the installer script, it saves
 everything, including the instructions, so you can fiddle with whatever.

Yup. That used to be in the instructions NVIDIA supplied.

 I tracked down the Makefile for building the kernel module and put in the
 IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH
 directive.

Ah. You can also do make -DIGNORE_CC_MISMATCH blah.

 I then ran the installer script and everything went well until the end
 where, as usual, depmod wouldn't run, but, I overrode that and things
 went to completion.
 
 When I try to install the module with insmod -f, I get the error listed
 in the title of this letter.

If you don't have a properly configured kernel, you'll get this error.

Kurt
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Re: Video card

2003-09-01 Thread Kenyon Cox
Greetings:

Having just spent NiNe HoUrS on my Deb 3.0 testing/unstable box
w/Nvidia, after I got too ambitious with an apt-get upgrade and hosed my
X, maybe this'll help.

I specified gcc-2.95 in my kernel (2.4.21) Makefile, and changed the gcc
symlink to gcc-2.95 just for good measure.  The gcc-3.3 was giving me
module errors out the wazoo.  A little Google search determined that it
gives lots of other folks errors, as well.

If you'll look in /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel-1.0.4349/debian/rules 
line 119 or so, you'll find that it will set the IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH for
you.  I was still getting the error message during compile, but it
loaded (finally) anyway.

I could get the nvidia module to compile and to load, but I couldn't get
X (no screen error) until I dpkg'd the GLX stuff, as well.

HTH,

Kenyon

 So, until I can find which Makefile into which I have to insert the
 IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH directive, I appear to be stuck.
 
 Joel

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Re: insmod error: Couldn't find kernel version module was compiledfor:SOLVED

2003-09-01 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Joel Hammer:
 Fudgettaboutit.
 
 I hunted around a bit and found a module in /lib/modules/.../video  that was
 placed there by the nvidia installer script. I insmod'ed that one and
 it worked. I had been trying to insmod a likely sounding module placed
 in the target directory by the installer.

Yup, that would do it.

  PROBLEM SOLVED

Kewl. 
 
 My Gforce FX 5200 is looking good.

These cards rock.

 It took only about 6 to 8 hours to get this card installed.
 
 Doom and quake look great.  Now that I understand what I am doing with
 this thang, I may get a couple of more for my lindows boxes. Nvidia
 deserves a lot of respect and support from linux users.

They get it. If only they would make the source code available...
But, as you say, NVIDIA deserve kudos for troubling to make binaries
available.

 Now, of course, the question arises, do I have to do this all for the other
 kernels I boot on this machine? I'll have to find out someday.

Probably.

Kurt
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Re: insmod error: Couldn't find kernel version module was compiledfor

2003-09-01 Thread Net Llama!
On 09/01/03 07:40, Joel Hammer wrote:

I am using 2.4.5-win4lin.

Joel

On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 07:18:01AM -0700, Net Llama! wrote:

Out of sheer curiosity, which kernel version are you using?
urgl.  2.4.5?  win4lin?  you are aware that a kernel that hold had some 
very severe filesystem corruption problems, right?

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New Step

2003-09-01 Thread Nobody
Thanks to James McDonald we now have a Step on Using GRUB to load Windows XP located 
on a second hard disk.
You may find this step at http://www.linux-sxs.org/administration/grubxp.html
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Re: More SCO Humor

2003-09-01 Thread Tom Condon
On Sunday 31 August 2003 14:16, Kurt Wall carved in granite:
  Excellent!  But I have to wonder about the cubicle
  picture - what happens if someone in the middle of a row
  suddenly has to go to the loo *really* bad?

 Pee in a cup?

Which solves both the speed problem and the drug testing 
problem at once.  This looks distinctly like Sundstrand when 
I worked there.  You get in 5 minutes of real work, then you 
start heading for the can.  By the time you get back to your 
desk you can work for another 5 minutes before it is time 
to start out again...  ;-})  And then they wonder why you 
don't get enough work done for the optimistic schedule they 
sold to the customers.


In Harmony's Way and In A Chord,

Tom  ;-})

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Re: OT Why Microsoft has to go ...

2003-09-01 Thread burns
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 12:48, Alma J Wetzker wrote:

 I think the point is that the patents are all the company really has and 
 M$ is stealling them.  I know that big money tends to play legal games 
 to get the things they want but this makes no sense.  The license should 
 cost less than the legal fees.  Plus, the bad publicity and already 
 being in legal trouble with the feds.  Somebody at M$ is clearly not 
 thinking.

Makes perfect sense from Bill's point of view. This is precisely what he
has done to build his business since he was a marginal hack programmer
working in a shed in New Mexico. Where do you think 90% of the ideas
that now make up Windows came from?
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Re: OT Why Microsoft has to go ...

2003-09-01 Thread Alma J Wetzker
burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01 Sep 2003 08:53:06 -0400
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 02:33, Roger Oberholtzer wrote:

On 30 Aug 2003 21:32:16 -0400
burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nothing fishy here. The patents are intellectual property and assets of
the corporation. As such they are the property of the investors and the
creditors. Selling them to your wife is illegal in this instance.
Not if the investors agree to do so. How many can there be in a company of
two employees?
They would still have to get the OK from their investors - that IP is
probably what their investors bought into in the first place. A company
of 2 people has no other value.
I think the point is that the patents are all the company really has and 
M$ is stealling them.  I know that big money tends to play legal games 
to get the things they want but this makes no sense.  The license should 
cost less than the legal fees.  Plus, the bad publicity and already 
being in legal trouble with the feds.  Somebody at M$ is clearly not 
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Re: More SCO Humor

2003-09-01 Thread joel
Well, there is an obvious solution. It would require a lot of plumbing, 
though. But, it works well enuf for chickens in cages.

Joel

Tom Condon wrote:

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I worked there.  You get in 5 minutes of real work, then you 
start heading for the can.  By the time you get back to your 
desk you can work for another 5 minutes before it is time 
to start out again...  ;-})  And then they wonder why you 
don't get enough work done for the optimistic schedule they 
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Re: Test

2003-09-01 Thread Bill Campbell
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003, Keith Antoine wrote:
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:54 pm, burns wrote:
 On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 21:41, Keith Antoine wrote:
  On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:44 am, burns wrote:
   Test, over
 
  Hell, I did not even know it had begun! Waht was I tested for?

 sexually transmitted diseases. You failed and now will have to study
 much harder for the re-test.

Thats no bloody good, I lost the instruction sheet.

Put tab A in slot B, Repeat.

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Re: More SCO Humor

2003-09-01 Thread ronnie gauthier
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:59:23 -0400 - Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the
following
Re: Re: More SCO Humor

Quoth Bill Campbell:
 On Sun, Aug 31, 2003, Kurt Wall wrote:
 Quoth burns:
 
  Re: the 2 guys working on the RF MAST - UNLESS I'm mistaken, that was
  the mast on Tower 2 of what used to be the World Trade Center... Sad and
  yet fascinating.
 
 That's what I thought, too. Then I thought that someone had to be *above*
 those guys to take the picture. Then I got vertigo. Again.

You can see their left foot.
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Sobig

2003-09-01 Thread Collins Richey
Wow!  I bet Doug is going to be so happy when he succeeds in training
his spam filters to recognize Sobig grin.

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worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for.


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Undeliverable mail: Re: Your application

2003-09-01 Thread MAILER-DAEMON
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Re: More SCO Humor

2003-09-01 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth ronnie gauthier:
 On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:59:23 -0400 - Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the
 following
  
  That's what I thought, too. Then I thought that someone had to be *above*
  those guys to take the picture. Then I got vertigo. Again.
 
 You can see their left foot.

Sho 'nuff!

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Re: Enscript question: Making page colored

2003-09-01 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Joel Hammer:
  \shade{val}
 
 I tried this and didn't quite get what I wanted. So, I went back to

I'm not surprised. No Postscript coder am I.

 basics (really) and read the first chapter about postscript again and
 then looked at the postscript which enscript generates. There is a Box
 routine generated in enscript's standard postscript output, so, this text
 file gives a nice blue page on which are displayed two small pictures
 (jpg's) side by side (converted to encapsulated postscript by convert).
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0 0 1 setrgbcolor 5 5 500 760 Box fill grestore}
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] n ]{junk1.epsi}
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] x3i y-1]{junk2.epsi}

Excellent stuff, Joel. Thanks!

 enscript is run with this command:
 
 enscript -o junk.ps junk.txt -e 
 
 If you want to get this to work, of course, you have to generate the
 control code for zero, not the two characters [EMAIL PROTECTED] On my keyboard 
 [cntrl v][0]
 (followed by your next character or space) works. At least in vi in insert
 mode.

Kurt
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linux-users list passing on virii

2003-09-01 Thread Gerry Doris
For what it's worth I sent a virus passed to me through this mailing list
to Antony Stone on the MailScanner list.  He is running several virus
scanners.  He confirmed that ClamAV doesn't find this virus.  In fact,
here's the pertinent part of his reply message.

 It got picked up as Sobig.F by Bitdefender, F-Prot, Inoculan and McAfee,
 which on my system means that it got missed by ClamAV, Kaspersky and
 NOD32 (I run several antivirus engines on a single machine for exactly
 this sort of comparison!).

On my system I use MailScanner to run F-Prot, TrendMicro, and ClamAV.  
Only ClamAV is missing the virus.  If I remember correctly the list is 
just using ClamAV.

-- 
Gerry

The lyfe so short, the craft so long to learne  Chaucer


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Report to Recipient(s)

2003-09-01 Thread UNMCNOTES02 . UNMC . EDU/Servers/UNEBR%UNIVERSITY_OF_NEBRASKA




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The file mime001.txt (details.pif) you received was infected with the
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Test

2003-09-01 Thread burns
Test, over
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