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Undeliverable mail: Re: Your application

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SuSE 8.2 questions

2003-09-03 Thread Roger Oberholtzer

Just a few:

1. It seems the sound system in 8.2 is ALSA. As I understand it, ALSA
always starts with sound muted. When I run alsamixer, it seems that SuSE is
turning off the mute. However, I get no sound. It seems all drivers for my
sound card are loaded. Previously on this hardware OSS worked. The ESS
Maestro chip set id supported by ALSA. Any pointers?

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Re: SuSE 8.2 questions (ignore previous...)

2003-09-03 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
I solved it. I turned on my brain. Ignore question.

On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 12:02:29 +0200
Roger Oberholtzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Just a few:
 
 1. It seems the sound system in 8.2 is ALSA. As I understand it, ALSA
 always starts with sound muted. When I run alsamixer, it seems that SuSE
 is turning off the mute. However, I get no sound. It seems all drivers for
 my sound card are loaded. Previously on this hardware OSS worked. The ESS
 Maestro chip set id supported by ALSA. Any pointers?


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Re: More SCO Humor

2003-09-03 Thread Tom Condon
On Saturday 30 August 2003 21:04, Kurt Wall carved in granite:
 Here: http://www.kurtwerks.com/humor/index.html

 Kurt

Regarding the picture of the workers on the RF tower:  I've 
just found an old copy of this that tells that the picture 
was taken by Vincent Laforet of the New York Times.  It was 
part of a bunch of working conditions pictures I received 
in January.


In Harmony's Way and In A Chord,

Tom  ;-})

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Registered Linux User #154358

Plain Text Emails Don't Spread Virii


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OT Test[ing again] - No need to reply

2003-09-03 Thread Jean Sagi
Test

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ADMIN: rsync access restricted

2003-09-03 Thread Douglas J Hunley
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As of 08:30 this morning (Sept 3) rsync access to the SxS site has been 
revoked for anyone not running an official mirror. If you were using rsync to 
maintain your own local copy, contact me directly so we can work it out. 
Thanks.
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Hardware, n.: The parts of a computer system that can be kicked.
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Re: Why all this- Undeliverable Mail

2003-09-03 Thread Douglas J Hunley
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Keith Antoine shocked and awed us all by speaking:
 Doug,
 I am getting virii sent to me, I have actually lost count of how many times
 I have received a copy. All I seem to be doing at the moment is deleting
 mail.

you're getting actual copies of the virus from this list? if so, we need to 
look into this asap
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http://doug.hunley.homeip.net  http://www.linux-sxs.org

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Re: ADMIN: viruses solved (I think)

2003-09-03 Thread Douglas J Hunley
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James McDonald shocked and awed us all by speaking:
 In your new sxs on sendmail the echo statements have the backtick,quote
 combination as you mentioned.

 Is there any shell or programming significance to this i.e. does the
 shell parse `' combinations in a special way... I know the var=backtick
 command backtick says assign the out-put of this command to the
 variable. So is the backtick,quote combo special also?

you're talking about the config.mc file? that's just how sendmail does shit. 
it encloses things in left tickvalueright tick .. which means that my 
echo statements need to escape the left tick or the shell tries to 
interpret things instead of just echoing them

did that answer your question, or are we missing each other?
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In 1665 Issac Newton became discouraged when he fell up a flight of stairs.
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Kwrite is taking over my desktop

2003-09-03 Thread bof
When I load KDE, I am finding that no less than four copies of Kwrite 
are also starting. Nothing I am doing will stop this.

I have set Control Center Session Manager to confirm and save sessions 
on logout. I have then closed all the instances of Kwrite that were 
running, saved the session and quit KDE. When I restart it, kdeinit 
reloads the same four copies of Kwrite.

At this stage I am not sure what else to do, because I do not know what 
or where Kwrite is saving itself. I've looked in both the global and my 
local .kde/share/config directory for the kwrite files and see nothing 
in them that would autostart it.

What need I do to stop this -- it is very annoying.

BOF

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Re: OT Test[ing again] - No need to reply

2003-09-03 Thread Douglas J Hunley
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Jean Sagi shocked and awed us all by speaking:
 Test

did my hacking work? or did you not receive this email back?
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I can see your point, but I still think you're full of crap.
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Re: Kwrite is taking over my desktop

2003-09-03 Thread Myles Green
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 07:40, bof wrote:
 When I load KDE, I am finding that no less than four copies of Kwrite 
 are also starting. Nothing I am doing will stop this.
 
 I have set Control Center Session Manager to confirm and save sessions 
 on logout. I have then closed all the instances of Kwrite that were 
 running, saved the session and quit KDE. When I restart it, kdeinit 
 reloads the same four copies of Kwrite.
 
 At this stage I am not sure what else to do, because I do not know what 
 or where Kwrite is saving itself. I've looked in both the global and my 
 local .kde/share/config directory for the kwrite files and see nothing 
 in them that would autostart it.
 
 What need I do to stop this -- it is very annoying.
 

I haven't used KDE in quite a while now but:

You might try moving or renaming your ~/.kde directory and then, after
re-login copying over your previous config files from your moved/renamed
~/.kde to the newly created directory. Copy one file at a time if you
want to see which file is the offender.

HTH

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Re: Kwrite is taking over my desktop

2003-09-03 Thread bof
Myles Green wrote:

I haven't used KDE in quite a while now but:

You might try moving or renaming your ~/.kde directory and then, after
re-login copying over your previous config files from your moved/renamed
~/.kde to the newly created directory. Copy one file at a time if you
want to see which file is the offender
I forgot to mention that this problem is occuring under both RH 7.3 and 
RH 9.0.

BOF

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Re: Kwrite is taking over my desktop

2003-09-03 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Wednesday 03 September 2003 10:33 am, bof wrote:
 Myles Green wrote:
 I haven't used KDE in quite a while now but:
 
 You might try moving or renaming your ~/.kde directory and then,
  after re-login copying over your previous config files from your
  moved/renamed ~/.kde to the newly created directory. Copy one file
  at a time if you want to see which file is the offender

 I forgot to mention that this problem is occuring under both RH 7.3
 and RH 9.0.

 BOF

Sounds like you have icons in your 'autostart' for your desktop.  

They don't get in there automatically...   :-)

Look in ~/Desktop/Autostart   (although it's been a long time since I've 
played with this stuff.)



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That must be wonderful!  I dont understand it at all.

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Re: Kwrite is taking over my desktop

2003-09-03 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Wednesday 03 September 2003 10:33 am, bof wrote:
 Myles Green wrote:
 I haven't used KDE in quite a while now but:
 
 You might try moving or renaming your ~/.kde directory and then,
  after re-login copying over your previous config files from your
  moved/renamed ~/.kde to the newly created directory. Copy one file
  at a time if you want to see which file is the offender

 I forgot to mention that this problem is occuring under both RH 7.3
 and RH 9.0.

 BOF

Addition:  There also should be an 'Autostart' icon on your desktop.  
Click on it to see what's in there.



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Did you ever find out about Portsentry?

2003-09-03 Thread Linda McKinnon



Hi,
Saw your postings on this subject. I am 
experiencing the same thing. Was this software ever located? Is it 
dead?

Linda
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less is more

2003-09-03 Thread Tony Alfrey
Hey Doug, good job whatever you did with the linux-sxs server, I'm 
getting much much less mail crap now! 

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Re: Kwrite is taking over my desktop

2003-09-03 Thread bof
Bruce Marshall wrote:

There also should be an 'Autostart' icon on your desktop.  
Click on it to see what's in there.

No such icon. The Autostart directory under .kde is empty other than a 
file named .directory.

Under .kde/share/config/session there is a file 
kwin_117f010001021526542024928 that contains the following. 
I thought that this was where KDE stored its settings to restore a 
session under a new login, but I don't see anything here that looks like 
it would start Kwrite.

[LegacySession]
clientMachine1=localhost
command1=/usr/local/mozilla/mozilla-bin
count=1
[Session]
count=4
desktop1=1
desktop2=1
desktop3=4
desktop4=2
geometry1=0,744,1024,24
geometry2=0,0,1016,716
geometry3=0,0,1016,716
geometry4=0,0,1016,716
iconified1=false
iconified2=false
iconified3=false
iconified4=false
maximize1=0
maximize2=0
maximize3=3
maximize4=3
resourceClass1=kicker
resourceClass2=Glimmer
resourceClass3=navigator:browser
resourceClass4=mail:3pane
resourceName1=kicker
resourceName2=glimmer
resourceName3=Mozilla
resourceName4=Mozilla
restore1=0,0,0,0
restore2=0,0,1024,744
restore3=171,124,682,496
restore4=171,124,682,496
sessionId1=11c0a8010b0001062595218520001
sessionId2=11c0a8010b00010625952280008520007
sessionId3=
sessionId4=
shaded1=false
shaded2=false
shaded3=false
shaded4=false
skipPager1=false
skipPager2=false
skipPager3=false
skipPager4=false
skipTaskbar1=false
skipTaskbar2=false
skipTaskbar3=false
skipTaskbar4=false
staysOnTop1=true
staysOnTop2=false
staysOnTop3=false
staysOnTop4=false
sticky1=true
sticky2=false
sticky3=false
sticky4=false
windowRole1=Panel
windowRole2=
windowRole3=
windowRole4=
wmClientMachine1=localhost
wmClientMachine2=localhost
wmClientMachine3=localhost
wmClientMachine4=localhost
wmCommand1=kicker
wmCommand2=/usr/local/bin/glimmer
wmCommand3=/usr/local/mozilla/mozilla-bin
wmCommand4=/usr/local/mozilla/mozilla-bin


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Re: Kwrite is taking over my desktop

2003-09-03 Thread Aaron Grewell
bof wrote:
When I load KDE, I am finding that no less than four copies of Kwrite 
are also starting. Nothing I am doing will stop this.


I think this is KWrite trying to be 'helpful' and preloading itself for 
performance reasons.  IIRC KWrite is used as the built-in textfile 
viewer for KDE, so it gets used a lot.  To make it go away, try this:

Control Center
KDE Components
Service Manager
Find the box in the lower right where it says 'KWrite Daemon' and 
uncheck the 'use' box.  Then use the 'stop' button to stop the service.

I'm using SuSE, so YMMV.

HTH.
-Aaron
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Re: Re: OT Test[ing again] - No need to reply

2003-09-03 Thread Jean Sagi

I am receiving email now from the list.

Chucho!

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Subject: Re: OT Test[ing again] - No need to reply

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Jean Sagi shocked and awed us all by speaking:
 Test

did my hacking work? or did you not receive this email back?
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I can see your point, but I still think you're full of crap.
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Re: OT Test[ing again] - No need to reply

2003-09-03 Thread Collins Richey
On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 12:33:43 -0500
Jean Sagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I am receiving email now from the list.
 

Congratulations.  Now you may want to try your luck with Lotto!

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worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for.


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Re: Slow printing on RHL 9 (Solved! sort of...)

2003-09-03 Thread Tim Wunder
rather, I worked around the problem...
I set up a RAW, Networked CUPS (IPP) printer connected to my server, 
rather than the Networked JetDirect printer and now it prints fast. Must 
be the K6-2 processor is overmatched for running a PostScript CUPS 
printqueue...shrug

Thanks,
Tim
On 9/2/2003 4:42 PM, someone claiming to be Mike Reinehr wrote:

I couldn't find any information on the HP website, so first question is, is 
your HP2200 a postscript capable printer, or is it an HP PCL only printer?

If your HP2200 is post script capable, then your print driver should, 
essentially, just be passing the printfile raw to the printer -- and should 
go very fast.

Otherwise, the postscript has to first be translated into HP PCL which would 
go much more slowly.

If you do have a postscript capable printer, but the wrong CUPS driver, it's 
possible that the postscript is being converted to HP PCL unnecessarily.

cmr

On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:33 pm, you wrote:

OK... got back to this. Printing to a file goes quickly, using lpr to
print it to the printer from the local desktop machine, takes a LONG time.
The file is, um, large:
$ ll *.ps
-rw-r--r-- 1 tpw  adm   27365874 Sep  2 16:05 2003245149827.ps
For grins, I scp'd the .ps file to my Samba shared Home directory,
opened it with Windows' GhostScript and printed it to the same printer.
It went very quickly. :-(
The server creates a similar large file, although the example I have is
somewhat smaller:
# ll *.ps
-rw-rw-r-- 1 ddt  ddt   20719300 Sep  2 16:25 2003245149879.ps
So, I guess what I've determined is that the problem is with the RHL9
PC. I don''t know if it's CUPS, the driver, ghostscript, or what. Any
more ideas?
Thanks,
Tim
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Announce: XFS split patches for 2.4.22 (fwd)

2003-09-03 Thread Net Llama!
For those of you using XFS as your preferred filesystem, official XFS
patches for 2.4.22 were released earlier today.

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Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 14:26:35 +1000
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Subject: Announce: XFS split patches for 2.4.22

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ftp://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/download/patches/2.4.22.

For some time the XFS group have been producing split patches for XFS,
separating the core XFS changes from additional patches such as kdb,
acl, dmapi.  The split patches are released to the world with the hope
that developers and distributors will find them useful.

Read the README in each directory very carefully, the split patch
format has changed over a few kernel releases.  Any questions that are
covered by the README will be ignored.  There is even a 2.4.23/README
for the terminally impatient :).

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RE: Did you ever find out about Portsentry?

2003-09-03 Thread Jack Berger



Doug 
had a link to it somewhere on the SxS server at one time. I know the psionic 
links are dead.
I have 
a copy of the software if you can't find it anywhere else.
Contact me off-list via myemail if you need 
it.

-jhb-

  -Original Message-From: Linda McKinnon 
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  10:35 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Did you 
  ever find out about Portsentry?
  Hi,
  Saw your postings on this subject. I am 
  experiencing the same thing. Was this software ever located? Is it 
  dead?
  
  Linda
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Re: Why all this- Undeliverable Mail

2003-09-03 Thread Keith Antoine
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 11:11 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
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 Keith Antoine shocked and awed us all by speaking:
  Doug,
  I am getting virii sent to me, I have actually lost count of how many
  times I have received a copy. All I seem to be doing at the moment is
  deleting mail.

 you're getting actual copies of the virus from this list? if so, we need to
 look into this asap

BTW, they do seem to have stopped as of today will let you know if they 
continue, but yes they came from the list. I am only getting  undelivered 
mail notices now via the list, however that has dropped to 4 today.

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Re: ADMIN: rsync access restricted

2003-09-03 Thread burns
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 08:39, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 As of 08:30 this morning (Sept 3) rsync access to the SxS site has been 
 revoked for anyone not running an official mirror. If you were using rsync to 
 maintain your own local copy, contact me directly so we can work it out. 
 Thanks.

I don't think I need to ask (or know) why.
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RE: Did you ever find out about Portsentry?

2003-09-03 Thread burns
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 16:15, Jack Berger wrote:
 Doug had a link to it somewhere on the SxS server at one time. I know the psionic 
 links are dead.
 I have a copy of the software if you can't find it anywhere else.
 Contact me off-list via my email if you need it.
This is potentially very sad. I wonder what Cisco intends to do with
portsentry - bury it? or jazz it up with a fancy gui and market at a
price that no home user can afford?
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OT Will Microsoft crash the global economy?

2003-09-03 Thread Harry Giles
http://www.businessreform.com/Resource.php?ResourceID=1436

Interesting perspective, in my humble opinion.

Harry

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Re: less is more

2003-09-03 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Collins Richey:
 On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 09:24:56 -0700
 Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hey Doug, good job whatever you did with the linux-sxs server, I'm 
  getting much much less mail crap now! 
 
 Hey, you don't get the best group without the best webmaster!

Ayup.

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Re: less is more

2003-09-03 Thread Shawn Tayler

Here!  Here!

On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 20:08:26 -0400 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
professed:

 Quoth Collins Richey:
  On Wed, 3 Sep 2003 09:24:56 -0700
  Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Hey Doug, good job whatever you did with the linux-sxs server, I'm 
   getting much much less mail crap now! 
  
  Hey, you don't get the best group without the best webmaster!
 
 Ayup.
 
 iKurt
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Re: ADMIN: rsync access restricted

2003-09-03 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth burns:
 On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 08:39, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
  
  As of 08:30 this morning (Sept 3) rsync access to the SxS site has been 
  revoked for anyone not running an official mirror. If you were using rsync to 
  maintain your own local copy, contact me directly so we can work it out. 
  Thanks.
 
 I don't think I need to ask (or know) why.

Trying to nail down problems with rsync between the mothership and
the mirrors. Nothing nefarious or untoward going on.

Kurt
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Re: Did you ever find out about Portsentry?

2003-09-03 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth burns:
 On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 16:15, Jack Berger wrote:
  Doug had a link to it somewhere on the SxS server at one time. I know the psionic 
  links are dead.
  I have a copy of the software if you can't find it anywhere else.
  Contact me off-list via my email if you need it.
 This is potentially very sad. I wonder what Cisco intends to do with
 portsentry - bury it? or jazz it up with a fancy gui and market at a
 price that no home user can afford?

For the time begin, they seem to have buried it.

Kurt
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Re: ADMIN: rsync access restricted

2003-09-03 Thread burns
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 22:18, Kurt Wall wrote:

 Trying to nail down problems with rsync between the mothership and
 the mirrors. Nothing nefarious or untoward going on.


Ahh. I am just naturally suspicious of r-services (comes with the job).

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Re: Announce: XFS split patches for 2.4.22 (fwd)

2003-09-03 Thread Kurt Wall
Quoth Net Llama!:
 For those of you using XFS as your preferred filesystem, official XFS
 patches for 2.4.22 were released earlier today.

Outstanding. I've been waiting for the 2.4.22 refresh. Thanks, Llama.

Kurt
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Re: ADMIN: rsync access restricted

2003-09-03 Thread Bill Campbell
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003, burns wrote:
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 22:18, Kurt Wall wrote:

 Trying to nail down problems with rsync between the mothership and
 the mirrors. Nothing nefarious or untoward going on.


Ahh. I am just naturally suspicious of r-services (comes with the job).

There's no relationship between rsync and the berserkely ``r'' commands
beyond the first letter of the name.

Bill
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