Re: test

2003-10-09 Thread James McDonald
ronnie gauthier wrote:

anyone home?
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Just got home but I was at work about 15 mins ago. But glad to be home now.

But did notice about 24 hours ago the list would receive the mails but 
they werent being sent out.

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Re: Greylisting

2003-10-09 Thread David A. Bandel
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:54:33 -0400
Wil McGilvery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was reading this article on greylisting and I find the premise to be
 interesting.
 
 http://projects.puremagic.com/greylisting/
 
 Has anyone tried greylisting? Any experiences worth sharing?


Ok, I do now have an experience to share on grey listing!

I just sent someone a message who uses grey listing.  Four hours later
they received the message.  About six hours after that they replied to
me.  Their message bounced.

What happened:
When they e-mailed me, milter-sender connected back to them.  Their
grey-listing software sent back an administratively prohibited message. 
milter-sender tried again but got the same reply so it decided the
address either didn't exist or was mailbox full and BOUNCE!

Two anti-spam programs working at cross purposes.  So unless one of us
manually white-lists the other, we'll never be able to correspond.

Ciao,

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Re: error compiling lilo from source

2003-10-09 Thread M.W. Chang
I missed the long thread. I guess I should try older versions.
I am still using the old glibc-2.2.1 that came with COL 3.1
Net Llama! wrote:
probe.c:250:1: directives may not be used inside a macro argument
probe.c:249:15: unterminated argument list invoking macro printf
probe.c: In function `notice':
probe.c:256: parse error before string constant
/usr/include/sys/stat.h: At top level:
geometry.h:67: warning: array `max_partno' assumed to have one element
make: *** [probe.o] Error 1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: lilo-22.5.7.2 rpm -qf /usr/include/sys/stat.h
glibc-devel-2.2.1-3
LILO is very sensitive to the gcc, glibc  binutils versions that you have
installed.  Some quick googling suggests that the version of gcc or glibc
could cause the error that you're seeing.  Interestingly, someone posted
the same error here:
http://freshmeat.net/projects/lilo/?topic_id=139
my money is on glibc.

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Re: Maximum Memory in Linux

2003-10-09 Thread M.W. Chang
are these options available from make menuconfig?

James McDonald wrote:
 # CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM is not set
 CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y
 # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set
 
 The standard /boot/config-2.4.20-8 contains the above settings which is 
 fine what your problem is
 

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Re: Maximum Memory in Linux

2003-10-09 Thread M.W. Chang
forget it. I found it.

M.W. Chang wrote:

 are these options available from make menuconfig?
 
 James McDonald wrote:
 # CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM is not set
 CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y
 # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set
 
 The standard /boot/config-2.4.20-8 contains the above settings which is 
 fine what your problem is
 
 

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Re: Greylisting

2003-10-09 Thread burns
On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 07:36, David A. Bandel wrote:

 
 Two anti-spam programs working at cross purposes.  So unless one of us
 manually white-lists the other, we'll never be able to correspond.

Greylisting, in general, and especially if widely adopted and
imperfectly implemented, has the potential to break the internet.
Basically I see this and other forms of midstream vigilanteism as being
the 'chemotherapy' of spam... it can discourage spam, but it also kills
healthy mail in the process.

Don't get me wrong - spam is abuse and spammers are a sleazy lower
life-form. But this isn't the answer.

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Re: Maximum Memory in Linux

2003-10-09 Thread Net Llama!
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, M.W. Chang wrote:
 are these options available from make menuconfig?

Yes.  I'm not aware of any options that aren't.


 James McDonald wrote:
  # CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM is not set
  CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y
  # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set
 
  The standard /boot/config-2.4.20-8 contains the above settings which is
  fine what your problem is
 



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Re: Importing mutt aliases into Netscape 7

2003-10-09 Thread joel
Thanks.
I exported my current address book to ldif, studied that format, then 
ran this script against my mutt aliases, and it actually worked. I 
attach it here in case anyone would fine it useful.

This is quick and dirty, YMMV.

s/alias /dn: cn\=/
s//,mail\=/
s///
s/ ,/,/
s/$/\nobjectclass: top/
s/$/\nobjectclass: person/
s/$/\nobjectclass: organizationalPerson/
s/$/\nobjectclass: inetOrgPerson/
s/$/\nobjectclass: mozillaAbPersonObsolete/
s/\(^dn: cn\=\)\([^,]*\)\(.*\)/\1\2\3\ncn: \2/
s/\(.*mail\=\)\([^\n]*\)\(.*\)/\1\2\3\nmail: \2/
s/$/\nmodifytimestamp: 0Z\n/
Joel

Kurt Wall wrote:

Quoth Joel Hammer:
 

Does anyone know of a way to import addresses from a text file like mutt 
aliases into a more convoluted file like the abook of mozilla?
Or,failing that, is there a simple explanation somewhere of the abook 
data format?
   

http://www.mozilla.org/mailnews/arch/index.html

Kurt
 

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Re: FrontPage 2002 extension and Redhat 9

2003-10-09 Thread vu pham




Net Llama! wrote:

  On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Vu Pham wrote:
  
  
I am installing Frontpage extenstion on Redhat 9 with apache 1.3.28, and get
the following error:

Creating web http://.
./fp_install.sh: line 2237:  5544 Segmentation fault
${FPDIR}/bin/owsadm.exe -o install -p $port $web $config -u $admin $chown -m
""
ERROR:  / installation failed.
Hit enter to continue

Does anybody experience this problem and how did you fix it ?

  
  
My best guess is its related to the NPTL stuff in the RH9 kernel.  Have
you tried exporting LD_KERNEL_ASSUME=2.2.5 first?

  

Thanks. I've just tried LD_KERNEL_ASSUME and export it, but still have
the same problem.

Vu




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Re: question

2003-10-09 Thread Rick Sivernell
On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 22:44:43 -0400
dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 quoth Rick Sivernell:
 
 | DEP  your right that if no print she will not be totally happy.
 |
 | Good news here - last weekend we had our 1st Sat computer sale. I
 | bought 2 scsi HP6100c scanners for $5.00 total. I have one on wife's
 | machine and suse setit up and scanned. 
 
 wait a minute here. i thought the issue was getting stuff inside the 
 computer to come out and appear on paper -- but what you've done is get 
 stuff to jump off the paper and go inside the computer. which is kind 
 of like a radio station where they can only listen to the radio, not 
 broadcast . . .
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neat trick, especialy for 2 scanners for 5 dollarsg.
1 for her  1 for me.

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Re: strange problem with checkinstall and spamassassin

2003-10-09 Thread M.W. Chang
I found the reason. it's the apache-toolbox that created a redhat
directory in /usr/src. checkinstall's script scanned the redhat
directory first before OpenLInux. I removed the directory and everything
is fine now.

M.W. Chang wrote:

 I don't have the error with other packages. that's really strange
 
 Federico Voges wrote:
 
error: cannot open file
/usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386/Mail-SpamAssassin-2.60-1.i386.
rpm: No such file or directory

why would there be a redhat word when I am using caldera OpenLinux system?
 Nope, it's just checkinstall assuming you're using redhat. 
 
 You have two options:
 A.- Modify checkinstall to use the correct directory
 B.- Symlink /usr/src/redhat to /usr/src/OpenLinux
 

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Updated Step

2003-10-09 Thread Nobody
M W Chang has just updated http://www.linux-sxs.org/internet_serving/proftpd.html to 
incorporate the following:
Updated for latest version
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RE: Greylisting

2003-10-09 Thread Wil McGilvery
There's an oops!

Regards,

Wil McGilvery
Manager
Lynch Digital Media Inc

 

416-744-7949
416-716-3964 (cell)
1-866-314-4678
416-744-0406  FAX
www.LynchDigital.com


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From: David A. Bandel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 7:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Greylisting

On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:54:33 -0400
Wil McGilvery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was reading this article on greylisting and I find the premise to be
 interesting.
 
 http://projects.puremagic.com/greylisting/
 
 Has anyone tried greylisting? Any experiences worth sharing?


Ok, I do now have an experience to share on grey listing!

I just sent someone a message who uses grey listing.  Four hours later
they received the message.  About six hours after that they replied to
me.  Their message bounced.

What happened:
When they e-mailed me, milter-sender connected back to them.  Their
grey-listing software sent back an administratively prohibited message. 
milter-sender tried again but got the same reply so it decided the
address either didn't exist or was mailbox full and BOUNCE!

Two anti-spam programs working at cross purposes.  So unless one of us
manually white-lists the other, we'll never be able to correspond.

Ciao,

David A. Bandel
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SCO Woes III: 6 weeks later. I still can't buy a license from SCO.

2003-10-09 Thread M. Drew Streib
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SCO Woes III: 6 weeks later. I still can't buy a license from SCO.
by Drew

It has been six weeks since my initial contact with SCO regarding getting
a license for my Linux appliance server business, and SCO's apathy towards
the sale is as great as it ever was. If I didn't know any better, I'd say
their sales department now has a well orchestrated circle of runarounds
to keep you from actually pinning anybody down.

I left off my last letter in this series with a phone call to my friendly
sales rep who had promised to call me back within days.

I never received a call back from that rep, and left them a couple more
friendly messages asking for information to no avail.

Feeling left out in the cold, I called the SCO main sales line and
asked to be routed to a sales person who could help me with buying Linux
server licenses. I was routed to a regional sales rep, whose voicemail
got a polite request for information, again with no response.

I called the main SCO sales line again and told them that I _really_
needed to talk to someone about a sale, as I was ready to purchase, and
couldn't find anyone to take my money. I was routed to _another_ sales
rep in my area, and since he was of course not immediately available,
I left another voicemail. This one at least called back. He didn't have
any Linux license information for me, but took my questions (including
how can I buy this now?) and promised me a callback. Sound familiar?

I didn't receive a callback with any answers, but I did receive an
email from this new rep telling me that the _original_ person I had
talked to would be contacting me within a couple days with answers.

It has been 6 days since my latest broken promise from SCO, and I'm
really not wondering why they are a doomed company, with the way they
treat their potential customers.

Once again, I have called that original SCO rep and requested information
and a followup on my original questions. This was all on voicemail of
course, since actually getting a SCO rep on the phone is apparently a task
worthy of a congressional medal.

I have a request of Linux (or really any) news organizations. Find two
or three of your best reporters and have them try, in the nicest way
possible, to buy a Linux license from SCO. I'm having absolutely
terrible luck, despite my most gracious attempts, to throw money at SCO
(in return, of course, for the famed license).

I can't believe that a sales force is this incompetent, or instead of
that possibility, that SCO could be so blatantly outright in their lying
about license availability.

Darl, reading this? Sell me a license. If it is in fact available, fire
your sales force for incompetence.

- -drew

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[linux-elitists] [SCO] Royce Associates?

2003-10-09 Thread Jonathan Corbet
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Today's fun SEC filing:

   
 http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1102542/90630403000292/scox.txt

It would appear that, as of September 30, Royce  Associates LLC holds over
1.4 million shares of SCO.  There are 13.5M shares outstanding, so Royce
now owns over 10% of the company.  That's also almost 20% of the 7.5M
shares said to be in circulation.  The acquisition of so many shares would
explain a lot about the company's stock price.

Google is not tremendously helpful in this case; they appear to be a
micro-cap mutual fund manager; they are owned by Legg Mason.  Anybody
know any more which might give some insight into why they bought so much of
this stock?

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Re: SCO Woes III: 6 weeks later. I still can't buy a license from SCO.

2003-10-09 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Thursday 09 October 2003 10:57 am, M. Drew Streib wrote:
 SCO Woes III: 6 weeks later. I still can't buy a license from SCO.
 by Drew

 It has been six weeks since my initial contact with SCO regarding
 getting a license for my Linux appliance server business, and SCO's
 apathy towards the sale is as great as it ever was. If I didn't know
 any better, I'd say their sales department now has a well orchestrated
 circle of runarounds to keep you from actually pinning anybody down.

 I left off my last letter in this series with a phone call to my
 friendly sales rep who had promised to call me back within days.

 I never received a call back from that rep, and left them a couple
 more friendly messages asking for information to no avail.

 Feeling left out in the cold, I called the SCO main sales line and
 asked to be routed to a sales person who could help me with buying
 Linux server licenses. I was routed to a regional sales rep, whose
 voicemail got a polite request for information, again with no
 response.

 I called the main SCO sales line again and told them that I _really_
 needed to talk to someone about a sale, as I was ready to purchase,
 and couldn't find anyone to take my money. I was routed to _another_
 sales rep in my area, and since he was of course not immediately
 available, I left another voicemail. This one at least called back. He
 didn't have any Linux license information for me, but took my
 questions (including how can I buy this now?) and promised me a
 callback. Sound familiar?

 I didn't receive a callback with any answers, but I did receive an
 email from this new rep telling me that the _original_ person I had
 talked to would be contacting me within a couple days with answers.

 It has been 6 days since my latest broken promise from SCO, and I'm
 really not wondering why they are a doomed company, with the way they
 treat their potential customers.

 Once again, I have called that original SCO rep and requested
 information and a followup on my original questions. This was all on
 voicemail of course, since actually getting a SCO rep on the phone is
 apparently a task worthy of a congressional medal.

 I have a request of Linux (or really any) news organizations. Find two
 or three of your best reporters and have them try, in the nicest way
 possible, to buy a Linux license from SCO. I'm having absolutely
 terrible luck, despite my most gracious attempts, to throw money at
 SCO (in return, of course, for the famed license).

 I can't believe that a sales force is this incompetent, or instead of
 that possibility, that SCO could be so blatantly outright in their
 lying about license availability.

 Darl, reading this? Sell me a license. If it is in fact available,
 fire your sales force for incompetence.

 -drew

Hasn't it occurred to you that they don't want to sell you a license 
because if their IP claims are proven false...  they could be charged 
with fraud??   It's just more smoke and mirrors.

And the news media could try buy a license, but they could more easily 
try to find someone who has a license.   In fact, next time you're on 
the phone, why don't you ask them to point you to a license holder.  
(but they will claim they can't because a privacy... and I can 
understand that if in fact they have sold a license)


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Re: FrontPage 2002 extension and Redhat 9

2003-10-09 Thread Aaron Grewell

My best guess is its related to the NPTL stuff in the RH9 kernel.  Have
you tried exporting LD_KERNEL_ASSUME=2.2.5 first?
 

Thanks. I've just tried LD_KERNEL_ASSUME and export it, but still have 
the same problem.
Have you downloaded the latest FPSE from MS?  The one that comes with 
the CD's is probably too old for use with RH9.

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about building sendmail from source

2003-10-09 Thread M.W. Chang
step 7.Build the sendmail daemon
# cd sendmail
# if [ ! -e /usr/share/man ] ; then ln -s /usr/man /usr/share/man; fi
# sh Build -f /etc/mail/site.config.m4  sh Build install
  * you should see '-DMILTER' periodically during the compile
step 10.The supporting tools are now built and installed
* cd ../.. (from /usr/src/sendmail-$version/cf/cf)
* sh Build  sh Build install
I used `checkinstall -si sh Build install` in both steps. Then I run rpm 
-qil the the two resultant packages, the sendmail daemon (and 3 other 
commands) was duplicated.

Could/should one just use step 10 (with modification to use sh Build -c 
-f /etc/mail/site.config.m4) install both the sendmail daemon and tools?

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RH9 and xedit

2003-10-09 Thread Net Llama!
Now that I've started to deploy RH9 on several boxes, the lack of xedit
has started to annoy me a lot.  I like xedit, because its a bare bones X
text editor.  Anyone know why RH9 doesn't include xedit (which i thought
was part of XFree86)?  Anyone know how i could get xedit without building
XFree86 from source?

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Re: SCO Woes III: 6 weeks later. I still can't buy a license from SCO.

2003-10-09 Thread Collins Richey
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:57:53 -0400 M. Drew Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] (by way of
Douglas J Hunley[EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

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 SCO Woes III: 6 weeks later. I still can't buy a license from SCO.
 by Drew
 

 
 I can't believe that a sales force is this incompetent, or instead of
 that possibility, that SCO could be so blatantly outright in their lying
 about license availability.
 
 Darl, reading this? Sell me a license. If it is in fact available, fire
 your sales force for incompetence.
 

I can certainly believe all of the above (incompetence+lying).  Darl would have
to fire himself first.

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Re: SCO Woes III: 6 weeks later. I still can't buy a license from SCO.

2003-10-09 Thread Shawn L Johnston
On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 11:22, Bruce Marshall wrote:
 On Thursday 09 October 2003 10:57 am, M. Drew Streib wrote:
 
  I have a request of Linux (or really any) news organizations. Find two
  or three of your best reporters and have them try, in the nicest way
  possible, to buy a Linux license from SCO. I'm having absolutely
  terrible luck, despite my most gracious attempts, to throw money at
  SCO (in return, of course, for the famed license).
 
  I can't believe that a sales force is this incompetent, or instead of
  that possibility, that SCO could be so blatantly outright in their
  lying about license availability.
 
 Hasn't it occurred to you that they don't want to sell you a license 
 because if their IP claims are proven false...  they could be charged 
 with fraud??   It's just more smoke and mirrors.

No, I don't think that its a concern over fraud. I think its more likely
that they've gutted their sales force. I called them last week about a
product and was unable to speak to a salesman. I finally got a call back
after 5 working days. Salesman seems helpful enough, but they're
unquestionably putting very little effort into selling products.


Shawn

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Re: RH9 and xedit

2003-10-09 Thread Net Llama!
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Michael Hipp wrote:
 Net Llama! wrote:

  Now that I've started to deploy RH9 on several boxes, the lack of xedit
  has started to annoy me a lot.  I like xedit, because its a bare bones X
  text editor.  Anyone know why RH9 doesn't include xedit (which i thought
  was part of XFree86)?  Anyone know how i could get xedit without building
  XFree86 from source?

 Did older versions of RH include it? Could you just copy it from an
 older one?

RH-7.3 does.  I know i could try copying the binary, but i'm just puzzled
as to why its missing.

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Re: RH9 and xedit

2003-10-09 Thread Tim Wunder
On 10/9/2003 1:13 PM, I believe that Net Llama! wrote:

On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Michael Hipp wrote:

Net Llama! wrote:


Now that I've started to deploy RH9 on several boxes, the lack of xedit
has started to annoy me a lot.  I like xedit, because its a bare bones X
text editor.  Anyone know why RH9 doesn't include xedit (which i thought
was part of XFree86)?  Anyone know how i could get xedit without building
XFree86 from source?
Did older versions of RH include it? Could you just copy it from an
older one?


RH-7.3 does.  I know i could try copying the binary, but i'm just puzzled
as to why its missing.
Hmmm...
FWIW, it's there in RHL 8.0.
/usr/X11R6/bin/xedit
$ rpm -qf /usr/X11R6/bin/xedit
XFree86-tools-4.2.1-21
Maybe you don't have XFree86-tools installed...

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Re: RH9 and xedit

2003-10-09 Thread Net Llama!
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Tim Wunder wrote:
 On 10/9/2003 1:13 PM, I believe that Net Llama! wrote:

  On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Michael Hipp wrote:
 
 Net Llama! wrote:
 
 
 Now that I've started to deploy RH9 on several boxes, the lack of xedit
 has started to annoy me a lot.  I like xedit, because its a bare bones X
 text editor.  Anyone know why RH9 doesn't include xedit (which i thought
 was part of XFree86)?  Anyone know how i could get xedit without building
 XFree86 from source?
 
 Did older versions of RH include it? Could you just copy it from an
 older one?
 
 
  RH-7.3 does.  I know i could try copying the binary, but i'm just puzzled
  as to why its missing.
 

 Hmmm...
 FWIW, it's there in RHL 8.0.
 /usr/X11R6/bin/xedit
 $ rpm -qf /usr/X11R6/bin/xedit
 XFree86-tools-4.2.1-21

 Maybe you don't have XFree86-tools installed...

$ rpm -q XFree86-tools
XFree86-tools-4.3.0-2

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X won't start

2003-10-09 Thread Allan Rabenau



I've somehow lost something which causes X not to 
start when I boot (from HD or from Boot Floppy). After all the normal boot 
messages, apparently X tries to start, but I get only the quick CL prompt, and 
then X appears to try to start again, then the prompt, over and over. 
Booting into linux 3 allows me to se in /var/log/XFree86.0.log the 
following:
 Could not init font path element 
unix/:7100, removing from list
 Fatal server error:
 Could not open default font 
'fixed'
I've reloaded X from the install CD's, to no 
avail. Can anyone give me any aid?
Thanks,
Al
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Re: X won't start

2003-10-09 Thread Net Llama!
Which distro is this?  I managed to cause similar horkage when i mesed up
permissions/onwership on a bunch of directories.  if you've got sshd
running on th ebox, you can try running _any_ X app remotely, which should
help to determine whether its X that is brooken, or something else.

On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Allan Rabenau wrote:

 I've somehow lost something which causes X not to start when I boot (from HD or from 
 Boot Floppy).  After all the normal boot messages, apparently X tries to start, but 
 I get only the quick CL prompt, and then X appears to try to start again, then the 
 prompt, over and over.  Booting into linux 3 allows me to se in 
 /var/log/XFree86.0.log the following:
 Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list
 Fatal server error:
 Could not open default font 'fixed'
 I've reloaded X from the install CD's, to no avail.  Can anyone give me any aid?
 Thanks,
 Al
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Re: RH9 and xedit

2003-10-09 Thread Collins Richey
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:30:09 -0400 (EDT) Net Llama! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Tim Wunder wrote:
  On 10/9/2003 1:13 PM, I believe that Net Llama! wrote:
 
   On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Michael Hipp wrote:
  
  Net Llama! wrote:
  
  
  Now that I've started to deploy RH9 on several boxes, the lack of xedit
  has started to annoy me a lot.  I like xedit, because its a bare bones X
  text editor.  Anyone know why RH9 doesn't include xedit (which i thought
  was part of XFree86)?  Anyone know how i could get xedit without building
  XFree86 from source?
  
  Did older versions of RH include it? Could you just copy it from an
  older one?
  
  
   RH-7.3 does.  I know i could try copying the binary, but i'm just puzzled
   as to why its missing.
  
 
  Hmmm...
  FWIW, it's there in RHL 8.0.
  /usr/X11R6/bin/xedit
  $ rpm -qf /usr/X11R6/bin/xedit
  XFree86-tools-4.2.1-21
 
  Maybe you don't have XFree86-tools installed...
 
 $ rpm -q XFree86-tools
 XFree86-tools-4.3.0-2
 


Can't help you with RedHat, but gentoo installs it as a standard part of
xfree-4.3.0-r2.

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Re: X won't start

2003-10-09 Thread Tim Wunder
On 10/9/2003 2:25 PM, I believe that Allan Rabenau wrote:

I've somehow lost something which causes X not to start when I boot
(from HD or from Boot Floppy).  After all the normal boot messages,
apparently X tries to start, but I get only the quick CL prompt, and
then X appears to try to start again, then the prompt, over and over.
Booting into linux 3 allows me to se in /var/log/XFree86.0.log the
following: Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from
list Fatal server error: Could not open default font 'fixed' I've
reloaded X from the install CD's, to no avail.  Can anyone give me
any aid? 


Sounds like the XFS daemon isn't running.
What's the output of
# /sbin/service xfs status
as root
or
$ ps -ax|grep xfs
as an ordinary user
Can you start X as a user from runlevel 3?

Regards,
Tim
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Re: X won't start

2003-10-09 Thread Allan Rabenau
I'm running RH9; ps ax|grep shows xfs running ans does /sbin/service xfs
status.  This is after I log in at run level 3 and operate CLI.
-Al


- Original Message - 
From: Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: X won't start


 On 10/9/2003 2:25 PM, I believe that Allan Rabenau wrote:

  I've somehow lost something which causes X not to start when I boot
  (from HD or from Boot Floppy).  After all the normal boot messages,
  apparently X tries to start, but I get only the quick CL prompt, and
  then X appears to try to start again, then the prompt, over and over.
  Booting into linux 3 allows me to se in /var/log/XFree86.0.log the
  following: Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from
  list Fatal server error: Could not open default font 'fixed' I've
  reloaded X from the install CD's, to no avail.  Can anyone give me
  any aid?


 Sounds like the XFS daemon isn't running.
 What's the output of
 # /sbin/service xfs status
 as root

 or
 $ ps -ax|grep xfs
 as an ordinary user

 Can you start X as a user from runlevel 3?

 Regards,
 Tim


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Re: SCO Woes III: 6 weeks later. I still can't buy a license from SCO.

2003-10-09 Thread burns
On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 12:22, Bruce Marshall wrote:

 Hasn't it occurred to you that they don't want to sell you a license 
 because if their IP claims are proven false...  they could be charged 
 with fraud??   It's just more smoke and mirrors.
 

Fraud is a criminal charge. It would only be fraud if it could be proven
that they had *intent* to defraud in full knowledge that they had no
valid claim to the IP. Proving that they just weren't mistaken (which so
far is not illegal) would be extremely difficult. 

Their *civil* liability, in the event they are proven wrong, is entirely
another matter.

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Re: X won't start

2003-10-09 Thread David A. Bandel
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:25:11 +0100
Allan Rabenau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've somehow lost something which causes X not to start when I boot
 (from HD or from Boot Floppy).  After all the normal boot messages,
 apparently X tries to start, but I get only the quick CL prompt, and
 then X appears to try to start again, then the prompt, over and over. 
 Booting into linux 3 allows me to se in /var/log/XFree86.0.log the
 following:
 Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list
 Fatal server error:
 Could not open default font 'fixed'

Yep, here's the problem.  X is looking for a font named 'fixed'.  You
need to regenerate your font directory.  Go into each font directory and
run mkfontdir.  Then try to restart X.

 I've reloaded X from the install CD's, to no avail.  Can anyone give
 me any aid? Thanks,
 Al
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RE: SCO Woes III: 6 weeks later. I still can't buy a license from SCO.

2003-10-09 Thread Condon Thomas A KPWA

  Hasn't it occurred to you that they don't want to sell you 
 a license 
  because if their IP claims are proven false...  they could 
 be charged 
  with fraud??   It's just more smoke and mirrors.
  
 
 Fraud is a criminal charge. It would only be fraud if it 
 could be proven
 that they had *intent* to defraud in full knowledge that they had no
 valid claim to the IP. Proving that they just weren't 
 mistaken (which so
 far is not illegal) would be extremely difficult. 
 
 Their *civil* liability, in the event they are proven wrong, 
 is entirely
 another matter.

Perhaps we'd best all start documenting our emotional stress and other
symptoms to support the class action suit they should be receiving as soon
as they are determined to be in error.  Hey, if someone can collect $10M
because you did not warning them that the hot coffee they just bought is
hot, you ought to be able to collect for this kind of #^%^, er, FUD.


In Harmony's Way and In A Chord,

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Re: recording wavs (or aiffs)

2003-10-09 Thread Squabsy
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 12:16:59 -0500, Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:

 If you could beg / borrow / steal :-) another sound card just for 
 temporary testing would be a logical next step.
 

Finally gave up on Knoppix when the hard drive installed version wouldn't
record at all !
(It didn't seem nearly as polished as SUSE either).
Bought myself a soundblaster 4.1 card for £20 installed it this eveing 
reinstalled suse and Audacity seems to be working fine haven't recorded a
full 30 mins yet, it's late  I'm too tired but so far everything looks
ok.
Why didn't I buy this 3 weeks ago !
I will report back tomorrow when If tried a full album.
Thanks for all your help. 
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Re: FrontPage 2002 extension and Redhat 9

2003-10-09 Thread Vu Pham

- Original Message - 
From: Aaron Grewell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: FrontPage 2002 extension and Redhat 9


 
 
 My best guess is its related to the NPTL stuff in the RH9 kernel.  Have
 you tried exporting LD_KERNEL_ASSUME=2.2.5 first?
 
   
 
  Thanks. I've just tried LD_KERNEL_ASSUME and export it, but still have 
  the same problem.
 
 Have you downloaded the latest FPSE from MS?  The one that comes with 
 the CD's is probably too old for use with RH9.

Yes, I downloaded the latest one from MS site. 

Thanks,

Vu

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Re: RH9 and xedit

2003-10-09 Thread James McDonald
Net Llama! wrote:

Now that I've started to deploy RH9 on several boxes, the lack of xedit
has started to annoy me a lot.  I like xedit, because its a bare bones X
text editor.  Anyone know why RH9 doesn't include xedit (which i thought
was part of XFree86)?  Anyone know how i could get xedit without building
XFree86 from source?
 

I started running redhat several months ago and have found that in their 
attempt to make the unified theme work. They have failed to include many 
packages that were in the Mandrake 9.1 install I had previously.

To compile mplayer mean't a search of the web for many supporting 
libraries that came standard with Mandrake.

So my opinion is that Redhat, in the quest for a simple easy to use 
interface has decided that you get one 'notepad' one 'calc' and blue 
curve. For the average user I suppose clicking on `Terminal' and getting 
a redhat chosen terminal is fine but for myself I like the option of 
trying everything and choosing a favourite. This has meant going to the 
web and basically having to install all the `missing' stuff, which 
strangely enough I enjoy because I learn more with each passing compile.

Querying the entire redhat XFree86 install shows nothing as far as xedit 
goes.

for i in `ls -1 RedHat/RPMS/XFree86-*`; do rpm -qp --list $i 2/dev/null 
| grep xedit ; done

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Re: RH9 and xedit

2003-10-09 Thread Net Llama!
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003, James McDonald wrote:
 To compile mplayer mean't a search of the web for many supporting
 libraries that came standard with Mandrake.

That wasn't my experience.  mplayer build on both of my RH9 systems
without a single problem.

 So my opinion is that Redhat, in the quest for a simple easy to use
 interface has decided that you get one 'notepad' one 'calc' and blue

That's not really true.  You still get tons of text editors (11 in my
count), and at least 4 calculators.


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Re: Greylisting

2003-10-09 Thread Matthew Carpenter
I had been giving that quite a bit of thought as well...

Doing some looking into Greylisting as well as Milter-Sender, I was considering that 
they would work opposite each other.  
Back to the drawing board.  Nothing is perfect.  I like a healthy combination of 
blacklisting and filtering.  We'll see if milter-sender or greylisting makes it on the 
testing table...  

On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 06:36:15 -0500
David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:54:33 -0400
 Wil McGilvery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I was reading this article on greylisting and I find the premise to be
  interesting.
  
  http://projects.puremagic.com/greylisting/
  
  Has anyone tried greylisting? Any experiences worth sharing?
 
 
 Ok, I do now have an experience to share on grey listing!
 
 I just sent someone a message who uses grey listing.  Four hours later
 they received the message.  About six hours after that they replied to
 me.  Their message bounced.
 
 What happened:
 When they e-mailed me, milter-sender connected back to them.  Their
 grey-listing software sent back an administratively prohibited message. 
 milter-sender tried again but got the same reply so it decided the
 address either didn't exist or was mailbox full and BOUNCE!
 
 Two anti-spam programs working at cross purposes.  So unless one of us
 manually white-lists the other, we'll never be able to correspond.
 
 Ciao,
 
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IFS variable in bash

2003-10-09 Thread Michael Hipp
I don't seem to understand the IFS variable in bash. I know it's the 
internal field separator and it defaults to SPACE TAB NEWLINE. But I 
want to set it to just NEWLINE.

I've tried \n '\n' and just \n all to no avail. Those mostly seem to 
change it to backslash enn. Surely there is some way to just set it to 
newline.

Thanks,
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Nvidia and kernel 2.4.6?

2003-10-09 Thread Ken Moffat
Anyone using kernel 2.4.6 with Nvidia drivers? Just wonder if it works
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Re: SCO Woes III: 6 weeks later. I still can't buy a license from SCO.

2003-10-09 Thread Matthew Carpenter
Who needs a salesforce where they are going?

On 09 Oct 2003 12:41:35 -0500
Shawn L Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No, I don't think that its a concern over fraud. I think its more likely
 that they've gutted their sales force. I called them last week about a
 product and was unable to speak to a salesman. I finally got a call back
 after 5 working days. Salesman seems helpful enough, but they're
 unquestionably putting very little effort into selling products.


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Re: IFS variable in bash

2003-10-09 Thread Matthew Carpenter
I show: IFS=$' \t\n'

Try IFS=$'\n'


On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 20:36:47 -0500
Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't seem to understand the IFS variable in bash. I know it's the 
 internal field separator and it defaults to SPACE TAB NEWLINE. But I 
 want to set it to just NEWLINE.
 
 I've tried \n '\n' and just \n all to no avail. Those mostly seem to 
 change it to backslash enn. Surely there is some way to just set it to 
 newline.
 
 Thanks,
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Re: Nvidia and kernel 2.4.6?

2003-10-09 Thread Matthew Carpenter
No but I'm using them with 2.4.20 from SuSE.

They're pretty good, but it took a while for them to get a good version, and there are 
still some tradeoffs (like switching to console mode doesn't scroll lines correctly 
for me).


On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 19:33:21 -0700
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 Anyone using kernel 2.4.6 with Nvidia drivers? Just wonder if it works
 Thanks.
 
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