Re: It seems there is no end to greed!
R. Quenett wrote: from Joel Hammer: --- I tried looking it up in Bartlett's, but couldn't find it so I'm not sure if it was Mark Twain or Will Rogers who said to the effect; We have the finest politicians money can buy. Probably this maxim respects no borders or ethnic groups? Bob ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: It seems there is no end to greed!
IIRC, about 90% live within 100km of the border. David Aikema - Original Message - From: Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, December 20, 2002 4:12 pm Subject: Re: It seems there is no end to greed! Are most Canadians within about an hour's drive of the US border? Joel On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 09:57:55AM -0800, David Aikema wrote: On December 20, 2002 08:49 am, Ted Ozolins wrote: I'm about a 15 minute drive from the Canada/US border. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: It seems there is no end to greed!
On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, Ted Ozolins wrote: After seeng posts here re efforts by the film and entertainment industry pushing for various laws to be passed south of the border, I didn't realize that there were simalar moves being pushed here in Canada. Well I finally realize that Canadian polititions are far mor corrupt than anything possible south of the border. If you doubt that then read the following. http://www.kelownacapnews.com/archive/2002/12/18/stories/7519_full.html?latest_date=2002/12/18 'Central Okanagan'?? :) Anyway, there's actually been talk of passing very similar legislation in the US (like a special tax on every CDR CDRW purchased), so greed has no boundary or nationality. -- ~~ Lonni J Friedman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step TyGeMo http://netllama.ipfox.com ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: It seems there is no end to greed!
On Friday 20 December 2002 02:34, ronnie gauthier wrote: I read it. Seems to me that at what they are charging as a tax to be given as compensation to recording artists... would allow you to record *any* music to media that was taxed, no matter the source. On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 21:18:23 -0800 - Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the following Re: It seems there is no end to greed! After seeng posts here re efforts by the film and entertainment industry pushing for various laws to be passed south of the border, I didn't realize that there were simalar moves being pushed here in Canada. Well I finally realize that Canadian polititions are far mor corrupt than anything possible south of the border. If you doubt that then read the following. There's still KaZaa. The company who owns it is incorporated on some obscure island in the Pacific that doesn't have copyright laws and the two elusive guys who have the source code for it have disappeared in Europe somewhere where even the record company's legal sharks or American courts can find them. Not that it would do the greed bags any good. KaZaA, unlike Napster recides on the users computer not a central computer server system. So, there's no way to shut it down except by breaking into your computer and erasing the music files. Something has authorized the entertainment to do, even if it does violate the 4th Amendment to the US Constitution. The only drawback with KaZaA, other than the vulnerability of swapping files, is that there is no Linux version of it. The thing is designed for MicroGreed, but if you run a dual boot system with MS and one of the newer Linux OSs like Mandrake 8.1, 8.2 or SuSE 7.2 you can access the music files on the MS partition with the bundled MP3 players like xxms. Who knows maybe KaZaA's developers willcome up with a Linux version. Lee ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: It seems there is no end to greed!
The support for it isn't perfect, but Kazaa Lite runs well enough under Wine to at least let you download a few songs (see winehq's application databvase for instructions) David Aikema - Original Message - From: Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, December 20, 2002 7:29 am Subject: Re: It seems there is no end to greed! The only drawback with KaZaA, other than the vulnerability of swapping files, is that there is no Linux version of it. The thing is designed for MicroGreed, but if you run a dual boot system with MS and one of the newer Linux OSs like Mandrake 8.1, 8.2 or SuSE 7.2 you can access the music files on the MS partition with the bundled MP3 players like xxms. Who knows maybe KaZaA's developers willcome up with a Linux version. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: It seems there is no end to greed!
Lee wrote: On Friday 20 December 2002 02:34, ronnie gauthier wrote: I read it. Seems to me that at what they are charging as a tax to be given as compensation to recording artists... would allow you to record *any* music to media that was taxed, no matter the source. There's still KaZaa. The company who owns it is incorporated on some obscure island in the Pacific that doesn't have copyright laws and the two elusive guys who have the source code for it have disappeared in Europe somewhere where even the record company's legal sharks or American courts can find them. Not that it would do the greed bags any good. KaZaA, unlike Napster recides on the users computer not a central computer server system. So, there's no way to shut it down except by breaking into your computer and erasing the music files. Something has authorized the entertainment to do, even if it does violate the 4th Amendment to the US Constitution. The only drawback with KaZaA, other than the vulnerability of swapping files, is that there is no Linux version of it. The thing is designed for MicroGreed, but if you run a dual boot system with MS and one of the newer Linux OSs like Mandrake 8.1, 8.2 or SuSE 7.2 you can access the music files on the MS partition with the bundled MP3 players like xxms. Who knows maybe KaZaA's developers willcome up with a Linux version. Lee Once this crap becomes a reality, I'll be in the news more often than not. I'll be openly crossing the border to purchase my recording media and I'll make damb sure that they know. I outright refuse to obey an illigal law nor do I have any intention of paying an illigal tarif. Hell, as it stand the federal government gets one third of my paycheck , 48% of my money everytime I put gas in my truck and the provincial/federal gets another 14.5% everytime I buy something. On top of all that, the user fees that underlie such basics as owning/renting a home, reduces my income even more. Now the same money grabbing b@#$ards expect me to subsidize a multi billion dollar industry. I think not! -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Powered by Slackware 8.1, sent with Mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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Net Llama! wrote: 'Central Okanagan'?? :) Yup (Kelowna) Westbank as the name implies lies on the westside of Okanagan lake across from Kelowna. Heck we are just a hop from the US border. Won't take much to hop over to pick up recording mediaG -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Powered by Slackware 8.1, sent with Mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On December 20, 2002 08:49 am, Ted Ozolins wrote: border. Won't take much to hop over to pick up recording mediaG You know, that might actually be legal. The following page (http://www.cpcc.ca/english/collPayment.htm - the people who administer this crap) notes that liability to pay the levy is triggered by first sale of the media in Canada. Of course, IANAL so my words should be taken with a grain of salt. I'm about a 15 minute drive from the Canada/US border. David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 08:37:48AM -0500, Net Llama! wrote: .. Anyway, there's actually been talk of passing very similar legislation in the US (like a special tax on every CDR CDRW purchased), so greed has no boundary or nationality. ``Government'' in our so-called Democracies consists of politicians gaining power by appealing to special interests who think they can benefit at somebody else's expense through the force of government (the quote below is not random this time :-). Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Freedom from prices is freedom from responsibility. You can simply pass laws, using the magic wand of government to satisfy your own desires at unspecified costs to be paid by others.'' -- Thomas Sowell Aug 2000 ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: It seems there is no end to greed!
Joel Hammer wrote: Are most Canadians within about an hour's drive of the US border? Not really, There are places that are over 12 to 14 hours steady driving just to get close.:) -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Powered by Slackware 8.1, sent with Mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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from Joel Hammer: Are most Canadians within about an hour's drive of the US border? Most Canadians are, but most of Canada isn't. :-) R -- http://www.quen.net Fix reason firmly in her seat and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there is one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear. --Thomas Jefferson ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: It seems there is no end to greed!
On December 19, 2002 09:18 pm, Ted Ozolins wrote: After seeng posts here re efforts by the film and entertainment industry pushing for various laws to be passed south of the border, I didn't realize that there were simalar moves being pushed here in Canada. Well I finally realize that Canadian polititions are far mor corrupt than anything possible south of the border. If you doubt that then read the following. http://www.kelownacapnews.com/archive/2002/12/18/stories/7519_full.html?lat est_date=2002/12/18 The levy has been around for at least a years already, it's simply expanding in 2003. IIRC, the current levy on CD-Rs is in the neighborhood of $0.20 CDN or so, and will be going up to $0.59 CDN. You may want to take a look at http://www.ccfda.ca/ for a little more information. I've already shipped letters off to my political representatives (maybe I should try the local papers as well... I haven't noticed any coverage of this in them). I've never been the biggest buyer of music CDs, but I've decided not to purchase those few that I might have, due to this levy increase. In any case, I'll be stocking up on some CD-RWs (I've got lots of CD-Rs left) before the year is up. David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
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David Aikema wrote: The levy has been around for at least a years already, it's simply expanding in 2003. IIRC, the current levy on CD-Rs is in the neighborhood of $0.20 CDN or so, and will be going up to $0.59 CDN. You may want to take a look at http://www.ccfda.ca/ for a little more information. I've already shipped letters off to my political representatives (maybe I should try the local papers as well... I haven't noticed any coverage of this in them). I've never been the biggest buyer of music CDs, but I've decided not to purchase those few that I might have, due to this levy increase. In any case, I'll be stocking up on some CD-RWs (I've got lots of CD-Rs left) before the year is up. David Aikema What really burns me is that Ottawa expects me to obey and honor our laws and our constitution, yet they introduce legislation that is in direct conflict with our constitution which guarantees that I can not be held responsible for someone else's action. Yet here they are penalizing me for crimes commited by others. Its a good life if we don't weaken :) -- Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C. Powered by Slackware 8.1, sent with Mozilla ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: It seems there is no end to greed!
I read it. Seems to me that at what they are charging as a tax to be given as compensation to recording artists... would allow you to record *any* music to media that was taxed, no matter the source. On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 21:18:23 -0800 - Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the following Re: It seems there is no end to greed! After seeng posts here re efforts by the film and entertainment industry pushing for various laws to be passed south of the border, I didn't realize that there were simalar moves being pushed here in Canada. Well I finally realize that Canadian polititions are far mor corrupt than anything possible south of the border. If you doubt that then read the following. ___ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc - http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
