Re: linux and laptops
> I've installed both COL 2.4 and SuSE 7.2 on an IBM Thinkpad. Both > installs went very well. > > You're biggest (and initial) concern will be to partition and get a > loader (grub I assume) in place without losing the Windows setup or > destroying something. > > To do this on my Thinkpad, I initially built a grub boot diskette and > installed COL 2.4 and used the boot diskette to test things out > (including booting into windows using Grub from the diskette) > > Once I had that working, I was free to write grub to tme MBR knowing > that I could still boot in from the boot diskette in case of problems. > > The install of SuSE 7.2 on the Thinkpad was probably the most > problem-free of the 5 installs I have done. No problem > > + Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI + > Thanks. I have 2 more questions though: 1) I want to go wireless, would I be better off waiting to load linux till I get the hardware? Not sure how hard it is to do it later. 2) Can linux deal with a cdrw/dvd combo drive? Thanks again, Vern ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: linux and laptops
Thanks On Sunday 28 October 2001 11:01 am, you wrote: > Today Vern W Heesch was heard saying: > > ->I just got a Sony vaio P3 laptop that came with windowsXP. It is my first > ->laptop. Has anyone had experience with putting linux on laptops? I would > like ->to make it a dual boot with Workstation 3.1. Is this possible? Does > linux ->work well on laptops? Any hints, tips and advise would be greatly > appreciated. > > > *** http://www.linux-laptop.net/ should help you in the right direction... > > > Cheers, > Zoran. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: who has suse 7.3
On Sun, 2001-10-28 at 17:16, Douglas J Hunley wrote: > Ian Marchak babbled on about: > > Douglas J Hunley wrote: > > > anyone? > > > > Losta people who live in Germany...not many on this side of the pond. > > I've been in touch with several software retailers and even they > > couldn't tel me when it would show up at their stores. > > well, according to SuSE, it shoulda shipped. when someone gets it, let me > know. please > -- > Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 > Admin: http://linux.nfAdmin: http://hunley.homeip.net > > Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code. Ordered on Tuesday Oct 23; received shipping notification on Friday Oct 26; SuSE 7.3 received and in my possession on Monday Oct 29. That is received in Calgary, Canada, so it managed to safely cross the border. If I have received my copy then other SuSE users in the states should be receiving their copies at this time as well. Unfortunately I will not have time to install it until the upcoming weekend. -- Ralph Sanford - If your government does not trust you, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - should you trust your government? DH/DSS Key - 0x7A1BEA01 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: who has suse 7.3
Ian Marchak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Myles Green wrote: > > > > works if you have a credit card - I don't use them myself as the > intrest > > rate is absurd. > > It's paying more to have a company ship me something at bulk rates and > charge me 2 times as much as it would cost me to ship it myself that > burns me off. > > Myles, if you pay 'em at the end of the month they don't charge > interest. ;) heh heh, Ooohh!! So _that's_ how that works... ;) -- Myles Green Calgary AB Canada Alberta Step by Step Mirror: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mylesg/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Mailman
Anyone got any tips ons etting up mailman-2.0.6 I have the user mailman and the group mailman... Question1? Do I make suer mailman belong to group users? or group mailman? Question2? It says to create a directory $PREFIX for installation.. what is this..? Im a rpm-er more often then not so most of this tarball stuff still gets me 8^) Thanks in advance, -- Bill Day ( a.k.a. BadMan ) 188133 http://counter.li.org irc.openprojects.net #linux-users ( Open 24/7 ) Our crystal tears now fall upon the ashes, but from the dust shall grow a new spirit, to be in compassion for those who are lost, and one in determination to break those who dare test our resolve to be free... <-> http://www.daysdomain.com/tribute.html <-> 11:30pm up 89 days, 13:58, 27 users, load average: 0.01, 0.04, 0.06 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: I'm still a hacker... Yeeeoooo Doug.
Ahh, makes sense now, I figured that was why, but just wanted to let you know in case you didn't know about it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Douglas J Hunley Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 7:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: I'm still a hacker... Yeee Doug. Alan R. Bryant \(E-mail\) babbled on about: > Actually, when I tried going to http://hunley.homeip.net/ it came up with > your nice 401 Access Denied page. Interesting, btw. > > http://linux.nf/ comes up just fine, though. oh. I misunderstood you. http://hunley.homeip.net/linux_sources/ is what you want. the 403 forbidden is just there cause the site is being thrown out and replaced -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://linux.nf Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." --Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: who has suse 7.3
Myles Green wrote: > > David Aikema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Am I the only one who thinks that this business model of shipping > > distros via > > mail is getting rather outdated? > > nope. Double nope. And waiting until just before the next distribution comes out, to get a copy locally of the outgoing version kinda stinks. > > I'm thinking of a payment method sorta along the lines of Mandrake's > > donations page... but this time nonoptional and with a charge per > > gigabyte of > > data downloaded from suse's ftp servers or something buy an ftp > > account > > and transfer quota instead of paying for a nice box. > > works if you have a credit card - I don't use them myself as the intrest > rate is absurd. It's paying more to have a company ship me something at bulk rates and charge me 2 times as much as it would cost me to ship it myself that burns me off. Myles, if you pay 'em at the end of the month they don't charge interest. ;) -- Linux SxS [http://hal.humberc.on.ca/~mrcn0031/sxs/] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
test
test. I still don't seem to be getting messages sent to the list. The last one I got was 10/10/01 from kbb0927 -- Matthew Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Linux User #185986 Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration & Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: who has suse 7.3
David Aikema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am I the only one who thinks that this business model of shipping > distros via > mail is getting rather outdated? nope. > Burning your own cds seems so much more convenient (saves lots of > shipping > time) and a lot cheaper when shipping costs are cut out. Of course if > you're > were desperate for printed documentation or something stuff like that > could > be shippable.. but for the rest why not just burn your own cds. show me the iso's and I'll gladly burn them... just haven't found any yet myself. > I'm thinking of a payment method sorta along the lines of Mandrake's > donations page... but this time nonoptional and with a charge per > gigabyte of > data downloaded from suse's ftp servers or something buy an ftp > account > and transfer quota instead of paying for a nice box. works if you have a credit card - I don't use them myself as the intrest rate is absurd. -- Myles Green Calgary AB Canada Alberta Step by Step Mirror: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mylesg/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Follow-up: Re: CD-R media
from Tim Wunder: " Previously, Tim Wunder chose to write: [...] " Frustrating... looks like I'll have to replace my burner. Unfortunately, I " have no free IDE slots (3 IDE HDDs and an IDE CDROM). I'll have to remove my Fwiw, gsi (and promise, I think), make or used to make bios extender cards which, among other things, bumped the allowed number of ide devices up to eight. I'm running one (for a different reason) on a 486 under linux. Works fine. R -- On Monday morning, the sign warned that "One of the watermelons in this patch has been poisoned. Tuesday AM, it read "Two of the watermelons ..." ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm still a hacker... Yeeeoooo Doug.
Alan R. Bryant \(E-mail\) babbled on about: > Actually, when I tried going to http://hunley.homeip.net/ it came up with > your nice 401 Access Denied page. Interesting, btw. > > http://linux.nf/ comes up just fine, though. oh. I misunderstood you. http://hunley.homeip.net/linux_sources/ is what you want. the 403 forbidden is just there cause the site is being thrown out and replaced -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://linux.nf Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." --Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: who has suse 7.3
On Sunday 28 October 2001 07:31 pm, Myles Green wrote: > Ian Marchak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Douglas J Hunley wrote: > > > anyone? > > > > Losta people who live in Germany...not many on this side of the pond. > > I've been in touch with several software retailers and even they > > couldn't tel me when it would show up at their stores. > > same here - no luck. Am I the only one who thinks that this business model of shipping distros via mail is getting rather outdated? Burning your own cds seems so much more convenient (saves lots of shipping time) and a lot cheaper when shipping costs are cut out. Of course if you're were desperate for printed documentation or something stuff like that could be shippable.. but for the rest why not just burn your own cds. I'm thinking of a payment method sorta along the lines of Mandrake's donations page... but this time nonoptional and with a charge per gigabyte of data downloaded from suse's ftp servers or something buy an ftp account and transfer quota instead of paying for a nice box. David Aikema ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
More Steps Oct 30
Distros->Rolling your own ->redmond (Joseph Cheek) Mirrors->Apache Language Extensions (Doug Hunley) Apache->ditto Databases->DB2 (pascal, old info) Databases->Java <> Mysql Client (Jerry McBride) Java->ditto -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: kernel 2.4.10 blues
Perhaps i should have worded it a bit differently. You are correct, i meant to say that there aren't any new features in 2.4.x, which is the way it should be. --- Myles Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From the release notes, it looks to me that most of the changes are > > *alot* of Alan Cox merges and other assorted stupid bug fixes. Not > > much > > in the way of new features (as it should be). > > ...but I thought new features were introduced in the devel series > (2.1.x, 2.3.x, 2.5.x) and only patches and fixes went into the stable > series (2.2.x, 2.4.x, 2.6.x). or have I got that wrong? Version > level=2, > Release level=4, Patch level=x > > just wondering... = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux FAQ & Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Follow-up: Re: CD-R media
Previously, Tim Wunder chose to write: > Hi folks, > Not really a linux question. But y'all are experts on everything, so I'll > ask... > I've been having issues with the last 6 or 7 CD's I've burned. Excessive > skips throughout. I'm wondering if it's because of the media. The CD-R's I > have are more than a year old and have been in my basement the entire time. > My basement is subject to high fluctuations in temperature and humidity as > the seasons change (it's neither heated, nor air conditioned). Could the > media be the source of my problems? > The drive is a yamaha 6416 SCSI and I get the problem whether I burn at 6x > or 4x. The buffer rarely goes below 98%. I've tried from both linux and > Windows with equally poor results. > Any thoughts? I'm now out of CD-Rs and need to buy some. Any > recommendations on brand, or are they all the same? I primarily burn music, > but some data. Regards, > Tim Finally got around to testing my CD Writer with new CDRs -- TDK, 100% certified Music CD-Rs. Burned using KonCD version 0.9.8. After plaing the first 3 tracks without a hitch, track 4 skipped about half-way thru. Frustrating... looks like I'll have to replace my burner. Unfortunately, I have no free IDE slots (3 IDE HDDs and an IDE CDROM). I'll have to remove my little 2.4 GB WD drive, which is used for my swap partition, if I want to make room on the IDE chain, or buy another SCSI drive. Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: I'm still a hacker... Yeeeoooo Doug.
Jerry McBride babbled on about: > Doug, why does linux.nf insist that I'm some kind of hacker freak, when all > I want to > do is load your webpage and browse your source code resouces??? > > If I'm on some kinda of "black list", please remove me... I'm really a nice > guy, never > hacked anyone or anything other than an old TRS-80 Model I computer... > Honest! > > Jerry what is your IP? did you try to ftp to hunley.homeip.net or linux.nf? if so, you're blocked -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://linux.nf Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net Programmer (n): One who makes the lies the salesman told come true. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
SuSE 7.3
Anyone on the list have a copy of 7.3 yet? I'd like some info before considering upgrade from 7.2prof, to 7.3? Mike ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Fwd: Webmin version 0.89 released
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I have an updated RPM for eServer (I made it yesterday so it's not thoroughly tested yet). It's based on Caldera's webmin.spec with the following changes: * SSL on by default (you need OpenSSL and NET::SSLeay installed and it uses webmin's test certificate!) * Alternative SSH module included (ssh.wbm I like mindterm applet) * Branded with my company logo (just edit /etc/webmin/config and change/delete the brand= line) It's available for download at: http://ftc.intrasoft.com.ar/~fvoges/webmin/ (both i386/src). ==BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE== >From: Jamie Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Webmin version 0.89 released >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webmin version 0.89 is now available for download from http://www.webmin.com/webmin/ and mirror sites. New features in this version include : - Added SSH server module - Supported Redhat 7.2 and SuSE 7.3 - Added support for new BIND 9 view directives - Optional fast RPC support - Fixed security problem in custom commands that may allow local users to execute arbitary commands as the user a custom command runs as. As always, send me any bug reports on feature suggestions for the next release! - Jamie ===END FORWARDED MESSAGE=== Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Malabia 2137 14 A (1425) Buenos Aires Argentina Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBO921BBRcJRaVKt4XEQIIjACfciAocuVA4D2Cx3wtYXN56U9gvaoAn100 mYmUzRPpXxWcP2Gb2smkByUi =Hxzc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: kernel 2.4.10 blues
Net Llama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From the release notes, it looks to me that most of the changes are > *alot* of Alan Cox merges and other assorted stupid bug fixes. Not > much > in the way of new features (as it should be). ...but I thought new features were introduced in the devel series (2.1.x, 2.3.x, 2.5.x) and only patches and fixes went into the stable series (2.2.x, 2.4.x, 2.6.x). or have I got that wrong? Version level=2, Release level=4, Patch level=x just wondering... -- Myles Green Calgary AB Canada Alberta Step by Step Mirror: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mylesg/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: who has suse 7.3
> Ian Marchak babbled on about: > > Douglas J Hunley wrote: > > > anyone? > > > > Losta people who live in Germany...not many on this side of the pond. > > I've been in touch with several software retailers and even they > > couldn't tel me when it would show up at their stores. > > well, according to SuSE, it shoulda shipped. when someone gets it, let me > know. please UPS shows that my 7.3 arrived in Northern Michigan last Friday. (but I wasn't there so it will be waiting for me when I get back) > -- > Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 > Admin: http://linux.nfAdmin: http://hunley.homeip.net > > Life would be so much easier if we could just look at the source code. > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users > > +--+ + Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI + +--+ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
kmail and HTML mail weirdness
I'm running kmail from kde 2.2.1 (the latest) and I've just noticed that if I receive an HTML email, kmail renders everything but the images. It doesn't seem to matter if they are jpeg, gif, png, whatever. they simply don't render. anyone know why? kde obviously find the correct image libs, cause everything else renders images fine.. -- Douglas J. Hunley Unix/Linux Admin http://linux.nf Down the wire, off the router, through the firewall, nothing but 'Net... ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: kernel 2.4.10 blues
--- Mike Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 29 October 2001 05:08, Net Llama wrote: > > > Quite honestly, i haven't had much of a problem with the 2.4.x tree. > > There were some problems with 2.4.7 & 2.4.8 but other than those, > every > > single kernel has been rock solid for me. > > > > I phrased that wrongly llama. I agree that compile and run-wise > there > isn't any more issues than usual it just seems a very large swag of > updates > have come thru in such a short period of time. After all, we are at > #13 > already. Is it because new tweaks and devices are getting added every > day? or > is it because the development cycle has accelerated, or is it genuine > nasty > bugs reuiqring instant fixes? > > (It turns out that my problem was self induced, I compiled elf kernel > binaries as a module. DUH) > > >From the release notes, it looks to me that most of the changes are *alot* of Alan Cox merges and other assorted stupid bug fixes. Not much in the way of new features (as it should be). = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux FAQ & Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: NEC Versa boot problems
On Friday 26 October 2001 09:37 pm, you wrote: > On Saturday 27 October 2001 04:32, John Hiemenz wrote: > > I have a NEC Versa 2435 portable, P133 12GB, 40MB circa 1995-96 > > Why are you using initrd? What's the need for it? If you can force boot the > existing disk kernel via a cd, then initrd is the culprit. Thanks, I've got it going now. I had scrapped initrd and it still was giving me headaches. I upgraded to OL3.1 via RPMS, kernel 2.4.2-11D, and things seem to be fine. I ain't touching it. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: kernel 2.4.10 blues
On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 17:26:42 +1130, Mike Andrew wrote: >On Monday 29 October 2001 10:43, stayler wrote: > >> With the exception of ieee-1284 support. 12 is broke, 13 seems ok. > >do you mean .13 has Ieee problems? Damned typos fairies are at it again No 12 has a problem building ieee-1284 support, but 13 seems to build fine with it stayler ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
I'm still a hacker... Yeeeoooo Doug.
Doug, why does linux.nf insist that I'm some kind of hacker freak, when all I want to do is load your webpage and browse your source code resouces??? If I'm on some kinda of "black list", please remove me... I'm really a nice guy, never hacked anyone or anything other than an old TRS-80 Model I computer... Honest! Jerry -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux 7:10am up 1 day, 14:17, 2 users, load average: 0.06, 0.04, 0.01 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
On Sun, 28 Oct 2001 19:11:35 -0500 Douglas J Hunley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > oh my god... I would turn around and leave right then and there > Me too... but only after switching around two wires... ;') -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux 6:59am up 1 day, 14:06, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Vibra 128 pci sound card
On Monday 29 October 2001 01:03 am, you sent an epistle: > Has anyone had success with this animal. It's a common enuff card, and pci > reports it as an Ensoniq 8550 (from memory). I can find no documentiation > for it in /usr/src/linux I am using one as the onboard sound was not being used by linux, it has been fine since. -- - To those who have been in harms way, to those that have made the sacrifice in humanities name. At the going down of the sun and in the morning I shall remember them. - Keith Antoine aka "skippy" 18 Arkana St The Gap Queensland 4061 Australia PH 16 7 33002161 Retired Geriatric and Sometime Electronics Engineer : Knowall ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: More Steps Oct 29
Great I was experimenting bind9 and inn these few days... got their basic setup working. Mike Andrew wrote: >BIND/DNS -> Installing BIND9 (Doug Hunley) >MAIL->NEWSERVER->INN (Doug Hunley) >SECURITY->OPENSSL (Doug Hunley) > _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: whoever emailed me
you got that "recycling bin", do ya? :) Douglas J Hunley wrote: >about my offer to admin their box, you need to re-send your message. the kids >weren't paying attention and accidently pushed on the mouse while talking to >me and deleted several emails. sorry > _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
man
I carelessly rmdir the man directory under /usr/share in my caldera workstaiton 3.1. Could someone be kind enough to mail me the man dierctory? It should just be a few megabytes... rather than a complete install. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
