Re: excite@home going down?
On Wednesday 28 November 2001 8:41 pm, you wrote: > It is hard to believe that they wouldn't want to maintain service without > interruption. After all, we are already installed, and shell out $$ every > month for the service. We should be a cash cow for somebody. > This is certainly disgusting, but, that is the capitalist system. > However, to avoid my email address getting whacked, for $35 dollars a year > I have my own domain name (HammersHome.com), which won't change even if > @HOME goes away. I think that is a good investment. > Joel > H...where did you find such a deal? Is your mail stored on a remote server - or did you have to setup your own server? I'm in the Ft. Collins area (miles north of Denver) and will be affected by this outage as well. Interested, Greg Turpin ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
CD burn error
Hmmm, I continuously receive this error output from xcdroast which doesn't mean a lot to me. It's a Traxdata IDE burner, the mastering works without a hitch but it's when I try to write the CD that it stops with an error... Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... cdrecord: Input/output error. mode select g1: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 55 10 00 00 00 00 00 00 3C 00 input buffer ready. status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Cheers, Zoran. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: excite@home going down?
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 10:41:47PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: >It is hard to believe that they wouldn't want to maintain service without >interruption. After all, we are already installed, and shell out $$ every month >for the service. We should be a cash cow for somebody. >This is certainly disgusting, but, that is the capitalist system. >However, to avoid my email address getting whacked, for $35 dollars a year I >have my own domain name (HammersHome.com), which won't change even if @HOME >goes away. I think that is a good investment. When I installed a Linux system for one of my wife's friends a couple of months ago I had already set up a domain for her. The guy installing the system for AT&T said we were smart not to use their mail system. She's never accessed her mail account so I imagine it's full of spam. All her mail goes through our servers via uucp over tcp so she never touches the @home mail system. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``When dealing with any spammer, one must always keep in mind that you are dealing with someone who makes their living through forgery, fraud, theft, subterfuge and obfuscation. Stated simply, spammers lie.'' David Ritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: (no subject)
On Thursday 29 November 2001 14:52, Jerry McBride enunciated: > I just left kernel.org and noticed the new 2.5.0 beta kernel sounc was > posted for public consumption... > > Anyone else notice or working with it??? > > I just tossed 2.4.16 onto my test server. I've never had this much fun in > my OS/2 days! The readme in 2.5.0 says that it is the same as 2.4.15/2.4.16 cannot remember which it was as a startpoint . -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
(no subject)
I just left kernel.org and noticed the new 2.5.0 beta kernel sounc was posted for public consumption... Anyone else notice or working with it??? I just tossed 2.4.16 onto my test server. I've never had this much fun in my OS/2 days! -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&safe=off&group=linux 11:45pm up 4 days, 3:16, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.06, 0.10 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: spam
On Wednesday 28 November 2001 23:13 pm, Collins Richey wrote: > All the spam I get is addressed to my email address. How would I get > mail that isn't addressed to me? Gee, why don't you whip up a few of those nifty Sylpheed filters and get rid of all your spam? :o) -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 11/28/01 23:28 + ++ "Nothing so needs reforming as other people's habits." ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: spam
On Wednesday 28 November 2001 23:13 pm, Collins Richey wrote: > On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 22:21:04 -0500 Bruce Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > On Wednesday 28 November 2001 20:27 pm, Collins Richey wrote: > > > Here's a good question. I see a lot of postings about ways of > > > eliminating spam. How does one differentiate between spam and > > > > really > > > > > interesting new mail that doesn't happen to come from your known > > > > and > > > > > most frequent correspondents? > > > > One basic fact that I use is that: if the email isn't addressed > > specifically to my email address(es), then I consider it spam unless > > qualified some other way... (such as list mail) > > > > It's doubtful that any friend would send you email addressed to > > 'undisclosed > > recipients' or some other bogus address. > > All the spam I get is addressed to my email address. How would I get > mail that isn't addressed to me? I'm referring to the To: field. Here's what the list sent to me: From: Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yet it gets here probably by the X-RCPT-TO or some other field in the header. I wrote a program to scan headers against a spam list: for the To: field for the From: field for ANY field The list is pretty simple but the program isn't. For instance, I toss all mail coming from .kr, .tw, etcand even if someone addresses specifically to me, I can TWIT them based on either the FROM field or the ANY catchall. Works quite well. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 11/28/01 23:22 + ++ "I get enough exercise just pushing my luck." ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: spam
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 22:21:04 -0500 Bruce Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 28 November 2001 20:27 pm, Collins Richey wrote: > > Here's a good question. I see a lot of postings about ways of > > eliminating spam. How does one differentiate between spam and > really > > interesting new mail that doesn't happen to come from your known > and > > most frequent correspondents? > > One basic fact that I use is that: if the email isn't addressed > specifically to my email address(es), then I consider it spam unless > qualified some other way... (such as list mail) > > It's doubtful that any friend would send you email addressed to > 'undisclosed > recipients' or some other bogus address. > All the spam I get is addressed to my email address. How would I get mail that isn't addressed to me? -- Collins Richey Denver Area gentoo_rc6 k2.4.16+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: excite@home going down?
It is hard to believe that they wouldn't want to maintain service without interruption. After all, we are already installed, and shell out $$ every month for the service. We should be a cash cow for somebody. This is certainly disgusting, but, that is the capitalist system. However, to avoid my email address getting whacked, for $35 dollars a year I have my own domain name (HammersHome.com), which won't change even if @HOME goes away. I think that is a good investment. Joel On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 10:02:41PM -0500, burns wrote: > On November 28, 2001 07:13 pm, Collins Richey wrote: > > I may have an enforced vacation from email coming up. excite@home, > > the ISP for my ATT cable connection, is in bankruptcy. ATT Broadband > > is trying to buy them out to insure continuous coverage, but no news > > yet. Rumor is going around Denver that we may have a 2 week outage > > before ATT Broadband has an alternative up and going. > > Yeah . The Canadian cable company, Rogers@Home, is severing the @Home bit and > is doing a crash rollout of servers changing all it's customers' mail > domains. About a half a Million subscribers are affected. > ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: spam
On Wednesday 28 November 2001 20:27 pm, Collins Richey wrote: > Here's a good question. I see a lot of postings about ways of > eliminating spam. How does one differentiate between spam and really > interesting new mail that doesn't happen to come from your known and > most frequent correspondents? One basic fact that I use is that: if the email isn't addressed specifically to my email address(es), then I consider it spam unless qualified some other way... (such as list mail) It's doubtful that any friend would send you email addressed to 'undisclosed recipients' or some other bogus address. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 11/28/01 22:18 + ++ "If you think nobody cares about you, try missing a couple of payments." ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: excite@home going down?
On November 28, 2001 07:13 pm, Collins Richey wrote: > I may have an enforced vacation from email coming up. excite@home, > the ISP for my ATT cable connection, is in bankruptcy. ATT Broadband > is trying to buy them out to insure continuous coverage, but no news > yet. Rumor is going around Denver that we may have a 2 week outage > before ATT Broadband has an alternative up and going. Yeah . The Canadian cable company, Rogers@Home, is severing the @Home bit and is doing a crash rollout of servers changing all it's customers' mail domains. About a half a Million subscribers are affected. Details here for those fascinated with tedium: http://rogers.home.com/servlet/support.viewentries?ID=1006192342383 -- burns ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Fwd: [announce] OpenOffice.org Build 641b]
> Previously, Collins Richey chose to write: > > 1> How to deinstall OO (old version) > What I did, to try it out, was extract the download into a directory off my home dir, then make a script that cd's to that directory and runs the 'soffice' script. or just cd to the dir and run ./soffice Of course, this is an individual install. -- Ken Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
spam
Here's a good question. I see a lot of postings about ways of eliminating spam. How does one differentiate between spam and really interesting new mail that doesn't happen to come from your known and most frequent correspondents? -- Collins Richey Denver Area gentoo_rc6 k2.4.16+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SPAM Denial
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 04:48:50PM -0500, Matthew Carpenter wrote: >I'm looking for a little help turning on blackholing on my email server >(running sendmail). It looks like the m4 files are there for it, but I am >looking for someone who has implemented it on eS or COL S3.1. I am running >both. I'm planning to implement blacklisting as well as procmail to ditch >any additional SPAM or junk mail which are legit but unwanted. Can't say about sendmail as we're running smail-3.2 with tcp_wrappers and RBL support. Postfix appears to have good support as well. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man. There has never been a really good one, and even those that are most tolerable are arbitrary, cruel, grasping and unintelligent. -- H. L. Mencken ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Fwd: [announce] OpenOffice.org Build 641b]
Previously, Collins Richey chose to write: > On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:40:41 -0500 Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > FYI.I don't believe Sun will be releasing another beta, so this > > is as close as you're gonna get to a second SO 6.0 beta. > > > > Release notes are here: > > http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/latest_build/release_notes_641b.h >tml > > > Downloading now. > > BTW, so I don't have to scrounge around for instructions. OO buries > them away, and I've forgotten where. > > 1> How to deinstall OO (old version) Don't know. The release notes did say that the 641 build's uninstall routine for linux doesn't work right. FWIW, I never got OO 638c to install right on my system and am currently using SO 6.0 beta. I'll be trying 641b, once I determine whether I can run both SO6.0b and 641b at the same time. > 2> How to do network install of OO (new version) setup -net, IIRC But your probly better off scrounging for real instructions ;) Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Opera 6 beta available
Previously, Collins Richey chose to write: > I liked in Opera. I don't really understand why Galeon (overlay on > top of the Mozilla Gecko engine) is so snappy whereas Mozilla is darn > slow. A question that's been debated on the Mozilla newsgroups for what seems like ages. AFAIK, Galeon doesn't have a mail/news client or a web page composer, nor does it have all the cross platform XUL that allows Moz to run everywhere. I think that's most of the reasons. Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: [Fwd: [announce] OpenOffice.org Build 641b]
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:40:41 -0500 Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FYI.I don't believe Sun will be releasing another beta, so this > is as close as you're gonna get to a second SO 6.0 beta. > > Release notes are here: > http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/latest_build/release_notes_641b.html > Downloading now. BTW, so I don't have to scrounge around for instructions. OO buries them away, and I've forgotten where. 1> How to deinstall OO (old version) 2> How to do network install of OO (new version) -- Collins Richey Denver Area gentoo_rc6 k2.4.16+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Opera 6 beta available
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 00:13:06 + dallam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Collins, > This old machine is a 100mhz, 1.2 hdd with 32mb's of ram. I don't > have the space for 30MB's of browser when 4MB's does all I need. > IIRC Mozilla is pretty large also and requires about 233mhz cpu > doesn't it? Due to cpu speed and disk space I tend to run only > small, fast applications on this machine :) > > > Thus spake Collins Richey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > I don't understand the "cpu" bit. I've only got 300MZ to play > with. 'Nuff said! You're certainly geting the most out of the least. BTW, your posts seem to have ca. 100 trailing blank lines. -- Collins Richey Denver Area gentoo_rc6 k2.4.16+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Stallman looses
Some of you may wish to applaud. Richard Stallman has failed to be elected to the Gnome board of directors. RMS came eighteenth out of 25 candiates, picking up 50 of the 420 eligible votes, and failed to get one of the eleven seats. Check it out at http://lwn.net/daily/ -- Collins Richey Denver Area gentoo_rc6 k2.4.16+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
excite@home going down?
I may have an enforced vacation from email coming up. excite@home, the ISP for my ATT cable connection, is in bankruptcy. ATT Broadband is trying to buy them out to insure continuous coverage, but no news yet. Rumor is going around Denver that we may have a 2 week outage before ATT Broadband has an alternative up and going. Rats! -- Collins Richey Denver Area gentoo_rc6 k2.4.16+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Opera 6 beta available
Hi Collins, This old machine is a 100mhz, 1.2 hdd with 32mb's of ram. I don't have the space for 30MB's of browser when 4MB's does all I need. IIRC Mozilla is pretty large also and requires about 233mhz cpu doesn't it? Due to cpu speed and disk space I tend to run only small, fast applications on this machine :) Thus spake Collins Richey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I don't understand the "cpu" bit. I've only got 300MZ to play with. > Mozilla is oh-so-slow to startup, but OK after that. Now I'm using > galeon, and its's much more responsive and it has most of the feautres > I liked in Opera. I don't really understand why Galeon (overlay on > top of the Mozilla Gecko engine) is so snappy whereas Mozilla is darn > slow. > > -- > Collins Richey > Denver Area > gentoo_rc6 k2.4.16+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=---=-=-=-=-=-=- Registered Linux User #213656 access to power must be limited to those who are not in love with it --Plato ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Re: new install init
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 10:13:34 -0500 Tim Wunder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lee wrote: > > > implement was go back to using 7.1. I think Mandrake, like Caldera > > and Red Hat have adopted the M$ new distro development model. > >After releasing a really good distro (Win 95, COL 2.2, Mandrake > > 7.1) follow it with one not quite so good and degrade the overall > > quality with each new release toward the ultimate crapzoid of XP. > > No experience with XP. win2k is better that average. I never had any problems with win98se. The ultimate crapzoid of all times is WinME. -- Collins Richey Denver Area gentoo_rc6 k2.4.16+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Opera 6 beta available
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 01:38:28 + dallam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't have the cpu to run Mozilla or the patience to use > Netscape, so I like using opera. I don't understand the "cpu" bit. I've only got 300MZ to play with. Mozilla is oh-so-slow to startup, but OK after that. Now I'm using galeon, and its's much more responsive and it has most of the feautres I liked in Opera. I don't really understand why Galeon (overlay on top of the Mozilla Gecko engine) is so snappy whereas Mozilla is darn slow. -- Collins Richey Denver Area gentoo_rc6 k2.4.16+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Printer Recommendations
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:14:26 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Collins Richey wrote: > > [3.5 k deletia] > > % ayup. I've used cups exactly that way, but I removed some M$sh%t > % options a year ago when I had a major snafu on the fscking WinME > box, > % and I haven't had the urge to mess with it again! > > init_curmudgeon_mode() > > Dude! *Please* trim your posts. I almost missed the three lines of > new > text added at the bottom of this one... :-) > > end_curmudgeon_mode() > Sorry. I always trim my posts, but somehow this one got loose. I just checked my outbox and there's all the garbage that I normally strip out! -- Collins Richey Denver Area gentoo_rc6 k2.4.16+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
SPAM Denial
I'm looking for a little help turning on blackholing on my email server (running sendmail). It looks like the m4 files are there for it, but I am looking for someone who has implemented it on eS or COL S3.1. I am running both. I'm planning to implement blacklisting as well as procmail to ditch any additional SPAM or junk mail which are legit but unwanted. TIA! Matt -- Matthew Carpenter CNI, CNE, CNA, J2CP, WP [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration & Support *Web Development and E-Business ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
[Fwd: [announce] OpenOffice.org Build 641b]
FYI. I don't believe Sun will be releasing another beta, so this is as close as you're gonna get to a second SO 6.0 beta. Release notes are here: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/latest_build/release_notes_641b.html Tim Original Message Subject: [announce] OpenOffice.org Build 641b Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:14:27 -0800 From: Louis Suarez-Potts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "discuss-openoffice.org" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> All, OpenOffice.org Build 641b is available for download. Please go to our Download Central page for information about downloading this build and to learn more about OpenOffice.org's resources for those interested in building the code and contributing to the project. The download page is at: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/download.html. You may also go directly to the latest build page: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/latest_build/latest_build.html. Please also consider using our many mirrors. They can be found at http://whiteboard.openoffice.org/mirrors/ -Louis Suarez-Potts Community Manager - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Opera 6 beta available
Just to clarify a point, any program can create new windows *without* spawning a new process. Spawning a process or thread is an implementation detail of an application that is independent of the user interface. John Hiemenz wrote: > On Wednesday 28 November 2001 07:47 am, you stated : > > Quoting Susan Macchia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Just tried it and find it has much improved performance over 5.0. Don't > > > care > > > so much about it being larger in size since I have 384mb. If you want a > > > fast > > > reliable browser, Opera is it (once you get past the MDI interface and > > > tailor > > > it to your choosing). > > > > MDI? Can you elaborate, for my curiosity's sake. > > Multi-Document Interface. > > When a program opens new windows as child windows of the parent, but keeps > them all contained within the parent window. (as opposed to spawning a new > process with a new window) = _ Susan Macchia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots... __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Root Filesystem trouble /dev/hdb7
Dave Anselmi wrote: [...] % You might try mke2fs -n before you go the -S route (and you need the block size % for that too, anyway). [nod] Kurt -- The worst cliques are those which consist of one man. -- G.B. Shaw ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Re: new install init
Lee wrote: > Tim Wunder wrote: > > >>Lee wrote: >> >>Huh!? Are you REALLY saying that Win95 was better than Win98SE? Are you >>REALLY saying that COL 2.2 was better than 2.4? >>Speaking as someone who's used all of the above, I would have to say >>that my experience sharply contrasts yours. Win98SE was definately a >>better product than the original Win95, which in light of the hype >>surrounding it is a much better candidate for "ultimate crapzoid" than >>XP is. >> > >> > Yes, that's what I'm saying. I use my computer for desktop work nothing exotic like > calculation the value of pie to the last decimal place, just gp stuff. Also I run a > small computer business on the side. Most of my work has been installing OSs on > client's boxes in their own home. In four years I've had two Win95s come back. One > was blasted when a squirrel shorted out the electric transformer on the pole and the > system was on line. The other when an idiot decided to make space on his hd by > removing "unused" files. > > 98 (either FE or Se) usually runs for about a year to a year and a half before I see > it again. Too many bells and whistles and not enough OS engine. It's easy enough to > understand why. When 95 was being developed Gates and crapany still had competition > for the desktop market. OS/2 was still around and Win had to prove that was better. > When 98 came out it was either Win or a blank screen. So M$ could taylor it to the > same market that demands new chrome strips on this year's model car. But, as I said > 98 was slightly worse than 95. Many of the 95 bugs were fixed, but 98 compensated by > adding in its own. > OK. I see where you're coming from. I don't necessarily agree. There were 3 versions of Win95, though, each better than the previous, IMO. You can make the argument that the first Win98 broke as much, if not more, than it fixed, but I've had much better luck with the SE release on the few installs that I'v done. I've got a friend who builds Win-based PCs that swears by 98 SE, and has uninstalled Win2K from several boxes to put Win98SE on 'em. He stays far away from ME, with good reason. Suffice it to say that I don't think it's a clear cut "Every new release is worse" situation with what you get from MS. Your free to have your own opinions, though ;). > >> >>And it was the quality of eDesktop 2.4 that finally pushed me over the >>edge to using linux full time at home. Further, once you get past some >>of the installation issues with COL 3.1, it's a fine product in itself. >>I'm very pleased with both of my 3.1 installs at home. Neither of the >>Mandrake releases I've installed (7.1, 8.0) are as good, in my experience. >> > > >I came to Linux from COL1.3 bought at flea market to COL 2.2 to 2.4 to 3.1. > Tried 2.2 from a book, then 2.3 from a download. They were fun to play with, but I still USED Windows to DO stuff. 2.4 was the first linux release that I could really get comfortable with using to perform my day to day tasks. > Mandrake wise from 6.2 to 7.1 to 8.0 and 8.1. The COL 2.2 that I installed on my > dual boot (Win95/COL 2.2) ran for almost 3 years with little trouble. I should note > that I am not of those who continually recompile their OSs for the latest updated > thing-a-ma-giggy. Not critizing, Linux is different things for different folks. 2.2 > did everything I needed, I was satisfied. Then one day in the middle of a net surf > my monitor screen went black (not lost power just shut down) On reboot there was > nothing there. Neither Boot Magic nor the Linux boot disk could find Linux on the weird, sounds like some of my experiences with Mandrake 7.1... > five minutes. It never came back and wouldn't reboot even with a boot disk. Sooo. I > installed 3.1. Pure turkey. The icons for floppy and cdrom or even terminal wouldn't > access. Got message that the file /dev/floppy /dev/fd0/ /mnt/floppy/ /auto /floppy > (take your pick) couldn't be found. That was strange in that the properties listing > of the floppy icon listed the iso95660 driver as being loaded . Cdrom the same. Yea, that's part of the installation issues I mentioned in my previous post. The problems were fixable, but they shouldn't have been there in the first place. Once I got past that kind of stuff, 3.1's been fine. Of course it's only been up for a few months, now. > ...Gave > up in disgust and installed Mandrake 7.1. What an OS! On install it found and > installed my cdrom, cd burner, zip drive and floppy. The system was fast and easy to > use. Problems? Only two. The Scripting on Netscape could be better and the printer > base is rather limited. But, like one of the chrome strip crowd I installed > Mandrake 8.0 over it and later 8.1. Two turkeys. Same problem with the floppy and > cdrom as 3.1 only not instead of can't find file it was you don't have permission to > access the device, even as root. Also 8.0 and 8.1 have a nasty tendency of switching > Xservers after install
Re: Re: new install init
Tim Wunder wrote: > Lee wrote: > > > implement was go back to using 7.1. I think Mandrake, like Caldera and Red Hat > > have adopted the M$ new distro development model. After releasing a really good > > distro (Win 95, COL 2.2, Mandrake 7.1) follow it with one not quite so good and > > degrade the overall quality with each new release toward the ultimate crapzoid > > of XP. > > > > Huh!? Are you REALLY saying that Win95 was better than Win98SE? Are you > REALLY saying that COL 2.2 was better than 2.4? > Speaking as someone who's used all of the above, I would have to say > that my experience sharply contrasts yours. Win98SE was definately a > better product than the original Win95, which in light of the hype > surrounding it is a much better candidate for "ultimate crapzoid" than > XP is. >Yes, that's what I'm saying. I use my computer for desktop work nothing exotic like calculation the value of pie to the last decimal place, just gp stuff. Also I run a small computer business on the side. Most of my work has been installing OSs on client's boxes in their own home. In four years I've had two Win95s come back. One was blasted when a squirrel shorted out the electric transformer on the pole and the system was on line. The other when an idiot decided to make space on his hd by removing "unused" files. 98 (either FE or Se) usually runs for about a year to a year and a half before I see it again. Too many bells and whistles and not enough OS engine. It's easy enough to understand why. When 95 was being developed Gates and crapany still had competition for the desktop market. OS/2 was still around and Win had to prove that was better. When 98 came out it was either Win or a blank screen. So M$ could taylor it to the same market that demands new chrome strips on this year's model car. But, as I said 98 was slightly worse than 95. Many of the 95 bugs were fixed, but 98 compensated by adding in its own. > > > And it was the quality of eDesktop 2.4 that finally pushed me over the > edge to using linux full time at home. Further, once you get past some > of the installation issues with COL 3.1, it's a fine product in itself. > I'm very pleased with both of my 3.1 installs at home. Neither of the > Mandrake releases I've installed (7.1, 8.0) are as good, in my experience. > I came to Linux from COL1.3 bought at flea market to COL 2.2 to 2.4 to 3.1. Mandrake wise from 6.2 to 7.1 to 8.0 and 8.1. The COL 2.2 that I installed on my dual boot (Win95/COL 2.2) ran for almost 3 years with little trouble. I should note that I am not of those who continually recompile their OSs for the latest updated thing-a-ma-giggy. Not critizing, Linux is different things for different folks. 2.2 did everything I needed, I was satisfied. Then one day in the middle of a net surf my monitor screen went black (not lost power just shut down) On reboot there was nothing there. Neither Boot Magic nor the Linux boot disk could find Linux on the hd. So, I upgraded to 2.4. Was ok. Netscape color was better, but it took longer to load. It did have one bad habit however. Sometimes, when I accessed the "Get Message" function on Netscape Communicator the Netscape window would shutdown when I entered my password. Two months after install, I got an error message telling me that one of the components was recycling too fast and boot would be shut down for five minutes. It never came back and wouldn't reboot even with a boot disk. Sooo. I installed 3.1. Pure turkey. The icons for floppy and cdrom or even terminal wouldn't access. Got message that the file /dev/floppy /dev/fd0/ /mnt/floppy/ /auto /floppy (take your pick) couldn't be found. That was strange in that the properties listing of the floppy icon listed the iso95660 driver as being loaded . Cdrom the same. Gave up in disgust and installed Mandrake 7.1. What an OS! On install it found and installed my cdrom, cd burner, zip drive and floppy. The system was fast and easy to use. Problems? Only two. The Scripting on Netscape could be better and the printer base is rather limited. But, like one of the chrome strip crowd I installed Mandrake 8.0 over it and later 8.1. Two turkeys. Same problem with the floppy and cdrom as 3.1 only not instead of can't find file it was you don't have permission to access the device, even as root. Also 8.0 and 8.1 have a nasty tendency of switching Xservers after install. Finally let common sense prevail and reinstalled Mandrake 7.1. Much happy again. > > > I've also been using Win2K SP1 at work since March with very few > problems. It is, by far, a better product than any of the Win9x > releases. If not for my philosophical difference with how MS goes about > doing business, I wouldn't mind using Win2K at home. And I really must > question your opinion of XP being an "ultimate crapzoid". Although I > have no experience with using XP, I've read that the primay issues with > the O/S are over licensing, not quality. >Most of my work lately has been installing Junk 2
Re: Root Filesystem trouble /dev/hdb7
Declan Moriarty wrote: > I tried > mount /dev/hdb7 - bad superblock > e2fsck -p /dev/hdb7 > It spits me back a notice saying "Try e2fsck -b 8193" > I tried for copies in 8K increments up to 49153, and 65537. Same result. Do you know what block size the fs uses? 8193 is only for 1k blocks. e2fsck(8) doesn't tell you where the alternate blocks are (except the first - 8193, 16384, 32768 for 1k, 2k, and 4k blocks) - it says to use mke2fs -n (the man page is here if you need it: http://linux.ctyme.com/man/man0437.htm). It makes sense that they are multiples of 8k, but you may be off by one here or there. You might try mke2fs -n before you go the -S route (and you need the block size for that too, anyway). Dave ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Opera 6 beta available
Quoting Susan Macchia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > MDI stands for "Multiple Document Interface". It is a GUI policy > that is used by an application where it opens up windows within > its own larger window. The first time I saw it was on Windoze. > Opera uses it, StarOffice uses it. Doh. Thanks. I've heard the term before and understand it...just don't remember running across the acronym before. > IMHO it can be a useful UI technique if used judiciously, but for > the most part, its usually overused and not overridable by users > who prefer separate windows. I remember the first time I tried Opera...I practically had to learn how to browse all over again. > Again, thats just my opinion and about 10+ years of UI > design/development experience talking. 10 years, that's it? You think that entitles you to an opinion?! :) -- Linux SxS [http://hal.humberc.on.ca/~mrcn0031/sxs/] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: new install init
Keith Antoine wrote: > I have just installed Mandrake 8.1 on a server for someone, but for the first > time I have had init problems on a clean install. It will not boot to kde and > in a console it stops with a flashing console login screen, the its stosp and > says:: > init id "x" respawning too fast, disable for 5 min If you look in your /etc/inittab, you will see some lines containing the word 'respawn'. These lines list runlevels and programs to be run in those runlevels. The error you're getting is due to the fact that the command contained in some of those lines is exiting immediately with an error. Normally these are used for getty or xdm - programs that wait for you to log in. When your login session ends, the process dies and init respawns it (so you can log in again). Normally the command run here takes many minutes between init starting it and when it dies. If init runs a command that exits quickly (e.g. getty can't be found), the respawning causes a fast loop that sucks up cpu cycles. So init watches and if something is respawned too quickly, init stops respawning it so you have a chance to log in and do something. So, look at your inittab, try out the commands listed on the respawn lines, and fix the ones that don't work. Note that init's environment (especially $PATH) may be different than the one in your shell. Dave ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: html editor (was Opera 6 available)
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 08:03:00AM -0500, Kurt Wall wrote: >Declan Moriarty wrote: >% >% If you need a wysiwyg editor, you're like me - not an expert. There will be >% Unix heads who chew matchsticks and do all this in emacs with a quiet >% contempt for such editors. Get the book, or print the manual; Years ago I got >We could always start an emacs versus vi war. ;-) Just to keep things >interesting around here. And that logically restarts the GNU/info vs rest-of-the-world war/man. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``We maintain that the very foundation of our way of life is what we call free enterprise,'' said Cash McCall, ``but when one of our citizens show enough free enterprise to pile up a little of that profit, we do our best to make him feel that he ought to be ashamed of himself.'' -- Cameron Hawley ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Opera 6 Beta and Java
Yes Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Can Opera do java yet? > > Mark > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=---=-=-=-=-=-=- Registered Linux User #213656 access to power must be limited to those who are not in love with it --Plato ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Opera 6 beta available
MDI stands for "Multiple Document Interface". It is a GUI policy that is used by an application where it opens up windows within its own larger window. The first time I saw it was on Windoze. Opera uses it, StarOffice uses it. IMHO it can be a useful UI technique if used judiciously, but for the most part, its usually overused and not overridable by users who prefer separate windows. Again, thats just my opinion and about 10+ years of UI design/development experience talking. Ian Marchak wrote: > Quoting Susan Macchia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Just tried it and find it has much improved performance over 5.0. Don't > > care > > so much about it being larger in size since I have 384mb. If you want a > > fast > > reliable browser, Opera is it (once you get past the MDI interface and > > tailor > > it to your choosing). = _ Susan Macchia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots... __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Opera 6 beta available
On Wednesday 28 November 2001 9:46 am, John Hiemenz wrote: > Multi-Document Interface. > > When a program opens new windows as child windows of the parent, but keeps > them all contained within the parent window. (as opposed to spawning a new > process with a new window) There is a setting which eliminates 'child windows' and makes any new windows a 'tab', similar to Moz's tabs.I much prefer the tabs to a new process or a child window. -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 11/28/01 10:27 + ++ "Man is the only animal that blushes... or needs to." - Mark Twain, American Writer (1835-1910) ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Opera 6 Beta and Java
Can Opera do java yet? Mark ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: new install init
Lee wrote: > implement was go back to using 7.1. I think Mandrake, like Caldera and Red Hat > have adopted the M$ new distro development model. After releasing a really good > distro (Win 95, COL 2.2, Mandrake 7.1) follow it with one not quite so good and > degrade the overall quality with each new release toward the ultimate crapzoid > of XP. > Huh!? Are you REALLY saying that Win95 was better than Win98SE? Are you REALLY saying that COL 2.2 was better than 2.4? Speaking as someone who's used all of the above, I would have to say that my experience sharply contrasts yours. Win98SE was definately a better product than the original Win95, which in light of the hype surrounding it is a much better candidate for "ultimate crapzoid" than XP is. And it was the quality of eDesktop 2.4 that finally pushed me over the edge to using linux full time at home. Further, once you get past some of the installation issues with COL 3.1, it's a fine product in itself. I'm very pleased with both of my 3.1 installs at home. Neither of the Mandrake releases I've installed (7.1, 8.0) are as good, in my experience. I've also been using Win2K SP1 at work since March with very few problems. It is, by far, a better product than any of the Win9x releases. If not for my philosophical difference with how MS goes about doing business, I wouldn't mind using Win2K at home. And I really must question your opinion of XP being an "ultimate crapzoid". Although I have no experience with using XP, I've read that the primay issues with the O/S are over licensing, not quality. Unfortunately, if MS hadn't stifled every viable competitor over the last 10 years, a product of the quality of Win2K would've been released in 1997 and the computing industry would be light years ahead of where it is now. Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
new site "feature"
I've made a small change to the left-hand navigation menu on the StepByStep site. At the top of the list are the words 'StepByStep'. They were formerly just a header, but now if you click on them you will reload the main page for the site. think of it as a 'take me home' button if you like. enjoy! -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://linux.nf Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net echo '16i[q]sa[ln0=aln100%Pln100/snlbx]sb20293A2058554E494Csnlbxq'|dc ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Opera 6 beta available
On Wednesday 28 November 2001 07:47 am, you stated : > Quoting Susan Macchia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Just tried it and find it has much improved performance over 5.0. Don't > > care > > so much about it being larger in size since I have 384mb. If you want a > > fast > > reliable browser, Opera is it (once you get past the MDI interface and > > tailor > > it to your choosing). > > MDI? Can you elaborate, for my curiosity's sake. Multi-Document Interface. When a program opens new windows as child windows of the parent, but keeps them all contained within the parent window. (as opposed to spawning a new process with a new window) ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Can't remember which list...
On Tuesday 27 November 2001 10:08 pm, you stated : > s-n-f 2006+'s... anyone have a 6 or 7 bay scsi-2 tower forsale? I've got a 7-bay here. In great (almost new) condition other than one of the 50-pin (centronics) connectors is a bit kaput. I have a terminator plugged into that end, since I can't extend past 7 devices anyway. (The connector has some pastic broken so when it is mounted on the case and you try to connect a cable/terminator to it, it kinda moves away from you into the case. I disconnected it from the case and plugged a terminator into it and leave it inside the case) The other centronics connector is fine. Do you want the 5 6X NEC cdroms as well? ;P ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: argh...no init found
On Tuesday 27 November 2001 05:58 pm, you stated : > --- John Hiemenz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Your mount points/names are different between the two boxes? > > (if I'm right, do I get a chocolate bar?) > > Yes, the mount points & names do differ between the two boxes. But i > don't follow on how that would cause the problem. > IF you are right, i'll gladly send you a chocolate bar. > > If root is on different mount point (partition) that would be a problem, yes? ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: SOLVED! Re: argh...no init found
On Tuesday 27 November 2001 06:02 pm, you stated : > Bingo! User error strikes again. Wrong root= for the new kernel. > Thanks. > Hersheys Symphony with almonds ;P ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: new install init
Keith Antoine wrote: > I have just installed Mandrake 8.1 on a server for someone, but for the first > time I have had init problems on a clean install. It will not boot to kde and > in a console it stops with a flashing console login screen, the its stosp and > says:: > init id "x" respawning too fast, disable for 5 min > > That seems to be a video card problem but the /etc/X11/XF86Config looks ok to > me. > > What am I missing or what do i look for otherwise its a re-install with no > guarantees it will work. > > card is linux compatible Nvidia gforce with video out, M200 I think from > memory. > -- > Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' > 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 > Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage Believe it's pretty much a Mandrake bug. 8.1. Like Richard III 8.1 was born into the world undone, as was its predecessor 8.0. I've installed 7.1, 8.0 and 8.1 on various boxes. Both 8.0 and 8.1 sent the same error message at bootup, but only after they had been operational for over a week. The video cards I was using was your general purpose S3 Trio or Virge with 4 MB. The only solution I was able to implement was go back to using 7.1. I think Mandrake, like Caldera and Red Hat have adopted the M$ new distro development model. After releasing a really good distro (Win 95, COL 2.2, Mandrake 7.1) follow it with one not quite so good and degrade the overall quality with each new release toward the ultimate crapzoid of XP. Lee > > > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Opera 6 beta available
Quoting Susan Macchia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Just tried it and find it has much improved performance over 5.0. Don't > care > so much about it being larger in size since I have 384mb. If you want a > fast > reliable browser, Opera is it (once you get past the MDI interface and > tailor > it to your choosing). MDI? Can you elaborate, for my curiosity's sake. -- Linux SxS [http://hal.humberc.on.ca/~mrcn0031/sxs/] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: html editor (was Opera 6 available)
Declan Moriarty wrote: % % If you need a wysiwyg editor, you're like me - not an expert. There will be % Unix heads who chew matchsticks and do all this in emacs with a quiet % contempt for such editors. Get the book, or print the manual; Years ago I got We could always start an emacs versus vi war. ;-) Just to keep things interesting around here. Kurt -- Life is the living you do, Death is the living you don't do. -- Joseph Pintauro ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: new install init
Keith Antoine wrote: % I have just installed Mandrake 8.1 on a server for someone, but for the first % time I have had init problems on a clean install. It will not boot to kde and % in a console it stops with a flashing console login screen, the its stosp and % says:: % init id "x" respawning too fast, disable for 5 min % % That seems to be a video card problem but the /etc/X11/XF86Config looks ok to % me. % % What am I missing or what do i look for otherwise its a re-install with no % guarantees it will work. Boot to run level 3. To configure X, try running # X -configure which will scribble a configuration file in the current directory. Compare it to the existing configuration file to see if there are major differences. Have a look at the X log in /var/log/ to see what the problem is. % card is linux compatible Nvidia gforce with video out, M200 I think from % memory. The driver for this card is "nv". Kurt -- No directory. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Root Filesystem trouble /dev/hdb7
Declan Moriarty wrote: % I'm in trouble - 'Can't mount root filesystem' - that sort of trouble. [tale of woe mercifully deleted] % Any other ideas? Somebody circulated some scripts to rescue this a while % back, but they're saved on the dud partition :-( Try mke2fs -S on the dead partition. -S causes e2fs to write only the superblock and group descriptors, leaving the data alone. Use the same block size as the file system has. The man page entry says it all: -S Write superblock and group descriptors only. This is useful if all of the superblock and backup superblocks are corrupted, and a last-ditch recov ery method is desired. It causes mke2fs to reini tialize the superblock and group descriptors, while not touching the inode table and the block and inode bitmaps. The e2fsck program should be run immediately after this option is used, and there is no guarantee that any data will be salvageable. It is critical to specify the correct filesystem blocksize when using this option, or there is no chance of recovery. Kurt -- His designs were strictly honourable, as the phrase is: that is, to rob a lady of her fortune by way of marriage. -- Henry Fielding, "Tom Jones" ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Opera 6 beta available
Just tried it and find it has much improved performance over 5.0. Don't care so much about it being larger in size since I have 384mb. If you want a fast reliable browser, Opera is it (once you get past the MDI interface and tailor it to your choosing). I haven't been running it long enough to know whether its stablility matches that of Opera 5.0. Will report back at the end of the day. = _ Susan Macchia mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ - Running Linux - because life is too short for reboots... __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Root Filesystem trouble /dev/hdb7
I'm in trouble - 'Can't mount root filesystem' - that sort of trouble. I'm not out of the frame, just in trouble. A browser failed to download a file - I tried 3 or 4 times, and it took 30-50K and then complained of an internal error. I got out of X and found the kernel repeating a line about reserving inodes for future disk acess - I didn't need to look twice, and switched off. On bootup, there's no superblock, and e2fsck can't get in. I've tried copies in 8K increments up to about 65537, but same result. I did try badblocks, and it chewed for a long tiome, and quit, saying nothing. I have the following setup (all ext2 partitions) /dev/hdb5 /boot (2) /dev/hdb7 / (2) With EVERYTHING on it - unmountable These are another Mandrake 8.0 system - a fresh install, and the one I use all the time, until it died. These are my second system.The machine also has an earlier system /dev/hda - inferior system usage /dev/hdb1 /boot (1) /dev/hdb6 / (1) The earlier (1) system is a full Mandrake 8.0 system, but an update from a beta, with a few annoying habits left over. It crashes: "Oh good, we have a crash!" I'm told exactly what sort of a crash " A 250 MB core file is there for you to enjoy; What do you want to do with this crash?" ... (rant restrained with difficulty). But it works, so I'm limited only by my knowledge. This combination was set up for crashtesting, but Mandrake couldn't seem to get software to Ireland :-/. I tried mount /dev/hdb7 - bad superblock e2fsck -p /dev/hdb7 It spits me back a notice saying "Try e2fsck -b 8193" I tried for copies in 8K increments up to 49153, and 65537. Same result. Any other ideas? Somebody circulated some scripts to rescue this a while back, but they're saved on the dud partition :-( -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Success covers a multitude of blunders - G.B. Shaw. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Another M$ vulnerability
that's how they keep running their business. they got bugs, lots of them, but they won the hearts of secretries, kids and housewives. what could we do about it? :) > Just go to http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,48613,00.html > >> when will they learn. > >> http://www.wired.com/news/intel > >Incomplete link to Never-Never land. Is there a full URL available? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: tutorial for find?
try man man -k find man -k search man -k locate > > I know what you mean about the man pages. What I have found is that the > > Unix man pages, at least AIX man pages, provided a few examples of the > > command in action at the end of them. That is how I found good info on > > find. There is a resource on-line that has all the AIX man pages. I can't > > remember the URL and I have a sick daughter so I am home from work today > > and I have it bookmarked there. If you can find it you may want to check > > there. If not, I will send the URL to the list tomorrow when I get back to > > > work. > He'll find a lot of stuff using the google search. > > A very good article on FIND at: > > www.linux-mag.com/2001-04/newbies_01.html > > -- > ++ > + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 11/26/01 14:25 + > ++ > "Soap and education are not as sudden as a massacre, but they are more deadly > in the long run." - Mark Twain > ___ > Linux-users mailing list > Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HTML Editors (WAS: Re: Opera 6 beta available)
Quanta is pretty kewl... was turned on by it in when I was still running kde1 stcok for COL... now with kde2.1.1(yeah I know...) its even beter. very nice easy to use interface once you learn where everything is at... Have yet to try bluefish.. so can't give no opinions of it.. On Wednesday 28 November 2001 03:21, you were heard blurting out: > On Wednesday 28 November 2001 16:12, Kurt Wall enunciated: > > Matthew Carpenter wrote: > > % Speaking of which, does anyone have a recommendation for a good WYSIWYG > > HTML Editor? > > > > [long unwrapped line snipped] > > > > > > There's a product called Quanta. Don't know anything about it, though. > > > > Kurt > > Bluefish -- Bill Day ( a.k.a. BadMan )188133 http://counter.li.org irc.openprojects.net #linux-users ( Open 24/7 ) Our crystal tears now fall upon the ashes, but from the dust shall grow a spirit, to be in compassion for those who are lost, and one in determination to break those who dare test our resolve to be free... http://www.daysdomain.com/tribute.html 5:30am up 118 days, 20:01, 19 users, load average: 0.25, 0.06, 0.02 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: html editor (was Opera 6 available)
SCREEM I forget what it stands for - something like 'site creating environment' It does php and asp and all that sort of thing, and is wysiwyg. I don't know where to find it. If you need a wysiwyg editor, you're like me - not an expert. There will be Unix heads who chew matchsticks and do all this in emacs with a quiet contempt for such editors. Get the book, or print the manual; Years ago I got a windows editor (webxpress) and more was got out of it with the book than was ever achieved by farting around with fancier packages which came into our hands here -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Success covers a multitude of blunders - G.B. Shaw. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: new install init
Congratulations on such a fine error! ;-) The only time I ever got things respawning too fast was on init, and it usually was a module thing. BTW, I'm on Mandrake 8.0; Their X setup stuff is poor IMHO. They took Red Hat's xconfigurator, but there's a catch 22 in that - it's first guess needs to work or you're screwed. XF86setup was also around, but I ended up with the text version on my awkward machines, and then using vi to tweak modelines. Try file 2>&1> then and you'll see what's going on. I would set up for console operation, (it may work to run to a console and type as root) and you can run harddrake or linuxconf from there. They also give a file called xtart, which allows you to choose window managers (funny to be reccomending this; check out the intro in that script, and my signature). KDE starts off the sound and everything, so you'd never know what's going on. I gave up on KDE - they didn't know when to stop writing code :-(. -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Experience is like a comb, that Life gives you - AFTER all your hair has fallen out! On Wednesday 28 November 2001 08:32, you wrote: > I have just installed Mandrake 8.1 on a server for someone, but for the > first time I have had init problems on a clean install. It will not boot to > kde and in a console it stops with a flashing console login screen, the its > stosp and says:: > init id "x" respawning too fast, disable for 5 min > > That seems to be a video card problem but the /etc/X11/XF86Config looks ok > to me. > > What am I missing or what do i look for otherwise its a re-install with no > guarantees it will work. > > card is linux compatible Nvidia gforce with video out, M200 I think from > memory. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
new install init
I have just installed Mandrake 8.1 on a server for someone, but for the first time I have had init problems on a clean install. It will not boot to kde and in a console it stops with a flashing console login screen, the its stosp and says:: init id "x" respawning too fast, disable for 5 min That seems to be a video card problem but the /etc/X11/XF86Config looks ok to me. What am I missing or what do i look for otherwise its a re-install with no guarantees it will work. card is linux compatible Nvidia gforce with video out, M200 I think from memory. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HTML Editors (WAS: Re: Opera 6 beta available)
On Wednesday 28 November 2001 16:12, Kurt Wall enunciated: > Matthew Carpenter wrote: > % Speaking of which, does anyone have a recommendation for a good WYSIWYG > HTML Editor? > > [long unwrapped line snipped] > > > There's a product called Quanta. Don't know anything about it, though. > > Kurt Bluefish -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
