Re: Copernic type Searcher in Linux?
Some replies: Dave said: Seems that there are different search engines that are more popular these days. But with any you should try to understand what it indexes and how to use it to be able to find things quickly. Maybe things have changed and a tool like you suggest is more useful now. The whole point of this thing is that it queries many search engines. I'm now an artist with altavista - I awarded myself that title when I poked in a search which produced only one hit - highly relevant; end of search. But I was never aware how good excite was until I noticed the regular hits from that on weird subjects. And I repeat, I have failed with them all individually, but found with copernic. 'Skippy' wrote: Well I went and looked d/l it and installed in vmware. It is very crappy insofar as its tightly integrated into IE and explorer and gives another way to attack M$. No wonder they cannot port it to Linux, and does linux need that sort of software. IE? ugh! IE5 got in to my windoze and I'm afraid to remove it, but I surf under Netscape. If Netscape wasn't there, I'd use arachne. The point of the thing is that it's a handy tool. They don't want to go to linux, and I don't particularly want their package - I just want that sort of handy tool. -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company A pat on the back puffs your chest out On Sunday 16 December 2001 01:13, you wrote: Declan Moriarty wrote: I'm in Electronics hardware, and have been rescued on another mailing list many times by someone who uses the copernic search tool (http://www.copernic.com) This is a simple browser-like thing. It comes up with a search entry and queries all the major search engines, removes duplicates, and gives you the results. Well, it's been a while since I was up to speed on the search engine world. But a few years ago, Yahoo had something like 5% of the web indexed (they didn't do it automatically). Altavista had ~80% indexed. Since I could go to Altavista and find 10,000 hits on most topics, it hardly seemed I needed something to submit to many search engines (back then I think dogpile did that for you in a web server). So I usually use Yahoo, if I'm looking for something obvious and general. I use Altavista if I can specify my query well enough that Yahoo doesn't give any results. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Win95 replacement
On Monday 17 December 2001 16:00, Derek Blazer enunciated: It says IDE next to it during windows bootup, so I assume that it is not a SCSI drive. I checked the devices tab on the system folder and didn't see a SCSI controller listed. What windows says and what it know are two differing sorst of things so do not refer to windows as it has NO bearuing on what linux is seeing. Windows is clueless. It looks like you need to need to revisit the disk partitioning and formatting stage. I wish I could revisit it, but I haven't gotten that far in the linux installation. However, on the topic of partitioning, right now the drive has four (windows) partitions due to that old limit of 2 gig partitions (3 - 1.97 gig partitions and some change). Could this have an impact on the boot record? I had a similar setup on a previous computer and didn't have any problems, so I am just reaching right now. Would some sort of partitioning software help (partition magic, system commander)? I have been 'sort of' watching this thread, and the above statement puzzl;es me, because one has to partition the drive BEFORE installation, and you say you have not got that far ?? You basically need to have a 'swap' partition and at LEAST one (1) other partition for linux; do these exist at theis present time ? If not they need making and I use partition magic to do this.eed making and I use partition magic to do this. I am also of the opinion that you have not done enough, correct me if I am wrong, reading of what is required of you before TRYING to load linux. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Win95 replacement
On Monday 17 December 2001 05:46, you wrote: I have tried to boot from the cdrom, but the system ignores it even after adjusting the bios. So I have to reboot into dos and use the autoboot.bat file from the /dosutils folder on the cdrom. Caldera allows installation from within windows, which I have used before with no problem. I have also tried creating a boot disk using the tools provided on the installation disk (mandrake). Regardless of the installation method, I get the same error. The following is a guess. To help you we need more precise information. So you're at the install stage, am I right? You know what you're talking about, but we're not so sure :). When you load Mandrake, does it get as far as saying In second stage Install? Excuse a lesson in detested operating systems. Now if it can't mount the root fs during an install, It's a cdrom problem. Have you a DOS driver for the cdrom loaded? Start up, press F8 repeatedly around the time it's saying Starting Windows 95... and choose step by step confirmation. There should be a DOS (not windoze) driver such as cdrom.sys in the config.sys. Write down the cd line line of options it offers you(something like /D:MSCD001) Don't load the registry, windows drivers, or windows. Does mscdex.exe load? Never mind - load it yourself this way mscdex /d:(repeat details of /D: option from cdrom.sys) It should assign a drive letter to your cdrom. (Let's say it's D:) Type D: cd dosutils autoboot.bat My guess is that you'll fail around the D: stage, of this process if not before. This will prove a dud cdrom drive. Of course we're all presuming you have a standard ide cdrom that you think works. If you get in, but then have cdrom problems, it's a nonstandard cdrom driver, or being driven off the soundcard's ide interface, or something stoopid like that. That might explain not booting from the beast. Prove things beyond doubt. Prove the install disk is good. Prove the floppy works. Prove the cdrom works. Something you're taking for granted is letting you down. -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Experience is like a comb, that Life gives you - AFTER all your hair has fallen out! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: News reader
On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 20:18:39 -0800 Roger Hawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried PAN? I love PAN, but to get it to work under kde you have to install most of the gnome desktop. Makes for a lot of wasted realestate if your a die hard kde user... -- ** Registered Linux User Number 185956 http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=ensafe=offgroup=linux 6:55am up 15 days, 17:55, 3 users, load average: 0.06, 0.06, 0.00 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ssh public key
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:44:07 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Many thanks David, I was totally unsure whether that file would suffice. I trust that you and yours have a very Merry Xmas and holiday period. Best of the holidays to you and yours as well. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Printer Recommendations
Mike Andrew wrote: % Perhaps I should qualify my request: I'm looking for currently available % Linux-compatible color injet printers. % % As you would know, it's not so much the 'best' (tm) printer available in % Linux but more, the best driver available. For whatever reason, the Epson % (Stylus) series of printers has the better drivers: meaning simply that more % devel work has gone into the ghostscript upp files than most others. I opted for a Lexmark color injet (the z53). I have never been satisfied with my Stylus Color 600's rendering of reds, which was one of the reasons I chose the Lexmark. When I'm a bit more flush, I will also buy one of the Lexmark laser printers (the PostScript variety) because most of my printing is text and I need speed and PostScript compatibility. Lexmark also supports Linux with drivers (yes, I know the inkjet drivers are binary only -- BFD); combine support with price and features, and Lexmark won hands down over Epson. Kurt -- Who cares if it doesn't do anything? It was made with our new Triple-Iso-Bifurcated-Krypton-Gate-MOS process ... ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ssh public key
LIST From my family to all on the list, Happy Holidays and be safe. May all of you do better than I, I am told I get a lump of coal. I spend too much time at my computers, g. Cheers to you all -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera e-Server 3.1 Registered Linux User #193859 .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: Win95 replacement
Derek Blazer wrote: Thanks for the replies. I have tried to provide additional info below: Anita Lewis wrote: You might try running the cdrom as a rescue disk to see what is happening. I know you can do that with the RH disk. Boot it and then do 'linux rescue' That will start linux in ram. Then do 'fdisk -l /dev/hda' and write down what that looks like. [snippers] I have tried to boot from the cdrom, but the system ignores it even after adjusting the bios. So I have to reboot into dos and use the autoboot.bat file from the /dosutils folder on the cdrom. Caldera allows installation from within windows, which I have used before with no problem. I have also tried creating a boot disk using the tools provided on the installation disk (mandrake). Regardless of the installation method, I get the same error. Do you need windoze on this box? If not, boot to DOS prompt, fdisk-remove all windoze partitions. Exit. Then fdisk /mbr to get rid of windows boot loader. Then try to install by booting to the cdrom again. If that doesn't work, try creating the boot floppies again. If you have another machine besides this one, you can create them on that. Trying with a clean, windoze free disk may help out some. -- Tom Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Various Updates to linux.nf - 17/12/2001
* Main Page -- added a reference to the linux.nf news server (Kurt) * New Mirror -- Illinois (Bill Day) * Primary Site -- Maintainer is Doug, not Mike (Kurt) Kurt -- A tautology is a thing which is tautological. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
TID Re: ssh public key
I have found that if you want to get respect in the house despite your computer habit, wash the dishes. That quiets all grumbling from the girls. Joel On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 07:43:03AM -0600, Richard R. Sivernell wrote: LIST From my family to all on the list, Happy Holidays and be safe. May all of you do better than I, I am told I get a lump of coal. I spend too much time at my computers, g. Cheers to you all ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: TID Re: ssh public key
Joel Hammer wrote: % I have found that if you want to get respect in the house despite your % computer habit, wash the dishes. That quiets all grumbling from the girls. As does cleaning the toilets... % On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 07:43:03AM -0600, Richard R. Sivernell wrote: % LIST % % From my family to all on the list, Happy Holidays % and be safe. May all of you do better than I, I am told I % get a lump of coal. I spend too much time at my computers, g. Kurt -- Put your Nose to the Grindstone! -- Amalgamated Plastic Surgeons and Toolmakers, Ltd. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OTRe: ssh public key
Richard R. Sivernell wrote: % LIST % %From my family to all on the list, Happy Holidays % and be safe. May all of you do better than I, I am told I % get a lump of coal. I spend too much time at my computers, g. Same to you, Rick. I must add that my brother and sister-in-law gave me a lump of coal three years ago for Christmas. They seemed to feel it was appropriate, as they live in West Virginia and, evidently, they felt I had been naughty. Said lump of coal is now sealed in acrylic, mounted on a plaque, and adorns a wall near my Christmas tree at Christmas time. ;-) Kurt -- If dolphins are so smart, why did Flipper work for television? ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: laptops
I am running Redhat 7.1 on a Compaq Armada e500 (dual boot to Win2k) and have been very happy with it. Will eventually get vmware running some day to bridge the two operating systems. roger -Original Message- From: Declan Moriarty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 4:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: laptops On Saturday 15 December 2001 01:55, you wrote: It looks like we'll be able to buy a Linux laptop next year at work. Any recommendations? I thought IBM had them, but I couldn't find it on their site anymore. Dell seem good and have few mentions on problem lists - Thinkpads are fine, except for apm, which is a disaster area. If the company is buying, how about Toshiba? Siemens are coming in with cheap offerings if your boss is a cheapskate, and HP stand out for battery life. Options are fewer here. There's a linux laptop page with links on just about everything, and pages by guys who own one and praise or attack it. -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Success covers a multitude of blunders - G.B. Shaw. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Printer Recommendations
On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 08:22:56AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I opted for a Lexmark color injet (the z53). I have never been satisfied with my Stylus Color 600's rendering of reds, which was one of the reasons I chose the Lexmark. When I'm a bit more flush, I will also buy one of the Lexmark laser printers (the PostScript variety) because most of my printing is text and I need speed and PostScript compatibility. Lexmark also supports Linux with drivers (yes, I know the inkjet drivers are binary only -- BFD); combine support with price and features, and Lexmark won hands down over Epson. I'm glad to hear that because I've been looking at color printers for quite a while, primarily to use from the gimp. I really want to use the Lexmark because we've had excellent results with their laser printers, and their support has been good as well. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.'' Robert Heinlein ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Printer Recommendations
Bill Campbell wrote: % On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 08:22:56AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % ... % I opted for a Lexmark color injet (the z53). I have never been [why I chose Lexmark] % I'm glad to hear that because I've been looking at color printers for % quite a while, primarily to use from the gimp. I really want to use the % Lexmark because we've had excellent results with their laser printers, % and their support has been good as well. I've been quite pleased with the z53's performance and output. I'm especially happy with how quiet it is -- quite the contrast to older inkjets, particularly my old Epson. My sole gripe with the x53 is that the downloadable driver for it from Lexmark requires GTK and GDK libraries: $ ldd libvdk.so.1.2.5 libvdk.so.1.2.5: libgtk-1.2.so.0 = not found libgdk-1.2.so.0 = not found libgmodule-1.2.so.0 = not found libglib-1.2.so.0 = not found And so for libvdkcompo.so.1.2.5 and libvdkgnome.so.1.2.5. Beyond this, I've no complaints that can't be attributed to PEBCAK. Blessed be, Kurt -- A journey of a thousand miles begins with a cash advance. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Mandrake e-mail
Have a little problem with e-mail on Mandrake 8.0. Using the installed version of Neyscape 4.77 for e-mail. Whenever I send e-mail it sends the copy to the addressee, but also sends a copy of the post back to me from my ISP. Have checked the setup and everything appears to be normal. Lee ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Sharity
Has anybody tried this product? Does it work ok? Comments? http://www.obdev.at/products/sharity/index.html Roger ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: OT TID Re: ssh public key
stayler wrote Flowers help too stayler On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:14:42 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joel Hammer wrote: % I have found that if you want to get respect in the house despite your % computer habit, wash the dishes. That quiets all grumbling from the girls. As does cleaning the toilets... And an occasional running of the vacuum cleaner. -- Tom Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Plugger 4.0
--- Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have experience with Plugger 4.0 for netscape 6.2? (I am going to get pluggins working or else...) Is there a reason why you're insistant on using Netscape 6.2? Mozilla is basically the same thing, only alot more stable, and far easier to work with (IMO). I've not had any trouble getting plugins working in Mozilla. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: TID Re: ssh public key
What if I have a dish washer? --- Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have found that if you want to get respect in the house despite your computer habit, wash the dishes. That quiets all grumbling from the girls. Joel On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 07:43:03AM -0600, Richard R. Sivernell wrote: LIST From my family to all on the list, Happy Holidays and be safe. May all of you do better than I, I am told I get a lump of coal. I spend too much time at my computers, g. Cheers to you all ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: TID Re: ssh public key
Net Llama wrote: What if I have a dish washer? Fill it (with dirty) and empty it (when clean) ;-) ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Plugger 4.0
Well, you have to use something to browse with. I have been using opera, which works pretty good and is fast. Mozilla came on my RH 7.2 box and it was OK but I didn't see any great reason to use it over opera, which was faster. I just downloaded netscape 6.2. It seems to be a polished product. No relation to 6.0! If I can get pluggins to work right, which do better with plugger 4.0 so far, and I can get it to do email, it will be as good as netscape 4.78! I call that progress! Joel . On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 07:47:40AM -0800, Net Llama wrote: --- Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have experience with Plugger 4.0 for netscape 6.2? (I am going to get pluggins working or else...) Is there a reason why you're insistant on using Netscape 6.2? Mozilla is basically the same thing, only alot more stable, and far easier to work with (IMO). I've not had any trouble getting plugins working in Mozilla. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Win95 replacement
- Original Message - From: Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:42 AM Subject: Re: Win95 replacement snip I have been 'sort of' watching this thread, and the above statement puzzl;es me, because one has to partition the drive BEFORE installation, and you say you have not got that far ?? I guess I have been unclear on my setup. Right now the computer has windows and only windows installed on it. So the partitions I was referring to were the ones that were created for windows. You basically need to have a 'swap' partition and at LEAST one (1) other partition for linux; do these exist at theis present time ? If not they need making and I use partition magic to do this.eed making and I use partition magic to do this. I am also of the opinion that you have not done enough, correct me if I am wrong, reading of what is required of you before TRYING to load linux. I could always stand to do some more reading on linux, but I have successfully installed linux before using these disks. Before posing my problem to the list, I did do a brief search in the Caldera users list archive and the step by step site. I would gladly read up on kernel panic errors if somebody would point me to a reference. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Win95 replacement
- Original Message - From: Declan Moriarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 2:20 AM Subject: Re: Win95 replacement snip The following is a guess. To help you we need more precise information. So you're at the install stage, am I right? You know what you're talking about, but we're not so sure :). When you load Mandrake, does it get as far as saying In second stage Install? Excuse a lesson in detested operating systems. Yes, I am at the install stage. And no, it does not get to In second stage Install. Now if it can't mount the root fs during an install, It's a cdrom problem. Have you a DOS driver for the cdrom loaded? Start up, press F8 repeatedly around the time it's saying Starting Windows 95... and choose step by step confirmation. There should be a DOS (not windoze) driver such as cdrom.sys in the config.sys. Write down the cd line line of options it offers you(something like /D:MSCD001) Don't load the registry, windows drivers, or output from the step by step config: Device = C:\CDROMDRV\ATAPICD.SYS /D:CD003 windows. Does mscdex.exe load? Never mind - load it yourself this way mscdex /d:(repeat details of /D: option from cdrom.sys) I think I did this correctly: mscdex /d:CD003 This was the response: Device driver not found: 'CD003' No valid cdrom device drivers selected My guess is that you'll fail around the D: stage, of this process if not before. This will prove a dud cdrom drive. Of course we're all presuming you have a standard ide cdrom that you think works. If you get in, but then have cdrom problems, it's a nonstandard cdrom driver, or being driven off the soundcard's ide interface, or something stoopid like that. That might explain not booting from the beast. Assuming that I have performed the test correctly, am I to understand that the cdrom is bad? Thanks, Derek ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Plugger 4.0
On Monday 17 December 2001 11:20 am, Joel Hammer wrote: Well, you have to use something to browse with. I have been using opera, which works pretty good and is fast. Mozilla came on my RH 7.2 box and it was OK but I didn't see any great reason to use it over opera, which was faster. I just downloaded netscape 6.2. It seems to be a polished product. No relation to 6.0! If I can get pluggins to work right, which do better with plugger 4.0 so far, and I can get it to do email, it will be as good as netscape 4.78! I call that progress! I think you missed the point Mozilla is a much better Netscape -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 12/17/01 11:27 + ++ Windows -- the most popular DOS utility ever! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OT pics from my trip
Not sure if anyone is interested, but here are the pics from my trip last week: http://sxs.sf.net/pix/ Day 1 were taken at Lava Beds National Monument in northern California Day 2 were taken at Silver Falls State Park in central Oregon Day 3 were taken at Redwood National Park in coastal northern California = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Plugger 4.0
You do know that Netscape-6.x is the same engine code as Mozilla, right? --- Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, you have to use something to browse with. I have been using opera, which works pretty good and is fast. Mozilla came on my RH 7.2 box and it was OK but I didn't see any great reason to use it over opera, which was faster. I just downloaded netscape 6.2. It seems to be a polished product. No relation to 6.0! If I can get pluggins to work right, which do better with plugger 4.0 so far, and I can get it to do email, it will be as good as netscape 4.78! I call that progress! Joel . On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 07:47:40AM -0800, Net Llama wrote: --- Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have experience with Plugger 4.0 for netscape 6.2? (I am going to get pluggins working or else...) Is there a reason why you're insistant on using Netscape 6.2? Mozilla is basically the same thing, only alot more stable, and far easier to work with (IMO). I've not had any trouble getting plugins working in Mozilla. __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Hd question.
After running a Win95/col2.2 dual boot for 2.5 years the col2 suddenly shutdown down one night in the middle of an internet session. I mean the screen just went dark. The bootup was .located in the hda mbr. On reboot, boot magic failed with the error message that the linux partition couldn't be found. Took the opportunity to upgrade to e2.4. After two weeks it failed to bootup. Error message said something was cycling too fast and it would have to shut down for five minutes. Never booted up. Upgraded to w3.1. Lasted about three days before did the same thing. Boot and rescue disks failed to boot system. Shifted to Mandrake 7.0. After a month failed to boot. Error message said reading 1 bit in swap sync. Moved to Mandrake 8.0, 8.1 same results. The system is a Mainboard running a 200mmx Pentium with 64Meg memory and a Quantum 4 gig big foot hd. Only thing I can think of for this is that the hd may be going bad and files are getting corrupted in bad sectors. Any opinions? Lee ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OTRe: Q: Caldera Update script
Matthew Carpenter babbled on about: what's up with the Permission Denied messages I get? I run this as root. that's a new one. what are the perms on that rpm? is the rpm complete? -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://linux.nf Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net /* vsprintf.c -- Lars Wirzenius Linus Torvalds. */ * * Wirzenius wrote this portably, Torvalds fucked it up :-) */ 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/lib/vsprintf.c ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hd question.
Well, there's not much to go on here, but its fairly certain that its hardware failure somewhere. If the disk is still under warranty (and i believe that Quantum gave 3 yrs) then you can get it replaced at no charge. That may be the easiest route in the shortterm, unless you have a bit more info to go on. --- Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After running a Win95/col2.2 dual boot for 2.5 years the col2 suddenly shutdown down one night in the middle of an internet session. I mean the screen just went dark. The bootup was .located in the hda mbr. On reboot, boot magic failed with the error message that the linux partition couldn't be found. Took the opportunity to upgrade to e2.4. After two weeks it failed to bootup. Error message said something was cycling too fast and it would have to shut down for five minutes. Never booted up. Upgraded to w3.1. Lasted about three days before did the same thing. Boot and rescue disks failed to boot system. Shifted to Mandrake 7.0. After a month failed to boot. Error message said reading 1 bit in swap sync. Moved to Mandrake 8.0, 8.1 same results. The system is a Mainboard running a 200mmx Pentium with 64Meg memory and a Quantum 4 gig big foot hd. Only thing I can think of for this is that the hd may be going bad and files are getting corrupted in bad sectors. Any opinions? = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hd question.
On Sunday 16 December 2001 0:08 am, Lee wrote: After running a Win95/col2.2 dual boot for 2.5 years the col2 suddenly shutdown down one night in the middle of an internet session. I mean the screen just went dark. The bootup was .located in the hda mbr. On reboot, boot magic failed with the error message that the linux partition couldn't be found. Took the opportunity to upgrade to e2.4. After two weeks it failed to bootup. Error message said something was cycling too fast and it would have to shut down for five minutes. Never booted up. Upgraded to w3.1. Lasted about three days before did the same thing. Boot and rescue disks failed to boot system. Shifted to Mandrake 7.0. After a month failed to boot. Error message said reading 1 bit in swap sync. Moved to Mandrake 8.0, 8.1 same results. The system is a Mainboard running a 200mmx Pentium with 64Meg memory and a Quantum 4 gig big foot hd. Only thing I can think of for this is that the hd may be going bad Ya think?:o) and files are getting corrupted in bad sectors. Any opinions? You're not one to take a hint:-) -- ++ + Bruce S. Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bellaire, MI 12/17/01 11:42 + ++ Some painters transform the sun into a yellow spot; others transform a yellow spot into the sun. - Pablo Picasso ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ping - ignore
David A. Bandel babbled on about: there's a big difference between having sendmail installed and having it running (accepting on port 25). Programs can invoke sendmail without sendmail running. What I'm talking about (and most of the configurations entail) is having it listening on a socket 24x7. yes. in your sendmail startup script, there should be somewhere options passed to sendmail. they typically look like '-bd -q30m' . I usually change mine to be '-q5m' . Notice that I remove the '-bd'. This prevents sendmail from starting up in daemon mode. It comes up in 'flush queue' mode only and sends any mail that it needs to every 5 minutes. works for me -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://linux.nf Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net I like you. You remind me of when I was young and stupid. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Plugger 4.0
Joel Hammer babbled on about: Well, you have to use something to browse with. I have been using opera, which works pretty good and is fast. Mozilla came on my RH 7.2 box and it was OK but I didn't see any great reason to use it over opera, which was faster. I just downloaded netscape 6.2. It seems to be a polished product. No relation to 6.0! If I can get pluggins to work right, which do better with plugger 4.0 so far, and I can get it to do email, it will be as good as netscape 4.78! I call that progress! Joel whatever you do Joel, keep notes! we could use from steps on how to get plugins working with Netscape, Mozilla, Opera, whatever as this will only come up more and more.. -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://linux.nf Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net You're not paranoid. The world _IS_ fucked. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT pics from my trip
Lonnie These are great, will send the link to my brother in lae. He will enjoy them. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera e-Server 3.1 Registered Linux User #193859 .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OTRe: ssh public key
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:17:18 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard R. Sivernell wrote: % LIST % %From my family to all on the list, Happy Holidays % and be safe. May all of you do better than I, I am told I % get a lump of coal. I spend too much time at my computers, g. Same to you, Rick. I must add that my brother and sister-in-law gave me a lump of coal three years ago for Christmas. They seemed to feel it was appropriate, as they live in West Virginia and, evidently, they felt I had been naughty. Said lump of coal is now sealed in acrylic, mounted on a plaque, and adorns a wall near my Christmas tree at Christmas time. ;-) Kurt -- If dolphins are so smart, why did Flipper work for television? ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Kurt I represent thatg -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera e-Server 3.1 Registered Linux User #193859 .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT pics from my trip
Greetings Lonnie, On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Net Llama wrote: Not sure if anyone is interested, but here are the pics from my trip last week: http://sxs.sf.net/pix/ Day 1 were taken at Lava Beds National Monument in northern California Day 2 were taken at Silver Falls State Park in central Oregon Day 3 were taken at Redwood National Park in coastal northern California But where are the babes? All I saw was some geeky guy trying to look thinner by standing in front of a tree that's 20-feet across. Didn't even see any people on the beach :-( Jeepers, vacation pix are supposed to be full of babes... must be in your *private* stash of photos... He won't even share with us, guys... ;-) --- Jay Those that sacrifice essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Ben Franklin (1759) ++ | Jay Nugent [EMAIL PROTECTED](734)971-1076(734)971-4529/Fax| | Nugent Telecommunications [www.nuge.com] (734)649-0850/Cell | | Internet Consulting/Linux SysAdmin/Engineering Design/ISP Reseller | | ISP Monitoring [www.ispmonitor.net] ISP Modem Performance Monitoring | | Web-Pegasus[www.webpegasus.com] Web Hosting/DNS Hosting/Shell Accts| | LinuxNIC, Inc. [www.linuxnic.net] Registrar of the .linux TLD| ++ 12:00pm up 17 days, 8:44, 6 users, load average: 0.03, 0.06, 0.01 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT pics from my trip
--- Michael Scottaline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:29:26 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure if anyone is interested, but here are the pics from my trip last week: http://sxs.sf.net/pix/ Day 1 were taken at Lava Beds National Monument in northern California Day 2 were taken at Silver Falls State Park in central Oregon Day 3 were taken at Redwood National Park in coastal northern California === Vey nice, Lonni! All beautiful, but I found the first few you took on he second day, with the forest draped in surreal fog, to be really mystifying (no pun intended ;-) ) Looks like a nice trip all the way around. Mike Yea, that forest was completely shrouded in fog, and everything was dripping with water. It was a fun trip, but i certainly didn't stay dry or warm. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OL 3.1 Svr Prob w/Apache/Samba
Hello, I reloaded and everything appears to be working fine, apache as well as samba. I will do my online updates one-at-a-time to see if any of the packages is what caused my problems or if it was just my inexperience. I can even see my linux host name in my windows network : ) I have loaded OL3.1 Server and did an on-line update. I'm trying to get Samba and Apache configured and working. First The network: I have snip ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Sharity
--- Bill Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 07:57:24AM -0800, Net Llama wrote: --- Schmeits, Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anybody tried this product? Does it work ok? Comments? http://www.obdev.at/products/sharity/index.html I haven't but from looking it over, i'm quite less than impressed. There are technical errors all over the place, and the thing is nothing more than a GUI frontend for SMB that they're charging an arm a leg for. When you say GUI for SMB, is this similar to swat? It looks to be a bit more than that, as it has both admin user level tools. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hd question.
Net Llama wrote: Well, there's not much to go on here, but its fairly certain that its hardware failure somewhere. If the disk is still under warranty (and i believe that Quantum gave 3 yrs) then you can get it replaced at no charge. That may be the easiest route in the shortterm, unless you have a bit more info to go on. --- Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snip It's an old hd 4gig have been running it for 2.5 yrs and bought it used. So ready to replace it anyway. The thging that galls me though is that the WIN 95 side of the dual boot has been running without problems. Lee= Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OTRe: Q: Caldera Update script
they come down as -rw-r--r--1 root root 11308760 Nov 5 18:38 linux-kernel-binary-2.4.2-14S.i386.rpm -rw-r--r--1 root root 1004741 Nov 5 18:38 linux-kernel-include-2.4.2-14S.i386.rpm -rw-r--r--1 root root 474500 Nov 5 18:38 linux-source-i386-2.4.2-14S.i386.rpm And when I go back and manually rpm them, they install fine. --- Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Carpenter babbled on about: what's up with the Permission Denied messages I get? I run this as root. that's a new one. what are the perms on that rpm? is the rpm complete? -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://linux.nf Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net /* vsprintf.c -- Lars Wirzenius Linus Torvalds. */ * * Wirzenius wrote this portably, Torvalds fucked it up :-) */ 2.2.16 /usr/src/linux/lib/vsprintf.c ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users = Matthew Carpenter CNI, CNE, CCNA, MCP, J2CP, WP [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.e-i-s.cc/ Enterprise Information Systems *Network Consulting, Integration Support *Web Development and E-Business __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OTRe: Q: Caldera Update script
Matthew Carpenter babbled on about: they come down as -rw-r--r--1 root root 11308760 Nov 5 18:38 linux-kernel-binary-2.4.2-14S.i386.rpm -rw-r--r--1 root root 1004741 Nov 5 18:38 linux-kernel-include-2.4.2-14S.i386.rpm -rw-r--r--1 root root 474500 Nov 5 18:38 linux-source-i386-2.4.2-14S.i386.rpm And when I go back and manually rpm them, they install fine. hm.. bounce me the complete log of a failed session. use [EMAIL PROTECTED] so as not to clutter the list further. -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://linux.nf Admin: http://hunley.homeip.net Always try to do things in chronological order; it's less confusing that way. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hd question.
Lee wrote: % After running a Win95/col2.2 dual boot for 2.5 years the col2 suddenly % shutdown down one night in the middle of an internet session. I mean the % screen just went dark. The bootup was .located in the hda mbr. On % reboot, boot magic failed with the error message that the linux % partition couldn't be found. Took the opportunity to upgrade to e2.4. % After two weeks it failed to bootup. Error message said something was % cycling too fast and it would have to shut down for five minutes. % Never booted up. Upgraded to w3.1. Lasted about three days before did % the same thing. Boot and rescue disks failed to boot system. Shifted to % Mandrake 7.0. After a month failed to boot. Error message said reading 1 % bit in swap sync. Moved to Mandrake 8.0, 8.1 same results. The system is % a Mainboard running a 200mmx Pentium with 64Meg memory and a Quantum 4 % gig big foot hd. Only thing I can think of for this is that the hd may % be going bad and files are getting corrupted in bad sectors. Any % opinions? My take is the HD is toast; failing that, the MB is toast. Kurt -- Slang is language that takes off its coat, spits on its hands, and goes to work. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hd question.
Lee wrote: [...] % It's an old hd 4gig have been running it for 2.5 yrs and bought it used. % So ready to replace it anyway. The thging that galls me though is that % the WIN 95 side of the dual boot has been running without problems. Linux pushes hardware much harder than Windows. Kurt -- Today is the first day of the rest of the mess ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hd question.
--- Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Net Llama wrote: Well, there's not much to go on here, but its fairly certain that its hardware failure somewhere. If the disk is still under warranty (and i believe that Quantum gave 3 yrs) then you can get it replaced at no charge. That may be the easiest route in the shortterm, unless you have a bit more info to go on. --- Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snip It's an old hd 4gig have been running it for 2.5 yrs and bought it used. So ready to replace it anyway. The thging that galls me though is that the WIN 95 side of the dual boot has been running without problems. It could easily be some bad blocks that appeared on the side where you're trying to run linux. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OTRe: ssh public key
On Tuesday 18 December 2001 00:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] enunciated: Richard R. Sivernell wrote: % LIST % %From my family to all on the list, Happy Holidays % and be safe. May all of you do better than I, I am told I % get a lump of coal. I spend too much time at my computers, g. Same to you, Rick. I must add that my brother and sister-in-law gave me a lump of coal three years ago for Christmas. They seemed to feel it was appropriate, as they live in West Virginia and, evidently, they felt I had been naughty. Said lump of coal is now sealed in acrylic, mounted on a plaque, and adorns a wall near my Christmas tree at Christmas time. ;-) Errr,erm, what is coal and where does it plug into a computer, is it plug and play ? -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mandrake e-mail
On Tuesday 18 December 2001 01:23, Lee enunciated: Have a little problem with e-mail on Mandrake 8.0. Using the installed version of Neyscape 4.77 for e-mail. Whenever I send e-mail it sends the copy to the addressee, but also sends a copy of the post back to me from my ISP. Have checked the setup and everything appears to be normal. Lee Whats wrong with kmail, sylpheed etc rather than netscape which is a 'jack o' all trades'... -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: TID Re: ssh public key
On Tuesday 18 December 2001 01:53, Net Llama enunciated: What if I have a dish washer? Sheesh, mate I married one; however itys is getting a bit old and I cannot seem to get a trade-in. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Win95 replacement
On Tuesday 18 December 2001 02:18, Derek Blazer enunciated: I could always stand to do some more reading on linux, but I have successfully installed linux before using these disks. Before posing my problem to the list, I did do a brief search in the Caldera users list archive and the step by step site. I would gladly read up on kernel panic errors if somebody would point me to a reference. Um, ok so its gone on another computer, so its not the disk. However, EXACTLY how are you going about the install, not through windows, I hope. I have seen many crashed installed that were done via windows. What steps, please list, are you getting to. What Hardware do you have , plaese list too. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OTRe: ssh public key TID
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 06:01:36 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Errr,erm, what is coal and where does it plug into a computer, is it plug and play ? Sorry, Skippy. It's just for us BlackBox users. ducks; runs for cover Mike -- The great question... which I have not been able to answer... is, `What does woman want?' -- Sigmund Freud _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT pics from my trip
On Tuesday 18 December 2001 02:29, Net Llama enunciated: Not sure if anyone is interested, but here are the pics from my trip last week: http://sxs.sf.net/pix/ Day 1 were taken at Lava Beds National Monument in northern California Day 2 were taken at Silver Falls State Park in central Oregon Day 3 were taken at Redwood National Park in coastal northern California Again, nice Lonni, but what is all that white cotton wool doing all over the country side in some pictures ? -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: TID Re: ssh public key
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 06:09:48 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 18 December 2001 01:53, Net Llama enunciated: What if I have a dish washer? Sheesh, mate I married one; however itys is getting a bit old and I cannot seem to get a trade-in. === Hey, Skippy, Bet you never let your bride read this stuff, huh?? Mike -- The great question... which I have not been able to answer... is, `What does woman want?' -- Sigmund Freud _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Hd question.
On Sunday 16 December 2001 15:08, Lee enunciated: After running a Win95/col2.2 dual boot for 2.5 years the col2 suddenly shutdown down one night in the middle of an internet session. I mean the screen just went dark. The bootup was .located in the hda mbr. On reboot, boot magic failed with the error message that the linux partition couldn't be found. Took the opportunity to upgrade to e2.4. After two weeks it failed to bootup. Error message said something was cycling too fast and it would have to shut down for five minutes. Never booted up. Upgraded to w3.1. Lasted about three days before did the same thing. Boot and rescue disks failed to boot system. Shifted to Mandrake 7.0. After a month failed to boot. Error message said reading 1 bit in swap sync. Moved to Mandrake 8.0, 8.1 same results. The system is a Mainboard running a 200mmx Pentium with 64Meg memory and a Quantum 4 gig big foot hd. Only thing I can think of for this is that the hd may be going bad and files are getting corrupted in bad sectors. Any opinions? Looks like a new HD time, I would not have waited so long as its surely going to kark it at some stage totally. The bigfoot was a wierd exercise by Quantum for IBM, it never took off in the market place. I have replaced quite a few in the last 2 years. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT pics from my trip
--- Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 18 December 2001 02:29, Net Llama enunciated: Not sure if anyone is interested, but here are the pics from my trip last week: http://sxs.sf.net/pix/ Day 1 were taken at Lava Beds National Monument in northern California Day 2 were taken at Silver Falls State Park in central Oregon Day 3 were taken at Redwood National Park in coastal northern California Again, nice Lonni, but what is all that white cotton wool doing all over the country side in some pictures ? That's special american wool. It doesn't exist down under ;) = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: OT pics from my trip
Net Llama wrote: Not sure if anyone is interested, but here are the pics from my trip last week: http://sxs.sf.net/pix/ Day 1 were taken at Lava Beds National Monument in northern California Day 2 were taken at Silver Falls State Park in central Oregon Day 3 were taken at Redwood National Park in coastal northern California Very nice pics Lonni. Makes me wish even more that all this rain we're having here would turn to snow. -- Tom Wilson ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: TID Re: ssh public key
Keith Antoine wrote: % On Tuesday 18 December 2001 01:53, Net Llama enunciated: % What if I have a dish washer? % % Sheesh, mate I married one; however itys is getting a bit old and I cannot % seem to get a trade-in. Apparently, your spouse doesn't follow this list... ;-) Kurt -- Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they AREN'T after you. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT pics from my trip
On Tuesday 18 December 2001 02:52, Richard R. Sivernell enunciated: Lonnie These are great, will send the link to my brother in lae. He will enjoy them. cheers Your brothers in PNG ? just up the road from me !! -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT pics from my trip
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 08:12:09 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 18 December 2001 02:52, Richard R. Sivernell enunciated: Lonnie These are great, will send the link to my brother in lae. He will enjoy them. cheers Your brothers in PNG ? just up the road from me !! Skippy Happy Holiday to ypou mate your better half. My brother in law lives in Logansport Indiana. He does notget around too well as he has a bad problem with the nervous system. But does like to see other parts of the world. Pictures tend to help. Got a lot of the old cotton balls on the ground there outside tyour door? We have a few days of rain then sunshine, thenwe start the cirle of weather again. Stay away from the crocks skippy, alis Crockidile Dundee. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera e-Server 3.1 Registered Linux User #193859 .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Win95 replacement
Derek: Is it possible that the original owner of the computer and hard drive would have used one of the proprietary hard disk installation overlays to allow use of the entire 6 gigs of real estate on a machine with a BIOS that only recognizes 2 gig? There are several of these overlays around; two that come to mind are Western Digital's EZ-Install utility and Maxtor's Max Blast Plus. I don't recall what Seagate calls their utility, but I have downloaded it from their web site. You must have the utility on a floppy or CD in order to restore the hard drive to its original state. Once this has been done, up to 2 gig will be available for normal use. I don't think you can install Linux on a hard drive on which the utility is still in place. FWIW Regards, Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User # 135678 - since 1994 - Original Message - Subject: Re: Win95 replacement On Tuesday 18 December 2001 02:18, Derek Blazer enunciated: I could always stand to do some more reading on linux, but I have successfully installed linux before using these disks. Before posing my problem to the list, I did do a brief search in the Caldera users list archive and the step by step site. I would gladly read up on kernel panic errors if somebody would point me to a reference. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
parport?
I've loaded Mandrake 8.1 on a duron 750 with 320Meg ram. I've been unable to set up printing on this beast. Uasually this has not been a problem for me. Looking to see what could be messsed up, I noticed this little blurb during boot.: Dec 16 22:56:54 crash kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, dma 3 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,ECP,DMA] Dec 16 22:56:54 crash kernel: parport_pc: Strange, can't probe Via 686A parallel port: io=0x378, irq=-1, dma=-1 Dec 16 22:56:54 crash kernel: lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven). Now why would it be probing irq=-1 when the dang thing is at irq 7? is there a setup or options file in mandrake that would be incorrect and thus messing up my printing? This machine is running a stock 8.1 with no upgrades. I'll take any ideas no matter how wild:) Although I'm not new to linux, I am new to Mandrake. I've always used Caldera (can not buy Caldera at the local distributor any more). Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B.C. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: parport?
Sounds like you may have a resource conflict. Is PnP on in the BIOS? You might try turning it off. If it's off, try turning it on. Different BIOS have different behaviors when in PnP mode. Some work well, others not. On Mon, 2001-12-17 at 16:30, Ted Ozolins wrote: I've loaded Mandrake 8.1 on a duron 750 with 320Meg ram. I've been unable to set up printing on this beast. Uasually this has not been a problem for me. Looking to see what could be messsed up, I noticed this little blurb during boot.: Dec 16 22:56:54 crash kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, dma 3 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,ECP,DMA] Dec 16 22:56:54 crash kernel: parport_pc: Strange, can't probe Via 686A parallel port: io=0x378, irq=-1, dma=-1 Dec 16 22:56:54 crash kernel: lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven). Now why would it be probing irq=-1 when the dang thing is at irq 7? is there a setup or options file in mandrake that would be incorrect and thus messing up my printing? This machine is running a stock 8.1 with no upgrades. I'll take any ideas no matter how wild:) Although I'm not new to linux, I am new to Mandrake. I've always used Caldera (can not buy Caldera at the local distributor any more). Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B.C. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: parport?
On Monday 17 December 2001 04:43 pm, you wrote: Sounds like you may have a resource conflict. Is PnP on in the BIOS? You might try turning it off. If it's off, try turning it on. Different BIOS have different behaviors when in PnP mode. Some work well, others not. Tried that and no joy. I guess I'll just have to keep looking. Maybe I'll try setting up parport_pc in modules.conf with the correct paremeters and see if that works. :( Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B.C. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: parport?
On Tuesday 18 Dec 2001 00:30, Ted Ozolins wrote: I've loaded Mandrake 8.1 on a duron 750 with 320Meg ram. I've been unable to set up printing on this beast. Uasually this has not been a problem for me. Looking to see what could be messsed up, I noticed this little blurb during boot.: Dec 16 22:56:54 crash kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, dma 3 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,ECP,DMA] Dec 16 22:56:54 crash kernel: parport_pc: Strange, can't probe Via 686A parallel port: io=0x378, I have that chip _and_ Mandrake 8.1 and it works fine. The Strange, can't probe... disappears with the later kernels - try grabbing 2.4.8-34.1mdk from Mandrake's update site. irq=-1, dma=-1 Dec 16 22:56:54 crash kernel: lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven). Now why would it be probing irq=-1 when the dang thing is at irq 7? I think irq=-1, dma=-1 means both are true. It'll only want DMA if you have the port set in the BIOS as ECP - try setting it as SPP or EPP if you can. is there a setup or options file in mandrake that would be incorrect and thus messing up my printing? This machine is running a stock 8.1 with no upgrades. I'll take any ideas no matter how wild:) I have nothing in modules.conf regarding parport but the right module gets loaded: [01:20 root@penguin:~]# lsmod|grep via via686a 8260 0 i2c-viapro 3976 0 (unused) i2c-proc6400 0 [via686a eeprom] i2c-core 13536 0 [via686a eeprom i2c-isa i2c-viapro i2c-proc] Although I'm not new to linux, I am new to Mandrake. I've always used Caldera (can not buy Caldera at the local distributor any more). HTH -- Peter Ruskin, Wrexham, Wales. Registered Linux User No. 219434 ( see http://counter.li.org/ ). Mandrake Linux release 8.1 (Vitamin) for i586 Kernel 2.4.8-34.1mdk-win4lin, XFree86 4.1.0, patch level 21mdk. KDE: 2.2.2. Qt: 2.3.2. Uptime 11 hours 33 minutes. -- ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: grub and ext3?
[ snips ] On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 21:48:22 -0600 John Hiemenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried the ext3 mailing list? In progress now on the grub list. Haven't tried the ext3 list.. - Original Message - From: Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anyone have a definitive answer about grub and ext3 filesystems? -- Collins Richey Denver Area - 12DEC2001 - WWTLRD? gentoo_rc6 k2.4.17-pre8+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: ssh public key
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 07:43:03 -0600 Richard R. Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LIST From my family to all on the list, Happy Holidays and be safe. May all of you do better than I, I am told I get a lump of coal. I spend too much time at my computers, g. I'll get a big lump! Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukha (sp?), and a safe Ramadan to any Muslims on the list. -- Collins Richey Denver Area - 12DEC2001 - WWTLRD? gentoo_rc6 k2.4.17-pre8+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Win95 replacement
On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 21:46:42 -0800, Derek Blazer wrote: Thanks for the replies. I have tried to provide additional info below: - Original Message - From: Anita Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] You might try running the cdrom as a rescue disk to see what is happening. I know you can do that with the RH disk. Boot it and then do 'linux rescue' That will start linux in ram. Then do 'fdisk -l /dev/hda' and write down what that looks like. I don't understand how I can use a linux disk as a rescue disk for windows. Actually, you should be able to do this and see what the hard drive looks like from linux. I misunderstood and thought you had installed, but when you booted you got that message. You are getting it when you attempt to install. My hope is that by running the linux rescue and then that fdisk command, you will see what the hard drive looks like. It may not be accessible or there may not be any unpartitioned space. I'm not sure what kind of message that would give, but I thought a look at it while using a linux kernel in RAM would be helpful information. If you get that error when you run 'linux rescue' then the problem is with loading a root filesystem into RAM. I may have the terminology wrong, but that's the general idea. I just finished installing slackware on a laptop with 4Mb RAM and using floppies. First there was the boot floppy with the kernel and then a root floppy which put a filesystem into RAM. I think that is what happens with the install from cdrom too. You have plenty of RAM; so I'm interested to see what happens with trying to run the cdrom as a rescue disk. RH does this and perhaps other distros do too. Anita ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Is this a Caldera list?
Sorry. Possibly a dumb question, but I saw a lot of Caldera stuff here and just wondered if this list is distro specific. Thanks. Anita ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Is this a Caldera list?
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 02:26:31 + (UTC) Anita Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry. Possibly a dumb question, but I saw a lot of Caldera stuff here and just wondered if this list is distro specific. Thanks. Anita Nah..., not distro specific; but there are many here who started on the Caldera List, and many still use Caldera. You'll find gentoo, mandrake, SuSE, and RH users here also (sorry if I left any out). All linux users are welcome. Mike -- Alcohol is the anesthesia by which we endure the operation of life. -- George Bernard Shaw ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Is this a Caldera list?
Anita Lewis wrote: % Sorry. Possibly a dumb question, but I saw a lot of Caldera stuff here and % just wondered if this list is distro specific. The list and site are distro neutral. See http://linux.nf/ for more information. In particular, This group, [EMAIL PROTECTED], and its companion news group, news.linux.nf, provides a distro neutral forum open to Linux users of all experience and skill set levels. Kurt -- If you can't learn to do it well, learn to enjoy doing it badly. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Is this a Caldera list?
Michael Scottaline wrote: % On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 02:26:31 + (UTC) % Anita Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % % Sorry. Possibly a dumb question, but I saw a lot of Caldera stuff here % and just wondered if this list is distro specific. % % Thanks. Anita % % Nah..., not distro specific; but there are many here who started on the % Caldera List, and many still use Caldera. You'll find gentoo, mandrake, % SuSE, and RH users here also (sorry if I left any out). All linux users % are welcome. Mike Slackware here. Kurt -- Electrocution, n.: Burning at the stake with all the modern improvements. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Is this a Caldera list?
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Scottaline wrote: % On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 02:26:31 + (UTC) % Nah..., not distro specific; but there are many here who started on the % Caldera List, and many still use Caldera. You'll find gentoo, mandrake, % SuSE, and RH users here also (sorry if I left any out). All linux users % are welcome. Mike Slackware here. VA Redhat here on 6 boxes Caldera on 1 = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Is this a Caldera list?
On Monday 17 December 2001 9 21:52 pm, Net Llama dropped these nuggets of information: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Scottaline wrote: % On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 02:26:31 + (UTC) % Nah..., not distro specific; but there are many here who started on the % Caldera List, and many still use Caldera. You'll find gentoo, mandrake, % SuSE, and RH users here also (sorry if I left any out). All linux users % are welcome. Mike Slackware here. VA Redhat here on 6 boxes Caldera on 1 RH, Progeny, Libranet, Slackware on my boxes. Since I have no stock investment, I diversify my 'puters. :-) -- Tom Wilson Register Linux user # 199331 Live on your knees in conformity or die on you feet for honesty ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Is this a Caldera list?
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 21:43:01 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anita Lewis wrote: % Sorry. Possibly a dumb question, but I saw a lot of Caldera stuff here and% just wondered if this list is distro specific. The list and site are distro neutral. See http://linux.nf/ for more information. In particular, This group, [EMAIL PROTECTED], and its companion news group, news.linux.nf, provides a distro neutral forum open to Linux users of all experience and skill set levels. And, after most of the distros have spoken up, I might add a hearty welcome aboard!!! -- Collins Richey Denver Area - 12DEC2001 - WWTLRD? gentoo_rc6 k2.4.17-pre8+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT pics from my trip
Net Llama wrote: % Not sure if anyone is interested, but here are the pics from my trip % last week: % http://sxs.sf.net/pix/ % % Day 1 were taken at Lava Beds National Monument in northern California % Day 2 were taken at Silver Falls State Park in central Oregon % Day 3 were taken at Redwood National Park in coastal northern California Love those pics from Silver Falls. Gorgeous. Kurt -- AMAZING BUT TRUE ... If all the salmon caught in Canada in one year were laid end to end across the Sahara Desert, the smell would be absolutely awful. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Is this a Caldera list?
Anita Lewis wrote: Sorry. Possibly a dumb question, but I saw a lot of Caldera stuff here and just wondered if this list is distro specific. Thanks. Anita No. but it was orginally formed from a core group who left the Caldera users site after some dissatisfactions with Caldera's management,Most of us were running Caldera along with other Linux systems. So, while the list isn't OS specific many of it's members run Caldera. Myself, I run Caldera, Mandrake, and even a fling with peanut Linux ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Win95 replacement
Previously, Anita Lewis chose to write: that's the general idea. I just finished installing slackware on a laptop with 4Mb RAM and using floppies. First there was the boot floppy with the So there might be a use for my old 486SX-33 Gateway laptop with 8MB RAM? Hmmm. Maybe I could turn it into a linux terminal... It needs a NIC, though... Anybody done this? Made a linux terminal using an old laptop. Is 8MB and a 486SX-33 enough horsepower for an X-Terminal? Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OT Re: TID Re: ssh public key
Making dinner helps too. On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 11:09:51 -0500, Tim Wunder wrote: Net Llama wrote: What if I have a dish washer? Fill it (with dirty) and empty it (when clean) ;-) ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
another rpm ooops
Hi gang! An rpm newbie question: can somebody tell me what this message means when I try to use rpm (version 3.0.3.0) on a package: [root@noname /root]# rpm -i --test quasar-1.0-18.i386.rpm only packages with major numbers = 3 are supported by this version of RPM error: quasar-1.0-18.i386.rpm cannot be installed I thought major numbers had to do with device drivers. Thanks in advance! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Is this a Caldera list?
On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 02:26:31 + (UTC), Anita Lewis wrote: Sorry. Possibly a dumb question, but I saw a lot of Caldera stuff here and just wondered if this list is distro specific. Mostly various flavors of Caldera here but there are lots of other Distros representated here. Distro-nostic we are... stayler ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Win95 replacement
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:52:09 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Previously, Anita Lewis chose to write: that's the general idea. I just finished installing slackware on a laptop with 4Mb RAM and using floppies. First there was the boot floppy with the So there might be a use for my old 486SX-33 Gateway laptop with 8MB RAM? Hmmm. Maybe I could turn it into a linux terminal... It needs a NIC, though... Anybody done this? Made a linux terminal using an old laptop. Is 8MB and a 486SX-33 enough horsepower for an X-Terminal? perhaps as a terminal it might, but i tried an installation using a DX2-50 w/ 8MB... X managed to start but it took about 5 minutes and it wasn't usable except (of course) at the command line. -- Myles Green Calgary AB Canada Alberta Linux Step by Step Mirror: http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mylesg/ -- There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. -- Jeremy S. Anderson ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Is this a Caldera list?
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:47:32 -0500 Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anita Lewis wrote: Sorry. Possibly a dumb question, but I saw a lot of Caldera stuff here and just wondered if this list is distro specific. Thanks. Anita No. but it was orginally formed from a core group who left the Caldera users site after some dissatisfactions with Caldera's management,Most of us were running Caldera along with other Linux systems. So, while the list isn't OS specific many of it's members run Caldera. Myself, I run Caldera, Mandrake, and even a fling with peanut Linux ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Lee Do you know peanut linux, I have tried for a week to get a install to go and no dice. cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera e-Server 3.1 Registered Linux User #193859 .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In Linux we trust! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Fw: Re: grub and ext3 fs (solved)
Begin forwarded message: Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:28:10 -0700 From: Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: grub and ext3 fs (solved) On Sun, 16 Dec 2001 20:26:48 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does grub work at all with ext3 fs? I have a multiboot (Win98 and several linux partitions) system with grub 0.90. Everything boots normally using lilo. I built a grub boot floppy (ext2fs fs on the floppy) with the standard boot and grub directories, did the install to fd0 to make it bootable, and added a menu.lst converted from my lilo.conf. The grub floppy will boot windows successfully, but any of my linux boots proceed normally through booting the kernel and starting all daemons (no error messages), but I never get a login prompt. The system does respond to ctl-alt-delete, however. Here's a brief extract from the lilo.conf and the menu.lst files. Windows is on hdc (first ide disk); there is a second ide disk hdd. The linux partitions are /dev/hdc8 (/boot) and /dev/hdc9 (/) and /dev/hdd7 (/boot) and /dev/hdd8 (/). Both have a common /dev/hdc7 (/home) partition. All linux partitions are ext3 with meta-data journaling only and fsck turned off (tune2fs -c 0 -i 0). hda and hdb are cdroms. boot=/dev/hdc install=/boot/boot.b menu-scheme=wb:wm:wb:wb lba32 prompt timeout=50 default=win98 # current on hdd7/8 image=/boot/bzImage-2.4.17-pre8 label=R6K17-8 read-only root=/dev/hdd8 append=hda=ide-scsi hdb-ide-scsi # new on hdc7/8/9 image=/mnt/hdc9/boot/bzImage-2.4.17-pre8 label=N6K17-8 read-only root=/dev/hdc9 append=hda=ide-scsi hdb-ide-scsi other=/dev/hdc1 label=win98 table=/dev/hdc db-ide-scsi timeout 10 default 0 title Win98 root (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 title R6K17-8 root=(hd1,6) kernel=/bzImage-2.4.17-pre8 hda=ide-scsi hdb=ide-scsi root=/dev/hdd8 title N6K17-8 root=(hd0,7) kernel=/bzImage-2.4.17-pre8 hda=ide-scsi hdb=ide-scsi ro root=/dev/hdc9 Any clues? Well, I got an answer from the grub list, and it works. Our examples (the two I've looked at on the SxS) are wrong. Here's what the real grub stanza for a linux partition looks like title R6K17-8 root (hd1,6) kernel /bzImage-2.4.17-pre8 hda=ide-scsi hdb=ide-scsi root=/dev/hdd8 ro ie no equals with the root or kernel parameters, and ro only seems to be recognized after the kernel root= parameter. Thanks to those who responded. -- Collins Richey Denver Area - 12DEC2001 - WWTLRD? gentoo_rc6 k2.4.17-pre8+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon -- Collins Richey Denver Area - 12DEC2001 - WWTLRD? gentoo_rc6 k2.4.17-pre8+ext3+xfce+sylpheed+galeon ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: TID Re: ssh public key
On Tuesday 18 December 2001 06:17, Michael Scottaline enunciated: On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 06:09:48 +1000 Keith Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 18 December 2001 01:53, Net Llama enunciated: What if I have a dish washer? Sheesh, mate I married one; however itys is getting a bit old and I cannot seem to get a trade-in. === Hey, Skippy, Bet you never let your bride read this stuff, huh?? Mike At the moment the wife is standing beside me and has wires attached to my; No Val do not plug that in, AH!!! Sorry but Keith id indisposed for a short while... has a burnt smell about him. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: another rpm ooops
--- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi gang! An rpm newbie question: can somebody tell me what this message means when I try to use rpm (version 3.0.3.0) on a package: [root@noname /root]# rpm -i --test quasar-1.0-18.i386.rpm only packages with major numbers = 3 are supported by this version of RPM error: quasar-1.0-18.i386.rpm cannot be installed I thought major numbers had to do with device drivers. Thanks in advance! x.y.z x = major version # y = minor version # z = patch # As for the problem, you've got an RPM built for RPM v4.x. You need to upgrade rpm to version 3.0.6. See the SxS for instructions. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OT pics from my trip
On Tuesday 18 December 2001 08:53, Richard R. Sivernell enunciated: Skippy Happy Holiday to ypou mate your better half. My brother in law lives in Logansport Indiana. He does notget around too well as he has a bad problem with the nervous system. But does like to see other parts of the world. Pictures tend to help. Got a lot of the old cotton balls on the ground there outside tyour door? We have a few days of rain then sunshine, thenwe start the cirle of weather again. Stay away from the crocks skippy, alis Crockidile Dundee. cheers Thanks mate. So I have been so busy that I have not had time to do things that I have wanted to. Im always thought that when I was retired I would have all the time in the world, but no; I now have no idea where I got the time to go to work. However I digress, seeing that I have some 600 images now of scenery and flora fauna, which I will get up online very soon, promise. Would your brother inlaw like a cd compilation from Tropical Oz ? I'll post it to him if you like. Oh yes, i'll need a URL , no sorry and address.. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Is this a Caldera list?
On Tuesday 18 December 2001 12:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] enunciated: Michael Scottaline wrote: % On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 02:26:31 + (UTC) % Anita Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % % Sorry. Possibly a dumb question, but I saw a lot of Caldera stuff here % and just wondered if this list is distro specific. % % Thanks. Anita % % Nah..., not distro specific; but there are many here who started on the % Caldera List, and many still use Caldera. You'll find gentoo, mandrake, % SuSE, and RH users here also (sorry if I left any out). All linux users % are welcome. Mike Slackware here. Yeah, noticed that from the way your jocks hang ..snigger. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: another rpm ooops
On Tuesday 18 December 2001 14:00, Tony Alfrey enunciated: Hi gang! An rpm newbie question: can somebody tell me what this message means when I try to use rpm (version 3.0.3.0) on a package: [root@noname /root]# rpm -i --test quasar-1.0-18.i386.rpm only packages with major numbers = 3 are supported by this version of RPM error: quasar-1.0-18.i386.rpm cannot be installed I thought major numbers had to do with device drivers. Thanks in advance! Many newer rpms will not work with that version 3.6 is the least theey work with. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: another rpm ooops
On Monday 17 December 2001 09:10 pm,Net Llama wrote: --- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi gang! An rpm newbie question: can somebody tell me what this message means when I try to use rpm (version 3.0.3.0) on a package: [root@noname /root]# rpm -i --test quasar-1.0-18.i386.rpm only packages with major numbers = 3 are supported by this version of RPM error: quasar-1.0-18.i386.rpm cannot be installed I thought major numbers had to do with device drivers. Thanks in advance! x.y.z x = major version # y = minor version # z = patch # As for the problem, you've got an RPM built for RPM v4.x. You need to upgrade rpm to version 3.0.6. See the SxS for instructions. Cool!! Thanks a lot! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
OT Re: TID Re: ssh public key
On Monday 17 December 2001 08:53 pm,Keith Antoine wrote: snip At the moment the wife is standing beside me and has wires attached to my; No Val do not plug that in, AH!!! Sorry but Keith id indisposed for a short while... has a burnt smell about him. Sounds like Skippy needs a cooler for his CPU -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: parport?(Solved)
On Monday 17 December 2001 05:31 pm, you wrote: Since the printer nor computer ever get turned off, any special caracter sent to the printer is active untill it is shut down or the on character is sent to it. Since this is a dual boot machine (I still need protel for work) I did a shut-down of the printer (yes even unplugged from the powerbar) started everything up and all is well. Looks like wintendo XP strikes again. My Canon 4200 is now detected and I now can print.:) since this machine sits mainly on linux, I have to set it up so that wintendo boxes can print through it, I suppose I'd better read up on samba :( Thank you for the replies, every little bit helps. Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B.C. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
