RE: Standby with ACPI/APM?
I believe so, but I just got my first laptop this week, so I haven't had time to play much yet. You may also want to try the Software Suspend kernel patch. I just saw this today, so I haven't had time to try it yet, but it's included in the FOLK (Functionally Overloaded Linux Kernel) project. FOLK is at http://folk.sourceforge.net and you'll find the link to the patch near the bottom of the page. -Original Message- From: Michael Hipp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 10:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Standby with ACPI/APM? Can my system be put into standby mode via ACPI or APM? What would I need and how would it be done? A search of google.com/linux didn't turn up anything definitive. (By standby I'm referring to powering down except for maintaining system state in DRAM and wake the system back up with a tap on the keyboard. I'm running COL 3.1 kernel 2.4.2) Thanks, Michael ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL. ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.
Re: allowing sinlge-login only?
True. If you only want one console, use NetWare. ;-) On Fri, 2002-01-04 at 16:07, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: Nobody has mentioned it, but there's a real danger that you could wind up unable to administer your system. This is particularly true because the original question referred to the root user. Suppose something goes wrong with the on allowed root connection. What then? You could even find yourself hitting RESET just to reclaim the ability to administer the system. Not the best result. ++ kevin On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 11:18:34AM -0800, Net Llama wrote: A possibly far less complicated solution (although along the same lines) is to just have the shell in /etc/passwd changed to /bin/false (or something equally useless) each time a person logs in, and then changed back to /bin/bash when they log out. The only problem with this is it could all go badly if/when a person doesn't logout properly (like the SSH connection is suddenly dropped etc). --- John Hiemenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 04 January 2002 12:17 pm, Douglas J Hunley wrote : anyone know of any hacks/methods/etc to limit a particular userid to only one login at a time? i.e. admin #1 logs in as root to do something, meanwhile admin #2 sshes into machine as root to do something, but is not allowed to log in. just trying to keep people from tripping over each other ;) and skip the 'give em seperate accounts' and the 'use su' .. I'm looking for other solutions thanks I saw a kludge suggestion in the sco group regarding this. Involved adding some code the the login shell (.bashrc?) that tested if user was already logged in, and if so, would kick them with a message telling them root was already active on the system..this was written for SCO OpenServer, so not all may apply to linux, but anyway.. http://www.pcunix.com/SCOFAQ/scotec6.html#restrictlogin Or here it is: How do I restrict logins? For some reason, I often get requests to limit users to one login. I guess the people asking such questions have a reason for wanting to restrict logins this way. The only way to do it is to add a script to either /etc/profile or the particular user's .profile that tests to see if this user is logged in somewhere else. Something like this in /etc/profile will work: IAM=`who am i | cut -d -f1` COUNT=`w | cut -d -f1 | grep ^$IAM$ | wc -l` [ $COUNT -gt 1 ] exit 0 Similar tricks can restrict a user to a particular tty: IAM=`who am i | cut -d -f1` TTY=`tty` [ $TTY != /dev/tty07 ] [ $IAM = tony ] exit 0 And then there's always restricting login to root: put this in /etc/profile IAM=`who am i | cut -d -f1` [ -f /etc/nologin ] [ $IAM != root ] exit 0 When you need to restrict logins, just touch /etc/nologin; remove it when the need is over. You can restrict root to a particular device by adding a line like CONSOLE=/dev/tty01 to /etc/default/login (se man M login). = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users -- Kevin O'Gorman (805) 650-6274 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Permanent e-mail forwarder: mailto:Kevin.O'[EMAIL PROTECTED] At school: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.cs.ucsb.edu/~kogorman/index.html Web: http://kosmanor.com/~kevin/index.html Life is short; eat dessert first! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: exchange 5.5
There are several commercial solutions I am aware of, and I'm sure there are some open-source ones as well. Here are the commercial ones I know about: 1) HP OpenMail - discontinued by HP, but licensed by Samsung SDS so it looks like it has a future after all. OpenMail has been around forever, so it's well tested in enterprise environments. http://www.openmail.hp.com/cyc/om/00/index.html 2) Bynari Insight - I've been watching this one for awhile, and it seems to have developed nicely. http://www.bynari.net/groupware.html 3) Caldera Volution Messaging Server - New kid on the block, don't know much about it. http://www.caldera.com/products/volutionmsg/ On Thu, 2002-01-03 at 09:40, Schmeits, Roger wrote: What is similar in the Linux world for a replacement of Exchange 5.5? Group scheduling, email, resources planning (i.e. room scheduling). Roger ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: otchristmas and its HOT!
I'd recommend picking a temperate zone to live in, but I'm not sure whether or not Australia has those. That's what I get for going to public school. I'm not sure where half the states are here in the US, much less anywhere else! ;-) BTW, here in Washington State, USA the weather is currently set at default. A little below 50F and raining. On Tue, 2002-01-01 at 18:59, Keith Antoine wrote: On Wednesday 02 January 2002 02:20 am, Collins Richey observed: Skippy, eat your heart out! While you're sweating in 30 deg + swelter and NSW is burning, I'm freezing in Denver. Its humid and and 34C inside the house, the way I feel at the moment I would love to cool down. Primarily because the drugs I am on interfer with my body thermostat so I feel worse than it is. We are as you say seeing the terrible effects of, nil humidity and strong winds, on Sydney as the outer suburbs burn. As of now the danger is increasing and there are some 80-100 fires burning in and around Sydney, some 50% of which have been lits by fire bugs. The number of homes lost are increasing and the last I heard was about 150. This of course has been going since just before Xmas day. Victoria and Queensland have sent firefighters to assist about 75% of all on the frontline are volunteers. I am also sure that you have people in the States who build in wooded areas too. Eucalypts are a real fire hazzard though. On the coldest day thus far, my central heating furnace has failed. I've got all the lights on and my computers and the oven for a little residual warmth. Up from 60 deg F. internal to 65 deg in the past hour. On top of all that, it's a white New Year's day. My wife will not allow me to empty the fride of food and sit inside -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: otchristmas and its HOT!
Yeah, when it hits 80F around here people start screaming about the heat. We're just not used to it. And God help us if anything catches fire and the weather doesn't help us out. It all goes up in smoke. Once I've got a handle on the US Midwest and South regions I'm making plans to see some other places. Australia is on my list, so hopefully I'll be more clued in after that. I'm still a dink yet, so I've got a little time to explore. On Wed, 2002-01-02 at 11:55, Keith Antoine wrote: On Thursday 03 January 2002 02:45 am, Aaron Grewell observed: I'd recommend picking a temperate zone to live in, but I'm not sure whether or not Australia has those. That's what I get for going to public school. I'm not sure where half the states are here in the US, much less anywhere else! ;-) Due to it's size, like the States, Australia has many differing climate zones. Brisbane has one of the most equitable climates around, but this year for some reason instead of getting some cooler breaks, it's just been hot and humid. I guess for 90% of the year its beautiful weather, but no matter what it's like the Aussie will complain, too hot, too wet, cold etc. But I guess I have belaboured the heat bit, probably due to the fact that as I get older so the heat or cold has more effect; not to mention of course being on medication does not help one bit. Lastly Sydney seems to get hot inland winds and low humidity around this time of the year. If the winter has been good for undergrowth then the fire hazzard rises. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: otchristmas and its HOT!
We have to keep up the illusion of endless pouring rain, it's all that holds the Californians back from swarming up the coast and turning us into another LA. That and the fact that our freeways were designed by idiots. I'm sure that's why mass transit hasn't ever happened. The city councils figure if they make enough people sit in traffic for long enough they'll leave. It eliminates the need for growth planning. It's all one big conspiracy, yeah, that's it... ;-) Someday when I have less economic incentive to live here I hope to move east of the Cascades. Four seasons would really be nice, and over in Eastern Washington when they complain about traffic I just laugh. On Wed, 2002-01-02 at 13:32, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: -Original Message from Aaron- BTW, here in Washington State, USA the weather is currently set at default. A little below 50F and raining. -Original Message from Keith- Due to it's size, like the States, Australia has many differing climate zones. Brisbane has one of the most equitable climates around, but this year for some reason instead of getting some cooler breaks, it's just been hot and humid. I guess for 90% of the year its beautiful weather, but no matter what it's like the Aussie will complain, too hot, too wet, cold etc. Which is why, like a local beer commercial says, The Pacific Northwest is the only area where both the fact that it is raining and the fact that it isn't raining are cause for a beer. Although, Aaron forgot to mention that we had clear skies and sunshine (albeit cold ~0C at night) for the last 10 days of December. Ooops. I didn't write that. It *always* rains around here. Come visit, but don't move here! In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) +--+ | Thomas A. Condonemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Computer Engineer phone: (360) 315-7609| | Barbershop Bass SingerSailor and Singer of Chanties | | Left Handed and In My Right Mind | +--+ /\ \ / X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL / \ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: otchristmas and its HOT!
I'm not surprised, but if you visit Western Washington you'll probably hear it more than once: Traffic is so awful. It's all those Californians that moved here. They don't know how to drive in the rain. CW is that if we tell everybody how awful the weather is 'round here, they'll stay someplace else. On Wed, 2002-01-02 at 14:47, Net Llama wrote: --- Aaron Grewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have to keep up the illusion of endless pouring rain, it's all that Feh. Never been to northern California between December March i take it? Its been raining here *non-stop* for the past 2 weeks. Mudslides, flooding, the works. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
RE: otchristmas and its HOT!
Well, I don't know if it's the Californians or if Washingtonians just use them as an excuse (leaning toward the latter) but every time the weather changes it's the same. It starts to rain, they hit their brakes. Sun comes out, brakes. Snow begins to fall, brakes. The only thing they *can* drive in is that wretched overcast we seldom seem to be rid of. Driving in rain and snow really just takes practice. What bothers me most about Washingtonians is that if it rains hard they think about staying home, and if it snows they lock their cars and hide the keys. I've been very intentional about it, every time it snows I'm out there. This is made easier and safer by the fact that everyone else stays home, but it's still irritating. When the time comes that they really need it, many of my fellow drivers are helpless, and it's their own fault. OTOH, there are times when it's better to just let it go. I've been to NY, and I wouldn't have dreamed of getting behind the wheel. Somebody would've gotten killed. On Wed, 2002-01-02 at 15:09, Net Llama wrote: Oh, i agree 100%. Most native Californians don't know how to drive in rain (forget snow). I curse them all the time. I've seen it drizzling, and people start freaking out like its a hurricane. I'll take a downpour over a blizzard any day. -Lonni (who spent the first 25 years of his life living in NY PA) --- Aaron Grewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not surprised, but if you visit Western Washington you'll probably hear it more than once: Traffic is so awful. It's all those Californians that moved here. They don't know how to drive in the rain. CW is that if we tell everybody how awful the weather is 'round here, they'll stay someplace else. On Wed, 2002-01-02 at 14:47, Net Llama wrote: --- Aaron Grewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have to keep up the illusion of endless pouring rain, it's all that Feh. Never been to northern California between December March i take it? Its been raining here *non-stop* for the past 2 weeks. Mudslides, flooding, the works. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: make uninstall
I use checkinstall all the time, and I really like it. It doesn't do all the things that a custom-built rpm can do (dependencies, for instance) but if all you want is to be able to easily uninstall a tarball installation it's great. On Wed, 2001-12-19 at 15:54, Tim Wunder wrote: Previously, Net Llama chose to write: I just noticed this project on Freshmeat called make uninstall. It does exactly as its name describes, allows you to cleanly uninstall packages that have been installed via the make install command. I haven't yet tried it out, but here's where you can get it: http://freshmeat.net/releases/65197/ Is it anything like Checkinstall? I was reading a little about that today. It's supposed to allow you to use rpm to keep track of things you install via tarball. Anyone on list use it? http://asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall-en.html ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: OTHapppy B-day Doug
Yeah, in my last job I worked with a bunch of former military. The workplace was close to bases of three services, so they were all over the place. They would all stand around on the back dock smoking and talking about what they were doing in 1975. Occasionally I would chime in with That was a good year. I was born. I don't know why they didn't appreciate it... On Tue, 2001-12-18 at 09:06, Douglas J Hunley wrote: Ian babbled on about: You old fogey...I'm not 28 for another 3 months! Errr...sorry, I take the fogey comment back...repsect for elders and all! realy? I've gotten so used to being the youngest in any group that I guess I've just started assuming everybody else is my elder! wow.. I have seniority! LOL... do you have any instances in your history where your age was a detriment to people taking you seriously in your chosen IT career? I know I do.. -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: http://linux.nfAdmin: http://hunley.homeip.net A cubicle is just a padded cell without a door. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: parport?
Sounds like you may have a resource conflict. Is PnP on in the BIOS? You might try turning it off. If it's off, try turning it on. Different BIOS have different behaviors when in PnP mode. Some work well, others not. On Mon, 2001-12-17 at 16:30, Ted Ozolins wrote: I've loaded Mandrake 8.1 on a duron 750 with 320Meg ram. I've been unable to set up printing on this beast. Uasually this has not been a problem for me. Looking to see what could be messsed up, I noticed this little blurb during boot.: Dec 16 22:56:54 crash kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, dma 3 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,ECP,DMA] Dec 16 22:56:54 crash kernel: parport_pc: Strange, can't probe Via 686A parallel port: io=0x378, irq=-1, dma=-1 Dec 16 22:56:54 crash kernel: lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven). Now why would it be probing irq=-1 when the dang thing is at irq 7? is there a setup or options file in mandrake that would be incorrect and thus messing up my printing? This machine is running a stock 8.1 with no upgrades. I'll take any ideas no matter how wild:) Although I'm not new to linux, I am new to Mandrake. I've always used Caldera (can not buy Caldera at the local distributor any more). Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO) Westbank, B.C. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CDRW
For a low-end box I'd recommend a SCSI burner (mine is a Toshiba, works great), and a SCSI HDD as well. Faster boxes can keep the IDE models' buffers full, but on a slower machine that's harder to do, especially since UDMA-33 was considered fast in those days. The SCSI card offloads all that from the CPU and manages it separately, so I think you'll have a better success rate that way. It also reduces the complexity of the setup, since there's no need for the ide-scsi emulation layer. Of course, SCSI hardware is more expensive than IDE, so then you have to ask yourself whether or not it's worth it to spend all that money on a machine four generations behind the curve. On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 10:20, Herbert H. DeLong wrote: Is there a CDRW or CDW on the market and usable in Linux for a 486DX2-66Mhz? Also where is it available? I use COL e2.4. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CDRW
I got mine at the local computer shop. I was in a hurry, so I didn't shop around at all. This was a year or so ago, so I'm not up on the latest. On Tue, 2001-12-11 at 12:21, Tony Alfrey wrote: On Tuesday 11 December 2001 10:31 am,Aaron Grewell wrote: For a low-end box I'd recommend a SCSI burner (mine is a Toshiba, works great), snip Where did you get it and do you think it is still available? Thanks! -- Tony Alfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd rather be sailing ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: CUPS
Good of them to qa their RPMS, eh? On Mon, 2001-11-26 at 08:52, Tim Wunder wrote: Aaron Grewell wrote: Cups has a built-in webserver, so httpd isn't necessary. Go over the cupsd.conf file carefully and check the paths, RH may have messed the document path up or failed to create one of the directories with the appropriate rights. Everything should be owned by user lp group sys, unless the config file says otherwise. Thanks Aaron. My cupsd.conf file said that the DocumentRoot was /usr/share/cups/doc, which didn't exist. I changed it to /usr/share/doc/cups-1.1.1, which does exist, restarted cupsd and everything's working! I first tried to 'cp -r' the files from /usr/share/doc/cups-1.1.1/ to /usr/share/cups/doc/, but for some reason that didn't work. Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: backup software recommendations?
If you'd like to kill flies with a howitzer, try Veritas NetBackup. It'll backup from almost anything to almost anything on almost anything. It's also seriously complicated, as one would expect from an enterprise backup solution, and costs a zillion dollars. Once you get it set up right it's pretty sweet, though. All I ever do now is change the tapes. On Mon, 2001-11-19 at 06:44, John Hiemenz wrote: On Monday 19 November 2001 08:13 am, you stated : On Monday 19 November 2001 7:38 am, Douglas J Hunley wrote: All righty.. what is everyone using for their backups? I'm currently using Arkeia and while it's OK, I just know theres something better out there. So, who's using what? I want unattended, robust, stable operation. I'm using a Seagate DDs2 drive to do the backups (SCSI). Thanks Using BRU but not one of the freebies that came with Caldera and not all that recent. Used Arkeia for awhile and thought it was pretty good but overkill for what I needed. Tried Lone tar and didn't like it at all. Tried Perfect Backup and hated it. There's not much worthwhile out there. I'm also using DAT drives and the one feature I look for is QFA for quick restores. Not very many backups have it. I've been using BackupEDGE from Microlite for years on SCO OpenServer and now use it as well on my linux boxen. No fancy guis or anything, but it does the job well for me. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: backup software recommendations?
It depends on what you're backing up. For a small single-server operation that might be doable, but for an organization with many servers it's neither reliable nor convenient. On Mon, 2001-11-19 at 10:30, Tim Wunder wrote: Douglas J Hunley wrote: All righty.. what is everyone using for their backups? I'm currently using Arkeia and while it's OK, I just know theres something better out there. So, who's using what? I want unattended, robust, stable operation. I'm using a Seagate DDs2 drive to do the backups (SCSI). Thanks Pardon my ignorance, but is it bad to just use dump to backup data? Or tar? Regards, Tim ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: weirdness w/ Samba
Have you configured the Samba server for WINS support and put its IP in the client's WINS entry in the TCP/IP control panel? That's the first thing I'd doublecheck, since if WINS is working right you won't need lmhosts. On Tue, 2001-11-13 at 16:52, Ian wrote: DOUGLAS HUNLEY wrote: I've got Samba 2.2.2 installed (and working) on 192.168.1.10 Seems to be working fine in that 3 shares are being successfully mounted on all my other machines (192.168.1.11-13). However, I have a printer hanging off the .11 box that is being shared as a network printer (WinME for the OS). The .12 and .13 boxes can print to it without issue. However, the .10 box can't seem to see any SMB shares on the .11 box... smbclient -U id%pass -L 192.168.1.11 returns: added interface ip=192.168.1.10 bcast=192.168.1.255 nmask=255.255.255.0 added interface ip=127.0.0.1 bcast=127.0.0.255 nmask=255.255.255.0 session request to 192.168.1.11 failed (Called name not present) session request to 192 failed (Called name not present) session request to *SMBSERVER failed (Called name not present) I'd really like to be able to print from the .10 box... ideas anyone? Is/are your /etc/lmhosts file(s) in order? -- Linux SxS [http://hal.humberc.on.ca/~mrcn0031/sxs/] ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: New York WTC
It's time to demonstrate to the Islamic fanatics that Christians know how to conduct a Jihad. It's not enough to get the people who did this but the governments who protect them and give them the freedom to act. We have lost enough American lives. For fifty years only two cities have been members of the Ground Zero Club, maybe it's time to add a third. Lee Those who suggest such a thing clearly demonstrate that they, like the Crusaders, fail to understand what Christ had in mind. Politics is one thing, religion another, and I thank God our founding fathers understood this. This understanding is one of the things separates us most clearly from the theocracies of the middle east and the trail of blood that follows them wherever they set foot. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HP-IB interface
Well, I got it third-hand. My Mom got it from somebody else, I'm not even sure who. DOh! On Wednesday 05 September 2001 03:15 pm, you wrote: Ask whoever you got the plotter from what they do with old computers and parts. ;-) he/she probably had no idea it needed an interface card. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 16:18, Aaron Grewell wrote: Yeah, but the plotter was free. $525 for an interface card for an 80's vintage plotter that didn't cost me a dime is really a bit pricey. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 11:04 am, you wrote: Thats not that bad, really. Considering that most of the stuff cabled to one costs ten times that much. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 12:46, Aaron Grewell wrote: Cough, sputter, sputter. $525? Sticker shock indeed! I'm definitely hitting e-bay to see if I can find a used one! On Wednesday 05 September 2001 09:40 am, you wrote: ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
HP-IB
I got this from HP, for those who have been following the topic. It's actually quite informative, but as they said it took them quite awhile to gather the data. This thing is older than dirt, I guess. :-) -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: Plotter Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 16:57:27 -0600 From: DesignJet Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Aaron Grewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for contacting Hewlett-Packard's Customer Care Technical Center. JetDirect cards, from HP, do not support anything less than a parallel connection. In the past, this may have been so. The HP-IB interface was used in a networking environment that was designed around HP-IB. In the past, HP did sell an adapter card that fit into an ISA slot in the computer that allowed you an HP-IB port in which to plug into. HP no longer sells anything of this type or anything related to this type of connection. The 7475A was introduced September of 1985 and was considered obsolete in April of 1995. Therfore any hardware type of support was also considered to be over. You may be in some luck to get this old technology to operate once again. There are places on the web that support and still sell parts for the 1978 ANSI/IEEE-488 standard. The plotter interface board (I/O) and parts used the part numbers below. These numbers may be useful in locating the parts. To convert HP-IB to RS-232-C: PCA Board - 07475-68101 Standoff (2) - 1251-7828 Label - 07475-00011 HP-IB Interface Card - 82335I HP-IB Cable - 10833D (0.5 meter) HP-IB Cable - 10833A (1 meter) HP-IB Cable - 10833B (2 meter) HP-IB Cable - 10833C (3 meter) Below are some companies that may still be found on the web: Via West Interface, Inc Black Box Co. (blackox.com) - last best known contact Omnitronix I/O Tech TMS Plotters, Inc 23621 Ridge Route Dr. Suite A Laguna Hills, CA 92653 (714) 837-2324 (714) 837-2305 fax NOTE: Some or all of these places may no longer exist. It would be a good idea to do a search on the web for IEEE-488. If the items that you are looking for are found, it can be very expensive. The items found and purchased will be supported by that product vendor. Any other information will be found at www.hp.com with what information is left in the knowledgebase. Below are some document numbers that may be helpful: BPP01244 - Test communication from DOS. BPP01034 - HP-IB History and Troubleshooting. BPP01035 - HP-GL Plotters on the Network. BPP02024 - Pen Plotters - Frequently Asked Questions. BPP01965 - Pens and Media Supplies. Lastly, below you will find driver information: HP does not make a driver for any of the Pen Plotters in a Windows environment. Drivers may be obtained from other sources. Below you will find a list of options. 1. Windows supplied drivers. (Supported by Microsoft) 2. Some programs will supply there own drivers such as AutoCAD. (Supported by the program vendor) 3. www.tailormade.com (Supported by Tailor Made) 4. www.winline.com (Supported by Software Mechanics) WINLine is a system driver for Microsoft Windows v 3.1, 3.11, 95, and NT, written and supported by Software Mechanics. The WINline driver is an alternative driver that can be used in place of the drivers that ship with Microsoft Windows or in place of the Hewlett-Packard written drivers. It is supported and written by the company Software Mechanics. WINLine supports most of the Hewlett-Packard pen printers, and HP DesignJet printers. For more information or technical support, contact Software Mechanics at www.winline.com (this will provide a list of phone numbers, by area, for support). This is all the information that we can supply for your plotter. It took some time to locate what we found for you. We wish you luck with your plotter. Once again, thank you for contacting Hewlett-Packard's Customer Care Technical Center. NOTE: Our advice is strictly limited to the question(s) asked and is based on the information provided to us. Problems and solutions may depend on the nature of your system environment and various other parameters that are unknown to HP; therefore, HP cannot assume any responsibility or liability. Please be advised that technical information changes as new data becomes available, therefore, HP recommends that you check back at our Customer Care web site located at http://www.hp.com/cposupport/eschome.html regularly for possible updates. Hewlett-Packard shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, special, incidental or consequential damages in connection with the use of this information. Original message follows: - OK, what about an ethernet transciever or some such then? If it's networkable that's actually even better. I saw passing reference to the availability of MIO cards for certain printers that were originally HP-IB, but didn't get the association. On Tuesday 04 September 2001 01:55 pm, you wrote: Thank you for contacting Hewlett-Packard's Customer Care Technical Center
Re: HP-IB interface
Cough, sputter, sputter. $525? Sticker shock indeed! I'm definitely hitting e-bay to see if I can find a used one! On Wednesday 05 September 2001 09:40 am, you wrote: Sorry, I forgot they have a brain dead hoster, need the ~www~ http://www.tamsinc.com On Wednesday 05 September 2001 10:44, Aaron Grewell wrote: In this case, while a Linux driver would be nice for networking purposes, all it really needs to do is work with Dad's Win9x box. I can't get to that website though, I'm getting unknown host. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 01:13 am, you wrote: On Wednesday 05 September 2001 11:59, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: HP no longer supports the IEEE488 cards, check out http://tamsinc.com I dont know if this is supported under linux. uhh...be prepared for sticker shock! I haven't found a linux driver but i'd be interested in writing one if it helps. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HP-IB interface
Yeah, but the plotter was free. $525 for an interface card for an 80's vintage plotter that didn't cost me a dime is really a bit pricey. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 11:04 am, you wrote: Thats not that bad, really. Considering that most of the stuff cabled to one costs ten times that much. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 12:46, Aaron Grewell wrote: Cough, sputter, sputter. $525? Sticker shock indeed! I'm definitely hitting e-bay to see if I can find a used one! On Wednesday 05 September 2001 09:40 am, you wrote: Sorry, I forgot they have a brain dead hoster, need the ~www~ http://www.tamsinc.com On Wednesday 05 September 2001 10:44, Aaron Grewell wrote: In this case, while a Linux driver would be nice for networking purposes, all it really needs to do is work with Dad's Win9x box. I can't get to that website though, I'm getting unknown host. On Wednesday 05 September 2001 01:13 am, you wrote: On Wednesday 05 September 2001 11:59, Ronnie Gauthier wrote: HP no longer supports the IEEE488 cards, check out http://tamsinc.com I dont know if this is supported under linux. uhh...be prepared for sticker shock! I haven't found a linux driver but i'd be interested in writing one if it helps. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
HP-IB interface
Hello all, I've got a name that ancient hardware question. These are so much fun. Next week I get to work on my first Atari ST! Anyway, on to the business at hand. I was given an HP 7475A plotter. I'd like to hook it up for my father since he has an interest in CAD drafting. It has an HP-IB interface, which I thought was just another parallel interface. HP says it's some kind of network interface, and that plugging it into a standard PC is impossible. Has anybody worked with these beasts before? Can I convince it to talk to ethernet somehow? ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: HP-IB interface
Thanks, I'll give that a try. On Tuesday 04 September 2001 04:03 pm, you wrote: Aaron Grewell wrote: Hello all, I've got a name that ancient hardware question. These are so much fun. Next week I get to work on my first Atari ST! Anyway, on to the business at hand. I was given an HP 7475A plotter. I'd like to hook it up for my father since he has an interest in CAD drafting. It has an HP-IB interface, which I thought was just another parallel interface. HP says it's some kind of network interface, and that plugging it into a standard PC is impossible. Has anybody worked with these beasts before? Can I convince it to talk to ethernet somehow. It is just a standard GPIB interface, it is used a lot to interface test equipment to computers. You ned to make sure your CAD software supports the plotter and then I recommend going to E-Bay and buying a used interface card. If you realy want to spend the bucks National Instruments I believe still makes them. Once the card software drivers are installed and id numbers asignned to the card and plotter it sould work. BoB C ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: win98 hell... (OT)
I often had this issue with Win9x, the fix for me was to remove everything from the network control panel, reboot, then add it all back. On Monday 27 August 2001 05:27 am, you wrote: On Monday 27 August 2001 01:29 am, Jerry McBride wrote: I hate to ask this here... but I don't know of a better source of information I've got a clients win98 box that she wishes to place on a lan and share internet connections, with other users... Everyone else on the lan is setup perfectly. This one win98 box refuses to see anything outside of it's own box. That is, I can ping localhost and the host name and it works perfectly... ping into the rest of the lan and it times out... no connections. I've done EVERYTHING except change the version of OS. I really mean that too... I even ran a new ethernet cable... swapped her nic for known good nic, her nic worked in another box, the one swapped into her computer didn't... I even tried moving the connection on the switch box end... all manner of twiddle and tweak in the network setup, etc... ipconfig shows the nic setup as eth0, winicfg look like everything else I've ever ran it on... The led's on the nic indicate good connect at 100baset I've done this type of setup a 1000 times before, but this one machine is dead to the net. Here's the kicker, Swap out her harddrive for one of mine and within a few moments I'm browsing the inet and local samba shares like heaven... WTF? Rotten windows 98 install? Pop her harddrive back into the machine, backup her most important data, make a bunch of notes about where and what is in here install and reinstall windows using her copy of 98... after sitting though all this shit... SAME EXACT symptoms! Physically move another computer into this ones space... no problems. Now, this leads to my question Was there ever an edition of win98 that had a brain dead tcpip stack on the cd? I think I've got one! The fix was to illegally use a co-worker's copy of 98se and... bingo... it's doing what she wanted! While I'm here... what is the last version of 98 called and does anyone here have a copy they'd like to sell or make a copy of? The last version was Win98ME and I have a copy of it but I wouldn't sell it to my worst enemy. And I wouldn't use it either. I replaced it with SE after about 3 months use. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Mandrake, anyone?
I'm running Mandrake Freq on my workstations, and we use various (released) versions on our servers. I like it because it provides compatibility with redhat-isms without their focus on the bleeding edge. I've had very few compatibility problems when using it, and it's been quite stable. There are those who have had issues with 8.0, but I haven't had any problems so far except having to unalias rm, cp, and so forth so they don't keep asking me stupid questions. On Tuesday 21 August 2001 02:05 pm, you wrote: Anyone out there running Mandrake (any version) ? Thoughts, comments? I was thinking about plopping it onto a portable I've got here just for playing around with, but am interested in thoughts of anyone that has run it or is running it.. -John ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: USB Rat (was Re: Webcam problems)
Hmm. My Logitech Optical is USB, and worked out of the box on Mandrake Freq and COL3.1 Beta. However, be that as it may, the USB section of the Step by Step is very good. I was going to explain how mine works, but their documentation is better than mine would be anyway. That should enable it in-kernel. On 14 Aug 2001 16:35:03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a USB TrackMan Marble Wheel (VERY nice) and have been using a USB-PS/2 converter to use it because I've been unable to get any of the 2.4 kernel'ed distros to take it... Knowing NOTHING about the USB subsystem, I am coming here. HELP!!! Thanks, Matt ps. If there are any M's to FR, I'd be more than happy to RTFM rather than bother you all again about this. thx ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Fwd: dilyard 08/09/01:05.30 system check
I'll second that. Consider the cost of a cheapo AGP card and a 100MHz SDRAM module over against the time you'll spend messing around with your configuration. You can keep the spares as known-good stuff and use them many times for testing your various boxen, and then if you need them you're up and running again while you spec faster, more quality stuff as a permanent replacement. On 10 Aug 2001 04:29:13 +1130, Mike Andrew wrote: On Friday 10 August 2001 03:39, Net Llama wrote: Since changing both memory videocard are a rather expensive solution, i'd save that one for last until all other culprits are ruled out. At the very least, running the box on memtest86 or cerberus would be advised before replacing any hardware that is not exhibiting blatant signs of failure. I'd argue that memory and video are the cheepest part of your system. That aside, it takes *nothing* to temporarily swap out these two high offending items. You can, as you know, run all the tests known to god and humans, and still these buggers bite you. A quick swapout *either* fixes the problem, permanently, or it's on to other things that take a little longer than the 5 minutes to do the obvious. Swap them out. Less pain, all gain. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: We're being scanned (and attacked)
I guess I really just view it as an irritant. Our boxen have (thus far) withstood it without problems, though some of our border routers had fits. I did discover that IIS will start Index Server automagically when it receives a .ida request, even if the service is set to manual. It must be set to disabled in order to keep its grubby hands to itself. Imagine my surprise! :-( On 19 Jul 2001 23:08:36 -0400, dep wrote: On Thursday 19 July 2001 09:58 pm, Bill Day wrote: | I received some rather wierd hits on my webserver today as welll, | a lot of hits from different ips all containing a line of capital | NNN more here: http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6616583.html this is a big one. -- dep there's more to history than what's in books; that's why it took so long to happen. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: KernelBuild 2.4.6
Ah, finally someone has mentioned what I hated about SuSE when I installed it around v6.1 or so. Many of the design decisions made are almost indecipherable to mere mortals, requiring lots of time and investigation. There doesn't always seem to be a good reason, just a because we felt like it rationale. Seeing the number of rave reviews posted here, I started to wonder if nobody else had noticed. Of course, the other distros do the same thing, but SuSE reminds me of trying to work on my wife's Ford. Wierd, and for no good reason. I currently prefer Mandrake or Caldera since Mandrake isn't particularly quirky under the hood and I'm used to OpenLinux's wierdnesses after 5 years or more of tinkering. On 12 Jul 2001 19:32:52 -0400, dep wrote: On Thursday 12 July 2001 06:48 pm, Keith Antoine wrote: | I would imagine that if it is necessary with Cladera then it | probably is also with other distros. nah. the geniuses at suse have rejiggered this, too, probably to make it easier to undo changes not approved by the suse high council but undertaken by mere paying customers anyway. (i'm of a mood to begin work on a book, how distributions killed linux, but this may just be my reaction, based on some of the questions i've seen on lists today and things like the carrion beetles of the plaintiff's bar, as expected, having today descended on the still-twitching carcass of caldera, leading me to believe that the solar system has slipped into the legendary great stupid nebula.) i hope to get around to dissecting whatever the hell it is that suse has done to /etc, but i won't have time until i finish installing all the headers that suse moronically left out of their standard install. -- dep there's more to history than what's in books; that's why it took so long to happen. ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives, Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest, Etc -http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
